Exciting news, I am happy to announce that I have found a cameraman+video editor for Inside The Cockpit! What's the big deal you ask, surely that's nothing special! Well, it is for me - I've been doing all by myself so far. Previous attempts to get someone to help out were difficult, as the niche content was difficult to work with (e.g. imagine I talk about the leading edge and suddenly you see footage of the gear...). Anyway, I've been working with 'Josh' for some time now, and it seems to work really well. He is going to be shooting and editing Inside The Cockpits in the future, it's a learning process so if you see minor rough edges for a few episodes, just close that eagle eye of yours - but feel free to give constructive feedback :)

@stamfordly6463

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear this. I hope it allows you to justify filming trips further afield such as Cosford. If you are up in that area I am told that there is a private collector near Bridgnorth with a Harrier GR 3 that he likes to show off

@cannonfodder4376

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear, hopefully a good and fruitful partnership that frees up much more time for other things.

Жыл бұрын

Nice that you get some help. He did a good job. Every youtuber should habe a Josh in their life. Of course Nigel would have been a more apropriate name for an aviation channel based in the UK, but you cant have eyerything :)

@Akm72

Жыл бұрын

Good video but it's a shame you didn't get access to the back seat!

@xijinpingpong4426

Жыл бұрын

It would be nice, if you could do a video about the NH90 disaster and maybe interview some soldiers who use this helicopter. It seems like most of the users already want to get rid of it, only a few years after it was bought.

My father was in the team that designed the wings for the Buccaneer. Story: He was called to inspect an early model as "the wings are rattling", very serious of course, MOD not happy at all (new plane, unhappy that design flaw found etc). After extensive investigations.. it turned out the pilot hit a mountain with a wing tip during low flying tests in Scotland.

@garnix6390

Жыл бұрын

Speaks well of the plane, that it remained in the air after this hit.

@grizwoldphantasia5005

Жыл бұрын

@@garnix6390 And the mountain, it gets no credit?

@anselmdanker9519

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 so the pilot was not aware about the incident

@QuinchGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@anselmdanker9519 apparently the test pilot wasn't entirely aware no, he thought it was a stress failure as he heard the thump & felt the vibrations during a really low, tight banking turn. He'd caught the tip I was told. To me as a kid it was just the story of the RAF pilot who hit a mountain & didn't know 🤣

@anselmdanker9519

Жыл бұрын

@@QuinchGaming thank you what a story- the Buccaneer was built like a battle ship 😄

Spent many years on 208 sqn Buccaneers as a weapons engineer. Yes we used to fit Chaff in the air brakes secured by black tape after cleaning for better adhesion. This was later replaced by AN/ALE40 CHAFF AND FLARE DISPENSERS fitted at the rear holding 40 each if I recall . These were used during Beirut Buccs operation PULSATOR as well as during my time at Lossiemouth .

The RAF used to use our village to practise a lob-bomb attack, flying a Buccaneer up the valley below the roof-tops, pulling up hard & fast at the head of the valley & then almost instantly peeling left & diving to ground-level. This was preceded by 3 or 4 Phantoms running AA suppression at the same altitude but leaving at ground level, staying below the ridge. About 1/2 an hour later a Canberra would appear at altitude, orbit the village & leave, probably PR to check the target. As much as I admire(d) Buccaneers & Phantoms, it wasn't fun.

I may possibly be dreaming this - but i think i remember stories of Buccaneers at Red Flag exercises, where the Yanks scoffed at these "old" planes when they first appeared there - but never got a "kill" with their shiney new kit in all the combat missions flown against them!

@RetroGamesCollector

Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right. All the gear and no idea. 😉

@clacicle

Жыл бұрын

I think I heard a story of this on Aircrew Interview.

@timgray5231

Жыл бұрын

Rumour has it on approach they increased altitude to clear the perimeter fence on the first strike. No radar locks on the aircraft and resorted to Mk1 eyeball for air defence.

@babboon5764

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroGamesCollector Not really. The cousins are very professional flyers. But, like the Vulcan simulated raids before that, they hadn't really appreciated what high-speed low level antics the Buc crews were capable of and they hadn't got a prepared strategy. (IF the US Airforce has a fault its that it does like 'plug & play' pre-prepared strategies (which they can implement extremely smoothly).

@gusty9053

Жыл бұрын

No dream, saw it some documentary years ago, the Buccaneer was flying so low the american F15 s couldn't get a radar lock. When the buccaneer inverted to go over a ridge upside down at what was probably close to top speed they kind of gave up :)). The Buccaneer crews were used to map up attack runs that hugged the terrain so closely that any radar system was loosing them in the terrain "background noise".

I made the arrester hook arm, the long section of the flight refuelling probe and the bomb door hinges when I worked at Brough. It was an amazing aircraft, your video did it proud!

Very nice video Chris. Especially love the bomb bay door opening sound effects!

@MilitaryAviationHistory

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure

The Buccaneer appears to like both stout and single-malt.

I’m a bit late in commenting but I just wanted to say what an excellent video this is. It was 30 years, almost to the day (18 Apr 1994), that I flew the very last RAF Buccaneer, so the cockpit tour, in particular, was a great trip down memory lane. (Just one error - the highlighted ‘wing fold mechanism lever’ is actually the oxygen on/off switch.) That aeroplane also makes me smile. I flew it in Op Granby (not ‘Desert Storm’, thank you!) on my longest mission: 5 hours and 30 minutes. And, when we got to the target, it had already been destroyed! Fog of war, as they say!

"Before I do that though, let me just take that stick in the hand ... and just enjoy the moment a little bit." You dirty boy, you 😉

Thanks for the excellent walk around of this Buccaneer, I have a photo of this very aircraft taken in Bahrain during the 1st Gulf War, as well as other aircraft that took part in operation Granby which was the RAF name for our efforts during Desert Storm. Perhaps the artist hadn't finished it when I took it but the name Pauline wasn't present on the artwork or some of her clothes!.

They considered having a longer wing span, but realised it would just catch on the ground when banking at the standard operating altutude, so didn't fit it.

Funny how the "Nose Art" is NEVER addressed. Morale is paramount for Any Mission. 😉

The Buccaneer was so far ahead of it's time when it first flew in the late 50s. Great video and well done in doing it in one take!

Can we just take a moment to applaud Josh for his steady clear camera work and his agility in following you round.

I was stationed at Quonset Point Naval Air Station in 1969 and found one of these on the flight line. A very impressive aircraft.

As far as I know, keeping the engine spooled up and managing the speed with airbrakes is common on naval jets, because it is quicker to retract the airbrakes than to spool up the engine in a go around. It's true that on planes like the F4 or the Buccaneer you need to keep airflow to the blown flaps, but the technique is also used on the Fouga Magister, that I don't think was equipped with them.

@20chocsaday

Жыл бұрын

There is a site where former pilots talk about the planes they used to fly. A US pilot said about the F4 that the Spey engines that the British used did not spool up so quickly as those he had flown. Bad for carrier landings. I also heard on a similar site that the Spey engines were more fuel efficient. It made me guess that they had a higher bypass ratio.

Excellent video as always, just a couple of notes: the specs in the buccaneer, unlike the phantom, weren’t fitted with reheat. Yes, reheat - only septics call it an ‘afterburner’

I have always lovvvved the profile view of this bird. Ever since the 70s/80s when I was a kid.

@zenzen9131

Жыл бұрын

Designed using the principle of "area rule" like the Thunderchief, which made it more efficient in the transonic speed range.

Ah the Buccaneer, the one Blackburn product that worked and did very well. Ugly as sin but very serviceable. Another excellent video Chris and well done on doing that walkaround in a single take.

@cellokid5104

Жыл бұрын

Very ugly

Speaking with an ex-RAF Squadron Leader last evening, Buccaneer pilots made very good use of its ground effect characteristics. When properly trimmed it would fly comfortably hands-off at an altitude of 29ft (8.84m).

I have been fired from a Martin Baker ejector seat taken from a Buccaneer. I will say, it was a compressed air actuated version used for training. About forty years ago in George Square in Glasgow, there was a display from the Fleet Air Arm, who brought the forward section of a Buccaneer to view and an Ejector seat on an angled rail which you could be fired up. Lots of fun for an eleven year old boy!

Take off check list: Throttle Full V1 rotate Guy in black has altitude nosebleed ? Raise Gear Descend to cruise/sheep sheering altitude Start ‘show the tornado how it’s done!’ Mix tape

My dad worked as a Buccaneer dorsal fitter at HS Brough when he left the army in '69. I remember once being in an RAF recruiting office and seeing a video of a Buccaneer diverting into Gibraltar with an engine problem. Having since flown into Gib I think that was a very brave decision! I saw these aircraft at air displays many times when I was young and always loved the rugged look. There are many stories about Buccaneers amazing opposition military units during exercises! I spoke to a Buccaneer pilot at one airshow who told me that the aircraft was a bit of a pig to fly until you got it above 300kt at which point it was lovely to fly and like it was on rails. He also told me that if you lost an engine (and with it the blown wing on that side) it flew like a brick! Thanks for the tour of this amazing aircraft 👍😁

@grahamstanley7311

3 ай бұрын

I was listening in on a test flight (as the ground based avionics guy) when over the North Sea at low altitude the test pilot pulled high G. (Can't remember if it was 4 or 5). The port engine failed.... Half of it was missing when it got back to Bitteswell, the BAe airfield it was refurbished at. The climb on one engine was approximately 1000ft a second. Despite a related failure of his main navigation stuff, he flew back and land easily.

Looking good; nice work Chris and Josh!

So happy to see this video! Truly an unsung hero in the first Gulf War. A better explanation of the variable Center of Gravity (CG), with multiple fuel tanks and associated pumps, is that it optimizes the weight and balance of the aircraft for stable trimmed flight in the longitudinal axis. EG: it makes the a/c easier to fly with fewer trim and control inputs without putting the aircraft out of its limits.

Man I choked on my cuppa at the Quick Erection comment, but Voodoo Machines and LuftWaffles caught me off guard a second and third time - well played good sir 👏

Thanks so much for a fantastic guided tour of historic aircraft. Please keep this up. When you describe drop tanks etc. It would be great to know the extended range and maybe time in holding pattern for the tank.

Fleet Air Arm: May we have A6 Intruder please? Parliament: You already have an Intruder at home. A6 Intruder at home.

@Quadrant14

Жыл бұрын

The Intruder was a magic aircraft, you cannot compare a Buc with the A-6

So many stories abound about the Buccaneer, you never know true from false. However, based at Holbeach Range we had a flight of four Buccaneers call up for a first run attack as they had weapons onboard and couldn't land in the UK with them. The controller said to the American RSO (from the 48th TFW at Lakenheath,) 'This will be interesting'. As they pulled up over the sea wall, calming calling in hot, the RSO was just lifting his jaw up off the floor. He was totally gobsmacked at the skill that they were displaying.

That is a very nice Buccaneer, I've been to see it myself

Can't wait to see you do the A6 intruder.

Well done on that cockpit, possibly the most complicated you have had to describe. No wonder you did the audio later with the manuals at hand. ;-) Thanks to Hendon. Now possibly a walk around IWM Duxford?

Great video!

Thank you great video.

Another very interesting and easy to follow video, as with the F4 Phantom. 10/10

A great aircraft and amazingly effective at its job even up to its retirement from service.

28:36 Weapon Select dial indicated in the lower left of the box with a position marked “NUCLEAR”

My favourite RAF aircraft, I was lucky enough to be attached to 12 squadron when they flew these in the 1970s .

A great Aircraft...West Germany came pretty close to ordering the plane back in the day for the Marine Flieger but got the Starfighter instead..

Not far from RAF Lossiemouth, where quite a lot of these Bucks were based, there is a petrol station with one parked on the forecourt.

Fantastic review of the Buccaneer. I worked on the Buccs in the 80s at Raf Lossiemouth on 237 ocu . I’m going to be making a vr simulator using a real buccaneer aircraft 😀 Regards Dave from Scotland

@davidmuir6849

9 ай бұрын

By the way How do I get the buccaneer for war thunder do I pay for the model ?

chris happy new year i love your videos.Bill in Ireland

Blackburn... they made so many bad aircraft, I'm amazed they survived all those years, to finally come up with the legend of the Buccaneer! what a weapon!

30:07 - I will behave against my better wishes but I am still giggling 😁

Brings back memories of my time on 237 ocu at Raf Honnington on the flight line

I sat in the cockpit of this exact aircraft a few days ago, very comfortable seat for a warplane

Chaff stuffed behind the speedbreak, I heard that in Dave Morgans account flying the FRS1 Sea Harrier when attacking Port Stanley during the Falklands War. The Harriers did not have much for self protection except for a simple RWR, so this was the least they could do to protect the aircraft from being shot down. The Argentines did have some sophisticated kit like Roland and Swiss Fledermaus radar, so there was a realistic scenario of shooting down Harriers with SAMs.

I just have to visit that museum!

Great video as allways. It would be very interesting if you could make an inside the cockpit of a german alpha jet!

Honestly it would be really cool to see an inside the cockpit on a fitter, Su-17M4 or Su-22M4 would be great, thanks for making videos that are both informative and entertaining :D

Nice video, neat stuff to know, but I never actually flew the S2B. However, I got very interested when Chris made the walkaround down the right side at about 13 minutes, as I do have a whole grunch of time in 553, flying wx recon out of KBIX in Biloxi for several years.

Bis the best war thunder ad you could give is the clip of you singing with bo

I loved the celebration

There used to be one of these parked outside a petrol station near RAF Lossiemouth , was always cool to see it but sadly it got moved someplace else recently

@20chocsaday

Жыл бұрын

They had to keep the petrol somewhere till they got a hole dug.

Nice Video. Very interesting. I like the Plane and the Name. When I was a kid my Father had a book with priat stories from the Caribean. And of course quite a few of those guys were Bucccaneers. But I am surprised that Chris does play Targets in War Thunder.

As someone who was not familiar with this plane before Chris filmed this and gave a live tour of the museum as well, I actually really appreciated the War Thunder footage. My first reaction to this plane when I saw Chris' live stream was that the plane was butt ugly. It is painted an unappealing brown color and the wings are folded. I am not criticizing the museum's choice to keep the plane in its Desert Storm "camo", and I totally understand folding the wings for space related reasons. But the plane made a very poor first impression on me. The War Thunder footage with a more generic RAF paint scheme really shows this plane off in ways that are honestly quite appealing looking.

@timgray5231

Жыл бұрын

Ah, when buying a house always look beyond the Decore, focus on form and finish 🙂

Another first for the Bucc: its sight was intended to be fed with info about the basic fligh and target info, hence becoming the first HUD in history.-

Fantastic nose art as well

@frostedbutts4340

3 ай бұрын

If you look up photos some lad did matching pinups for the whole squadron, pretty cool.

Getting Chris to pronounce a "W" in English is like trying to get a Scotsman to say, "Purple Burglar Alarm."

To answer Babalonkie's question, the chaff dispensers were fitted on the inboard sides of the outboard wing pylons. The flare dispenser was in the holdback (redundant on land-based aircraft) compartment, just forward of the airbrakes and underneath the rear fuselage.

The flying banana, carved from solid what a machine 💪

Great vid young man. Thoroughly enjoyed. It’s probably a “Flying myth” but was it said that the Buccaneer reached operational altitude when it retracted its undercarriage ?

11:30 tl;dr For all the Kerbal players out there, center of mass should be just slightly ahead of center of lift.

Always very interesting, thank you. I anything, I would ask how the deicing system worked. Heated leading edge, glycol, or another system?

@grahamstanley7311

3 ай бұрын

The leading edges were blow from the engine, and the compressed air was quite hot. No chemical required.

My dad was one the Blue Parrot development engineers with Ferranti in Edinburgh for 30 plus years. It was a formidable aircraft, and took 'low level' to the max. The pilots wanted my dad to take the terrain clearance to 2 metres, he politely declined and set it to 10 metres, he wanted them to survive. The Buccaneer pilots would invert before cresting to hill so they could pull positive G and not 'pop up', scary stuff.

Hot take: But this is what the Marineflieger should have bought instead of the Lockheed F-104G Starfighter not saying the F-104G is bad fighter rather it was design to be a fighter-interceptor and could have been used as a "stop-gap" while waiting for the F-4 Phantom II to become available for the Luftwaffe (Post-WW2). The Buccaneer is better suited as naval strike fighter until the arrival of the Panavia Tornado IDS!

Really sorry about my language ( your English is great by the way...) but “hydraulic” is irregular ( because of course it is....) so the systems are “ hydraulic systems “ rather than “ hydraulical” , sorry to seem picky but I can see how much you care about this stuff 👍

@MilitaryAviationHistory

Жыл бұрын

Danke!

@dicktiionary

Жыл бұрын

Yup, English eh. The plane has an electrical system but not a hydraulical system.

@GSteel-rh9iu

Жыл бұрын

so fussy!

@20chocsaday

Жыл бұрын

My native language is English so I just say, "Hydraulics".

Thank you for the video, I have noticed that you are referring to hydraulic systems as hydraulical and although you have the word electrical when referring to electric systems that does not apply to hydraulics the plural is just that hydraulics.

Interesting to see the ground refueling control panel. Do any other planes have that? I would have guessed there's just the fuel line hookup and never thought that there should be some way to tell how much fuel is onboard. And what is in that huge long tailcone? Only thing missing was inside the rear cockpit. Other points of interest could be a detailed look at the wing folding halves, and inside the landing gear bays. But darned good to have you back!

@paulqueripel3493

Жыл бұрын

i don't know if you asked before he mentioned it, but the long tail cone splits open as the airbrake.

@grizwoldphantasia5005

Жыл бұрын

@@paulqueripel3493 Looking at it closed, I can't tell how big they brakes actually are; it looked to me like it was just 1/3 or 1/4 of the length. I've never seen any other airbrakes as big as that entire tail cone. Maybe it's just the camera angle makes it look big...

@20chocsaday

Жыл бұрын

@@grizwoldphantasia5005 It is big and once at an airshow I saw one being opened in flight.

@grizwoldphantasia5005

Жыл бұрын

@@20chocsaday I finally image searched and by golly you are right! I wonder why they wanted such a big one -- maybe it helped on carrier landings, but trying to land with it open looks like a disaster, and I doubt it opened fast enough to matter once the plane caught the cable.

@gusty9053

Жыл бұрын

@@grizwoldphantasia5005 It was a size saving measure to make it fit on the british carrier elevators. The initial requirement made it impossible to fit all the capability in the specified frame so the designers "cheated". The nose cone flips backwards or rather sideways and the tail cone flips open to shorten the plane. My guess is they decided to do something useful with that split tail and designed it to work as a tail air break. If you give a search on you tube for an older documentary on the buccaneer is covered in that.

I remember sitting in class one day about 1979-80 and one of these passed by around 40 metres away and about 10 metres above the houses. it made the windows rattle a little bit. They wouldn't be allowed to fly that low these days

If aircraft can be ugly, the Buccaneer is in the club. Still very interesting that it was developed in response to Russia building warships. Instead of building ships of their own to combat the threat - they built a plane to go after them. you the man Cris!

Aloha; well done sir! Mahalo

I did a literal spit take at "I'm just going to step around this nuke here." Such a deadpan thing to say! I feel like the Buccaneer is a sort of spiritual descendent of the Mosquito. Obviously it didn't have the Mosquito's enourmous speed advantage over an interceptor, but it still feel like a plane that would have excelled at rule 0 of self-defence: don't be where you can get attacked.

Op Granby for us Brits mate, Desert Storm was U.S. 😎

I don't know about Buccaneers but Executive Outcomes would put chaff in the air brakes of the Mig-23's they used in Angola as you say just when they pulled up after a bombing run it would be opened.

Can you please do the Harrier GR7 / 9 ? There's one on display at the Fleet air arm museum in Yeovilton

I can totally understand the no gun loadout. What i find strange is these big planes which clearly are not built for air to air combat getting a sneaky fox-2 missile (aka sidewinder) or 2. Especially earlier planes where you had to maneuver behind your target to have any probability of the heat seeker seeking the heat and not just flying away without meaning. Almost seems like it would be more meaningfull to have something more like an AMRAAM or similar with the obvious requirement to fit some kind of radar for initial lock and launch purposes. Something to suppress and push away any approaching air threats

@Akm72

Жыл бұрын

The Sidewinder was just there so you had something to shoot at an opportunity target popping up in front. I don't think they ever expected to outmaneuver a fighter that was aware that they were there.

@Finleymcg

Жыл бұрын

You're forgetting the psychological factor. The missiles make the pilot feel better and give them something to fire if they end up being bounced by a fighter.

It's almost inconceivable how the Buccaneers could operate from the smaller British carriers, especially HMS Hermes.

@jeffreyskoritowski4114

Жыл бұрын

The RN made the Phantom work. Kinda

@kilianortmann9979

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyskoritowski4114 And the Sea Vixen, with an even larger wingspan. There is a video with Scimitars and Sea Vixen landing on Hermes here on KZread, it looks absolutely crazy compared to an F/A-18 landing on a super carrier.

@Quadrant14

Жыл бұрын

How about the huge Sea Vixen on say HMS Victorius, smaller still!

@Akm72

Жыл бұрын

The blown flaps and powerful turbofans had a lot to do with it. The Mk.1 version had turbojets but struggled to operate safely.

I watched the in cockpit description and I wondered how pilots were able to fly these type of airplanes with all the controls that had to be monitored. To a non pilot, it seems very confusing.

What does a Pirate hide under his Bucking hat ? ....his Buccaneers 😉🤣🤣

I love how much of this aircraft folds up to fit the elevators in the old Ark Royal. Nosecone, wings, airbrakes (everything aft of the tailfin). Oh yes and the blown flaps to reduce landing speed. Amazing watching carrier landings with this thing, putting a fairly large piece of machinery on a teeny tiny deck about half the size of a US supercarrier. Doing cat/trap circuits in this thing was a hobby of mine in FSX/Prepar3d many moons ago. Always very satisfying, actually relatively easy to land on a carrier (at least compared to the phantom)

Chris, Have you done 'Inside the cockpit' in a rotary wing aircraft? Will you?

The weathering on that paintjob looks more like a scale model than a real aircraft. Is that really natural weathering or did the museum add artificial weathering to make it more interesting to look at? I've seen lots of dirty aircraft but never such uniform dirt specifically around panel lines and nowhere else.

@davidribeiro1064

Жыл бұрын

I think this might be desert camo.

@mickregan2620

Жыл бұрын

The desert camo scheme for Desert Storm was supposed to be temporary, so it wore off quiet easily. Also, the Bucc had a habit of venting hydraulic fluid, which is a pretty good paint stripper. That’s why the belly of the aircraft always looked dirty, typically on the right hand side of the bomb bay door.

0:55 People who knowingly walk into the frame of someone filming are the bottom of the barrel pondlife. The decent thing to do would be walking behind the cameraman. It’s not hard.

The Buccaneer is a descendant of the Mosquito. It's a fast bomber..

A terrific British aeroplane.

Not sure if it had nose wheel steering; I though it was done with the foot brakes 🤷‍♂️.

Pegged the one-shot performance about a minute before it was mentioned. Is this a one-off stunt or are we to expect this as the new standard?

this plane goes hard feel free to screenshot

@darriusdias

Жыл бұрын

30:10 🍆😉

Why do you never mention that a particular aircraft type saw service with the South African air force 😂

I believe you can call those ailerons with "flap function" flaperons...

@petecollis4419

Жыл бұрын

No, they are drooping ailerons Flaperons are flaps and ailerons combined

You da best of the best Chris!!! Save some of those bodacious babes for the rest of us!!!!!

Where in the museum is this Buccaneer? I was at the London museum in September and somehow missed this room / plane.

@MilitaryAviationHistory

Жыл бұрын

It’s the hangar next to the restaurant bldg.

@backwashjoe7864

Жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory ah dang! Looking at the map again, and that is the hanger that we missed! Did Hangers 1 and 2, then lunch (interrupted by a fire in the kitchen!), then 3 to 5. Just overlooked hanger 6 (and was out of time anyway)! A reason to go back. Also, thanks for these videos. An earlier one is how I heard of this RAF museum and the reason that we added it to our London itinerary. It was so freakin' awesome!!

The Brits just maked the complex airplane ever i just wonder how was like to work on the maintance team there😂

What's the gauges under the clear cover on the nose where Pauline is written?

@mickregan2620

Жыл бұрын

Main and Standby brake accumulator pressure gauges, so the pilot can check before he climbs onboard.

@michaelmaybury210

Жыл бұрын

Now that's something I would have never thought of but it makes sense now thanks

"As I pass the nuke here..." as blasé as only Chris can be....

Why were these Strike Fighters retired? My research shows that they were STIIL effective when retired and capable of upgrading.

I believe the Canberra bomber also had a rotary bomb bay.

@petecollis4419

Жыл бұрын

The US built ones did; as did the F-105

This would be such a better addition to war thunder than the basic S.2, it’s ordinance is much more interesting and larger but it’s just a game

@frostedbutts4340

3 ай бұрын

Well, finally you're in luck hah