Installing a Three Phase Distribution Board (Part 2 of 2) Electricians 3 Phase DB Installation
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Installing a Three Phase Distribution Board (Part 2 of 2) Electricians 3 Phase DB Installation
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when drilling through walls I use a 10mm from the inside to be sure you get the hole where you really want it, then drill from outside with the bigger drill just go easy at the end, normally works well.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a great tip!
Really enjoyed this video Jordan. Currently doing my apprenticeship so love watching a few of you guys seeing what sort of work you do. Keep up the good work!
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent so good to hear of people like you getting into the industry well done
thanks really appreciate this, i personally due to my lack of experience needed more talk on the new tails, the henry blocks and calculation decision on load on these, thanks again
Love the vids mate! Really helps me out, I’ve just passed my am2 so I want to be where you are eventually. Keep up the good work mate
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reece
I think if you take the time to put things right, its because you care. I would expect that hasn't gone unnoticed. You'll reap the rewards for it it in other ways. Great video. You at least set the bar high for others to heed.
As a retired sparks I found your video a great delight and information I like to keep up with changes in the industry- thanks.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary!
I learnt so much! Thankyou for such brilliant videos I really really appreciated watching this 😊
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 😁
Looks a nice job to have had done. Looks good. I normally use a normal drill on hammer not sds, it doesnt blow the brick. If the wall is solid I start with sds. Liking the 'b roll' in the video, edited well. I like it. 👍🏼
Top Genuine Guy. Keep up the great work
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
Great video Jordan, keep them coming. 👍
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Great job again like always
Another great video - keep them coming 👍👍👍
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard
Great video. Thanks
Great job
Prep all of the board your fitting before you mount it on the wall mate. Saves so much time 👌
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
Another great vid mate
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry
Great videos Jordan.👍
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gavin!
Spot on 👍🏼. Would have liked you to show testing of the 3 phase socket. Looking forward to the kewtech review. I use the megger 1721 & megger separates. I found the fluke to be too inaccurate especially continuity. Keep the vids coming😁
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
4 жыл бұрын
He did do some testing, he just didn't go into much detail what he was doing.
Hi great job, next time please show in more details really enjoys your videos.
great channel, and great vid!
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Love the intro Jordan!
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
Another great vid. Big improvement on the music. 👍
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason I tried to tone it down a bit
Very nice to see, how it goes with 3 phase plug installation. So it is 32A ? Any big diffrence when 64A would be needed?
Can you provide more details about the Compression Gland & 3 phase Tails Insert / Kit that you used please Jordan ?
Good video Jordan... shitty difficult situation,.. you did well.
At least here in Germany you are not allowed to use a 40A MCB for a 32A CEE socket. Why you didn't use a 32A MCB for this job?
Use metal cable ties with the metal mounting bracket with a wardog screw, there's your protection against collapse covered simple and cheapest way.. also grab a dewalt battery t&e cable staple gun very handy bit of kit..
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Nice but expensive!
Clips for your heavy black cable. How about a small tin of black enamel paint and a small paint brush (could use a child's painting brush - "throw away")?
Neat job. 👍
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Was the neutral link missing from the kit or was it an additional part you need to order?
How do you find the KT63? I had one for a couple of years now and decided to send it back to get the DL upgrade. it's such a user friendly tester
Regarding identifying pre existing problems with other previous installs I would consider the following ... Tell your client during the initial visit, that you are obliged to address any yet unforeseen electrical issues as "due dilligence", and if so the client can choose to have the problem remedied at their expense by you or another contractor. However, time and financial constraints might create problems. You might even have to disconnect a circuit if deemed unsafe until the opportunity to correct defects arises. Gas installers often cap fires off and label them as unsafe ... For example .😉
6:20 "Here in my cupboard, with my new three phase distribution board.. but you know what I love more than that? Knowledge!"
Firefly cleats from SWA there black metal and designed for SWA also great video as per
Thanks for the video Jordan. As an aspiring sparky, did you join the tails to the Henley blocks live or did you pull the DNO fuse. Looking forward to the Kewtech review.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Safe isolation is vital, I pulled the main fuse and resealed afterwards
@shawnshawn911
2 жыл бұрын
Where is the Kewtech review?
Your only responsibility is to inform the client of anything you observe that you feel is unsafe and note it in the 'comments on existing installation' box. If they aren't willing to pay to have it fixed, then that's on them. It's almost worse that you installed the original socket but rather than calling you back to relocate it, they thought "We'll save ourselves a few quid and just move it ourselves".
@thomasbonse
3 жыл бұрын
Could've been worse, they could've shortened the armored cable themselves.
I use black banding for fire rating on swa👍👍 When you see dodgy electrics while installing just note it down on cert in comments on existing
@ 5:21 what fixing did u use to fix the cable back against the tile?
Your vlogs are getting better so keep it up...but you need to get some new creps bruvs 🤣🤣
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, what are creps?
@charliemarlie7780
4 жыл бұрын
@@artisanelectrics creps = shoes/boots/footwear 🤣🤣...
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Tas why don’t you like the ones I’ve got?!
@charliemarlie7780
4 жыл бұрын
@@artisanelectrics nothing personal.. you have a shiny new van new tools always look smart... but thoses shoes look as old as the 1st edition wiring regs !
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Tas 😂 they are actually only 2 years old and cost me £80 and I love them!
Never ever fix anything for free that wasn't your fault. If you find something unsafe and report it to the client and they refuse to pay to fix it then that's their problem. List on the sheets what faults you find and put in the notes that the client didn't want them fixing, cover your own back at all times
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Good comment thanks
@Romeworld95
2 жыл бұрын
But when changing a board, how would you list that in the EIC?
That old MEM is probably better than most of the crap we use nowadays. Do the work you’re there to do, anything else the custom is advised whilst on site with a written follow up Also why do some mft meters not self start on tests? That would soon drive me mad
Your tails feeding the board must have been close to 3m if so would you have put an isolator on ?
Did you use exterior filler, if not it will just blow. Personally i always have a couple of small tubs of sand and cement handy for stuff like that.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah of course it’s external filler I prefer that to sand and cement because you don’t have to paint it after
@MrNav9591
4 жыл бұрын
Artisan Electrics where did you manage to get that 3 phase meter gland kit with 4 holes and 1 for the earth from...
OCD alert - where you shortened the swa to the 3PH socket you fitted last year, I would have fixed all cleats with the screws inside the loop - just think it looks neater and more purposeful.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
5:53 why not use NYM-J 5x16 Cable and a proper Meterbox from Hensel Electric like the KV 9339 !?!?!?
Hmm you had 3 core and earth swa installed for the 3 phase socket, and you have used a piranha nut with a fly lead on the outgoing side, since you haven't used the steel sheath as earth isn't then the fly lead a bit overkill? Or is it per actual regulation?
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
nietzscheposterchild we always earth the sheath even if it’s not used as the CPC it’s just good practise
2:02 fire rated clips on wood shows how ridiculous some of the regs are. the clip wont collapse but the wood its screwed to will
Great vid as usual. How long did the job take from start to finish? 🐵
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
2 days if I remember right.
The company ‘SWA’ do make metallic black cleats. I buy mine from Edmundsons electrical
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks will check it out
@peterhambleton7428
4 жыл бұрын
182allstar why not use cable band (pvc coated) no need for loads of different size screws, washers etc saves space on the van too.
For metal clips, why not use patent all round band?
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people suggested that!
Drill with a smaller bit .you can get 6mm up to 3ft long.then build up to what you want.
@artisanelectrics
3 жыл бұрын
👍
I generally use clipping band I call it’s a Steel band with holes in but it’s black so blends in with the cable a bit more. Have you used the metal cable clips for t and e what a waste of time they are.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Good info will look into that, haven’t done much t&e lately so not tried the metal clips yet. Which ones did you use?
@jamiedockerill4576
4 жыл бұрын
Schneider clips. I always use Medlocks in Walden but the sizes baffled me they did a 1-2.5mm then a larger one for 4-6mm So when using with 1mm they were miles too big.
@jamiedockerill4576
4 жыл бұрын
All round band. This is what I use for swa as a mettallic clip. This stuff has so many uses I use to fix my ducting to kitchen islands to sub floor/ fixing extract ductings etc. I think it’s made by swa brand.
You raise a really interesting point about finding bad or dangerous Electrics in a property. Doesn't matter whether it is Domestic or Commercial, if there is a risk to public, are we obliged to fix the issue once we have found it? Personally, I think it depends on the severity of what you are looking at. For example, the example of the old isolator at 05:15 is open, and someone could quite easily flick it open and receive a shock (if it is live). I would check if it is live, and if it is, is it in use? If yes still, can I fix the broken door? If still no, then I would put a strong recommendation in to the customer to replace it, and put it on the certificate that advise has been given. At the stage you are losing time/money it's not fair to expect you to work for no money. So a quote should be agreed with the customer before proceeding. Also, what happens if you change it and it goes wrong, have you now got to go back to fix it again for free? After all it was you that touched it last... As for the socket, yes it's unfixed cabling, but you did the job to the correct standard before they moved it. Your certificate can no longer be valid as they have tampered and altered the work you completed. So it is not your fault, or in your interest to rectify it. However, I would probably do the same as it's a reputation thing!!! In summary, I think it depends on severity of what you find, and what you perceive the risk to be. Enjoying the vids!
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Great comments thanks
I didn't think you could use the Kewtech KT 63 on single phase (230V) installations, can it measure PSCC between phase conductors?
@chrissharpe2781
4 жыл бұрын
Alvin Ashman measured PSCC for one phase then double it to get P-P PSCC. At least that’s what I was told by Guy on the T&I course. I hope that’s right cos I’ve been doing that for years.
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrissharpe2781 Yes, you are right, you measure the PSCC between each of the phase conductors and neutral then you double your highest reading. Most modern MFT's should be able to carry out a direct measurement between phases but I don't think the Kewtech KT 63 can.
That's what happens when I drill the coated floors on vans (1:10) . Doh!
Hi Jordan... the link to your other channel isn’t working. Well for me. Thanks.
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Ok will check that thanks
Back on 5pm 😀
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! ⚡️
The incoming mains to the new board with a metal clip round the cables is a bad idea the cables could get heated on overload and cut through the insulation.Its the same as passing cables through a hole without a gromet.A rubber lined metal P clip would be better.
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
4 жыл бұрын
That'll have to be some heat to melt through two layers of installation.
Hi Jordan ,d line do a black swa version
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link?
@darenvitaelectrical5310
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan I found them in my wholesaler Gil lec they have an internet site too ,this link is from the manufacturer basically just a bigger adjustable conduit clip www.d-line-it.com/products/safe-d-adjustable-clips/
Videography has improved massively really good however sound quality is poor good work and vids either way
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah there was a lot of background noise from the large walk in fridge
I have a fluke and find when testing ze or zs you have to zero the leads I will then test and get a reading but if I then zero the leads again the lead resistance will be even lower now some power has gone through them then test ze again and get a totally different reading. Have you ever tried this
@tomorichard
4 жыл бұрын
Zero does not have any function on the ze setting only low ohms scale. I have had flukes in the past and found them to be buggy And general not great testers. Megger ball the way. Expensive but worth the weight in gold
@gd-bq7em
4 жыл бұрын
@@tomorichard sorry what do you mean zero dose not have any function on ze settings
@tomorichard
4 жыл бұрын
greg davies when you zero your leads it only applies to the low ohm/continuity setting.
@tomorichard
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry after reading a few posts online it suggests that flukes still take the null Into account on loop tests... I don’t believe my megger does but possibly. Will have to test that
@gd-bq7em
4 жыл бұрын
@@tomorichard yeah you have to zero fluke for earth loop tests. It makes a massive difference to the readings try it. But like I say turn it on zero leads test ze or zs get your reading then zero then again and test again see if its different
didnt see any earth bonding on any of the pipework in the cupboard
Why armoured cable for everything in UK?
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea 😂
@evzenhedvabny6259
4 жыл бұрын
Because they do not have 5 core NY cable. Well they have but it is hard to get. Especially thicker one than 2.5. Sometimes i kind of love their obsession with SWA cables. SWA you can run anywhere 😉 .
hi
Why did you swap mft for ze and ir
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Just trying the new tester out
@h901111
4 жыл бұрын
What was the reason for purchasing the new tester?
Kewtech KT63 is dog shit I'm afraid - when the batteries get to 2 bars the readings vary dramatically for no apparent reason. Also can't do a proper 2 lead test like you can on Meggers / Fluke MFTs - you have to piggy back the neutral & earth leads. proper nightmare in industrial settings if the DB happens to have Rcd main switch....
We all know the job of a sparky is to make as much mess as possible and then blame it on the plumber…….
Just don’t look around😂do the work you are paid for at the time
@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can’t help but notice things!
If it is really unsafe,its your responsibility to tell the client that this isnt safe and MUST be mended!Because if you don't and later on there is a accident and someone is hurt or dead,then they come to you and ask why you did it like that!You are the professional and should know better than to not change it.You could even be banned from your profession!
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@artisanelectrics
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
"I don't actually know if its live or not" after touching the fucking uncovered cable hanging out thr bottom of it! 🤦♂️