Inside a faulty Puripod ozone generator.

Ғылым және технология

I bought this unit thinking it was an air ioniser, mainly because most of the listings advertise it as one. It's not. It's an ozone generator and uses a high frequency AC corona discharge to generate ozone in the air being blown through the unit by a fan.
The illusion of being an ioniser was aided by a marketing video which showed it clearing smoke in a closed chamber, a popular demonstration with real ionisers due to rapid electrostatic precipitation of dust and smoke onto surrounding surfaces. It's notable that the video showing it had to jump-cut to allow the smoke to dissipate naturally, as an ozone generator does not precipitate out smoke and dust. It's main function is to oxidise airborne contaminants like smells and bacteria.
The unit is actually quite nicely designed, and has good filtering to comply with European electrical interference suppression requirements. The circuit is good quality, including the very nice potted high voltage transformer which probably shares a pedigree with cold cathode backlighting power supplies.
It has an odd quirk. The ozone level adjustment knob has a switch at the end of travel that turns off the fan, but the ozone generator remains active at a low level. It might be as an option for low level operation with no fan noise, but will result in a high concentration of ozone inside the unit.
Although new and sealed, this unit has clearly had a very rough experience at some point. Several copper pads had detached from the PCB in the area of the suppression circuitry and the common mode inductor had a shattered core. This was resulting in an arcing noise and intermittent operation. It's something to keep in mind if you get a unit that doesn't light up when plugged in. If you open one of these, take care to dress the wires inside away from the high voltage circuitry in the middle when closing it again.
In summary. It's not an ioniser/ionizer, it's an ozone generator. It looks neat, it's seems to be well designed and it does work as a low level ozone generator.
Power consumption is:-
1.5W in standby with no fan.
2.3W at the lowest setting with fan.
2.6W at the highest setting with fan.
Power factor is a rather poor 0.066 standby to 0.13 at full output according to the Hopi meter. (Some smart meters will charge up to 10 times as much if set to measure apparent power.)
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  • @mikerhodes9198
    @mikerhodes91985 жыл бұрын

    Your are one of my comfort KZread channels. Always look forward to seeing your electric adventures and the occasional bang and fire. Thank you.

  • @tahirsutube

    @tahirsutube

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too! Big Clive has a very calming voice.

  • @ADR69

    @ADR69

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. This dude could read horoscopes and I'd be interested

  • @jeremytravis360

    @jeremytravis360

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes he part of my daily regime. I don't turn on the TV any more.

  • @chrisbleurgh7425

    @chrisbleurgh7425

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's got such a sexy voice, but not in a sexual way, just aurally. Does that makes sense?

  • @generaldisarray
    @generaldisarray3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, as always. You'd think they'd either have a separate switch on it, for the mains, or, as you said, route it through the potentiometer switch. I have a couple of these, so in the sprit of this channel, I drilled a hole in the case, opposite to the potentiometer and fitted a nice little round white 3 amp switch to the live feed from the plug so I can turn the whole unit off without having to unplug it. The live feed wire is just long enough that you can cut it, strip the ends, and solder it to the switch terminals, and if you drill the hole so it's halfway in the front and the back of the case you can pop it out if you need to access the internals in the future...

  • @therealchayd
    @therealchayd5 жыл бұрын

    Only Big Clive would claim to have a "Stunt Oscilloscope" lol

  • @michaelfisher9671
    @michaelfisher96715 жыл бұрын

    Clive splitting atoms rather than molecules would be somewhat... dramatic!

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Given the noise this thing was making, I think it was about to split an atom.

  • @Bready_Player_Bun

    @Bready_Player_Bun

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Fission Health Regime Doctors Don't Want You To Know!

  • @GLITCH_-.-

    @GLITCH_-.-

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just buy a chunk or uranium ore on eBay and watch it doing its spontaneous fission. It does that. It's a part of its natural decay. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_fission It's quite fun to collect radioactive things, actually.

  • @robertgaines-tulsa

    @robertgaines-tulsa

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always worried that Photonicinduction would try that.

  • @theandnewman

    @theandnewman

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Dave Micolichek Google Richard Handl, he tried to make his own nuclear reactor in his kitchen, that wasn't popular with the authority

  • @aviandragon1390
    @aviandragon13905 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoyed your videos but I've been away for some time. I'm delighted to see that you're spending even more time breaking down circuits and explaining things in newer videos. I always learn something watching you tinker. Thank you.

  • @chrischeltenham
    @chrischeltenham5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Clive, thanks for getting this in and checking it out so quickly after I mentioned it. The video you seen was the one I did with the smoke and it did seems a bit iffy when I watched it and yours is much better with real information. I did end up buying two of these and both were slightly different as one made loads of noise and the other very quiet so I think manufacturing might be a bit hit and miss. Those green LED's are so bright in a dark room I put tape over them but wasn't sure if there was a reason behind them but after your video, I'm guessing not. The smell is very difficult to describe but the smell after a thunderstorm as they claim is almost right but not exactly it. I personally didn't mind the smell at first but after a couple of days, I couldn't deal with it anymore so unplugged them both. It's a bit naughty the company claim it to be an ionizer though as that's what I wanted to try out. I will keep my eyes open for other things like this you might fancy taking to bits. Thanks for the video :)

  • @johnrobinson357
    @johnrobinson3575 жыл бұрын

    Being a ham radio guy, when i hear arcing it is always a bad thing. With high power RF amplifiers - tube type, if it arcs it also goes bang LOUDLY! I don't get the benefit of ozone, only smoke and if it's a really big failure - fire. Lots of fun for all when the smoke alarms go off at 2 am. John blew up his transmitter again - yay!

  • @ethanpoole3443

    @ethanpoole3443

    5 жыл бұрын

    Surely you’re not suggesting that 3,000V at 1A could possibly get exciting? :-)

  • @johnrobinson357

    @johnrobinson357

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ethanpoole3443 I got an old eto alpha 3cx1500 amp at a ham fester. Guy said it worked but needed some tlc. $200 i took it home. yes it worked fine - ish. After testing it i was happy, left it for a day and a half or so. I played it smart and discharged the HV cap and wham! One of my fingers was on the screwdriver shaft. Threw me against the wall and i broke my left index finger. Always replace the discharge resistors - always. 1 st and last time that happened to me. Truth be told i do not remember what i broke, i just remember the flash the wall and being on the floor. I was 22 so a long time ago - early 80's. I have a very healthy respect for high voltage - from then on. To see it is fine, when you see and taste it a lifetime lesson has been learned. Nope, no excitement at tall.

  • @benwinkel

    @benwinkel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Being a ham, period.(couldn't resist)

  • @johnrobinson357

    @johnrobinson357

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@benwinkel After a few adult beverages. Like tonight, the ham part does come out.

  • @benwinkel

    @benwinkel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@johnrobinson357 Lol! I can relate to that. =)

  • @maicod
    @maicod5 жыл бұрын

    this faulty one produced double ozone, at the intended tube and at the faulty sparky joint :)

  • @maximilianraab18

    @maximilianraab18

    5 жыл бұрын

    They could market the faulty units as "premium efficiency units"

  • @__WJK__

    @__WJK__

    5 жыл бұрын

    2x the ozone output, with bonus toxic solder ions free of charge and all for the same price!

  • @jason-ge5nr

    @jason-ge5nr

    5 жыл бұрын

    you're not wrong

  • @gcewing

    @gcewing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unless it's using lead-free solder, for non-toxic solder ions.

  • @__WJK__

    @__WJK__

    5 жыл бұрын

    Greg Ewing - Exactly! Given China's track record, hopefully the solder is on the level, especially considering the device will certainly be used around people and pets...

  • @JohnGotts
    @JohnGotts5 жыл бұрын

    Oxozone (O4) definitely does exist. Oxozone is also called tetraoxygen. Oxygen can exist as O₈ at 10 GPa. The latter form is called red oxygen or ε oxygen.

  • @pvc988
    @pvc9885 жыл бұрын

    I once had CRT TV that had ozone generator built in :) Isolation on anode suction cup was bad and you could see and hear corona discharge around it. You could smell ozone in whole room after about 5 minutes of that TV running.

  • @God-CDXX
    @God-CDXX5 жыл бұрын

    and the Stunt Oscilloscope steps up to the bench and tries it's luck with Big Clive

  • @bluephreakr

    @bluephreakr

    5 жыл бұрын

    Osci be stuntin' yo.

  • @zaneortman2978

    @zaneortman2978

    5 жыл бұрын

    One needs to go on the green healing mat

  • @Magneticitist
    @Magneticitist4 жыл бұрын

    Those tiny HV transformers are pretty sweet. I've gotten some of them to kick out arcs longer than a couple CM before burning out and it takes very little power driven with pulsed DC at the right frequency and duty cycle. Sometimes I find similar ones in LCD monitors.

  • @Malakie
    @Malakie5 жыл бұрын

    When I hear arcing... my first step is to plug it in once opened, and look for arcing. 100% resolution to the problem each and every time I have come across that.

  • @johnprem2589
    @johnprem25895 жыл бұрын

    You are a god. Your vids should be watched at universities all over the world.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm definitely not a god, but my videos ARE watched at educational establishments around the world. And with my full approval.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson5 жыл бұрын

    Ozone is indeed a fantastic odor killer. Years ago, we had a spare squad car that resided in the old Fire Hall. It was a late 70's Chevy with a huge engine and could catch anything on the road but burned tremendous amounts of gas so we were discouraged from using it unless the regular car was down for maintenance. Well one night a new cop on the force decided to take the old beast out for a shift, and during the shift he had to kill a skunk which was thought to be rabid. Policy says you kill a rabid skunk, you deliver it to the local Vet for testing. Well the fellow had a nice shift and got to try out that huge engine in a high speed chase, during which he forgot that he had that damn dead skunk in the trunk of the car, tied up in a plastic garbage bag. So at the end of his shift, he put the old car back in the Fire Hall and neglected to notify the oncoming officer of the skunk. Several weeks later, the decomp of the skunk burst the plastic bag, and the scent of that dead decomposing skunk infiltrated from the fire hall into old City Hall which was still in full use, and the odor got so bad that the on duty officer went to instigate. When he opened the trunk the smell of his vomit mixed with that of the dead skunk. The car was removed from the fire hall and the skunk delivered to the vet who immediately disposed of it because no testing could be done after the length of time. We called a local cleaning service, they brought over a rather large ozone generator and placed it in the front seat of the car which had been parked back in the fire hall. After 24 hours you could go back in the fire hall, and in fact drive the squad car with no trace of the skunk. Now that's a cleaning service!

  • @PaulMcGeeM0WNU
    @PaulMcGeeM0WNU Жыл бұрын

    Afternoon Clive, came across these being sold in my local B&M Home Store under the Blaupunkt brand for a tenner, and bought it knowing full well what it was having watched this video in the past, the manual hints at its operation as an ozone generator but mentions negative ions and the basic operation of an ioniser, which this certainly is not, in the manual. Couple of hours running in the bedroom and it freshened it up some, and after unplugging it a distinct ozone smell on the output. Shining a torch inside the coloured plastic in front of the LEDs and through the fan grille on the back it looks to be pretty much unchanged circuit wise, I haven't had it apart though to investigate further but I cannot see it being different inside to this Puripod one you looked at.

  • @timsjourney
    @timsjourney5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent brief description of ozone creation and purpose. It took two days in organic chemistry 201.

  • @Mr.Unacceptable
    @Mr.Unacceptable5 жыл бұрын

    I just got a mini oscilloscope myself because I don't have a real one and I only need the basic operation of this little one. I found it works great. I can see I'll need a real one soon enough.

  • @ZeroPointAlpha
    @ZeroPointAlpha5 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me a bit of the Reme air purifiers we used to install at an old job I worked at, our salesman claimed it was some super high-tech catalytic air purifier, but I could tell just from the design of it, combined with the odor it put off, that it was an ozone generator, but it is also coupled with a small UV bulb.

  • @paulEG6
    @paulEG65 жыл бұрын

    The toilets at par market in Cornwall still have ozone generators, that lovely bleachy aroma hits you in the nostrils as soon as you walk in there

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are they stainless steel units with vents at one end?

  • @LukeRT
    @LukeRT5 жыл бұрын

    You should take a look at some of the sonoff products be nice to see some tear down,testing and thoughts

  • @ytSuns26
    @ytSuns264 жыл бұрын

    My buddy has a large ozone generator aimed at his face while he works out on his treadmill. He has done it for years. Not dead yet. The output of that unit is high and intense.

  • @tonynicholson4227
    @tonynicholson42275 жыл бұрын

    Now I am reminded of visits to the Ozone, a pub by the sea in North New Brighton, Christchurch, New Zealand, not sure if it was the ozone or the attack of the cider monster, it would often leave me with a headache...

  • @pjaj43
    @pjaj435 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you were right Clive, ordinary atmospheric oxygen is two atoms of oxygen joined together, O2, to form a molecule. Ozone is 3 atoms in one molecule, O3.

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet20265 жыл бұрын

    A nice source for those high voltage transformers and generators are older LCD monitors with CFL lamps in them. For potentially sparky fun :-)

  • @SeanBZA

    @SeanBZA

    5 жыл бұрын

    Those are repurposed LCD backlight transformers, but these are not diode split, just the segmented windings is done to reduce interwinding capacitance, as the sections have a lowish voltage between them, and a very low capacitance, so the losses in the transformer from circulating currents are a lot lower. Also allows the transformer to have each segment act as a LC tank to build up the voltage in each section for a higher output than the one expected from turns ratio, as they are all series LC oscillators added together, giving the very high voltage to start the CCFL tube when cold, but then as the tube starts the ionised gas inside puts a load across the transformer and this then kills the resonance on the steep edges, leaving the voltage being just turns related again mostly. Makes it easy to control the wide voltage swings of a CCFL tube for starting and the requirement for current drive when running with simpler primary side only sensing and almost no high voltage components aside from some ceramic capacitors and resistors.

  • @nohandle1

    @nohandle1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SeanBZA thanks for sharing! Interesting

  • @Chuckiele

    @Chuckiele

    5 жыл бұрын

    I prefer CRT monitors for that ;)

  • @benbaselet2026

    @benbaselet2026

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Chuckiele Just use them as "preamps" to feed a couple microwawe oven transformers in series and you'll enjoy megavolts in no time! (be sure to livestream the event)

  • @Chuckiele

    @Chuckiele

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@benbaselet2026 Nah, Im not touching MOTs, they are stupidly dangerous.

  • @Shaun.Stephens
    @Shaun.Stephens5 жыл бұрын

    Wot no shot of it running and the corona? I want my money back! ;-)

  • @IncertusetNescio
    @IncertusetNescio5 жыл бұрын

    The way that Wikipedia has updated my knowledge of ozone is that it is O2 that has been electrically split into free Oxygen atoms which promptly bounce into an O2 molecule, glomming onto it producing ozone (O3), which is unstable. They bounce into other stuff as they float around waiting to stabilize and occasionally bounce into contaminants or solid objects like metals and react with them, usually enthusiastically to try and get rid of the 3rd Oxygen atom.

  • @drteeth7054

    @drteeth7054

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ozone molecules are not sentient :-)))).

  • @alessandroceloria

    @alessandroceloria

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't get it... Is ozone flammable? Because I've heard stories of catastrophic explosions in ozone rich environments due to an unexpected spark, but a quick search seems to suggest ozone is not flammable...

  • @YTANDY100

    @YTANDY100

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alessandroceloria ozone is made by sparks on (some) electric motor brushes but not so much that it will build up a lot :-) and oxygen isnt flammable it allows flammable things burn , dont know about ozone though :-)

  • @brzydka_i_bestia
    @brzydka_i_bestia5 жыл бұрын

    You have disassembled a similar unit some time ago and it also had a 555 in it, seems like a standard.

  • @ADR69
    @ADR695 жыл бұрын

    Atom is technically correct but oxygen needs an electron so it's rarely by itself so you'll see it as a molecule 90% of the time.

  • @noakeswalker
    @noakeswalker5 жыл бұрын

    The rf interference from that corona tube - oooft ! Yup, if I had a Keysight scope, I'd not want to put it in the same room as that device, let alone connect to it :o)

  • @DIMTips
    @DIMTips5 жыл бұрын

    The good old 555👍

  • @Chuckiele

    @Chuckiele

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @gavincurtis
    @gavincurtis5 жыл бұрын

    Built like a HP printer. Where is the eeprom with the hour count so it shuts down after a certain time?

  • @imark7777777

    @imark7777777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is that why I have a stack of HP printers in my basement from people waiting to be "recycled" the BigClive way...

  • @bigblockelectra

    @bigblockelectra

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are you going to upload any more cs-80 repair videos?

  • @gavincurtis

    @gavincurtis

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi bigblockelectra. Probably not due to the BS with the youtube environment. I pulled all my videos and was going to try bitchite, but PayPal stopped supporting bitchute.

  • @jamh1998

    @jamh1998

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gavincurtis not a clue who you are but alot of channels are using Bitchute in combination with subcribestar might be something to look into

  • @markb4071
    @markb40714 жыл бұрын

    I bought one of these, based on this video - use it near where the dog sleeps. Worked a treat for a few weeks, now doesn't seem to generate any ozone anymore :o(

  • @FinnRenard
    @FinnRenard5 жыл бұрын

    Jacuzzis will either have a UV light or an ozone generator to keep it clean. It's widely used in hospitals. Restaurants can use ozone generators in walk in refrigerators. I have built a couple myself for odeur removal in ie cars as it will neutralize both cigarette and wet dog smell very effectively. Of course, it will accelerate oxidisation. Another great use is in water damaged basements to kill of mold etc. Very useful for loads of things. This generator probably produces less than 50 mg/hour, whereas a generator for odeur removals for cars should generate at least 5-6 gr/hour for DIY and 30 gr/hour for commercial use.

  • @3v1Bunny
    @3v1Bunny5 жыл бұрын

    the none ground referenced (don't care if it gets f'ed) little scope. Very handy for these things.

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh5 жыл бұрын

    14:25 Depending on the position of the coils relative to each other, it could be that the designers required 'mutual inductance' in the circuit. This inductor may take the place of a protection diode not seen here often found in these circuits to protect the MOSFET.

  • @hotdrippyglass
    @hotdrippyglass5 жыл бұрын

    I would greatly appreciate a video about the variety of oscilloscope display devices you have access to from the cheapest functional units to the really spendy units. I stopped using them when I left the US Navy back in 1993 and I am sure that anything I used then would have capacitors that will have aged out of spec by now. All of the more recent models will be microprocessor based these days and the costs are going to be all over the map. Nice work on your vids BTW.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    They've evolved massively over the past few years. The pocket ones are actually very versatile.

  • @LutzSchafer
    @LutzSchafer2 ай бұрын

    A small general remark regarding Zener diodes. In university we were taught to just call them z-diodes. The reason being is that the Zener effect (tunneling) is only true up until around 6V. Diodes rated higher are using the avalanche effect and therefore can not be called Zener diodes...

  • @ColinJonesPonder
    @ColinJonesPonder5 жыл бұрын

    The most effective ozone generator I've ever seen was the original ZX printer ;)

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the arc stylus whizzing over the metalised paper.

  • @ColinJonesPonder

    @ColinJonesPonder

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's the one :D

  • @Kudos1799

    @Kudos1799

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom Plasma Globes also generate ozone. Perhaps not good for a child's bedroom.

  • @techmantra4521
    @techmantra45215 жыл бұрын

    Ozone is my favourite kind of air.

  • @amindnew527
    @amindnew5274 жыл бұрын

    I have a negative ion generator that also makes O3, i know it produces tons of static via high volts / low amps, but it uses a small sewing needle as its means of discharge, outside of its case. I would love to see you explore waveforms of a synthesizer via your banGGood pocket oscilliscope, you may not need to dismantle it BUT it would be gr8 if u did!!!

  • @SigEpBlue
    @SigEpBlue5 жыл бұрын

    I could tell this was going to be one of those "interesting" tear-downs as soon as you had it open, and I saw the cock-eyed TO-220 package. :)

  • @nejiniisan1265
    @nejiniisan12655 жыл бұрын

    I believe that the inductor is mainly to decouple the high frequency side from the supply.

  • @pierreuntel1970
    @pierreuntel19705 жыл бұрын

    I actually liked the smell of ozone, it smells really fresh.... like in a thunder storm

  • @Skyhawk1998

    @Skyhawk1998

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's because you're smelling ozone generated by the storm.

  • @ferrumignis

    @ferrumignis

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's really not good for you though.

  • @SynZ777

    @SynZ777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the smell when you'd rub your hand against a CRT TV.

  • @TinySpongey
    @TinySpongey5 жыл бұрын

    Dredging my memory about 555s... been a while since I messed with one. Pin 4 is actually reset which is tied to Vcc as it isn't used. Pin 5 is the control pin which they recommend has a 10nF decoupling capacitor attached if that is unused.

  • @Mark1024MAK

    @Mark1024MAK

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, pin 5 is CV - Control Voltage. A capacitor (typically 10nF to 100nF) can be added to smooth the voltage on the internal voltage divider resistor network. Or an external voltage can be fed in to change the switching points. On CMOS versions of the chip, or where the NE555 is being used and stability is not considered important, the pin can be left unconnected.

  • @KineticWasEpicVideos
    @KineticWasEpicVideos5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see the good old triple-nickel. I bet the ubiquitous 8-pin microcontroller doesn't run at a high enough frequency to drive the circuit, especially since you want to vary the duty cycle of a ~30khz signal.

  • @wwsxa39
    @wwsxa395 жыл бұрын

    Photocopiers produce ozone during use. The manufacturers try to mitigate this with carbon filters but still some escapes in to the room. There are countries that stipulate a minimum distance from people that the copier must be situated.

  • @zh84

    @zh84

    5 жыл бұрын

    The same was true with the original laser printers. They used a very similar technology.

  • @stepheneyles2198

    @stepheneyles2198

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love the smell of ozone around copiers, but as most enjoyable things it's not good for our health! :-D

  • @madbstard1

    @madbstard1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@stepheneyles2198 Thought I was the only one that loved that smell! Didn't help that I was looking after a lot of photocopiers and laser printers.

  • @benbaselet2026

    @benbaselet2026

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JorgTheElder Hmm.. now I'm thinking salvaging those from old printers for DIY ozone generators.

  • @maicod

    @maicod

    5 жыл бұрын

    I bought an ozone and microscopic-dust filter for my new laserprinter since I could smell it so much

  • @justalilbitnerdy
    @justalilbitnerdy5 жыл бұрын

    wish I had thought of scratching the board with a screwdriver, I had the same problem, and had fun putting a tiny wire between the detached joint and the next spot on the board I could solder...

  • @mrb692

    @mrb692

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you can’t find a pad, make a pad!

  • @jeremytravis360
    @jeremytravis3605 жыл бұрын

    I alway though that ozone and air ionisers were the same thing. We used to sell ionisers for many reasons including removing static from LP records. One of our reps had a heart attack on a plane and after treatment he stared importing for the company a different products. I think he was introduced to them in a Swiss hospital were they were using them for recuperation. Yes odd things 0/2 & 0/3 molecules.

  • @MrBobWareham
    @MrBobWareham5 жыл бұрын

    To soft solder stainless steel, you need a special acid flux that is very corrosive they use it on Fish and Chip Fryers in the manufacture

  • @Zenodilodon
    @Zenodilodon5 жыл бұрын

    It's a very pretty transformer and if fully potted I am betting ya could get 10-20 KV out if driven hard enough maybe more. I am betting the inductor in series with the HV transformer is for current limiting to the primary. I wonder if they did that to cut down on power handling/cooling components and cost.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Looks vacuum potted. It does look very good quality.

  • @Zenodilodon

    @Zenodilodon

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom My friend and I " KZread Channel Join The Technicians " Have been working really hard to make custom high voltage transformers for the electrostatic magic wands. So far we are on driver development and are fixing some phase problems with the full bridge driver but not important. The transformer shown here is an amazing form factor, looks about the diameter of a AA cell. Currently we are using a driver that matches the 18350. This stuff gets really tricky when you try to put 250kv in a 12 inch stick. The problem we have been working on is defeating the capacitive heating in the epoxies, another major one has been trying to cure the epoxies at the right temperature zones as not to crack the cores. A thing to note when you pull transformers apart, a heat gun does absolute wonders!

  • @creativejamieplays7185
    @creativejamieplays71855 жыл бұрын

    Opens case, *BOOM*

  • @benwinkel
    @benwinkel5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what would happen if Clive would succeed at splitting the oxygen atom..., would it remove the isle of Man from the face of the earth?

  • @Heizenberg32
    @Heizenberg325 жыл бұрын

    19:30 Oxygen in the atmosphere is mostly molecular Oxygen, O2.

  • @YTANDY100
    @YTANDY1005 жыл бұрын

    to stop the whole machine with the switch you could just disconnect pin 8 of the 555 and connect it to the switch :-)

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical5 жыл бұрын

    You could always make a HT probe, the professional ones seem to be just two 300m ohm resistors back to back in line with the tip

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Most HV probes rely on the 10Mohm meter impedance and scale it down with a single high voltage series chain of resistors. But in cases like this it would probably load the very low output down even with that high resistance.

  • @phonotical

    @phonotical

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom I think I got my information from a data sheet about some professional models and I thought, well why would I pay hundreds for that when I could make it myself for 5% of the cost 😅 I think the problem would come with accurate scaling, what do you think

  • @captainpugwash4100
    @captainpugwash41005 жыл бұрын

    Everyone knows that if the LEDs are not blinking wildly it’s not working properly 😂😂😂

  • @gcewing

    @gcewing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Blinking LEDs means it's contacting the engine over the CANbus, so it can optimise your ozone production.

  • @ReneMicheo
    @ReneMicheo5 жыл бұрын

    I like it when you say OZONE

  • @cmyanmar13
    @cmyanmar135 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to see it running.

  • @tylerufen
    @tylerufen5 жыл бұрын

    The DS212 seemed like the best mini scope I could find, though it's still a bit expensive for my current involvement in the hobby... There's another one that came out, though, it's a hand-held greenish thing, 20 MHz 2-channel, sells for about $120 on eBay... They'd advertised it for $20 one day by mistake and someone bought one, but they fixed it the next day and I couldn't order it lol idk if it's any good, though, it's the.... JDS2023, they also have better models, too, like a 50 MHz one, and a 4-channel portable one, but the JDS2023 is at the same price point as the DSo212 and I'm wondering which is the best bang for the buck... and I guess, speaking of bang, maybe you could get one for free off Banggood and review it or something x 3 I was just checking and there's also an Owon 100 Mhz 1GS for $260... There's the resale value, the "I might break it" factor, and the usability and keepability that I consider, I think... idk what I'm going to do, but since you have a DSO212 if you got a JDS2023 and made a comparison, I wouldn't stop you. Edit: There's two English reviews on KZread for it (haven't watched them yet), I think it's a new product/brand/company...

  • @SkigBiggler

    @SkigBiggler

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm just going to use my BeagleBone black as an oscilloscope.

  • @superdau

    @superdau

    5 жыл бұрын

    My "stunt" oscilloscope is a DSO150. It can be found for about 20$-25$ on banggood. Only single channel and not really high bandwidth (a few hundred kHz), but it serves me well when doing repairs especially in the power supply section of circuits.

  • @SkigBiggler

    @SkigBiggler

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the BeagleBones a little pricier (60 NZD) but I believe it does 100 MHz max. I'm currently building a case and designing some PCBs to attach probe jacks to. 2 BNC, 14 banana plugs. Has either 16 or 14 channels, and you can use it wirelessly. It's a pretty cool system. If you're interested check out BeagleLogic

  • @BloodAsp
    @BloodAsp5 жыл бұрын

    I am pretty sure the "OhhZone" Is something else. ;P

  • @mycosys

    @mycosys

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also associated with multivibrators?

  • @benwinkel

    @benwinkel

    5 жыл бұрын

    It usually hangs around the "Gee"-spot.

  • @jhonbus

    @jhonbus

    5 жыл бұрын

    You'll definitely encounter this if you spend a lot of time in public toilets...

  • @jimstanley_49
    @jimstanley_494 жыл бұрын

    You got there. Two oxygen atoms is the most stable configuration. Sometimes two single oxygen atoms will "choose" the same third atom to recombine with and ozone is formed.

  • @Netctrdotcom
    @Netctrdotcom5 жыл бұрын

    What about the four unsoldered pins on the sdh8302? They must be barely making contact for it to work.

  • @KeepEvery1Guessing
    @KeepEvery1Guessing5 жыл бұрын

    What peak voltage does the IRF530 see when it switches off?

  • @johnmacdonald9335
    @johnmacdonald93355 жыл бұрын

    As people indicated below, let's not split those atoms apart. Best to stick with the molecules of two O atoms. I had to think about it and even looked it up as well.

  • @richbooth8948
    @richbooth89485 жыл бұрын

    potential design mod: use the switch to disable the 12v power supply?

  • @denniswoycheshen
    @denniswoycheshen5 жыл бұрын

    Lol the ad before this masterpiece was for an air purifier.

  • @habafflof
    @habafflof5 жыл бұрын

    I got a feeling that now since Clive mentioned that scope it's gonna be sold out in seconds like most other equipment he mentions on his channel.

  • @richardbas2948
    @richardbas2948 Жыл бұрын

    It's simple Clive! As long as one 'O' is on its own, it is called an 'atom'! When it is pared with the other 'O', it is called a molecule!

  • @kensmith5694
    @kensmith56945 жыл бұрын

    LM555 pin 4 is reset. LM555 pin 5 is a tap on the internal resistor divider. It is a bit odd that they have 2 power supply circuits.

  • @SpeccyMan

    @SpeccyMan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, pin 5 is control voltage. It can be used for simple frequency modulation. I used it on a simple IR microphone back in the 1980's.

  • @kensmith5694

    @kensmith5694

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SpeccyMan In that same era, I used the function of pin 5 to make a DC-DC converter with regulation using a 555. What I did was: If you use a zener or reference to hold pin 5 at 5V, the "trg" pin compares with 2.5V When "Q" is low, the "discharge" is turned on. This means a voltage divider from the load to "discharge" can trigger the 555 any time the voltage is too low. A small capacitor can delay and smooth this a bit. The "thr" pin compares to 5V and the usual "one shot" action can set the on time.

  • @dmsim2835
    @dmsim28355 жыл бұрын

    Any chance you could do something on usb data/power cables and the difference. What to look out for and so on. I used to think all usb cables were equal with acceptation connector type. Now I'm learning to my cost and time there are various ratings depending on their purpose.

  • @AndrewWalsh43
    @AndrewWalsh435 жыл бұрын

    If the 555 timer is supposed to control the duty cycle of the transformer and by association the corona discharge, presumably they have used the wrong value resistor on Pin 3 to ground or the wrong type of transistor ?? Also the diagram does not show how the 555 chip and Trim Pot connect to and/or control the Fan.

  • @dgnydgny1625
    @dgnydgny1625 Жыл бұрын

    I have an ionizer and a puripod. I can't smell the ionizer, the puripod smells like electricity. The ionizer does not make a noticible change. The Puripod does a really good job at neutralizing the bad odors.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    Жыл бұрын

    An ioniser subtly precipitates dust out of the air at a microscopic level. An ozone generator creates a notable smell when you are close to it.

  • @orinokonx01
    @orinokonx015 жыл бұрын

    I've been meaning to ask for ages now. Why would a manufacturer decide on using a discrete diode rectifier, rather than a standard full bridge rectifier component? I guess it would come down to cost, but still it seems odd!

  • @franglish9265
    @franglish92655 жыл бұрын

    They obviously want the ozone to crunchify the board until it faild, so that you have to buy it again.

  • @robertgaines-tulsa
    @robertgaines-tulsa5 жыл бұрын

    Are those things convertable to ionizers if you preferred an ionizer over an ozone generator?

  • @user-si5fm8ql3c

    @user-si5fm8ql3c

    5 жыл бұрын

    every Ionizer produces Ozone

  • @meepk633
    @meepk6335 жыл бұрын

    You're right. O2 is molecular oxygen or diatomic oxygen. Ozone is triatomic oxygen. It's technically molecular oxygen, but we usually reserve that for O2.

  • @rich1051414
    @rich10514145 ай бұрын

    It splits oxygen molecules. Oxygen binds to oxygen to make O2. Breaking that bond makes 2 free oxygen atoms. Those free oxygen atoms will oxidize another O2 molecule, making 2 O3 molecules, which is ozone.

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder82145 жыл бұрын

    simply take a cable from the positive fan and take it to pin 5 of the 555. if the fan is of, it will take the 555 in reset

  • @Mark1024MAK

    @Mark1024MAK

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pin 5 is “control voltage” not reset.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans94265 жыл бұрын

    Far from being healthy, ozone is a toxic gas, its ability to react with microbes in the air also allowing it to interact with, and damage, tissues in the human airways. In fact I conducted lab research into this toxicity some years ago. For example, the US EPA states: "When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections." I would therefore definitely avoid the use of ozone generators in any attempt to purify air as a means of improving one's respiratory wellbeing.

  • @Heizenberg32

    @Heizenberg32

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very true. And it is downright criminal to market this as an ionizer, and encourage your customers to use it in occupied rooms. Ozone has damn-near miraculous odor destroying abilities. And, to me, definitely has its place when used properly (in unoccupied rooms, with ample time to dissipate.)

  • @peteshulver9221

    @peteshulver9221

    5 жыл бұрын

    William. I can concur with your response as a retired clinical scientist working in the Linear Accelerator radiotherapy side of Medical Physics, Ozone is highly toxic and causes cell damage, we had to go to great lengths to monitor and suppress its production in very high voltage equipment, I can not think why anyone would want to actively produce it. Ozone is often confused with Dimethyl sulphide which is the compound that causes the "Seaside smell" that you sense at the coast caused by decomposing organic compounds found in seaweed etc!

  • @Blox117

    @Blox117

    5 жыл бұрын

    quoting the epa is not exactly lab research

  • @Blox117

    @Blox117

    5 жыл бұрын

    man I certainly dont understand this paranoia over chemicals

  • @peteshulver9221

    @peteshulver9221

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Blox117 Try telling that to the North and some South Vietnamese during the war when doused with Agent Orange!

  • @TheDarkTiamat2011
    @TheDarkTiamat20115 жыл бұрын

    would it be totally save to put these on a timed socked, that switches the device on for the night time where nobody is using the room, eg public bathroom?

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes you could.

  • @TheDarkTiamat2011

    @TheDarkTiamat2011

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom do you have any recomendated brand? german amazon? i would like to buy one, not to expensive, to try it out. i guess as many you already have taken to bits, you have a favorite one?

  • @robson6285
    @robson62855 жыл бұрын

    Hey finally once a time nót a led-light or li-ion-With-a-ledlight? Wow, fiinally big clive gets worth watching, again...!!(so Thanx big clive, for beiing interesting again!!)!

  • @siffle4249
    @siffle42495 жыл бұрын

    What would a ozone generator be used for

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sterilising and deodorizing air.

  • @poppinlochnesshopster3249
    @poppinlochnesshopster32495 жыл бұрын

    I'm more interested in what printer/camera you use for those full page photo prints, those look amazing (and expensive.)

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Photo's taken with a cheap android phone with good all round illumination. Photos printed on an Epson ecotank bulk ink printer on cheap Poundland (dollar store) glossy photo paper.

  • @poppinlochnesshopster3249

    @poppinlochnesshopster3249

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom suppose it goes to show you only need to know what you're doing, not have the best gear. :P

  • @Made2hack
    @Made2hack5 жыл бұрын

    Will As Seen on TV be one day replaced by As Seen on KZread?

  • @adrianrabbage4996
    @adrianrabbage49965 жыл бұрын

    Clive splits the atom, goodbye Isle of Man!

  • @Distinctly.Average

    @Distinctly.Average

    5 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. And next week he is testing the Banggood desktop Mr Fusion at the MBC.

  • @pattoe1973
    @pattoe19735 жыл бұрын

    like your video,s , when do you make a new video with your brother ?

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    I did one fairly recently. To celebrate Ralfy's 10th year on KZread.

  • @evilincproductions
    @evilincproductions4 жыл бұрын

    I'm watching this just to hear someone say the word corona without being demonetized. It's my last salvation...

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    4 жыл бұрын

    They've slackened the rules on that. It's just malicious videos that are being demonetized or removed.

  • @evilincproductions

    @evilincproductions

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom ah I see, that's good to hear. It was getting a bit dystopian there for a bit.

  • @davidmichael3189
    @davidmichael31893 жыл бұрын

    Came to see if these are worth buying. Still don't know.

  • @itechflagstaff
    @itechflagstaff5 жыл бұрын

    Please tell me what color printer you use. I like the quality of your prints. Thank you.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Epson ecotank.

  • @Shaun.Stephens

    @Shaun.Stephens

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom LOL, I was going to say it's probably a black one.

  • @slamdvw
    @slamdvw5 жыл бұрын

    LOL! Delivered by Ace Ventura?

  • @tomaskovacik
    @tomaskovacik5 жыл бұрын

    After 5V it doesn't matter how you say zener:)

  • @StephenBelcher-sr3zk
    @StephenBelcher-sr3zkАй бұрын

    Welcome Scruff

  • @tree-goo9517
    @tree-goo95174 жыл бұрын

    So does it actually make ozone?

  • @jmm1233
    @jmm12334 жыл бұрын

    If makes a hiss and pop when supplied with current always think it be a capacitor has given up the juice and replacing

  • @ArlenMoulton2
    @ArlenMoulton25 жыл бұрын

    The ozone generators in the toilets at my school are way overpowered, when you walk through the door the amount of ozone takes the linings off your sinuses, makes your face tingle and makes your eyes itch.

  • @williamevans9426

    @williamevans9426

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bad news, esp. in a school. Ask your parents to request the school check the generators!

  • @__WJK__

    @__WJK__

    5 жыл бұрын

    =0

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Especially bad news for the cleaners and caretakers who have to spend a bit of time cleaning and maintaining the facilities.

  • @ArlenMoulton2

    @ArlenMoulton2

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bigclivedotcom they're big beefy PHS generators, in a loo the size of a small broom closet.

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ArlenMoulton2 Ah, I've taken similar modern units to bits.

  • @JayH7745
    @JayH77455 жыл бұрын

    Terrible looking solder joints all over that PCB. Probably used the sh**ty lead free solder because most of those solder joints look dry and bumpy. I agree that it's a weird circuit design. Cheap looking too. But an AWESOME video upload as always Big Clive! Thank You!

  • @eideticex

    @eideticex

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's not a lead free solder problem. It's bad technique. That's what SAC305 looks like when you are sloppy. Have to use an appropriate tip, appropriate temp and be meticulous about keeping the tip clean. None of that will slow down someone that's gotten the hang of the stuff but it does require giving a shit about quality of your work.

  • @JayH7745

    @JayH7745

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh I'm sorry. I've never used lead free solder (or SAC305 as you mentioned) in the 41 + years I've been in the electronics industry, but what ever the reason is for these lousy solder joints, this should not have passed inspection. I'll have to try out the lead free solder sometime and see how it works. Probably won't bother with it though.

  • @eideticex

    @eideticex

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JayH7745 SAC305 is one of the industry standard lead free solders. Similar to working with the lead based silver bearing solder of old but higher heat to get good flow. Works amazing when you need something that'll shield the joint from ambient RF and as I learned in a recent project can actually weld galvanized steel with a seamless (looking) joint.

  • @bitrot42
    @bitrot425 жыл бұрын

    Why use a 1K pot in parallel with a 1K1 resistor, instead of just using a 470R pot? Overall, it seems fairly well-designed for a cheap unit of dubious value.

  • @nejiniisan1265

    @nejiniisan1265

    5 жыл бұрын

    To shape the variable resistance curve.

  • @Vamptonius
    @Vamptonius4 жыл бұрын

    Would you get paid if I sought out one of those pocket scopes? And would it be worth it as a main scope?

  • @bigclivedotcom

    @bigclivedotcom

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's a huge range of pocket scopes available. I don't do affiliate links.

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