Indian Defence Strategy - Forces, Potential and Procurement Disasters

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When debates arise on what the worlds strongest militaries are, attention tends to focus on the United States, PRC, and the Russian Federation. Less often mentioned is India...and I think that's a massive oversight.
With a rapidly growing economy, young demography, and a developing military industry, India's military evolution and strategy are likely to become ever more significant regional and global factors in the coming years.
So today, let's talk about it
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Caveats & Comments:
All normal caveats and comments apply.
At one point I refer to the Defence Acquisition Procedure 2016 - as per the slide, it was actually the Defence Procurement Procedure at the time. My reading was focused on the 2020 document, not 2016 as mentioned.
In particular - I would like to note as always that this material has been created for entertainment purposes and should not be relied upon to inform financial or other similar decisions.
Relevant Reading (to be expanded)
Platform counts are generally MB2022 figures for sake of consistency with other episodes
TIV figures are per SIPRI
Defence Acquisition Procedure - 2020
www.ddpmod.gov.in/sites/defau...
Defence Procurement Procedure - 2016 highlights
www.scribd.com/document/31250...
Defence Procurement Procedure - 2013
cgda.nic.in/pdf/DPP2013.pdf
Featured Comptroller and Auditor General Report (35 or 2014)
cag.gov.in/webroot/uploads/do...
loksabhadocs.nic.in/Refinput/...
Defence Procurement Manual 2016 (DRDO)
www.drdo.gov.in/sites/default...
Reporting on India China clashes
www.wsj.com/articles/spiked-c...
Reporting and Service Records
www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Da...
www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Da...
www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Da...
economictimes.indiatimes.com/...
Reporting on QR bloat
thewire.in/security/indian-mi...
US Force Demographics -2021
www.defenseculture.mil/Portal...
Dewey, McGerty, & Solanki (IISS) - Personnel vs. capital: the Indian defence budget
www.iiss.org/en/online-analys...
Reporting on Agnipath
www.ndtv.com/india-news/agnip...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...
pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail....
Reporting on Russian arms deliveries to India
www.reuters.com/world/india/r...
Reporting on MiG-21
www.indiatoday.in/india/story...
thewire.in/security/mig-21-sq...
www.indiatoday.in/india/story...
www.independent.co.uk/asia/in...
Reporting on QRs
thewire.in/security/indian-mi...
INSAS retiring
economictimes.indiatimes.com/...
Featured WB article on Indian growth
www.worldbank.org/en/news/pre...
Reporting on Indian defence budget
www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
F404 order
www.flightglobal.com/defence/...
For comparison: F-16 mishap and pilot loss statistics
www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/...
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Indian Defence Strategy
00:01:20 - What Am I Talking About?
00:04:14 - History
00:07:59 - Strategic Situation
00:21:22 - Indian Armed Forces
00:27:29 - The Nuclear Program
00:36:21 - Strengths & Challenges
00:46:37 - Defence Industry & Procurement
00:50:14 - Why Procurement Goes Wrong?
01:10:15 - Conclusion
01:11:03 - Channel Update

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  • @PerunAU
    @PerunAU5 ай бұрын

    Sponsored by Private Internet Access, Use the following link to access their promotional offer: www.piavpn.com/Perun No video I've ever done has taken as long to put together as this one - so there's probably no better choice for a near end of year release. This video was a hard one to produce - firstly because of the scale of the subject (ideally I'd actually be able to do 3 videos on India - this one, one on modernisation and the future (because Indian industry and the armed forces are likely to look a lot different in 15 years than they are now) and something like a procurement best of/deep dive into the best and worst programs and systems to come out of India). It was also hard because simple messages are easy, and India isn't simple. What I have tried to do is capture the scale and strength of the Indian military, the potential of its industry and economy and its increasing ambition - as well as some of the factors that have held it back, particularly when it comes to what I know best, which is budgeting and procurement. Given time limits - some topics have been simplified or omitted (including some of India's border disputes) but please don't take those omissions as a statement that those factors are irrelevant. Not all sources fit in the source list so I'll put together a document holding additional resources and add that as a link in the next 24 hours or so (please keep an eye out and read the description section). I hope you all enjoy, and I'll see you again next week.

  • @Alexthe360Great

    @Alexthe360Great

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm just glad to get this Christmas gift. Also, early Merry Christmas to you, Perun. And thanks for all that you do.

  • @martinhubinette2254

    @martinhubinette2254

    5 ай бұрын

    Perun: "I'd like to enjoy more of your traditional pasta dishes" Swedes: *Spagetti och Meatballs with ketchup*

  • @AM.official

    @AM.official

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh my god Mom it PowerPoint SATURDAY With Peru as our leader we shall make PP great again. WooHoo

  • @reinostrea8558

    @reinostrea8558

    5 ай бұрын

    now do nation between india and china

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    5 ай бұрын

    Too bad India doesn't have a Time-travel machine If only they could go back to the Bronze Age to fix their poverty

  • @ArteUltra91
    @ArteUltra915 ай бұрын

    „If there are two things German industry can do well, it's expensive and submarines.“ You can't imagine how much patriotism this sentence let's me feel.

  • @alexisjuillard4816

    @alexisjuillard4816

    5 ай бұрын

    Are you gonna have a explosif orgasm if say the world 'diesel engine' There you got your good german time now i'm here to remind you the country you tried to invade (and to be fair did a good job the 2nd time) twice between you and the Atlantic, well we have more or less the same defense budget. And i'll let peruns 2 videos on germany and france drive the point home that cash is not an accurate reflector of a nations capability... And if i ever feel insecure during this dick measuring contest i'll just play my get out of jail free card and tell you i'm also a native (wrong word lol, as in born and raised in ny not the other native) american and that army i believe has never answered a question starting with "do you want this feature..." by anything other then yes For fuck sake they're even trying to make their new 300+m 100k ton aircraft carriers stealthy. Not real steath but that still a massive flex as far as i m concerned

  • @u2beuser714

    @u2beuser714

    5 ай бұрын

    "We defeated the wrong enemy" -George S. Patton

  • @OperationDarkside

    @OperationDarkside

    5 ай бұрын

    In recent years they added houses to the expensive list.

  • @dudermcdudeface3674

    @dudermcdudeface3674

    5 ай бұрын

    @@u2beuser714 Don't do that. The old fool just wanted to keep fighting.

  • @linda1lee2

    @linda1lee2

    5 ай бұрын

    @@dudermcdudeface3674Though in retrospect, defeating the USSR and Communism then would've saved money and lives and stopped some future wars such as bloody Korea.

  • @colmcorbec7031
    @colmcorbec70315 ай бұрын

    Wake up samurai! It's powerpoint Saturday!

  • @krissteel4074

    @krissteel4074

    5 ай бұрын

    I had to check that I didn't miss Saturday and somehow ended up on Sunday night 📈

  • @serbsi2922

    @serbsi2922

    5 ай бұрын

    Who sleeps? Sanity is boring

  • @LARPing_Services_LLC

    @LARPing_Services_LLC

    5 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah brother

  • @errorcrj110

    @errorcrj110

    5 ай бұрын

    Wake the f*** up, Samurai! We've got a presentation to attend...

  • @poplitealfossas1768

    @poplitealfossas1768

    5 ай бұрын

    SING THIS SONG, I'M CHIPPIN IN

  • @UppiliSridharan
    @UppiliSridharan5 ай бұрын

    As an aerospace engineer of Indian origin who works abroad but keenly follows the happenings in Indian defense industry, i can say that this commentary is superb and accurately and unbiasedly captures the current state of Indian defense industry and procurement. Simply put, we are our own worst enemies! Thank you Perun for shining a light on this. I wish the policy makers, defense leaders and bureaucrats see this video and have time to reflect on it.

  • @mnoot7209

    @mnoot7209

    5 ай бұрын

    Right on braddah! I'm very happy to read your affirmation that our Mr. Perun has done his due diligence and unbiased reportage nonpareil once again. Batting 1000! Merry Christmas Perun!

  • @whispermason8052

    @whispermason8052

    5 ай бұрын

    It actually permeates through your private businesses as well. It almost seems as though there is an emphasis on being over the top professional with zero chance of profit in any contract negotiation. It puts indis's requests at the bottom of the to does when we get them.

  • @lor_girl

    @lor_girl

    5 ай бұрын

    @@whispermason8052 follow me💖🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @ursodermatt8809

    @ursodermatt8809

    5 ай бұрын

    not just only the indian defence industry, the whole blooming shemozzle

  • @lor_girl

    @lor_girl

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ursodermatt8809 follow me🙏💖

  • @robertjarman3703
    @robertjarman37035 ай бұрын

    In 1948, the two dominions went to war with the exact same head of state on both sides. Your majesty, our forces have defeated the forces of that most avaricious and dangerous of forces, your majesty's other armed forces.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Also, both armies were initially led by British Chiefs of Staff lmao

  • @minhtrungle9117

    @minhtrungle9117

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@SounakDas-zb3xc Brits got tired of fighting wars with other people, they start fighting a war between themselves for laughs.

  • @TheMsdos25

    @TheMsdos25

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@minhtrungle9117lol sounds like something the greenskins would do. Guess that explains their cockney accents.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    @robertjarman3703 Man, that line sounds straight out of Blackadder goes forth... Fuck it, we need a Blackadder 1948 India edition

  • @ajback2917

    @ajback2917

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@minhtrungle9117 This is what happens when the bloody French want a year off.

  • @sdesigan85
    @sdesigan855 ай бұрын

    So many gems in this but this sticks out 28:08 "Remember, this is a time when the Soviet Union and the United States were basically fighting a sustained thermonuclear war against Kazakhstan and Nevada respectively". Perun, you should be writing for the screen, Sir.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Not to mention the Bikini atolls

  • @matthewg2530

    @matthewg2530

    5 ай бұрын

    And the arctic, in the case of Russia and Novaya Zemlya. Not to forget the French testing in Mururoa in the south Pacific either . .

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    @@matthewg2530 or French Algeria

  • @BNRmatt

    @BNRmatt

    5 ай бұрын

    He is, it's just not a terribly big screen...

  • @Navigator2166

    @Navigator2166

    5 ай бұрын

    I listen not only for his vast research and knowledge but for Perun's most wicked zingers! One must listen closely, or his deadpan delivery will slip right past. So many times:?did he just say… rewind, replay… why yes, yes he did! Sharp as a tack and deadly satirical wit. Love this young man... AZ 👵🏻🌵🇺🇸

  • @casbot71
    @casbot715 ай бұрын

    Ukrainian and Indian logistics and maintenance having a drink together. _"We have more types and countries of origin."_ "We have to do _fighter jets_ from different power blocs."

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    India - Hey, hey, hey... Ukraine, you don't have to maintain Flankers, Mig 29s, Mirage 2000s, Rafales, Tejases, Mig 21s, AND SEPECAT Jaguars at the same time😂 (PS - Also until recently, Mig 27s) Edit : Also until 2009, Mig 23s. Also three different attack helos (Apaches, Hinds and HAL Prachands - plus the HAL Rudra, a gunship variant of the Dhruv utility helo)

  • @Thaidory

    @Thaidory

    5 ай бұрын

    Ukrainian airforce chaos is in the future. For now land based equipment is a mess and amount of available manpower to deal with this mess is way lower than in India.

  • @benoithudson7235

    @benoithudson7235

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Thaidory : Ukrainian airforce is going to be fine. They aren't going to be getting supplies from Russia, and neither are any of their allies, so the old Soviet fleet is going to be retired as soon as they can.

  • @Thaidory

    @Thaidory

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benoithudson7235 Ukrainian airforce right now has suffered alot of attrition and the future of adopting F-16 heavily depends on unreliable political will of the West.

  • @MrTaxiRob

    @MrTaxiRob

    5 ай бұрын

    the future of domestic policy is uncertain as well @@Thaidory. If they lose the war, it could destabilize the pro-Eurpoean government trend, and I think Putin is kind of banking on that.

  • @hsjawanda
    @hsjawanda5 ай бұрын

    As the civilian son (who has a good amount of interest in military/geopolitical matters) of a retired Indian Army officer who fought in the 1965 and 1971 wars, I found this video very balanced and well-researched.

  • @chungusbooper

    @chungusbooper

    5 ай бұрын

    What did your immediate ancestor think of the Centurions?

  • @hsjawanda

    @hsjawanda

    5 ай бұрын

    @@chungusbooper What did you mean by "Centurions"?

  • @NightstormSEVEN

    @NightstormSEVEN

    5 ай бұрын

    tanks @@hsjawanda

  • @IndianArma

    @IndianArma

    5 ай бұрын

    It was alright. Held its own agaisnt the patton in 65 and 71. Not decisively better. My father was an armoured corps officer with the indian army. ​@chungusbooper

  • @admiralmackvods3766
    @admiralmackvods37665 ай бұрын

    7 months ago Perun said in the Japan video we would get a video on India. 100% Worth The Wait

  • @akashdevani1960

    @akashdevani1960

    5 ай бұрын

    but i would have loved if this was a three parter.

  • @nikolaideianov5092

    @nikolaideianov5092

    5 ай бұрын

    Wait that was 7 months ago ??

  • @f8tal_156
    @f8tal_1565 ай бұрын

    Damn, thank you so much for this video Perun. My Dad is retired now but he used to work for a Indian government department that worked with the military and according to him until a decade ago all government departments were basically adult day cares where nothing got done. This one time he got transferred to a different state because he refused to sign off on a govt contract to a shady private company, he only found out years later that his bosses were involved with that company when the new government ordered an inquiry into this situation and found his bosses guilty. Hope things only get better and better for our country

  • @datboib3432

    @datboib3432

    5 ай бұрын

    sounds like your dad was involved in some shady business

  • @balinthehater8205

    @balinthehater8205

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@datboib3432being involved and being guilty are different things

  • @dakaodo

    @dakaodo

    5 ай бұрын

    @@datboib3432 Sounds like you're a troll with reading comprehension issues. To reiterate OP's operative word: "REFUSED"

  • @mnoot7209

    @mnoot7209

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@datboib3432 What you say!?🤨 Sounds like his Dad was a great man of upstanding character to me! I salute him 🫡

  • @triadwarfare

    @triadwarfare

    5 ай бұрын

    Your dad dodged a bullet there.

  • @Squeaky_Ben
    @Squeaky_Ben5 ай бұрын

    Bold assumption of you that I use the internet. I get your videos delivered to me by a dozen pigeons carrying a VHS tape.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    5 ай бұрын

    I admire the novel logistics solution

  • @surajbiradar9827

    @surajbiradar9827

    5 ай бұрын

    Most secure communication method in the modern electronic warfare environment

  • @egroeggerg

    @egroeggerg

    5 ай бұрын

    RFC 1149: IP over Avian Carriers, strikes again

  • @AnimeSunglasses

    @AnimeSunglasses

    5 ай бұрын

    What, with a tree bark sling held under the dorsal guiding feathers?

  • @seneca983

    @seneca983

    2 ай бұрын

    What's your procedure for getting your comments under KZread videos? Do those same pigeons carry papers with the comments on them for someone else to type them?

  • @matthewmatthew638
    @matthewmatthew6385 ай бұрын

    A high quality hour-long presentation on defense strategy ranks way up there as a Christmas gift!

  • @Balsiefen
    @Balsiefen5 ай бұрын

    32:50 Ah yes, clearly the 5500km range is precisely calibrated to maximise range without provoking the terrifying wrath of Emutopia.

  • @ArupRatanMitra

    @ArupRatanMitra

    5 ай бұрын

    Agni 5 will almost certainly do 8000kms judging by the size and Agni 6 currently under development will do 10000 but they'll understate the range for obvious reasons

  • @fraserwilson249

    @fraserwilson249

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ArupRatanMitra Well at least Kiwiland should be safe.

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ArupRatanMitra They'll simply keep testing it in a lofted trajectory to understate the range. And they're readying an HGV to mount on it, so the range becomes even more uncertain after that.

  • @heresomewhere7600

    @heresomewhere7600

    4 ай бұрын

    @@fraserwilson249for further than 8000 km we have isro rockets ;)

  • @rodgerhempfing2921

    @rodgerhempfing2921

    3 ай бұрын

    Emutopia is little India, so no problem there.

  • @CrayogenicDeath
    @CrayogenicDeath5 ай бұрын

    As an Indian, I genuinely want to thank you for the in depth and deeply researched video. This was an excellent watch and provided a completely neutral, unbiased and an almost clinical view of Indian defense and strategy. Bravo, sir. Bravo!

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin76345 ай бұрын

    T-72s in Russia's war: "Hey, they're doing okay!" T-72s in an Indian war: "Oh dear, they're scraping the bottom of their barrel!" ....Good for you, India

  • @Hebdomad7

    @Hebdomad7

    5 ай бұрын

    It's because we expect so much better of India... Because Russia is... Well if you've studied Russian history... It's Russia...

  • @Markle2k

    @Markle2k

    5 ай бұрын

    Russia: I wonder if that T-34 on that plinth might be useful?

  • @kameronjones7139

    @kameronjones7139

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Hebdomad7 yeah honestly if it's wasn't for such terrible Indian procurement process the Russian arms industry would be collapsed

  • @u2beuser714

    @u2beuser714

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@kameronjones7139 Collapsed is a stretch. Russia, until the war in ukraine had many customers egypt, algeria armenia and all the ex-ussr states would have purchased from russia and i didnt scratch the surface yet

  • @kameronjones7139

    @kameronjones7139

    5 ай бұрын

    @u2beuser714 none of which buy the quantity of what india does. Alot of the ex ussr states are moving away from Russia and Russian equipment reputation is going down pretty bad recently. They are also struggling to get partners on newer weapons programs as is meaning they can't fund newer things. We are already seeing them slip badly in arms sales losing india would be a death blow

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun7715 ай бұрын

    The thing is, as far as I know (from a channel called InsideRussia), India makes Russia sell them oil for Rupees, which Russia basically can only spend on Indian goods and services. Which in turn once again benefits the Indian economy while limiting Russian spending opportunities.

  • @jloiben12

    @jloiben12

    5 ай бұрын

    Love to see it

  • @kth6736

    @kth6736

    5 ай бұрын

    India is will to pay in dollars but Russia has no ability to process dollars. Russians want yuans and India wont use yuans. So now Indian dockyards are getting contracts to build cargo ships for Russia using that money. Its like barter but beneficial for both.

  • @sage5296

    @sage5296

    5 ай бұрын

    I believe china is doing the same thing especially now with the ukraine conflict since russia has to take what it can get

  • @axllii

    @axllii

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@sage5296according to Konstantin from Inside Russia, China is making Russia pay for construction of the gas pipe Power of Siberia. To add insult to injury, China is also demanding large discounts for all gas delivered. As Konstantin also said "Russian, bow for your new masters"

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    5 ай бұрын

    Russia has actually been getting pissed at India for buying discounted Russian crude and then reselling it as diesel to Russia's former diesel customers.

  • @nuggs4snuggs516
    @nuggs4snuggs5165 ай бұрын

    I'd love to eventually see a video on Vietnamese defense startegy and procurement. Their bizzare mix of leftover American, supplied Soviet, and newer Israeli and domestic equipment is incredibly interesting, as is their ability to continue to utilize, revitalize, and operate very old weapons systems. M113 ACAVs mounting DShKs and PKMs, locally proudced M16 and CAR-15 variants, a local upgrade to the old M79 as the standard grenade launcher, a modernized AKM uisng an AK-74 muzzle break, plastic furniture and folding stock, and mounting M203s for ammo compatibility with the previously mentioned M79s, and even a new service rifle which is a locally produced Galil ACE derviative is the kind of weird stuff that gets a gear nerd like me excited, and matching all of this with their attempts at maintaining neutrality amongst growing US-Chinese competition in their neighbourhood is very, very interesting to me.

  • @user-hc7qk2ic3u

    @user-hc7qk2ic3u

    5 ай бұрын

    S hole The usa super cowards Got kicked out Vietnam by patriotic Vietnamese using water pistols while riding bicycles Usa's weapons???? Sell those junks to Fred Flintstone of washingrock

  • @quoccuongtran724

    @quoccuongtran724

    5 ай бұрын

    as a VNmese i am looking forward to it too, but simply put just VN alone might not make enough valuable content for a 1 hour long MS Powerpoint presentation i am guessing Perun could consider including VN in a compiled presentation about emerging defense industries, or about the defense industries of South East Asian countries (VN was included in a previous video about Russian arms export)

  • @dx-ek4vr

    @dx-ek4vr

    5 ай бұрын

    To make it even weirder, there's also news saying that Vietnam is mulling purchasing F-16s from the US. Assuming the deal goes through, I wonder if any Vietnam veterans on both sides would ever thought they'd see the day that the US would sell weapons to a communist nation (even if it's semi-self described)

  • @ghwrudi
    @ghwrudi5 ай бұрын

    I am an academic researcher by profession: this (and most other) videos by Perun is absolutely premier class, both in terms of research and presentation. If you have an interest in this stuff and aren't subscribed, you're making a mistake and losing out. Fantastic episode.

  • @AndrewBlucher

    @AndrewBlucher

    5 ай бұрын

    Preaching to the converted?

  • @EAFSQ9

    @EAFSQ9

    5 ай бұрын

    Perun's videos are probably case studies being used by government departments to advise ministers

  • @hungrymusicwolf

    @hungrymusicwolf

    5 ай бұрын

    @@EAFSQ9If they aren't they should be.

  • @abhilashyadav2274

    @abhilashyadav2274

    5 ай бұрын

    @@EAFSQ9 I can assure you that they get their due recognition ( for the purpose of general perception of things on a global level in a neutral way as he provides a balanced observation)

  • @aarav1648

    @aarav1648

    5 ай бұрын

    @@EAFSQ9 No, they are not. Most of these info is available on wikipedia(not reliable🙃). The CAG report screenshot was surfacing on twitter 10 days back...

  • @FinestYew
    @FinestYew5 ай бұрын

    I've never seen a non-Indian produce a video this accurate when it comes to Indian Defence. Bonus points for not making political jibes like many other creators. Well done good Sir.

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    5 ай бұрын

    You have to be careful not to offend Hindu nationalists. They are thin-skinned.

  • @blargvlarg1390

    @blargvlarg1390

    5 ай бұрын

    Honest question; what are the political jibes in this case?

  • @Jackiee_Chann

    @Jackiee_Chann

    5 ай бұрын

    @@blargvlarg1390destruction of democratic principles by current government

  • @JustBill82

    @JustBill82

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@blargvlarg1390 any joke about dravidians on horses is essentially throwing a grenade behind you....

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    5 ай бұрын

    @@badluck5647dude, the OP is one. He's actually a solid security analyst. Most of the time the West just gets things wrong.

  • @snowfox-xc1qq
    @snowfox-xc1qq5 ай бұрын

    Never expected to be really into long form military analysis content but here we are, from "All Bling, No Basics" to Space Warfare & India it's been a genuinely lovely show to watch, it'll be a sad day when Perun stops uploading but until then, thank you mate. (Love from Tasmania)

  • @snowfox-xc1qq

    @snowfox-xc1qq

    5 ай бұрын

    And Merry Christmas!

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Same man, same.

  • @seanthompson9163

    @seanthompson9163

    5 ай бұрын

    I expect it to be both happy and sad that day, since it will be a day where defense procurement and logistics will no longer be a pressing concern (aka, peace breaks out worldwide). That’s when I’ll have to get my Perun fix with his gaming channel. Looking forward to it, though I believe it to be far in the future, if ever.

  • @woodreauxwoodreaux6298
    @woodreauxwoodreaux62985 ай бұрын

    No one in the history of humanity has ever described military procurement in such engaging, entertaining and informative terms. Perun, this was a tour de force. I salute you.

  • @ewelina379

    @ewelina379

    5 ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more with you! Not only is this incredibly well researched and unbiased, but the delivery is unparalleled.

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun7715 ай бұрын

    I've heard dealing with Indian bureaucracy being compared to trying to nail a pudding to the wall.

  • @kth6736

    @kth6736

    5 ай бұрын

    Its more like trying to nail a pudding to your forehead.

  • @badluck5647

    @badluck5647

    5 ай бұрын

    Bureaucracy, corruption, and protectionism are the key reasons why India's economy never grew like China's.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Hitchhiker's Guide to the Indian Bureaucracy would be a great book topic.

  • @bramha9680

    @bramha9680

    5 ай бұрын

    All thanks to 70 years of caste based affirmative action

  • @kth6736

    @kth6736

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bramha9680 affirmative action changed nothing in bureaucracy. The whole bureaucracy was setup to rule the masses for bureaucrats benefit just like the british raj. They were all brown englishmen regardless of affirmative action...

  • @CremeCaramel77
    @CremeCaramel775 ай бұрын

    I’m surprised the fifth horseman of “corruption” wasn’t mentioned. The different requirements for Arjun and T-90 in particular smack of money changing hands to ensure a particular result. Great content btw! Love every minute of it

  • @rooneytutoring

    @rooneytutoring

    5 ай бұрын

    Because at a certain threshold it becomes very hard to distinguish the incompetence from the corruption. Canada is more incompetent than corrupt so it is easy to see the incompetence clearly. In Russia while the incompetence in some areas is high, it still pales to the monolith that is Russian corruption. But India just has that special balance that of really high incompetence levels blended seamlessly with high corruption. It becomes hard to tell what exactly is even going on.

  • @anonymouslyopinionated656

    @anonymouslyopinionated656

    5 ай бұрын

    yes. foreign suppliers can give kickbacks that your local government owned supplier cannot. the army is the most corrupt of the 3 wings, as can be expected. it's also why big ticket capital expenditures seemingly out of sync with the challenges of the last few decades keep eating into budgets... but sights and plates for the lowly infantryman is never a question.

  • @IndianArma

    @IndianArma

    5 ай бұрын

    The arjun is shit. Not capability wise. But because of quality control. That's the only reason why the indian army doesn't want it. That and the fact it doesn't traverse any of the bridges in forward areas because they are not related above 37 to 38 tones, the arjun is about 42 or more, depending on its armour profile. The two regiments that use it, usually keep the gunner out the turret because there are serious issues with the grooves of the rifled guns that lead to shrapnel flying into the turret with fatal consequences on occasion. Everyone who knows nothing on the issue love speculating about why the IA favors the T90 and upgraded T72s over the arjun.

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    5 ай бұрын

    @@IndianArma Nobody stopped the Army from following into the Navy's footsteps and actually creating their own design bureau (yeah they finally did it but how long did it take and what have they actually built in that bureau except for ASMI SMG) and sending their retired officers into industry to oversee production of Army gear. Problem with the Army is that they don't take ownership of the designs they demand. And problems within the DRDO is that some of their labs have poor, non-serious leadership. As for the production quality issues of Arjun, well, we should let it go because they killed the department responsible for that (OFB). Now let us see how the revamped Indian MIC deals with the newer Armoured vehicle projects like Zorawar, FRCV and FICV. And don't get me started on the turf wars within the Army itself that have delayed or scuttled absolutely vital programs like the CIDSS, ASTROIDS, BSS, etc. Luckily IACCS Shakti and AADCR Akashteer systems escaped that fate. And then there is the lack of seriousness when it comes to equipping the largest arm of the Army: the humble Infantry. There is a lot of change needed in MoD as well. That L1 system is F**ing our preparedness. As are the bean counters of the Finance Ministry. Penny wise pound fo0lish.

  • @Shubham_Bahirat

    @Shubham_Bahirat

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@rooneytutoring every country has corruption, but i can assure you that we have less corruption than Pakistan, Russia and China. I know our officers are no clean as european officer but still better than those three

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking785 ай бұрын

    Having previously spent several years doing administrative support to the US Army security assistance community, I very much appreciate the perspectives provided in this piece.

  • @danger3_255

    @danger3_255

    5 ай бұрын

    jesus christ

  • @thefisherking78

    @thefisherking78

    5 ай бұрын

    @@danger3_255 😆

  • @harshpandey3907
    @harshpandey39074 ай бұрын

    As an Indian, this is the most well researched through and unbiased video i have ever seen on the Indian Armed forces, thankyou for this!

  • @moors710
    @moors7105 ай бұрын

    As a former designer of US military aircraft and spacecraft (AFIT and Boeing) procurement documents out of a marvel comic book are standard.

  • @hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea

    @hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea

    5 ай бұрын

    Sure, but you've got the budget and the industry

  • @rajeshkanungo6627

    @rajeshkanungo6627

    5 ай бұрын

    The US has a cost plus and guaranteed cost overrun system. Plus the US has a long history of industrialization. India does not have the economies of scale for jet engines. The US production of jet engines is $54 Billion. India will need only a few hundred jets engines for its Tejas. It should have license produced Snecma engines or something like that. If Indian can buy French aircraft, I don't see any reason not to license produce the engines.

  • @zacklewis342

    @zacklewis342

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rajeshkanungo6627 Oh believe me, they've asked. France isn't stupid enough to give their most valuable IP to India so that they can underbid France with their own tech.

  • @moors710

    @moors710

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rajeshkanungo6627 Cost plus is not available for most contracts. If you overrun your bid, you payout of your pocket ( I worked the RAH-66 contract which was not cost plus). If the government modifies the requirements after the bid, then the contractor submits a bid for the changes, the government may solicit bids for these modifications to other contractors. The price usually escalates for specific modifications and a continued bid process. The last cost plus contract I am aware of that we did in my particular group was Dyna-Soar.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-20_Dyna-Soar

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rajeshkanungo6627 When it comes to jet engines, people need to realize that no amount of "Transfer of Technology" BS will allow India to catch up to the Gas Turbine superpowers of USA, UK and France. India needs to not only license produce foreign engines (like they are now planning to do with the GE-414), but also fund a parallel effort furthering the gains of the Kaveri engine program. Yes, under the Ghatak UCAV, we are planning to take the Kaveri forward, but that is a non-afterburning consolation price. We need to further jet fighter engine tech by our own effort and for that, a new engine program that can drop fit into the AMCA Mk2 is neccessary even as we need to avoid linking the AMCA Mk2 to this new engine and risking both programs repeating Tejas history.

  • @dudermcdudeface3674
    @dudermcdudeface36745 ай бұрын

    Military procurement system dysfunction should be measured in units of Milo Minderbinders.

  • @c1ph3rpunk

    @c1ph3rpunk

    5 ай бұрын

    The Elbonian scale.

  • @Whangareitaiji3138
    @Whangareitaiji31385 ай бұрын

    Re the military pensions issue. Don't forget, traditionally, the Indian military has always been a "family affair". That is multi-generational military families. And, often, almost entire towns and villages have a major component of their members either in the military, or on the pension. Hence there is a large sector of Indian society that wishes to see the existing system to continue.

  • @playedout148

    @playedout148

    5 ай бұрын

    Caste system.

  • @sahilthakur7336

    @sahilthakur7336

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol what a bozo😂😂😂​@@playedout148

  • @seneca983

    @seneca983

    2 ай бұрын

    So entire Kshatriya communities.

  • @phabove7

    @phabove7

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@playedout148😂😂😂 Living under the Rocks? 😂😂😂

  • @FLUFFYCAT_PNW
    @FLUFFYCAT_PNW5 ай бұрын

    Your range is so impressive. You've really carved out such an awesome niche for yourself here on KZread. I really appreciate you deciding to share all of this analysis and knowledge with us all. It's been a real pleasure. Hope you're well, and that you get everything that the new year has to offer. 🎉

  • @georgewaters6424

    @georgewaters6424

    5 ай бұрын

    Every single word of this.

  • @rossmurray6849
    @rossmurray68495 ай бұрын

    Perun, are you taking a holiday over Xmas? You deserve one.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Same man, do take a break

  • @Hebdomad7

    @Hebdomad7

    5 ай бұрын

    This video is likely one that's been in production for a while and put in the back catalog ready to ship when he wants to take a break.

  • @xikaijiang5284
    @xikaijiang52845 ай бұрын

    Japan: We don't switch things up often, but when we do it, we go for the bleeding edge. India: We will stick to the cold war stuff until we can locally produce this Blackwall-tapping, Psi-Jump drive propelled... thingy that can also strike from the Warp we requested, on budget, in accordance with our procedures. Japan: Good luck, with that... Edit: I don't know if its my wordings are wrong or people don't know fun anymore. The point of the joke is India having fancifully high QR standard, but also want it cheap, local, and go through its wierd admin procedures. The other interlocutor being Japan is because of it also having this tendency of staying with the old then hop to the edge. The difference being while Japan's tech hopping is toward something rather realistic, India on the other hand, persues more... fantastic goal. As Perun pointed out, it works sometimes, and works well if it worked, but more often it runs into problems. TLDR: Indian defense sector is kind of Japanese on acid.

  • @carlosandleon

    @carlosandleon

    5 ай бұрын

    you wish

  • @MyHandelsMessiah

    @MyHandelsMessiah

    5 ай бұрын

    Lmfao that's not close to realistic India won't surpass Japan in technological advancements

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    5 ай бұрын

    @@MyHandelsMessiah Depends. We already have in a couple of areas. India holds the world record for:- 1.) Deepest deep sea crawler (for deep sea mining). It is called the Varaha. 2.) Longest distance achieved in quantum entanglement communication through commercial fiber optic cable (somewhere in the range of 380 km from what I remember). Also, India has developed on its own and demonstrated a direct ascent HTK anti-satellite missile. Japan at least hasn't demonstrated that yet. So there are niche areas where India does have some technologies Japan doesn't yet have. But in the broad sense, obviously Japan is more advanced technologically. In a broad sense, it isn't really surprising that Japan is ahead of India in tech for now. Because they are a developed nation and a larger economy than India (for at least the next couple of years, after that India will surpass them economically). And that is when Indian economic heft starts playing in India's favour to offset Japan's developed nation advantage. In next couple of years, India will have its own independent human spaceflight program and its own-designed and built Exascale supercomputer. Japan has yet to do either of this and while it will get the supercomputer part, they won't have the budget for an independent human spaceflight program.

  • @1Ministras

    @1Ministras

    5 ай бұрын

    More like: Japan: We don't switch things up often, but when we do it, we go for the bleeding edge. India: We will stick to the cold war stuff until we buy something from the ruzzians When it comes to engineering India is far far behind. Haven't heard anybody use Indian designed machinery or weapons. In fact I haven't heard about ANY Indian engineering company.

  • @IndianArma

    @IndianArma

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@1Ministras india supplies weapons to Vietnam, Philippines and most notably Armenia, after the norgno karabakh conflict. Indian automobile company TATA, owns Aston Martin, jaguar and land rover. Indian engineering is powering the latest iteration of cost effective space exploration, a majority of thr most advanced chips that are fabricated elsewhere are designed in india. Besides, India has an edge in quantum entanglement, only behind China, India has a long way to go. But your statement is more reflective of your ignorance as opposed to an assessment of reality.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc
    @SounakDas-zb3xc5 ай бұрын

    Your Italian/Swedish Pasta analogy regarding Indian diversity was top notch😅

  • @SweetLittleAki
    @SweetLittleAki5 ай бұрын

    A Tex Talks Battletech lecture on Great House Military Procurement with Perun as guest presentor isn't something I knew I needed before today lol. Fantastic Work as always. You can't ask for a better associate than Tex

  • @piedpiper1172
    @piedpiper11725 ай бұрын

    Sounds less like they wanted a “gold standard” domestic tank and more like they wanted a magic domestic tank.

  • @jimmy37591

    @jimmy37591

    5 ай бұрын

    India is either the sidewalk is the byblic restroom or bollywood magic I win button by next month from an outsiders perspective.

  • @augustuslunasol10thapostle

    @augustuslunasol10thapostle

    5 ай бұрын

    Get the magic book we are making this thing fly

  • @Sash-Vintage
    @Sash-Vintage5 ай бұрын

    Spent 5 years in India, working,living enjoying the country isn’t one you can compare with anyone else. Complicated, yes but the potential is well outlined in your vid. Most valuable in my view; the largest (by population)true democracy in the world, for decades! That deserves a massive hats off,India 🇮🇳

  • @u2beuser714

    @u2beuser714

    5 ай бұрын

    Its not a true democracy, read reporters without borders they jail their journalists.

  • @nenasiek

    @nenasiek

    5 ай бұрын

    India is also one of the weakest democraties in the world, and its getting worse not better.

  • @nicebro9000

    @nicebro9000

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks dear for this lovely comment 😃🫶🏻🇮🇳👍🏻

  • @ravanpee1325

    @ravanpee1325

    5 ай бұрын

    True demogracy, sure buddy rofl

  • @bjorwl

    @bjorwl

    5 ай бұрын

    If they only knew how to use toilets..

  • @Jedsa009
    @Jedsa0095 ай бұрын

    As someone who used to work as a software developer, I have sympathy for those who tried to build weapons domestically for India. Their Ministry of Defense seems to be an irritating customer, always coming with unrealistic demands and ever-changing requirements.

  • @lolasdm6959

    @lolasdm6959

    5 ай бұрын

    Is it unrealistic? Those are the things current gen hardware do.

  • @benudharmadhi4154

    @benudharmadhi4154

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@lolasdm6959everything has a cost in it, cant come under a certain budget

  • @benudharmadhi4154

    @benudharmadhi4154

    5 ай бұрын

    That's why, the jokes about indian domestic weapons have to pass through lunar trials, deep sea trials, Mars trials before getting inducted in ,

  • @lolasdm6959

    @lolasdm6959

    5 ай бұрын

    @@benudharmadhi4154 No the military requests for a hardware that is up to current gen standards. The requirements are easily passed by even last gen Russian hardware. India can't make it, simple as that. R&D makes something that is super heavy, mixed and match of incompatible components, and somehow more expensive than American weapons.

  • @benudharmadhi4154

    @benudharmadhi4154

    5 ай бұрын

    @@lolasdm6959 have you seen the requirements for NGMBT?

  • @dyingearth
    @dyingearth5 ай бұрын

    When LazerPig said Arjun development was a comedy (this is after India decided not to buy T-14 tanks from Russia and restarted its own effort) he wasn't kidding.

  • @user-kq5ke5yb6k

    @user-kq5ke5yb6k

    5 ай бұрын

    To be fair, even Russia hasn't made/bought many T-14 tanks....

  • @johnbaran577

    @johnbaran577

    5 ай бұрын

    LazerPig is great! Wish he would up load more

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    4 ай бұрын

    To be fair, Indian defence industries produced many failures in the era that it made Arjun in, stuff like Trishul SAM, BHIM SPG, etc. Compare that to now, when Indian defence industry is making largely successful programs like the Astra, VL-SRSAM, QRSAM, ATAGS, MGS, etc. QRSAM, for example, is a short range mobile AD with state-of-the-art Gallium Nitride AESA radars, active homing, etc. So people making fun of Indian effort at making a new tank after Arjun are basically jumping the gun. Will it be a world beater? No. I don't expect our boffins to suddenly create a super cannon with an APFSDS better than the M829A3 or something. But it is not going to be a slouch either. Multiple technologies for the new tank are already being tested way before the actual tank's design has even been hinted at. For example, its 1500 HP engine is already bench testing. Quite the contrast to the Arjun where the engine and many other components had to be imported because domestic alternatives either weren't ready on time or else not upto the mark. Also, this time around, world renown Indian private behemoths like Tata, L&T and Mahindra are involved in the development effort from the prototypes stage itself. They have already made the Indian Stryker equivalent (two different models in fact) based on this new method of involving private industry from the get go. Now they are doing the same for the FICV and will eventually do it for the next tank as well. Ofcourse the litmus test of this all will be how the light tank project Zorawar turns out. The key problem in the Arjun program wasn't that the tank design was bad or that India didn't have the tech prerequisites complete. It was that the Army's DG Mechanized Forces was not on the same page as the CVRDE. While today there have been steps taken to address that, the efficacy of those tanks has yet to be proven (early signs from Zorawar don't appear to be promising, but it is too soon to tell, we'll know by end of this year).

  • @av94718

    @av94718

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@death_paradebro how do u have so much knowledge on defence

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    4 ай бұрын

    @@av94718 More than a decade of reading on the topic from well curated source coupled with my background in mechanical engineering. Not that hard to do actually. Its just that I've spent a lot of time on this hobby.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben125 ай бұрын

    For those who freak out about nuclear powers fighting each other, allow me to introduce you to India and Pakistan

  • @theotherohlourdespadua1131

    @theotherohlourdespadua1131

    5 ай бұрын

    These countries make North Korea + PRChina and the US look sane...

  • @jatin9070

    @jatin9070

    5 ай бұрын

    India won't be starting a nuclear war and we have the past four wars to back that up. Those wars were started by pakistan with the backing of so called world's biggest democracy USA and world's biggest communist country china. USA was supporting military rulers and terrorists of pakistan against india for such a long time and they called themselves supporter of democracy . Lol. That's the biggest lie. USA have no allies or friends USA just have interests . USA would burn even it's own neighbourhood like in Latin America for its interests . Secondly USA have an active agreement with pakistan according to which USA gives pakistan money and help it to maintain its nuclear weapons and keep an eye on what it's doing with nuclear weapons. In case of terrorists doing what they did in afganistan like taking control of pakistan . In that situation USA will take control of pakistan nuclear weapons before pakistan falls. Unless a USA leader or pakistan military had lost their minds ,we won't be having nuclear war between india and pakistan .

  • @Loooam
    @Loooam5 ай бұрын

    India’s relationships with the West and Russia reminds me of how Turkey (Türkiye) balances its relationships. How both are not on anyone’s side but their own

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    5 ай бұрын

    Turkey is a NATO member. Meaning they are obligated to fight in a war when called upon. That is a pretty significant decision to outsource to other foreign powers. And any nation that does that can't claim to be nearly in the same league as India. Indian diplomacy is a whole another level.

  • @Loooam

    @Loooam

    5 ай бұрын

    @@death_parade true they’re not neutral in exactly the same way. India is more non-aligned, but Turkey is shockingly non-aligned compared to other NATO countries

  • @knightatdawndonbynight8432

    @knightatdawndonbynight8432

    5 ай бұрын

    ​​@@Loooam Turkey in being NATO member (which is a direct military alliance geared towards strategic military posture against Russia) yet strategically coordinating with Russia on defense including acquiring Russian weapons positions itself as a betrayor with depraved expansionist agenda and considers these shifts of allegiances and vacillations to be in accordance with their perceived lessons of historical Hudaifa agreement of Islam that focuses on playing great powers, distracting from its own strategic expansionist agenda, making small concessions from a position of strength after tough negotiations and asking for ransoms using blackmail as tool of extortion holding hostage of certain evolved situations and portraying those as friendly/neutral gestures and winning tiny strategic battles this way till a tipping point is reached. Turkey is an islamist wannabe great power that is antagonistic towards judeo-christian religio-cultural values and free, democratic and tolerant modernday european culture and Turkey wants to sabotage Europe by getting inside it, a)through insidious demographic alterations b) by getting included into the EU. Turkey is anti western small time concubine that doubles up as bedroom conspirator of rival ganglords. India' has not been in any military alliance wither Russia or the west. India's foreign policy approaches are holistic, geared towards protecting its own territorial integrity and sovereignty, follows a policy of nonintervention regarding domestic affairs of other sovereign countries so long as those affairs do not impinge upon India's core strategic interests (that of its territorial integrity and sovereignty). India is no more a reluctant nonaligned regional power; it has always been nonwestern (but not anti western) and now a multialigned emerging world power that seeks strategic partnerships where strategic interests align (example vis a vis military expansionism of the CCP regime). India is that office colleague that will drink tea with you at the cafe but will always be generous enough to knock on your door for a chat in your drawing room, forget about bedroom conspiracies. Unlike Turkey which has been following a miscarried identity of great power, India never had dilemma about it being a great power; it used to be reluctant and less expressive in past but that increasingly looks no more to be the case. Unlike Turkey which is complicit in arson and then pretends to a firefighter, India is a pacifist power. India also has a chequered colonial and islamic conquest history thrust upon it, that of its people being culturally subjugated and financially exploited, to deal with as a continuous indigenous civilisation whilst the Turkish deep state in its psyche and worldview keeps ruminating nostalgically about its outward colinial invasions, conquests and expansions. Two very different countries.

  • @alinmeleandra3175
    @alinmeleandra31755 ай бұрын

    The Mig-21 are known as death traps for experienced pilots... My Grandfather was ground crew at Deveselu Air Base in, Romania back in the 60' and 70's. He was responsible among other thing to collect the remains of jets that became "agricultural machines"... One of our neighbors was the Flight group commander and, since I had a love for Jets, we talked a lot (that happened in the 90's). And we talked about all type of facts regarding US and USSR fighters, including difference between F-16's, Mig-29s and Mig-21 which all became part of Romania's Air Force at some point... From what I remember from my neighbor (who also had this "experience" but survived), the main issue with the Mig21 is that its engine might flame-out if a certain angle of attack is being reached at a certain (relative low) speed (I don't remember the exact numbers)... When this happens, an experienced pilot would attempt an engine restart or a forced landing trying to save the plane, while a younger pilot (generally trained to bail-out in this situation) would probably decide that there is not reason to try to save a crap-machine...

  • @SkywalkerWroc
    @SkywalkerWroc5 ай бұрын

    Indian procurement sounds like a cultural issue. I have exactly the same impression from working with Indian friends - expecting absurd things from the new features, while being cool and danady with ancient old sh**.

  • @SodiumSyndicate

    @SodiumSyndicate

    5 ай бұрын

    Indians don't care what you think.

  • @rpierce9810

    @rpierce9810

    5 ай бұрын

    OMGoodness, I was going to say the same thing. It is very much a cultural issue. Some can be extremely frugal, have unrealistic expectations and wants better than every one else.

  • @maximus2536

    @maximus2536

    5 ай бұрын

    As an Indian who lived in India for 20 years and now in Germany, I have absolutely no clue what culture you are talking about since there's like a 100 of them in India each with their own mindset, etc. I know this goes against your established view of us but if an "Indian" or let's say a human... Is learned in what he's using they don't expect anything unrealistic, it's a matter of our job positions and roles which lead to pressures and stresses thus the unrealistic expectations, just as in any other "culture". But sure you wanna get your likes and validation so go ahead, stereotype us😂, or even better insult me after you realise how stupid you sound when you class all Indians under just your "Indian friends".

  • @parthmendapara574

    @parthmendapara574

    4 ай бұрын

    As an Indian i would like to know your western perspective on this issue. What you meant to say was that indians are brain wired in such way that they want every features and all benefits in one product. Is that right ?

  • @rpierce9810

    @rpierce9810

    4 ай бұрын

    @@parthmendapara574 I love experiencing different cultures and appreciating diversity. In a way, you can almost say the way our brains are wired IS our culture. But I would not say they are hard wired, because I am 50yo Syrian descent, with very conservative upbringing. I left home at 18 and was endlessly curious at the world I found. So I believe that I was able to rewire my brain to a certain degree from what I was originally designed for. And I still do, as a leader in my workplace I need to relearn how to best navigate different relationships with respect for everyone.

  • @dannyn.6933
    @dannyn.69335 ай бұрын

    At 12:25, you said that China is India's most significant trading partner. Which has been true in previous years, but recently the United States has become India's largest trading partner.

  • @abhilashyadav2274

    @abhilashyadav2274

    5 ай бұрын

    China and USA fulfill different needs of India. None are replaceable.

  • @HarishankarPM

    @HarishankarPM

    5 ай бұрын

    Hell Yeah,Go USA💪

  • @u2beuser714

    @u2beuser714

    5 ай бұрын

    China is still 2nd largest trading partner so that still doesnt disprove the fact that its one of the most important trading partner of india

  • @Pu19899
    @Pu198993 ай бұрын

    Some of the stats are pretty much old and underestimated the capabilities and range of missiles

  • @sahilchakraborty9917
    @sahilchakraborty99174 ай бұрын

    As a citizen i can confirm that you provided with the most accurate as well as neutral perspective, observation and facts of Indian defence economy...well researched work brother 🎉😊

  • @libshastra
    @libshastra5 ай бұрын

    There's one aspect that needs to be covered that hasn't been covered. Corruption. Indian defense procurement of the past have been beset with corruption scandals.

  • @airborneranger-ret
    @airborneranger-ret5 ай бұрын

    22:30 - "Sometimes nothing projects friendship and good will like a carrier air wing" - lol

  • @jeremygibbs7342
    @jeremygibbs73425 ай бұрын

    I hope you are billing India for your unbiased assessments. Having someone tell your stuff is decent but also shit, is very valuable these days and not enough world leaders listen to it.

  • @radomirblazik
    @radomirblazik5 ай бұрын

    About the propensity of the MiG-21 to crash, it is by design. It has blown flaps, that means the lift is dependent on the engine power. Any fluctuation, birdstrike, turbulence strong enough to upset the engine and you stall. Then there's the unreliability inherent to the engines, originally developed as a single use drone powerplant, then made to work more than once, mostly.

  • @SounakDas-zb3xc

    @SounakDas-zb3xc

    5 ай бұрын

    Also, the airframes are positively ANCIENT by this time... it is embarrassing that we are flying those things in 2023

  • @MarcosElMalo2

    @MarcosElMalo2

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@SounakDas-zb3xc I suspect it’s the physical frailty of the airframes that are the major issue at this point. A jet fighter airframe is subject to incredible stresses, and its lifetime is measured in thousands of hours. India is flying those MiGs well past the point of safety. If you x-rayed the frames, I bet they’re riddled with all sorts of internal stress fractures, and if you showed those x-rays to the pilots, they’d refuse to fly. You can upgrade an aircraft all you want with the latest technological wonders, but that won’t stop planes from falling apart.

  • @surajbiradar9827

    @surajbiradar9827

    5 ай бұрын

    Interesting... Does the mig23/27 family have somewhat similar engine problems?? I may be wrong, but I have read somewhere about the gases from the main gun entering the intake and putting the engine out of action.

  • @u2beuser714

    @u2beuser714

    5 ай бұрын

    ​​@@MarcosElMalo2 I dont think it has to do with its inherent design. For example Croatia until recently used Mig-21s and had absolutely no problems with the durability of the airframe , the only thing thats changed are the radar systems which croatia acquired from israel. So why india struggles with them yet croatia a country fraction of the size of anchural pradesh doesnt?

  • @akashdevani1960

    @akashdevani1960

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@u2beuser714when was croatia ever in a major war or armed conflict. Croatia and India are incomparable the duties of India MiGs is way wider than croatias+ India also unlike Croatia isn't In a security bloc so it has more regular patrols anda higher readiness than Croatia those can be the reason for more frequent collapse in Indian MiGs and also that India has a very wide range of geography and temperature those stresses also build up

  • @teresabenson3385
    @teresabenson33855 ай бұрын

    1:08:26 Love the succinct apologetics for your interest in procurement economics. The war in Ukraine, along with your channel, have given me a great appreciation of this area.

  • @blanchjoe1481
    @blanchjoe14815 ай бұрын

    Dear PERUN, While I am sure there are members in the ( IACC ) Indian Army Central Command who are passing this video around as we speak, and while running the risk of very nasty blow-back from Indian Nationalists, I believe this was a major piece of work. It is a testament to the quality of your efforts that your KZread Video comments section represent some of the most knowledgeable and sophisticated responders of any on the platform. Few KZreadrs have come from a background as yours and then risen to gain the audience ( and respect ) of multiple Intelligence, Military, and Information Agencies. Sending you, and your team my best for the Holidays, and for your coming New Year.

  • @Reticent.Breeze

    @Reticent.Breeze

    5 ай бұрын

    I can assure you that Indians online are getting more sensible by the day. The trolls who abuse great work like this video are blinded by nationalism. On the flip side, you will also find Indians who want validation for India from foreigners and unfairly hate their country without any critical thinking. However, there is a sizable chunk of sensible people in the audience. And we are seeking unbiased and well-researched narratives. As @PerunAU says in this video, most creators serve the extreme sides of the audience. It leaves us sensible people in want of real data and information. I hope more and more creators look at India with an unbiased analytical eye.

  • @SafavidAfsharid3197

    @SafavidAfsharid3197

    5 ай бұрын

    Why would nationalist like us hate this video lol. We want our country to succeed and we know what's wrong the military does in procurement and having star wars like expectations on indian defence industries while bowing to phoren maal lobby

  • @tamberlame27

    @tamberlame27

    5 ай бұрын

    Seriously though, where are all these nationalist trolls you speak off?

  • @abhilash9918

    @abhilash9918

    5 ай бұрын

    Why would Indian nationalists hate his video? This video was clearly well researched and has no ignorant propaganda talking points embedded in it, unlike what you usually get from western content creators. Infact, Indian nationalists would be cheering upon watching this video as it clearly shows the bias in treatment of local vs foreign equipment, as in the case of t90 vs Arjun tank. India is increasingly becoming self reliant and Indian nationalists are the ones regularly calling out defence ministry and Indian armed forces on their fkups. This video will be widely shared by Indian nationalists.

  • @KurianfromIndia

    @KurianfromIndia

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@abhilash9918 As an Indian myself. You know the standard Indian mindset. If they hear people praising our country they will go crazy if you are against them they either call you Pakistani bot or if they find you India they will go as far as to call racial slur and tease the person language.

  • @Not_Mr.G
    @Not_Mr.G5 ай бұрын

    Wow, a Tex/Perun crossover was not one I was expecting (except maybe as an april fools video on battlemech development and procurement.) it's funny how creators on youtube can sometimes connect.

  • @MarcosElMalo2

    @MarcosElMalo2

    5 ай бұрын

    Battlemech development will be a collab on Japanese procurement policy in 2050.

  • @idioluh5838

    @idioluh5838

    5 ай бұрын

    I won't mind an Indian small arms powerpoint by those two.

  • @jonathanshaltz7750

    @jonathanshaltz7750

    5 ай бұрын

    @@idioluh5838, think we can get Ian McCollum to drop in too? And then Mike Easton can swoop in with an armful of Indian swords?

  • @matthewblake1884

    @matthewblake1884

    5 ай бұрын

    The algorithm scares me sometimes

  • @BNRmatt

    @BNRmatt

    5 ай бұрын

    Honestly I'd love to see a Perun/Tex parody collaboration going over Star League procurement procedures. That would be so lit.

  • @lifelearner47
    @lifelearner475 ай бұрын

    That was so utterly fascinating! And since I'm France based, the procurement section was the most informative! Thank you so much, and happy holidays.

  • @NoName-sb9tp
    @NoName-sb9tp5 ай бұрын

    A day early present? Thanks Perun. And Merry Christmas 🎉

  • @horstnietzsche1923

    @horstnietzsche1923

    5 ай бұрын

    I mean tomorrow is Christmas eve.

  • @aaravahluwalia2877
    @aaravahluwalia28775 ай бұрын

    finally some content on my country, thank you mate.

  • @gfenwick1
    @gfenwick15 ай бұрын

    many moons ago I contracted to a company dealing with the IN. They put a whole new spin on complex procurement and hyper complex logistics they make the ADF look like the poster child for best practice procurement

  • @fretted4life

    @fretted4life

    5 ай бұрын

    Welcome to Indian bureaucracy.

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    4 ай бұрын

    Lmao. Be thankful you were only dealing with the IN, not the IA or IAF. IN is definitely the most pragmatic of them all.

  • @EricDKaufman
    @EricDKaufman5 ай бұрын

    Professor Tex is really giving out the Christmas gifts generously this year. Hail Cargonia!!!!!

  • @ojassarup258
    @ojassarup2585 ай бұрын

    This was a really good and comprehensive look at Indian defence strategy and economics, and was well worth the wait. Happy holidays, Perun, you definitely deserve a good break!

  • @aliakbarsafdari4084
    @aliakbarsafdari40845 ай бұрын

    Ayyyyyy that's my country, lessgo! Happy holidays, Perun

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid5 ай бұрын

    I'm perversely kind of disappointed that China and India don't lean more heavily into the "no firearms" thing and start to equip and train up a unit of modern swordsmen. With modern materials and tactics. Come on guys, you know you want this!

  • @jab100lochaber

    @jab100lochaber

    5 ай бұрын

    Per 13;50 timestamp, it sounds more like a sales opportunity for Negan's Lucille Baseball Bat Supply Company (Walking Dead reference).

  • @pyramidsinegypt
    @pyramidsinegypt5 ай бұрын

    It's not that Russia abolished 'retiring from the military' - it's just that they changed the rule for doing so from 'being alive' to.. something else.

  • @joephysics5469
    @joephysics54695 ай бұрын

    Outstanding research and composition - definitely masters thesis level work. Presentation far exceeds the norm and entertainment level is wonderful. One of the best historical channels on the planet.

  • @stellarmella9557
    @stellarmella95574 ай бұрын

    for a major country you think India has the worst defense procurement? my God, you haven't looked into Indonesia, our defense procurement would make India's defense bureaucracy & procurement look like an efficient high speed low drag operation

  • @mertyenen6711
    @mertyenen67114 ай бұрын

    That was, and by far, the best analysis I have seen about India's capabilities. Great job Perun! I have watched some your previous materials, but now I'm compelled to binge-watch the rest. Kudos!

  • @captainmaim
    @captainmaim5 ай бұрын

    God bless Australia and its greatest export, Perun

  • @rajeshkanungo6627

    @rajeshkanungo6627

    5 ай бұрын

    I really like Perun's work, but their greatest export is their band, Men at Work, and their song: Down Under.

  • @clmdcc
    @clmdcc5 ай бұрын

    Interesting, but also enlighting to see Indian Military procurement suffer many of the same challenges as other nations.

  • @rajeshkanungo6627

    @rajeshkanungo6627

    5 ай бұрын

    Nah, Indian bureaucracy hires extremely intelligent people who know how to gum up the works much better than your regular bureaucrat in the US.

  • @death_parade

    @death_parade

    4 ай бұрын

  • @sagniknath4344
    @sagniknath43445 ай бұрын

    What a bittersweet Christmas gift Perun! Thanks a lot from India.

  • @Navigator2166
    @Navigator21665 ай бұрын

    This was fantastic. I knew so little about this nation's military situation. Thank you for your hard work. The results clearly shine threw. Have a wonderful Holiday. Have fun and get some rest. See you next year!

  • @VindicAlpha
    @VindicAlpha5 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas and happy New Year, Perun! That said, Tex is a man of many talents and immense Battletech Lore.

  • @andymarino4638
    @andymarino46385 ай бұрын

    India grows, but Indian entropy easily keeps pace.

  • @giriaakula
    @giriaakula5 ай бұрын

    This is a gold treasure. As an indian I can agree with most of your findings. Keep up the good work.

  • @davidwolf9663
    @davidwolf96635 ай бұрын

    Perun, I truly appreciate what had to be an enormously heavy lift in producing this video. I throughly enjoyed your comprehensive analysis, which sheds light on the complex global security picture. Happy Holidays and healthy 2024! Sincerely, David

  • @thinktwicespeakonce482
    @thinktwicespeakonce4825 ай бұрын

    This was really interesting. Thank you for the effort. The inefficiency of the crazy requirements was very eye opening. It seems that India would be much further along if they had aimed for long term small improvements.

  • @octasteve
    @octasteve5 ай бұрын

    Didn't expect a Perun x Black Pants Legion crossover.

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson61455 ай бұрын

    You missed a very important training structure, the Indian Army Staff College (now the Pakistan Command and Staff College) in Quetta. It was considered equal an perhaps superior to Sandhurst. Many very important officers in the British Army were trained there.

  • @adamwells9352
    @adamwells93525 ай бұрын

    Your dedication to thorough research is greatly appreciated. Democracy is founded on expertise, and expertise is founded on education. Thank you for educating yourself and then us.

  • @johnkeller2952
    @johnkeller29525 ай бұрын

    I think reasonable people will agree that you have made a very evenhanded and fair assessment of Indian defense here

  • @martavdz4972

    @martavdz4972

    5 ай бұрын

    Most important thing is, whether Indians agree or find some mistakes. From the comments, it seems like they agree, which means it genuinely is an even-handed and fair assessment. Huge props to Perun!

  • @tonivazquez1081
    @tonivazquez10815 ай бұрын

    How not to watch? You keep making bangers about serious topics, always with good research and a good deal of caring to reflect the truth plus admit when research in the openly discussed parts of the weekly topic only can get you so far. Really, great video as always. Hope you & family & colleagues have a fantastic 2024 . Greetings from BCN.

  • @Crusader8901
    @Crusader89015 ай бұрын

    "This is a really informative and detailed video about the Indian military. I appreciate the balanced approach, discussing both the strengths and weaknesses. It's important to understand the potential and the challenges the military faces. Great job on this analysis!"

  • @patrickanderberg5618
    @patrickanderberg56185 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your amazing ability to narrate and make incredibly boring subjects interesting, understandable and completely irresistible to listen to and learn more about. Wishing you a wonderful Christmas and Happy New Year!

  • @albinorhino6
    @albinorhino65 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the unparalleled analysis. You have quickly become one of my favourite KZread channels. Merry Christmas, and all the best in the New Year.

  • @terbog
    @terbog5 ай бұрын

    Wish you a happy holiday season. I really appreciate the weekly insight in complex subjects with as less bias as humanly possible. Thank you very much for all the work you're putting into this!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_5 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! India's situation is an intricate and complex one but it shows immense potential.

  • @Gates54
    @Gates545 ай бұрын

    I learned a lot in this one. India’s military is not something I’ve spent as much time studying as some others. Quality work as usual.

  • @GTM9164
    @GTM91645 ай бұрын

    I love how arguably the most controversial thing in this video is saying its called Soccer 🤣

  • @seneca983

    @seneca983

    2 ай бұрын

    That's just short for "association football".

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE5 ай бұрын

    My grandsons are lucky to be "Indian Australians" with both passports & languages. This will be good imho for their lives. Happy Christmas from Canberra all.

  • @Hebdomad7

    @Hebdomad7

    5 ай бұрын

    Man, cricket season must be exciting at your place! :D

  • @UncleJoeLITE

    @UncleJoeLITE

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's all "go India"!@@Hebdomad7

  • @SodiumSyndicate

    @SodiumSyndicate

    5 ай бұрын

    Can't have both passports, India doesn't allow dual citizenships.

  • @thetanksofworldwarii-tanka4368
    @thetanksofworldwarii-tanka43685 ай бұрын

    Excellent video. I just wanted to add on to the commentary regarding the Indian Arjun tank. A few years ago the ARDE developed a new ammo for their 120mm gun that was supposed to offer a good combination of penetration followed up by an explosion. Unfortunately, they decided to get all fancy and use Latin rather than the standard English preposition "with" when explaining their new round which offered penetration and explosion. This resulted in the rather unfortunately named "120 mm Penetration Cum Blast (PCB) AND Thermobaric (TB) Ammunition For MBT Arjun". It certainly must be considered one of the most inadvertently pornographic developments in tank technology since the Australian phallic hull machine gun on the WWII era Sentinel tank.

  • @andrewmulqueen2697
    @andrewmulqueen26975 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video, I look forward every week to sit down and watch PowerPoint slides. I know it's crazy but I do enjoy them. Keep up the good work @Perun and Happy New Year down under from the UK.

  • @AlexanderOutdoor
    @AlexanderOutdoor5 ай бұрын

    You are doing a fantastic job, was hoping for a brief on India. Finally its here 😊 Merry Christmas

  • @warmachine5835
    @warmachine58355 ай бұрын

    The concept of the multi-polar arms race is an interesting one... I don't want to say scary, but that's implicit I think. I'd never really considered it before, and it's one of the big takeaways from this presentation I think.

  • @vermashwetank
    @vermashwetank5 ай бұрын

    I like how you put Railway Protection Force in the thumbnail 😂

  • @surajbiradar9827

    @surajbiradar9827

    5 ай бұрын

    Especially in the video about the "defense force"😂

  • @panzerjaeger4274
    @panzerjaeger42745 ай бұрын

    I look forward to your videos each weekend and appreciate how much effort goes into each one. Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, you deserve it! Bob

  • @chaitanyasaikumarnimmala6392
    @chaitanyasaikumarnimmala63925 ай бұрын

    Best video from a foreigner i have seen. You did a lots of research. I appreciate your efforts. I just generally comment on videos

  • @HarryP457
    @HarryP4575 ай бұрын

    Thanks Perun for your content over the last year and I very much look forward to watching much more in the year to come. As a 30+ year veteran of the events industry, I can honestly say that I have never looked forward to seeing a PPT until I started watching your content. A Merry Christmas and a safe, prosperous New Year to you and yours.

  • @kraag6641
    @kraag66415 ай бұрын

    Holy cow what a wonderful, informative, unbiased, entertaining and enjoyable video. Perun, your videos keep getting better and better. I look forward to each and every one. Thank you for the knowledge and the humor. You are aces!

  • @RaghulS-hj6vt
    @RaghulS-hj6vt5 ай бұрын

    Perun, Thank you very much for making an unbiased video about my country. I very much appreciate your effort 👍 Merry Christmas in advance guys 🎄🎁

  • @bosuttlutt
    @bosuttlutt5 ай бұрын

    I love how much fun you have cheffing comparative analysis into a comprehensible dish, served up with sides of ambitious and savage asides, with an aperitif of sober reminders. It's masterful. And the slideshow background keeps the info from becoming just entertaining. It's like you made a plan in full sentences, then executed it. What a refreshing notmadlad you are.

  • @chadenright
    @chadenright5 ай бұрын

    Merry christmas and a happy new year! I think you nailed the "Fair and balanced perspective on India's military," angle.

  • @AhNoWiC
    @AhNoWiC5 ай бұрын

    Oh boy it's 2 AM my time, best learn about a country mine will likely never be in conflict with, which is obviously relevant when I work in the psychiatric care industry. Jokes aside love the content Perun.

  • @chromatron5230

    @chromatron5230

    5 ай бұрын

    The virtues of youtube i guess

  • @ProtonCannon
    @ProtonCannon5 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas Perun! Thank you for everything once again during this long and exceedingly turbulent year

  • @H1LOL
    @H1LOL5 ай бұрын

    Wait what? A Saturday Perun video, am I dreaming?

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