Installing a Complete Multiroom HDMI Distribution System - OREI UHD48-EX230-K

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In this video we install a multiroom HDMI distribution system to allow me to distribute all of my HDMI devices to all of my TVs over my existing CAT6 cable at full 4K resolution with HDR support. This system also incorporates matrix switching allowing all sources to be displayed on different TVs simultaneously and IP control allowing me to integrate the system with my Node-RED and Home Assistant based smart home system.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:52 - Hardware Introduction
05:25 - What comes in the box?
08:51 - Hardware Tour
10:48 - Not HDMI over Ethernet!
14:34 - What about HDBaseT?
17:55 - IR Matrix Distribution
20:58 - Receiver Hardware
22:36 - Installation Plan
32:36 - Cable Patching
35:17 - Installation Complete
41:07 - Demonstration - Living Room
43:24 - Demonstration - Bedroom
45:25 - In-Wall Touchscreen Integration
47:20 - Demonstration - Office
49:46 - Demonstration - Kitchen
55:32 - Network Control & Smart Home Integration
58:41 - Conclusion
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  • @camerongray1515
    @camerongray15158 ай бұрын

    Buy the OREI UHD48-EX230-K on Amazon (Affiliate): geni.us/fShl8

  • @Caddy666

    @Caddy666

    7 ай бұрын

    just wondering why the ps4 and 5 at the same time? digital only ps5?

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    The PlayStations are my partner's so I don't really know - think there's something that only runs on the PS4 or maybe some old game saves that can't transfer across? My own PlayStation experience ends with the PS2 back when transferring a game save involved moving a memory card!

  • @bryanchester5158

    @bryanchester5158

    7 ай бұрын

    @@camerongray1515 Great video. I just picked up a similar hdmi/Cat6 distribution hub myself. Would you consider sharing your node-red flow?

  • @ServiusTheBear

    @ServiusTheBear

    7 ай бұрын

    For a newbie to this it seems really alot.

  • @Snoobie1271

    @Snoobie1271

    6 ай бұрын

    Would this work with cat5 as well?

  • @tramcrazy
    @tramcrazy7 ай бұрын

    Would love to see a full home automation system tour as it is currently, showing how everything works and talks to each other. I’m also curious about the way you’re using node red and home assistant! It’s been cool to see the home automation get better and better almost every week! 😊

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    This is definitely something I'd like to do now that I'm doing a fair bit more home automation stuff and the system is finally getting a bit more "polished" - I have a few more things to finish off first but will hopefully get around to it at some point early next year.

  • @DJBlu2003
    @DJBlu20037 ай бұрын

    People always laugh when I send 2 cables down each route but this is the reason why, redundancy and future use. Great video, can't wait for the 8k matrix to come down in price as 4k 120hz is needed in this house.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I've never really understood why people would only run one cable to each point - the cost of cable is minuscule compared to the time it would take to run an extra cable in after the fact once the walls and ceilings are all patched and decorated! I even have things like a couple of CAT6 cables sitting in the walls behind light switches from when I was doing some lighting upgrades - I already had access opened up to get new cables down to the light switch so decided to run some CAT6 in while I could. I'm not using it currently but it could be an absolute godsend if I ever wanted to install some sort of PoE wall control panel.etc.

  • @ImTotallyTechy

    @ImTotallyTechy

    6 ай бұрын

    Who's laughed at you for that

  • @TheHenmistro

    @TheHenmistro

    6 ай бұрын

    No one laughed at you for that... It's standard practice

  • @DJBlu2003

    @DJBlu2003

    6 ай бұрын

    @TheHenmistro So all those data centres have 1000s of redundant ethernet cables? Everyday is a school day.

  • @TheHenmistro

    @TheHenmistro

    6 ай бұрын

    @@DJBlu2003 yes their are desperate railways for redundant connections :) when laying cable it's a cheaper cost to lay 2 cables because the contractor wouldn't charge extra and only for the extra material. If you have them come out again the call out fee and installation fee is many many more times expensive then the material.

  • @Jmcinally94
    @Jmcinally947 ай бұрын

    The thing I admire is the consistency, this system looks solid, no random out of sync power/HDMI source issues, which will make is simple for all end users. The wall touchscreens also add to the user friendliness. Really excited to see what you plan to do with the remotes moving forward. I have a Harmony remote that I love, but is getting a bit long in the tooth now, as it cant support newer devices without fiddly work arounds.

  • @jaddofficial

    @jaddofficial

    7 ай бұрын

    I too have harmony remotes, and i guess i would place the hub near the box (where ever that is ). Because the system has IR blasters it should send the ir over the cat6, or RF from the remote to the hub and send the commands almost straight to the devices. I thing i would have at least 2 hubs near the box😂 and so IR blasters would not be needed imho...

  • @rayantooke1819
    @rayantooke18197 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video! This is almost exactly the end goal for my dream home setup! Nice to see a super well explained, extensive video on a realistic, practical ultimate dream home setup that doesn't use unnecessarily enterprise gear! Top job!

  • @joshgoble
    @joshgoble7 ай бұрын

    Amazing explanation of the product, what it does and doesn’t do. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this.

  • @Ball2point
    @Ball2point7 ай бұрын

    Excellently explained, just what i was looking for you. Thank you for producing this, very well done!

  • @HeydeMoura
    @HeydeMoura7 ай бұрын

    I can't count how many great insights for my home automation this video gave me! Thank you so much!

  • @jim9520
    @jim95207 ай бұрын

    Cameron what an excellent video. Thank you so much. I am still learning about all of this tech knowledge and I love it. Please keep up the great work.

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos7 ай бұрын

    Good video Cameron !! I use these products for the last 5 years and never EVER have issues with them !!

  • @IndigoVikingTV
    @IndigoVikingTVАй бұрын

    This seems like just the solution I was looking for to move my PC out of my office. My PC gets my office so hot during the summer months. I can put my PC in the basement and just run the display through this, so cool.

  • @itsthegoodstuff
    @itsthegoodstuff4 ай бұрын

    Bravo. Great level of detail. Good work. May you enjoy it for years to come.

  • @ZachTRice
    @ZachTRice7 ай бұрын

    The power saving setup is really nice. Great video!

  • @jakecrowley6
    @jakecrowley67 ай бұрын

    I would really like to see how you created that cool UI for your in-wall touch screen. I currently am using an old android tablet but it doesn't look nearly as sleek at that UI you've got.

  • @rrassoc
    @rrassoc7 ай бұрын

    I'm glad to see the box is compatible with Cat5e cables, given that's what my builder installed throughout my house. I currently only have one 4k tv, so this may fit the bill.

  • @FindLiberty
    @FindLiberty7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the great review of your setup - full matrix is the way to go for HDMI over CAT6. *NICE*

  • @GeoffSeeley
    @GeoffSeeley7 ай бұрын

    Slick device! Great implementation and presentation! Subscribed.

  • @JesMarwaha
    @JesMarwaha6 ай бұрын

    great set up and walkthrough. really clever piece of kit

  • @sergioLombrico
    @sergioLombrico7 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for such a great video! So useful and well explained!

  • @kevinhughes9801
    @kevinhughes98017 ай бұрын

    Great setup only ever seen ip ones didn’t realise do cat cable only versions. Thanks for sharing such detail very helpful

  • @Pici3k
    @Pici3k6 ай бұрын

    This blows my mind with the level of integration :)

  • @juandiegogonzalez4552
    @juandiegogonzalez45522 ай бұрын

    How do you play ps4-ps5 from another room which has not the PS nearby?

  • @Daeron_84
    @Daeron_845 ай бұрын

    Really nicely done! I was just wondering (and maybe I missed a part in the video...) how do you handle ps4 / ps5 controllers across various rooms?

  • @immersiveaudionft2203
    @immersiveaudionft22037 ай бұрын

    Nice job. Love the clean look no wires where they should not be.

  • @mistakek
    @mistakek7 ай бұрын

    This is great. I would love a home assistant setup video, or better yet, a full home automation setup you have.

  • @KS-wr8ub
    @KS-wr8ub7 ай бұрын

    Really well thought out and executed video mate! 🙌 Thanks for doing it! How would you go about gaming on say for example the PS5 on the bedroom TV?

  • @charlied8456
    @charlied84567 ай бұрын

    Just something to note, I recently saw a video of someone who tore down a PS5 because of overheating issues. It was stood upright, and the liquid metal acting as the thermal paste for the APU had pooled to the bottom creating a hot spot in the middle where there was no longer any liquid metal. The person in the video recommended having the console horizontal, despite Sony saying it can be stood vertical, to avoid future issues

  • @jeff-w
    @jeff-w5 ай бұрын

    If you think you're gonna chill in front of the tv with this guy, think again. You'll be spending you time on the whole home tour learning how to turn the tv on. In all seriousness, well done.

  • @gregrich91
    @gregrich917 ай бұрын

    this is some cool tech! I have no need for it, but it's cool! thanks for all the details

  • @studiokadaver
    @studiokadaver7 ай бұрын

    Let alone is this HDMI system awesome. Those little touch panels on your wall are killer

  • @blizz786
    @blizz7867 ай бұрын

    Great product ! Thank you for the video.

  • @spinkey4842
    @spinkey48424 ай бұрын

    i want this in my life... this device is friggin awesome!!!! i see why a lot of people just don't have the mental capacity to understand how it works.

  • @brookerobertson2951
    @brookerobertson29517 ай бұрын

    If your girlfriend wants to watch Netflix in the bedroom when you’re at work. That’ll be a 15 minute conversation minimum 😂😂😂

  • @shadow-wulf
    @shadow-wulf7 ай бұрын

    So i gave you a thumbs up as soon as i saw the note about skipping ahead, i didn't skip, but love that you offer it before you ask for the usual request that comes at the beginning of most videos these days. Like all I've seen of the usual persons video is their splash screen and their intro, and in supposed to like that? Nope! But this started great, and I'm looking forward to the rest of you video

  • @Holdeenio
    @Holdeenio7 ай бұрын

    Interesting system and a clear video 👌🏼

  • @DGroenenberg
    @DGroenenberg5 күн бұрын

    Finally I found a video with what i want and more.. thank you

  • @jacobmartin112
    @jacobmartin1125 ай бұрын

    So in theory I could rack mount my computers and game consoles and use this thing to use them on any display in my house! That’s a game changer!

  • @emiliabunko4518
    @emiliabunko45185 ай бұрын

    you have no idea how grateful I am for youtube's 0.75 speed ;-) great vid btw

  • @DmitriyKhazansky

    @DmitriyKhazansky

    3 ай бұрын

    Lolz as I watch at 1.5x

  • @emiliabunko4518

    @emiliabunko4518

    3 ай бұрын

    @@DmitriyKhazansky nice to meet you mr Flash Gordon "D

  • @Gadget-Guys
    @Gadget-Guys5 ай бұрын

    I appreciate the hard work and time that went into making this video. Could you tell me where the wall plates you showed us came from and what brand they are?

  • @painemurray
    @painemurray7 ай бұрын

    I would love to see a more indept video, especially with the home assistant configuration.

  • @ajama1335
    @ajama13357 ай бұрын

    Damn what a setup.

  • @kevinsono
    @kevinsono6 ай бұрын

    How do you control your PS4 with your PS4 controller while not being in the same room as the PS4???

  • @jaydevchhagan

    @jaydevchhagan

    4 ай бұрын

    Bluetooth?

  • @kevinsono

    @kevinsono

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jaydevchhagan I'm well aware that the controller and console communicate via Bluetooth (it has a max communication distance of 33 feet and walls in between can prevent communication all together depending on what walls he has in the house drywall, brick ect ...but in his video his ps4 is a significant distance away from his controller when he's in all the different rooms of the house. So how does he remedy that problem.

  • @kumarp3074

    @kumarp3074

    Ай бұрын

    @@kevinsono Honestly the entire setup seems overly complicated and does not give much in terms of functionality.

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff6 ай бұрын

    Wonderful. With ESPresence, could you attach an input to you (rather than a TV) in Node-Red (or whatever) and have it switch the output to wherever you are at any given point?

  • @carloscolocho2625
    @carloscolocho26257 ай бұрын

    Great video, i've been looking for a product like these for months. They already offer a 2x2 HDMI 2.1 compliant matrix, hopefully they'll offer more options similar to the one you have soon.

  • @viljosavolainen2286

    @viljosavolainen2286

    3 ай бұрын

    This product is only hdmi 2.0. It can achieve only 4k 60 hz. There arent currently any hdmi 2.1 cabable broducts out there. Atleast reasonable priced. Best u can do is using hdmi 2.1 extender with 10+15 meter hdmi cables and separate cable for usb if needed.

  • @nrgonline
    @nrgonline7 ай бұрын

    It’s called hdmi matrix. Control4 does that. Also this is just a network hdmi extender switcher. We use Extron in our control that does this with touch screen control. Your local college does the same in their classroom. Cresteon does the same.

  • @buchanandavid
    @buchanandavidАй бұрын

    wow simply amazing job well done. I must ask though regarding the PS4/5 how are you sharing the play controllers when the source device is in another room and the controller signals are not over cat?

  • @banditfet
    @banditfet3 ай бұрын

    Hello Cameron, thanks for the awesome video! Been looking at this matrix for a while now and haven't got one yet as there isn't really an in depth review like this anywhere but this is really good, will you be doing a video on the home assistant intergration at any point? would be excellent if you are going to!

  • @studiokadaver
    @studiokadaver7 ай бұрын

    I’m actually looking at doing something similar although I don’t need multi room just one other room so I only need to run one line but I use plenty of this brands equipment they make a lot of good stuff I use one of their one by four HDMI splitters. I also use their HDMI audio extractor.

  • @michaelcartagena2443
    @michaelcartagena244337 минут бұрын

    Just saying for a matrix ,make sure all display can do what the other can do. It's so much easier and less of a headache.

  • @zephaone
    @zephaone7 ай бұрын

    Subscribing for the teardown. Haven't seen the insides of any of these things. Are you sure it isn't using HDBaseT? Been comparing these kinds of devices for a while and Orei mention it in their marketing. Maybe it's only the brand new products from them, or maybe it's a licensing thing 🤷 Anyway, thanks for the detailed vid. Helping me loads figuring out what to buy.

  • @tschubb1992
    @tschubb19927 ай бұрын

    I made some IR send/receiver devices with just a D1 Mini (ESP8266) dead cheap.

  • @ShawnAng
    @ShawnAng7 ай бұрын

    very detailed review of the device! something I'm also looking to purchase. I'd love to see how you integrate this device to your smart home. by the way, when you say this device is loud, how loud does it actually measure?

  • @karthiktulasi7474
    @karthiktulasi74745 күн бұрын

    Glorious setup. One thing I want to understand, uf I don’t have the custom IR blaster or ability to customize the remotes, how would we switch inputs on the Matrix from a different floor?

  • @BusaBarnabas
    @BusaBarnabas4 ай бұрын

    how do you send ps4/ps5 controller signal through this same cable?

  • @ericpajela5203
    @ericpajela52037 ай бұрын

    my i ask how can you play the ps4 and ps5 in your bedroom or office? can the it bluster receive the controller signal to the game?

  • @damirlakos6776
    @damirlakos67767 ай бұрын

    can you male video how you use “any” remote or wall panel to change input on matrix

  • @jaddofficial
    @jaddofficial7 ай бұрын

    Wow! Amazing🤩🤩🤩

  • @user-br9zv6lb5h
    @user-br9zv6lb5hКүн бұрын

    Very well explained. Particularly the pitfalls. So effectively if you want to install the HDMI version, you would need to have separate point to point cables in a star configuration for each input or output. You could, for example, have the Freeview Box and the CD Hard Drive Recorder. Would each room be able to select its own TV channel or music track? Am i understanding correctly?

  • @garytill
    @garytill7 ай бұрын

    I did a similar thing at home, I used a HDanywhere MhubS hdmi 2.0 8x8 matrix to have 8 sources in a rack distributed to 8 rooms with hdmi 2.0, 4k60, hdr dolby vision etc.. it also does all the ir management and integrates with homeassistant and some smart universal remotes. It's pretty great but my god the pain of getting the cat6a runs to work reliably. Reterminating and pulling new lines because they were so flaky. After almost 2 years of suffering though, it works fantastically, any source in any room, downscaling when needed etc.. Only weakness that is unsolved is game console controllers nobody has a good solution to extend those so I'm just distributing 4x nvidia shields (3 users plus guest), 2 tv tuners, 1 pay TV tuner and one pc for a Dashboard feed. So any user can move from room to room and have their source with their accounts follow them wherever they want.

  • @mitchelle245

    @mitchelle245

    7 ай бұрын

    Are these connections direct cat6 or can they send the signal over a switch? I’m looking for something were I can send video over a network.

  • @garytill

    @garytill

    7 ай бұрын

    @mitchelle245 these do require direct connections, they are not ip devices. To send over a network you need a format called AVoIP (rather than HDbaseT) which will allow distribution through a network switch, they do compress the stream more than these, but are very flexible for installs with more than 4 or 8 zones

  • @marksapollo
    @marksapollo7 ай бұрын

    Blimey Cameron, with the way you cut holes in the walls and ceilings I really didn’t think I you lived with anyone 😂. That’s a clever device though, definitely solves a problem as you can’t really run HDMI cables, plus are they even fire resistant etc to the required standards like Ethernet cables can be? Good video.

  • @Arend48
    @Arend484 ай бұрын

    Will this Orei matrix take 1080i and/or 720P on the inputs. I’ve got a couple of sat receivers that only put out 1080i or 720P for most channels.

  • @noext7001
    @noext7001Ай бұрын

    best random youtube video ever

  • @pugmandan215
    @pugmandan2155 ай бұрын

    Hi Cameron, are you willing to share your lovelace configuration for your touchscreens please?

  • @goodcat1982
    @goodcat19824 ай бұрын

    I have a question. Great video but @43:44 you didn't say if you could use the Sky remote to toggle through channels etc?

  • @frenchonionsoup8789
    @frenchonionsoup87893 ай бұрын

    It would be great if that unit had the capability to recognize those ir button presses and use them to trigger input changes and hdmi cc so you could do most of that control without having a home server

  • @too2buff
    @too2buff5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, I picked up the device and connected it to my patch panel and I'm not getting any signal or activity on the receiver side. Any suggestions? I tried different Cat6 cables and still nothing

  • @biffhenderson1144
    @biffhenderson11446 ай бұрын

    I'm transmitting 4k over cat 5 HDBaseT for about 40 feet without any issues. House was built with cat 5 in walls.

  • @chriss993
    @chriss9935 ай бұрын

    What are you using to make those labels on the cables? And the others? They look good.

  • @chrisott2
    @chrisott27 ай бұрын

    Great video. The one thing I didn’t quite get is how are you controlling the input devices from the other rooms? Are you able to control them with that rooms tv remote?

  • @jerenbrowning3343

    @jerenbrowning3343

    4 ай бұрын

    Same question. Do the remote and game controllers work over the IR setup you have?

  • @LrdLnitari
    @LrdLnitari7 ай бұрын

    I just watched this and I'm really intrigued as I wanted to access my game systems anywhere in the house. But the one thing I wasn't sure about was the reach of the controllers to the systems. I have a multi level house and all my systems in my basement. I also have a lot of my systems connected to a 8 port HDMI auto switcher. Would love for this to work for my setup.

  • @chriswatt2702

    @chriswatt2702

    6 ай бұрын

    Not sure if it would be suitable for this. There exists the possibility of lag with the remote screens. Moreover I assume this sharing is for the “beer run” to stay in touch with the goals in FIFA on either Sky or PS5.

  • @LrdLnitari

    @LrdLnitari

    6 ай бұрын

    @@chriswatt2702 yeah I would t be playing FIFA but it was an interesting concept. Might work if I had one or two systems to use, but I have at least 6 modern systems that could be accessible on HDMI. Then there's the other 12 retro systems. But I guess it's ok. Thanks for the response.

  • @paula1493
    @paula14937 ай бұрын

    Another fantastic video!!! Also I like that we get to know a little more about your personal life. I did not know you had a partner. I know from personal experience that it can be hard to find someone to put up with my technology habit.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    This is why I'm pretty particular around having smart home stuff that is relatively unobtrusive - physical light switches, AV system controlled by regular remotes.etc. That said, it does make for interesting tech support calls when I'm out and "the light switches have stopped working and I can't turn the lights off and need to go to bed"

  • @user-iq9lp8xt6q
    @user-iq9lp8xt6q7 ай бұрын

    Great video. How did you program the tv remotes to control the matrix? Do you have a instructions for all remote brand?

  • @112Haribo

    @112Haribo

    7 ай бұрын

    The magic for that happens in Node Red or Home Assistant. The Ir signal is picked up by the receiver connected to the hdmi over Cat extender, and sent to the matrix switcher. There, an Ir emitter sends the signal to his Ir puck where the signal is fed into his home automation system.

  • @nalvareza
    @nalvareza7 ай бұрын

    How did you program the controllers to switch the inputs?, also how did you jetwork manage the tvs?

  • @xer0334
    @xer03347 ай бұрын

    Have you seen the video of the PS5s that suffer from the liquid metal on the processor pooling at the bottom when you have the console standing upright? Maybe you aren't bothered but its worth thinking about for the longevity of the console

  • @id104335409
    @id1043354092 ай бұрын

    When you think your setup is too complicated - just watch this video. It is a whole different category.

  • @ellingworth92
    @ellingworth922 ай бұрын

    Excellent Video. Please keep these coming. I want to do this but 4 rooms and 4 inputs are are bit over kill. Anyone know of a 2x2 version of this? Doesn't look like Orei make one.

  • @yeasturianin
    @yeasturianin6 ай бұрын

    Have you though about use presence detection to make the screen follow you, I mean. You are watching sky on living room but you go without turning off to the kitchen and hass turn on the tv on the kitchen and show you what you are viewing in the living room or where ever you were. This seems interesting while you are watching a cooking recipe, live streaming or whatever in your computer. You could do this to go to the bathroom without being worry about loose something on the tv 🤣 I would do that if I had this system, seems very cool. This wasn't possible a few years ago at that price when I have looked about it :) Nice job!! Congrats!

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    6 ай бұрын

    I definitely could although if I had presence detection I'd likely only really use it to turn off TVs in unoccupied rooms. I generally limit my use of completely interaction free automations and prefer to manually control things through remote controls, wall switches and touchscreen panels. Automations look cool, but they can end up being a pain if they end up being triggered when you don't want them. As an example, if I set something up to automatically turn on and off displays based on room occupancy I could forsee an issue where, for example, my partner could be sleeping in the bedroom while I'm up late watching something in the living room but realise I've left my phone in the bedroom and go in to get it, the last thing I want is the TV turning itself on! Sure you could then amend the automation where the bedroom TV only turns on during the day, but then you'll hit that one day where someone is ill and goes to bed during the day only to find the TV keeps turning itself on. With my setup, if I were to walk into the bedroom and want to switch on Sky, it's just a couple of button presses on the touch screen located next to the door.

  • @yeasturianin

    @yeasturianin

    6 ай бұрын

    @@camerongray1515 Yes, some automations can be a pain I agree but you could have a shortcut to activate the automation and only use it when you want until all tvs are turned off. Well I like this kind of crazy automations just for fun (about creating them) 🤣🤣

  • @richardmanford4730

    @richardmanford4730

    4 ай бұрын

    So how do you control the various equipment from the remote locations? You only showed how the matrix was controlled? Thanks

  • @yeasturianin

    @yeasturianin

    4 ай бұрын

    He showed. All are controlled through infrared. @@richardmanford4730

  • @foxtrotluna
    @foxtrotluna7 ай бұрын

    A thing I’ve been considering is having a 4K capture card and small board computer to stream my inputs over the network. I don’t need to worry about latency or quality too much though. Did you look at solutions like that? “4K” capture cards are very cheap now!

  • @pineappleroad

    @pineappleroad

    7 ай бұрын

    One problem with that approach is HDCP

  • @foxtrotluna

    @foxtrotluna

    7 ай бұрын

    @@pineappleroad Most cheap hdmi splitters will strip that out. It’s naughty but surprising how many do it anyway!

  • @syeef
    @syeef7 ай бұрын

    brilliant explanation - super clean setup, great work! What's the brand that you're using for the network cables? Struggling to find a good supplier in the UK since Monoprice left…

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! For slim cables in particular I use these: patchsavesolutions.com/773-slim-small-diameter-pvc-snagless-patch-cables which are pretty good value. Fs.com also do them but their stock/shipping times aren't ideal if I need them quickly.

  • @mins1975
    @mins19757 ай бұрын

    How to program/remap remote to switch the matrix input?

  • @Mehmehx
    @Mehmehx7 ай бұрын

    How does gaming controls work from different rooms? Bad signal?

  • @midoman6659
    @midoman6659Ай бұрын

    I’m planning on getting this for the main reason NVR showing on 3 tvs. Maybe a device for controlling the NVR via mouse(usb)

  • @magladney
    @magladney7 ай бұрын

    I keep seeing that a CAT5 and CAT6 cable is to be used, I have CAT8 thru out my house, So can CAT8 cable be used

  • @Ror0c
    @Ror0c7 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. I'm looking for a similar solution but for both USB & HDMI so that I rack the games consoles away in a cupboard but still play them from any TV.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    You'd definitely be able to do that, not with this system but you can get HDBaseT transceiver sets that can handle USB alongside HDMI although you'd also need to figure out a way to switch the USB connection between your devices (that said, you can get USB switch boxes with IR remotes so that could be an option). There are also USB over IP systems that I want to take a look at at some point. With this current setup, I'm fortunate enough that the PS5 controller has such a good range that it seems to work pretty reliably from a couple of rooms away as does the Sky remote, although the Apple TV remote's range is absolutely dreadful!

  • @Ror0c

    @Ror0c

    7 ай бұрын

    Last time I looked into this was many years ago and it sounds like the technology has caught up now. I previously tried with KVM type solutions but found that they were usually specifically for keyboard / mouse and not generic USB. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do some digging about HDBaseT. My wife will be happy that all the "ugly consoles" will be put away out of sight!

  • @iand5600
    @iand56006 ай бұрын

    Another way to explain the Cat6/Eth confusion. It's using the CAT6 cable in a electrically completely custom/proprietary way for video directly and not networking.

  • @romanrm1
    @romanrm17 ай бұрын

    I had a 4K over RJ45 extender kit, in 4K it was ruining fine text in GUI with some smearing, as such unusable for desktop use. Switched to an optical HDMI cable for the same run.

  • @hugevibez

    @hugevibez

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah optical is the way to go since you can also run multiple things over the same wire (more HDMI cables, USB, etc) through multimode, though it gets expensive quickly. Beware theres a lot of people selling really overpriced "fiber HDMI" cables, its much more economical to make your own if you can find the right optical converter for your needs.

  • @romanrm1

    @romanrm1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@hugevibez yes I got one of those pre-made ones. From Aliexpress they aren't that overpriced. And I doubt I could find a HDMI to optical and optical to HDMI converter set that would end up cheaper for a 15m distance.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    While fibre iself is cheaper than an active optical HDMI cable, the converters definitely aren't - not sure how active optical HDMI cables are overpriced. The reason active optical cables are cheaper is that they tend to use multiple fibres in parallel for data transmission so that each fibre is carrying a lower data rate and then also use copper wires for things like CEC and ARC. On the other hand, converters to send HDMI over a single fibre have to send the full bandwidth signal down a single fibre along with CEC/ARC in the opposite direction. I've also seen the "LightOptics" HDMI to MPO fibre products which look interesting - they use a special multicore fibre cable with an MPO connector and are much lower cost than a generic HDMI over fibre converter but still have the advantage of being potentially upgradable unlike a complete active optical cable.

  • @victorstegaru4340
    @victorstegaru43403 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! Thanks! Wondering if this would work with a PC. I have a pretty noisy PC which I would happily move close to my rack. Not sure how would I fix the “keyboard/mouse” variable this case 😊

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    3 ай бұрын

    It definitely would work for video from a PC, but for a PC you'd probably be better looking at an HDBaseT kit that can also carry USB. Probably wouldn't get the matrix switching functionality of this system, but you'd be able to send HDMI and USB (albeit USB 2.0) over a single CAT6 cable.

  • @thomasgatenby8994
    @thomasgatenby89947 ай бұрын

    Do you notice any increased latency on the gaming devices?

  • @galsherp6173
    @galsherp61736 күн бұрын

    im searching for something like this, but for 4k 120fps but i think best is thunderbolt bc it can usb hdmi and network?!

  • @MariosKimonos
    @MariosKimonosАй бұрын

    great video, the only part I don't understand is with the ps4, 5 . I am guessing you want to play games, how do the controllers work from that far away?

  • @skyflyer808
    @skyflyer8087 ай бұрын

    It is possible to route the HDMI over CAT signals over the regular network if you provide each cable a seperate vlan (virtually the same as a direct cable)

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    Still wouldn't work - this can work if you're using HDMI over IP systems that send broadcast packets to all other devices on the network (using a VLAN is a good way to keep traffic down on these systems) but it will not work with a regular HDMI over CAT or HDBaseT system - a switch is expecting ethernet frames and links at standard data rates (10/100/1000.etc) not whatever these devices will be using to communicate. While a dedicated VLAN can act like a cable from a network perspective, it still means that the packets are passing through a switch with the switch performing various switching functions, it doesn't just electrically connect ports together.

  • @DmitriyKhazansky
    @DmitriyKhazansky3 ай бұрын

    I’d love to see more info on those android touchscreens and how you like them. Especially how they work in a bedroom setting in terms of not adding ambient light into the room room during the night.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    3 ай бұрын

    I made a dedicated video about them here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHiLy7NrqLHZhMo.html. For bedroom use, the displays only remain on when the lights in the room are turned on. They also have a proximity sensor so they turn on automatically whenever you walk past and if the lights in the room are off, they will turn off again after a time period has elapsed.

  • @AeroplaneJamie
    @AeroplaneJamie7 ай бұрын

    Great vid, got a few questions How well does it cope with multichannel audio (DD, Atmos, Multichannel PCM) Why didn't you use the zone 2 output on the receiver instead of running each device through the matrix? Isn't there potential for loss and issues doing this? I am very interested in what you are going to use for a remote control! Since Logitech discontinued harmony I can't find a decent competitor that has all the features.

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    Multichannel audio is something I need to test out more - I've found a couple of sources where outputting Dolby audio won't give sound on my old office TV but the bedroom TV will happily receive Dolby without issue and likewise the office TV has worked fine with other Dolby sources. Generally though the stuff I'm watching in other rooms, especially my office is just Stereo so it's fine. As a solution I could probably set up something to alter the EDID presented to the device based on which TVs are outputting. Or, in the case of my office TV, I could get an HDMI audio extractor that's capable of extracting an analogue stereo signal from a Dolby HDMI feed and then feed that analogue signal into the TV's 3.5mm input (that it has for connecting PCs since it's from an era where DVI was commonplace). Bit of a hack but it would work! I suppose the most universal solution could end up being to use Dolby compatible soundbars for TVs that can't handle the Dolby signals natively since they're getting pretty inexpensive nowadays. As for using the Zone 2 output - on my receiver the Zone 2 output is audio only, the second HDMI output just replicates the main zone so I'd have needed a more expensive receiver to do this. This would also mean that I'd be able to watch one source in the living room, and one source "everywhere else" btu wouldn't allow me to say watch one thing in the office, and another thing in the bedrooms since they would both be being fed from the same Zone 2 output. Not too worried about the reliability - it does introduce another point of failure, but at least for my living room TV, it's not re-encoding the signal or anything so won't alter the quality in any way. As for the remotes, I'll be using the Sofabaton U1 and U2 remotes - not remotely comparable to the Harmony (RIP) - they're more just universal remotes with a nice screen for selecting a device using a friendly name and with decent button remapping capability and basic macro type functionality. They absolutely aren't perfect, but, for the price, they'll do for now while I continue to keep my eye out for a true Harmony replacement!

  • @AeroplaneJamie

    @AeroplaneJamie

    7 ай бұрын

    @@camerongray1515 Thanks for the response! I was wondering with the audio, does it pass through all formats to the receiver? I would be worried about losing multichannel and Atmos content with it. Take it there's been no issues with HDCP? I looked at the Sofabaton but they seem kinda limited, no dock which is a mad omission, ugly UI, and I don't know how much a company like that will be around in the future to offer servers (if it is needed). What I would ideally want is a remote control that I can just connect with Zigbee and use home assistant, but sadly it looks like no one makes anything like that. I will be sticking with my Harmony as long as I can.

  • @eliluong
    @eliluong6 ай бұрын

    how did you link remote commands to node-red?

  • @DannyBokma
    @DannyBokma5 ай бұрын

    Is there a length limitation on the cable?

  • @oldtechnobodycaresabout
    @oldtechnobodycaresabout7 ай бұрын

    This would be cool if you could use the aerial wiring as most houses have wiring for antenna which are now hardly even use and it could be a good way to make use of it

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    HDMI over Coax systems exist but they'd still expect a point to point link which isn't how coax is usually wired. Another option is to use DVB-T modulators which will encode an HDMI input into a DVB-T TV channel you could then tune in on each TV. You could even chain multiple to send different sources over the same cables and select the input by picking a channel on the TV. I saw an interesting system like this in a bar a while back - All sources into DVB-T modulators connected to all the TVs around the place. They could turn easily switch what each TV was showing (Live TV, Advertisement slideshow.etc) by just changing the channel on each TV. The downside is that quality is a bit limited and you can be looking at a second or two of latency which makes it unsuitable for gaming or even could make controlling a set top box feel sluggish.

  • @FindLiberty

    @FindLiberty

    7 ай бұрын

    Not recommended. My ancient HDTV modulation hardware has always been sluggish; boot up sequence is tricky or audio gets lost requiring a restart. Resolution is only 1080 DVD quality and the A/V timing delay is annoying if you're learning to lip read or hearing the live unprocessed sound for the source that's located in another room. It's time to retire (my) 35 year old NTSC RG6 75 Ohm cables and CAT3/CAT5/CAT6 hay-wiring schemes and just move on to optical or WiFi that also offers much better *household lightning protection.* _I've been smacked TWICE._ Pre-"wiring" with empty plastic sprinkler pipe raceways makes any future conversion still possible for this old fart, but I've become way too lazy to even make use of it now. Still might need it though for near-future "in-wall" O2 Concentrator tubing to reduce trip hazard assuming I'm still ambulatory. LOL

  • @Call_Me_David

    @Call_Me_David

    7 ай бұрын

    Is it common in the UK for most houses to have aerial antenna's for TV?

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    In the UK, free-to-air TV over an antenna is the "normal" way of receiving broadcast TV with cable and satellite generally used for people who want "premium" channels such as movies and live sports. Over the air you can usually get 80+ digital channels including several in HD. Houses will usually have some form of coax aerial wiring installed and flats (apartments) usually have a communal aerial on the roof that is also distributed throughout the building, sometimes there will also be a communal satellite dish to avoid people needing to install their own and making the building look unsightly.

  • @sjurursteinholm5368
    @sjurursteinholm53687 ай бұрын

    This was thorough and awesome 👌 how much latency is on the ps4/5? I am looking for matrix switches for gaming, but the latency isn’t listed anywhere

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    Latency is basically imperceivable to me although I'm not a gamer so I'm probably not as noticeable to me. These devices don't really perform any significant processing to the video and at a hardware level, doesn't contain any visible memory ICs which would be required if the device was "holding onto" frames to process them in some way.

  • @sjurursteinholm5368

    @sjurursteinholm5368

    7 ай бұрын

    @@camerongray1515 That's nice to know. 😁 Perhaps testing with a timesleuth lagtester won't be neccessary, have been considering this matrix.🙃

  • @paultech9385
    @paultech93857 ай бұрын

    I can’t wait until the AV industry drops the IR tech or at least bundles it into the HDMI data stream.

  • @mattB201
    @mattB2017 ай бұрын

    im looking to use this system does the sky remote work in any room through the ir reciver you put on the sky box and into the matrix ?

  • @camerongray1515

    @camerongray1515

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm using the Sky remote over bluetooth because the range is good enough to work from all rooms, but yes, you can use it over IR as well by switching the remote into IR mode. However, doing this will also disable the voice control function of the remote so if you plan on doing this you may be better off getting a secondary remote for use over IR and keep a remote that is set up for Bluetooth so that you can still use voice control when you are within range of the Sky box.

  • @samrbriggs
    @samrbriggsАй бұрын

    Great video and apologies for the noob question but if you're PS5 is in the living room, how do you play it in the bedroom? Same for Sky TV... do you use any remote or need another receiver?

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