JBP - you allowed Maajid to speak freely without interruption, this was fantastic!

@guitaristdotcom

Жыл бұрын

Amen. They _both_ allowed the other their full say. That's how it should be.

@michaelcleary6831

Жыл бұрын

Yeah wonderful Jordan 👍✌️♥️🙏

@glenmacdonald3477

Жыл бұрын

❤

@elektrotehnik94

Жыл бұрын

To be fair; Maajid took liberty of butting in when he needed to make his clarifications heard, more so than Jordan was lavish with time given freely to Maajid. 👀👍 Let truth be above “what sounds good”. 🗽🏆

@tommeyer6626

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Jordans enthusiasm is a key part of his conversations, but it often interferes with the guest's time to formulate ideas. This conversation was noticeably different. And as a result, I got a lot of new Ideas (or another spin on ideas I heard before). If this was on purpose: good job Jordan :D I think, combined with your extremely broad range of guests (with unique ideas) this spirit can make your, already outstanding podcast, ... well, dangerously transforming... Or something like that^^

Jordan should do interviews with all those who disagree with him. In-depth. That would broaden the perspective of viewers.

@Jair2435

Жыл бұрын

Many people BEG leftists to come on, they refuse. Know why? Cuz they know they are lying. They know logic does not support their ideas. Only feelings.

@IndiaTides

Жыл бұрын

@@AFringedGentian I am not assuming that. Let's start with Trevor Noah. He is always ready for discussion.

@liljoe5139

Жыл бұрын

You can’t show mentally ill people were they are wrong

@w00d5m4n

Жыл бұрын

indeed, seems like a lot of his current guests are 'yes men' jst growing clout by appearing on his channel and parroting the same woke bashing arguements we heard already in 2015. u obviously cant change ur race or gender what more is there to discuss?

@IndiaTides

Жыл бұрын

@@liljoe5139 Same can be claimed about you. You want echo chambers of ideas and dopamine for validation of those ideas. That is not intelligent discourse but an addiction.

Maajid was an excellent guest -- honorable, well-spoken, and incredibly thoughtful. And of course Jordan was as great as ever. What an excellent interview.

Jordan is like the narrator of the world's best essays, but in real time. Genius level conduct of any langauge.

You probably won't read this yourself, but for the small chance that you do I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart dr. Peterson. I have been depressed for about 9 years and your video's gave me the courage to seek help. I found out I have a mental illness and I have medication now that works extremely well for me. I am really greatful for all you have done, because without you I'm not sure this message would have ever been written. I was as low mentally as you could imagine. You saved my life and you saved my family from alot of missery. ❤

@dreperez8403

10 ай бұрын

All the best mate

@Foxtrotwilconiner1969

10 ай бұрын

I’m so happy for you

@vickireed2936

6 ай бұрын

What you have just shared gives Jordon the most satisfaction. I started watching his classroom lectures years ago now and I knew he was special. Keep going.❤

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@WiolciaMrozowska531

Жыл бұрын

I just looked up his name on Google and saw his impressive resume. I consider myself lucky to have found this comment area..

@stanleyzac1648

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the advice. Your coach was simple to discover online. I did my research on him before I scheduled our phone call. He appears knowledgeable based on his online resume.

@MatgorzataZielinska

Жыл бұрын

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@CharlesBWillz

Жыл бұрын

I had to travel to meet Mr. Rodger Michael Karl four months ago, only for better closure since he is a terrific tool if you look for money. He transformed my life, he has been amazing, and ever since I met him, my life has taken a positive turn because of the passive income through his knowledge.

@brentmathie3271

Жыл бұрын

Everyone on this thread are (b) grade magicians bad actors, extremely poor quality jesters pretending to being able to destroy the illusion in front of people through creating another that is flowery You guys will end down Alice’s hole sucking face with frogs 😅 🐸🧞‍♂️💥👈

What a time to be alive and watch such remarkable conversation between these man who have their conduct so on point. What a shame we couldn't have our governors to look anything like these two gentleman..

Thank you so much Jordan and Maajid for this brilliant upload . We need more active voices for truth and peace

@raidzeromatt

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile....

Yes Maajid! I didn't think I'd see him on with JBP, that's great!

@YaronZ-fr6fm

Жыл бұрын

MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!

Its a humbling experience to listen to these great conversationalists speaking in praise of the sacred and against the profane. I thank God for them both.

Enlightening dialogue. Thank you Jordan and Maajid. Peace.

I absolutely love how JP listens and takes notes. If there is anyone who can show world leaders, or anyone for that matter, how to properly engage in a debate or conversation it's him. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them and their perspective. The world is in dire need of effective communication.

@achipinthesugar

Жыл бұрын

He’s drawing pictures of dicks in the margin, man.

@garetclaborn

Жыл бұрын

respect should be earned, not given freely. they have earned rejection.

@Madonnalitta1

Жыл бұрын

I've noticed that Brand takes notes too.

@Talbot305

Жыл бұрын

Hence the interview with Netanyahu which was nothing like him and was like a paid and forced political campaign.

@ID30394

Жыл бұрын

@@Talbot305 That's been his only interview I sensed to be somewhat disingenuous.

Maajid Nawaz helped me feel the 'othering' in a way I've only intellectualized before. Beautifully stated, sir.

I love Mr Jordan Peterson...ever time I watch Jordan Peterson content, I am educated and he opens my mind. He is a Legend and one of our times Greatest Minds. Thank you

I love these open debates and fair exchange of communication

4:34 - Maajid’s smile when Jordan talks about the Cathy Newman interview communicates so much without a single word. So satisfying. I feel the same way, Maajid.

OMG YES! He did the smartest move he could possibly have done! True discourse!

Love listening to intelligent/open minded/well educated men. refreshing in this lunatic times

@YaronZ-fr6fm

Жыл бұрын

MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!

What a beautiful conversation and meeting of the minds. Myself as an example, one does not need to be an intellect to grasp what these men have put forward. I may possibly repeat listening; there are such basic and “sacred” concepts. I hope the sacred concepts will spread far and wide. Please keep this in my heart and in the hearts of all good people on this earth. Thank you, so very much!❤🙏🌕

Incredible interview. Pure Gold. Amazing how both men are warriors in defense of language. In this they are truly united. Peterson rose to fame by refusing to allow his language to be hijacked and policed into incomprehensible pronouns. Brilliant and gripping discussion!!! This is what mature dialogue looks like

@comfortat

5 ай бұрын

Nawaz is the most boring, word salad-er I've heard since forever. He prattles on and on and never says a damn thing.

As a jew that is closely following the, say, muslim-jewish situation, I have to say this is gold. It's hard for me to listen to the other side but I try and push myself. I've just listened to this and I got to say, Maajid is a man that I deeply respect and can learn from. People like him can make jew-muslim peace a possibility and conversations like these as well. Thank you!

@nav021298

Жыл бұрын

Salaam, shalom!

@suras8984

Жыл бұрын

I can say the same thing as an Arab. It's hard for me to listen to the other side. But I do respect Jewish people on an individual basis. I really like Ben Shapiro for example. I would never agree with him when it comes to Israel but I like his takes on other important matters and he lives a respectable life.

@zaydplatform

Жыл бұрын

there's no muslim-jewish issues, it's the zionism we're against no peace with zionists

@marktwain9031

Жыл бұрын

@@romeemperor Barbarian Arabs? You really know nothing about Barbarians. Racism is what you wrote here. I’m a American Palestinian Muslim who is been married to an Italian woman for twenty five years. Two of my brothers are married to Kurdish women. One lives in England, and the other lives in Amman-Jordan. Until this moment, I had no idea that I and my big Arab family are racist Barbarians. Thanks for enlighten me. Is it possible that you are simply projecting what’s inside you, and not necessarily describing a whole race as racist Barbarians?

@JackDorsey10

Жыл бұрын

Jews and Muslims have always been at peace it’s Israel that tore it apart Muslims have always given Jews refuge and protection from Christian persecution that’s why 65% of Israeli Jews are from Muslim and Arab lands and why when Muslim Spain fell Jews left with Muslims to Morocco when Portugal started killing Jews then Jews came to turkey when the first crusaders came Jews fought with Muslims and when jerselum fell from Muslim control Jews were expelled and were allowed to return after 89 years when Muslims retook it under Saladin and also in 637ac when umar the second caliph of Islam for the first time led Muslims to conqueror Jerusalem and the whole Palestine and took Palestine from the Romans he allowed Jews to return and our sources mention he cried and fell to his knees and started cleaning it himself and soon the whole Arab army started cleaning it when he seen how the Roman’s turned the western wall to a dumpster site where they would put their feces and other garbage like imagine the leader of the Muslim world the most powerful man on the face of this earth is crying and cleaning the holy site of the Jews and also he asked the Christian high bishop “where are the Jews” and the Christian bishop said “ we killed or expelled them all or mostly all of them except a few” and umar said “ how can you expel the Jews,when some of our most blessed prophets were from them” and umar decreed that Jews were allowed to return and he wanted a former Jewish convert to Islam to bring 10 Jewish families and umar would pay for them to live there like the Jews survived because Muslim gave them protection from Christian europe if there was no Islam or Muslims then Christian’s would’ve conquered the whole Middle East and North Africa and they would’ve eventually exterminated the Jews but because of Muslims they could never do that because we would protect Jews with our own lives and Jews were apart of us and we have great respect for them and we worship the same god and we revere all the Jewish prophets & Jews were welcomed in Muslim lands and it’s was their home and they were apart of it like I seen Iraqi Jews cry when Iraq was getting invaded and Libyan Jews cry when Libya was getting invaded and I seen I video of a 80 year old Libyan jew saying “ they’re bombing Libya they’re bombing my country” and I swear that made me cry because Jews were apart of our societies and it’s sad Zionism and Zionist tricked and made them feel they were different and that their countries were not their countries and were Muslim countries and that they would never be welcomed you see all expulsion and attack on Jews in Muslim lands happened after Israel and Zionism started and Zionist are disgusting inhumane thieves and savages

I don't usually fall in love with documentaries, but this one is stunningly beautiful. A masterpiece!

@audiochannel3228

Жыл бұрын

It’s called a podcast boss

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven

@MitchellPorter2025

Жыл бұрын

Bernard Baars, the inventor of the Global Workspace theory of consciousness? Small world

@redpillras3456

Жыл бұрын

What documentary?

Jordan is on another level with his intellect and grasp of the truth on a whole host of topics. I love to see him in action and feel blessed to have such a man on this platform. Great Britain is not what it used to be, that's for sure 🇬🇧

What a fascinating conversation! Thank you for sharing this with us!

Maajid is an absolute gem, he really bolstered me during the height of the nonsense. They got him off of UK TV because of it, but he didn't stop talking. I'm proud to call him my countryman. Words are indeed spells Maajid.

@Madonnalitta1

Жыл бұрын

And he's correct when he says that he spoke out against antisemitism. He's spoken out about Muslim grooming gangs. He spoke out against the lockdowns. He's a man of principle.

@elephantintheroom-francois494

Жыл бұрын

The man has courage, clarity and compassion by the spadeful - rare to find someone so articulate in the political arena who also has a sense of spiritual oneness and who is not afraid to invoke it ..

@ay7828

Жыл бұрын

@@leegrant7333 And you claim that you are the one to judge? Funny.

@JH-ji6cj

Жыл бұрын

​@@leegrant7333 so Jordan doesn't claim his knowledge as validated by his education certifications and clinical work? You're flat wrong here. Claims to Authority are one thing, but experiential knowledge should not be assumed to be Claims To Authority like you are trying to equate them in your comment.

@painintheknee1209

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t stop to let JP talk

Absolutely love this. Love what Mr Peterson is doing. Keep an open mind, stay true, and communicate.

Thank you guys, amazing, and very insightful , Prayers ,may GOD BLESS yous and the work yous are doing 👍🙏💝

Thanks to Mr. Nawaz, I have considered and will make an active effort to keep a more open mind and look at things with nuance. tysm, from the bottom of my heart my brother

I don't believe I have ever seen two people speak with such a deep, passionate understanding of humanity... What a great gift these men have given the world by embracing humility to the extent that they could wrestle with these ideas and share them with us... God bless both of you... 🙏

@stewiemac4017

Жыл бұрын

Hello, those were also my thoughts. It drew together threads of my own thoughts into a wider realisation. It crystallised that, for the first time, all humans are now in jeopardy, due to the beliefs and actions of other humans. Rather than as a consequence of the natural world.

@RojaJaneman

Жыл бұрын

U need to meet/listen to more people

@mclagett1043

Жыл бұрын

@@RojaJaneman I listen to a lot of people speak on many different topics.. Perhaps you have a suggestion?

@RojaJaneman

Жыл бұрын

@@mclagett1043 which subjects do u fancy?

@mclagett1043

Жыл бұрын

@@RojaJaneman Philosophy, psychology, poetry, religion and to a lesser degree current events...

Dr. JP, I love how you take pillars of idea networks and simplify them to the point anyone can understand and discuss. Incredibly grateful for your service and dedication. Take care

What a lesson. Thank you Dr. Jordan for bringing such an intellect.

Amazing in a sense that, JP is opening the doors to all dialogs. Bravo JP! and Bravo MN!

Unity, peace, and love brothers. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Thanks Maajid, happy to hear you clear things up with Jordan. Thankful. Love you both.

@akofr7142

Жыл бұрын

Best JBP podcast ever. Thanks Maajid.

What a wonderful meeting this was! And no accident that at the end of all the discourse and explanation it is, and always has been, so very simple. We are sacred, and to remain so must remember this, and act in ways to encourage others to be so. Simple, but hard. The whole world is in our way, but only because we have been trying to be separate from it, instead of part of it.

@kjs1069

6 ай бұрын

Totally. I too feel this after 53 yrs & connected with what he was saying regarding separation. Its so paradoxingly basic yet complicated to realise we are what we're experiencing, including everything & everyone in it. Hard to wrap your head around due to the illusion of physical reality. Thus faith. Once you understand why treat others the way you would like to be treated is the golden rule you can forgive them for they know not what they do.

I love both of these men so very very much! This is the sort of example that needs to be set amongst the whole world

@bonfelle

Жыл бұрын

Jordan was colonized, I am afraid!

@TheFranco49

Жыл бұрын

@@bonfelle both are am afraid but soft innocent Naive people is their main target

SO POWERFUL!! Listening to this discourse is extremely pleasurable. Feeling the presence of Him, who presides over us all. 🙏

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven!!

@YaronZ-fr6fm

Жыл бұрын

MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!

@YaronZ-fr6fm

11 ай бұрын

MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!

In this lunatic times, I think letting my ears flow in this incredible talk, release a big dose of positivity and makes me see this world utterly positive, so my salute goes from the heart to Jordan Peterson and Mr.Maajid ! Thank you

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven!!!!!

@oth2091

Жыл бұрын

@@salvatoreadrade5464 says the musketeer behind his screen, holding his keyboard, spreading courage aroud !

BRO this whole conversation elevated me spiritually and intellectually. This perspective aligns with Islam and probably other abrahamic faiths too. It is essentially brining back spirituality into our daily lives and interactions.

Maajid, your absolutely spot on to call out the dualist perspective as the root cause. Less conspiracy and more an incomplete world view that is getting even more disconnected as it disappears into the metaverse.

How I wish Peterson will host Mehdi Hassan.... It's really gonna be terrific.

Listened to him every Sunday on LBC. Thank you!

@adnankazim88

Жыл бұрын

Is it good?

@bankaihadouken1180

Жыл бұрын

​@@adnankazim88 they sacked him

Listened to majid on lbc and was enraged when they removed him, I have now found him on this platform and applaud his absolute determination to have his vies of truth heard This interview altho way above my intellectual capacity was insightful and intriguing. I applaud these two very intelligent people and believe we can learn a lot from them. Pleased they have a platform

@Extra_050

6 ай бұрын

I miss him on that radio station too! I can barely stand it now.

@kazamshah4543

5 ай бұрын

LBC shot themselves in the foot for letting him go.

A stimulating conversation between two very smart and eloquent people.

Thank you to both for this real true honest Debate between two real Human being… wether they agree or not, being able to exchange respectfully and bring a dialogue to this very difficult subject is a start at least… all my respect gentlemen 🙏🏼 as a Muslim, that gives me hope for next generations .

@pathollingworth2170

Жыл бұрын

As a Christian I am with you Sam - it was wonderful to listen to them both - strong representation of good towards humanity

@schijtaccount1

Жыл бұрын

I dont know where i am but i believe its the same god, but we have an islamic, christian or jewish practice of our god. I see value in all of them. And surely where they all agree, that must be the most important truth for the most peoples. Thank you gentlemen 🙏

@GT380man

Жыл бұрын

@Bernards Better than murder over conflicting belief systems.

@GT380man

Жыл бұрын

I have one important contribution to make at the point of agreement between them about the UN2030 Sustainable Development Goals. It is this. Governments and pharma have agreed business terms to acquire sufficient doses of mRNA-based vaccines to inject every citizen ten (10) times over. Now, mRNA-based products force the cells of our body to express non-self proteins. Axiomatically, this will induce autoimmune attack upon whatever cell & tissue expresses the encoded protein. You do that 10 times over. What do you think might happen? Yes, I think that, too. Yet that’s our future.

Another top tier dialogue! Maajid has articulated precisely what it is we are in the midst of. Thank you both (all) so much for this episode !

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound very craven.

Patrice ONeal used to say in O&A show that we were loosing the sense of context, back in like 2010, this great conversation proves him right, on that and many other things.

Very useful podcast, good job jp and ya majjid, well done,I appreciate the way u conducted yourself in a very gaceful and wonderful way, both on your attitude and your speech morality and stuff, 🖤

Thank you Jordan and Maajid. I'm incredibly grateful to be a part of this conversation if only as a listener. It would have taken me many lifetimes to reach the wisdom you both demonstrate in this conversation.

@traciebecker6669

Жыл бұрын

I can say similar as I would need at least another lifetime. No matter the point where we all are in our learned knowledge, let us hope we will continue to seek and learn more everyday. I have several grandchildren and young friends and I try to influence them to have a love for learning ❤️

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven.

@najmaalikhan

Жыл бұрын

Have a love for learning hypocrisy, shame, words couched in internal meanings that disqualified one group of people and to elevate another, is that what means to learning.

@najmaalikhan

Жыл бұрын

He only made pro Israelites happy while not even caring about the sentiments of the Palestinians who are being deprived of their rights and being brutality discriminated against by Apartheid state of Israel. Showed his true colour and where his interests lie.

@maximenish

Жыл бұрын

@@najmaalikhan So so sad...Barely nobody advocates those who've already lost their voice to report their ongoing struggle and are held back from being able to determine their own path.

This is the conversation that is needed across all boards…Loved it …proper,appropriate,full of soul.❤

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound quite craven.

@MineMeMineMeMineMe

Жыл бұрын

Another American or Pakistani illiterate in Islam? or someone who thinks Islam isn't modern enough? Majid Nawaz has been a black sheep of the Muslims. Majid Nawaz isn't the best person to speak up for Muslims and Islam. he is a tool and by defination is fascist, liberal and anti-islamic moron. He kept going against Islam and Muslim to enrich himself while sitting in night clubs and using foul langauge while publically sexualizing his own wife. His basic morals and values are totally messed up; his institution failed and stopped when funding stopped. now knowing him and his institution that he has built, he will shake hands with zionist to sell Islam and Muslims again to enrich himself. The dude doesn't even speak arabic. he is pakistani moron who has no basic ground in fiqh sciences and Islamic foundational sciences.

@mags7054

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you, brilliant conversation.

@joshhoodrat451

Жыл бұрын

“Israel didn’t exist before 1948” , really ? Who was King Saul ? Who was King David ? Sorry there is no “West Bank” it’s called Judea ( the land of the Jew ). Jordan , God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac NOT the child of some Egyptian whore slave (Ishmael ) , salvation is of the Jews . Palestine comes from the word Philistine , they don’t exist anymore. There will be peace when the Arab loves their children more than they hate the Jews

Absolutely stunning! Thank you both 😊

Under the illusion of freedom 👏👏👏 yes the veil has been removed 💯

This is one of the best podcast episodes I have ever heard, ever.

@allyourbase888

Жыл бұрын

I agree. This is such an important conversation.

A fine conversation between two men I have great respect for. Thank you both for your insights, the work that you do, and for being a genuine force for good.

I'm only now becoming familiar with Maajid, but he impresses me greatly every time I hear him speak.

You had me at Danger Mouse, Maajid. I used to watch that as a kid. In all seriousness though, two very wise men having a very informative discussion. We need more of this!

FINALLY! After all this time. Good job on viewing both parts of the issue and actually setting up the meeting

"Every point on a sphere is the centre of the sphere, and yet, still a point" - Maajid, on collective individuals 🔥

Majid we are so blessed to have you.

What a mind blowing conversation this was. Very strong. It help clarify, enlighten, and connect the dots. The discussion on the sacred demonstrates our underlying problem. We can not be separated from the big fundamental...we are only going farther and farther astray and trying to replace it with whatever movement or principality is false and doesn't fill that void properly.

@Adam_A_Christian

6 ай бұрын

Only Jesus Christ can save us from what's coming to all mankind. Put your trust in Him who proved His love for you by dying to pay for your sins and rising from the grave to show you what's possible when you fear not, only believe. 🙏✝️❤️ He is risen.

I love seeing Maajid describe awakening to see past his blindside. Seeing people do that is one of the highlights of my life.

Oh how I wish it was people like the both of you who were the head of countries. President , prime minister. We so need you guys in this world. Thank you

@lowandodor1150

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine? Just what we could achieve? It is so sad, just how far away we are from such a world..... .. . . .

@ruthyk7083

Жыл бұрын

It's up to us. The people can choose to install good people. But it means we don't obfuscate responsibility and demand a nanny takes care of us.

@ruthyk7083

Жыл бұрын

​@@leegrant7333 proper understanding, sussing out the issues, and every individual taking part in pursuing what would be best. Right now there's no proper diagnosis. How can there be a prescription?

@ruthyk7083

Жыл бұрын

@@leegrant7333 what I mean by babysitting, is that we can't select someone and then sit back. We need to select individuals that 1. Are representing us and we have a continued meaningful discourse with while they are in office. 2. Free us to make decisions on the local level. The solution to what's been going on is a civics engaged populace on the local level. Most things should be decided locally and very little top down authority. That also includes cutting nearly all taxes that are not local. Cut off the money and ability to dictate laws... Then it's left to people not to be lazy. If we can't be bothered and aren't educated and driven to create the communities we live in, then someone/government will occupy that open vacuum for power. It's tedious and involved. It requires every individual to be engaged. Then a representative system upwards of demarcated area that feels it's too large for more individuals or land to be included. (Pick a number of people/ square miles...). Regions then get represented. Each region has a majority local vote. Then that vote gets cast as one for the state---> national... This can be done live with transparency on all large scale policies or mandates. It should require public open discourse on the given issue for 1-3 weeks. With the platforms and tech we have, every shared community should have live chats, host town halls and discussions with the elected representative who is then obligated by law to provide services based on what the people decide. Voting on a frequent and transparent system where people can track their own votes and check the numbers against a registered population enrollment that is voluntary. Anyway..... it's simple, but would have moving parts and requires a lot of decentralized maintenance to insure integrity. Also highly decentralized. But then it requires a moral population with shared values that are dedicated to maintaining freedom.

This was an amazing conversation. Im thankful to God for having it appear in my algorithm.

Really big Thank You for this. Maajid was terrific at expanding some of the complexity associated with a problem Britain contributed to in 1948, but one that of course goes back - as you discuss here - more than a millennia. I’m one of the (many) insufficiently informed white English Christian males and this conversation I hope can be part of a longer series that dives broad and deep into this precious part of the world (yes, I know, it’s all precious) and the challenges around love, empathy, respect, tolerance, communications (illuminating the world, the role of story and of history being the future, before writing) was terrific.

@SurpriseMeJT

11 ай бұрын

Maajid is nothing but an opportunist. He was funded by the UK for his Quilliam foundation and after that money dried up, he's seeking popularity amongst the Muslims again. People fall for his use of cleaver words but when you really listen to him over time, you wonder what he actually believes.

@funguysid

11 ай бұрын

Palestinian which were the high majority in that land, were not pushed out by war in 1948. (If they were, it would be sorta acceptable to them.) They were hustled out of their land under pretence of peace and promise of same land. While "allied powers" gave in unethical fashion and still give military might, nuclear power, intellectual property, financial aid to isreal to harm Arabs and others to keep games of politcal check. Its similar and a refined form of British East India company saying, hey we're just trading and are not turning Indians into replacements for slave trade and then took over and plundered them. At least folks who engage in war have the courage and honesty to say it is a war. This trickory of harming victims and then blaming the victims is unjustified. So you can falsely say someone mightier took over and oh it was Isreali land to begin with, when fact is, these are manipulations and lies to say heads I win and tails you lose. Lies cannot be turned into truth. Injustice, cannot be turned into something justifiable. Just becuase its your turn to deal the cards doesnt mean it will stay that way. People will always look back and call a spade a spade.

I thought I was a fan of LBC and then Maajid left and I couldn’t understand why it was going downhill. Now I know. Maajid is a British gem!

@imnotconvinced4833

Жыл бұрын

Maajid is a grifter and a snake in the grass, nothing more. He will lie to your face and you will swallow it, hook, line and sinker. He’s about as British as the halal meat and Sharia Law, that he supports. Get a clue.

@Handletaken4

Жыл бұрын

His shows were memory-holed as thought-crime

I loved this entire conversation. I'm a Lebanese Christian, and I've seen the other end of exclusionary language that's used here in Lebanon where Israel is considered the enemy that needs to be exterminated in order for Palestinians to reclaim their land. Very well done by Nawaz who considering his background has never once mentioned any retaliation against the Jews and in fact has defended them during anti-Semitic waves. He is also dead-on about there being people on both sides who benefit from the continuation of the conflict, one of them being Hezbollah which uses it to create fear among his followers and maintain a grip on the Lebanese government. As for the topic of language and its lost context, I think this idea interestingly enough isn't a strange one to artists. An artist knows this diminishing effect of the destructive and analysing brain and avoids it as much as possible. Lots of painters refuse to post their renditions online, even for whatever viewing price, because not experiencing them in person is meaningless and removes the context of it. This is also similar to those who cannot stand using digital cameras and instead use the old Polaroids and like to feel the image in their hands after they've taken it. It's applicable to music as well, where hearing a song through earphones or the phone speaker loses so much of the full extent of musical information that you can hear in headphones or high-fidelity sound systems. I wish there were contributors who worked on reviving the lost meanings of the text in the same way that Nawaz did here. Because not only have we lost the context of Arabic, we've nearly stopped using it altogether.

@jsbrads1

Жыл бұрын

Listened to Brigitte Gabriel. Harrowing origin story. Wish you all the best.

@schizophrenicenthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@jsbrads1 Hold up, I've never heard of her before and looking her up now she seems a bit extremist. Sure she had it tough growing up in the Lebanese civil war, who hasn't? But that's no excuse for her current views. To be clear I am not insinuating any anti-muslim narrative in my comment above. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that does not represent any comprehensive subset of muslims, but rather uses tactics of propagandistic fearmongering to force muslims in lebanon into siding with them and keep them in political power.

@jsbrads1

Жыл бұрын

@@schizophrenicenthusiast which views of hers don’t you like?

@raffam3559

Жыл бұрын

@@jsbrads1 almost everything as 99.9% of Lebanese people for good reasons. She talks in a form that makes her look insightful and intellectual but does t have much substance. It’s all fluff.

@hamzaahmad5806

Жыл бұрын

This beef isn’t about Christians vs Jews it’s about Muslims vs Jews

I’m Jewish, and I would follow this man’s lead. Remarkable thinker and proponent of good.

really interesting. i will need to rewatch it probably to understand more

Sir Jordan Peterson is a rare rare gem who changed countless lives for better. ❤️❤️

@professorlaiceps1

Жыл бұрын

He is what most of us alive is. You got to think about the rest of the world. All the crazies are a very small part of the western society

@ksteinmuller

11 ай бұрын

could you imagine that far leftist woke King Charles knighting Jordan Peterson? He's far too busy destroying his own country to worry about recognizing exceptional people in the Commonwealth.

I think that the level of verbal intelligence of both participants is simply outstanding

@leonej7519

Жыл бұрын

Yes I can’t articulate my self on that level but i enjoy listening

Wow, very both very knowledgeable enjoyed this,will rewatch "Evil prevails when good people fail to act "we all need to act as well as communication 🎉🎉🎉

Haven't seen Majjid for years. Have been wondering about him these last few days. He has aged, but still what a wisdom!

I appreciate you so much Doctor Peterson 🙏

@well-8814

Жыл бұрын

Sap

@katofuntato466

Жыл бұрын

@@well-8814 your complaint has been seen and will be forwarded to the manager thanks for your input Karen

@Zarakikenpachi69420

Жыл бұрын

@@well-8814 I don't care for the opinions of narcissistic troll demons your words mean nothing to me

So much good stuff here. Going to have to watch this one a few times to unpack it all. Thank you Jordan and Maajid for the spectacular, thought provoking conversation!

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound cowardly

God bless both of you. I have always loved that JP is a person who seeks the Truth. Minute 58 really stood out for me in this convo. When watching other news coverage of this political crisis, I've cringed every time someone called one side or the other "evil." That's the beginning of dehumanizing each other, when evil is in each of our hearts. our mission is to constantly keep our own selves in check. if each of us did that, the world would be a different place.

With everything happening now, it would be great to bring him back.

Majjid's first response was incredibly gripping. As the interview went on you could unpack Majjid's mission on a metaphysical level. This was an unbelievable conversation between two very intelligent individuals.

@ownthelibs

Жыл бұрын

He never answered the main question.. did Bibi say anything not factual? Kind of amazing that ppl allow the Palestinians to lie about history but get mad when the Israelis speak the truth

@RaggaMatik

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I have ever witnessed a conversation as in depth as this one. JP was extremely humble too, which made me respect him even more, the opposite reaction to what most expect to humility.

@kaledafif7972

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely 💯 agree!!!

@SurpriseMeJT

11 ай бұрын

I didn't think so. When he mentioned the idea that Islam isn't accepted in the Christian civilization, I think that the conversation should have stopped right there for him to expand on what he meant. If he assumes that an apartheid civilization should be accepted by an open one, then I'd say he's got a few screws loose.

@ef4768

11 ай бұрын

@@SurpriseMeJT The only Apartheid state is Israel.

I felt humbled by this interview. It made me realize that I need to do a much better job of giving people an audience to help me understand their point of view. I know I dismiss people too easily when I don’t share their fundamental beliefs. It’s really about showing love, patience, respect and giving the gift of time to those who want to share their story. “Freely you have received, freely give”.

@rls4072

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully Said.

@dannyjoosten297

Жыл бұрын

The most beautiful part is how they start off with all the similarities, which creates an immediate bond of respect. Among them and also with me as a viewer. Really eye opening

@featherkutz5894

Жыл бұрын

Very well said. So grateful for this eye and heart opening conversation. Respect for both Jordan Peterson and Maajid Nawaz for their profound knowledge and underdranding things as they are.

@jadhajali2804

Жыл бұрын

No, it's not about giving 'love'. Don't link it with a fleeting and fickle emotion such as love, because the minute you no longer have love, or the minute you actually feel hate, you'll no longer do it. It's about having a fundamental and genuine interest in the TRUTH. Once you have that, you'll need patience and respect. If you have a genuine interest in the truth, you'll want to engage with people instead of dismissing them, because you're actively seeking the truth. And hearing other people's views and opposite views is one of the best and most efficient ways to arrive at truths. If you engage with people with opposite views, you'll need patience and respect in order to hold a proper conversation, WITHOUT letting your emotions take control. Patience and respect will act as a deterrent to the rampart emotions that may arise from a heated debate / conversation. And throughout the conversation, your genuine interest in the truth, will be the driving force that allows you to navigate it.

@javedyusufzai363

Жыл бұрын

You dirtbags have one thing in common, an Envy of Islam and that's what brings you all together.

JP should invite Netanyahu and Maajid to table for a conversation. Conversations like these ones are important for peace. Remember, when diplomacy fails, war begins

Very good day to you Mr.Peterson. Nothing but love & regards from my side. Avid follower & student of your works Sir. I compliment and extend my regards to you for everytime sincerely trying to comprehend both sides of the discussion. Especailly the way you tread around mulim beliefs trying your best not to step over anyones feelings and or beliefs in the process of discussing matters that are sensitive and highly important. So i wish for your knowlege on all matters of importance to grow towards the ideas what would end up being correct and part of solutions to things the world have still have not found answers to. My salam Mr. Majid aswell, i also appreciate your way of trying to express the degree of truth that your belief and views hold, and i certainly appreciate your willingness to also be a voice of reason in times where states and governments are least pushed about such avenues to the problems in the world. I wish intelligent and honest people like yourselves prosper in thier good intent & endeavours to speak for voices that arent heard, for the assistance in the comprehension of people who dont understand the realities of the world around them and for the helping and enlightening of the ignorant members of society. ☀️

What a wonderful and enlightening conversation. We all need much much more of these.

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven!!!

@urstube6901

Жыл бұрын

they said a whole lot of nothing, it was civil that's just about it.. but as for enlightening it was very much surface level.. but that's just my opinion

Maajids last Rogan appearance is one of the most important episodes of JRE. That and the latest James Lindsay episode. Check those out if you haven't yet.

@SyringeSem

Жыл бұрын

James Lindsay having a convo with Jordan would be amazing.

@icrushtheenemy1047

Жыл бұрын

Yes the JRE episode with Maajid is CLASSIC

@patrycja2696

Жыл бұрын

What about? Can you share please? I have no idea who they are. Genuine question, thank you.

@W.Shakespeare

Жыл бұрын

James Lindsay is a dork

@SyringeSem

Жыл бұрын

@@W.Shakespeare How so?

Words are spells. So simple and yet so profound.

Superb.. simply stunning!! thank you

It’s good to hear two great voices so very eloquently describe and voice opposition to the misguided path that we are being set upon. Thank you both!

@SurpriseMeJT

11 ай бұрын

There is a lot of 'stage setting' by Maajid and when he eventually gets to his points, he sound like any old deranged Islamic supremist.

Another fantastic morning, thank you.. speaking to the sacred and to the forgotten is always enlightening. To embrace the challenge of language while embracing the sacred needs to be the first commitment of us all on a daily basis… 🙏

Theres so much more to discuss here. We need a part two asap

A Respectful & intellectual conversation. I love that Jordan provides a platform for open discussion 👍🏻

Now that’s what I call a conversation! 2 very prominent highly qualified « influencers » doing a great effort for humanity. Let’s spread this!!

@Daniel2020Dj

Жыл бұрын

No conversation, one said JudoChristian west, other said JudoChrisrianIslamic west. one said Abrah acord is inclusive, other said exclusive. Everyone said his point without real engegement.

@markc4176

Жыл бұрын

The “solution” to conflict in the Middle East is easy…temporary peace will come for a little while from a man pretending to be both the muslim and jewish messiah once Christians disappear, then more war will follow, then Jesus will appear and people will finally realize He is God. Otherwise, peace cannot happen in the Middle East…ever.

@christophenevejan4782

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel2020Dj why do you think a good conversation needs to imply a real engagement?

@Daniel2020Dj

Жыл бұрын

@@christophenevejan4782 The word “conversation” derives from two Latin roots; namely com meaning “together” and versare meaning “to turn.” Hence it literally means “turning together” - perhaps a daily life understanding of structural coupling.

@salvatoreadrade5464

Жыл бұрын

You sound craven!

Man, what a stimulating conversation. Love listening to Majid, and of course JP

Please continue to talk to more Muslims JB in the long form interview. I would have loved to hear you tackle additional topics together. Nice conversation JB and MN! Hoping to see more of the Radical podcast as well...

Maajid was amazing in this. He’s really grown as a thinker over the years

@SurpriseMeJT

11 ай бұрын

He was the puppet of Harris and now he's a puppet of the Imams.

@kazamshah4543

5 ай бұрын

Did you see his wife. How did a guy like him get such a gorgeous girl.

@comfortat

5 ай бұрын

He's a pseudo intellectual who uses lots of words to say absolutely nothing.

A beautiful conversation. Unity in our humanity 🙏

Well done guys. That was a very interesting conversation. Maajid's wisdom reminded me a teaching I heard once from a rabbi about the loss of original speach - "the holy tongue", and the story of the tower of babel, still going on today.

Great conversation. I love this. Isn’t beautiful. Great knowledge for everyone and me: 💯

as a Palestinian starting from the bond of love is what we learned to do with our christian brothers. at least in most of Palestine. one strong example of that from my life is who my best friend was "before he moved to the USA AND gradually we lost connection" but during the 10-15 years we've known each other, the first 1 year of our friendship when it was all fresh we actually did not even know what is the religion of each other. although i am more on the agnostic front but i am still affected by my Islamic roots in the way i speak and behave and on the western world on the way i think. but, for the most part we never knew, asked or cared about the religion part of our lives as we started from a place of love and brotherhood. and it was only after the first year that i knew he was christian just because i went to visit his family to congratulate them on their new business. it was my first time in his house and it was clearly a christian house but i really did not think much of it at a time. and it did not come up to my mind until years later when all this charade started in the west and the US with all the woke cultures , radical feminism, other radical shit, the woke culture. and all of that struck me as weird to the point where i had one question. how can people hate each other before they even know each other ? there is only one simple answer to that question really which can be unpacked and studied and all that. but that simple metaphorical answer is, people have begun their introductions not by "hello i am ryan" but by "hello, i am a left/right wing" and again, i am being metaphorical here but i do believe we all understand exactly what i am referring to here. but i can't just figure out why this problem does not exist in Palestine, but does exist in the west and the US. i just can't figure it out but if there is one thing that's fundamentally different between Palestine and the west. it would be the effect of media and media platforms on people or maybe the usage of such platform. one of the biggest examples, no body uses twitter. people mostly use facebook and only people who usse their actual names are taken seriously and no one pays ANY ATTENTION to anyone not using their actual name and city. some girls are an exception as they shy away from using personal information but most don't. the sacrility of the word as DR peterson called it. in under-developed counties maybe and maybe just in Palestine. we simply very intrinsically connected to one's reputation. the reputation not of one's religion or political views, but by one's acts. my father's words were and still are very highly believed and regarded as he is an intellectual, he wrote books and most his books are published and distributed with profit or material gain and he's been sacrificing his life for a very long time for the country and the people to the point where he even lost his chance of becoming a very "rich and high political figure" because of an incident where he rejected a presidential decision to use firefighters to rebel a riot. and my father had the power to reject that and he said "we train and give our lives to save people, not injure them" the opposite of that would be a specific Palestinian politician who's been working for the good of the Israeli government damaging Palestinian lives AND he does not even hide it. and try to be modern and democratic so no one ever threatened him but his words are the opposite of believed or respected. now the reason i brought those 2 detailed example is this: if my father and that man are IN the US. what is really going to happen, is simply as follows: 1- if my father is right wing he would be loved or hated based on that, and if he is left wing he will be loved and hated based on that. 2- the same rules would apply to that devil of a man. so again, it comes back to the same problem. if Palestine in this whole dialogue here represents the developed world 10-20 years ago. then i don't understand how can or did the west go from crediting people based on their noble acts and started crediting people based on their "political agenda" and power. what happened in those 10-30 years in the west which caused people to forget respect, reputation, responsibility, sacrifice... all of that and most importantly love.

Accepting yourself just the way you are is something you should only do for a moment. It involves looking at reality, and if we don’t accept the truth about who we are when we take that moment to look, so that we can deal with what’s not right, then we won’t really look. We won’t really see. Seeing the truth, accepting the truth about yourself is the first step to making all the little changes moment to moment, day by day, from year to year, and throughout our lifetimes.

This was a phenomenal conversation to listen to. I was gripped the whole way through. Many thanks 🙏

A wonderful chat at this very sad time. ❤❤ 🙏.

I couldn't help but think about David Bohm's : Wholeness and the implicate order during this interview