Medical vehicles should require medical supplies in order to respawn a player. That way there is a resource tied to it to keep death a meaningful thing

@blindmown

20 күн бұрын

Actually a solid suggestion.

@charactersmoreorthree

20 күн бұрын

Clone juice.

@Pitt1127

20 күн бұрын

Love it

@Gofr5

20 күн бұрын

I think that is the eventual plan, no? I know they've talked about using clone goop or juice or whatever in the past before.

@valentinbrt3748

20 күн бұрын

It will come in the next month/years. They said they were going to do it !

CIG: Giving some love to our older vehicles, and bringing them up to our current day standard. Gladiator:

@xxCrimsonSpiritxx

20 күн бұрын

Cries in Aurora

@justus5612

20 күн бұрын

Conni, 600i

@trinityx3o522

20 күн бұрын

@@justus5612 600i gold standard is WIP right now

@yaeaster3454

20 күн бұрын

Reclaimer makes push ups in pain...

@jackryan1980

20 күн бұрын

GIB love to Gladiator !!! @CIG

I love the dancing around saying “this vehicle is visually legally distinct enough from the Raven that we aren’t violating the contract with Intel”

@Gwydion_Wolf

20 күн бұрын

It doesn't even have the same functionality. So it is a different ship.

@norgeek

20 күн бұрын

​@@Gwydion_WolfIntel's IP lawyers probably care less about functionality and more about looks. Intel owns the visual design afaik.

@2727daqwid

20 күн бұрын

Also it's red, so it's clearly AMD lol

@Gwydion_Wolf

20 күн бұрын

@norgeek it's more than just function. ALL of the Sabres share the same general outline. And the base model came out prior to the Raven. This one has the cut out area covered up with what looks like intakes. The guns are moved to be along the neck instead of in the wings. And it borrows the tail-fins of the Base Sabre. It's not just 1 thing different.

@hellcat5music

20 күн бұрын

Hi do you have a copy of the contract?

I find the lack of wee-woos on the Nursa disturbing.

You should change the *Ursa Medivac weapon for an external shield generator in the shape of a dome* that provides extra protection to the vehicle and a small periphery around it.

@TACTICAL_REAVER

20 күн бұрын

Should change its name to NUrsa

@xxCrimsonSpiritxx

20 күн бұрын

I hate it T-T

@enricod.7198

20 күн бұрын

Yeah more like a force field like the tevarin shields that also blocks physical damage, but idk how that would work with the lore etc..

@SpaceDad42

20 күн бұрын

Or neither and just out pretty lights.

@nicolepham3836

20 күн бұрын

@@enricod.7198 humanity has had tevarin shield tech since the 2600s. Hangars are airshielded, the Talon uses repro shields iirc, and a few other things

Sabre raven getting a gold standard pass before starter ships like the avenger titan is insane to me

@mustrumridcully3853

20 күн бұрын

But it comes with a new variant - which they will get money for. No money in a gold pass on an old ship.

@RonTaggart

20 күн бұрын

Look at hornet mk1 variants. No money in old ships, just make new ones "up to standard"

@Zel_Kova

20 күн бұрын

The Sabre is a starter ship ironically.

@Valiyus

20 күн бұрын

Think about it for a sec though. The more up to date vehicles are already close to what they would consider gold standard because they built a lot of those with tech included or had finally nailed the design down. Those older ones need like full reworks.

@pete3198

20 күн бұрын

Titan has had a refresh already. Sabre as far as im aware hasn't had any refreshes since it was first released.

“We want to sell the raven again but legally can’t, so here’s a slightly different raven.”

I love my Raven and I'm thrilled to see it getting its gold standard pass, but I really think the priority for gold standard needs to be focused on the smaller starter ships like the Mustang, Aurora, and Avenger.

@skibidabndada6683

20 күн бұрын

Fr, when I explain my „new“ friends how to use a starter ship, the most problems encounter with ui. it should be easy and intuitive to use

@twelvewingproductions7508

20 күн бұрын

Or at least start with ships that are in common use and should have higher priority. It's pretty clear here that the priority is ship sales and possibly promoting a new Intel promotional event.

@terrandysart3587

20 күн бұрын

I 100% agree. I will NEVER recommend my friends to spend more than $40 bucks on the game. Even as a concierge player. The game is more fun when you have to grind and earn. 95% of ppl playing will be playing these starters and they need to be the main focus

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

@@terrandysart3587 That's one way to look at it. Another way is that everyone might start with those ships, but they won't stay in them for long. No matter how reliable they are, there just isn't a whole lot they can do very well, so maybe it's better to focus on others. That said, the starters are small, simple ships so it should be pretty easy to give them a gold pass. And since they are "starters," yeah, at the very least they should be rock solid in terms of reliability. I didn't have any problems with the Aurora when I started... but I only flew it for maybe a week, then started renting Cutty+ROC until I could afford to buy Cutty+ROC.

@TimothySnowman

20 күн бұрын

@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 I think giving the starters a gold standard pass will allow new players to dip their toe into gameplay loops that are currently lacking, even if they're only using them briefly. None of the 3 starters that I mentioned currently have deployable components, so when they inevitably upgrade to a ship that does, it may be confusing or overwhelming to suddenly have to worry about them. That said, this will only really matter if we get Engineering before every ship gets its gold standard pass, which, looking at the cards for 4.0, may be the case.

Gold standard Connie when??????

@netshaman9918

20 күн бұрын

When GS 315P ?

@CitizenScott

20 күн бұрын

Soon! … ™️

@Em.P14

20 күн бұрын

Get ready to see the mk2 (ok probably mk6 as the phoenix is the mk4 already)rolling in ! Ye it might take a while but to be honest it probably won't need that much rework, will it (considering the already labeled spaces in the back for components and such, yes some remodeling, rigging and animationwork will need to be done but it might even be one of the more dooable ships ingame)?

@impullse01

20 күн бұрын

I would say gold standard Connie would be more valuable. Retaliator is generally not so useless and popular ship as Connie

@thrashjf83

20 күн бұрын

I want a gold standard connie and a gold standard cat.

Where are the Emergency Lights on the Ursa?!!!

@DonBilboism

20 күн бұрын

You mean emergency lasers?!

@Blackburn6969

20 күн бұрын

Hopefully they won't add them, do you see emergency flashing lights on medivac helicopters? No

@Uhhuhok434

20 күн бұрын

@@Blackburn6969 it's not a helicopter

@Blackburn6969

20 күн бұрын

@@Uhhuhok434 ik, my point is not all emergency vehicles need them.

@AgentXRifle

20 күн бұрын

But ground vehicles should. I don’t know any emergency response ground vehicles that do not have them… even construction vehicles get yellow lights! Mule needs yellow lights…

Respawns in T3 beds feels very silly, IMO. Ambulances are NOT mobile hospitals, they have supplies to stabilize a patient for transport to a medical facility, and the most significant medical feature on an Ambulance would be the trained EMTs.

@vincebarry9840

20 күн бұрын

Its absolutly a joke. ..at first all the medbed were respawn and then they removed the function for tiers 3. Its just a frakking 180 to sell the ursa

@StevenSudweeks

20 күн бұрын

This gives an actual reason to use something that has a T3 bed. They were next to useless before this. Also, I don't know if you noticed but this game doesn't take place in modern times. Ambulances very much could be mobile hospitals in the 900+ years in the future that this takes place.

@SuperlunarNim

20 күн бұрын

CIG: "Oh, you medics want a medical Ursa? Here you go lol" Followed by a full slap across the face to medics and their gameplay loop. Listening to John Crewe complain about backers consistently asking for something as basic and obvious as a medical ground vehicle after announcing that spawning change is just something else to behold.

@StevenSudweeks

20 күн бұрын

@@vincebarry9840 if that's all it's for then why not do that when they sold the C8R? It also has a T3 bed. This is solving a ton of issues. Is it perfect? No. It's needs some sort of balancing for example most people are saying it needs a medical commodity that you have to keep stocked in order to heal, or it has a cool down, or make it like ammo and fuel that can only be filled at a landing zone/station. Any of those would be good balancing. With how janky and buggy this game can be, being able to quickly respawn without having to backspace or wait 20 mins to be rescued is a good thing.

@rhadiem

20 күн бұрын

I like it, but I think they'll need to give it a cooldown so you can't respawn on it over and over in a short period. Once an hour on a T3 seems reasonable. It's a safety net but an arcade FPS game. Die twice and you have to go to a T2+ somewhere else.

What did we learn this week. That the merchantman isn’t here yet, and still isn’t a focus

@EPiQ_cR

20 күн бұрын

As a BMM pledge...I'm not surprised. What good is a merchant ship before even having 2 star systems?

@ReallyDazed

20 күн бұрын

My response to the video -- until we have more systems (I'm not talking about Pyro) and quantum is up and running, there is no point for the BMM yet. Let that ship cook. We do not need it yet.

@royzevisionneur2045

20 күн бұрын

the real question is and will always be... Where is Tony Z ?

@FunkThompson

20 күн бұрын

@@ReallyDazed Need? Who said "need." WANT. ;)

@sandman89176

20 күн бұрын

@@ReallyDazed not just systems but until there's a decent economy

I'm almost positive when ANYONE asks where's the medivac, I'm pretty sure they are talking about the Apollo, not a Pisces with wheels.

@uberfu

20 күн бұрын

Can't wait for the MPUV Medivac > the Dragonfly Medivac > the Freelancer Medivac > the MOLE Medivac > the Gladiator Medivac > the Merlin medivac > Aurora Medivac > Mustang Medivac. Every ship should have a "medivac" edition. /s

So basically you fire twice 6 missiles and ... Go back home ? x)

@zyloctal

20 күн бұрын

Go back to the polaris or idris for rearm :)

So they gold standard a ship that like 10 people own? Thats a high priority right there

@blindmown

20 күн бұрын

It's probably pretty easy tbf, they already gave the base model gold standard and it might not be owned by many people but it's still better to keep it up to date.

@Epsyk

20 күн бұрын

That’s why they build the Firebird. To justify a Gold Standard pass on the Raven. It would never have got to Gold Standard without this solution.

@5000562

20 күн бұрын

@@Epsyk Yeah, and I don't see many people buying the firebird except for the frame. The ship itself is pretty useless thanks to being a missile boat.

@Epsyk

20 күн бұрын

@@5000562 Raven is useless too. 2xS3 and an EMP. There are much better ships that can to almost the same. And I say this as a Raven owner. I fly it very rarely because of this.

@5000562

20 күн бұрын

@@Epsyk Still doesn't change the Firebird being useless lol. I guess if I paid it with my Polaris which is supposed to be able to rearm, it wouldn't be so horrendous, but missiles in SC do just that, miss, all the time.

Cig will remove the spawning as soon as they sold enough Nursa Rover

@reblanium

20 күн бұрын

Honestly, I hope they do. It is going to take a hacksaw to the medical gameplay that is already barely existent.

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

@@reblanium Keep in mind that the "Death of Spaceman" mechanic will mean limited respawns for characters. People are going to have incentives to prefer getting patched up instead of dying. On the other hand, the lack of respawn ability to get back into the fight in a reasonable time means that many players don't bother doing fps missions, due to lack of playtime if things go wrong.

John... I really like the Ursa Medivac... but... you are aware that this 3rd vehicle the people are asking about is the Apollo Medivac... not the Ursa Medivac, right? 😉

so I guess the medical gameplay loop is dead if anyone can just put one of these ursas in the back of their ship to respawn into

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

Keep in mind that "Death of a Spaceman" is still going to be a thing. It will put a limit on the number of respawns a character can have, incentivizing seeking a medic.

The marketing machine continues.

When your medpens are wipe after a patch, they end on Jared's deck - Now you know.

@CitizenScott

20 күн бұрын

And knowing is half the battle

@PerfectCode

20 күн бұрын

They’ve been there before 3.23 released…

@konradsielilo349

20 күн бұрын

@@PerfectCodeit’s a joke

@PerfectCode

20 күн бұрын

@@konradsielilo349 Already known. Is simply a poor joke.

@ap1evideogame44

20 күн бұрын

@@PerfectCode no no, he used those already!

"We have a lot of fighters in the game, but not many that the main focus is missiles. The Talon Shrike is pretty much the main missile based fighter..." *Weeps in Gladiator*

@Smari00

20 күн бұрын

I feel you my guy

@poposterous236

20 күн бұрын

I keep forgetting this ship exists when its been in the game longer than most of the others

@anom794939393

20 күн бұрын

at least they fixed the thruster bug with mm. the issue is now you cant change out the torps and are stuck with the default CS ones. i still fly it a lot but it needs some love, even just making the top turret a remote turret and slaving it to pilot would be an awesome change that would make it compatible with Scorpus.

@ameritoast5174

20 күн бұрын

Exactly what I thought as well. My Gladiator is never going to get any love.

@Gofr5

20 күн бұрын

Heck, even the Ares is a sort of mini missile boat fighter. It has x20 S3 missiles!!! 12 of those are bespoke S3, but the other 8 you can play with. You can do x16 S2 or x4 S4, or if you even feel like it you can turn it in to a mini Harbinger with x2 S5. The focus is always on its big gun, but the Ares is a proper little missile ship in its own right.

"Yeah because that's the one they wanted you to focus on". Jared saying exactly what was in all our minds after John's statement. Never has one line brought my emotions in such a range from "Banu merchantman" YAY to "Ursa rover" ffs seriously?

"Cause that's the one they really wanted you to focus on". Oh! Jared. You can't be replaced.

Freelancer max just became a Carrack

@guynamedmaggi5520

20 күн бұрын

Cheaper and flies better

@rahlap2449

20 күн бұрын

The Andromeda now is a really great all around combat ship and the Tequilla is now a very great exploration ship

@Rockndolls

20 күн бұрын

@@rahlap2449 Tequila was good ?

Thanks for the show. Can't say I'm too excited for these new vehicles. I've never been keen on the idea of missile-focused ships, at least fighter size ones. It doesn't take long to dump those 12 missiles and ... then what? You may as well leave the battle and spend more time and money on restocking for 12 more shots. Meh. As for the medivac Ursa... I guess so, I don't hate it. At least it will provide some use. I personally would have used the Ballista chassis - more room for additional beds, supplies and just a tougher form, especially if these are set to become SC's version of Sunderers from Planetside 2.

@PolarisCaptain

20 күн бұрын

there are like two ships that can carry the atlas chassis (and one of them already has medbay). wouldnt make sense

@bigapestudios9847

20 күн бұрын

if its going to play like the talon, its role will be more a distractionary tool in support of actual dogfighters. as missles inbound will cause the enemies to have to break and avoid etc hopefully swinging the momentum mid dogfight for your wingmen. solo its useless though imo

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

That's perfectly okay. We don't all have to be excited about every ship release. At least you're being normal about it, instead of going "WAAAH I'm not excited about this and that means CIG just slapped me across the face!" This community is ridiculous sometimes.

@uberfu

20 күн бұрын

You're thinking the Spartan ... Not the Ballista. The Spartan is the Atlas transport that would essentially be a larger version of the Ursa .. that could also be converted to a dedicated Med vehicle akin to the Ursa Med+Pisces Med.

Nobody asked for these ships but we still got them. Thanks CIG!

Ok now, where's the Medevac? The REAL Medevac. The APOLLO Medevac.....

People won't stop asking about the BMM unless you finish what you started.

@aylencitasq4275

20 күн бұрын

me who is silently waiting since its first appearance:

@rhadiem

20 күн бұрын

the team that were doing the BMM left a long time ago now btw.

@roguesim

20 күн бұрын

@@rhadiem 99% of BMM owners are fully aware of this.

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

Say they released it tomorrow. Feel better? Still can't do anything with it. Maybe sit in chat and offer tours. Selling those things so early was a huge mistake. Some capital ships will be usable around 4.0/4.X, the BMM will be mostly useless until the game is basically release ready. The BMM isn't a ship, it's a dream of what people hope the game will be. We all hope it will be a game where such a ship fits and is actually playable. But tbh I have doubts...

@jodofe4879

20 күн бұрын

When they have a team available to work on it again of course.

“Yeah, because that’s the one they want you to focus on” ☠️☠️☠️

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

That was hilarious, Jared just knows exactly what to say sometimes. He has an angry little backer troll on one shoulder and a little white knight on the other, and he's pretty good at knowing when to let each of them speak.

2 ships/vehicles that nobody asks for. Really frustrating every time, every year....stop combat-related gameplay.

once again the gladiator is left behind

@rhadiem

20 күн бұрын

Gladiator can do S5's though, iirc. Firebird is max s3's.

@wingren13

20 күн бұрын

@@rhadiem I more mean it just not even being mentioned in terms of 'missile focused fighters' and not getting gold standard when almost everything from back then has had atleast one update

@voodoo22

20 күн бұрын

Gladiator is to ugly

@uberfu

20 күн бұрын

@@rhadiem Gladiator can do S5 BOMBS. The Firebird can do S3 missiles. Hmm ... somebody wasn't paying attention.

@uberfu

20 күн бұрын

@@wingren13 Gladiator = NOT a "missile fighter".

Somehow it feels wrong for a medical vehicle to be mounting a laser turret instead of emergency lights

@PerplexedVet

20 күн бұрын

Same thought. Immediately I was like, That's against the Geneva conventions! It's now a lawful military target. But I guess in the 2900's they have different rules. 😂

@streetmachine8211

20 күн бұрын

This is where this game is going. It's sadly all about pew pew.

@ZenAurora

20 күн бұрын

This does not do exactly what an ambulance does in normal life. this is supposed to be a mobile clinic for combat situations where flashing lights get you unwanted attention (this is purely my thought on this). So, a turret is a better choice to keep the occupants safer. But flashing window lights(top side of the front glass but behind the glass maybe) would be nice that you can turn on/off with a button on the dashboard.

@logicalChimp

20 күн бұрын

This is more inline with the CyberPunk medical response team (forget their name), that come out with heavy-weapons, etc... Geneva conventions and such apply between nations - but criminals almost explicitly don't adhere to such conventions (and we see this even today, unfortunately)

@CathrineMacNiel

20 күн бұрын

@@logicalChimp Trauma Team, and they came to mind when I first saw the Ursambulance.

"Mutual" haha perfect response

How bout get the Connie series gold standard? For the old backers that have been with you since the beginning.

I'm gonna need the screaming chicken on the roof CIG black and gold of course.

@joelellis7035

20 күн бұрын

I'm sorry to say that the Devs said an emphatic "NO!" to the idea. Jared said that he hated him. The Dev implied the feeling was mutual.

@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637

20 күн бұрын

I am actually quite happy that the Nursa is finally here. Time to do some bunkers with it, yey. Now i can use a Carrack, with a C8R Docked and a Medical Ursa in the front. Need as many med beds as i can get..... We kind of have a team on board the Carrack of junkies, that need their drugs

Gold Standard Connie when???

@PlatinumParakeet

20 күн бұрын

God i wish!!! I love my taurus but its so old

@dylan8321

20 күн бұрын

Sameeee

@guynamedmaggi5520

20 күн бұрын

I hear a lot of problems with the interior hear me out, why not let us be able to customize our own interiors so we don't have to wait for them to and we can all have the ships we want.

@patrickmanhattan6518

20 күн бұрын

@@guynamedmaggi5520 implementing that would take another 5 years lmao

finally a new small fighter that nobody asked for, if only there were ships we really wanted...

@alexzuelke5209

20 күн бұрын

im picking one up day one, i love the looks and can't wait to see how it flys

@5000562

20 күн бұрын

@@alexzuelke5209 And how fast it dies lol

@LethargicShaman

20 күн бұрын

@@alexzuelke5209 have fun shooting 6 missiles twice (10 seconds of fun), then retreat for restocking (5-10 mins of downtime). Exciting gameplay right there

This looks like Crusader's take on the Raven. I love it!

I just wanna hear about the 600i rework...hopefully they didn't forget about my baby.

@DeadlySky1

20 күн бұрын

you did its going have a med bed you can respawn at.

I don't care about a bird that is on fire, give us an update on persistent hangers or I'm gonna cry.

one word.... thundercougarfalconbird

Great to see John Crewe back and as John Crewe as ever!

@north_borne

20 күн бұрын

CIGg would be better off firing him.

I hoped the usra would also have nice emergency lights like the cutlass red

@festersmith8352

20 күн бұрын

The only way I would go for this, is if they can be operated separately from the head lights. The constant strobing of those lights in the dark while navigating, would get really old really quick.

@Spelljammer1

20 күн бұрын

I'm so happy it doesn't, especially in the current state of the Cutlass Red that it is tied to the headlights so you have them on even when you do not want to. but if it was a separate button then no harm done. I just think it looks less like a toy without them.

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

Keep in mind that those flashing lights would be a "shoot here to cancel respawns" sign to every flyer within kilometers of the vehicle. Low emissions to make it hard to find and target are it's only real defense in a fight.

wake me up when the avenger is gold standard

@soleenzo893

20 күн бұрын

penguin my beloved

@Holfyy

20 күн бұрын

This is mandatory, but CIG want money so add a variant of a ship sold $4000 on grey market

@TheLoneLlama

20 күн бұрын

RIP

@GothyCakesofficial

20 күн бұрын

Goodnight sweet Prince

@SpaceDad42

20 күн бұрын

Why? It’s a throw away ship.

You know I really miss the post-credit stuff he used to do

@noelsteele

20 күн бұрын

Marketing strangles the life and joy out of everything.

@Ed_Patrick

20 күн бұрын

He still does them, just not in every single episode which is the same as always.

@hangglidingmontana6134

20 күн бұрын

"were real people!"

cig has done a study on which ships sold the most. then combine the characteristics into a fomo sale every quarter with a new ship at one of these events.

The gladiator needs love! One of the coolest stories in game & badass ships that hasn’t been touched in ages. The Black Crows deserved praise & a special paint variant with its gold standard & missile rework.

There goes Career medical rescue might as start learning mining before that is nerved.

@festersmith8352

20 күн бұрын

This kinda bothers me for you med guys. Job made redundant by a machine.

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

@@festersmith8352 Keep in mind that "Death of Spaceman" will mean both limited respawns per character *and* a chance of some injuries persisting beyond the respawn, requiring further medical treatment.

Apollo when? Galaxy when? :)

@fauxtrot2010

20 күн бұрын

Who cares? There’s no point to medical ships now. Current hype for 3.23: 0. Even though I have bought every ‘medical’ ship in the game, there is absolutely no reason to own them now.

@MisterALX

20 күн бұрын

@@fauxtrot2010 , I have them too. Medical gameplay ia just cool for me and it works just fine!

@ValosarX

20 күн бұрын

​@@fauxtrot2010relax, medical gameplay is still at tier -1. Medical ships may still be useful.

@fauxtrot2010

20 күн бұрын

@@ValosarX I get it. I suppose I haven’t been playing long enough (3.16) and this is the first time I’m feeling like this because these are the ships I bought (both ideologically and in jpg). It just feels like this is a step in the wrong direction. Now I know how reclaimer owners must have felt before salvage was released.

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

@@fauxtrot2010 I started in 3.16 too. Didn't know it at the time, but medical gameplay was very new at that point. 3.15 was called "Deadly Consequences," and that's when pretty much all of the medical stuff was added. (Btw, what do you mean these are the ships you bought "ideologically?" As in, you "bought" into the premise of medical gameplay?) Sorry you're not hyped for 3.23. It's easily the best patch I've seen yet. It always feels like "a step in the wrong direction" unless they are 100% focused on the thing that matters most to you personally.

i like how people who pledged hundreds of dollars for decade old unreleased ships are now even a joke to CIG themselves

@1comie

20 күн бұрын

They literally gave us a wambulance

"What did we learn this week? That the BMM won't see the light of day before 1.0 and the medical gameploop is dead."

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

Keep in mind that the medical gameplay will eventually include "Death of Spaceman" mechanics like limited respawns before permadeath and some injuries persisting even after respawns (requiring further medical treatment).

@bnut1979

18 күн бұрын

@@randlebrowne2048 While that is probably a likely facet of SC's gameplay in the future, it doesn't change the fact that current medical gameplay is essentially dead with this change.

@randlebrowne2048

17 күн бұрын

@@bnut1979 To be fair, it was already dead, except for medical gameplay within a group. Very few people were willing to wait 30 minutes, in an incapped state, for someone to fly across the vast distances of space so that they can keep playing. I know that I've never bothered with that system. If I were forced to, I'd probably either quit playing, or avoid all FPS missions.

The Firebird looks very pretty but I doubt it will be of much use until missile and stealth mechanics get to a state where it starts to actually matter in most fights. The Sabre is one of my favorite ships on looks but it just isn't practical, there are better alternatives. Maybe one day when it's supposed "stealth" features actually work.

@redhead9713

20 күн бұрын

ya, missiles kind of suck right now. Shields eat way too much damage from missiles and they don't often disable ships, which is what you would think a missile hitting your main engine would do.

@CitizenScott

20 күн бұрын

Stealth does work rn

@donk8961

20 күн бұрын

Yeah stealth has been largely forgotten or shelved. Maybe now that we got MM they can touch it? Or maybe after ship engineering? Or after pyro? Or after squadron? Yeah I’ve given up on the Sabre until much later.

@donk8961

20 күн бұрын

@@CitizenScott word? Haven’t loaded up since the patch, I’ll test it with my PvP friends n see what’s up.

@CitizenScott

20 күн бұрын

@@donk8961 Havent played 3.23 but stealths been working for a long time yeah. Its just signature reduction basically.

Can we get a paint variant where someone has used spray paint to add the N before where it says ursa on the body? That'd be the only change

@Solar546

20 күн бұрын

that would be a best seller paint

You guys really, REALLY should do an in depth talk on the changing medical beds. This is a massive change in direction and people want to know about the possible future changes and where your heads are on the subject. I called this about 3 years ago and got crucified in the comments for even thinking it lol... But where to from here? Let's call it.... Medical remeasures? 🤔

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

Keep in mind that "Death of a Spaceman" mechanics are still coming. Things like limited numbers of respawns before permadeath and some injuries persisting even after respawns (requiring further treatment, including cybernetic limbs, etc). There will still be a need for medics.

@durtyred86

20 күн бұрын

@randlebrowne2048 which leaves me confused with how angry people are with respawn beds. Medics will still be necessary even with this change. Maybe not for a time but the more they implement, the more we'll need.

Saber Firebird looks fairly cool. I like the vertical stabilizers. Kinda wish the Raven had them as well.

Is anyone else not excited about external entry ships? If I can't walk around inside I don't think of it as a space ship.

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

They are fighters... in a fighter you don't want your cross-section to be any bigger than it needs to be, so you can present the smallest possible target.

@davidrabalais908

20 күн бұрын

@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 that makes sense, it's just not what I'm into.

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

@@davidrabalais908 That's fine

@kingpinda2

20 күн бұрын

@@davidrabalais908 Luckily there are loads of other ships then.

@uberfu

20 күн бұрын

Sooo ... to you none of the fighters are "space ships" despite them being able to go into space (in game of course) ... Are teh ground vehicles that you cannot walk around in not ground vehicles as well ?

Rework your Master mode

When RSI Apollo????

@chomp7927

20 күн бұрын

Doesn't matter now, just buy the rover, it does all the same things and fits in other ships

@ffmichael1764

20 күн бұрын

@@chomp7927 Apollo has Tier 1 bed module so you can use it as spawn point anywhere in the entire system

@hicksbyfunkenflug2768

20 күн бұрын

​​@@chomp7927 But ... Apollo! ;( ^.^

@ffmichael1764

20 күн бұрын

@@chomp7927 The Apollo has Tier 1 medical bed modules so that you can respawn there from anywhere in the system.

@zarsebas

20 күн бұрын

@@ffmichael1764well… they changed it so T3 beds can now respawn you too… yaaaay… unless there’s a big rework they pretty much killed every big medical ship, and I was so excited for the Apollo

Finally!!!!! The gunner seat struts of the Max have gone!!! :D !

very cool with the medic rover, Thank you!

Not a single person asked for an URSA Medivac… we want the Apollo Medivac…

@AccidentalFriendlyFire

20 күн бұрын

Definitely not true.

@little_lord_tam

20 күн бұрын

I genuinly like this medivac

@festersmith8352

20 күн бұрын

I have seen the request at least a couple hundred times over the years. I been wondering and waiting myself.

nursa, meanwhile apollo owners, wondering where thire medical ship is

@BizzMRK

20 күн бұрын

honestly I would rather have them release the Apollo alongside proper medical gameplay rather than just slapping it into the game as another glorified respawn point.

@johnnyblue07

20 күн бұрын

@@BizzMRK Like making the Herald flight ready without none of its gameplay loops. Yeah, I'd rather they wait til Data Running v.0 is working.

@MMORPG87

20 күн бұрын

no point in owning an apollo now that u revive from anything. i feel bad for all the owners

@MMORPG87

20 күн бұрын

@@BizzMRK what gameplay they just killed it with this rework of medbeds

@BizzMRK

20 күн бұрын

@@MMORPG87 because we are still lacking any proper medical gameplay in the first place like the (medical) supplies which are supposed to be consumed when respawning or healing on ships which would be heaviely limited on something like a C8R or Nursa compared to a Galaxy clinic or Apollo as well as the whole death of a spaceman mechanic that would prevent people from just backspacing to reset their T2 and T1 injuries and respawn in a t3 bed instead of using an appropriate beds. Even if they didn't make the T3 change if they added the Apollo or (medical) Galaxy right now they would be nothing more than yet another respawn point like the Carrack lacking any of their intended mechanics or gameplay.

I, for one, am impressed that they did a pass on the Freelancer without breaking it further.. x'D (you still get stuck in the beds, though)

I only learned that the question for the merchantman and endavor is still not answered :D

I love high-tech ships like that so much! But why 12 s3 missiles? You can't really kill anything with it, or has that changed now?

@OdysseyGamingOfficial

20 күн бұрын

Missiles are crazy buffed now, one or two missiles can pretty much take out a light fighter

@_Saracen_

20 күн бұрын

Unless the target isn't moving and doesn't launch flares and counter-measures then nope, it's kinda useless in the current state of the game. I often wonder if these dev's actually play the game they're working on. Pretty cool ship for the future though, love the look of it. Maybe one day it will have it's place.

@Banzai51

20 күн бұрын

@@OdysseyGamingOfficial But can they hit a fighter? That's always been a problem.

Pretty big gun'o'healing on top that amberlamps I say.

the Saber Raven, because of its exclusive nature it never really peaked in popularity.... So the real solution is to get intel to redo the contract with another, affordable, item. New item + updated Raven = New Raven Owners. Problem solved. BTW, I was not around when the Raven was introduced. When I got here to promo was over. I suspect many of us are in this boat.

I lost it @7:10 lmao 🤣 "ya cuz thats the one they wanted you to focus on" he aint lying

Backspacing is the new gold standard in medical gameplay (which essentially kills medical gameplay). There is absolutely no reason to have bigger ships for medical, there’s no reason to treat an injury, and there is no real penalty for death. Would love to know the plan CIG. We have some great ships for doing medical, but I can no longer imagine why we would need them.

@Shdow44

20 күн бұрын

Plan is to make sales for the medical Ursa, wait for a couple of months and then give medical gameplay another “overhaul” once sales die down >.>

@fauxtrot2010

20 күн бұрын

@@Shdow44 I hope so

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

You're forgetting about "Death of a Spaceman". Once it comes in, characters will have limited numbers of respawns before perma-death; and, some injuries will persist even after respawning (requiring further medical treatment). This has always been been the plan.

Every year, SC ground gameplay gets closer to being Planetside 3. Now we have a Sunderer, I guess.

@logicalChimp

20 күн бұрын

But without the equipment-terminals to swap your loadout :p (well, it's got space for a couple of weapons, but if you're dragging someone back, better make sure to snag their weapon too).

@SuperlunarNim

20 күн бұрын

Yep, basically everything people funded it directly NOT to be. It's depressing.

@logicalChimp

20 күн бұрын

@@SuperlunarNim I wouldn't go that far... but I do think it would 'fit' better if it were just able to 'resurrect' people, rather than clone them a new body, etc...

I like how there’s a visual difference between the in game older Aegis ships and the more modern offerings. Hope that is retained as the older ships get update passes.

Here are the changes i think will help medical gameplay especially with the medivac: 1. you need some kind of resource you respawn a human, like dna culture or a human goop that you can buy 2. the only way to respawn someone is if the medivac is currently in use by someone on a panel who can see incoming regeneration pings 3. The job of the medic is to get alerts on their panel/computer while in operation so they can receive alerts while driving and are able to manually revive someone currently in a revive queue that you can accept, and there should be someone kind of mini game to respawn them, balancing the amount of dna or matter thats being produced to keep the regen meter in a green state or else regeneration fails and the player is sent to a hospital instead 4.Also for the medics to receive a viable income they will receive payment upon successful regeneration of player or squad mate ,and you are able to regenerate your party members, and see regen queues that are within your ping distance and can accept them. I think this will offer compensation for use of tier 3 beds without being op via requiring someone to generate the body manually, and give medics a critical role in a battle, like mechanics

As a Raven owner I'm glad to see the rework and that they kept the exclusivity. Do agree that other ships probably should have had priority in getting them up to gold standard though. There are more than a few that a ton of people own that could use some love like the Cutlass and Connie. Then again gotta drive those ships sales...

@scribblescrabble3185

20 күн бұрын

yeah, the Cutlass needs some VTOL engines on those front wings, without it will never end up in my hangar. I just don't trust its special physics licence.

That intel deal was a terrible idea

@PerplexedVet

20 күн бұрын

Yeah they definitely scoured the contract and came up with, well it doesn't say we can't make another vehicle that looks almost like it? 😂 I'll still get it though probably.

@5000562

20 күн бұрын

@@PerplexedVet While I want to buy it, I'll likely just buy a CCU as I hate the fact they wasted a nice design on a horrible missile platform. Wish they'd just do another deal with intel to bring the raven back up and out for more, if it really has to be exclusive to the deal.

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

@@PerplexedVet They've already done something similar with the AMD exclusive racing variant of the Mustang. They made a second, non-exclusive, racing variant for everyone else.

BMM, Polaris, Perseus, Apollo, Endevor there are many ships we want and i personly flew a c2 with a P8R to have a tier 3 bed with me so i didn' really need a medivac but ok a driveable it is now!

Crusader needs an H2 variant for the Med Ursa. Little mobile hospital opp before Endeavor

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

And a troopship version with palletized seats in the cargo hold (along with added life support).

It's really cute that you think anyone is going to bother with treatment when respawns are currently free *and* bypass injury tiers

@barrybarry8564

20 күн бұрын

I backspaced myself just last night because the game wasn't letting me drink water lol

@danyagamingone

20 күн бұрын

Good point man

@randlebrowne2048

20 күн бұрын

"Death of a Spaceman" is still coming. It will limit respawns before permadeath; and, certain injuries will persist even after respawn (requiring further treatment).

Changing the T3 bed to a respawn is a bad choice imo...

@MaugriMGER

20 күн бұрын

Yeah. Thats my opinion too. Will kill most big medical ships

@n0vast0rm

20 күн бұрын

Like someone else mentioned, if it took resources to respawn someone there would be less of an issue, where T3 bed might need more of the resource, while also usually being in a smaller vehicle so less space for the resource, would make it so you can maybe respawn there 3 times vs a Carrack with a T2 bed and lots of storage that can be allocated to the respawn resource (at the expense of less space for other cargo) so you can respawn there 50 times, or whatever.

@chomp7927

20 күн бұрын

@@n0vast0rm IF and thats a big IF right now, but IF the other med ships are even going to be worth anything the Ursa needs it's range cut down to 2k or less, preferably 1k. 20k is pure bullshit. When's the last time you were on foot more than 12.5 miles away from your ship or vehicle? Never. As it stands now this has 100% killed the bigger med ships, just get an ursa or C8R and never need anything again.

@n0vast0rm

20 күн бұрын

@@chomp7927 It's not even a question that this will be rebalanced at least once but even more probable many times before the game is done...never understood the knee-jerk reaction to most things introduced into this alpha...of course "as it stands now" this makes medical ships worthless, but that doesn't mean I'm melting my Apollo that isn't even in the game yet because I think this is never getting changed again...if you've been around long enough you know that you used to be able to spawn in the Cutlass Red, then you couldn't, now you will be able to again, and next year it might be different again...

@LordAzuren

20 күн бұрын

@@n0vast0rm the problem is that there were people enjoying medical gameplay even now and this totally destroyed their gameplay loop. We had stil lot of issues with few medical beacons, risk of getting ganked, average waiting time too long and such, now the gameplay loop doesn't even exist anymore, people will backspace even just to avoid walking inside their ship. What medical gameplay needed was increasing consequences for deaths, a rep system so people could know if who created it or the medic responding is reliable or it's a trap and a new UI process where the person that was asking help could choice how much money offer to medics and more importantly could refuse a medic accepting the beacon depending on the distance... most people tried do use med beacons but stopped once they discovered that often the medic accepting it is on the other side of the system and they would wait 10+ minutes to get healed... These are the main issues with the medical gameplay, not the T3 medbed respawning people without limits (20km is a joke, could have made any sense if it was 1-2km)...

Never thought I'd see the raven get love, awesome!

It looks really cool how the Firebird's missiles are working and releasing the ship along the Raven goldpass was a good idea. Otherwise it would have been weird to have a goldpass for the few people having a Raven, but now everyone enjoying that awesome design may benefit from it.

Where's my zeus

@GreatWolfBalistic

20 күн бұрын

They said last year citizen con release

@spaceman112211

20 күн бұрын

it's scheduled for 4.0 later this (I hope) year

@CaptEirikr

20 күн бұрын

Just made it onto the roadmap, slated for Q3 4.0 release.

Smokey and the Bandit paint. We need it. Black and Gold.

@Falcon75066

20 күн бұрын

As someone who owns a bandit trans am. I was smiling ear to ear hearing that

Their definition of a brand new ship is wild. Edit: I see now lol they're trying to shaft intels exclusivity contract with the raven.

Love the ramp jump!!! So any special medical Theme armor :) && they got the side door working !!!

Love the Nursa! Don't understand the Firebird only having 12 size 3 missiles if it's supposed to be a missile based ship though, even the smaller Shrike that was mentioned has 24 size 3's???

@CathrineMacNiel

20 күн бұрын

even the Reliant Tana has more missiles than that. (20x s2)

@MaugriMGER

20 күн бұрын

But the shrike only has size two hardpoints

I would love the Firebird if it had a conventional internal weapons bay. The bespoke one just takes away so much current and future utility

@Feokian

20 күн бұрын

Very much agreed... if you could go from 3 s5 to 48 s1, I would buy it in a heartbeat... but 12 s3 where you offload half your payload in one burst seems poorly done.

@PerplexedVet

20 күн бұрын

You don't shoot half at once. They changed the rules so you can spool up to 6 if you want to. I still agree that 12 is too few for a main weapon though.

@Gofr5

20 күн бұрын

Especially when you have something like the Ares, that on top of its massive gun (though currently horrendously nerfed and useless on both variants) has x20 S3 missiles. 12 of them are besoke, but the other 8 can played around with to use more or less smaller or larger size missiles. It's more of a missile boat than the Firebird. If I want a missile focused fighter, I'd pick both the Ares and Talon Shrike over the Firebird personally. I guess it's cool the Firebird can blow 6 missiles at a time though if wanted. It does also look cool.

@Epsyk

20 күн бұрын

@@Gofr5the ares isn’t useless, it just fits in its role now. Hammerhead and bigger are its targets.

@Gofr5

20 күн бұрын

@@Epsyk Except it can't kill those targets now. The Ion is incapable of downing a S3 shield, even when using its charged shots as the shield regens back fully before the Ion can fire again; and an Inferno can barely deal any damage right now even after unloading its entire clip. Useless, the both of them.

you should be given the option to spawn at your default location from the death screen. On top of that, there should be a cool down timer on medbeds you have recently spawned on and that timer should get longer when used in succession. it should get to a point where it's like "do i wait 10 minutes to spawn on my carrack for the 5th time in a row or give up and spawn instantly at hurston" or something to that effect.

Jared called it. We did not want the vehicle team to focus on the Bearbulance.

@logicalChimp

20 күн бұрын

True... but the Nursa is looking pretty cool (and would probably be my preferred Ursa variant to take with my Constellation)

@donk8961

20 күн бұрын

@@logicalChimpConnie boys rejoice we can do medical now

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

Thing is, the Nursa didn't take much "focus" at all. It's exactly the kind of little project they give to new people so they can get acclimated. Probably took no more than 1 month for 1 person to do. Wouldn't be surprised if it was two weeks. It's not like you have the Apollo (or worse, BMM) on one hand, Nursa on the other, and these are equivalent projects because they are both "medical vehicles."

10:10 Casually mentions regeneration rework while talking about a vehicle no one really wanted.

So wheres Apollo medical ship?

Amazing sale concept, im amazed. I like.

So and now... Where is my Merchantman?😢

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

Good news! I've just heard they are going to release it tomorrow. Still can't do anything with it, but at least people can stop asking about it.

i don't think 2 volleys of missiles is enough for a missile-dedicated fighter

@LordAzuren

20 күн бұрын

Honeslty i love the look and the concept of the firebird but i have the same concern. The 24 missiles of the talon are already kinda borderline, having only two volleys before having to restock feels quite bad. It could work for ships like the eclipse because they usually targets fat big ships that can't evade too easily the missiles and the S9 torpedos hits like a truck but good luck into hitting even a third of the missiles of the firebird against a equally sized ship. Maybe if/when CIG will fix missiles it could be a decent ship (but why not the talon shrike at that point?) but rn is not good looking balancing wise.

Wake me up when they'll release the bmm

"talon shrike is the only missile based fighter" excuse me, did we forget the Reliant Tana exists? The firebird looks alright, but as long as missiles are the way they are, it's not currently worth getting. But the fact they're reworking launch amount is a step back in the right direction.

@K4Khyron

20 күн бұрын

Fury MX also

Wait! so Medical Player Rescue is now pointless as a career cheers CIG!

@AccidentalFriendlyFire

20 күн бұрын

Hasn't changed.

@xxCrimsonSpiritxx

20 күн бұрын

Exactly, medical gameplay is honestly horrendous in this game! All that "grab" animation is completely useless, just die and respawn, much faster

@realmwatters2977

20 күн бұрын

@@AccidentalFriendlyFire Why call for medical rescue, hey just back space and be in the game faster no waiting for medical player rescue! NOW BACKSPACE TO A CUTTY RED, PIESESE, OR A ROVER!. What they should done is add more medical hospitals and clinics to the distribution centres, mini medical medevacs to outposts leave the respawn at landing zones and clinics at s#ace Stations, and remove meddy guns for none medical personnel, really only on med pens, and for industrial like ming and salvaging use the pyro quality tool medical attachment as well as the medy pens, so only trained medical rescue can use med gun, and make it more skill full remove the auto feature on the media gun so must know what drugs quantyies of drugs you must understand for each patient.

Any word on when the cutlass is getting a gold standard pass? It's such a popular ship you'd think it would have been one of the first.

@Cetrakh

20 күн бұрын

They already sold the cutlass no chance of happening soon

@guynamedmaggi5520

20 күн бұрын

@@Cetrakh Why is that now the reason of gold passes😔

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

@@Cetrakh Ah yes, flawless logic... made entirely of flaws. All of the current gold standard ships were sold LONG before they got a gold pass. It has nothing to do with when they were sold. But don't let a few pesky facts get in the way of your cynical whinging...

@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145

20 күн бұрын

@@guynamedmaggi5520 It's not.

Thank you, Jared, for providing the on-site snark that we would want you to. Now tell them to modernize and rebalance my F7C-R please.

Patience is a virtue :P Looking forward to more ship news. 🖖

How are they gold standarding everything but what they said they would do? The 600i has been waiting for 2 years

@StormEagle5

20 күн бұрын

To be fair, when they do work on one manufacturer for a new ship, it is easy to take those designs and apply them more quickly to smaller ships of that same manufacturer. See Hull C and A, and the freelancer updates. But I've also long been waiting to see what the 600i and Connie will be like.

@GARL0CK

20 күн бұрын

They're also reworking the 600i

@boomrr07

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, they announced it 2 years ago and haven’t worked on it at all yet.

@boomrr07

20 күн бұрын

Yeah I know hey do that, but the fact that they actually showed off the rework and then shelved it is what makes me feel weird. It’s like the bmm.

@GARL0CK

20 күн бұрын

@@boomrr07 Yeah. I can see that for sure. 3 main ships I want to fly are the 600i touring, the Legionaire and the Apollo Triage. They've shelved every one of them. It is what it is. The most unique ships require the most unique tech. It's why I've made my peace with the Apollo. We don't have drones yet. SO finish that, and in the meantime, I'll park an Ursa in the back of my MSR.