Index Vs Thumb Release BATTLE!

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James and Matt head to the Bow N Arrow Shop in Lakeside, California which is located in San Diego County to get tune ups on their Bowtech SR350 & Reign 7 compound bows and to hear from Bruce the pros and cons of both an index finger release and a thumb release. Matt has been shooting the carter index finger release and tries out both a carter and stan onnix thumb release. He ends up leaving with the Stan Onnix! Drop a super like below and hit our website to cop some fresh Bow Disciples merch with free domestic shipping!
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  • @ApexPredatorOutdoors
    @ApexPredatorOutdoors2 жыл бұрын

    There are so many ways to shoot each of these releases, some better than others. What really matters in the end is repeatable consistency! Great video.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! Thanks for watching brother

  • @cheshirebowman4465
    @cheshirebowman44652 жыл бұрын

    Probably the best teacher I have ever seen. Excellent.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah man he is awesome 👌

  • @dougbarker4760
    @dougbarker47602 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Very informative instruction for a first time thumb shooter. I wish I would have had that kind of teacher when I started.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is amazing!

  • @Ranger_k16
    @Ranger_k162 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate the video. This is something I've often thought about as well since I also shoot an index.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you found value in it!

  • @mayhem035
    @mayhem035 Жыл бұрын

    Man that guy! Knowledge right in your face! He's amazing..👌👍👊

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Bingo

  • @JS-ji5bl
    @JS-ji5bl2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video guys good info there... 👍🏻✌🏻

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man

  • @adambates4913
    @adambates49132 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, very helpful 👍🏻

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @scatteral
    @scatteral9 ай бұрын

    Listen to this guy, he's a great instructor. He guy me shooting bullseye all day.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    9 ай бұрын

    Yessir!

  • @damianhartigan4
    @damianhartigan42 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I too have been working between index and thumb. I had bought cheap thumb release that would fire on draw due to faults. Definately go for best qauality. Even if they cost more

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good tip, thanks!

  • @caninphx

    @caninphx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have two perfexs that have both been sent back for repair same issue, won't fire under load. startletting down and boom of it goes. one has 100arroes thru it an shave been sent back twice, the other I had a solid year out of it.

  • @timbow50
    @timbow502 жыл бұрын

    Going to a thumb is probably the best thing he’s done. Tiggers are just as accurate if you can and have learned to NOT PUNCH. I used a trigger for nearly 20 years then went to a thumb. Currently using the latest version of the Carter Wise Choice (has no travel adjustment just trigger tension). A good video for those people wanting a quality thumb. Guess I will be ordering me a Stan Onnex too!! lol

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tim!

  • @Glenfilthie1
    @Glenfilthie1 Жыл бұрын

    Good work, fellas. I’m making the change to a thumb release and stuff like this really helps…

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, glad you found value in it!

  • @Glenfilthie1

    @Glenfilthie1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples Sorry to be a pain, guys… but that strap your instructor uses… do you have anymore info on that? Like where to buy it…?

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Glenfilthie1 bowdisciples.com Native archery straps!

  • @archeraction6012
    @archeraction601211 ай бұрын

    A quality thumb lesson. I'm going to try that inner thumb crease.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    11 ай бұрын

    Let me know how it goes

  • @1959TheBear
    @1959TheBear2 жыл бұрын

    Props! Going to Stan one day, and thumb release is my goal. I found the Tru ball is a good index. Execution release, I can use my second finger as a safety and rest index on top of trigger and not have to bring my index around the trigger. I do have to focus on the middle finger as a safety. It is smoother and better adjusted than both my Carters, quickie and Like Mike 11. Thanks for you great vids. getting proud of my correct draw thanks to you guys.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother! Glad you're liking your new draw

  • @inkandbarrel
    @inkandbarrel Жыл бұрын

    It's been a while since this, but they have figured out how to add a lanyard and a wrist strap to the Stans Onnex Thumb. The team @Bow N Arrow Shop set mine up with a Native Archery release strap. I wish I had seen this episode before I started looking for my first thumb release.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Those are great straps!

  • @joeyphillips3363
    @joeyphillips33632 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video thanks

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @wcwcgarner2717
    @wcwcgarner27172 жыл бұрын

    I shoot the stan shootoff TL thumb button release 3 finger. . Great release. Nice review

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome choice! Thanks man

  • @joelvaldez1987
    @joelvaldez19874 ай бұрын

    I shot a handheld for a while. Both hinge and a thumb. Recently hurt my shoulder and the index alleviates the pain. with the principles I learned shooting a handheld I applied to Shooting an index for a surprise release and found I have a much more consistent anchor with the index vs the handhelds. I think with any release as long as you can be consistent it doesn’t matter what you use.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @noahcarter9451
    @noahcarter94512 жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man

  • @gibsonlife573
    @gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын

    For one you can't have a release set with a hair trigger and expect them to load up on the wall I wouldn't thank them for 2 Look like to me he was punching both of them and liked me had anticipation

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @chengsterboi07
    @chengsterboi072 жыл бұрын

    Great switch. I would have set the thumb bar to fit the shooter first before he fired it. The stan is great though. Usually set it colder for first timer so they can pull through the shoot.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @oneredstarproduction
    @oneredstarproduction2 жыл бұрын

    Goin by tomorrow to get my first bow after watching the budget reviews. Gonna put a deer up on that trophy wall

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Tell them you watch the videos 👍

  • @quantumeraser4833
    @quantumeraser48332 жыл бұрын

    Now that had some 'Cow Bell' !! John ps. Get Bruce OUT OF THE SHOP and on the Range !!!

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John! It was fun

  • @user-ct4im4nd6r
    @user-ct4im4nd6r8 ай бұрын

    This is good information I’m considering a thumb release but I’m so used to a trigger cause I almost relate it to a rifle When I shoot bench with a rifle I check my process and squeeze the trigger That’s ingrained in my brain When I’m hunting the trigger process I’m used to is instinctive Almost automatic I don’t even hear the shot It’s just a little bit different than target shooting When I shoot my bow I concentrate on form consistentcy but I don’t necessarily feel back pressure like try to pull the bow apart like you have to do a hinge release I feel the full back wall concentrate on the anchor point and aim and my trigger finger knows when the shot is good That’s not necessarily the correct form that’s just my natural process and it works By the way if I’m not punching one big hole at the rifle range at 100 yards I’m not happy

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the thorough comment!

  • @noelsommers2480
    @noelsommers248011 ай бұрын

    Not sure who the pro shop guy is, but he seem very knowledgeable. Props to him.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    11 ай бұрын

    He's the man

  • @terrydewayne7690
    @terrydewayne76902 жыл бұрын

    Rofl....80/20 here.....maybe 85/15.... Found it refreshing he admitted that best bit ive seen all year..! Im coming out to then ! 😜 i think my goal is to keep the command part smal enough no one can tell !

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bingo! I love that part too

  • @termite122
    @termite122 Жыл бұрын

    i once heard that many many moons ago people actually used there own fingers to pull the string..can you imagine that

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Nooo wayyyyy 🤯🤣

  • @slingshotwarrrior8105
    @slingshotwarrrior81052 жыл бұрын

    Informative video bro! I shoot compound but I also shoot crossbow! Speaking of crossbows, I have a crossbow target shooting video, where I shoot my Cold Steel Cheap Shot at my homemade archery target.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds awesome!

  • @slingshotwarrrior8105

    @slingshotwarrrior8105

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples Thanks, bro, I practice in the backwoods.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @slingshotwarrrior8105

    @slingshotwarrrior8105

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples 👍

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @gibsonlife573
    @gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын

    It's gonna ever but you're never gonna get repeatability when you're football putting that Release there's so much movement in your hand right in your hand by dropping your finger into the release that you'll never get a repeatability I know a lot of people say Kyle Douglas and Tim Gillingham shoot a command style release but they put their finger on the release when the pin gets air they push it they don't slap it

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment

  • @drewolm
    @drewolm8 ай бұрын

    Real good video. Lots of pointers. How did the shop owner have that strap attached to the Stan release? Edit. I did a search in this thing called the internet and low and behold…I found all I needed to know about this.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    8 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @bowman.sweden3899
    @bowman.sweden38992 жыл бұрын

    I switched from index to hinge. Best decision for me 👍 I tried a thumb but it didn't work for me, I just felt wrong.

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's great! Glad you found something that works for you brother

  • @bowman.sweden3899

    @bowman.sweden3899

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples keep up your good work 🎯🎯💥

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man, we will!

  • @kushboy87
    @kushboy872 жыл бұрын

    Where can I order the native strap for my thumb release?

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    They'll be on bowdisciples.com soon!

  • @kushboy87

    @kushboy87

    2 жыл бұрын

    You da man🍻

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @gibsonlife573
    @gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын

    I have never ever heard Levi Morgan say anything about that is how he shoots his shot that he commands his shot he says when he feels the target panic demon's crawling on his legs he throws the dumb button in his pouch and brings out his hinge I've never heard him once say anything about punch it if anything I've hurting talk about target panic

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it

  • @kevinmason3086
    @kevinmason30862 жыл бұрын

    This might help me group my arrow better. I shoot a true-fire release

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let me know how it goes for you!

  • @kevinmason3086

    @kevinmason3086

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples I haven't shot my compound since last year had some shoulder problems. Been working out some with a Bowflex that I bought cheep lol!

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!

  • @elncalls
    @elncalls2 жыл бұрын

    Where can I get one of those Native wrist straps for my Perfex?

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    I should have them available on bowdisciples.com soon! I'll keep yall updated

  • @drewnewberry4414

    @drewnewberry4414

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BowDisciples please keep us updated. Super interested in that

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will do!

  • @caninphx

    @caninphx

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh I like, any idea where we can find more info on this strap? I've been using a boa strap from truglow and absolutely hate it as the release flops around and it's a pain to tuck it this is brilliant. when they are available, I'll be picking up one or two as these look like a lot better system then modifying standard wrist straps or using cordage,

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caninphx I'll have info and have them for sale on bowdisciples.com soon!

  • @aseeland1646
    @aseeland16462 жыл бұрын

    Waooo great jop

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @reddawng43x91
    @reddawng43x91 Жыл бұрын

    His draw length is too long! He has to find his kisser every draw lol! Wth! Fix that for the man lol

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @Stykbow
    @Stykbow Жыл бұрын

    im always wearing make up and sunscreen when im shooting my bow lol wtf

  • @BowDisciples

    @BowDisciples

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice

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