Indigenous Taíno fight Puerto Rico for visibility and rights
Smithsonian magazine reports that 61% of all Puerto Ricans have trace Indigenous Taíno DNA, but historians in the Puerto Rican government claim Indigenous Taíno people have been conquered and wiped out. “There never was a ‘conquest’...you can’t conquer that which still resists,” Indigenous activist Barbara Pluma Moreno Torres says.
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#puertorico #taino #indigenous
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I hope all the Native Americans of Peurto Rico,and other First Nation people of the world gets what they all want . I want those thing also for you all .🎉🇵🇷
@TheConservativeCrusader
12 күн бұрын
They wouldn't be native Americans. They'd be native Puerto Ricans. There are no pure blood Taíno Indians alive today. They would've looked much different than the Puerto Ricans claiming trible heritage. They don't want to do the DNA tests because they know that they're mostly Spaniard white, with a mix of African and possibly some Asian.
Numerous federally recognized tribes in the US have members with less % than most Puerto Rican yet are full citizens in their tribal nation. The desicion of who is Indian is really about power and who gets to wield it. In some places just one drop makes you Black no matter how you present, yet to be indigenous more than half is demanded. While the average Taino is 15% there are many who range in the 20 to 30%.and even higher has been found in a minority of cases. The point is that there is a double standard at play and that shows the racist element. The 62% of indigenous marker is totally through the maternal side and women carry and pass down the culture and life ways. Having African ancestry certainly does not lessen indigenous identities, this argument was used to erase the indigenous peoples east of the Mississippi especially in Virginia, and the Carolinas. The Lumbee tribe is a prime example of this type of abuse similar to what Taino are dealing with today.
@cynthiapickett8577
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's ridiculous 🙄; I have ancestry amongst the Mid-Atlantic tribes (Saponi, Nansemond, Lumbee amongst them) that are not recognized outside of the region.
@betterworld2958
Жыл бұрын
I'm 11 percent and my mother is in the 20s
@christominded4726
8 ай бұрын
If Elizabeth Warren can claim Indigenous right so can I. That fake b**** B as in Blond. lol😅
@Abstract.Noir414
Ай бұрын
No stop spreading false information
@thecampercook
29 күн бұрын
It is so they can steal land and resources. Some complete stranger called my home a couple of weeks ago to try to buy mine (almost four acres of forest) for practically nothing. As if I don’t know the value of a dollar! Thieves who want control.
Supporting Taino from 🇭🇹! We with you
@opparino4708
2 ай бұрын
We with you too. A lot of PR are asleep and they don't understand how important HT is for us. Y'all just need to use your Levite powers against the enemy. Not our brothers and sisters!
@nyckmoscato
Ай бұрын
@@opparino4708levite? u gotta be confused
@Zapp760
7 күн бұрын
@@sgm4545 the real tianos are extinct
The Tainos were not wiped out. There's a reason why many of us Puerto Ricans are tri-racial. Spanish/ African/ and Taino blood flows through our veins. I did an ancestry test via 23andMe and I have 15.2% Indigenous (Taino) ancestry. I am very proud to represent not only my Taino heritage but also my Spanish and my African heritage because at the end of the day I wouldn't be here otherwise.
@LoneWolfj11
Жыл бұрын
A geneticist already proved that Puertoricans have more than 15% of Indigenous DNA more so than any other Caribbean land. It was compared to a centuries year old Taino woman's bone. However, the CENSUS review to acknowledge it. Eraser, genocide, you name it, we've faced it.
@TheReaper1
Жыл бұрын
I’m quite the mix being from a Swede and Puerto Rican. I did ancestry dna recently and was surprised to see how much African, Senegal, Congo, Bantu tribes etc I had as well. The most interesting was the Taino I had (Viking on the Swede side was pretty interesting too not gonna lie lol) it was wild to see that they were brought to “extinction” with only 200 survivors. I searched KZread to see if there was any news about Taino people and it’s interesting to see others with trace amounts in their dna. It’s wild to think we came from the last 200 people that were natives of the island after comumbus arrived. I saw one of the quotes he wrote in a journal about the Taino as well. While most natives went to war with other tribes etc, the Taino were peaceful…. Too peaceful. He went on to say how well built they were and how easily they could be taken advantage of. Some messed up stuff. But it’s also crazy our ancestors were more than likely friends 400 years ago!
@LoneWolfj11
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReaper1 Same here! I had 15% indigenous dna, and about 14% from different countries in the African continent. Well look at it this way, for decades the CENSUS has been apart of that erasure. For example: labeling us as spaniards during the world war, and also recategorizing us as white or black when we would identify as indigenous in the census. I'm talking about early 1900's. We were never wiped out! Thanks for sharing :) Cristopher Columbus in his journal said we were beautiful, generous groups of people...he also said we would be great slaves. You have to read the stories written by the oppressed not the oppressors. The story gets twisted to fit their narratives at the time. We are resilient people and we are still here, it shows in our DNA. Now it's time that the Census stops denying it. Read "War against all puertoricans, a peoples history of the United States, and a personal favorite of mine "All the Indians died off: and 20 other myths about native Americans by Roxanne Dunbar". I have a bunch of recommendations if you need.
@thefpvlife7785
11 ай бұрын
@@TheReaper1 and Still today our American history claims that Christopher Columbus discovered America when we all clearly and transparently know no he did not.
@The_SixShooter
11 ай бұрын
21% here and cousin got higher than me 26% jeez we all still alive today yet mixed depend ancestor migrations like I have southern Denmark located and Irish about 5% and less then there's African just 8% then theres portguese and spaniard finally last 1% cuban and 5% maya/inca weird combinations i have.
My great grandmothers mother was pure Taino . Only the female lineage survived but Taino ancestry is absolutely existent and alive . When I drew a DNA sample turned out my quantum was 1/5 Taino (exactly 20%) and couldn’t be more proud to be ! 🇵🇷
@Wildflower687
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! When people try to tell me that the Taino women went with the Spaniard men “willingly”, I remind them of this fact. If it were “willing”, why would they feel the need to exterminate all the males from the island? There was nothing voluntary about this and our DNA proves it.
@nebhalabir1201
Жыл бұрын
WE WUZ TAINOS N SHI MAYN
@THEHIPHOPMAKER12345
11 ай бұрын
This does explain alot on why my mother looks so much like a native
@sncypotter1008
11 ай бұрын
apparently, I'm also a descendant
@makeuthink2120
11 ай бұрын
@@Wildflower687 "Willingly" what Puerto Rican women, in the U.S., are doing is prefering to be with Black/Afro-American men. It has been that way for a long time. Unless a Puerto Rican man is a pro-athlete or entertainer he has a slim chance to be with a Puerto Rican woman. In Puerto Rico the Dominican men, who are primarily the ones who arrive on yolas to the island (and who are also black! ) have a high success rate at finding a woman in Puerto Rico. What good would all this "I'am 10%, 12%, 15% taino" business mean in 100 years from now?
My great grandmother was Taína. I was raised by her and she shared many stories and the language with me. I tested my dna and I am 33% indigenous Puerto Rican (45% Colombian indigenous) & 41% identical alleles to Atunwa Inaru. We are still here 🦜
@YouAlreadyKnow2
9 ай бұрын
Yes we are. I’m 28% went up from 21% so likely gonna rise. ✊🏼🇵🇷
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I’m coming back here after discovering nearly 20% of my DNA is traced back to the Taino People. My desire to learn comes from my desire to keep my people alive.
@WhitePrivilegeDoesntExistButVi
8 ай бұрын
Bro, you look wyte and talk like a wyte dude. So, I don't believe you.
@peacebewithyou6055
8 ай бұрын
My Taino DNA is 18% , def interesting would love to visit there
@RickiHockersmith83
8 ай бұрын
I'm Jewish, Italian and Greek from my father side. Puerto Rican-Taino, White-Cuban mixed from my mother side. My Taino DNA is 20% as well, so it definitely from my mother side of the family. I am proud of my Taino bloodline heritage run through my vein. 😊👍
@UpstateIsraelite
8 ай бұрын
DNA can't trace you to a particular tribe. Also some Carib people and possibly others were brought to the island
@oops541
8 ай бұрын
@forcegeek6705 - Sorry, not sorry. You look like Whyte boi to me. Please stop lying to yourself...🙃
Grown up I hearing stories, but as someone who grew up in Puerto Rico, we where told that it was impossible. We are very spiritual people and when I saw my indigenous blood come out in the DNA test I got so emotional. I don't think it's necessary to have a DNA test to claim you Taino identity, but it was truly beautiful for me to see.
@raulm.danielm.4814
Жыл бұрын
@@llllii1768 dunno what that means
@llllii1768
Жыл бұрын
@@raulm.danielm.4814 que los indios tainos did not built anything like mayans or the machi pichi indians
@Pink_Empress
Жыл бұрын
@@llllii1768 indigenous * not Indian* Indian is what they called us when they murdered over 300,000 of us
@ToKyoBraZilBoriCua77
Жыл бұрын
The Tainos greatest achievement was sedentary agriculture. Lots of tribes in the Americas never achieved farming. The Taino are proud.
@adamhassan3511
Жыл бұрын
@@llllii1768 comments like yours as what causes division amongst tribes Mayans were cousins and it’s a fact that a lot of taínos did intermingle with Mayans
The original indigenous communities are not just still here.. they are our teachers.. they will always be here. They are.. the land.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
My grandmother, who lived high in the mountains of Jamaica and passed away in 1989, was a Taino they called her 'Sister Tain'i, and she looked just like the two women in this presentation!❤😮
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I fight this ignorance constantly. Mi abuelita taught me who I was and where we are from. Even the DNA test even says over 20% Taino but people will still look at me and tell me I don't exist ...it makes me weep
@erenjaeger1738
2 ай бұрын
I mean full indigenous are almost gone.
@Zapp760
29 күн бұрын
I mean…what’s the other 80% do you ever think about setting your ego to the side and actually respecting the real Tianos that have departed? why is it important to claim a murdered group of people and displace their image?
@Follower_of_Yahusha
25 күн бұрын
@@Zapp760wow bro. You need a heart check.
@Zapp760
6 күн бұрын
@@Follower_of_Yahusha yall need a reality check.
This was amazing! I got chills. ❤
We are still here taino and proud
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@aliyahnunez4182
4 ай бұрын
@why are you commenting the same thing under every single comment
@nenaj1
Ай бұрын
Ur not 100%
I read the whole story of the Puerto Rican somewhere. The Puerto Ricans got their respect because we fought and won many times… proud to be a Puerto Rican
Solidarity with the Taino people. You don’t need anyone else to recognise your identity for it to be real but it would be good if the Anglo Americans and the Latinx would be confident and generous enough to see that mutual respect benefits all. Love and best wishes from anglophone Ireland, sadly I can’t speak my native tongue fluently. A legacy of colonialism and the attempt to sublimate our culture and identity into theirs. ✊🏼
@fennix18able
Жыл бұрын
😂this people are no taíno are a comunist group created to advance the independent for Puerto Rico. This people is a fake taino
@dangercat9188
Жыл бұрын
Don't call us latinx. Idk how many times I have to tell people how offensive this is to us LATINOS and how offensive it is to the spaniah language. Stop the woke crap bud.
@friedchicken4735
11 ай бұрын
Latinx is a slur
Thank you John for a facinating series!
I got tested and found I have 21% Taino and my husband is 26% and we are very proud of it ❤❤❤❤
@ilimari
10 ай бұрын
@indiojazzikr and I have a friend who’s very into ancestry and she told me she knows people who got 30%
@Solaris_Paradox
10 ай бұрын
@@ilimariPuerto Rico? No. Borikén? Yes.
@The_SixShooter
9 ай бұрын
That mean if u guys have kids, ur children gonna be higher % little bit since I learnt in ancestry two parents 21% and 26% u and ur husband got might give ur kids like 35% or around 47% depend on other races combined.
@CBBBJ
Ай бұрын
Where did you get your dna test done ??
Most governments will find a way to take your land, if P.R. Becomes a State then the government can take the land when the poor can’t pay property taxes, or when someone dies inheritance tax will make the family sell their land if they can’t pay.
@llllii1768
Жыл бұрын
The goverment usa already took the land they own it americans can move in and buy up beach properties
@prod.kuwanzee
Жыл бұрын
@@llllii1768 seen a video where they were saying the island is covered with airbnbs now
@JosueMartinez-ww1vj
11 ай бұрын
Like it happened with Hawaii, almost no one who was a Hawaiian born in Hawaii has a house, they were displaced by the rich.
@santos8578
10 ай бұрын
@@llllii1768but the people don’t have to sell their lands. It’s still a choice.
@llllii1768
10 ай бұрын
@@santos8578 sadly they have to where will they live
Historians, like scientists, always make bold statements, only to find out years later that those statements would not accurate. To say completely wiped out is simply hyperbole.
This was an amazing episode!
My family is from Puerto Rico, specifically Ponce area and I have indigenous ancestry as well Spanish, Portuguese and west African. Its important to reserved the history, stories, and culture of the Taino people. For many of us Puerto Ricans all we know and told is history and names of those who colonized the island. We don't know about the stories of natives as well the various African enslaved people and their orginal language and culture.What little we do know, is woven into Puerto Rican culture but it diluted. I very much support those Tainos who live today who haven't forgotten and are fighting to keep it alive.
@The_SixShooter
9 ай бұрын
My grandma also born from Guaraguao (red tailed hawk), Ponce! My DNA mixed with 26% portguese, 22% spaniard and 21% Taino rest Denmark Irish African etc from 8% to below. 👍🏼
@assafiyahijab
Ай бұрын
Same goes to palestine land right now.. the original people fight for their land and never left
Such a beautiful ceremony. I'm boricua and i honestly say i would love to join in that ritual because I want to feel closer to my ancestors and closer to my roots. May God bless and be on the side of of them all in their fight for justice and rights over the taino land.
@christominded4726
8 ай бұрын
Those folks are doing brujería. 😮
@sayajinmamuang
8 ай бұрын
@@christominded4726 according to who??
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@sayajinmamuang
5 ай бұрын
@ don't see how your question is relevant to my post or the video. But what's your point?
@aidend0
2 ай бұрын
late answer but no it doesnt. i’m taíno and our past culture is dead and its good that people want to spread it.
This is why it's important to do your research first before making assumptions
This is an unpopular opinion: As Boricuas, we have a large triad of cultures with some nuances interspersed throughout. It is largely Taino, African, and Spanish. We are at a pivotal point in history; we can decide to either continue placing prominence upon our Spanish ancestry and continue the status quo. Haven’t we done that enough? We speak Spanish. In some parts of the island we even want to SEEM Spanish. I say it’s time we begin prioritizing our Taino and African ancestry. Being that our Taino history is disjointed and hard to piece together at times (due to the injustices we’ve suffered), it seems like we have to attempt to keep our history, culture, and traditions alive. However, we also have to bring this into the future. We have to be the ones that decide what being Taino means to us NOW. The closest I can think of is Afro-Taino Futurism. It begs the question: what does it mean to be descendants of Africans and Tainos in 2023? What do we do with this? I think it’s important to love both of these cultures because they both suffered in unimaginable ways, and could use the front seat. Spanish has been in the forefront for far too long. Time to start teaching these languages in schools. And this blood quantum stuff is insane. If anything the fact that all of us have even 1% of indigenous blood is a testament to our ancestors. They are still, and will always be with us.
@YUCAYEQUE
10 ай бұрын
A portion of taínos have negligible African ancestry so one cannot paint a brush but I understand for many it makes sense being the categories are typically close in percentile results resulting in a more phenotypically tri racial result.
@newenglandlofi4195
10 ай бұрын
@@YUCAYEQUE i agree 100%. And I mean that specifically for people like myself that have a surprisingly balanced mix of the 3, (in my case slightly more Spanish, slightly more African, and the smaller percentage of the 3, Indigenous) it becomes more of a philosophical idea similar to Afro futurism. For the trigueños out there we have to decide for ourselves how we express that culture.
@YUCAYEQUE
10 ай бұрын
@@newenglandlofi4195 It isn’t a surprising result with Ricans that range from mid teens African to even as high as 30 percent. I do see the surprise with balanced percentages.
@lmf5299
2 ай бұрын
@@YUCAYEQUEDo you hear yourself Yucayeque? You are sounding like a racist Evangelical Anglosaxon. And I am sure you are not that. Don't let the anglos racialize your brain. We Puerto Ricans are on average about 60 to 75 per cent Spanish. The Spaniards were not racists like the anglos who always racialize everything. They believed and still believe in Mestizaje. Even the King there was recently talking about it and how good it is. The Anglos? They are all about races, ethnic purity, racial groups and separation. The indians in the Caribbean were not killed or wiped out, they just became one with the Spaniards through mestizaje. Don't believe La Leyenda Negra always coming from the British and other anglosaxons against Spain. It's all a bunch of envious lies.
@Abstract.Noir414
Ай бұрын
Thousands of french, irish, corscian and italians etc settled into puerto rico after the 1810s
Daka Taino, let our voices be heard!
My great grandfather is Taíno and still alive 104.
@Ramfisdt.presidentePED2024
6 ай бұрын
Im From D.R my great grandfather is 101 he look spaniard has full set of white hair 😂😂 but ik he got some taino in him aswell
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@Alove9
4 ай бұрын
@ maybe years ago , not so much now. Reading the Bible we are scared amongst all nations. Soul is key not flesh.
@Alove9
4 ай бұрын
Same lol white hair @@Ramfisdt.presidentePED2024
I have 21% Taino (DNA tested )
I visited this location and it was breathtaking. Totally recommend.
I met John at a book club in Berkeley he is such a great man bro. And one of my favorite actors.
In unity, love, harmony and respect with our Taino family. It's time to unify us all as the guardians of these lands belonging to mother nature and take ones again ownership of our duty on this Earth. Receive the greetings from my sacred heart, my soul and oness with all, a sister a descendant from the Mayan, Olmec Aztec lineages. Hugs 💕
Thank you so much‼️I have always loved John Leguizamo but wasn’t expecting this wonderful piece. It’s so sad I’m 50 yrs old and still trying to find my truth.
This is amazing we need to do all is possible for our culture. Greetings from cusco. Inca
I really cherish all the things that these people and other Puerto Rican communities are doing to rescue the taino culture or heritage, and at the same time I wish my dominican brothers and sisters put the same passion as well. *Aplauso para los boris!!* 👏💙🤍❤
Taino males were enslaved by the Spanish settlers after 1508, and their life expectancy as slaves, was about 7 years, according to Ricardo Alegría. Even the Catholic Church, had about 50 slaves to each parish. First Taino upraising occurred in 1510 and most settlers on the Western part of the Island were killed. Ponce de Leon returned with a vengeance and neutralized the male population in Guainia. Many ran to the mountains to avoid the white devils, while others went south, today Venezuela.
I remember finding out that Assyrians still existed.
@ToKyoBraZilBoriCua77
Жыл бұрын
😂 same. I was shocked given how ancient they are. Their language is also intact
@Raccon_Detective.
10 ай бұрын
A lot of Taínos in PR were forced to pick "something else" on the census to make it look like they were truly "eradicated". A paper genocide.
Wow that brought tears to my eyes.~~~
I am half Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 and according to two different DNA tests, I am only 3 generations from a full blooded taino ancestor. I keep feeling a call within me to learn my heritage, learn my culture. I grew up with some of the PR culture but I feel drawn to the taino side as well. I hope to learn it and teach it to my children!
Only a DNA test will prove or disprove whether anyone has Taino in them.
I learned today that 14.6% of my DNA is traced back to Taino. I’m mixed, so I know my dad’s DNA would have shown higher if he was still alive. I’m proud to be here and learn about this part of me.
Why is it so important for other people to label who we are? Really, why?
@drebugsita
Жыл бұрын
As you can see it has legal and political significance. If they are not legally recognized they do not have the automatic political power to protect their land from being taken and turned into hotels, etc
@bilbohob7179
5 күн бұрын
@@drebugsita their land?? what land? Their private land? Are they not cititzens? Oh wait PuertoRicans are not citizens in their land? WOW
@bilbohob7179
5 күн бұрын
@@drebugsita You have a totally "colonized" mind, congrats
I been there as a kid that’s crazy I’m looking at the photos now 🇵🇷
Modern “taínos” are LARPers. They were wiped out indeed. My ancestors wiped out the taínos 500 years ago. Yes some Caribbean islanders still have some Taino blood because of something that anthropologists call “the founder effect” which happens when everyone in a community descends from the same small group of founders. I’m from a small town in Cuba. Both of my parents have the exact same percentages in their dna tests despite being completely unrelated. They’re both 9% indigenous Cuban (Taino). That is extremely high for the entire island and way above average. I would find it extremely disrespectful to actual indigenous communities to identify as “Taino” when I have no knowledge of their language, culture, customs, etc. Not to mention the rest of my DNA is Spanish (European).
I’m 28% Puerto Rican Indigenous! And proud!
Support taino from 🇩🇴
We are a people and proud.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
Just found out I am 30% Indigenous Puerto Rican. This is pretty fascinating. Thank you for the video!
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
My mom is Taino Indian too her grandma lived too 114 years old
If you haven't read the first-hand accounts of what happened to the Taíno people... I don't know. I think it was a priest who documented what happened. It was extreme.
@KissyRitzy
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no, the majority of Tainos died of Spanish diseases that their bodies were not equipped to fight. They were turn to slave but since they were not used to hard labour also perished and you have the ones that bravely fought and also died. At the end they were erradicated, at least in my island of The Dominican Republic they were.
@casalasfiguraspriscila5132
Жыл бұрын
Y trajeron africanos q eran mas fuerte q resistían es por eso q el por ciento q mas se tiene es de africanos y españoles
@dianegron
Жыл бұрын
@@KissyRitzy Thanks for bringing it up (specially the diseases). Many of this soplapotes have no clue what the taínos history is and create a show for whatever reasons. I would respect anyone who take their time to seriously study our ancestry and bring it in a responsible and realistic way for others to learn.
Beautiful ❤
I’m 24% Tahino 🇵🇷
Arawak Boricuas have always been in our blood as Puerto Ricans.
How can I get in contact with them? I want to learn more about my heritage.
Me and my father's beautiful town of "Otoau" Utuado. I pass that place many times and the most beautiful thing is to see the mountain "El Cemí" as a background. And while you drive on 111 road towards Angeles and Lares, you actually go right in front of those mountains and it's just beautiful. I might have been born at the states which I'm grateful, but genetically I am puertorican and that Taino blood runs through my veins, especially from my mother's side. My abuela is a glimpse of the past ❤. Her features are 100% Taina, just beautiful ❤.
I’m Taino n still here on Earth n I have kids for the next generation to come 💪🏽🇵🇷🤙🏽
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Great job big fan of lenguazamo ,after watching his acting in empire ,tainos are a beautiful people
After doing one of those DNA tests it shows I am 30% Spain 25% Portugal 20% native Puerto Rican (Taino) and the other 25% majority from Africa and some traces from all over Europe. On my my mom's side everyone has blond hair with blue or green eyes and white skin on my dads side they are truly natives!
@syeofficial2351
Жыл бұрын
appearance isn’t the primary tell of indigenous lineage . Say this experience , as like you I am also 20% Taino and my mothers sides seems they would be more Spaniard/Portuguese (lighter skin , light brown hair) and my father side the prodominantly indigenous (black hair , dark eyes , bronze skin) but as it turned out my mother came out with 19% Taino and my fathers significantly more African lineage mixed with native Taino so his quantum was slightly lower . My point here , don’t disqualify your mothers indigenous lineage through mere appearance - she might be more Taino than you !
@The_SixShooter
11 ай бұрын
@@syeofficial2351extactly the appearance can be tricky best to look into DNA, since any race that mixed and born can be any color skins hair eyes no matter like lighter skin dude but dna got more Indigenous blood or African you never know.
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
@vicka.3696
5 ай бұрын
@AntonellaBriceno I don't let that bother me. People are always going to do what they want, and no one can control them.
My parents and grandparents were from Guacio San Sebastian. My maternal grandfather told me a few times that his great, great etc. grandfather was Taíno and that he rebelled against the Spaniards. He had to flee way up into the mountains and they used dogs to pursue and search for him. I'm not sure how that ended but my dear grandpa who we always called ' Pito ' looked a lot like a Taíno. Two of his ten children look a lot like Taínos as well but my mom, his daughter, looks completely European; oh well, you know how we are. 😅
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
I have been looking at comments from so many different types of cultures on different identity videos. This is what i know. 1. Those who claim their indigenous identity, connect with the tribes of PR ( and there are tribes) and belong to that nation are infact Indigenous 2. People in the comments no matter if its irish identity , Native Identity , African so on always differ in oppinion. DONT LET THAT DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS> IF YOUR INDIGENOUS ANCESTORS CALL YOU GO FIND THE ELDERS AND THE COMMUNITY!
Have these people had DNA tests. What is their percentage of Taino.
@userOmi-sensei
13 күн бұрын
Probably not.
WE are still here!
I found it to be amazing in took the ancestry DNA. I'm actually native indigenous Puerto Rican !!
@chrisnarvaez3434
25 күн бұрын
Same
@urfiredude0048
25 күн бұрын
@@chrisnarvaez3434 I'm literally 15%
My mom is taino and my grandmother was most likely 95% taino
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
As a child of Puerto Rican parents... We learned from them how Puerto Ricans are of three Culturas... Taino, African and Spaniard... We always called ourselves as the "Rainbow People" Unfortunately, the Tainos of the1600's were almost wiped out by Columbus and other Spainard's travelers of the 1600's and beyond... Throughout all of the Caribbeans....
Sorry, but the Spaniards couldn't keep their hands off those beautiful Tainas. We needed to make more beautiful babies with them. Best stock around. That's why Puerto Rico is overwhelmingly mestizo (Spanish/Indigenous). They're already recognized in the current Puerto Rican genetic makeup.
@YUCAYEQUE
10 ай бұрын
Sorry to say but Puerto Rican females settle mostly with blacks. Puerto Rico has the lowest birthrate the world
🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹im Taino....my mom hair her eyes was different . Taino lived in all the Caribbean, they made boat so they traveled to different islands that's why we love the ocean..... Haiti -Cuba Puerto Rico - and the rest of the Caribbean are Taino
What percent does the government want? How much is enough?
What interesting is i've read 17% Taino dad and 10% taino mom passed to children obtained 27% according to new ancestry's 2 parent's dna splits revealed.
The Royal census of Puerto Rico in 1834 established that the island's population as 42,000 enslaved Africans, 25,000 colored freemen, 189,000 people who identified themselves as whites and 101,000 who were described as being of mixed ethnicity.
@KissyRitzy
Жыл бұрын
It's very interesting isn't it. In my island (The DR) our Tainos were indeed eradicated! The people that that the biggest % of Tainos' DNA was %2
@TemplePriestess
Жыл бұрын
There was also a paper genocide by labeling and generalizing those that were not either European or African as white, even though they weren’t.
I found the site. I am going to watch. The Puerto Rican comedian is talking
as a born and raised Puerto Rican NOPE they are not full Taino so no. we all have Taino blood but a not full taino.
@teovu5557
11 ай бұрын
i know right.....these ladies look like typical spaniards and southern Europeans.....so weird they claim to be real Tainos....real Natives Americans of north and south America look Asians from Siberia...example look up "Ket people, siberia" who have the same Ydna Q as Tainos and other natives of america.
@userOmi-sensei
13 күн бұрын
I agree i was born in PR there’s no exist 100% full blood Taino.
Pedro Albizu Campos spoke on the hypocrisy of the US of A...if only he were alive today.
El video es más opinión que hechos. Todos los lugares como centros ceremoniales y bateyes tuvieron que ser rescatados y excavados y declarados lugares arqueológicos. El planteamiento de pertenencia no aplica aquí pues implicaría que cualquiera puede reclamar cualquier lugar arqueológico.
@bilbohob7179
5 күн бұрын
Es propaganda.
I'm not even a minute into this video & I want to make a comment. BTW: a great subject for a video (as even before I knew I had AmerIndian ancestry I was quite interested in AmerIndian Peoples). 😎👍 Had I seen that opening classroom shot where you tell of the extinction of the Taino up to as far as last month, I would have simply taken your word for it. Until this month I didn't even know about the Taino, per se (now I might have run across it several decades ago in a Native American Studies course at CSULB & then quickly forgotten as the course didn't go into any great depth on any tribe, but was rather a broad, cross-country sweep across American Indian history & culture where the "extinct" peoples might have gotten a sentence or three in the textbook); however, just this month I received an Advanced Ancestry Analysis report from CRI Genetics with which I had my DNA tested & to my surprise* it listed Puerto Rican: Taino Genotype (perhaps based upon the DNA extracted tooth from some skeletal remains found at a dig in Puerto Rico not so many years ago); so, whether or not a remnant of the tribe remained intact upon Puerto Rico, Taino "blood" (or DNA) goes on in those currently living today. * = I had no idea of any connection to Puerto Rico. My dad was adopted by a White couple of European decent & raised as White. He went on to marry a gal who looked quite White & only knew of White ancestry, some of it fairly-well documented; so, my older sister & I, being their children, were raised as White. I told my mom that I thought dad looked a bit Asian & perhaps Native American, but she argued he looked German. Turns out he was all that & likely more (CRI Genetics is unable to tell from which parent any particular inherited ethnic marker in one's DNA came from; so, while I know what I've inherited, I can't really say with absolute accuracy what came from any particular parent - esp because there's some overlap of shared ethnicities as well).
The odd thing is that in the mainland USA people with less Native American DNA ,basically white or black are recognized as Native American tribes .Being that 60% of Puerto Rico has Taino ancestry. They would have to acknowledge many people as Native Americans
@hailoweenhailoween5264
9 ай бұрын
I'm full native american from Arizona. I don't get how the American government can recognize white and black people with 1 or 2% of native ancestry as official tribes. The Native American population in the United States is 9 million and only 3 million of them are full bloods.
@Abstract.Noir414
Ай бұрын
Native American tribes recognize them through history and historical records you cant say that for PR since some have a bit of racial animosity of being of part african origin its discounted via glorification of taino
great
They are described as hairless, broad face, with very pronounced cheekbones, lips a little thick and very good teeth
Anyone else think that younger woman in the white dress was GORGEOUS 😍
We were conquered and we had to pretend that 'we no longer exist' in order to survive. We were assimilated to a certain point that the real lyrics of the PUR National Anthem had to be purged because it sounded too 'revolutionary'. And still today, it is sung.
That’s the American history. Spanish history, first 8 years of colonization all the atrocities were made. Until queen Isabella prohibited slavery and the bad treatment of indigenous people. Also there are still taino people in the oriental part of Cuba. The Taino mostly blended with the Spanish.
Barbara Pluma Moreno Torres! She’s stunning, she’s just beautiful .. 😍🥰
My stepfather is 🇵🇷 Taino 🪶and always embraces his indigenous roots
Me gustaría saber más .soy de p.R. traducirlo al español.gracias
Sii, algunos escaparon a las montañas!!
Hank's Partner in detective mode
I'm an Indigenous American/Jamaican ARAWAK-LOKONO-TAÍNO CACIQUE CHIEF!
Yea just let them live
May this culture flourish and thrive once more ❤
After all of this in P. R. and his show on finding Latinos in America, John will be totally up to date on Latin history and the US diaspora of Latinos. I wonder what he’s going to do with all of that information
I am gifted and here to serve !!! I am Indigenous apart from many things. I also speak Taino when calling on spirit my birthmark is the the shape of Puerto Rico . I am currently holding ceremony here in the California the name of The name of my sacred space is Manifested Lab Here in Corona, California. How can I help.
Leguizano: los puertoriqueños con origen o sangre taina tienen los mismos derechos y son tan visibles como el resto de sus compatriotas
Crazy
Im a Puertorican woman from new york. The tiano indian bloodline is very much alive. As unfortunate it can be the government is suppressive. Keep the general public aware of what is going on. God bless the island of puertorico.
@Solaris_Paradox
8 ай бұрын
Puerto Rico? No. Borikén? Yes.
5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you a question. Does it bother you when people in Europe dress up as indigenous people?
Taino is on the verge of extinction. The pride in everyone claiming to be “full blood” Puerto Rican but in the same breath say Puerto Rican/ Boricua isn’t a race is the exact reason why on average everyone is 20% indigenous or less.
In 1933 with the death of Tommy Soloman the NZ government declared that the Moriori people of Rekohu / Chattam islands had gone extinct , as he was rhe last full blooded Moriori . But he and others had decedents and they are still alive today . Today these decedents are recognized as Moriori officially by the one drop of blood rule .
Agh,I would hate to see this beautiful are developed/destroyed.keep it sacred.Too many sacred sites around the world have been desecrated .It would be an insult to their ancestors .
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even if they were no Taino WHY WOULD THEY DEVELOP SUCH A SITE!!!!
My famlhy are going to Cuba next month iso is thare a place on the island where there are people of pure/ mixed taino blood
I’m 36% taína.
Indigenous Taino From Cuba 🇨🇺 we dont confine to colonial view points and we don’t do blood percentage! We are still here!