Get a load of gravel, put it in plastic bags, and lay them in the drain before putting the covers on. It will make them too heavy to float when the concrete is poured.

I absolutely love watching machinists do construction work. They have a completely different take on "good enough".

It’s really disturbing that people don’t take pride in their work. I remember my late grandfather who as a master cabinet maker took great pride in his work. When helping my grandfathers, he seen that I was doing an half ass job . He made me stop after throwing a hand full of nails at me and told me to walk home saying; ‘if you’re not going to do a job right, don’t do it at all’! Never forget that lesson in life!

@pickelsvonbrine

2 жыл бұрын

I work in computer repair and the amount of half assed or poorly done work I find is incredible. Screws missing, cables torn, ran wrong or straight up missing, things misaligned. I can go one and one. What is even more frustrating? When it comes back from manufacture warranty repair center and you find new issues that weren’t there! Good on your grandpa showing you how to do it right. Not matter what anyone does, take a little time and have pride. If you cannot do even that then don’t do the job. Sorry if this sounds directed at you John. It is not. Just me speaking generally.

When the floor is poured ensure that the the drain is not proud of the floor. I have seen a hundred slabs poured in such a manner that the drains end up as small islands with a small moat around the drain when water is present. I am sure that the same issue is possible with a trench drain. Good luck with your building, we are all rooting for you.

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, you mean like the puddles that sit around the trench drain in our current shop?

@paulmace7910

2 жыл бұрын

It amazes me that no matter what size of floor being poured the whole thing is screeded off by a guy with a 4 ft 2x4. The only thing I’ve seen leveled right is a warehouse floor for an automatic material handling system. That Polycast drain is awesome stuff if done right but a total waste if the concrete guy screws up.

@davereeves1967

2 жыл бұрын

You've described every floor drain in every mechanical room in every building I've ever worked in.

@TyphoonVstrom

2 жыл бұрын

This is really good advice from Darrell. A great way to achieve this is to put a 1/4- 1/2" spacer on top of the drain for the concreters to rod off, then when they come back to finish, it leaves a nice little step down to the drain which can simply be bevelled off with a trowel.

@genehart261

2 жыл бұрын

It's how you keep the drain from clogging, slope floor away so nothing goes into drain!

Man I wish I could help build a shop like this, I dream of having one my self some day and seeing someone take on the job them selfs in the name of doing a proper job is so satisfying. My respect to the two of you✊

I've found that the cleanliness of the jobsite is a big factor in the quality of the work. It sets the standard for the job.

Love the little yellow shop truck.

Very well done gentlemen! I've been plumbing since 1997. This December marks my 20th year in business for myself. I have put in lots of the Zurn (886) integrated slope drain, but never the ACO polycast. I just recently bid a house with a show garage in the basement that called out 6 separate trench drains totaling 60 linear feet. The builder crapped his pants when he got my proposal, and has chosen to have the concrete company install the drains. I predict we'll end up in the same boat you are...... tearing out their crappy work, and reinstalling it correctly. CHEAP FAST QUALITY WORKMANSHIP Pick 2

I have a wheel barrow exactly like yours, steel wheel, belonged to my grand parents.

Union plumber here. I understand the frustration of a hack plumber too lol also want to compliment you and you ol man on am amazing job

Nice job guy’s looks very professional!!!!! It’s really hard to find good and honest contractors now days.

Bad contractors drive me crazy. Good job 👍

OK, three hours later, thanks to you guys and your video content and instruction, two guys installed 60 linear feet in three hours. I owe you guys.!!

We expanded our house a few years ago, and renovated my room last year. In the expansion, my dad put in all the wiring wand water pipes himself, and when renovating my room we did everything ourself, from ripping everything out, putting in new insulation, installing the drywall, installing the roof window, rerunning electrical, and putting in flooring and wallpaper. Having those skills is really useful, and you can learn a lot of things when doing that.

Awesome fellas get it done yourselves!

Superbly done.

And for us folks in the aviation business there was a flash of a a crop duster!!

If you need any advice I have been building buildings my whole life. Things like all the small detail in building a shop really get me. As I see in your shop, you have not taken full advantage of underground mechanical electrical and plumbing. Stop now and think about it. The most inexpensive way to wire, and plumbing is under the floor. Air lines, dust collection, electrical, heat. I advise to hold off on the pour and think that out. Hindsight you could have had all the electrical, air, and vacuum lines in the CMU walls, fed underground beforehand. Even your 3 way switch is less expensive underground.

@ObservationofLimits

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Maybe main runs but having underfloor wiring and plumbing can be an absolute bitch. Especially if you ever expand.

I love your channel!! The shorts got me here. Great job on the drain system!!

Installing 126’ of this system starting today, great video, following your lead! Ty guys!

Looks great guys! Looking forward to more updates.

Good job guys. Too bad so many of these contractors are lazy and do it just enough to get it done. doesn't mean it's right. So glad you put videos on KZread. I really enjoy watching them

Yeah - agreed - good contractors that take pride in their work are not readily available anymore! When I saw your dad pondering/thinking 0:45, it reminded me of my "thinking stance".....You run so much "data" through your mind to make sure you didn't miss anything!!! Awesome video and work!!!!!

Thanks for sharing!

Great work ,great video,great narration

You guys are kicking ass.

Dude I feel your pain…. As a Maintenance manager responsible for a decent size fleet of equipment the past year or so has been hell. Everything from ordering parts to dealing with truck shops to trying to get general contractors or roofers to come in and maintain our buildings..it’s next to impossible. The excuse continues to be delays and back ups from Covid but I also don’t see a lot of people putting in the extra effort to work more hours or work at all in some cases. Nice job with your drain

I have installed many of dreams like that. Penicillin floating drains. They're a pain in the butt but you have to do it right the first time period and pray that the blueprints are absolutely correct

When we put ours down we shrink wrapped the grates and bolted them down with the grate retainers

thats a damn shame the world we live in today, pay people to do a job and most of the time its done half-assed anymore, if at all. keep up the hard work!

Great job 👍🏻🇦🇺

Your lucky we were MANDATED to install Double Wall Containment Trench

I always bite the bullet and go ahead and Milwaukee brand power tools, the one time out of 30 plus years I ever had a problem was with an electric saw 6 months after I bought it. Took it up to the service center they told me to take to when I called their tech support, wasn't there 2 minutes they asked me what was wrong with it and just handed me a brand new saw in the box and told me a dozen times how sorry they were I had trouble.

@ObservationofLimits

2 жыл бұрын

Something I dislike about the new Milwaukee power tools, especially the 3/8 and 1/4” hex impacts is that the “1” power setting is between 2 and 3 on the previous generation. Meaning I unfortunately now have twice as many impacts because I can’t use the new ones on small or non-ferrous stuff.

I am sure that these machine shop men has done it perfectly right, as when they are working on engines in the machine shop.

Hell yeah brother

Great work! And yeah, things are getting bad, you can't buy quality tools any more, or get quality work done anymore, ( it's few and far between anyway) ppl seem to think their time is worth soo much Moore than anyone elses.. not wanting to do things right at any price. Myself, if I'm going to bother with it, I'm going to do it right, reminds me of valves I had installed locally,. I had 2.02" valves put in a set of 350 Chevy heads, all the guy did was cut the seat, stuck the valves in! Charged me for a complete valve job, going from 1.94" to 2.02's all that did was shroud the valves, choke the flow, I could almost done that myself! B Anyway, great work! I wish I could build a shop like that!!

I prefer monolithic over floating slab. Much easier to grade without dealing with the walls being up first.

where does the catch basin drain to? you both did great!

Perfect💙 🥊😂💎

Excellent work, are you going to hire a new general contractor, or opt to finish most the work yourselves?

Shouldn't each section joint be sealed with some sort of silicone or butyl sealant? I see the catch basin, but no drain, are you just going to put a sump pump in it?

when can we expect an update on this build? I subscribed after watching this clip and I'm eager to find out how the rest of this project is coming along.

Very well done! From where can I order this drain and catch basin? Thank you!

If I didn’t know- I thought you guys are plumbers ! Nice work

I wanna know more about the little truck!!

Can you tell me the exact type, name and/or model number of the complete drain system you're installing? I'm in the process of putting up a post frame storage/man cave building, 60x120x18. I've been looking at the slot drain system right now and just want to look at all my options! I will be following along on your build, take c are and don't work to hard!

channel drain to be installed in pool deck and ran to pvc and run under concrete, how to keep from freezing in winter?

There's good contractors out there just very hard to find.

I was going to say that wheelbarrow was pretty old looking pretty shallow.

Don't you want it to be a little bit sloped so that water runs one way?

I can't help but notice you guys set all at level the water is not going to flow you need atleast an 1/8 or 1/4 pitch for proper drainage I hope you guys pitched that because if not your gonna end up having to rip it out and redo it

Hey! Great job! Just one question, sohouldn't the drain hace a 1% slope towards wherever you want the liquids to go? I thoght i heard you say ""they are perfectly leveled" Sorry for muy english

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

The slope is built into the sections of drain! The top is level, bottom is sloped

@johnlratcliffe

2 жыл бұрын

So each one is increasingly bigger?

@lt1nut

Жыл бұрын

@@johnlratcliffe Taller/higher sidewalls as it approaches the catch basin; correct. That is also why there are multiple cut-out depths in the side wall(s) of the basin.

Why did you do floating instead of Monolithic

Where does the drain even go?

You are in Colorado springs right?? If you do need a contractor I have someone I could recommend, I use too work for him.

In the defense of the plumbers, in twenty years in the construction business as a plumber I never did that. It was the general contractor or the concrete contractor. We try to cover up most of our work!

Are y’all still building?

It’s a shame there’s VERY LITTLE craftsmanship left in the world out there anymore. I see this crap all the time. Looks like you guys do a great job. Teach someone your trade so the knowledge gets passed on, that’s what’s lacking these days😎😎

HF tools like the cutoff saw work way, way better with a good blade (i.e. non-HF). Stay away from HF sandpaper as well.

Where’s the show crane video?

No seal between the sections?

@ObservationofLimits

2 жыл бұрын

It looks like they had nested lips so shouldn’t be too big of an issue. I would have probably sealed them anyways though, especially if oil products are gonna go through that trough. Never know when the EPA is gonna show up and condemn your land and say you can’t sell it for 1,000 years because a teaspoon of motor oil leaked into the dirt.

Hey Jim, are you available for hire? I will be your agent!!! Nice job, want to call Fischer back so they can see how its done??

That is one reason I hate paying to get stuff done................spend big money, nobody cares, and its screwed up anyhow..............Atleast if I screw it up, you learn something, fix it, have a good story to tell, and still saved money.

It’s embarrassing that so many people call themselves “professionals” when an amateur can do it themselves with better results. People need to start taking more pride in their work.

Great job guys.........don't forget to boohoo the contractors that couldn't do their job online.

Finding competent, qualified contractors and tradespeople is not complicated, but it may require patience. It will not be cheap. It may take time to find the right person. Skilled contractors with good reputations are usually busy, so it might be weeks or months until they are available. The good guys: qualified, experienced, conscientious (licensed, bonded, INSURED) contractors with hard-earned reputations for quality do not come cheap. "Contractors" with glossy online ads🚩 that say they can "start right away" 🚩 for the lowest price🚩don't do it.

shouldn't you have some fall in that drain?

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

The fall is built into the bottom of the drain. The top gets installed level.

@sterlingmyers560

2 жыл бұрын

@@JAMSIONLINE that's cool

Good help is hard to find every where. Kids play with mice instead of working and learning skills...

@JustinPaul1st

2 жыл бұрын

Mate nothing wrong with playing with mice....but i reckon balancing kids skills between school sport recreation and socialising is fundamentally what gets it right

No respirators?

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

For what?

@H-RutherfordHill

2 жыл бұрын

@@JAMSIONLINE The concrete dust.

Are you. Tieiñg into an oil seperator

This video is 2 years old, but I can't believe I have never seen this. Yes, I myself have had to go behind the professionals and get it done right myself. And this was 20-30 years ago. What a shame. No wonder America is falling

Why the hell aren't you laying on semi-dry concrete 🤣

I mean there is a chickenwire shortage how much worst could it get 🤷‍♂️

And here I thought that building trades who do not give a shit are only in Australia. What a shame for you guys. I really hope this turns out well for you. May I ask why they could not be bothered? Is your site too far out of town? Is there a shortage of building trades in your area?

@erik_dk842

2 жыл бұрын

I guess they are like that all over the world. Most customers only get stuff built once or twice in their lifetime, so the building trades don't have to worry about them as returning customers. When the economy is good, carpenters and masons can pick and choose, and they sign on several projects to be built at the same time, and do the least work on the little guy's site, which they draw out and use as a filler between other projects. Then they file bankrupcy from time to time, so you can't get back at them.

tell yor dad to rest to.

What sucks is somebody at the Smithsonian is going to get fired for letting y’all have that wheelbarrow.

If the women don't find you handsome, at least they can find you handy.

Beautiful and very sad good skilled labor is dying by the day in America.

Professionals do professional things. Just cause they charge doesn't mean anything

Delays with the local government. Go figure. Government rarely *helps* with anything.

@ObservationofLimits

2 жыл бұрын

Also, power tools are hit and miss with Harbor Freight. Often the motors are fine but the bearings or housings are junk. I never use their cutoff / abrasion wheels.

It absolutely sucks that you guys can't find competent contractors to do the job right.

Thank you for pronouncing helical correctly. Now if you can, get your audience to say "oil galley" (NOT "gallery")

@2aminitials

2 жыл бұрын

A galley is a kitchen. A gallery is a long and narrow passage, apartment, or corridor.

@joelpalmer

2 жыл бұрын

@@2aminitials No a galley is a long narrow passage. Gallery is an exhibition area. You will never see the oil plugs called anything but "galley plugs"

lol, contractors are dirt bags. If you need it done correctly, unfortunately you probably have to do it yourself...

As a pro in this field you’re gonna have problems with that drain. It’s not right and the cheap $3 a bag garbage quick Crete is gonna cause tons of problems and failure points. I understand you had issues with the people you hired but you’re not contractors. Just like I am an expert in this field, not auto mechanics but I decide to machine and build my engine with no experience doing it. How well do you think that engine will be built? Would it come out the same if you guys did it? That drain is gonna fail. Your pitch is wrong. The pitch is determined by the length of the run and width of the drain. The joints aren’t sealed, the rebar is not supposed to touch dirt. Totally against all code for anything in this country. It causes rust and failure immediately. And that quickcrete 🤦🏼‍♂️. Basically you’re screwed

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

Oh really? Can you elaborate what problems we will have? Nothing wrong with an amateur building their own engine. That's how you learn! In fact, a large portion of our customers who purchase engine kits from us on our website are learning! How is our pitch wrong? What is our pitch, and what should it be? Joints don't have to be sealed. What do you suggest the rebar touches? Should it float in the air? What is wrong with the quickcrete? You have offered quite a bit of criticism, but not one point of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism where you suggest what would have been better other than claiming only a professional can do it. We've seen what the "professionals" can do. Floor is in, and it drains perfectly. But what do I know lol

@keepitreal4046

2 жыл бұрын

I did. Re read it then try understanding it. If you have to, research what I said. Engines and experimenting with them are easy and not permanent. This trench drain is permanent unless you want to demolish the whole floor and redo it after the fact costing 30 times what it is now. That’s your choice. You can do what you want. I really don’t care. You’re trying to justify bad decisions and wrong workmanship in this project. You both clearly have and had no idea what you were doing. You will see down the road. It’s apples and oranges kiddo.

@JAMSIONLINE

2 жыл бұрын

Lol that’s what I thought. Must be a boomer.

@edbouhl3100

2 жыл бұрын

So … the manufacturer’s instructions violate code? Got any specific section numbers?

@BlowinDroTGOD

Жыл бұрын

What should one use between the joints for sealer?

Why the hell aren't you laying on semi-dry concrete 🤣