As an ex Jaguar development engineer I am interested to see that whilst the Indian branch of the Tata Group can produce 3 new models this year, JLR's abysmal record is just one - the large Jaguar I Pace which is now 4 years old. Not surprising that JLR CEO has been fired! These new EVs will help fill the gap for B & C segment cars at the same price or less than their ICE equivalents that for the majority of sales in the UK & Europe. Cant wait to try one!

@DC.409

Жыл бұрын

Indeed JLR has quietly built its own battery manufacturing business, the battery universal platform is now ready. Undoubtedly the ultimate question is do they intend to import the Indian manufactured cars with a Jaguar badge for the under £30,000 market. It has been done before and presently there are only three cars, in that market, the leaf, mini and MG4 and they are all selling well.

I would buy any cheap car or Tricycle. I am a german and living in Ghana since 2003.

I’m 59 years old. Retired & drive very little. I would LOVE an expensive, small, go around town car. I keep thinking about the Chevy Bolt, but keep hesitating because it really should be no more than $22,000. Not $32,000 plus.

@t0dd000

Жыл бұрын

All the EVs are overpriced. The Teslas most overpriced of all. They are attacking the early adopter market first.

@billybrown555

Жыл бұрын

I agree! I would love one for an 80 mile round trip to work.

@E-BikingAdventures

Жыл бұрын

I would perfer an inexpensive small car than an expensive one.

Realistic range is around 150km. 400V architecture Built quality is of highest grade.

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

you are nutcase. it gives 250 km range.

@mayankm5200

Жыл бұрын

250km

300+ km range for 10000$ is amazing. Years ago I bought a 25 km/h electric moped with 50 km range for almost 3 thousand euros. This is a serious EV car for 10000!

@tushtushar

Жыл бұрын

It should give real world range of 220-240km

@koenraad4618

Жыл бұрын

@@tushtushar only down hill its 315 km, no hills in my country

@tushtushar

Жыл бұрын

@@koenraad4618 😂

@YashSharma-rx3ff

Жыл бұрын

@@koenraad4618 Did you liked his comment?

@udaysawant2094

Жыл бұрын

The 10000$ car is a hatchback named Tiago with a range of 180kms. Nexon is a small SUV priced 20000 to 27000 with 30kwh - 40kwh battery pack giving range of 220kms to 280kms real world range.

The Canadian and American car markets desperately need more choices in EV's especially in the lower price brackets. The demand in Canada alone has led to a minimum of 18 months - 2yr waits f you are lucky to get an allocation. That's with an average EV price of $65,000 CAD. All EV's are sold out unless you're willing to pay absurd markups.

I’m looking forward to all these cheaper models as there just isn’t enough secondhand EV’s yet. Catering to a less wealthy segment of the population but also a much bigger segment of the population. Come on Tesla get the model 2 coming off the production line 👍🏻

@dgurevich1

Жыл бұрын

Only a question of time everywhere. The first gen EVs had a big dip in depreciation because the batteries degraded too quickly. I believe the market needs at least one more generation of second hand EVs to correct itself. so wait 3-5 years and get one of the cars that are sold now. My plan is to buy a used tesla model 3 with CATL's LFP batteries when they are 5 years old.

Tata made a $3000 Nano. So the $10000 EV doesn't come as a surprise.

@lumtavon1952

Жыл бұрын

That was not a car but a mopet with a roof. Thus too expensive versus a decent motorcycle thus a complete failure. It did sell 6 months decently then down and down

The nexon is a cool looking design. Tata has hit the nail on the head and I reckon, because of the price, they would probably sell very well around the world. Also a worthy note. India has got some of the best tech heads in the world. If the build quality and reliability was there, I would definitely consider the nexon.

@YashSharma-rx3ff

Жыл бұрын

Your statements are contradictory.

@cyrusthegreat3081

Жыл бұрын

Tata nexon is five star crash test passed vehicle

Tata was a household name growing up in India, they have become a global brand in last two decades. I would buy these cheap Tata EVs at $10K in US, even $15-20k. Due to their low price, insuring them would be much cheaper in big cities like NYC. I dont need an advanced expensive Tesla vehicle just like i dont need a $1400 iPhone. I mostly drive less than 100miles a week. Indian cars have suspensions built to handle rough battered roads. These EVs may last forever and may be preferred for delivery services which drive less than 150miles per day.

@blueeyes6192

Жыл бұрын

😂

Absolutely that I would buy one, a simple one, not software sophisticated, but a bigger one; at 1.5 bigger, with a good and useful trunk volume behind the back seats, spare tire, eventually hatchback, etc, at $15 000.

2500 videos! Congrats Sam. Been a subscriber of yours since the very beginning. Thank you for your videos!

We need cheap EV's in the UK, so Yes

hey, electric Viking your subscriber here from India, I would like you to cover an EV company, Ola. What they have done for 12 months and their future plans will blow your mind. Point to note:- they have also built the world's largest 2W Factory.

Would absolutely love to see these come to the US market, but we're used to missing out on so many international vehicles, so I won't hold my breath.

@Shubham_Bahirat

10 ай бұрын

They laun Nexon ev 2023 i think that could rock in USA. With 20k price and looks

I bought nexon ev xz+ dark edition in april 2021 in which i have driven more than 19000km till now , When I bought a car, I had to check charging stations before going on long routes, but now it is not like that, now fast charging is easily available everywhere , But I think EV will not last long in India because every day one or the other new vehicle comes here like Toyota has just launched EV + diesel hybrid car ,indian transport minister has decided to allow the use of ethanol-based "flex-fuel engines" to power vehicles with local agricultural products instead of fossil fuels in 2021 dec .

Here in Canada our cars need cabin heat capable of handling minus 40. If the car can keep me warm, then I want one ASAP. The smaller the gadget feature list, the better (less to go wrong). Put me down for one.

@revaddict

Жыл бұрын

I think these are good for Toronto/Vancouver..

Yes the Tiago or the Wuling Macron is exactly what I want - ideal for a couple commuting in an Australian city. Problem is people in Australia are duped into getting huge vehicles for prestige and perceive 'safety' when in fact they are only safe for the driver and they kill more other road users. Small carbon footprint of these small battery EV commuters - less than 1/10th that of a Landcruiser - will become a major reason for buying them. But licensing fees for IC vehicles need to be increased (i.e. by up to $2000) to reflect their carbon and crash mortality cost and incentivize people to buy small EV's.

We need this in the U.S. so bad. It's difficult being a regular person here because it seems everything is marked up so much. Tesla's cost more than anywhere else on earth and dealerships are marking up all other models of evs so much it makes them unaffordable. I'm excited for a Tesla model 2, but I'm afraid of it costing 40-45k here and selling for 25k in China. Sorry for the rant, I'm just having a hard time these days with inflation/prices and can't afford a car for my family.

@buzzlightyear1484

8 ай бұрын

Yeah me too

The car Market in India is around 2.5 Million per annum. The biggest Car Manufacture in India is Maruti- Suzuki. They have a 50% Market share. Hyundai & Tata comes next, each with a 15% - 18% share. Tata Nexon was the first EV. Then came Tata Tigor ( Sedan ).Due to the high petrol price, people want $10000 electric cars here. Here comes Tata Tiago.( India is the biggest market for electric scooters. Electric scooter sales are catching up. You should make video on this ) The build quality of these cars is amazing as Tata owns steel and other metal manufacturing plants. The build quality is what revamped Tata's growth in the last 5 years. Before the acquisition of Landrover & Jaguar, Tata was not reliable. Tata also owns Software company. so it's easy for them to ship software. The charging infrastructure is pathetic, otherwise, India will sell lots of EVS.

@mayankm5200

Жыл бұрын

Market is 3million +. Don't count pandemic yr

Definitely!Get some to 🇬🇧

Now that you're a big mover and shaker on the EV scene, please use your considerable influence to get Tata motors to bring this little gem to Australia, Samuel. Thanks in advance.

@anglosaxonmike8325

Жыл бұрын

Well he has a big beard.....that's about all, this is only youtube....

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

Maybe after 12 months. first they need to meet indian demand

Get Jaguar to re-engineer the larger ones and give them a higher specification, sell them as Jaguars and they won’t be able to make enough. The I-Pace is an excellent vehicle, the fact it’s an EV just adds to that.

Tata is renowned globally for its trucks and buses so I do think they would be successful in the EV mass market. Name recognition matters. Tata's problem will very likely be that it cannot make enough to satisfy the demand. It will be interesting to see if Tata builds a new EV factory to satisfy the export market.

@stormtrooper8420

Жыл бұрын

TATA doesn't have much market out side India and literally none in developed countries. While BYD have market even in Europe.

@arunsadanandabhat8518

Жыл бұрын

@@stormtrooper8420 Tata cars can easily take over the budget EV hatchback in most countries, if only they had a market there. Tata has learnt a lot from the Tata Nano debacle back here in India and I can tell that all the three tigor, Tiago and Nexon are world class and have the ability to dominate their respective segments. The truth is they have a lot of features packed at the price , but is otherwise very difficult for other Auto manufacturers. Also , BYD is sort of a little expensive in India and considered more premium when compared to Tata 's offerings.

@stormtrooper8420

Жыл бұрын

@@arunsadanandabhat8518 India cars are trash in quality that's why "tata" Doesn't have a market outside India. Your manufacturing is inefficient and low quality. Even with your governments protectionist policies foreign brands dominate indian car Market for a reason.

@desigamer_tv3959

Жыл бұрын

@@stormtrooper8420 lol...go check out Tata's rank in India's monthwise car sales.

@-whackd

Жыл бұрын

Who is going to make the batteries?

Yes, I am English in Brazil; there is a huge market potential for a 10 - 15K US$ electric car here... Brazil is 2 - 5 years behind "ROW" in many tech areas; electric cars especially. Hybrid is just starting to grab market here; pure electric is less than 1%. very little road based charging infra, lots of apartments with difficult charging infra, few car models for sale.. But 2 - 3 models in the US$15K ball park would now help jump start the market.

Yes. More cheap EVs please

@kylereese4822

Жыл бұрын

There is a channel on KZread that converts Nissan Leaf`s to 18650 battery format and gets above 70kw in the battery tray... no reason it could not be bone to Tata ev`s...

Can't wait to welcome you to my hometown of San Diego! 🤙

@stephensullivan1011

Жыл бұрын

Ps Aptera is there.. You should get a tour ;)

I like the budget options coming out now. My favourite are the SEVs that have solar panels built into the panels.

Bring those to Brazil! Actually, build a factory here!

Let's have the Tiago in the UK, I'd be at the front of the queue (for the longer range version).

I'd be interested even though my plan is to hang on to my old ICE banger for as long as possible. I think even if we are talking AUD$25k, rather than AUD$20, they will have difficulty keeping up with demand (not that that would be unusual for any EV). Does depend on other players in the cheap EV market in the next 5 years - that would be the risk for tata.

@simon-c2y

Жыл бұрын

And surely this is the death of ICE right here.

But please get the aerodynamic better, the aptera use about 1/3 off a tesla model 3 pr/km.

@electricviking, BYD's Air EV went on sale recently in India badged as the MG Comet EV. But there are the following reasons why I personally would choose the Tiago over the Comet: 1. Not so fit people, elders especially, can easily use the backseat, since it's a 5-door. 2. 3 people can fit into the backseat (with a squeeze). The Comet can fit only 2. 3. Enough bootspace for a run to the grocery store, for lighter airport runs, or a weekend trip. 4. Tiago has better range and supports fast charging (Comet doesn't), so can drive farther and with shorter breaks. 5. The Tiago has a 5-star Global NCAP safety rating, whereas I haven't heard of the Comet being tested yet. 6. Tata has a more widespread service network in India. 7. The Tiago "should" fetch a better resale value, than the Comet. Couple of things I personally find better in the Comet are: the quality of interiors, slightly better exterior styling, and ability to park in tighter spots.

They have only booking for 20k cars. Deliveries begin in January

This is the car for the world. We all ,don't need or can afford a Tesla's.

@volvo24091

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. The world does not needs Teslas.

if TATA is in the game, then Tata wins the value race cos they know how to make them small value cars. Tesla should focus a bit more on its sub $@25k car asap. Why is Australia not in the game of making EVs? They making batteries at least.

Budget compact EVs without so many bells & whistles seriously needed for Australia.

I would love to see one of these in the US

Enjoying the content Sam. Thanks!

@electricviking

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mate!

@andrewvasta9511

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you. Plug in hybrids are finished.

Looks very good

Tata is known to make safe with user friendly softwear interface cars.

All ev's are nice new, how safe are they and how long will they last?

will it be better than the bz4x?

@georgikolev8700

Жыл бұрын

Anything is better than bz4x

@theproffessional9

Жыл бұрын

I mean considering the fact that it has a little less range but it's a ⅓ of the price yeah

These smaller electric cars can be very practical secondary vehicle.

Local Indian likely buy local brands more

Sir, Tiago electric it's not cheap car but it's affordable car ...

They are right hand drive great

This can be a good option for city commute. Indians buy this a secondary vehicle right now (until Tata is building its large charging network)

Who is making the batteries for them?

The Wuling was exciting to me when it was under 10 grand but it looks like it will be more than double that in Indonesia, yeh they increased the range but the value to compromise equation is ruined. It is a tiny plastic car so they can't expect to get the same money as a bigger regular gas car for them if they want to see mass adoption. A 10,000 Ev should be possible given how much simpler they are to produce.

Not only TATA, but Mahindra also launching it's EV series, the BE (Born Electric).

Yes I would.

Wuling looks real 'drac;, Tiago not so bad though.

Many people are not aware that Tata also owns one the biggest tech companies in the world TCS which will make it much easy for them to integrate software into their EV platform

I miss the Froggie on your wall!!!!!

Yes I would buy one and 3 off my kids would like one as well

I hope they learned from the diesel truck they tried to bring into the states in the late 90's. It couldn't pass homulagation, most of the Indian car markets are horrible in crashes and need extensive modification to even get 1 star safety. I want these to come to the U.S but that is a hard market to break into.

MG air wuling may not succeed in India as it looks like a box car, to me such cars are least accepted in India.

@james_l4337

Жыл бұрын

But 3 wheelers are easily accepted for decades they are even smaller

@james_l4337

Жыл бұрын

Granted locals Indian certainly will choose & prefer local brands. Local brands usually do much better given if technology is similar in all EVs So Tata is likely be the number one EV brand & seller in India for certain

Fisker is going into India too.

It looks like Tata is testing the Nexon EV in Australia at the moment. :) Would not be as cheap as hoped though...

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

with taxes it would be $22000+

@Shubham_Bahirat

10 ай бұрын

​@@davelawson2564but that's good looking car

It sounds like the production facilities are woefully under catered, however.

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

They have to ramp up with new factories . Just the 20000 demand they plan to start deliveries from Jan next year. They were selling 2500+ of their Nexon $17000 model. $10000 is price point 30% of indian car buyers can buy

Wuling Air might struggle on the global market as it’s classed as a quadricycle and won’t pass any NCAP safety standards.

Yes a $14000 car is very welcome in US

I am driving the tiago ev xt LR it's giving me a range of 250+km in a single charge quite satisfied with product at this price point although it's a make shift electric car I am totally amazed with the refinement and pretty confident that upcoming Tata ev's would be among the very best at global level.

The government in Indonesia are planning to give Rp80.000.000,- as incentive for electric car made locally early next year.

I would argue Tata’s first EV is the Jaguar I-Pace

U.S needs a $20'000 EV car, build the best/largest car that money can buy. As car insurance in USA for someone under 25yo can be $400/month, a $10K ($200/month) car is unproportionally so $20K it is.

I'd buy one of these (Toronto)

Thanks sir

@electricviking

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

For sure ! Tata needs to market these in the US, why do you think the VW bus and bug were so big ? Cheapest new car the youth could afford ! Tata needs to make a Van too !

does anyone know that this car is name on football player tiago messi

Probably a good brand for Indian but not sure outside if there...

yes we want them in Sweden and EU

TATA made a very smart decision by leveraging the same battery pack supplier as the SGMW/WuLing Mini EV. 🤓

yes

in poorer countries even bikes can be a revolution to take goods to market instead of walking. also to transport food and water. saves time and effort.

Since I own lots of Tesla and BYD stocks I hope they both build an affordable EV not everyone can afford an expensive car.

I would be interested in one, once I can see the reliability is ok

@kuralovien5524

Жыл бұрын

Most tata products turns out to be pretty reliable that's how they're staying in business for more than 150 years , the safety standards may not be as good as German car brands but tata products are usually more reliable than Japanese cars like toyata but for much cheaper price.

@Gopinathk17

Жыл бұрын

TATA is well renowned for its quality and reliability. It's all because of one man called "RATAN TATA".

It's all because of one man called "RATAN TATA". One of the most respected persons of India. We just love him, such a wonderful person. A man who is highly intelligent, hardworking, most disciplined and more than anything a great great human being. Hats-off to him!!

@-whackd

Жыл бұрын

The car hasn't even been produced yet. The video doesnt even say who makes the battery or what chemistry it is. Nothing has been accomplished except an announcement.

@Gopinathk17

Жыл бұрын

@@-whackd did I talk anything about car here? It's not a big deal producing these EVs for Tata, they already produced millions of other cars for decades. I'm just talking about a man behind the organization, know about all his achievements, you would wonder too.

@Darsh0019

Жыл бұрын

@@-whackd while the Tiago doesn't exist, it's older sibling does and is actually quite a good car. Tiago is just a hatchback version of Nexon

Evs are so freaking expensive. I look forward for these models in Canada

It’s a no brainer. Lots of young people want to go green but they can’t afford v current models in Australia. Imagine a $15AUD ($10KUSD) which also qualifies for a $3K Gov EV grant. Young drivers will buy in droves.

I would buy one in cash right now if there were available in Canada.

@YashSharma-rx3ff

Жыл бұрын

Are you French Canadian?

How about a Mini Ute? hey!

We need a small EV for driving around town. Will keep diesel 4x4 for towing.

Tata cars have 4 - 5 star crash test safety ratings! Not sure about other GM-SAIC cars

Nexon is 5star rated in EU NCAP & other two are 4star. About SAIC & BYD nah i dont think general indian will buy it because you know our border clashes only the car geeks will buy BYD, i like the design of BYD HAN but i would also prefer indigenous product. Even though MG started their market in past here still they are able to beat many foreign brands. *Bdw Checkout the upcoming EV from MAHINDRA/BE (Born Electric - co brand of Mahindra) designs are terrific and they said the production model will look 90% similar*

I would buy one if it cost the same price range as ice vehicles please bring them to the Philippines

Where they going to charge them

@PhxElecAuto

Жыл бұрын

They have lots of electricity in India.

@hughvines4585

Жыл бұрын

@@PhxElecAuto no they don’t have charging infrastructure

@hughvines4585

Жыл бұрын

@Lashiv b what about the majority of the population that don’t have a home

@0arjun077

Жыл бұрын

@@hughvines4585 people who dont have home buy ev? For what?

@james_l4337

Жыл бұрын

They can slow charge they via home power point plug. Majority people don't travel long distance only for local area

250km of range with 19.2Kw battery? Thats an average consumption of about 7kw / 100km. I don't think that is possible yet unless you have some serious limitations in power and speed. I will wait to see independent reviews and tests. People say they want these cars in they're countries but they don't buy them. Look at Dacia Spring. Not selling all that much. And don't forget the import taxes that raise the price.

Yes, I'd consider buying one, if it were not for the crippled export duties imposed by the Indian government.

3:35 Yeah, sure there's more people in India, Mr.Electric Viking, but if they all decide to become motorists, albeit electric powertrain .... does that work for a sustainable future??? Does it even work for urban transport???

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

They have 200 million vehicles , good news 80% are 2 wheelers (less polluting , more fuel efficient) converting them to EV will take another 20+ years or longer

@Sunshine-jk9xd

Жыл бұрын

​@@davelawson2564India have already ev scooters like OLA , ather energy just look at those slik scooters and bikes like ultraviolet and revolt Ev

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

@@Sunshine-jk9xd what % are EV's ?

Of course. if there were under $20kusd minis that were good they would sell.

Africa is a market that India knows.

It would be great if the range was over 400kms, if it could fast charge in 15mins and was around $15K USD. The reality is that it is not there, still it may suit others, but for me it is a big no.

Have you reached out to Tata to ask if they plan to bring their EVs to the Australian Fully Charged event?

@davelawson2564

Жыл бұрын

they'll meet the indian demand first before looking overseas . not likely for next 12 months

@Volv0x.

Жыл бұрын

TATA & Mahindra have so much orders here in India. Tata Nexon is one of the best with 5⭐ build & Mahindra XUV 700 that's also 5⭐ have waiting period of over 1.2 yrs that's the demand here😅.

@Sunshine-jk9xd

Жыл бұрын

Tata recently building a giga factory in UK worth 4 billion $ + so yeah soon all over world u will see tata cars ( slight change Gonna be there which is there logo which recently got new look ) haha and India also a year ago found confirmed 5 th largest reserves of lithium

All manufacturers should slowly shift to India. India has a stable economy but also has a soft corner for struggling economies.

ebikes and etrikes will be many.

You missed the Altroz EV by TATA Motors

@PRASANTHVP

Жыл бұрын

Altroz EV doesn't exist until now. Maybe in the future. Tata Punch has a better chance to be the next EV from them.

@crypton7572

Жыл бұрын

Altroz ev has a ground clearance issue

I Will !!!!!

250km for 19 kwh is ridiculous. my MG barely does that with 42kwh.