Instagram Face, TikTok Reveals, And The Rise Of Cheap Cosmetic Procedures

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In this week's episode of Too Good To Be True, Ryan and Julia break down the exploding industry of cheap cosmetic procedures (whether inside or outside of the US), and the social media mania that fuels our obsession with looking perfect.
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  • @thebigoaktree8401
    @thebigoaktree8401 Жыл бұрын

    Frequenting Instagram is like hanging around a bad neighborhood. I was an Instagram early adopter (2010) when it was strictly photography based. It changed to “I, Me, and Mine” platform after FB purchased the app around 2016. Making it more and more difficult of its users to believe in the beauty that they were born with as being enough. I quit shortly after that.

  • @cleopatraonlyfans

    @cleopatraonlyfans

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, Instagram just makes me feel ugly, lonely, and bad about being disabled since I’m not out taking photos with everyone I know Even when I know some of the people in those photos are just straight up bad people

  • @lytaylor1204
    @lytaylor1204 Жыл бұрын

    I think a big part that was not mentioned in details enough on this podcast is how CareCredit works. CareCredit is basically just a credit card. You can use it for absolutely antyhing like a normal credit card is. But if you use it for a medical procedure (even for your pets), they give you a 0% APR for a certan amount of time, depending on how much you spent. But, what they don't make abundantly clear, is at the end of the term, if you haven't paid that balance off, they charge interest on the ENTIRE ORIGINAL balance, not just the amount you have left to pay. Let's say you charged $1000 for a procedure with a 12 months financing. You are diligent with your payment, but at the end of 12 months you somehow have a $10 balance left that you haven't paid. Well, next month, they will charge the card's normal APR on the entire $1000 original amount. Their normal APR is usually 22-27%. So now instead of only having $10 balance left to pay, you're now owing them about $250+. CareCredit and any furniture store credit card all use this tactic.

  • @IAmTheAnswerer

    @IAmTheAnswerer

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow. So predatory!

  • @Rosie-xm7ry

    @Rosie-xm7ry

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was looking into it to pay for my Invisalign, but in the end getting a regular credit card with an intro promo APR was better

  • @Iquey

    @Iquey

    Жыл бұрын

    That is fucked up math they use. Yikes!!!! Care card?! More like SCARE CARD.

  • @Samantha2209

    @Samantha2209

    Жыл бұрын

    HWHAT? 🤯 and this is normal?

  • @lytaylor1204

    @lytaylor1204

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Samantha2209 yup, this is a very common tactic. All of my furniture store credit cards (Ashley, Living Spaces) do this.

  • @CaliHinojosaVids
    @CaliHinojosaVids Жыл бұрын

    I’ve learned the less time I spend in social media spaces, the happier I am with my appearance and self esteem. (Comment made before finishing podcast)

  • @hijustine

    @hijustine

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m also shopping less!!

  • @firsttimecatparent

    @firsttimecatparent

    Жыл бұрын

    I am off social media and my problem is that I compare myself to real women as I walk to and from work. I wish I had the height, figure, clothes, and makeup application abilities of dozens of women I pass on the street

  • @mauve9266

    @mauve9266

    Жыл бұрын

    @@firsttimecatparent I’ve found this is a much more effective way to make myself feel bad. Online there are all these things I can tell myself to make me feel better, it could be surgery, it could be photoshopped, angles ect., but irl there’s a lot less u can say to console yourself tho some of those things may still be true.

  • @muoian
    @muoian Жыл бұрын

    The intersection of mlms and predatory cosmetic surgery is very real . I’ve seen a mommy mlm who sells makeup suddenly become a fitness influencer. It’s very odd but real

  • @AlexHider
    @AlexHider Жыл бұрын

    Can you guys maybe number the episodes on the thumbnail like Making it work or in the name? It would be helpful

  • @Lastings
    @Lastings Жыл бұрын

    Quick clarification. Veneers are thin sheets of material placed over the face of a tooth. A veneer prep shouldn't take off more than a millimeter of tooth material. Crowns will shave down the teeth to something approximately conical to accept a full coverage crown.

  • @kiterafrey

    @kiterafrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I was thinking this but not sure how to explain it. I have porcelain crowns one two and a veneer on another that just had some white filling under to enhance the appearance after being in an accident, but I wasn't sure how to explain the difference

  • @psychedelicspider4346
    @psychedelicspider4346 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel is always full of good tips, and the fact that you talk about the more emotional and psychological aspects of money and finances makes it more relatable (in a real, tangible sense, not in the corny one) 😭

  • @frankbatista.official

    @frankbatista.official

    Жыл бұрын

    That's totally true. 90% is the mindset that people have about money, it's not always easy to lose these bad money habits but I believe if a person knows his/her priorities and goals, it becomes way easier 😁

  • @genericplantlife
    @genericplantlife Жыл бұрын

    This is very early on in the podcast, but I feel like people need to realize that they have control over what appears in their instagram feed and explore page. The algorithm bases suggestions on whom you follow and what posts you view and interact with. For example, my feed and explore page are full of posts about cats, comic strips, and special needs advocacy groups because those are the accounts and posts I interacted with early on. You don't HAVE to be inundated with infuencer posts. I very very rarely see these beauty or lifestyle influencers pop up when I use instagram.

  • @bevalexander5897
    @bevalexander5897 Жыл бұрын

    I had a tummy tuck in Prague in 2005. A sort of concierge took care of all arrangements, from picking me up at the airport, supplied groceries at the apartment I stayed at (rent included in cost), surgery, and overnight stay at clinic. It cost 4000 euros, approx $6000 US, and I had great results.

  • @Iquey

    @Iquey

    Жыл бұрын

    Prague is probably good enough though. You just have to be very diligent about the clinic you head into, and what kinds of regulations surgeons are held to in those countries, especially for giving foreigners procedures.

  • @analicollari2108

    @analicollari2108

    Жыл бұрын

    Where??? Links please; help a girl out!

  • @bevalexander5897

    @bevalexander5897

    Жыл бұрын

    @@analicollari2108 Hey! My surgery was in 2005. I was already working in Europe and had been thinking about having a tummy tuck for awhile. I mentioned this to someone I was working with, and she told me about a clinic that specialized in “cosmetic surgery tourism”. They handled everything including flights, if I remember correctly. The service/clinic is called Beauty In Prague. The woman who I dealt with, (sorry can’t remember her name), made all the arrangements. They had apartments in the city for their clients pre and post op. She picked me up at the airport, drove me to my appointments, brought me groceries, and dropped me off at the airport. I believe I was there 6 nights. The dr preferred I stay a couple more days before flying, but I couldn’t get time off for work. The surgeon was fantastic, he spoke English. I had taken some pictures before I made the trip, and emailed them to the doctor. He looked them over and advised me on what procedure he thought would be best for me. The clinic was spotless and up to date. Everyone was really nice. I believe back then, it cost me about 4500 euros. I think exchange rate then put the cost at around $6200 American, still less than it would have cost me back home. I hope this helps. Sorry I can’t remember names.

  • @analicollari2108

    @analicollari2108

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bevalexander5897 no don’t apologize dear. You have been so kind and helpful; thank you for helping an internet stranger 💕

  • @bevalexander5897

    @bevalexander5897

    Жыл бұрын

    @@analicollari2108 If you make it to Prague, let me know how it goes. I forgot to tell you the most important part: The surgery turned out great!

  • @ChloeTheePayne
    @ChloeTheePayne Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU for showcasing how the history of plastic surgery/injections/body modifications has such a direct link to trans people and their lack of access to safe healthcare. as a nonbinary person (who's currently navigating the long and winding road towards top surgery) i appreciate all of your hard work!

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    Why do transpeople not have access to safe healthcare???

  • @ChloeTheePayne

    @ChloeTheePayne

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CordeliaWagner oh gosh, that's a big question that would be tough for me to delve into on this quick lunch break at my dayjob but you can go ahead and do a quick google news search for "trans healthcare" to review just some of the headlines about the discrimination and laws that currently make medical care tough for trans people, and then of course there's a ton of history about how much more dangerous it's been in the past too. thanks for asking, and happy researching to you!

  • @sournectarine8343

    @sournectarine8343

    Жыл бұрын

    but then they end it with "self acceptance is free, non of this is necessary for anyone, actually" :/

  • @artchick07

    @artchick07

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope you can get it covered with a surgeon you can trust. Btw I just had top surgery myself, Oct.

  • @pleasepleasethebees
    @pleasepleasethebees Жыл бұрын

    Literally spent 30 minutes on a new-to-me social media app recently and my mental state nose-dived. Of course, I hadn't set the preferences, so perhaps if I had, the content would've been better curated for me. But it was incredibly enlightening to observe myself through that experience and consider how we KNOW these apps effect teens.

  • @imberrysandy
    @imberrysandy Жыл бұрын

    This podcast gets better each episode! Im all about anything cosmetic surgery

  • @Rocioslane
    @Rocioslane Жыл бұрын

    I am not interested in cosmetic procedures for myself, but I really enjoyed the insight and transparency.

  • @kimberlyhacker3334
    @kimberlyhacker3334 Жыл бұрын

    Self acceptance is free. ❤️

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    My nose looks better after surgery.

  • @Mandy0456

    @Mandy0456

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm healed, thanks

  • @ELR87
    @ELR87 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your videos. They do not necessarily apply where I live, but I learn from them.

  • @ampersignia
    @ampersignia Жыл бұрын

    Can you please label these as a podcast in the thumbnail or title? I keep clicking on these assuming it’s a video and bounce off because I’m not in a podcast mood. Or can you do a video alongside the audio?

  • @AlexielRaziel

    @AlexielRaziel

    Жыл бұрын

    All of the Too Good to Be True episodes are podcasts

  • @engyolyonline4208
    @engyolyonline4208 Жыл бұрын

    I love this series!

  • @kiterafrey
    @kiterafrey Жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad you have a video to watch anytime. I do gig & FTE and my FTE is in OT crunch right now so I missed the live

  • @c.summerraines1020
    @c.summerraines1020 Жыл бұрын

    I really wish the podcast videos were labeled as such.

  • @oritigra
    @oritigra Жыл бұрын

    Ugh, it's not uncommon to get an infection, complications and/or bad reactions from any surgery - you can get this from your expensive US plastic surgery clinic as well. So to put so much emphasis on "abroad" pairing with "unsanitary conditions" feels pretty phobic...

  • @Merrybandoruffians
    @Merrybandoruffians Жыл бұрын

    Omg. When he said “elbow lift” I assumed it was just hyperbole. Nope. People actually have their elbow skin lifted. Wow.

  • @karynnotkaren693
    @karynnotkaren693 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great episode. I love the format, part confessional part informational. When I was 25 I started a mutual fund where I deposited 75 a month and called it my plastic surgery fund. I don't get my nails or eyebrows done which I imagine is 75 a month so it is affordable. If I wait till my 50s (which is quickly approaching), i will be able to get a Marc Jacobs face lift when the time comes 😆. I come from an era before the internet and social media and was socialized by regular media to fear aging and to think my value is shaped by my appearance. It is hard to reprogram yourself (fyi, I have retirement investments as well)

  • @Rosie-xm7ry

    @Rosie-xm7ry

    Жыл бұрын

    Same for me, and if it turns out I don’t want plastic surgery in the end, I’ll still have a ton of money 💰 I also agree that it’s not a social media problem. I grew up with photoshopped magazine covers only to look at, so seeing real people on insta actually helps me lol

  • @kimberlyhacker3334
    @kimberlyhacker3334 Жыл бұрын

    Omggg csections are a lot of work to heal. I had an emergency one, but i did hear that planned ones are easier to heal from. But i was lucky to be able to do vbacs after my csection.

  • @paillette2010
    @paillette2010 Жыл бұрын

    Took a biomedical ethics course and the gist of it is that any plastic surgical procedure that isn’t necessary (like burns, scars, cleft palate) should require pre surgical therapy. Even the host had a ton of stuff done with not a thought to further explore the shame, low self esteem, etc. that drove him to it. Not a good episode.

  • @emmysikorski44
    @emmysikorski44 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to work for TFD!! I was also a PA for a decade in Maryland (grew up in Annapolis) and relate so much to all your anecdotes.

  • @TheAngryMarshmallow
    @TheAngryMarshmallow Жыл бұрын

    Trying to sign up for the free workshop. The button doesn't work :( is there an alternative link?

  • @LaLayla99
    @LaLayla99 Жыл бұрын

    This post makes me so sad for people who are willing to subject themselves to these procedures.

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    Virtue Signalling. You don't have to feel sad for adults that make decisions that have zero impact to your life. Not everybody who has plastic surgery done is a poor mental instable victim.

  • @kiterafrey
    @kiterafrey Жыл бұрын

    Don't get crowns or veneers without needing them. I 100% had to have two from an accident that damaged my teeth. If you get one in the front you can't eat specific things anymore, I can't eat caramel or taffy or bite into an apple because I could risk the tooth getting stuck and pulled off, which isn't common but if happens is painful.

  • @AyH25
    @AyH25 Жыл бұрын

    How do you ask your doctor to use your photos for a discount? I missed that opportunity lol but maybe in the future?

  • @AlexHider

    @AlexHider

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess you just ask when the pricing is discussed, like hey, is there anything that can get this price down? I am okay with you using my before and after a or a testimonial etc etc

  • @LoveAndSnapple
    @LoveAndSnapple Жыл бұрын

    Totally unrelated note but he sounds like the voice actor for Elfo from Disenchanted. 😅

  • @bitteralmonds666
    @bitteralmonds666 Жыл бұрын

    When it comes to this, you don't wanna go cheep - because you really do get what you pay for. The phrases "tijuana b00b j0b" and "b0lt-0ns" didn't come outta nowhere and without reason. 12 grand is actually not that expensive for major plastic surgery. In this case, you gotta good deal.

  • @Mrkevi123

    @Mrkevi123

    Жыл бұрын

    That is not true. There are many spectacular surgeons in many countries, including Mexico. Also, high cost does not equal high quality. That is a complete fallacy.

  • @bitteralmonds666

    @bitteralmonds666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mrkevi123 Of course, there are. I am referring to the ones who advertise costs that are "too good to be true." You can find expert plastic surgeons in Mexico and many other countries - and, dollar-for-dollar, their services and expertise are not cheap. It is not a complete fallacy in this instance. Conversely, there are plenty of awful back-alley "aestheticians" here in the US, too.

  • @atesah
    @atesah Жыл бұрын

    Usually love this channel but this episode is annoying me. I think it’s the American superiority that’s got some xenophobia mixed in. There are TERRIBLE predatory and incompetent surgeons in the US (I’ve spent a lot of time on Realself reading about them). Yes of course there is dodgey stuff going on in plastic surgery but all the dodgey stuff doesn’t only happen in scary “underdeveloped” (read: overexploited) countries. A lot of it is going on in your own back yard. I know you guys mean well but you should be more egalitarian with your criticisms of the plastic surgery industry, maybe add more context instead of flatly fear mongering and also check your own biases. Btw not every export from China and Russia has secret evil juice inside it….

  • @oritigra

    @oritigra

    Жыл бұрын

    While there's never any good coming from communists, I agree this episode was very phobic

  • @user-kh3nx3mg2f

    @user-kh3nx3mg2f

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oritigra Russia has a capitalistic system, not a communistic one. 31 years already. In fact, communism has not been built yet in any place in the world. I don't want to fight, just stopping the misinformation

  • @gayathrivaidy

    @gayathrivaidy

    Жыл бұрын

    This ! Thank you ! If one were to compare the sheer number of "botched" surgeries in the USA to the rest of the world, USA would still emerge the "winner". While researching is important, not all PS tourism is bad and not all American surgeons are good.

  • @Tanktaco
    @Tanktaco Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Can't help but feel like this audio is still an ad for plastic or helps normalize it, though. With how much excitement it felt like there was to . . . sip the tea? Inevitable when it's so close to one of the hosts I suppose. I'm left curious what the metrics are for people staying on board till the end to hear the message that "self acceptance is free and it's a lot better for you".

  • @frankbatista.official
    @frankbatista.official Жыл бұрын

    Great video!!!! I also love talking about budgeting. One thing that I love to talk about with my clients is having goals. Most of the people who can't stick to a budget are those who don't have any goals or objectives. Always have goals for your money guys. Love your videos!!!!!

  • @CH-vm6cq
    @CH-vm6cq Жыл бұрын

    Preventative Botox is a real thing and it's useful. It freezes dynamic wrinkles before they become static. Totally recommend.

  • @ryanhoulihan

    @ryanhoulihan

    Жыл бұрын

    Here’s why Botox isn’t right for a lot of people - especially preventative. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKZo0Jp8mrG0qcY.html

  • @MyHonest123
    @MyHonest123 Жыл бұрын

    Pls put this on Spotify 🙏🏾

  • @jaineas

    @jaineas

    Жыл бұрын

    It's on Spotify, just look it up. I'm sure you're going to find the episode there.

  • @MyHonest123

    @MyHonest123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaineas thank you!

  • @jaineas
    @jaineas Жыл бұрын

    People post themselves getting non invasive procedures such as fillers, so I wouldn't doubt if they post their invasive procedures

  • @Alex-sv6wy
    @Alex-sv6wy Жыл бұрын

    I think getting a personal loan in order to get cosmetic procedures done is worth taking the time to investigate more. Of course people are entitled to make their own choices, but being so unhappy with yourself that you want to spend that kind of money and take on loans to "fix" yourself seems like you might need therapy, not plastic surgery, to address those issues.

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    Wrong. Totally wrong. I JUST wanted a smaller nose. I could pay it without a loasn, done by a known and good surgeon. But maybe if I didn't have the money, I would have taken a loan. Like people do for their generic houses in suburbia, their cars, their pet's vet bills and their iPhones. You don't need a house in suburbia, isn't it mentally ill to get a 500.000$ loan to rot away in car centered Isolation?

  • @ariesmry

    @ariesmry

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s an individual issue that is a symptom of a much larger societal issue. Cultivating a type of confidence or indifference towards your looks and body without the need of enhancements, is not only financially cheaper, but physically and mentally healthier and sustainable. Unfortunately, it doesn’t change the fact that we’ve become a society that is hyper aware and critical of looks, where it’s quite obvious and data shows that people are socially and economically rewarded for looking “better” or moreso, conventionally attractive. Historically, humans have chased whatever their cultural ideas of beauty are, as fitting into the standard exploits the human bias of attraction and the halo effect. The technology has simply gotten more advance and now is more accessible. So now its less about being unhappy with one’s looks and moreso framed as an investment so that it gives an individual an edge in life, no different from getting a college degree so that it increases one’s chance of having a higher income. Pair this whole thing with the fact that you can advertise Botox in the US- the next generation has their work cut out for them. It’ll either get more extreme towards in the journey for “perfection”, or a reactionary movement toward acceptance will finally take cultural dominance. Unfortunately, advertising has the bigger budget, so the latter is truly the underdog movement.

  • @dangeldoll
    @dangeldoll Жыл бұрын

    *cosmetic surgery kids games* I saw so many kid games that range from makeovers to cosmetic surgery, to dental and medical surgeries for kids, you see a cartoon character like Elsa, poor Elsa had EVERYTHING DONE, Elsa had her face busted and reconstructed so many times, it’s funny for an adult, but those are kids games, those are hours of play “doing cosmetic surgeries”, a 4yo taps-on the phone ipad and learns that Elsa needs a makeover, her skin needs fixing, her hair needs fixing, her teeth needs fixing and then more, her feet need work, her belly needs work, *Elsa Brain Surgery* games are a thing… and many Elsa Giving Birth games, Elsa has so many babies now, and I learned that ElsaxJackFrost is a thing just by how many baby games they have, they are baby making machines played by lil children at some point, it was scary how many games were out there some were more creepypasta that kids game *edit: NO, this is not the Parent's fault, the companies that make the games are the problem!*

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the parents fault if they let their kids play these games. Good parents care for quality time without technical devicess, good parents say no to such harmfull nonsense.

  • @dangeldoll

    @dangeldoll

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CordeliaWagner this is Not about parents, this is about *Cosmetic Surgeries* making it to games for children, as gameplay parents can't monitor their kids 24/7, kids are smart enough to avoid their parents and play games my school library computers were stuffed with boys playing games that they were not allowed to play at home, kids find ways to play what they want stop putting blame on parents, and start blaming game companies - they are the root of the problem

  • @clAssIcAllymINdless

    @clAssIcAllymINdless

    Жыл бұрын

    Good points!

  • @Justcetriyaart
    @Justcetriyaart Жыл бұрын

    I debate if I'll get my things done during my long trip in korea. would like more about extra skin removal (lost a lot of weight) and breast reduction (not enough for insurance to kick in). Also would love to hear about how when people do get these done, they alll look the same? Its why I'm ok with not getting my nose done. I don't think the 'instagram nose' would match my face.

  • @sarahwatts7152

    @sarahwatts7152

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a friend get lasik, it went well for her. I think she did quite a lot of research before committing though; the 'research a lot' rule seems to apply with any medical procedure you can plan in advance

  • @kaw8473
    @kaw8473 Жыл бұрын

    My c-section cost $35K it's the most bang for your buck.

  • @gracemullen8183
    @gracemullen8183 Жыл бұрын

    Is it bad that I think that it’s good that cosmetic procedures are more available for the average person? Most people don’t NEED plastic surgery and Botox, but if you’re obsessing over something cosmetic than it can be good to fix it, even if it’s not at Kardashian quality.

  • @wl9162

    @wl9162

    Жыл бұрын

    It's honestly a double edged sword. Like, yeah, it can help people to have that option, for sure, but it also means that we no longer have to just compare ourselves to extremely wealthy people and celebrities. Now, everyone can count on comparing themselves to their slightly-more-well off middle class neighbors. Also, since more people can get these procedures en mass, beauty standards and expectations have shifted drastically. And it's still not lower income people who can afford this stuff.

  • @Gumbyloomy

    @Gumbyloomy

    Жыл бұрын

    The “average person” who can afford these procedures is not low income; lower income people still do not have access to this most of the time. Yes I’m glad that cosmetic surgery is becoming more affordable, no I don’t think it’s overall good for ppls self esteem.

  • @lucysour

    @lucysour

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wl9162 Even if cosmetic procedures were available for every man, woman, and child on the planet, is that necessarily a good thing? I love my facecare, wear makeup sometimes, and have had microneedling and other non invasive stuff, so I'm not saying we should all live the life of an ascetic, but being constantly preoccupied with physical appearance does have a sense of vapidness to me. Like, even if you don't have a self image problem, you are basically required to keep up w/ beauty standards to some degree so you're not treated like a pariah.

  • @wl9162

    @wl9162

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucysour I know, and I already fully agree with you (that was the whole second part of my comment). The problem, from my perspective, is in shifting beauty standards, and honestly? The existence of beauty standards as a whole has always been a massive social issue, it's just that late-stage capitalism in conjunction with social media has amplified that even further recently (ex., filters are huge factors in skewing people's perceptions of what their own and others' faces actually look like, in addition to both casual non-invasive and invasive cosmetic procedures).

  • @lucysour

    @lucysour

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wl9162 Yep, I totally agree. Sorry if my comment read as combative, I was just adding my 2 cents.

  • @muoian
    @muoian Жыл бұрын

    Also look at the surgeon and ask if u like their aesthetic lol

  • @guerillahag
    @guerillahag Жыл бұрын

    they came so close to the point, the evil of proliferating cosmetic procedures to adhere to a beauty standard propagated by the patriarchy and colonization. but alas, the yas kween slay won out.

  • @CordeliaWagner
    @CordeliaWagner Жыл бұрын

    Some people are just stupid. You can do whatever you want with your body. And it's YOUR responsibility to look for a good doctor and educate yourself about the surgery you want to have done. There is nothing wrong in wanting to look your best.

  • @feraldog8376
    @feraldog8376 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, so I understand many of the creative decisions here, and I like that you mention how trans peoples’ experiences have helped normalise and develop plastic surgery, but I question the decision to have a cut where Julia says ‘so how did trans peoples’ experiences… and I have kids and I dread them getting online and seeing how they’re supposed to look.’ I understand that her topic changed, but given the extremity with which ‘kids + trans surgery/transition’ is being pursued right now, and how much damage that’s doing for kids like me who are now being forced to go through natal puberty or worse in spite of their doctors’ recommendations, I think I’d’ve liked a clearer distinction? Or perhaps the important and valid question of social media + beauty standards’ affect on kids *not* being placed in proximity to anything they mentions trans people. It’s pedantic, but it’s also being used to destroy us, which is not hyperbolic- and certainly not if you listen to the comments being made by those passing the laws:

  • @neonpandas
    @neonpandas Жыл бұрын

    So help me understand...people get plastic surgery and non-invasive procedures that change their appearance to correct self-esteem issues based solely on beauty standards in the media but won't work on the root cause of the issue which is psychological? Also why are we not addressing the toxic image of beauty standards in the media making people think something is wrong with the way they look? These said procedures and surgeries need to be maintained which costs lots of money over the years and can be detrimental to health all in the name of beauty. Beauty isn't perfection and there sure shouldn't be a standard. Also, very few people who alter their appearance never take aging into consideration. No amount of Botox at 80 will make you look young or change your inevitable fate. People seem to equate beauty to acceptance and then feel shocked when people begin treating them differently...well yes because you look different. If people treated you differently based on your appearance these were not friends to begin with. Body positivity is spread all over the media yet people go under the knife all in the name of acceptance so this proves this body positivity movement is a lie. Using Kylie Jenner and Khloe Kardashian as examples, no matter how much you change your face/body any children you have will have a 50% chance of getting your biological features because surgery cannot change DNA. So to the parents who get plastic surgery, what does this tell your children? What if they have features you had that you hated on yourself? Wouldn't you tell them to love themselves?

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    I had high self esteem. And wanted to look better. Get off your moral high horse.

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    You can love your child AND have plastic surgery. And who brings children into this bad rotten world has a few screws loose. #childfree

  • @MsCristina38

    @MsCristina38

    Жыл бұрын

    It boils down to accepting yourself. People with big noses or big stomachs or anything else they don’t like about their appearance don’t get surgery to correct it because they accept themselves for who they are, imperfections included. They accept themselves.

  • @ariesmry

    @ariesmry

    Жыл бұрын

    Framing this as an individual psychological issue is very similar to how climate change is being pushed as an issue of an individuals “carbon footprint.” It ignores the billion dollar industries that advertise and profit off of creating and maintaining these insecurities to begin with. And the cultural messages one receives early on about looks and worth. How does one find out they are “ugly” to begin with? They aren’t born with this thought- the world tells them over and over. And it’s not just from the advertisements, it’s the treatment from peers and parents and romantic partners. So why are people getting cosmetic changes as opposed to therapy? Because the first one allows you to reap the social and economic benefits from society almost instantaneously. We’re a looks driven society, mix that with capitalism and people get rewarded handsomely for looking conventionally attractive. Let’s take Kylie Jenner as a case study. Without her cosmetic surgery, she would not be the cultural figure that she is now. She wouldn’t have been able to build her empire off of lip kits, and even if she found another way to make money, Kylie Jenner version 1 would not have access to the same romantic partners that she did as Kylie Jenner v2 and beyond. Both Kylie Jenner and Khloe Kardashian use cosmetic surgery as tools to getting access to and fitting into certain social and economic circles. Their kids are simply trophies of successfully doing do. And speaking of the kids- cosmetic surgery is a solution to what could be a temporary phase or mindset (with the less invasive ones not being permanent at all). Not every indiv with cosmetic surgery going to be critical of or encourage that as a solution for their kids if they are born with the features they changed. Just because someone dyes their hair red, doesn’t mean they’re going to love their kids any less if their children all have brown or blonde hair. Just because someone don’t like how a feature looks on them, doesn’t mean they hate that feature on everyone. Also, kids are not DNA carbon copies of one person, there is another parent whose dna comes into play. Just tryna bring some nuance to the conversation.

  • @neonpandas

    @neonpandas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ariesmry hence the 50% DNA (I did take into consideration the other parent) 😉 but otherwise I agree

  • @ELR87
    @ELR87 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, first comment (I hope)

  • @SWEETODDSANDENDS
    @SWEETODDSANDENDS Жыл бұрын

    First I want to say I really like your podcast and the way you explain every topic. I also appreciate your honesty and point of view🥰 Now, as a European that moved to Canada in 2017, I've noticed how different we are in this aspect. While cosmetic procedures are getting more popular there, it is nothing compared to North America. There, it's mostly lip fillers, nose modifications, and boob jobs. I've only known one person with a lip filler, and my mom had eyelid surgery. As soon as I came to Ontario, I had 4 out of 12 coworkers that already had cosmetic procedures done, mostly on their faces, and the youngest one was only 20. I'm not against cosmetic procedures, I just never really thought about it or wanted one. I can understand why people would want to do it, especially if your body is what brings you money. And even if not that, if you're unhappy with something and are able to do something about it, good for you. I wish you all the best! 🫶 What I don't understand is why people or so willing to do it cheaply, in someone's basement or even a parking lot. Why spend thousands of dollars on fast fashion and decor, but not properly invest in your own body? Is there any research involved? Or do people just hope for the best? Where's the common sense? So sad. Thanks again Ryan and Julia 💛

  • @CordeliaWagner

    @CordeliaWagner

    Жыл бұрын

    I wasn't unhappy. I wanted to look better. I like what I see very much. But I had it done by a known and very good surgeon. After I had educated myself very good. Because I am not naive.

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