Indian Scout Bobber engine and DC power inexplicably shuts off - solved

My 2020 Indian Scout Bobber - bought brand new - had from inception a periodic issue where after it was washed or got wet, the engine and all electric power would shut off. The 15A Chassis Circuit breaker would trip and try to reset but bike would remain dead. I explain in detail what ended up being the problem and the relatively easy fix.
I am sure I am not the only Scout owner who has had this problem, there are plenty of forum posts where people have stated a similar issue.
See this forum thread for how to remove the battery box - its otherwise a PITA to do:
www.indianmotorcycles.net/thr...
I’ve notified Indian customer service about this issue today.
Hopefully this can help others with the same problem.
PS: sorry for my voice, I’m coming off a bad flu.
UPDATE: Bike is still running fine and I can confirm the issue is resolved since the fix.
The fix again was filling the exposed black plug with di-electric grease and capping it with the Dorman 5/8” coolant cap. I had found two other exposed plugs down by the voltage regulator which I also filled with the di-electric grease - just in case. But those were not the problem as when I had jiggled them previously the short persisted - it wasn’t until I had gotten the black plug jiggled around that the short cleared.
I have now SOAKED the bike 3 different times, as much or more than if I were to wash it or if it had been caught in a bad rainstorm. That included spraying all around and up under the seat, under and up into the center of the swing arm, all over the handlebar controls and switches etc. Each time just towel dried the exterior and put in the key - all electrics working, no short and the bike fired right up. Let it idle 15+ minutes each time -no issues. Previously, even 10% of the amount of water I sprayed could cause the short to happen.
I think there is a simple and relatively inexpensive way - without removing the battery and battery box - to at least inspect the area below the battery box and that black plug. I had bought a while ago on Amazon a wireless endoscope camera that connects to a smartphone or tablet and feeds the image to it. I’ll test tonight when I get home to see if it can be snaked down behind the battery box and/or from down below by the voltage regulator to see if it can “see” the plug. That won’t help in actually doing the fix, but if someone is having or has had the same issue they can look and see if the plug is sitting there exposed like mine was before doing all the work of removing the battery and battery box to fix it. The battery box removal is the part that’s again a kind of a PITA. Will do a short KZread video of that as well and come back and post here with a link.

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  • @mikeh4686
    @mikeh4686 Жыл бұрын

    Very nicely done video. I have the standard scout (2021) and bike did unexpectedly shut off once. I figured it was me accidentally hitting kill button. It has never done it since. I believe many (including dealers) will find his video invaluable when trying to diagnose these gremlins.

  • @thechunkyhen
    @thechunkyhen Жыл бұрын

    This happened to me once several years ago, the dealer said it was probably a loose battery terminal. It hasn't ever happened to me since but will definitely look into this if it happens again. Thanks for sharing!

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you remember if you had the clicking/resetting circuit breaker when the bike shut down and wouldn’t re-start? If so, it’s not likely it was just a loose terminal. I don’t think a loose terminal alone would cause a self-resetting fuse/breaker to trip like I describe, only a short should do that.

  • @nicopelle72
    @nicopelle729 ай бұрын

    You’re SUPER-PRO!!!!! 💪Compliments.😎

  • @zeeman8765
    @zeeman8765 Жыл бұрын

    I'm having the same issue....thank you for the insight

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    Let me/us know if after you diagnose and hopefully solve it if it appeared to be same problem as mine. Good luck and thanks

  • @stephencummins7589
    @stephencummins758910 ай бұрын

    You are brilliant man thank you.

  • @allentraylor5659
    @allentraylor56598 ай бұрын

    Verry sharp dude.

  • @Txcowboy80
    @Txcowboy809 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the post 💯

  • @raisingcane225
    @raisingcane225 Жыл бұрын

    At 2:27 where I explain reaching in to jostle what wires I could feel, and the short instantly clearing, that was reaching in and up from UNDERNEATH up by where the voltage regulator and ABS module and front center portion of the swing arm are, it was NOT fiddling with the wires up top by the fuse block and battery. When I jostled the wires, it moved the exposed black 2-pronged plug under the battery box slightly, causing the water droplet in it to fall out and thus cleared the short. UPDATE: The problem remains solved. I have soaked it another 3 times and no issues. My nephew has a 21 Scout with ABS (regular Scout, not the Bobber) and this past weekend we pulled the battery and battery box - less of a PITA now that I figured out how to separate it from the coolant reservoir - and his did NOT have the exposed plug at all anywhere that we could see in that area. He had not had an issue either with the bike shutting off like this. Hopefully it is a rare and isolated situation. If anyone else has this problem and it turns out to be the same issue, please comment here so we know. Thanks and good luck.

  • @sonnymolina8748
    @sonnymolina87483 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing this video

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    3 ай бұрын

    Hope it helped. Were you having the same or a similar issue?

  • @sonnymolina8748

    @sonnymolina8748

    3 ай бұрын

    @@raisingcane225 No I’m not having that issue it’s good information for all of us that have a Scout Bobber thank you so much for sharing your video

  • @obiajulumaha412
    @obiajulumaha4122 күн бұрын

    While watching this video, i realized that my 2021 scout bobber was intermittently shutting off during extremely humid days. I hope Im not just letting my imagination run away with me. But this is annoying when Im enjoying a beautiful ride and out of the blue... and while in slow traffic.

  • @poppysadventures2020
    @poppysadventures20209 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing

  • @1969ajq
    @1969ajq Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the info

  • @Desordius
    @Desordius Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for share

  • @joshuared5173
    @joshuared5173 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the heads up man. I'm looking forward to getting my own SCOUT BOBBER soon. Please let us know if/when INDIAN contacts you and what happens after that.

  • @lt9648
    @lt9648 Жыл бұрын

    Grazie!

  • @joshuafreier1749
    @joshuafreier1749 Жыл бұрын

    Just curious where did you get the saddle bags? They look great. I've been looking for a set for my scout

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    They are from an Italian company called ENDS CUIO. The specific model is “Tomahawk”. I got it in the two tone dark color and got the extra option of the Quick Buckles (highly recommend the Quick Buckles). They are kind of small but fit the Bobber very well and are SUPER high quality, although they are expensive. I ordered from them last week a square yard of thinner leather - colored as best they could based on pictures of the saddlebags - so I can have a local upholstery shop redo my seat to better match the color of the bags. If you get these bags and think you might later try and re-cover your seat to match the bags, it’s best to order the extra leather colored at the same time they make the bags - it will be an exact match that way.

  • @1969ajq

    @1969ajq

    Жыл бұрын

    @@raisingcane225 best bag for money, excellent quality (Italian)

  • @Drengr1901

    @Drengr1901

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, Ends Cuoio is definitely worth the money and wait. I use the detachable mounts.

  • @stevehunt9703
    @stevehunt970311 ай бұрын

    We had the same problem and in our case two issues caused the problem. The bar switches are open contact and can get water or humidity in them causing no starting and on the other bar inability to toggle the display. Second issue humidity in the speedometer causing complete engine computer meltdow with strange lighting faults and no start. Funny how Hondas from the seventies had no problems. Placement of connectors behind or in front of wheels or any weather exposed location is stupid. Not good enough.

  • @TeamTaur
    @TeamTaur Жыл бұрын

    I wanna hear that dual air horn... I have only 1 on my octane.. would love to hear that bad ass set up... I may have to upgrade lol.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    The horn sounds exactly like my 2018 F-250 6.7 diesel. This is the horn, I painted the bracket black and turned the horns to face the way they are in the video. FIAMM 7201622 OEM Dual Horn Assembly, GM/Chrysler/Ford a.co/d/9An8u3u

  • @MastaKeahi
    @MastaKeahi11 ай бұрын

    Mine is driving me nuts I was going down the highway and lost the front cylinder now I get error code 651 5 for the front injector and I’m getting code 520547 5 and 520548 5. These two are not in the service manual and I use my multimeter and can’t find a short. If I unplug the front injector and plug it back in it fixes itself for about a day. I’ve had this bike for a month and I’m not looking forward to the service bill.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    11 ай бұрын

    Doesn’t sound like the cause of your issue is the same as mine. Good luck, hope you can solve it and its not a major issue

  • @714TRAVLES
    @714TRAVLES Жыл бұрын

    Hello, I just rode my 2020 indian scout bobber sixty to the gas station. Shut it off and went inside. When I came back out and went to start it, it is doing exactly what your describing. Ture the key and headlight flickers a couple of time then nothing. Gauge won't illuminate at all and the there's just a clicking sound every couple of seconds. I'm hoping what you found to be the issue is mine as well. Going to pull it apart tomorrow after work.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck and please reply back here if it turns out to be the same issue.

  • @714TRAVLES

    @714TRAVLES

    Жыл бұрын

    Tonight I'm going to try what you did by removing the negative battery cable from the chassie along with the other ground wires clamped them together with plyersi and try the key and see if it lights up everything again. If it does then I need to look at that plug you're talking about a little more closely and really blow it out and clean it.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    @@714TRAVLES If you are going to remove the battery and battery box to try and access where the plug that I had exposed is, first MAKE SURE to look at the forum thread I linked to in the video description of how to remove the battery box. Without knowing how to do it it is a royal pain in the ass and you’ll never get it out. My nephew has a 21 Scout with ABS. Over the weekend we pulled his battery and the box - not because he had the problem but to look and see he had the same exposed plug I did. His bike did NOT have it, so it is possible to be an uncommon problem. There are some other potential issues that can cause a short and circuit breakers to trip. You may also want to read this thread where I first had this problem before it was resolved. Alot of people posted suggestions as to what might be the cause: www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/help-20-bobber-died-inst-gauge-dead-w-clicking-chassis-fuse-battery-ok.329503/ Good luck and if you solve it please reply back with info on what it turned out to be.

  • @714TRAVLES

    @714TRAVLES

    Жыл бұрын

    @@raisingcane225 Last night I took the battery and battery box out. I blew out the plug a little and hooked the battery up I tried to start it again but the minute I turned the key on it did the same thing. Maybe I didn't blow it out enough. We haven't had the best dry warm weather here in Missouri yet. I'm almost certain you and I have the same issue. Everything you went through is going on with mine.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    So you had the same exposed plug as mine did? Aside from the plug I pointed out in the video, there were two more plugs dangling down just above the rear swing arm that were also exposed and not capped. I also filled those two with the same silicone die-electric grease just in case. But I know it was the plug below the battery box that had the water in/on it that caused my issue. I had previously jiggled the other two plugs and the problem had persisted, until I actually was able to jiggle the plug under the battery box and I felt water drip out. Hope you can resolve this!

  • @zx7rkawa99
    @zx7rkawa99Ай бұрын

    Greetings, what is this module that is in the battery box for?

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Ай бұрын

    Hello, can you give me a time stamp for where the module you are talking about is? There are several things in there, amongst them the main fuse junction block

  • @zx7rkawa99

    @zx7rkawa99

    Ай бұрын

    @@raisingcane225 I mean the module that is stuck to the bottom of the battery's box, at 3:09. An error showed up on my bike (520200-14) and my mechanic said it's that module that causes it.

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Ай бұрын

    @@zx7rkawa99 I believe it is a module that determines if the bike has tipped over and if so, shuts off power to the bike - it’s a safety device I. The even the bike has fallen over, for example in a crash. If you look up OEM Indian parts for a 2020 Scout Bobber it is in the subsection of “ELECTRICAL, COMPONENTS, ALL OPTIONS” and it is referenced as part 9 in the illustration; part number 4017165 “MODULE, LOAD/TIP OVER”. Listed at $204.99. The website I looked it up at is: www.indianpartsnation.com

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Ай бұрын

    @@zx7rkawa99 www.indianpartsnation.com/oemparts/a/ind/62bc71104375bb533de982c7/electrical-components-all-options It’s reference part number 9

  • @zx7rkawa99

    @zx7rkawa99

    Ай бұрын

    @@raisingcane225 i see, thank you a lot!

  • @Visibly4D
    @Visibly4D7 ай бұрын

    Damn I had the same idea to make the chieftain head a skull

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    7 ай бұрын

    That is a decal from Brave Wolf Customs. It’s been over a year and it’s still perfect.

  • @allthekidsareright
    @allthekidsareright Жыл бұрын

    Is your bike abs?

  • @raisingcane225

    @raisingcane225

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the late reply., missed the message previously. Yes, it is ABS

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