Excellent review. My consideration to upgrade the Ford 9 speaker system on a reasonable budget would be as follows: keep the lower door woofer speakers as they appear to be the best in the system. No need for coax here since I would go with the infinity mid range speakers with tweeters in the upper door and mid dash area. I would actually leave the stock pillar tweeters alone too since the Infinity's will definitely fill the bill. As for the lower door speakers staying as woofers I would install an 8" subwoofer by OEM Plus Audio in the trunk which is reasonably priced and includes its own amp. The roll-off filters would be wired to those lower door speakers. As for the rear speakers I would replace them with good pair of coax, either by Infinity, Kicker, or Alpine.

Makes a lot more sense when replacing the 3.5" speakers to unsolder the short harness from the old speaker and move it to the new so that you can unplug them rather than cutting off the end of the wiring harness and directly connecting to the speaker. I just finished installing bass blockers and 3.5's in both the doors and the dash in my 2019.

@RaymondLamb

4 ай бұрын

Good tip, thanks for sharing .

I hope you maintained the proper polarity. That is very important for great sound. Another important thing is to make sure you try to get the speaker impedance right. The ohms ratings are something to consider given that in the past, car speakers were very efficient so they didn't require lots of power

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for the comment. I had a wiring diagram and tried to make sure everything was wired correctly, but there is always a chance something could have been backwards. Overall I was pretty happy with the turnout. Thanks again for the ideas though!

For others doing this, the new Infinity speaker will not fit the OEM black plastic ring mount so you will need to remove it. You can cut out the oem wire clip from the ring (keep a hole with the cut out connector and it can be attached to the unused 3rd bolt hole) and solder the leads to the new speaker or buy a generic 72-5600 Ford wire harness adapter which includes female spade connectors. I found that I still needed to shim the bolts out about 3/8" because the steel cone is slightly too large a diameter for the hole in the door. I used a 3/8" block of rubber under each attachment ear drilled for the bolt. I also used a strip of closed cell foam compressed under the speaker rim around the circumference to further isolate the speaker from the door metal.

@RaymondLamb

6 ай бұрын

Nice tips, thanks for sharing.

You do have an adapter for every speaker you replace in your car, I did it on my 2012 3.7 and now sense I bought a 2021 5.0 liter I plan to do the same with it. Just unsolder the wires off the original speaker and resolder it back on the new speaker. I love clean installs that don't mess with the factory wiring.

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

That's a good idea, but I hate soldering! I'll do it if I have to, but never liked it much. That's a good way to make sure it's on there good though.

@MrJeast

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing when I saw that connector.

Great video. I've got an '18 that came with the 9 speaker system. I was lucky enough to have the wiring in the trunk for the shaker sub. I added one from a parts car for pretty cheap and the bass is surprising. The stock door 6-½" may sound ok but I had one freeze up early on. I'm disappointed to hear that the Infinitys didn't work out there. What would you try if you had to replace them?

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

I think if you had something that wasn't a 2-way like what I had and just the woofer like from a component set, that might work out better overall. For some reason those Infinity's I tried didn't sound good at all. Good luck with it, hope you find something you like!

Thanks for the video I got a 2015 PP premium minus the subwoofer/ Navi. But same speaker locations. Can you confirm the center Channel & tweeter speaker harness are identical? I found metra 72-5600 on a few forms saying it works for a lot of ford tweeters as they used the same in a few years/ models Or use T-taps behind the oem wiring harness I’ve for 3.5s & tweeters?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry man, I can't remember if the center and tweeters where exactly the same. Worse case you could try those adapters if they aren't very expensive and if they work, great! If not, you could just tap the wires behind the oem connectors. I just went all in, and cut the adapter off and hardwired the new speakers in. Good luck with it!

Have a 2019 mustang gt with the B&O system. I am thinking of changing out the center deck speaker with a skar tx35 speaker. My daughter has a pink power wheels mustang with a 3.5 speaker in it so I bought a set of 2 way 3.5 inch speakers to swap that one out. With the left over speaker I'm going to try and run it in the center dash speaker to see if it adds some clarity to the center channel. Very excited to see how it goes. I know skar is mainly a subwoofer brand but I'm guessing their mid speakers have to be an upgrade over the cheap stuff ford puts in. Will update this comment after I try it out. I do have aftermarket bass. Two Illusion C10XL subwoofers running on a mosconi one 1000.D amplifier. So adding a touch more clarity up front would be a big step up. And if I can pull it off without spending hundreds of dollars I will be super happy.

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, rocking the power wheels! The infinity speakers brought much needed clarity over the absolute junk that came in my car, so I imagine you should see an improvement. Hope so, good luck!

Hi I’m pretty sure I watched the whole video and I’m not sure if I ever saw you connect the crossover or where you mounted it. Is it because the factory system already has it?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, you’re right! I hooked one up on one side and then tried the other side without it. The side without the added crossover sounded much better and brighter, so I went back and removed the one I already put in. I’m suspecting the factory crossover was more than enough and they are still doing great.

I had the shaker in mine and it was a really amazing system. I would assume the speakers they put were on an amplifier in addition to the sub because the 6.5 in the doors produced a ton of base. All the mirrors would shake if you had it cranked up lol.

@RaymondLamb

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good sound system, much better than what came in mine!!

How is it holding up? I am looking at getting the same for my 2020 mustang. I have been searching for different brands. I have a 12 inch kicker comp R sub, along with JBL in the rear deck. So you said the 6.5 door woofer is not worth buying? Stick with OEM?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Lance, I really like the infinity speakers and they are still sounding great. I have the same 3.5s in my RAM but I used JL Audio tweeters in that install. I had one speaker go out in the mustang and had to replace, but I think that was just poor luck, All the others in the truck and car have been doing great. I did purchase the matching infinity reference 6.5s 2-ways for the doors and I don't know if they couldn't handle the power of the stock system or what, but they were completely distorted and over driven at higher volumes and sounded terrible. I put the stock ones back in and have been satisfied. You might have more luck with a component set or something with woofer only, but for me, once I swapped the other stuff out, if was right where I wanted it. You might want to check out my other video on the FORScan EQ fix, as that made a huge difference in the output too. Made it sound even better. Let me know if there are other questions, good luck!!

You might have come out better with a 3 way speaker system to put in the doors and the 2 way 3 1/2" in the door. But with the tweeters in the A pillar, tweeters in the 3 1/2" and 6 1/2" you will have a TON of highs I imagine. With a nice 3 way system you would have the 6 1/2" for your low to midrange, the 3 1/2" for you mid to high range and the tweeters to handle the highs. Maybe if you redo it you can give that a try. Your nice three way components have a crossover that sends the exact frequency to the exact speaker in the 3 way kit. Also you might have replaced the factory center channel 3 1/2" speaker that was an 8 or 12 ohm with a 4 ohm and increasing the power to the speaker a fair amount.

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

I do have a TON of highs now (probably too much), on certain sources at higher volumes the stock 6.5s in the door do seem to have some mids/bass, but still not much. It sounds great and crystal clear, but lacking in the bass department something fierce. I'm planning on adding a subwoofer at some point, but it would still be nice to get a little more mids out of what I have.

@chesspiece81

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb I would leave the 3 1/2" you have and look into a nice 3 way kit. You have no shortage of tweeters between the A pillars, the center channel, and your midrange 3 1/2" in the doors. With a 3 way you would have a 6 1/2" mid bass driver a 3 1/2" or 4" midrange and the tweeters in the A pillars all crossed over so the right frequency went to the right speakers. You could also try and am the tweeters at the windshield to redirect the sound to reflect off the windshield and won't the tweeters pointed right at you. It should cut down how harsh they sound.

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Good point, I've been needing to upgrade the 6.5s in the rear deck too. Was going to try to find something that might provide a little more bass, since I'm overkill on the highs already.

@chesspiece81

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb If you plan on keeping the stock amp running everything do some research on what ohm the stock speakers are. Maybe put the Infiniti coaxials you had in the video in the rear deck and get a 3 way component setup in the front doors. Then reevaluate if you need a sub. I've always treated tweeters like salt and pepper, just a light sprinkling can make the meal but over do it and the entire dish is ruined. I hope that makes sense. I'm putting together a stereo for my Yukon and I'm doing 2 sets of Polk MM 6 1/2" components in the front doors. 2 of the tweeters in the A pillars and 2 of the tweeters in the doors with some Polk MM 6 1/2" coaxials in the back doors and 2 Image Dynamic 12" subs. I can adjust the tweeters output on the crossovers, amp, and headunit. I'll run the rear doors off the head unit and the front doors off the full range channels of the amp.

My mustang has the shaker system with the amp and 9 speakers. It's sounds ok but my 6.5 went out and I went with harmony speakers and they sound amazing and tons of bass

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Nice, might have to look into that, see if it helps mine, still very lacking in low end. I have high’s for days!

@johnalcala

Жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb Remember that bass can be thrown way off if the proper polarity is not maintained. In fact, it can almost give you a headache from the very unbalanced sound it can make.

Hooking the mids and tweeters up tomorrow. Did you use the capacitor when hooking up the mids? or just splice the speaker straight into the factory wire after cutting off the connector? Thanks.

@RaymondLamb

4 ай бұрын

I tried it with and without the capacitor before I put everything back together. I was happier with the sound quality in my setup without it. For some reason it just didn't sound right. I was never disappointed later that I didn't use it, and didn't have any issues.

@williammcgrath1709

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. I'll try that. Don't even know how to tie that in anyway. Thanks.@@RaymondLamb

Surprised they didn’t have wiring harnesses for everything? Crutchfield is usually good about that stuff.

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

I agree, they normally have everything, but for some reason at the time I did these they said they were custom. Just standard hookups, so maybe by now they have something.

I bought the same REF-3032's for my 2018 Mustang. Did you end up installing the capacitors included for the 3.5's on the door and center dash speakers?

@RaymondLamb

7 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly, I tested them with the capacitors and they sounded off or muffled. I believe I opted to leave them off. My thought was that the amp and system was already limiting what was being sent to those speakers to begin with and I didn't need to add an additional piece to it.

@deepfreeze117

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the fast reply. I installed the 3032's without the capacitors, 375TX's for tweeters, and PowerBass OE652-FD's for the woofers and, and everything sounds amazing. I also added heavy dynamat to the doors. Can't wait to mess with forscan EQ settings. Thanks for the tutorial! @RaymondLamb @@RaymondLamb

@RaymondLamb

6 ай бұрын

Sounds great! Glad it worked out for you.

How do you like the 3.5 center speaker?? I'm considering the reference or jbl club

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s been a good speaker, have 3 in my truck as well and they’re great. Provide good clarity and hear a lot more detail. I think if I was going to add amps and truly build it I’d use something a little higher end, but for stock system power, it works great.

The 3.5" speakers on my 2015 Ecoboost are stamped "8ohm 12.5w." I bought the same Infinity 3032cfx speakers. The Infinity speakers are low resistance 2ohm which is not a good match. Did you add 6ohm resistors to match resistance? Are there settings in Forscan to alter speaker resistance? Could that be what caused your center dash speaker to blow?

@RaymondLamb

6 ай бұрын

Hello! You are correct, the speakers are different ohms, and cause a difference in output volume compared to factory ones. I don't believe that the change or the FORScan changes caused the speaker to blow. I have three of these in my RAM and the three in the Mustang, and have never had another issue. I think it just must have been a bad speaker, not another problem since. Thanks, take care!

@mbo7613

6 ай бұрын

@RaymondLamb Crutchfield lists these as compatible with the car so fingers crossed. Did you install the bass blockers on the door mids or does the car stereo's integrated amp already take care of this? I only just discovered the bass blocking resistors in the notch on the outside of the styro-foam packing. Had no idea they were bass blockers.

@RaymondLamb

6 ай бұрын

@mbo7613 I did test them with the resistors or bass blockers but they didn't sound right to me in my setup so I took them back off. Sounded much better and more natural and never any issues. Once I did the Forscan change it was night and day better too.

Any issues with mounting the 3.5 inch speaker directly without the adapter?

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

Hey, none whatsoever. I was worried that mounting it with the bracket would cause the speaker to rub and vibrate against the door cover and cause problems. Mounting it flush still clears everything and didn't cause any issues at all. Hope that helps!

How did you plug the tweeter to the sensor or whatever it is connected to!?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, I had to cut that connector off that went to the factory tweeter (you can see it at 16:27 in the video) then I wired up the provided capacitor that came in the kit. Once I tested it with the capacitor I was less than thrilled with the sound output, so I removed it, cut the wires with the speaker terminal connectors off the capacitor, and wired it directly to the existing car wires. That ended up giving me the best sound and was happy with the results. Hope that helps!

@maikolpena9673

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb thank you so much🙌🏽

Where did you get the gasket for the Mid? Did you take it off the old bracket or did it come with the Infinity?

@RaymondLamb

4 ай бұрын

Hello, it came with the new speakers.

@williammcgrath1709

4 ай бұрын

Going to do the same set up in the same car with the mid and tweeter from infinity. I already changed the rear speakers with the Powerbass ones and that made a big difference already. How tough is it to remove and put back the pillar w/o breaking anything? Thats what Im worried about. And how is the velcro holding on the capacitor after some time?@@RaymondLamb

@RaymondLamb

4 ай бұрын

Sounds good, hope it goes smoothly for you. Getting the pillar out wasn't too bad, just don't rip the plastic retainer piece that hold it on, have to twist it to get it out. And then on reinstall, watch to make sure the corners are aligned correctly and don't scratch or dig into the dash. If I remember correctly, there is a small clip that holds it in place and that needs to be aligned right for it all go back together like factory. Otherwise everything everything worked out well. You may want to check this video out if you haven't, I wasn't completely happy with the output until I made this change: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kamcwbWrnN3adto.html

@williammcgrath1709

4 ай бұрын

I did. How difficult is to use Forscan, and did the check engine light come on after using it to tweak the audio? BTW, your videos are the best by FAR on how to work on these Mustangs! Thanks for the vids!@@RaymondLamb

@RaymondLamb

4 ай бұрын

Hey thanks a ton, I appreciate that. Forscan is not bad and the software allows you to take a backup to restore if something goes wrong. There are a lot of tips online to try different things. Never had any check engine lights with it or the custom tune.

Hey i changed my tweeters and they rattle at higher volumer do i need to put on the capacitor

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

You may want to try to add the capacitor and see if you fix the issue that way. I added the capacitor to start with, but felt like it limited them too much and ended up removing them and they sounded much better, so I don't have them installed. Are both speakers rattling or buzzing or just one? Could be a loose connection, but if both are doing it, I'm not sure.

Can you tell me what the final bracket install change was for 3 1/2?

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, I took the plastic spacer out completely because it had the speaker jammed against the door too hard. I left the foam insulation on the back of the speaker and mounted it directly to the metal door. Worked just fine. Hope that helps.

@happypuppy8221

Жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb thank you. I am about to upgrade my speakers based on your video. Great content. Also the loud chime was actually quiet as you noted. I had to turn off speaker chime in Forscan and turn off radio button tone

just ordered the 3.5 tweeters. did you use the bass blockers?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, no I didn't. I wired the 3.5s straight into the existing wiring. The tweeters did come with a capacitor to use, I tried it, didn't like the way it sounded, so I took it back out. Been running it like that since the beginning with no problems. Good luck with it!

@JennyCaldas0506

2 жыл бұрын

the capacitor is what I was saying is the bass blockers. can you tell me what it was that sounded different? now that you have had it on for a year, how are the 3 1/2 tweeters treating you? any chopping?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

@@JennyCaldas0506 the tweeters sounded dull or flat with it installed. I had previously installed some in my truck and they were very bright and sounded great. Removed the capacitor and they sounded much better and like I expected. They all are doing great still sound very nice. I need to add a sub as the mids and highs are now overpowering the bass. You should check out my other video on the FORScan audio tweak, it made a world of difference.

@JennyCaldas0506

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for the quick response. 🙏

Are the tweeters really worth upgrading? I was thinking just upgrading the 3.5” mids to the infinity’s and putting a sub in the trunk. Thoughts on this and how it would sound?

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

They do sound better than stock, but running everything off the stock amp there isn't a major difference. It wasn't until I did the FORScan change that it really woke up. See here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kamcwbWrnN3adto.html But I think if you updated the 3.5s in the door and the one in the dash and added a sub you would probably be plenty happy. Good luck with it!

Did you have the shaker audio system

@RaymondLamb

11 ай бұрын

I did not, no. Car might've sounded OK if that was the case, especially with a sub. But I imagine the 3.5s would still be the same cheaper versions though.

Oh man, the new pillar tweeter housings pop right out like a ripe zit with an eye in the center hahaha... Not my cup of tea, I prefer the stock recessed effect ... ;)

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Ha, nice description! Never thought about it until now, I'll never be able to look at them the same lol. At least they sound good.

Did you replace the rear speakers?

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

Hey, no, I never did. You have to remove seats and rear deck cover. It didn't seem worth it at the time. Plus after I did the FORScan update (see my other video) I was pretty happy overall.

@happypuppy8221

Жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb thank you.

Hey man I have the shaker audio upgrade and had the exact same 3.5 speakers, horrible lmao

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy that even the "upgraded" audio system still used the crappy speakers!

@KINGD2001

Жыл бұрын

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Hey can I pick your brain bout the install I have a 2023

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

Sure, I'll help if I can, what you have in mind?

I just put all Cerwin Vega component in my 2019 Ecoboost. Amazing sound for factory head unit. Was going to go with amp,but not so sure anymore, sounds amazing...pay big money for a new car and get complete shit speakers...BS

@RaymondLamb

3 жыл бұрын

I bet that sounds great. I’m pretty happy with the infinity speakers, but trying to go with something for the rear with a little more bass. I want to do the JL Audio stealth box one day but for now I’m satisfied. You’re right though, it’s pathetic what comes stock in these things.

@Aaftab80

11 ай бұрын

What model of speakers did young for?

And you know if they cost you 65$ that cost to make was $15 maybe. So that a car company wouldn't have these stock is insane.

@RaymondLamb

3 ай бұрын

That's the truth, and when they say they have "premium" audio in these vehicles, what they put in them sometimes is a joke!

Do you still have the setup?

@RaymondLamb

Жыл бұрын

I haven't changed it, it's still the same. I have the same 3.5s in my truck too and still really like them. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks.

Man...fire those interior designers at Ford. That dash looks horrid. Good choice for tweeter A pillar placememt though.

@RaymondLamb

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've definitely seen better!! Tweeters did work out good!

@joshymcdaniel9233

Жыл бұрын

@@RaymondLamb u seen the 14-18 mazda 3? Even worse 🤣 atleast his screen has a housing and isn’t just slapped on top of the dash with a downward angle’ hands down 2016 M3 is the worst dash/ center console I’ve ever had n a car