Doesn’t have money for gravel during excavation, but now has money for 8” pvc 🤣🤣🤣. Would love to know how many out there have said “I should have listened to Gate City.” 😂😂😂. Cannot believe he still didn’t let you plan and execute this drainage system. Some never learn.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

He's come a long way Brian. He did some excellent drainage work at his house and he's taking drainage concerns into consideration right now as he's building his new place.

@skitzochik

8 күн бұрын

​​@@GCFD maybe he should be letting you take his drainage issues into consideration, you are the professional after all and you've proven that time & time again. Your a great friend for doing thousands of dollars worth of work for free only to have to go back because he was so hard headed. Anyway..awaiting part 2.

@gamking7987

8 күн бұрын

@@skitzochik it happens to me alot too, some of my clients want to do a French drain, crawl space encapsulation or something else, they get surprise cause I differ so much from other companies, because that's all they see on tv adds or recommendations from other companies, I usually back away from those clients.

@skitzochik

8 күн бұрын

@@gamking7987 yea it's a rare day when you come across a company or tradesman thats not out to rip you off. Hats off to honest men like you boys.

@paulbetka6477

8 күн бұрын

Yea looking forward to a follow-up video

Props to Carson for framing the whole experience as a learning opportunity. He probably knew he'd be roasted in the comments, but gave his blessing to have it posted anyway. Thanks, Carson and Shawn!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I'll talk more about that in P2. I need a little more footage and I'll be ready to upload it. Wednesday perhaps.

@Stratos53100

8 күн бұрын

Well said... Live & Learn...i would prob fail if i was doing it all myself....Carson is lucky to have Shawn as a Pro instead of forking out a few $$$$ more to have it all done by other contractors etc etc

I wouldn't give Carson too hard a time. Optimism and financial conservatism are a powerful tag-team, especially when costs are piling up. Sometimes *when* the money is spent matters more than the end total. And sometimes we have to let a friend learn the hard way -- and this particular lesson is better learned on a garage than a house :)

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Exactly! He's done some great drainage work at his house and now drainage issues are a big part of his new house build.

Yeesh Carson is headstrong. You have a lot more patience than I do.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

👍👍

@ryanwaltos2206

7 күн бұрын

@@GCFD Has he been to a casino lately with Tom Cruise ? It may not necessarily be 'hard headedness' but his personality may exhibit other things at play

I really like the ducks. The ducks coming and going in high-speed was funny. Thanks for another great video!

Those ducks really wanted in on the action:)

@GCFD

6 күн бұрын

They were the stars of this video for sure

GCFD off-piste! Best of luck to Carson, he obviously wants to try and think of solutions and learn from things along the way. Really interesting to see how your methods and style of work fit in with Carson's ideas and requirements. I'm off to watch Pt2!

Great video, Shawn! As for Carson, he is EXTREMELY frustrating. He had 2 shots at taking great advice from a PRO and failed both times. And if he can call buying a huge plot of land and building on it a "learning experience", then shame on him for being cheap when it comes to things like 'more gravel' and 'PVC fittings'.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

@@BigHermAZ he’s got drainage at the front of his house build so he’s making good use of these lessons.

No offense to Carson but you, Sir, are an expert and fountain of knowledge in regards drainage and how to solve flooding issues... To push back, disagree, even put his foot down on what HE wants, to me, is foolish. I've watched your videos, as you've posted em, for a few years (& binged everything prior several times over). While I've learnt a lot from watching them I KNOW my limitations and if I'd have you in to do a job I'd give you free reign and let you decide on what to do and where the pipes (basins) go. But, as they say "The customer is always right!" (Even when they're not).

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Thanks for supporting my channel! I'm glad you are enjoying and learning from my stuff! - Shawn

The ducks are the best part of this job!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Haha they are fun

@zarathrustra2011

6 күн бұрын

I was going to add the same thing! I did enjoy seeing the ducks trying to help as well!

I love the newest helpers, ducks are great workers LOL

With friends like you who needs family.

@GCFD

6 күн бұрын

He's a good one.

Asks the expert for advise then won't take it,LOL. Daffy's relatives were having a blast in the disturbed soil.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Haha keep that in mind when you watch part 2. I laughed out loud! You'll see what I mean very soon 👍

Impressed with the ducks & geese checking out the dirt…

@racerx009

8 күн бұрын

They were saying: hey wait, we like all that water by the building. 😉

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

They were definitely interested in what we were digging!

@Tomcatt817

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD When you dig, you disturb the bugs. Disturbed bugs are easy to catch and eat. I have seen the same with guys mowing or mulching fields, the birds are right there for the easy meal. And just like in this one, they will play chicken with the machine.

@timearp8185

8 күн бұрын

@t8ne yep, loved seeing this!

1) sort your drainage needs before building. 2) as soon as you catch water, you have to deal with it- don't catch it you don't have to! 3) each system needs its own pipes.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I like you second bullet point! Hint.

@timearp8185

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD and me, it's probably cheaper as well.

@watchthe1369

7 күн бұрын

4) cut nipples long, you can trim down

Ok. Back from rewatching you 300+ videos. Can confirm. Never put a catch basin that close 😅

@timearp8185

8 күн бұрын

@@alexplisko7794 never catch what you don't need to!

Only watched part 1, but this is promising content!

He seems to be the guy who respects trial and error! My grandfather would say learning the hard way! Lol its his money so he will eat the bills each time… he honestly may enjoy this process! Lol like an addict 😂 good patience and skillset Shawn! Cant wait for part two!

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

@@GiftedDotado thank you! He’s come a long way and is taking drainage now into sharp consideration

I can appreciate Carson's hardhead-ness, I think a lot of us are that way. I can see me doing the 4" lines dropping in the catch basin like Carson did, to save some money. Appreciate the lessons learned this one gives us all, though I feel bad for Carson as they are at his expense.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Very well said Benjamin! I really wanted to tell the story of how this situation happened.

Best line ever. "I don't know why anybody would wanna build down to code". Exactly!!!! Code is a floor to build up FROM not a ceiling to build up To!

Man those OSHA safety agents are sneaky, disguising themselves as Ducks, and following you guys around like that.... Hahaha

Dead giveaway that you have drainge problems; the ducks circle your house waiting for the ponds to return.

Looked as though he built that unit on a lake. It's looked it 4 r 5 inches deep or deeper. Well seen he got those 8 inch pipes. Really needs it. Good job Shawn.

I love the ducks just roaming around throughout the video.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

They were pretty fun being on the job and running around! I'm glad it came through in this video.

@AtomicBuffalo

8 күн бұрын

When I saw the ducks hanging about I knew we were in the low spot :)

In all your professional solutions Shawn, you NEVER cut corners - which is why you let Carson cut his catch basin corner!! Great video - sharing work and explaining why this solution is not recommended. I’m looking forward to the next one 👍

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Thank you! I need to get back down to his building to show the most current situation and I'm hoping to get that footage tomorrow. P2 is coming soon.

@Jetpac74

6 күн бұрын

@@GCFD thanks for posting part2 a day earlier - it was a great surprise to see it and was a great video. Cheers Shawn.

Thanks for another interesting series! Love the real deal stories. Kudos to Carson for allowing you to tell it like it was. ❤

Have paused this video at 12:25 as you suggested. Am going back to re-watch all your other videos - back in a while to finish watching this one and comment further.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Hahah! Don't do that Ricky!

I'm just glad to see that you weren't using corrugated pipe it just amazes me how people ignore professionals and want to do things their way

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

He's come a long way so he definitely learned a lot from this.

Sean, tip for next time from an excavator operator: Next time you need to dig next to a building and slope a swale, use the grading bucket on the mini ex. All minis come with a built in 15* tilt bucket. Abandon the usual practice of having your blade in front or behind, and dig over the side: Position the blade facing the building, center over your ditch, then lower the blade all the way. It’ll tip your machine away from the building, putting your cutting edge at the angle you were looking for. 😎

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

Interesting.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

That’s a great tip! Thank you!

It's nice to see you have a supervisor duck to make sure you're doing your job😅

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

He was pleased. 10 out of 10

@getschwifty8449

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD 🤣

@Kriss_L

8 күн бұрын

Might be another branch of the Duck Mafia.

I love all the Site Supervisors you have on this job... Just make sure their Kibitzing doesn't drive you completely Quackers... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

As you put the camera in the trench and started filming as you were walking I was thinking of the Star Wars Death Star scene! Right before Carson mentioned it. Good job for the things that you had a say on!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I thought that was a pretty cool shot! That was a pretty trench for sure.

@AtomicBuffalo

8 күн бұрын

I immediately said "almost there..."

Never heard hindsight is 50/50 before lol

@MaximaPolak

8 күн бұрын

🤣 should be hindsight is 20/20

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

@@rebel3353 that’s the joke! No one ever notices

Aside from doing that massive french drain. Dig a trench along his foundation. Clean it off, drill holes all along it, epoxy 10 penny nails, build a form to make a 4 inch concrete curb against the buildling..

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Great idea!

I got bit by two mosquitos as soon as this video started.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Ouch!

I can’t wait for part 2!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I'm hoping to have it up by Wednesday or so.

Learned long ago to listen to professionals. Reinventing the wheel is never ideal. I'm an engineer, and I can easily tell you I DO NOT know everything. There. I said it.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I'm a scientist and the only thing I'm certain about is that I don't know everything.

@Hoopsjvl

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD Amen. I'd like to say that means we both must have "arrived", but I know better, ha.

The customer is always right. Cheers.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

Haha Laurie

"Not in the business of saving glue", lol. I knew a guy who on coffee breaks commented 'are you paying for it?' if you were stingy on the milk.

I remember that pour, and you telling him then. He did not listen. You told him this time. He did not listen.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

He's getting great experience in drainage work and has done some awesome stuff at his place. I was out there and he liked my ideas.

Is it ironic that the ducks are hanging around a flood zone?😂😂😂

Guard ducks doing their job. 🦆

@GCFD

6 күн бұрын

They are dedicated 👍

Carson is hard headed

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Haha He's a keeper though.

Shawn All i can say is OUCH surely a lesson learned hopefully.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

@@billlyttle8224 yes it was! It’s all good now though

"I'll wait." Love it.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Hahah

Regarding the catch basin. I immediately thought of "Part 1 of 4 The worst Apt. flooding I've ever seen". That is pretty close to the house I'd say. And you sent the water through the appartment too. Lol!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

That was a last possible option. I made sure they understood one very important thing about that CB in that apartment building. What do you think it was?

@jasonkyleadams7577

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD That is right, you warned the property manager that if the catch basin were to become clogged at any time, the flooding problem would return and damage those two apartments. I hope the company paid you in full for that job. It was a time investment.

@madmodders

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD Yes, the circumstances were the worst possible and it couldn’t have been done in any other way, I know that. I just thought it was funny that you actually had placed a basin that close before. And kind of hilarious sending the pipe through the building, thinking back on it afterwards. Thats’s all. It was a good solution. The only place downhill was the parking.

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

@@madmodders Yeah it was his most challenging project ever.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

@@jasonkyleadams7577 you got it Jason! I haven’t heard anything back in all this time

Carson remindes me of my Dad. Cheap and thinks he knows everything better than the profesionals. I would not have had the patience to help him do it wrong.

Well let's just hope it works as advertised, it's his money. Shawn see ya on the next one.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

👍👍

Sometimes what we need is a steep learning curve 🙃

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Haha!

@Kriss_L

8 күн бұрын

You might even call it a "full bubble" learning curve.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

@@Kriss_L full bubble in the wrong direction!

Carson's slab needed to be at least 6 inches taller. This one was a really obvious : (

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

@@mxp2000 I know and I tried and tried to get him to order more gravel. He was just done paying for gravel

Amen to don't catch it if you don't have to. Here at my mother in laws house, the back extension used to flood. Her parents who built the house were avid gardeners. They built flower beds and put in brick paths and at one time it looked beautiful. The problem is the flow of water is from West to East. West being up hill and East being down. The front of the house faces North and the back faces South. So there was water coming from uphill hitting the West side of the house and flowing to the South end of the house and then across the back yard. Right where all there lovely work put up barriers to the water. It ended up forcing water into the South room of the house. After the wife and I moved up here to take care of the mother in law, one of the first things I did with the new tractor is to tear up the flower beds, brick paths and regrade the back yard away from the house. For once not having gutters on the West side of the house was a blessing. 30 years of water running off created its own trench that flows South to the back yard. With the new grading the water sheds South past the house before turning East and continuing down the hill.

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

Well done.

Great job. Wish the guy listened to you and poured higher foundation.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

For sure!

Shawn telling Carson in Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice: listen to me now and believe me later.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I was thinking more "I'll be back" [to correct this].

@user-lh5kn8tv4f

8 күн бұрын

Lmaoo​@@GCFD

One of the best free things that someone can do to support a KZreadr in the KZread algorithm click-through rate (CTR) is by clicking and playing the video, all the way through, the very first time you see any of their video thumbnails. Don't save it for later, play it through right away, and if you don't have time to actually watch it right then and there, save it to the watch it later playlist, and then go back and watch it again.

Hindsight is 20/20 BTW, but another great video Shawn!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

That's the joke! No one ever notices when I say 50/50

Cheers sean

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

@@Mpro109 👍👍

It's part of the joy to not be 100% all the time. Gives us things to do!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

That's a great way to look at things Vanc! 👍

Hindsight is what lol 20/20 🙂

I am amazed that building doesn’t have gutters!😊

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

You're joking, no one's that stupid.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

They were installed about a year ago 👍

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

@@GCFD Although, it is a rural area, so I guess anything goes.......but an improvement nonetheless.

I think the death star run should be a new standard in every video!

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

I liked it too!

19:50 People build down to Minimum Code because 1) That's what you have to build to so the Inspectors don't Scream at you... 2) That's the Minimum to get a structure that isn't going to hurt or kill you... and 3) Building to Minimum Code instead of what you really should build to is FAR cheaper... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

I don't understand all the money he spent on everything else and he wants to cheap out on drainage but that's what he's getting. I hope he just doesn't come back and complain to you why stuff didn't work because he doesn't want to spend the money. Looking forward to the next video. It's going to be interesting. I've never seen you do anything like this from what I've been seeing and it's going to be interesting. I'll be looking forward to the next one. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦

After watching your videos for years I am really glad you made this one. This will be the most educational video yet so I can’t wait for part 2. How much you thinking the pipe and fittings cost vs gravel to raise the concrete pad for the initial pour?

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Probably the pipes cost 15 times more than some extra gravel. I made sure to clear this with Carson before I published it, at least what really happened here..

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

@@GCFD I don't think Carson had any idea the amount of criticism he was going to get. I sure hope he watches this video and reads at last my comments.

The catch basin comments at the beginning sound foreboding.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Great catch!

Answering the phone missed opportunity, "Call you back laying a LOT of pipe"

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

For sure

Wow So he didnt wanna just buy more stone and do it right in the beginning which has probably costed him more money and time in the end. He should have just listened to u and everything would have been fine.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I know, hindsight is always 20/20, but at the time he had already spent thousands on gravel. I wanted him to bring in more and he just wasn't having it.

@Dust76tr

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFDwait a sec, I thought hindsight was 50/50, like you said in the intro ;)

NDS part # 2411 or # 2412 24"x24" square grate with 1/2 head has a flow rate of 708.77 GPM, NDS part # 2410 2nd ring is rated for 1457.67 GPM, though I think it'd be closer to 532.62 GPM, an 8 inch pipe installed at a self-cleaning .347% slope can move 470 GPM, an 8 inch pipe installed at 1% slope can move 833 GPM, an 8 inch pipe installed at 2% slope can move 1211 GPM... I guess the math plays out though I'd want more intake.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Very interesting Bob!

@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869

8 күн бұрын

Per code you typically install drainage with a 1:96" pitch so flow doesn't scour out the soil underneath. In this guys case two 4 inch lines feeding a single 8" with that pitch won't increase overall flow enough to compensate. You can, of course, slope the discharge pipe much more since it's carrying discharge, not ground water.

@SlackerU

8 күн бұрын

@@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869 1.042% slope is too much for most installs on low-slope, especially in floodplain areas around developing cites. You only need 3 FPS to self-clean so you can use way-way less slope than 1:96 if you up-size the pipe. 4 inch only requires 0.78% slope to achieve 3 FPS but if you live on expansive-soil then you would want an install with more slope due to the pipe movement.

@iwastoldtherewouldbenomath6869

6 күн бұрын

@@SlackerU You're overthinking this. Code is generally 1/8" per foot. You can add more slope for corrugated and even less above 6 inch diameter smooth pipe.

Need more followup footage I love seeing the improvements in action!

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Coming up!

The catch basin is what will mess things up.. I would of just ran a French drain all the way through.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

👍👍

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

It's strange how people have an idea in their head just because it looks good and it's not related to their situation.

"The poor man pays twice"

@GCFD

6 күн бұрын

Sometimes for sure!

He didn't listen to you the last time which is why he has to do this now. You think we would have learned to listen to you since you have so much experience and are his friend. He knows you're not going to just try to have him spend his money on something unnecessary, but try to save him time and money in the long run by doing it right the first time. Good friend you are by being flexible and warning him, but still trying it his way.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is in play here.🤔

A 4"-6" curb on the slab would have helped then frame on top of that.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

For sure!

I noticed everyone right now is saying “oh I’m just helping a friend” no one has actual jobs right now.🤣

I'm hard headed like Carson, i have paid my fair share of dollars in mistakes. Learning has not been free for me.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

It's the same for me porky! I try to listen to those who know more than I do. 👍

Well, I empathise with your predicament Shawn. I think Carson just got too obsessed with those lakes, ponds, ducks, geese, who knows what. He just should have said yes to whatever you suggested and kept his mouth shut. It wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't seen any of your video's. This is a different kind of educational video you have brought us.

What a waste of your time, though Carson paid for everything but your time. Makes me feel like he should of done this all himself and don't even waste your time on that property. I do love that you shared it with us so we can see the mistakes of others. Must be a good family friend if you are wasting your time working with him when he clearly doesn't listen to your advice...

The thing about a problem: you can do it right going in or pay a whole lot of money correcting what you should have done right in the first place. Either way, you're going to spend the money. It's up to you how much of it and time you're willing to waste.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Very well said

If your drainage system fails to cope with your water runoff issues try doing what Gate City Foundation Drainage told you to do in the first place. 😂

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Haha funny how that logic works!

It looks like the gravel is too fine to allow good water flow. Needs to be 1 inch gravel for any reasonable water flow/ catchment and larger holes in the pipes to Maximise water flow. Cheers Steve Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

19:05 😂 you should mark the pipe and connector before applying the glue.

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

Some like to do that but I like the glue and smash method because the pipe lands where it wants to be 👍

10 hours later and I still haven't had the notification for this video. Edit: Got it. 12 hours late.

When Carson grows up and becomes a man, he’ll realise he should listen to experts and let them do the job they want to.

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

He's done exactly that with some drainage work at his house. He had me over there and followed my suggestions with fantastic results 👍

lol Hindsight 50/50

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

Most people don't notice, which is the joke 👍

No catch basin. 😂 you’d be correct Shawn

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

👍👍

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

I think Carson just wanted the CB to see if the darn thing actually works. I question this man's intellect on many levels.

I noticed you used fabric on the bottom of the drain but not on top before a final layer of gravel. Will silt wash into the system over time?

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

By not using fabric the flow will rinse the silt through and out of the french drain. You don't ever want to install a filter than is never changed.

@Matlockization

7 күн бұрын

I'm assuming there will be no silt in the first place because the gravel is blocking everything else from reaching the draining pipes.

🙏👍👑❤️

I’d built a berm myself. Making sure the water doesn’t get to the problem area is preferable to piping it out after it got there. But hey, not my house, not my say.

sounds like Carson just needed to do things right the first time and it would have saved him lot of time and work later.

I always thought of a french drain as being deeper. Were you able to go shallow because of the width?

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

A french drain needs to be as shallow as possible to achieve fall. You may be thinking of a dry well that someone called a french drain?

Some have lab inspectors, first time we see your duct inspectors. Quack quack

Physics definitely will tell if it slopes into the building, water will run into the building. Simple Math!!

Its hindsight is 20 20

Did the two 6" pipes tying into the catch basin have perforations to accept the water?

The geese are looking for worms

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

They sure are!

Seems Carson prefers to bodge once, fix twice. A lesson still not learnt by him

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

He's come a long way. He did some drainage work at his place and now he's building his new house with drainage in mind. 👍

@mrakiinapurpletrackie9697

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD I give it a year before LITERAL cracks appear

How much extra money would it have actually cost for the extra fittings and the correct drain basin placing?

Brother, if someone experienced is going to install a free drainage system for me, labor wise, I'm taking their advice!

@GCFD

7 күн бұрын

Great point Barry!

He didnt wanna spend money on fittings from 4 to 8in pipe. I mean how much would it have cost? He bought the catch basin

@GCFD

8 күн бұрын

I know Jacob. Those 8x8x4 wyes were $180 each so that was tough to swallow when he though we could just run the pipe into the catch basin.

@ryanwaltos2206

8 күн бұрын

@@GCFD you will get to make another video in a year, fixing the problems created by this decision...

Never time or money to do it right but always time and money to do it over