" Even a man like P.D. Ouspensky, who lived with Gurdjieff for years, could not hear the whole teaching as it was. When he wrote his famous book IN SEARCH OF THE MIRACULOUS and he showed it to George Gurdjieff, his Master, he said, “It is beautiful, but it needs a subtitle: FRAGMENTS OF AN UNKNOWN TEACHING.” Ouspensky said, “But why? - why fragments?” He said, “Because these are only fragments. What I have told you you have not heard in its totality. And whatsoever you have written is beautiful….” Ouspensky was really one of the most skillful writers the world has ever known, very artistic, very logical, a superb artist with words. So he said, “You have written well, you have written beautifully, but these are only fragments - and the fragments cannot reveal the truth. On the contrary, they conceal it. So call it: FRAGMENTS OF AN UNKNOWN TEACHING. The teaching still remains unknown. You just had a few glimpses here and there, and you have put all those glimpses together, you have somehow made a whole out of them, but it is not the truth, it is not the real teaching.” Ouspensky understood it. Hence the book still carries the subtitle: FRAGMENTS OF AN UNKNOWN TEACHING. What to say about ordinary people? Ouspensky cannot be called an ordinary person; extraordinarily intelligent he was. If fact, it was because of him that Gurdjieff became famous in the world; otherwise nobody may have heard about him. One of the great disciples of Gurdjieff, P. D. Ouspensky, was dying. The doctors told him to rest but he would not - instead he continued walking the whole night. They thought he had gone crazy. He was dying, his energy was disappearing - what was he doing? This was the time to rest; he would die sooner if he went on walking. But he would not stop. Somebody asked, ‘What are you doing?’ He said, ‘I would like to die alert, awake. I don’t want to die asleep - otherwise I will miss the beauty of death.’ And he died walking."

@robertcarter8600

Жыл бұрын

Your interpretation seems very sketchy, actually. Because Ph. D. Uspensky TRIED to get into Gurdjiev"s past, yet was GIVEN just fragments. Because he RECORDED ALL he heard from Gurdjiev, yet it was in PURE PROVERBIAL Oriental form far BELOW Western rationalization.

@raquelwebb13

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this extra information even if it carries your own interpretation.

@willieluncheonette5843

Жыл бұрын

@@raquelwebb13 Thank you. Those are not my words. They are from talks by Osho.

@davepowell7168

Жыл бұрын

Fear of death

@bodhiheeren

Жыл бұрын

@@robertcarter8600 As luncheonette should have made clear in his post this is quotes from Osho. But I would certainly call it beyond not below Western rationalization.

Have been studying this book and the 4th way since the early 70's. Its influence in my life has been an eye opening experience. It is surprising that their is so little interest in these matters. Thanks for keeping it alive.

@vhawk1951kl

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you suppose that your eyes were hitherto shut? What exactly are " these matters"?

@hayy313

2 жыл бұрын

True . Little interest now

@parekhparthesh950

2 жыл бұрын

@@profile_01 have you read this book that you have mentioned??

@parekhparthesh950

2 жыл бұрын

@@profile_01 send me a copy of the book first I will read it then will discuss.

@abirmajumder9200

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain your eye opening experience??

A lot of the book was interesting and mind expanding, to a 21 year old back in 1975 but it was the practice of "remember yourself", found in this book, that makes it the most valuable single book I have ever read. I still practice, 47 years later.

@chevrelait

Жыл бұрын

'mindfulness practice' today... Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was asked about this... he preferred 'spontaneous right action' which occurs after regular experience of the Source of Pure Consciousness... Being

@jthepickle7

Жыл бұрын

@@chevrelait "Buy and sell yet never forget God" - Bible. “forget the past, for it is gone from your domain! forget the future, for it is beyond your reach! control the present! Live supremely well now! This is the way of the wise...” - Paramahansa Yogananda "Be Here Now" - Ram Dass "Be in the now" - Ekhart Tolle "Remember yourself" - Gurjieff Over and again we find the same exercise, given throughout the Ages. This is not a secret doctrine! However, I think it must be found in youth, while the mind is pliable. At 16 Maharshi asked himself, "Who am I?" For him, that was all it took. lol

@lindaj5492

Жыл бұрын

“Here and now!” - the mynah birds on Huxley’s Island.

@is-ness

8 ай бұрын

Why pursue something for 47 years. Why not try another path. Old age the final enemy of the seeker

This is amazing to see! Goodness, it slipped by the radar all these years. Love it. Ouspensky's genius is so open, in an age of the brittle modern eruptions at their worst ever. 😎

@vhawk1951kl

Жыл бұрын

To quote Ouspensky himself in fragments or in such miraculous, Mr Gurdjieff said very clearly: "there are no geniuses, there are only sleeping machines . The word "genius" is a much overused word, which cannot be used of a particular person but only in reference to whatever influenced him. As a general rule contemporary men seem to use genius to indicate little more than "a-jolly-clever-chap, and-much-more-clever-than me. That is not what genius means.

50 years ago, I would have bent over backwards to see this. I finally see G. for what it is.

@bernhardnizynski4403

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@E-Kat

Жыл бұрын

@@bernhardnizynski4403 it was difficult to find this program. 🙂

@majkica11

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean

That was amazing, I never knew about this film. I studied the works of Gurdjeiff when I was a boy and read avidly the works of PD Ouspensky. These teachings of course led to self discipline self discovery and went on to find other greater thinkers and teachers. What amazing thinkers, in some way we all found the miraculous just in the act of searching for it. Thank you

@markmusic5303

Жыл бұрын

Who is a greater thinker then Ouspensky?

@NoLefTurnUnStoned.

2 ай бұрын

Thinking is overrated.

The comments to this video are as interesting as the work itself.

@jthepickle7

Жыл бұрын

From Ram Dass, to Yogananda, Castaneda, all the way to Tolle' , I read them all but it was I.S.O.T.M. that positively changed my life.

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

Thats exactly why I read the comments - to communicate with "my" mates Aren´t we all sooooo t h i r s t y for that - after almost 100 years of stupid passive TV-consuming ?

Wow! so many statements that are absolutely where we are now....particularly the final one. Now we take it to the next level; nothing is static. Consciousness evolves. Thank you for posting this.

Beautiful cinema and Gurdjieff's information given in 'that time' is so far ahead on issues that are now highly actual in all ways! Thank you!

I very appreciate for helping to expand such a treasury of esoteric knowledge. Thank you so much.

This was a lovely video, thank you!

Ouspenski was a popularizer of Gurdjieff and his work, but was not himself Gurdjieffian. Thus their split. He never understood Gurdjieff's use of the unexpected to produce conscious shocks in his students. He failed to fully attain man #4. We are here to transform our caterpillar psyche into a Butterfly Soul, by integrating our Heart, Mind and Will. When the Heart aspires, the Mind inquires and the Will conspires (combines). The insight that inspires also empowers. Self-observation = neutral observation of negative reactive self or patterns or I's. Self-remembering = being aware of being aware. Objective Consciousness = Awake = being aware of being aware - of the all-inclusive, interrelated omnipresence of the Absolute unity of Creative Intelligence underlying and permeating all relative diversity, the All in One in All. Since to seek Wisdom is the wisest thing that one can do, Wisdom is the principle thing. Therefore, get Wisdom and with all thy getting, get Understanding. As the eye is a lamp unto the body, so is perspective to the Mind. Therefore, if your (third) eye (perspective)of Life be single (all-inclusive, interrelated), then your whole Being will be full of Life, and the Light of Wisdom and Understanding. Reality = That which is/That I am. Knowledge = What is known of Reality. Understanding = knowing how to apply what is known well enough to learn and grow. Wisdom = Competence in application of Understanding. To one that has shall more be given..... Who I am (social self), changes with time, place and circumstance. What I am (essential self), changes with embodiment. Only That I am (core self), remains eternally constant, and is that from which who and what I am arise and that to which they return. Existentially, our only real choice is between unconscious compulsive reaction and conscious creative response. Namaste'.

@prof.manjeetsinghjcboseust9034

2 жыл бұрын

Very good summarization of Gurdjieff's work

@LL-qe8md

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply well thought out

@douglasdittfurth2769

2 жыл бұрын

Beautifully written

@eryksway

2 жыл бұрын

This is the way.

@zachbos5108

2 жыл бұрын

These concepts are illusions. Thought has no access to what is real. It can't even describe a simple sound or smell, yet it effortlessly conjures up a "Heart" or a "Mind"? There is no way to that which has no beginning.

Excelent ,,thank you

Between the ' drama ' is some wonderful archival film.✌️.

Insights are first earned and then learned.

thank you

Hello, The narration is interrupted between 5:08- 6:38. Can it be recovered and reposted? Thank You!

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Why not read the book for yourself?

The quality of our dreams is both a reflection of our thoughts and actions as well as a general foreshadowing of the fate of our souls in the next life...A nightly, temporary karma that beckons us to change - for the good - so as to avoid a more permanent karma... Beauty(🌷)+Complexity(🌎) =Intent(❤️) The Figure 8 Analogy: An analogy on life, death, the dream-state and the symbolism intertwined within the human experience. We human beings are not traveling in the abstract motion of a straight line towards death (for instance, the numerical straight line of say 1-89). Instead, we are moving in the motion of a figure 8. The Figure 8 is a natural repeating pattern that is divided into two halves and is thus the perfect symbol to represent the human life cycle and our two primary states of existence that we are continuously moving in and out of -the Awake State and the Dream-State. When we awake from sleep we come full circle to when we fall back asleep (represented by the bottom half of the figure 8 )and when we go into the dream state we come full circle to when we awake from the dream state (represented by the top half of the figure 8 ). Upon death; the figure 8 of life untwines, but it’s not the body untwining from the mind that this analogy represents. It's two states of mind untwining to form a larger state of mind. (8-0) Because the awake state is really a state -of mind, with our body's physical reality "consciously" intertwined; and the dream-state is also a state of mind, with our body's physical reality "subconsciously" intertwined. Therefore; upon death, these two states of mind untwine to form a “larger” state of mind. A state that has all the potentialities of the dream world (flying, telepathy, psychokinesis, etc) combined with all the actualities of the awake world(nature, form, bonds, etc). This I refer to as the transitional analogy. While conceiving The Figure 8 Analogy, I realized life and death must be perceived -from one point of view- as seperate entities(the transitional analogy(8-0), but must also be perceived -from another point of view- as inseparable entities(the symbolic analogy👇), both of which are ultimately linked by the dream-state. The symbolic analogy consists of the untwined figure 8 of life/the 'circle of death’, if you will, which -abstractly- overlapps the ‘circle of life’/the Earth, with the overlappment representing the dream-state, like the common area in a venn diagram, and implies that the dream state is just as much a part of life as is of death ~by which semi-explains precognitive dreams, prodromal dreams, "visitations" by deceased relatives, etc; for the dream-state has a foothold in the afterlife, and is based on the premise that “while our body sleeps, our dream state symbolically represents the state that awaits upon our body's ultimate rest.” In other words, while we are lying down and sleeping/dreaming, this natural process symbolizes where we go when we're ultimately lying down/dead -to a place "like" our dream-state...A state "of mind” with our body's physical form+bonds eternally engrained and intertwined. ✋🏿👁~8~👁🤚🏻

@Jade_holloway

Жыл бұрын

This is completely fascinating. What a great analogy. Thank you

The first book of his that I read was " A New Model of The Universe" . I was young and cooking BBQ at a BBQ restaurant and one of my Managers reccomended it to me. It really blew me Away... What an Excellent Book. I wonder where I could get another copy of it?!

Having studied Gurdjieff when I was younger, I can say his ideas still have a profound affect on me.

@aidiniantz436

9 ай бұрын

The film Gurdjieff in Armenia covers his teaching and contains his original movements from the 1920's and music: www.youtube.com/watch/TvaVl3Cv-lo

@LightlyEarthy

6 ай бұрын

@@aidiniantz436 link doesn't work

Thank You for this. I Subscribed.

This is amazing

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

Welcome in your BRANDNEW KINGDOM/REICH !

This takes me years ago......

Pacts depend on the individual and there are many examples of this chronicled in various scriptures values with prophets

Many people are unaware of the deep influence that G.G. had on Kate Bush during her upbringing. But if you consider her achievements in music , dance movement, and philosophy towards life and the world it becomes revealing.

@CONNELL19511216

Жыл бұрын

Lyrics in her very first album hint at this.

@pikiwiki

Жыл бұрын

had no idea

@arielgastelum4527

Жыл бұрын

She was exposed to G's Teachings through her brother.

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

HA ! As if I knew it already ! That´s the reason why I always loved Kate VERY much !!!

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

Kate Bush: "the man with the child in his eyes." What a GREAT mystic revelation !!

“ remember yourself” had a great book about the work. Studying while the bombs dropped on England WW2

Fantastic I wish there was more of this film. Bravo really inspirational 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️⭐🙏🏻

@vhawk1951kl

2 жыл бұрын

It is no more than the book wrapped in pretty packaging; the pictures add nothing to the words.

@AL_THOMAS_777

9 ай бұрын

🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍

There is no hidden knowledge - it is all an open secret 🕉️

@thenowchurch6419

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I am thinking, within and without are many miracles, why go in search of the miraculous?

@xanbex8324

Жыл бұрын

@@thenowchurch6419 Because "Seek and Ye shall find".......You must be interested and be willing to sacrifice something!

@thenowchurch6419

Жыл бұрын

@@xanbex8324 You misunderstand. Seek and ye shall find means seek from the Spirit within not by traveling the world seeking gurus.

@martinwilliams9866

Жыл бұрын

@@thenowchurch6419 It can mean both those things!

@thenowchurch6419

Жыл бұрын

@@martinwilliams9866 True, but in this Kali Yuga it is safer to inquire within.

I was cleaning exercising meditating kundalini all day and was in perfect mood for this when I finally sat down around 9pm and I definitely am impacted

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

of Kundalini Giorgivanitch said this: " "In so-called 'occult' literature you have probably met with the expression 'Kundalini,' 'the fire of Kundalini,' or the 'serpent of Kundalini.' This expression is often used to designate some kind of strange force which is present in man and which can be awakened. But none of the known theories gives the right explanation of the force of Kundalini. Sometimes it is connected with sex, with sex energy, that is with the idea of the possibility of using sex energy for other purposes. This latter is entirely wrong because Kundalini can be in anything. And above all, Kundalini is not anything desirable or useful for man's development. It is very curious how these occultists have got hold of the word from somewhere but have completely altered its meaning and from a very dangerous and terrible thing have made something to be hoped for and to be awaited as some blessing. "In reality Kundalini is the power of imagination, the power of fantasy, which takes the place of a real function. When a man dreams instead of acting, when his dreams take the place of reality, when a man imagines himself to be an eagle, a lion, or a magician, it is the force of Kundalini acting in him. Kundalini can act in all centres and with its help all the centres can be satisfied with the imaginary instead of the real. A sheep which considers itself a lion or a magician lives under the power of Kundalini. "Kundalini is a force put into men in order to keep them in their present state. If men could really see their true position and could understand all the horror of it, they would be unable to remain where they are even for one second. They would begin to seek a way out and they would quickly find it, because there is a way out; but men fail to see it simply because they are hypnotized. *Kundalini is the force that keeps them in a hypnotic state. *'To awaken' for man means to be 'dehypnotized.' In this lies the chief difficulty and in this also lies the guarantee of its possibility, for there is no organic reason for sleep and man can awaken" There is more than enough to keep me dreaming and as asleep without any kundalini monkey business to ad to it.

Snuff the candle Frankincense Take off The flowing gown Close the book Don't start the prayer Let the telling cards face down Here Is where you are Now Is when you can Cut the fast And sacrifice Leave the crucifix alone Stop the dance And wailing chant Put down The mystic stone All that you behold Is magic in disguise Miracles Are everywhere In every - thing And in your eyes

Nice Job, Србија !

Thanx

Krishnamurti who visited him and warned against him saw the dangers inherent in too much conscious self-knowledge and the dangers inherent in becoming and egotistical self seeking.

Guys, i am enjoying the comments written by you all, as per osho, gurdjieff was a tantrik( there is no exact translation for this word in english). For those who want to criticize G, there is a quote for saints in India. The quote is “one who knows himself has no rules”

The reason there is little interest is most people have no idea they are asleep, just doing a few of the exercises where one has be self observant one quickly sees how mechanical we truly are.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Rather obviously nobody knows or can know that they*Are*asleep, only that they *have_been* asleep. There being several millions or possibly billions of beings on this planet and I am interested to learn that you have canvassed more than fifty percent or*most* of them. Did it take you very long to canvass several millions of beings? I only know that I *have_been* dreaming on thus asleep but obviously cannot know that I*am* dreaming or sleep, because if I did, I would not be dreaming or sleep or as dear old Karl Gustav put it " in-a-fog". Anyone claiming to know that he*Is* asleep or dismembered/dreaming(anything that goes on in the explaining mind), can only possibly be either lying or dreaming, or more likely dreaming *About* dreaming; the dreaded and inescapable *About*. Semingly Giorgivanitch said than a man has two possibilities-not more; Eat or be eaten.

The first ting that struck me about Gurdjieff is how observant he was so he could see ahead as a visionairy for what's to come as i often say connecting the dots only then you could see behind the veil of perception the higher truth to give your live a meaning in an ever changing world full of hardship and deceit isn't for the ill hearted. The second thing is of cause the position he was in to do these things are coming from a source how did he earn his money isn't exactly clear so i guess he was cunning to the core.

Indeed! This to this day is not understood

some of the passages being narrated I don't recall reading in my copy of the book... I think I may have purchased an edited copy... where can I find an authentic copy?

Beside some famous authors / painters and musicians I only know about 2 TRUE geniuses of the 20th century: TESLA a n d OSHO !!! Both absolutely underrated - yet their immensely power to come over humanity pretty soon. Osho has been called "spiritual dynamite" and Tesla "electric dynamite"

🙏👌

Great job! Did you put this doc together?

I find that we as humans make pacts between us and God...when we're conscience of self and exorsing free will it's in the realm of what isn't emergency ...such as penitence hanging off a cliff and how much better we will be to save our lives

In Search of the Miraculous talks about the 4 ways of discovering your Self. He said fakirs, yogis, and monks were the most common ways but the 4th way, the way of the Sly Man was through ingesting substances. I believe that psychedelics were what he was referring to.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Nowhere in Fragments does G say that the way of the Sly Man was through ingesting substances.

Why does it go silent around 5:06 ?

@sooparticular

Жыл бұрын

ahhhh to you.....to you.......it was silent.....

Prijatno iznenađenje. Dubravko kao Uspenski.

Various experiments and "conditions"

Wonderfull movie and beautiful music....what was it actually?

‘In search of the miraculous’ is by far the best ‘overall’ book that I have read in the quest of ‘seeking truths’. It sets out the framework in which one can gain the further understanding which is a precondition to truly appreciate the work of Gurdjieff. I do not think that Ouspensky deeply understood some of the valuable quotations that he gave from the Gurdjieff meetings. Gurdjieff said that he ‘buried the dog’ in his books, so as to make the reader really work hard to gain sufficient understanding. However, some of Gurdjieff’s ‘secrets’ were laid bare by Ouspensky in the book ‘in search of the of the miraculous’. As I say, I do not think that Ouspensky was aware of the importance of some of the information he set out in this book; otherwise, he would have buried it. I thank Ouspensky for writing the book.

@martinwilliams9866

11 ай бұрын

I think "Dog" meant the Cynics, also the "Pack" of the Tarot especially the Fool card.

@NA-WHL

11 ай бұрын

@@martinwilliams9866 There is a direct relationship between the celestial and the behaviour/actions of the thin film of organic life around the Earth. This relationship is the secret (or the ‘dog’) and ones ability to prove this relationship elevates the possibility of truly awakening. Without such proof, one is simply mechanically following what they have read without truly understanding why. Repeating parrot fashion words of wisdom is not wisdom. Knowing this secret also allows the future to be an open book; and the apparent chaotic events on Earth are shown to follow the most perfect order and can be timed to the second decades/centuries ahead

Bsr 🌧️🌱⛈️🌳🌈🌹🙏 🌹

Where is this footage from?

What have you learned from this? Thank you. 🥀

Of course we may be lead astray...but we are at Mercy of God....it's just as well because if we never know our insignificance then we may arrogently assume ourselves as alien divides against a wider dynamic and what created us....and lose out on our higher nature

What are the pieces of music on this documentary? What are their names?

@aseculardharma

2 жыл бұрын

i'm sorry, i really don't know.

@user-er7lw2qm1l

2 жыл бұрын

They might be Gurdjijeff's own musical pieces or of his disciple - the pianist Hartmann.

@markfarrington5183

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, fragments of Thomas de Hartmann's piano pieces are heard here and there. But Liadov's "The Enchanted Lake" is heard at first and throughout. Delius' "Summer Evening" is also featured. Incidentally, Liadov was to have been the composer of The Firebird for Diaghilev, but his slowness exasperated Diaghilev, who then engaged Igor Stravinsky. The rest is history.

Audio cuts off at 5:05.

Often we wonder and in machinations of idoloization....as a form of security....and placement of ego but not always in a perminant state otherwise we become fixated or obsessed

Why does the,audio cut out twice?

There is nothing to teach, nothing to learn, nothing to forget. The content of the entire world can never truly reflect who you are, but I is the reflection of what you sense, experience and perceive. Yet one cannot be what is observed. Therefore, what sees even the act of perception is an illusion. Go inside yourself. The miracle is in there but it cannot be found as an object.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Gosh you know everything Brian, teach us and lead us out of iye darknes oh all-wise all-knowing one

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

Gosh you know eveything Brian, teach us and lead us out of our darkness oh all-wise, all-knowing one. Just as soon as we stop giggling.

Where’s the sound?

"People have neither consciousness nor, worse still, curiosity... But the time will come when you will understand." Let's hope so. Again. 🌈🦉

@AL_THOMAS_777

Жыл бұрын

. . worse: they have only curiosity for the most stupid items . . .

Why is no sound at the beginning what is going on

I have fully understood the teachings of Gurdjieff and I have found the miraculous. There is no need to go to Tibet.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

No-one could possibly*fully*understood the teach of Gorgivanitch, known as the ideas a tiny fraction or only fragments of which can be found in the book known as Fragments because he *Was or lived his teaching and not even those who were with him for long periods over long periods would dare to claim or even contemplate claiming to have fully understood his ideas and no more can you who never met him. If you really want to deepen or expand whatever amount of understanding you may have of the ideas, which could not possibly be*Complete*, you must at the very least read Beelzebub the required minimum of three times and I hazard that you will discover that you cannot read it once. H e called Beelzebub "All and Everything and it may well be that it is, so forget the idea that you understand anything of his teaching which you could not possibly unless you had been in his presence. Moreover the Work or his ideas in practice is an oral tradition which simply cannot be found in any books other than Beelzebub's tales to his grandson or all and everything which is a wonder and a miracle in itself and wonderfully funny.

People seek spiritual experiences rarely the truth...

@edwardshafer1729

2 жыл бұрын

Spiritual experiences are Truth.

@d1427

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardshafer1729 no, they are not- experiences come and go, the truth is eternal. However, seeking the truth is also a spiritual experience when the truth is misunderstood as being a thing, hidden somewhere in the world of information and concepts that has a label on it that says 'this is the truth'. The truth needs no seeking, it is always available to anyone- all we need to do is to identify and remove the false acquire throughout a lifetime exercised habit of relying on hearsay information from others, which we've been accustomed to take for the truth.

@soi-luna3087

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed: Spiritual experiences are states. What is important are stations, states come and go and can be misleading

@umaneelakantan9327

Жыл бұрын

Spiritual experiences lead to Truth ...when not misused for spiritual pleasure ...but when used for furtherance and advancement of your spiritual growth, journey..

@robertcarter8600

Жыл бұрын

@@d1427 Wordy.

Things are much simpler than we perceive, the inner struggle is just a symptom of our insecurities created by unnecessary, complicated, confusing systems, created by people who can't help themselves, and despite the fascination they cause all these experiences are one big meaninglessness , this remains just a good bedtime story, don't go deep into these empty life nonsense, don't look for meaning in empty phraseology, "everything happens quite differently" as Pushkin said...

I think a film with Oscar Isaac as Mr. Gurdjieff, with the right script, would be marvelous.

Who did the footage? wuts this from?

@aseculardharma

2 жыл бұрын

i wish i knew. i found it tucked away in an obscure part of the interwebs. it would be interesting to get more background information on the making of this film, and the footage.

@dadopaukovic4080

2 жыл бұрын

A film directed 1998 by Zivko Nicolic (Yugoslav film director) based on the 1949 book by P.D.Ouspensky. Thoughtfully telescopes Ouspensky's book and glimpses of the teaching he received from Gurdjieff, interspersed with archival footage the Russia Revolution.

@robertcarter8600

Жыл бұрын

Film's director Zivko Nikolic - Wiki - 1941-2001. The film is his last one.

@martinwilliams9866

11 ай бұрын

It's readings from "In Search of the Miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky.

Why does the sound cut out at around 5 minutes? What was said? Did it need to be un-said? Lol

@aseculardharma

Жыл бұрын

youtube 'copyright' censorship. :/

Amazing, truly REAL PLAY, written by some higher intelligences beyond the conceptions of ordinary human consciousness.

could anybody, please, add the credits (films do not fall from trees or YB skies, they are made by so called 'directors").- Thank you

@adaptogenic

Жыл бұрын

All credits are on the screen during the first minute and a half

@a.k.bartleby4295

Жыл бұрын

@@adaptogenic Thank you!

Seeking the miraculous is one thing, what these guys wrote is another. G.I. was constantly experimenting. P.D. was an intellectual, a scientist. When you can just be the thing they both talk about, rather than study...why. I am more cautious.

05:05 to 06:28 no sound.

Knowledge of the Miraculous is not secret nor ever was. It still exists in Japan. It is called Zen Buddhism

Sounds cuts out a little after 5 minute mark.

@martinrea8548

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Only the enlightened can hear that!

Why does the sound cut out at 5:07 ?

@writteninthesky

7 ай бұрын

Weird... even captions deleted... 🤔

No Audio from approx.5:05 - 6:27. Just a heads up.

@aseculardharma

Жыл бұрын

unfortunately that is youtube blocking out some 'copyright' music.

@tommay631

Жыл бұрын

@@aseculardharma aha! Thnx for the reply. : )

Music too loud, cannot hear the narrator.

Every ship in the harbour carry anchor...it's the one in your heart you have conquer...

Film mainly shows trains, with some innuendoes interspersed. I'd like more substance & perhaps another film attempting to explain Ouspensky's diagrams. Music is nice.

What’s up with the speech cut out in the video?????

@aseculardharma

Жыл бұрын

youtube had a copyright claim for a section where classical music was played in the background. of course, this is complete nonsense, as the copyright for this piece of music expired perhaps a 100 years ago. as we do not have the resources or time to fight this, we were forced to mute this section.

@writteninthesky

7 ай бұрын

​@@aseculardharmaif it is only b/c of music, why is the caption and transcript missing? Please pin the text missing.

Very good. But poor 🔉(JBP. MP. Bharat)

……….🌞………

is this really Gurdjeff or just an actor ????

✌🏾👁🤚🏾

32 minutes in. Profound, and I remembered that I have Two frozen King Size Twix candy bars in the freezer...

So, what have we learned of the miraculous in the last 100 years? Please leave a comment.

@vhawk1951kl

9 ай бұрын

"We" being you and which identifiable interlocutor? You are at least half of we so you tell save that you have no experience of the last hundred years.

@LightlyEarthy

6 ай бұрын

Jung's synchronicity is part of it...

When Gurjdief Met Sayyidina ABdullah Al Faiz Dagestani Qs all his queries doubts questions were answered with respect to ennagream and nine points

@mohammedjaneesh5220

2 жыл бұрын

What is the ennagream?

@thetraveller1686

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedjaneesh5220 ennagream is a geometric pattern of nine points

@mohammedjaneesh5220

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetraveller1686 are you a gurudjeffian? Or a sufi? I have lot of doubt's in my mind...

@soi-luna3087

2 жыл бұрын

What a lot of nonsense: Alternative facts created by fanatics

@thetraveller1686

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedjaneesh5220 sufi

Kate Bush's special gifts came from somewhere, some special element or "sauce" that only she could respond to under deeper exploration preferably by an analyst groomed in Jungian psychology. My instinct tells me it was a transcendence of her conscious and unconscious mind inspired in particular by Gurdjief. I would hope that she does make the effort to do so in this life.

He mentions this system would contradict the schools of Egypt, but Gurdjieffs teachings come from the school of magicians in Egypt, right?

@martinwilliams9866

4 ай бұрын

No, his system was syncretic, made up of philosophy, especially Neo-Platonicism, Cynics, Stoicism, Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, German Idealism, French Occult revival, especially Antoine Fabre d'Olivet, Levi, Papus, Hermetism, Kabbalah, Theosophy, the Tarot, a little bit of Sufism & Islamic Philosophy, Christian Theosophy, Mesmerism & Hypnotism, Spiritualism & Psychical research, Vajrayana Buddhism & possibly Kashmir Saivism.

Is this really Gurdjieff and Ouspensky or are they actors? I know it probably sounds like a silly question as it's a documentary.

@Night-Taco

3 ай бұрын

actors

Do we see actors or the true Ouspenski & Gurdjieff?

@aseculardharma

3 ай бұрын

good question. i don;t know. but i think not.

This may be a banal question but how did this guy ouspenski fund himself?He talks about the masses being machines/slaves and he’s right but he clearly had the advantage of an income did he not?

@arielgastelum4527

Жыл бұрын

Rich followers, while Gurdjieff struggled to maintain his institute in function. He lived in an apartment .....I was thinking about that 2 days ago...I read Gurdjieff was discriminated while staying in a hotel with his followers. Still racism instill in planetary bodies prevail.

@notshirley32

11 ай бұрын

Ouspensky was accelerated philosopher and publisher of books long before he met gurdjieff. Gurdjieff too was very wealthy ..owned several factories ..he was a real inventor...lost millions during the war...also financed lots of russians and saved them from literal starvation.

wherever that mule train was going in the mountains was real journeying

I have been strongly influenced by Ouspenky's book "The Tertium Organum", an exploration of the 4th Dimension.

Read this and some of his other works and some of Gurdjeiffs also. It was all fun and games with a lot of merit until the really weird shit started showing up like the moon being food for the earth etc. if I remember correctly. Just another step along the way.

@wesleysullivan8047

Жыл бұрын

Other way around. Moon eating soul essence of organic matter here. Moon being the predominant force in mechanicalness of organic life on earth. I just read this today in Ouspenskys Fourth Way. Yes it is a bit difficult.

@j.dragon651

Жыл бұрын

@@wesleysullivan8047 I don't care which way it is, it is still batshit crazy. Some of the philosophy is very insightful, but once it got to that point I had to put it down.

@wesleysullivan8047

Жыл бұрын

@@j.dragon651 I understand your point of view.

@j.dragon651

Жыл бұрын

@@wesleysullivan8047 I have been here 70 years. So far as I can tell, no one has clue.

@wesleysullivan8047

Жыл бұрын

@@j.dragon651 I agree. That's why it doesn't seem so outrageous to me what he says.

Time travel is not common property. Kiom Supante; Darth Pagueis are modern legends of mistaken usurpators who don´t watch the rearview mirror.

@itzakehrenberg3449

Жыл бұрын

That's so deep.

The Buddha said that there were no secret teachings.

Better overview movie is Meetings with Remarkable Men

@martinwilliams9866

11 ай бұрын

Better is both, isn't it? As Court Korzybski of General Semantics (Who I really think was influened by Gurdjieff, especially identification & non-identification) might say, why be limited by Either/Or thinking when you can have Both/& thinking?

Shouldn't this guy be at the front?

Gurdjieff should be wearing a bowler hat.

But the divine spark is inginuity

@herrweiss2580

Жыл бұрын

ingenuity *

I can't find anything that special about his work. There is a lot of hand waving but very little actual substance? Can anyone tell me one great thing about his work please?

@aseculardharma

Жыл бұрын

For me, the substance was in the unsaid, in the atmosphere and context of that time and place.

@rossboucher3413

Жыл бұрын

@@aseculardharma Not likely to be of any help to someone looking for personal development ways and means though is it? He may well have had something special, but my assessment is that he was unable to pass it on.

@nexstory

Жыл бұрын

@@rossboucher3413 The dialogical process is limited, and yet it is the primary method of communication, particularly in the world we live in today. Words, in and of themselves, have little substance or meaning, and still, they are always pointing to something or someone where words imagine meaning abides. We talk too much, dance too little, and misunderstand ourselves and each other almost all the time. Is there a Fifth Way, one that could scale and restore the balance and resolve the mounting global tension each of us is experiencing today? Yes, and no. Most likely no. These threads, though fun are mainly the passing of time.

@rossboucher3413

Жыл бұрын

@@nexstory More intellectual bull sheet of no use to you or anyone. It just confirms totally what I said earlier. That if Gurdjieff did genuinely have something, it was not naturally contagious and he could not pass it on. It died with him.

@nexstory

Жыл бұрын

@@rossboucher3413 Agreed. Question, what lives within you and what useful vision/solution would you like to experience and see manifest in your world.?