Sorry for it being so late - you can probably work out some of why from the length (and trimming it to a palatable run time).

@JustinCoasters

Жыл бұрын

Why trim? Your voice is soothing and a delight

@jamesatkinsonja

Жыл бұрын

No worries always love to hear your take and have been looking forward to this and appreciate the research [such as the cut piece from Raiders].

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

I think even for me, 30 mins on just one film might be a little indulgent. So I managed to tighten it up a few minutes in the edit.

@alfje5492

Жыл бұрын

You could say that you trimmed it down to a movie-paletable run time... I'll get my coat...

Am I the only one who is tired of Indy continuing to disbelieve in the supernatural? He has laid hands on the Ark of the Covenant and was there when it opened. A man dove his LITERAL HAND into your chest and grabbed his heart. He PERSONALLY met a knight who had been alive for CENTURIES and used the Holy Grail to heal his father. And like it or not, he established a psychic connection to the skull of an extradimensional being and witnessed that being teleport away in a spacecraft. It's like Kaiba in the dub of Yu-Gi-Oh!. How can he possibly not believe that supernatural forces like magic exist after everything he has gone through.

@eamonndeane587

Жыл бұрын

Gosei: "There's a SIMPLE Explanation for That...."

@montaigo13

Жыл бұрын

@@eamonndeane587 you probably did not know I was a Power Rangers fan when you posted that comment, but thank you for that amusing moment

@eamonndeane587

Жыл бұрын

@@montaigo13 My Pleasure.

When I looked at Dial Of Destiny's production history, I discovered that even going back to the franchise's beginnings, there was always an intention to make four sequels. We just never thought that it would take 42 years for it to become a Pentalogy.

As someone who actually likes Crystal Skull, the fact that they're trying to do the same "you abandoned me" storyline without mentioning Indie's *_biological son_* is kinda insulting. Speaking of which, George Lucas actually contributed to the initial draft of the script. It was his idea to introduce aliens and the Cold War to make more less like a 30's adventure serial and more like a sci-fi B-movie.

I’m that controversial bloke who hates Temple of Doom, and didn’t really mind Crystal Skull. And I liked Dial of Destiny, even if it doesn’t so much as touch Raiders and Crusade. I just want to add since it wasn’t in the review, John Williams’ score so thoroughly propels the action, and it’s terrific stuff.

Ok, I know that Mutt Williams in the last movie didn't have many fans, but did that *really* warrant him being killed off in-between films? It's the same issue as with Rose Tico in _The Rise of Skywalker_ in that instead of fixing the contentious character, they just sweep them under the rug. I mean come on, it's Indiana Jones' _son_ for crying out loud! You really couldn't tell any more stories with him and his father? And if Shia LaBeouf was that problematic, just recast him! It's becoming really obnoxious with how Hollywood is just allergic to the idea of recasting roles. It's always either digital de-aging or CGing over a body double that's the norm these days. I really think you could have done a proper "passing the torch" story with Indy and Mutt getting to properly bond as father and son on Indy's last adventure. You might say that it would come across as a retread of _Last Crusade_ but I think with enough tweaks and effort you could make something that stands on its own two legs. You could have even had an ending that's a callback to the ending of KOTCS where Mutt tries on Indy's hat but instead of taking it Indy let's his son keep it since he's earned it now. I just can't help but feel there was a lot of missed opportunities to take with Mutt's character but they just completely dropped a bridge on him and called it a day.

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

They could have made them estranged, like they did with Rick and his son in Mummy 3, and just use a new actor if Shia was unavailable, as they reconcile. But then, they could not have introduced a new strong female character, eh? 'cause that is what this franchise needed, thanks Kathleen Kennedy. (I hope unrelated to the real Kennedys, they would be ashamed of her meddling).

@eamonndeane587

Жыл бұрын

​@SwiftNimblefoot Personally, I'd have cast Boyd Holbrook as Mutt Williams (replacin Shia in the role).

The New York scenes where mostly shot in Glasgow and I was there to see the chase with indy on the horse being rode by a stuntman.

This was better than Skull, which has three unforgivable story parts in it (in ascending order: vines, fridge, ancient aliens) without getting into the train wreck Shia's become. For all its faults, though, it does have memorable scenes, and I love Cate Blanchett even with her inconsistent accent. It also has the benefit of ending on a happy note. This one, honestly aside from the (spoiler) scene with Indy looking at actual history, I'm not going to remember, and part of that is because of how miserable Indy is after the (enjoyable but too long) prologue, and the reason for said misery. This is an action -adventure series first and foremost. I see these to escape. The last thing I want such a film to do is remind me of how much real life can suck. The way it's handled here just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. You want Indy to be a little depressed? He's being forced into retirement. Helena wants his help to find the artifact. Indy's reluctant, but Marion convinces him to go. Mutt on the other hand has his own family. Done. The rest of the movie plays out practically the same. On your point of Helena being like Marion, I'm just going to quote Marion from Raiders: "Until I get back my five thousand dollars, you're gonna get more than you bargained for: I'm your goddamn partner!". That sure sounds like a similar motivation to me. 👍

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, nobody wants to see their heroes die. James Bond never died - until now. They can just always recast the actor and keep going, same for Sherlock Holmes, Poirot, Tarzan, etc. They should have done that. The guy who played young Han Solo was a good likeness, but I am sure they could find a better one if they tried. But no, they want to transition the series to a new female led Indiana Jones... not realizing that will just never fly. This movie flopped hard too, so any plans they had probably got axed too.

I had fun with the movie despite being messy at times, mainly as I went in just wanting a good night at the movies and seeing Ford as Indy one last time rather than expecting it to be comparable to the original trilogy.

One minor head's up. In the US Le Man's 66 was called Ford v. Ferrari. I had to go to IMDB to figure out what movie you were talking about. Using both names would have avoided confusion for a lot of Americans.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I keep forgetting which way around the titling is, and hoped the poster appearing onscreen would clarify.

I’d like to see this film, when it pops up on streaming. At this point (I’m old enough to have seen the series when they came out), it’s nostalgia. I’ve aged with the Indiana Jones movies. Great review, Matthew. 😀

Overall the movie was fine, not quite on the level of the original trilogy but still a decent entry in the series. One criticism i can make however is the feel of the movie is a little flat, missing that Spielberg/Lucas element of comedic timing and charm that the others have. Overall a good send off to the character, a little bittersweet.

Great review. Love the hat.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is actually an officially licensed bit of Indy merch I wore at a costume dance in my teens and have kept and used periodically - it was seen all the way back in the Seraphim Falls review.

@r.a.r.1981

Жыл бұрын

You look very dapper wearing it. :)

It does sadden me that this film flopped so badly. It’s not a perfect movie, but it’s the only Indiana Jones movie that I saw in cinemas and I was hooked from start to finish and I walked out of the cinema feeling good. And it got me to go back and watch the other movies.

I honestly liked this movie, and it is so weird that there are people who treat that as a personal attack.

@shawklan27

Жыл бұрын

People take film discourse WAAAAAYYYY too seriously nowadays

@92Raider-art

Жыл бұрын

No suprise there. Diffrent opinions are treated that way no mater what in todays society

@starscreamthecruel8026

Жыл бұрын

I just came home from the cinema two hours ago from seeing it and I loved it. Who cares if the lead female answers back to Indy? People do that in the real world, all the time. It didn't stop him arguing back. I get tired of watching one person leading everyone else around by the nose and no one objects or has an opinion on that. Too many people are bitching about "Oh the female lead keeps talking down to Indy", so what? It didn't stop him or even slow him down. Shes supposed to be unlikable, thats the whole point. Its a glance back to when he was slightly less ethical in what to do with all the items he had *liberated* from sites in the past and besides she does the right thing in the end, so what's the problem?

@stevenjohnson7442

Жыл бұрын

The main problem with this movie is that it's packed with plot holes! Apart from that I thought it was ok. We I recommend this movie...no!

@DroosterH

Жыл бұрын

I'm an old school fan. This is my third favourite Indy film, just behind Raiders and Doom.

Waller-Bridge in an Indy film is literally nightmare fuel. There's no place like home, there's no place like home.... !!

If they ever, EVER bring this franchise back after Harrison Ford passes on we had better, as a society, start burning down Disney's property. He has been VERY clear that this character gets buried with him and I for one see no reason to question that for a single second. He IS Indy. When he's gone, so is Indy. Let Star Wars keep expanding its universe, Indy belongs in a museum

@Morbos1000

Жыл бұрын

I think the idea is to create a spinoff series with Phoebe Waller-Bridge rather than bring in a new Indy.

@samwill7259

Жыл бұрын

@@Morbos1000 I can live with that, the worst kind of fans will blow a gasket and that gives it automatic points from me

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

@@Morbos1000 Nobody will watch that.

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

@@samwill7259 LOL those are ONLY fans who watched this movie. Check online reports, pretty much only people over 40 watched this movie. Nobody will be interested in nosy lady's not-Indiana Jones, just as much as nobody cared about Rey after three movies.

I feel like Banderas is in there because they decided that they didn't want to kill Sallah. Side note, given that Rhys Davies' own accent was really showing through, I was honestly surprised that they didn't have a reveal that Sallah was the name he took when he converted to Islam to marry Fayah.

I fully support their decision to go nuts and send Indy and the Nazis back to 200 BC. I love the look Mikkelsen gives when he realizes they have failed tremendously. Is he the only villain to get a very non-epic death? His plane just crashes and he dies. Anyway, the final 30 minutes were the best part of the movie.

@handznet

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. His demise was disappointing. Actually he was just shot by Helena no?

@Mahaloth

Жыл бұрын

@@handznet I thought his plane went down and crashed, but I'm not sure.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

He's non-fatally shot by Helena, but he's killed when the plane crashes nose first (his very burnt body is seen by the plane).

I know I'm going to be in a small boat on this one, but I actually liked this one less than Crystal Skull. That movie, for all its flaws, had several scenes that stood out to me and overall still felt like an Indy film through and through. This one, on the other hand, just felt bland to me for most of the runtime, and there were very few scenes that actually excited me. And most of all, it never fully felt like it had that adventurous spirit to it that Indiana Jones is all about. Anyway, that's how I felt.

I Wouldnt' call it better then crystal skull, they are both bad movies, but crystal skull had alot of heart to it and passion was clearly put into the production, dial of destiny on the hand just felt like soulless to me it felt like disney wanted to use the indiana jones license one time before harrison passes on which kinda makes this more cynical imo

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

They pretty much wanted to close it and bring in a new female lead, that was their plan.

I quite concur with the Crystal Skull. I liked it then and I watched it before Dial. It instantly strike me with how awesome the Spielbergs cinematography is. The way shots are planned. The lighting. this is something missing in new movie. I only have problem with Monkeys scene. Fridge is fun and totally fitting Indiana Jones style.

@HBarnill

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the editing. The latest one's biggest difference was the editing.

@r.a.r.1981

Жыл бұрын

Everyone hates the fridge, but it was actually one of my favorite things about the movie.

@HBarnill

Жыл бұрын

@@r.a.r.1981 Didn't like the fridge but it wasn't enough to ruin the movie for me. The second half was, where it was literally non-stop action without any kind of break to develop the characters or have some emotion, something Raiders and Crusade were masterful at doing.

Thank you for this! Well worth the wait for your insight.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hey just to let you know, iv been subscribed to you for years & recently wondered where you have been. I haven't been receiving any notifications. So I unsubsribed then resubscribed, I know all kinds of shady stuff has been happening to many channels on KZread. Anyways just a F.I.Y looking forward to resume watching your videos!!! Big Fan!!!

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Oh, thank you! That's annoying as a creator that my videos aren't getting pushed out to subscribers, but hope you keep on enjoying my work!

I was so let down by Crystal Skull and late sequels in general, I was not gonna see it after early reviews came in. But I tend to have a similar view on movies like you, so I think you have changed my mind and I'll give it a go.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

If you're not certain, you can give it a try whenever it pops up on Disney+.

100% agree, train section was great

I don't get the appeal of seeing heroes from our youth dragged back as feeble, miserable old losers. We really need to accept series ending. It's almost macabre seeing these old characters and franchise paraded around like corpses being puppeted.

Harrison Ford's peak really was during the 80s with that Indiana Jones trilogy. Harrison even after 1989 wasn't really as charismatic as when he portrayed Han and Indy. Indiana Jones is America's greatest cinematic hero. The Fugitive, Air Force One, he really wasn't the same charismatic figure like he was as Han and Indy. When Crystal Skull came out, he kinda still had it but it still wasn't quite there. Then watching Dial of Destiny, it's really watching Harrison trying to be Indy than Harrison being Indy. We can put the Phoebe character aside and Harrison no longer as "IT" as Indy. But what can we expect from a man in his 80s? His absolute peak was from 1977-1989 as Han and Indy, his two greatest characters in two beloved franchises created by George Lucas. The charisma was still there. He was still ages 35-47. When we watch The Force Awakens and Dial of Destiny, it's just watching an old Harrison Ford portray our beloved cinematic heroes one final time because he only wants to collect checks. It's not the Han Solo and Indiana Jones that we grew up loving as kids in the 80s and 90s with his funny lines and amazing charisma. Michael Jordan is my all-time favorite celebrity. Not just among athletes. But imagine watching him play basketball in his 60s? That's rough. I only want to remember him from the 80s and 90s. That's the same with Harrison. I only want to remember him when he was still in his 30s and 40s during the 1970s and 1980s. When Harrison Ford still had IT. Grace Randolph ranked her top 10 movies so far from the first half of 2023. Now I really stopped caring watching her any more. But I took the time to listen to her and kudos to her for ranking BlackBerry at 3rd and Air at 4th. She put them behind Dead Reckoning and Across The Spider-Verse. Air and BlackBerry will probably remain my two favorites of 2023 because I'm into Michael Jordan, his sneakers, and phones. They're both well done business/corporate movies. That's fascinating stuff talking about history and business. BlackBerry does divert with their real history more but it's still entertaining and a cautionary tale while Air is more inspirational. Tom Cruise did it again from what I'm hearing. Saving summer movies a second time in a row. Now Tom at age 60 still has "IT" that Harrison lost over 20 years ago. Tom is willing to make Mission movies into his 80s. And I'm all for it! Tom still showed he still has "IT" in Top Gun: Maverick. A 60-year-old Scientologist is still kicking ass and saving Hollywood summer blockbusters and movie theaters.

@lexkanyima2195

7 ай бұрын

What ?

Yeah, the film is not a good as Crusade or Raiders, and lacks the edge of Doom that makes is so beloved, but its still a fun film and a MUCH better finale for the character than Crystal Skull. B- of a film, maybe, but that final act was a damn hoot, and fully agreed on the random background guy along for the ride at the end, damn shame we didn't get a scene of him, like mid or post credits, trying to explain what happened to him :D.

@handznet

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but no. The finale in the Crystal Skull was flawless. The way it stated there won’t be any new indy was perfect. Here. The ending was too much sugarcoating. But overall it is a good movie about last (I hope ) Indys adventure.

Well, she has a funny way of showing her love for this surrogate father, by stealing an artifact from him, and getting several of his friends killed, for which she shows no remorse. I just could not stomach this Phoebe lady, not just as a character but the actress herself is endlessly smug, arrogant and just not likeable.

It's not better than Crystal skull. Not in any way, shape, or form.

I don’t know if I’ll watch this movie but I’ll come back to this eventually 😅

It’s never too late for a movie review man. Great review as always. I’m dying to hear your opinion on “Asteroid City” and “Past Lives” as well, if you’re able.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Past Lives won't reach here until September, so I likely won't cover it as a standalone video.

Love the titles

I’ve just watched it and I liked it. Phoebe Waller-bridge held the film together for me. Not as good as the original 3 though

@spenser9908

10 ай бұрын

Her character was fucking awful.

Indy was too old when they filmed crystal skull, and it was clear back then that the magic had gone, they fooled me once, but I wont be fooled again, this is an easy skip for me

@MilkPudding

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@motherplayer

Жыл бұрын

That's the easiest route to take with this film too in terms of not checking it out. Most will harp on other things like Phoebe or the name, but I too believe that it's simply a case of Ford being too old to be convincing in the role anymore for what would be required of him. Some would argue he was more spry than he should have been looking back in CS, but he was still pushing it then, forget now. And even if I were a bigger fan of this franchise, there are going to be at least 3 films from this month alone that will be worth a ticket price than this film.

There's an actual actor who can sub for young Indy Anthony Ingriber

@eamonndeane587

Жыл бұрын

Not only a close lookalike, but he can also do a terrific impression of Ford's voice.

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

Or Ehrenreich, or whatever the guy's name was, from Solo. Say what you will about the movie, he has the looks and mannerism down right.

No, its not Mutt>>>>> Fleabag Aliens>>>>> time travel

Interesting to hear so many differing opinions about where this new Indy stands compared to Crystal Skull. I watched all 4 of the previous movies not too long ago, and actually enjoyed KotCS quite a lot, so if Dial of Destiny is even as good as it, it sounds like it's worth a watch. Though it does feel weird whenever I hear the first 3 films described collectively as great films. A few standout action sequences aside, Temple of Doom is *so* bad, I'm convinced it just gets elevated by being sandwiched between 2 all time great movies. Give me aliens and nuked fridges over ToD's racist underpinnings any day.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

I'd be fully willing to admit it is partially nostalgia and partly that when it is thrilling, it genuinely is, but it is by far the least of the three. There's a lot of bad stuff in it, and it is so mean-spirited pretty much Spielberg and Lucas have distanced themselves from it as "product of our divorces".

@SwiftNimblefoot

Жыл бұрын

@@FilmBrain Isn't it true that Spielberg was mad that his movie lost at the Oscars to a Gandhi bio pick, and the whole movie was a giant "FU!" to India?

Better? Hell no!!!!

I preferred Crystal Skull. At least that gave Indy a proper happy ending that the series could end on. Dial of Destiny just gives all that the finger, and turns our beloved Indiana Jones into a depressed old man who's divorced, child-less and out of touch. The opening was great, the rest was fine, but none of it did anything for me. It was all very forgettable or just a lesser version of other things the series did. Mads Mikklesen's character was ok and his concept worked well, but he doesn't quite stand up to most of the other villains in the series (his death was also not quite as memorable either). Many of the rest of the cast I just think are fine, and many I can't even remember the names of. I'm not even sure how many of their names are mentioned in the film.

In no way is this movie better than Crystal Skull.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Funny how several people have posted this now without elaborating, almost like they're responding to the title and nothing else. And well-reasoned debates are welcome. I'm not asking to change your opinion or my own, because each to theirs, but just an observation.

Seeing now that time travel is an eatablished thing in this universe now, I really don't understand how the UFO can still be a complaint, hell i still think that aspect was pretty cool. Also ive never been on board the Shia Labeouf hate train just because of the bad Transformers sequals. So you could say im more bias towards positivity in that manner

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

I'm on the LaBeouf hate train because of those serious accusations of abuse.

@mrflipperinvader7922

Жыл бұрын

@FilmBrain oh Well I won't discuss that in youtube comments, lol

Better than Crystal Skull... no, just... just no

HARD PASS. I don’t want it to taint my memories of the trilogy the way ‘Skull did.

Boys jersey didn't exist at the time.

I still view Indiana Jones as a classic 80s trilogy; KofCK and tDoD are just glorified epilogue films because those two films are far away from the creative input of the original three movies.

Good review but can't agree. This series should have been left alone after Crusade. They didn't have anything left to say afterward.

are you sure about that?

Crystal skull is better then dial of destiny

It was messy, but had a fun time. Loved the chemistry between Ford and Waller-Bridge; I got into Fleabag recently and her charisma balanced out with Ford's in an effective way. Anyone who makes useless reactive KZreadrs go "THIS IS WOKE" for no fucking reason has my vote for confidence lol I do wish Karen Allen was in it more especially knowing what's happened between Marion and Indy in-between this and Crystal Skull.

Spielberg didn't have his heart in Crystal Skull? If you're not up to the task then don't take the damn job. It's not like Spielberg needed the money.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd rather someone do their best Spielberg impression, than Spielberg having a bad day (like Skull or Lost World).

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

@@FilmBrain Also, I'm pretty sure Lucas worked extensively with bits, at least, of the screenplay, over several years...?

Personally, I just find this movie rather pointless. There's just no reason to watch this. Not even to compare Dial of Destiny to Kingdom of The Crystal Skull (because it's like saying that Terminator: Dark Fate is better than Genysis, neither movie is good any way you slice it), but judging it from everything else that came out this year. John Wick 4 had a more satisfying sendoff to its male lead, Fast X had better chase scenes, Extraction 2 had better action scenes, hell, even Transformers: Rise of the Beasts had a more entertaining adventure than Dial of Destiny.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

I would definitely disagree on that last one, I found Rise of the Beasts very dull. (Not seen Fast X or Extraction 2, can't comment there.)

Dial of Destiny is as bad as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull imo. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade should have been the last Indi movie.

Just gash. That's all

How come u don’t do filmbrain anymore

Black lady could not possibly catch up to him at the subway station.

I cannot disagree more with your view on this movie. It's a poor instalment. It is not a fitting end. It is nowhere near the original trilogy. It has no heart. It is a shameful movie. It's not entertaining. I don't like your review, sorry.

Terrible movie with ridiculous contrivances, complete deconstruction of a venerated legacy character ( lad for the course for lucasfilm) just to serve as a launching point for a KK self insert fan fiction “strong female character” (also a Disney lucasfilm staple) who undermines and over performs our lead in what can be best described as a Mary Sue. Also, the plot makes no sense. Utter garbage.

One last adventure huh? Not if they CGI Ghost him like Harold Ramis