The battery voltage always go down when keeping the throttle to the max. The battery voltage plus the amps determines the watts. For exemple: 81v x 141 amps = 11421w. 72v x 141amps= 10152w.

@YouTubeCommentator.

Жыл бұрын

When the "slip" between magnets and stators drops at high rpm's the motor stops drawing as many amps. It will reach 11844w if you give it full juice at full stop

@electricbikeretrovintage

Жыл бұрын

@@KZreadCommentator. Correct.

@shadowk3

5 ай бұрын

Also, kinetic energy.

That’s crazy fast, man take it easy and enjoy life! Be safe!

Groovy man. I have the same sprocket and tire you're running. Just got my EBMX 72/42. Looking for that 80mph !. Got 12k tune on the bac4000. Haven't done a speed run cuz it's cold. It's like having a powerful car stereo. You don't need all that but it makes the mid range soo much more solid. Great Info. Cheers 🍻

@Barny-rh1tu

4 ай бұрын

Hell yea

Great job on the video! Thanks for making it. Gotta feel sketchy going that fast on what is essentially a bicycle.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

🙏 thanks, The biggest reason it took me so long to go this fast is because of how sketchy I thought it was gonna feel, it was actually surprisingly stable. i’m not saying I recommend doing this however 😂

@Tsbbidxh

Жыл бұрын

​@@JuicedJoyrides 7

@harorider96

Жыл бұрын

I just rode my first one this past weekend and it felt really planted for what it is. Tough to explain but never felt scared going 50 mph

@glenshea1967

Ай бұрын

​@@JuicedJoyridesWhat is the law on riding one of them in the states? I think in England UK🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿you have to be about 17 years plus to ride one and have a license.

haha nice man! 71mph is hella fast! I hit 64mph on my stealth bomber and that was crazy... and yo im still down to link up man, just waiting on my controller so I can keep up with you lol 😜🤙🏼

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, that’s wild, I’m definitely still down to meet up, I’d like to check out your bike, maybe even get it on the channel with a review of it. Have been super busy lately we need to connect soon dude

More than likely, just like a PC, It probably pulls performance if the controller gets too hot to maintain a safe temp. Like a computer processor reducing clock speeds to reduce temps.

She’s a ripper. I look forward to upgrading my Talaria to big power soon.

@quickcanary

Жыл бұрын

Right there with you, bro. :)

First vid so I’m not sure if you’ve ever rode motorcycles before, but in case you haven’t, the e-bike most likely felt very stable at higher speeds as is found when riding a motorcycle; the higher the RPMs on a motorcycle, you’ll find that more stability is produced given the physics associated, which makes the motorcycle want to go upright naturally. Fun fact, whenever you’re leaning into a corner, your rpm’s will go up about 2,000 on average with the exact same throttle input. Could be the same concept here given the mechanics of the e-bike itself. It’s a good thing to know, as you might find yourself understanding how your bike behaves mid corner or at certain speeds!

OH MY GOSH! That’s really god damn fast!!! I want to try too😂super cool~btw what’s your motor? 3000w or 5000w?

I would stay away from gear oil. A Teflon based or wax based lube would be better and won’t make a mess or attract dirt and muck like oil will.

How much battery was used for each 70mph pull? Thanks sweet video!! I have 16 inch super moto wheels with a 40t sprocket. I'm curious how fast I will go when my 72v makes it.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Approx 4% for each pull 😆, have fun and be safe!

@x1ver

Жыл бұрын

Wait do these bikes go 70mph stock or did he do some after market mods/tunes?

@FoamFlingingHS

Жыл бұрын

@@x1ver its modded with a Chi 72v battery and BAC4000

😅100mph Dreams ☝️🤟👽🚲🎬

@sunnydays3476

Жыл бұрын

😅 👽

@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICK

Жыл бұрын

I saw a vid where Sur Ron went 80mph

@louietramposch4559

Жыл бұрын

@@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICK you ever see what 5g does to a fly?🤣

@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICK

Жыл бұрын

@@louietramposch4559 lmao I sure have

@Hnkka

Жыл бұрын

@@OFFICIALBROTHERBOLDLYMUSICK Link

It's possible that your controller has a 3 speed setting... from the factory it comes as the middle mode. Maybe the extra 1200 is watts are in that third higher gear setting.

@thepuppy9089

Жыл бұрын

Pretty simple as well to switch between the "gears" with a 3 way switch and just add the button to your cockpit

C'est quoi la batterie et le contrôleur qu'elle compagnie partager moi les liens svp. Merci

First! And the Sur Ron is looking fresh. Wish i had the money to buy it.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! You’ll have one soon I hope 🤞

Holy shit man! I want that bike! Now i am jealous! ❤

Turn the phase amps down and field weakening up! You can get higher speeds without as much motor heat this way. Yes it will probably take longer to reach top speed but your motor will run cooler. Phase amps give you acceleration and torque. Field weakening increases your theoretical voltage by weakening the magnetic field. You can reach higher top speeds because its doing some magic science stuff that I dont fully understand to get you more voltage than you actually have. Im still learning.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will tinker with this!

@Cal627

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides Keep an eye on your motor temps. Field weakening will increase your motor temps but there should be a sweet spot. 100% field weakening, lower phase amps to 300ish, lower power from 12,000 to 8000 and tweak up from there and you should find a sweet spot where you can cruise at a high speed without overheating. Higher gearing would help big time here. I have a 40 tooth sprocket coming my way. Id love a 22 tooth or something crazy small so we could cruise at 50mph at low wattage but then you lose tons of torque.

The motor's RPM can decrease current loaded to it because of impedance rise, which in turn can limit top speed. In this case changing the gear ratio will get you higher speeds since the motor will have to rotate less and be able to receive more current, but will cost you acceleration.

What's the price run to get that speed?

I think you are seeing the max amperage output of the pack. A dual pack would lessen the sag. You are running a stock motor? When checking chain tension, remove the shock and cycle the suspension all of the way up and down while feeling how tight then chain is. Best way to ruin a chain, running it tight. Stick with chain lube.

@toofast01ws6

Жыл бұрын

Surrons have a strange Jack shaft setup so rear shock doesn't really come into play when adjusting the chain tension on these bikes, But I know that's true on regular dirt bikes.

Finallyyyyyyyyyy 🤘🏻

Great vid. Thank you for showing your face.

what app did you use on mount phone for speedo

Serious question if you think you could get back to me, around how long do you think it could keep at traffic speeds in a city environment bc I’m debating getting one for my commute in Denver but I go through the majority of downtown to get there

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

in stock form they don't do too well above 40mph, starts to eat battery quickly

Bro you just convinced me. I’m going to order me one…

I have a fully stock 2022 sur Ron x my top speed is 50mph I weigh 55kg I’m guessing when I get my 72v sur Ron with bac8000 it’ll push 65mph?

@shitpostcentraI

Жыл бұрын

yes, likely 70+

@AlessLr4848

Жыл бұрын

Ur extremely light so yes likely over 70 actually

@Dying-Light-Droppers

Жыл бұрын

@@shitpostcentraI thanks for the feedback

@Dying-Light-Droppers

Жыл бұрын

@@AlessLr4848 oh shit then guns be a rocket

@joem8601

Жыл бұрын

With a bac800 even 85 is likely

Hey JUICED i have a question- if i buy a regular 20 mph 1200Watt 48-52V Stock E Bike off Amazon. Will a replacement 72V Battery be compatible with the motor for such a bike? And will the wireless remote controlled firmware device also be compatible for such a bike?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I would guess a 72v battery would not work on the bike due to the controller not being compatible with a higher than 48v battery. Hope this helps 🤙

@NenUser12_

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides OK so then it would also seem true that the remote featured in this video is only compatible with Sur Ron and SegWay type E-Bikes. Thanks 👍

Brother I want that bike , NOW. if you drive REAL world street driving my bike now only hits 40mph. Not a surron, if you avg 30-40 mph wants average RANGE. Love your videos, keep them coming. Thx again video

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I never really cruise that fast, may have to give it a test for a future video

@mad151maxx4

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides that would be AWSOME, i thinking either this or the delfast 3.0i. surron difently faster. but delfast, think it gets better REAL WORLD driving,90% of my driving is city streets then bike paths stay under 20mph. im 6 2 250. thx again.

@barryallen5507

Жыл бұрын

@@mad151maxx4 I'm 200, considering something like this for grocery store/ gas station runs in 50mph speed zones. Looks like it handle it

Can you take a 2and people on this bike?

Where do you buy this?

That's why chain 'wax' got its name. Its waxy. Doesn't spray off like oil does 👍

I thought these bikes only topped out at 46 mph how did you get yours to go 70 mph what mods do you have??

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

7 Phases of the $10,000 72v SUR RON Rabbit Hole kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5aalq9-h5TWmag.html

Which city is this?

DAMN 😎

Riding a 72v Surron as a bicycle the sees a bike. After that we switched to BIKE MODE GOING LIGHTSPEED!!!! Well..... We need to worry about the battery

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

😆 in a nutshell

I get nervous when my ebike hits 20 I can not imagine 60+ on mine, absolutely terrifying Especially because of its lack of suspension + bumps on the roads I take but might splurge on a new seat for it to help with that 😂

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

😂

@gabrielslater4246

Жыл бұрын

I have a 50mph scooter mate, imagine a stock surron on small wheels

@bloodheadshot

5 ай бұрын

Just try Ones When It's on an empty Long Road

Anyone know the name of the app he was using for testing 0-20??

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

"Speedometer" - problem with GPS based systems is they all lag a second or two so it doesn't really work. Unless your talking bout the Eggrider App that measures wheel speed, that one is accurate.

Nice video all im say good thing you didn't get hurt. Imagine 55 plus mph on a scooter with no seat.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

it might be voltage sag or someone told a little white lie about the battery pack output numbers lol. I don't see why it is limiting you at 11000 kw.

I just wrapped my surron It’s a supreme wrap

Hi, how much does the ebike weigh? Thanks!

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

120-130 lbs ish

How much is this sur ron?? I want to buy one to go to work it looks really good

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

About 4200 stock and new I think

Another KZread with the same bike was able to get up to 89 mph. Crazy.

Is your chain stock?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

No, the chain I’m using is linked in the description box below the video. I have mixed feeling with it, it’s more efficient and faster, but more maintenance and louder

wow best bike ever

We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. kzread.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!

Did u build this urself? That thing cool as hell.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

It’s a pretty heavily modified Sur Ron. You can see most of my mods in the video I made titled 7 phases of the $10,000 Sur Ron, also the video on my homepage shows a lot of the basic mods.

That voltage sag is crazy lol

you should try out some muc off dry lube🤙

That is fast enough right there and 70

The fact its a bike bro is saving pn years worth of insurance and car payments and gas and the fact the plug and play accessories are so abundant is insane

How much does the bike cost? 💸 🚲

The best chain lube is lube on the chain. You loose alot of energy from friction and the chain's rotaitional acelleration.

@seivaDsugnA

5 ай бұрын

Chain drives are designed to run in an oil bath and can wear very quickly. Sprockes and chains wear together. Always replace them as a set $$. Try to never run a dirty nor dry chain.

Do I need a license for this

What mods does it have sick vid

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Many 😆

That electric bike is faster than my first car, lol. Crazy times.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Same, my first car was a 1988 dodge caravan, custom rust holes on the quarter panels 😆

PJ1 chain lube or gear oil, gear oil gums up alot quicker.

Holy smokes

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

🤙

So gear oil is the best to use on my chain?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think I can tell you that for sure, it’s been the best I’ve tried so far, but I have not tried everything. It can be very messy that’s for sure.

@JohnnysCafe_

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides my chain is pretty dry looking so I will give it a go and give it a good wipe , thank you 👍

Which tires you use

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Shinko 244

Liking your vids. Might want to watch posting vids of you speeding on the roads.. you can still get a ticket

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I really shouldn’t have let my buddy borrow my bike for this voiceover 😉, I’m taking the keys from him for good after this stint

@metonicycle6294

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides pretty funny dude

Reminds me of a DRZ400 on the highway. Doable but sketch

All I m interested in every engine is the speed of it. E bike motor bike cars.....

yeah 👍 she fast AF 😅

That's more then enough speed

70 is fast enough ! , enjoy your bike

What is the continuous current rating on that battery?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was 166, I need to look into that, good point. Hit me up Chi I need more continuous amps! You know I want to promote your battery

Holly crap, I was like well I'm almost as fast than him but something was wrong lol, I'm in km/h. 😉

Put a front fairing on it and duck in behind it and you'll go a lot faster. Maybe even pushing that 100 mph barrier.

@ashberger2717

11 ай бұрын

Wind resistance is the biggest limiting factor has speed increases?

@JuicedJoyrides

11 ай бұрын

true, may have to attempt 😆

I need one

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

i agree :)

Whats the point? And range is probably terrible

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

With the upgraded 72 V 38ah battery, I get 2700 W hours of energy, which, for the way I ride I can be out cruising for 3 to 4 hours and come home with at least 30% left in the tank. for me, this battery has been excellent so far, however, I have to admit, I would not mind having a battery probably 50% larger. The downside is that adds even more weight.

@jasontomica8938

Жыл бұрын

​@@JuicedJoyrides u r going much slower to get good range on these 72volt 38 Amp bikes.

160 amps is insane

Kee Kee Rist!

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

🏍️

How much did u pay for your bike?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

It is probably about an $8kish build right now

@jasontomica8938

Жыл бұрын

​@@JuicedJoyrides WAY TO MUCH

@jasontomica8938

Жыл бұрын

​@Juiced Joyrides my dualtron ultra 2up ecoooter is a 72 volt at 65mph for 4k price.

How much does this thing cost?

@tysonfinn1470

Жыл бұрын

$30 000

@joem8601

Жыл бұрын

Lol it’s about 7k-8k with this battery and controller upgrade + the charger You can sell your stock battery, charger, controller for at least 1k if you use eBay

@tysonfinn1470

Жыл бұрын

@@joem8601 i have 5 of these , can confirm 30k each

@joem8601

Жыл бұрын

@@tysonfinn1470 who tf spends 30k on 1 surron. Fr stop trolling and get a real hobby. Doubt u have even 1 surron

@tysonfinn1470

Жыл бұрын

@@joem8601 brotha, my surron is 24 carrots gold

Enough power to out run a mountain lion and a bear good enough for me 😄🤣

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

😂 both horrific scenarios 😆

that's faster than my yamaha tw200 freeway street legal motorcycle!

I have a real dirt bike. I use bell ray chain lubricant. Super blue and they have a white lubricant. If you use chain lubricant and let dry you more than likely not have sling all over your rear tire.

I NEED ONE LIVING IN FLORIDA NEAR THE BEACH BE ASWOME

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

They don’t do well in sand

@coolnavy5339

Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides NOT GOING TO DRIVE IN SAND THE BIKE LANE

Can someone buy a surron bike please please 🥺🥺🥺🥺 my mom don't have the money to buy it and my friends have I am a Jamaica

@jaysantana9801

Жыл бұрын

Ok

70 is more than fast enough. I'm not going to take that thing on the freeway lol

amazing that we have no regulation or need to register a motorized vehicle that is on public roads going 60 miles per hour. its reckless and dangerous

Now increase the aero

Tell me how

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Upgrades 😜

😱 I hope you wore gear

@CJ-hw4zc

Жыл бұрын

So true

Clean it bro

Am I the Only one who has Anxiety Attacks when he Rides next to Parked Cars....?😳

@JuicedJoyrides

11 ай бұрын

No, I do too 😬

S100 is the best for motorbike chains

Out of gearing that's why the colts drop at high speed

If want to see the world's fastest bike hiting 90mph check out some of my videos. No offense but my bike makes this thing look slow. My bike has a 37 tooth rear sprocket but still lifts the front wheel up even at 60mph! so I have the best of both worlds 0-60mph should be in the 3s!! I am taking it to a dyno soon and testing it with a draggy to see accurate 0-60mph 0-40 0-30 ex. You should do the same.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Sweet bike dude, you’re a wild man 😆. Where are you located?

@HyperEmoto

Жыл бұрын

@Juiced Joyrides Thanks lol 😆 I'm located in Denver Colorado.

How much does one of these cost? Why not just get a real motorcycle? I'm just thinking, aren't these like $10k? You could get a liter bike (1000cc) for less than that and beat most fast cars on the road today. If these were more affordable I'd be all over it...

@aidenbloomquist3287

Жыл бұрын

Like 5k and yeah 100% agree. The only thing your getting for these is "fuel efficiency " because you don't have to pay for gas which could also save you money in the long run but I doubt it

@aidenbloomquist3287

Жыл бұрын

Like 5k and yeah 100% agree. The only thing your getting for these is "fuel efficiency " because you don't have to pay for gas which could also save you money in the long run but I doubt it

Death trap, weight to power ratio not safe for top speed

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I agree, riding these things faster than 40 mph is kind of a death trap. All the fun is to be had cruising at 15 to 35 in my opinion and using the torque to pop the front wheel off the ground and have fun. The only reason I make top speed videos like this is because for some reason, this is what everybody wants to see, top, speed, top speed, the truth is people who ride these things know top speed is really irrelevant.

Your battery only pushes out 40 amp get a battery what can push out like 6o amps or more your be flying lol

If u want more top speed drop your back sprocket to like 46 tooth

@JuicedJoyrides

11 ай бұрын

That what I thought but the motor has to work too hard

@joshuarudd7690

11 ай бұрын

@JuicedJoyrides true but any mod u do will put stress on motor and battery 🔋

Don't you get pulled over, as this is not even street-legal? I could never ride my YZ125 in the street, popping wheels and riding on the sidewalk.

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

well, that's a lot louder, but people def ride gas dirt bikes on the street around here too haha

Lol bro at that point just take an MSF course and buy a motorcycle. Pretty neato cheetoh bike though.

Oooooooooooookkkkkkkkkk sooooo rude mommas

11k watts lol

Why not just get a small motorcycle for this price? Are people really pedaling these bikes?

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

Basically you can get away with riding these just about anywhere

get a ko for higher top speed

@JuicedJoyrides

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the battery or controller is still the limiting factor, but send it over KO 😜