The Sony FX3 with ProRes RAW has such great dynamic range it honestly looks just as good as RED footage. It’s incredible! What do you think?

@elitefamilyparkour

2 жыл бұрын

The dynamic range is always the same, no matter if recorded 10 bit internally or 12 bit to the Atomos. The only thing that changes is color.

@FamJammersFilm

2 жыл бұрын

Did you use the standard SLOG 3 or did you tweak it to better suit your filming technique?

@FamJammersFilm

2 жыл бұрын

Also did you under, over, or expose just right?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@FamJammersFilm I actually just exposed as normal, not over or under. Really I kept any highlights from blowing out. I’ve found that if I expose it pretty normal in camera, i have no issues or need for 1 stop over or under

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@FamJammersFilm just used the basic slog 3. No changes to the default.

This was a great tutorial/walkthrough! The shots are looking incredible!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks man, appreciate that! hope it's helpful in some way.

Perfect video. Thank you for showing me how to work with ProRes footage.

I think I watched this video once before, but I was multi-tasking at the time. Revisiting it this evening was an eye-opener. Glad I am subscribed to your channel.

@chadwin

11 ай бұрын

Hey thanks so much! Glad you came across it again for a second viewing. Mastering dynamic range really helps you get the most out of your camera.

Great tutorial!!! You explain things so well.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for always watching!

Great stuff and very timely. My FX3 arrives later today and plan on doing a lot of shooting on it with my Ninja V. Looking forward to more FX3 stuff from you!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I bet you're excited to finally get your hands on the FX3! You're gonna get some great footage with the Ninja V. It's been hard to get one from a lot of places, but nowhere near as backordered as the FX6.

@GeraldBertramPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin You are so right! I was watching B&H like a hawk! Got it ordered when it showed up Tuesday. By I believe Wednesday they were gone again.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeraldBertramPhotography yeah, I know exactly how you feel! I've been watching B&H closely for the FX6, but it's been out for like 2 months now....Glad you finally got your FX3 ordered!

Hi chadwin, I noticed that the slowed down footage looks choppy and I think that's due to your wrong shutter speed. i think you should've been shooting at 1/120 because you are shooting at 60fps. Your shutter speed should almost never be lower than your fps.

@JoshFromPerth

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, was uncomfortable to watch tbh o_0

@bosslightproductions498

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe he didn't slow it down to 24fps, looks like he went lower

@alphafilms_at

Жыл бұрын

no answer yet from him?

@AndrewSalama

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, your Shutter Speed should always be double your frame rate ( or at least as close as possible)

@MarkusGjengaar

8 ай бұрын

No its not the shutter speed. Its looks more like he put it in S&Q mode with a project rate at 60fps and but his recording rate is like 30 still. Then he slowed the footage down thinking it was 60, but it was actually just 30. not a shutter speed issue.

Really great looking footage Chadwin!! Glad you're lovin the FX3 because I'm really loving my a7S III too! Phenomenal cameras with fantastic colors.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Oh that’s awesome you got the a7siii! It’s such a great cam. We gotta shoot something again soon.

@TylerLeeKenyon

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin it’s definitely been way too long since we’ve filmed together!

I have an FX3, got it off Amazon Used market almost $1,000 off retail with everything it came new. There wasn’t even a scratch on that camera hands down best money I’ve spent in a minute.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

that's awesome! It sounds like you got an incredible deal on your FX3. The camera really is a great investment.

@SigmaRealEstateStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Do they have another one like it 🤣 can’t seem to find one

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@SigmaRealEstateStudios trying to find a used FX3? They’re so hard to find used or new right now. Everyone once and a while I see someone in Sony FX3 Facebook groups selling theirs

@SigmaRealEstateStudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin I’ll check those out thank you

@georgerady9706

Ай бұрын

Basically, my FX3 setup (coming from the Nikon “Filmmakers Kit” that Apple never supported) but I’m wondering if it’s overkill for - my in studio - work 🤔 I use the Atomos Ninja as my Monitor but I stopped trying to write-out ProRes RAW when it overheated my A1 and - while my FX3 has that “shoot-saving” fan - I’m thinking Cine is gonna be good enough… since I have complete control of my lighting. Still experimenting!

I am going to give this editing program a try. I have Lightworks, but find color grading to be a little tricky. This looked great, and I love the mask technique. I was duplicating your specs except for the shutter speed. I set to 120 because shutter speed typically should be double the frame rate. But you can create some beautiful stills from these videos as well.

It would have been better if you used 1/120, slowed down footage looks a bit choppy

Yeah jeez, that's beautiful.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

hey thanks! utah is gorgeous in the fall

Looks like your FX3 was still set to 23.976 fps settings, while the ninja v was set to 60fps! Giving you about 36 useless duplicate frames per second. Make sure you set your shutter speed to double your frame rate! (1/125 on FX3 currently.) Would be so nice if sony just gave us global shutter via firmware update 🤞🏼

The FX3 and Ninja V combination allows for a compact rig set-up with a camera that breaks existing boundaries and unleashes extended creative possibilities to creators. Add to this the ability to record data-rich 16-bit RAW from the FX3, which is then compressed and recorded in the Ninja V as 12-bit ProRes RAW from the camera’s large sensor at 4.2K up to p60.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's absolutely incredible the cameras that we have access to now. It's really such a powerful combination. And yes, I totally failed to mention that it goes from 16 bit to 12bit recorded and finally 10 bit when exported as ProRes from your editor. Then who knows what destructive compressing youtube does to it after uploading haha!

@MarcinHaFilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin then vimeo saying hello :)

Hi, in FCPX , if you shoot C LOG 3 10 bit, do u have to export in pro res because rec 709 is only 8bit ?

Great video! I own both cameras and I've found the FX3 to give a richer, smoother and more colorful image than the A7SIII. I've done side by side tests and although subtle the difference is obvious. The camera images are not identical as some reviewers have said. Cheers!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

That’s very interesting! I haven’t been able to test them side by side, i can only compare my old a7siii footage. But I’ve been very impressed with the look of the FX3, so I’m happy to hear that it looks even better through your experience.

@Arri.

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting both cameras use same processors & censors just difrent housing Sony them self said in numerous articles this two are identical when it comes to image quality & dynamic range.

@willvazquez3218

2 жыл бұрын

@@Arri. where did Sony say that both cameras are identical? KZreadrs have said it but there is no official mention from Sony. Even though the innards may be the same, the FX3 has had the image processing tweaked a little to make the image slightly richer.

@terralukemedia8691

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin I love your footage I also sold my Red Raven and picked up two sony bodies one being the FX3, and I've been fortunate to have use it on three narrative projects. I also use the Ninja V for ProRes Raw and false color. I was wondering do you ensure that your skintones are in the green around 55 ire? I find the using Cinematch and converting to Arri or Red color space gives me the best looking image and avoids the Rec709 look.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

@@terralukemedia8691 that’s awesome! I know the RED Raven gets really great footage, but the full frame and AF of the FX3 is nice to have! Sounds like you’ve got a great setup and method for color grading. I do try to expose my skin tones between 50-70 IRE yes

Hi Chadwin! That was a great introduction. I am considering using ProRes Raw with GFX100S or FX6 but wasa bit afraid. The best would possibly be using ArriRaw but much more expensive, I did like that ProRes Raw is available in much much less expensive cameras, though I don't like their proprietary way of handling stuff (Apple). Thanks a lot

1/50 shutter at 60fps ?

ya, I have both (FX 3 and V+ Pro), and have only done a few test in the RAW and it looks insane. but even shooting at the ProRes 4K mode is insane. the raw is just more insane. I think it's causing me to rethink lighting and other aspects as it seems to look more "lifelike' as in, the way the eye sees contrast light etc

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

that's awesome! Sounds like you have a really great setup. This camera really captures some amazing footage, especially in RAW, it's just a lot more work to grade for sure! Lighting is everything!!

Basically, my FX3 setup (coming from the Nikon “Filmmakers Kit” that Apple never supported) but I’m wondering if it’s overkill for - my in studio - work 🤔 I use the Atomos Ninja as my Monitor but I stopped trying to write-out ProRes RAW when it overheated my A1 and - while my FX3 has that “shoot-saving” fan - I’m thinking Cine is gonna be good enough… since I have complete control of my lighting. Still experimenting!

Hey! Just had a quick question, i have a 13400 mAh with 190Wh v mount battery, i just wanted to ask to see if i can use this v battery safely with sony fx3 with dummy to d tap cable?

I've been using the Ninja V with the A7R V and absolutely loving it. I do expose for the skin tones not the highlights like it seems you've done. It seems like all of your grade are really dark in medium shadows. Slog3 has way more flexibility with highlights. Yes you should protect them but not at the cost of your subjects face being way too dark.

I have the S3, cage, handle with the Atomos Ninja V. Adding an Fx3 hopefully but want to know can you get the sound mic AND the atomor ninja V on there without a cage or extra handle?

Comprehensive and easy to understand! Excellent video. The visual examples really helped me understand.

Can I ask about the highlights? They're cooked in the clouds in most shots - is that workflow error or is the limit of the dynamic range or did you just not specifically expose for them originally? Cheers

@jakelundell2676

2 жыл бұрын

exposed incorrectly. however you can adjust exposure in post in source settings, not sure why he didn't do this

how do you set up the fx 30 to show on the screen & monitor & record on both at the same time!!!

The colors seem pretty green/yellow tinted, especially in the skin tones

AFAIK from watching Alister Chapman's videos, we should be using S-Log3 S-Gamut3 (NOT Cine) for Raw video. Nice footage and thanks for the video!

Also I notice the the FX 3 seems to push yellows a bit. I used the Sony Rec709 LUT and my vids look similar to yours. there's probably a color adjustment in the camera that I have not found yet.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's interesting. I'd rather have it push yellow than the green shift sony cameras have become infamous for! haha! Usually I really love the Natural Rec709 LUTs but they haven't been looking right with ProRes RAW...

@InFamousProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin ya, maybe that's what it is. but pulling out the yellow isn't too bad unless it's really extreme. if you have a fav LUT, let us fans know hahah

Sorry to correct you here but DaVinci Resolve does not work with ProRes Raw

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Oh interesting! Good to know. I’m mostly using FCP, so I hadn’t even tried it

Ninja FIVE (Roman numerals man...). Footage looks great.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I know I know! Old habits die hard, I’ve just always called it the V instead of 5. 😂 Rebel without a cause I guess you could say….

Very informative. You should look into using Apple compressor. It offers many more export options.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

true, I don't use it very often--usually only when I have issues exporting out of FCP. haha

Hey chadwin Hows the tokina lens? Was looking into a cinema lens for the fx3 And whats your hourly rate you charge?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

The Tokina lens is great! It works best on a crop sensor, but it does work well on full frame like the FX3 past 40mm. I don’t typically charge by the hour, but by the project.

@TimandLauren

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin thanks for the reply chad, definitely will consider, but leaning towards the sigma cinema line, i wonder if the fx3 with a cinema lens can produce that "film cinematic commercial" look that a bmpcc or red komodo can bring and nice dude, i think thats the best too

Did u shot 1/50th speed with 60fps ? Wher's the rule that almost everyone said double it ur shutter ?

why did u shoot 1/50 for 60fps ?

I thought Davinci did NOT run Pros res raw????

Hey chadwin i recently got a ninja v for my fx3 , why cant i see what im shooting on the full monitor screen ? its cropped

@VAR_Austin

Жыл бұрын

The cord you are using is probably not able to transmit enough data. Any small thing off will cause NV to not record in full 4K.

@d0ublethink

8 ай бұрын

Make sure you have "HDMI Info Display" setting turned OFF. When this setting is OFF, it enables the "Clean" HDMI out, and will utilize the full display.

How's the editing of prores raw Is it hard to edit

Looks like you're mixing drone footage in with this

You’re misleading here: …. Davinci Resolve does not read Prores Raw…

Dude... if you're going to do an image quality test/comparison change the shutter speed, you can work in exact 1/3rd's of a stop to match Ei/ISO changes. The VND is variable outside of control...

IS posible 16 bits 4k in 120fps?

Doesn't it convert the 16-bit signal to 12-bit though? Or is it actually exporting at 16-bit via ProRes RAW?

@chadwin

Жыл бұрын

You’re correct. It downsamples it to 12bit when recording on the Atomos. But I think it’s still a higher quality look then starting at 10bit only or something.

Hello, can you have the FX3 + Ninja V+ and record 8K or 6K and then edit in DaVinci ? Or it only works with Final Cut ? Thank you !

@kennethwilliamsinc

Жыл бұрын

FX3 doesn’t shoot 8k or 6k. PR Raw doesn’t work with DaVinci. You will have to convert the 4K PR Raw to PR 4444 to retain 12bit in DaVinci.

Hey Chadwin! Any reason your shutter speed was at 1/50 and not 1/125?

@joelcorral2475

Жыл бұрын

right? dude made a few errors

um.. wouldn't the 180 degree rule mean you should shoot 1/125 for 60fps? Why are you shooting at 1/50 for these slow-motion clips? Am I missing something?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! You’re totally right. I accidentally wrote 1/50th in the video metadata, but yes it was 1/125th shutter while out shooting

@bammediafilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin thank you for the clarification. I thought you unlocked a cheat code that I didn't know about or something lol

@jakelundell2676

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin there's no chance this was 1/125th shutter while shooting

Have you guys suffered from the major color shifting on all prores Raw footages by Ninja V with Sony mirrorless? If I switch to prores compressed format, there will be not this issue anymore……

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

honestly, I haven't noticed any major color shifts in my prores RAW footage. do you have any examples you can share where that's happened?

why did you shoot 1/50 if you're at 60fps?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Oops! I wrote that wrong! I shot at 1/125. I’m just used to always thinking 1/50 since I typically shoot in 24fps.

@4EverBergen

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. Was about to point out the same thing. U beat me to IT:)

60fps and 1/50 shutter speed? Usually most people set at 1/120. What's the advantage?

@chadwin

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the confusion, this has tripped a few people up now. Haha It’s a typo, on the video I wrote 1/50, but I actually shot at 1/120. Keeping the 180 degree shutter rule

@tock509

Жыл бұрын

@@chadwin 😄😄✌👍

I think it’s 12bit capture on the Ninja V.

hi, nice video. but I would not recomend to put the blacks to the zero on a day time, because in a real life you will not see so much black in the shadows at daylight too. :)

Can I achieve the same quality with the A7Siii?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

YES! the a7siii and FX3 have the same sensor and image quality. I've done tests with both and they look the same.

sony now says their base iso is 800 not 640. interesting

Native ISO of this Camera is 800

Hi Friend Is this 16 bit raw or 12 bit raw ?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

FX3 outputs 16bit, Atomos records in 12bit, then I graded in 10bit and 10bit export

@baijunatarajan

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin Thanks Brother. Does Davnci resolve support prores 10 bit ( not raw ) Please advise ...

Just after 3:17 it looks like the focus is shifting. I was really hoping not to see that.

@VeganLinked

6 ай бұрын

closer to the 3:21 mark

why didn't you shot your 60 fps in 1/120? you shot it in 1/50??

@chadwin

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the confusion, I did shoot with shutter speed at 1/120 but accidentally put 1/50 as my camera settings in the video out of habit since I’m usually shooting in 24fps.

Dont want to sound like an a** but180 Rule doesnt not mean 1/50 shutter. for 60 fps 180 degree would be 1/120, possibly that is why we see jitters?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

You’re totally right!! 180 is just an equation. I wrote the wrong thing in the video, i didn’t shoot at 1/50, I shot at 1/125 cause it was 60fps. 😂 🤷🏼‍♂️ woops

16 bits???

Extra

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Guac is Extra

Have a read of the 180 degree shutter rule, it will help your footage improve a lot more than RAW will.

@chadwin

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, the 180 shutter rule is important and I used it in this video. I accidentally put 1/50th on screen because that’s usually what I’m running in 24fps. But on the day I was at 1/125 for 60fps.

why on earth would you shoot in 16bit HDR then smash it down to 8bit SDR. such a backwards and anti foward thinking way of doing things. i understand that youtube seems to hate HDR content but shooting HLG gives you both SDR(for now since youtube likes making it hard) and HDR. please help me understand why people want to take their amazing footage and make it crap..

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the FX3 outputs 16bit, the ninja V records it as 12bit, and then you can only export it as 10bit from FCP in Rec709. Which is what I did, and the 10bit still looks nice! The advantage is you get all the color information, but make it viewable for every device without the need for HDR. I still need to test shooting and delivering in HLG, I’m not sure how KZread will handle it.

@angelosanti9761

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin thanks so much for personally responding, davinci resolve can output 10 bit just fine I thought all the other softwares would be the same. I would highly recommend HLG it is basically the future. 10 bit beautiful HDR straight out of the camera...into a properly setup DaVinci. Why can't this stuff be more straightforward.

This is a bad Video, probably made to get affiliate income by selling expensive cameras and Monitors. Have you ever Shot on RED? This is a big difference to real RAW. You should have show visual comparisons to the internal 10bit Slog, the ProResRAW and RED footage to make the things you say proven, but you didnt. 12bit doesnt give you more dynamic range than 10bit when recorded in Slog. One can see that all the highlights that Blow out in your footage that are blown out cant be recovered in the grade which would be the case in true RAW recording.

14+ stops of dynamic range and RAW footage, yet you couldn’t save your wives skin tones? All the gear, no idea. Grab yourself an OG BMPCC and learn to shoot and edit before you give out terrible advice on the internet.

a7s3 / FX3 don't have 16 bit, stop talking nonsense. "16 bit linear" is such marketing nonsense. THEDPJOURNEY has also explained this before.