“If they were just 100 feet higher” that one hurt😣

@killershark4121

4 жыл бұрын

That's his estimate.... The pilot lost control of the helicopter.... Even is he was "100" feet higher there would've been no difference

@kayshinay

4 жыл бұрын

but shouldn't he have studied his route before even stepping foot into the helicopter?? I would think you would have to study where you are going and think of the best routes to get to a place before taking that risk.

@sebar9673

4 жыл бұрын

100 feet is a lot fym just😂

@kolbyplays449

4 жыл бұрын

Anima Vestra yeah but that’s not a lot when you’re almost basically free falling that’s .2 seconds you’re talking 100 feet

@stevem2323

4 жыл бұрын

@@killershark4121 But if he did that 100 feet he wouldn't have lost control.

I learned more from this than all the news coverage combined.

@Lupasan

4 жыл бұрын

ASMR Critique literally

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Take a look at my latest video for even more information. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html including newly released ATC audio.

@forgottenson3411

4 жыл бұрын

Facts me too

@miraclisjohnson5858

4 жыл бұрын

The crash did not happen that way

@zacharygarrett9299

4 жыл бұрын

so true

As a master helicopter pilot with over 100 years of experience, I can say with confidence that this crash would not have occurred if they hadn't gotten so close to the ground.

@13XDyt

Жыл бұрын

as a cloud, i agree

@omairtech6711

Жыл бұрын

You have over 100 years of experience? Wait, what?

@Youllpayforthat

Жыл бұрын

@@omairtech6711 😴

@casedistorted

Жыл бұрын

lol

@omairtech6711

Жыл бұрын

By the way, there were no helicopters in 1923(100 years ago). Helis were invented in the 50's.

This is a classic lesson to pilots of all experience to never become complacent. I was once told "this is the first time you have flown this flight", which basically means no matter how experienced you are what unfolds today is still something new. I always treated the airspeed during landing and the artificial horizon during instrument flight as things critical to life, because they are. Lastly, we must be aware of pilot workload and identify moments when our workload is increased. So, if we know we are turning our attention to navigation, we must realise that our attention on critical issues will now be impaired.

As a Helo pilot with 52 years and 28,000 hours experience I’ve seen this same scenario occur so many times yet pilots continue to put themselves into these situations

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

I am hoping that my videos will help one pilot make a different decision than they would have otherwise. You may find this new video which includes new ATC communications interesting: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

@eue4127

4 жыл бұрын

So what would've been the best maneuver to do? I'm not asking to blame anyone or something like that, I'm just interested ^^

@Bettyboop08

4 жыл бұрын

@@eue4127 I think he's saying don't fly in these conditions, it's not worth the risk at all.

@annsanimationaddiction8024

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bettyboop08 I'm a student pilot not for a heli but for a SEL plane. When you go into IMC, you can't even feel if you're diving, spinning, etc. You lose all sense of orientation, and thus must focus on your instruments to guide you, as well as NOT FLYING LOW in these conditions. I'm so sure Kobe would have wanted to fly low to show off lol.

@hajo3322

4 жыл бұрын

Anna Richards don’t say lol

I love how everyone in the comments are trained pilots

@benfaircloth9660

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you I was thinking the same thing

@connorsgoated5403

4 жыл бұрын

fr smh typical

@mauricioibarra701

4 жыл бұрын

KZread is the place where all the pros and experts come together to share their knowledge.

@themilehighguy1119

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing. Everyone giving their expert opinion and obviously have zero experience.

@ratskate9951

4 жыл бұрын

Armchair pilots

Nobody on board knew they were about to die except the pilot who for a second or two got to see the side of the mountain. Cant imagine how jawbreakingly scary those two seconds felt for the pilot and to the others on board i hope they didn’t suffer

@Blox117

Жыл бұрын

the basketball american didnt bounce

@sweetdeemdd9678

Жыл бұрын

Jaw breaking is an understatement by you. Kobe’s brain exited his skull according to autopsy; a bit more than jaw breaking!

@mikel9567

Жыл бұрын

@@sweetdeemdd9678 No his brain did not exit his skull. Read the actual report before you post nonsense www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Celebs/bryant,%20kobe_report.pdf

@ClintWestVood

Жыл бұрын

check out the autopsy of kobe. they for sure didnt die slow

@jacksevert3099

Жыл бұрын

Kobe forced the pilot to fly in bad conditions. Why is no one talking about this? Is this a cover up?

As someone who didn’t really follow the story when it happened, I had pictured that the helicopter was flying in a straight line with a slight dip and just plowed straight into the mountain they thought they were above. The reconstruction here really demonstrates how much low visibility can mess with your sense of direction/orientation when you don’t pay attention to the instruments.

@stevencondas2281

Жыл бұрын

Spatial disorientation is a dangerous phenomenon. Here a video shows how easy it is to become disoriented when you don't see the attitude indicator and you can't see the ground out the window: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6OatdanYq65k8o.html . In that video, the pilot is flying while his head is covered and the attitude indicator is turned off, and he gets completely disoriented. He is trying to fly straight and level, thinks he might be banking to the right, and is actually banking to the left and descending. My follow -on video clearly shows that the N72EX pilot was disoriented: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

Man.. for that split second when they finally saw the side of the mountain right before impact, that shit had to have been breathtakingly terrifying. RIP Everyone on board 🕊

@hanjizoe2648

4 жыл бұрын

@PARK stfu

@jakobdesmit

4 жыл бұрын

Hanji Zoe hes not lying

@jakobdesmit

4 жыл бұрын

PARK but there’s no reason for saying this this is youtube

@apocgoob

4 жыл бұрын

PARK religion is a myth made up by mankind to give reason to prosper. after death it all goes black. there is no god.

@RadgalRiah

4 жыл бұрын

Wavyy Mochy Sooo you died before and came back to say all this?

Ugh. I think the most frustrating part of this is 100 feet and they would have been clear.

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@kathleendelaney1053

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@gailtaylor1636

4 жыл бұрын

Actually no. He had lost control of the aircraft. Can't fly a helicopter very far when it's upside down. His mistake was not slowing down and watching attitude indicator while climbing slowly to get out if the soup. Then contact ATC and let them steer him to a place to land.

@fotografiasromero

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. Other pilots who flew that say above the clouds all say it was much higher. Also you dont get into clouds in without instruments. They were doomed long before they climbed. That was just a desperation last ditch attempt to save themselves.

@fotografiasromero

4 жыл бұрын

@@gailtaylor1636 slowing down an aircraft is worst. It stalls out faster and that helicopter was not made to go slow.

i use to get pissed when we would attend a flight briefing an hour before our flights. I would always say these dudes fly all the time lets just load up and go. The flight engineer and pilots would always go over the numbers (flight time, personnel, fuel, and training). Hearing about Kobe and learning about recent crashes from military helicopters has made me appreciate all the pre-checks and numbers the pilots and flight engineer put in! thank you 🙏🏽

Excellent recreation. I could never understand why anyone would get into a vehicle, car or aircraft, when they can’t see anything out the window. I drove my car in bad fog trying to get home. It was terrifying.

@stevencondas2281

Жыл бұрын

For what it's worth, when they took off they could see outside the window. They didn't hit zero visibility until they got near Calabasas.

@sophiah7995

23 күн бұрын

You said that you can’t understand why anyone would choose to do that but in the next sentence mention that you yourself have driven in bad fog before because you wanted to get home lol. so i don’t know what the superiority complex is about 😅

The part where you showed how there was no visibility gave me so much anxiety, I can’t imagine how scared they must have been :(

@tylerkimdura6690

4 жыл бұрын

Omg ikr

@peytonlengacher

4 жыл бұрын

ur mom kid if you can’t see that’s not normal

@tylerkimdura6690

4 жыл бұрын

ur mom kid Well the pilot probably didn’t think he was flying normally.

@michaelscardino8614

4 жыл бұрын

@@peytonlengacher not being able to see is very common. People fly IFR all the time.

@jerrypalmer9163

4 жыл бұрын

They are trained to fly that way usually... this guy was a veteran pilot... there is still no way to know why he was unable to fly through the clouds...

Honest to God I thought he was re-creating it in GTA 5

@shaneequa7258

4 жыл бұрын

Imma do it

@jumpmantakeflight

4 жыл бұрын

same lol

@SomeGuy-fl1gz

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like los Santos

@johnwilksbooth2832

4 жыл бұрын

Same bro

@BiffyTheFox

3 жыл бұрын

@Gabriel Godina Are you stupid? I didn't make a joke. And I said an honest opinion about who I thought he was recreating this accident in a game.

This is why spacial awareness is crucial. It was the pilot's fault for not paying attention to where he was going. As soon as you lose visibility you focus on the instruments.

I would like to sincerely thank you from the bottom of my heart for clarifying and enhancing the video of the horrific crash and subsequent agonizing death of Kobe Bryant. God bless you!

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. You may also be interested in my follow-on video with additional ATC communications that I obtained from the FAA: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

He never realized that he had dropped hundreds of feet so quickly a sign of sure vertigo. It happens in military all the time. 20yrs. 101AA CWO4 avionics specialist.

@novles6262

4 жыл бұрын

You know he just had to look at the altitude and they would have been alright

@IAmMeat1

4 жыл бұрын

ur mom kid shut up u kid

@Fidelx111

4 жыл бұрын

ur mom kid exactly 🤦🏽‍♀️

@colossebdumont879

4 жыл бұрын

@@novles6262 think about what he did, to put it better and in a way that you''l understand, it's like being on a highway with a very slight turn to the right, you're in the left lane, and you look at the GPS trying to configure it for just a bit too long. You'll see the railing you're going straight into only milliseconds before impact, nothing you could do.

@novles6262

4 жыл бұрын

@@itsvenatiic-8957 yo that want a mistake man sadly

I don't care how experienced that pilot was...It only takes one time to make such a huge mistake, and it's over.. His experience should have guided him to just turn around and go back before he got them all into that mess. This was senseless and completely avoidable.

@foot33843

4 жыл бұрын

He made a beginner's mistake which makes me question his experience for real!!!!

@LebronJames-bj3yu

4 жыл бұрын

Foot soldier it happens man. Unfortunate for him and Kobe and everyone in the helicopter Rip Kobe Gianna and the victims

@wendyfiolek5914

4 жыл бұрын

It makes me angry that the pilot flew in such horrible weather conditions. This accident could have so easily been avoided. What made him think he could fly with such poor visibility? He was completely irresponsible. I would never ever fly in a helicopter, but Inwoukd have never gotten on a helicopter with those poor weather conditions. I don’t care how experienced the pilot was. 😡😡😢

@wendyfiolek5914

4 жыл бұрын

Kobe said he had 8,000 hours under his belt and that he trusted him.

@isaackid

4 жыл бұрын

The pilot was flying VFR ( Visual Flight Rules) which means he has permission to fly in those conditions but he chose not to go IFR ( Instrument Flight Rules) . He should’ve waited until the fog passed but as always there’s always a cover up and a hidden agenda to the story.

I saw this when it came out but I’m here on the 1 year anniversary of their deaths rip Kobe his daughter and the others 🕊💜💛 rest in Peace

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's hard to believe that it has been a year, and I feel sad for all of the families who were impacted. FYI, if you haven't already seen it, I created a follow-on that includes additional ATC communications. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

If you read all of their autopsy reports and factor in the speed in which the human brain can receive and digest information, they didn't think or feel a thing.

@rebeccareyes405

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, on another video you can hear the pilot's voice in a very calm demeaner and in control, he never sounded in distress, I don't think he knew he was descending himself...

@Elias-xh8xm

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccareyes405 goes to show that there are way too many dogsht pilots out there

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elias-xh8xm spill

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

their brain was still in tact? how much of them was left?

@bobbywoods684

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjan2383 There was a body trunk or two intact with no heads, arms or legs, but mostly they were torn to shreds. What I meant was that even if a full brain had been intact, their deaths were so violent and so sudden that their brains could not process the information fast enough to know what's happening before death occurs. Couple that with a lack of situational knowledge (everything seemed ok) and they never knew what happened.

Im not going to agree with y’all ! keep saying the pilot killed them . HE COULDNT SEE EITHER . Like he died too . Y’all have to understand that !

@kylanhunt201

4 жыл бұрын

SharpGrain VLOGS lmfaooo , gtfo “Karen” .😘

@kylanhunt201

4 жыл бұрын

Prehistoric Spongebob no since at all .💀😭

@yungboomer6467

4 жыл бұрын

Prehistoric Spongebob that was one of the worst analogies ever. I cringed reading that.

@l0ver526

4 жыл бұрын

Fr it wasn’t the pilots fault idk why so many people are saying “iT iS tHe pIolt faUlT “when it wasn’t the pilot couldn’t see anything any there was nothing he could do the pilot died as well. people in the comments are acting like they are professional or something

@l0ver526

4 жыл бұрын

SharpGrain VLOGS clearly doesn’t know the definition of Karen

Imagine how scary it would be not knowing if you're climbing or falling and then moments before impact you see that you're literally diving towards the ground. RIP.

@colin-nekritz

3 жыл бұрын

Wat? No, it's not scary, nobody in the back of the helicopter knew anything then they crashed dying instantly.

@Piaseczno1

3 жыл бұрын

I would have lost my tummy the very moment I didn't know whether I'm right side up. It happens to me in whiteouts, whether I'm driving in severe snowfall or briefly airborne on skis. I'd never pass a SEAL test.

@Elias-xh8xm

3 жыл бұрын

@@colin-nekritz and now they are all rottting in hell

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

not scary bc like 2 seconds later they dead

@dumbshitfuckmeteorite

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elias-xh8xm no u

Steve, thanks for your time in creating this. It's great to have some perspective and understanding around what happened.

It’s absolutely insane this was already 3 years ago. Feels like I was walking out to my car reading the headline on my phone just last year

It sends chills down my spine thinking about how scared they would have been.

@kazuhira9489

4 жыл бұрын

Spazzmat Studios if the pilot didn’t notice then most likely they didn’t either. I’m pretty sure it happened faster than they could react

@demetriousstephens1998

4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t see it coming bro 😞 that’s the scarier part 💔

@Pwn3dbyth3n00b

4 жыл бұрын

@@kazuhira9489 The pilot didnt didnt notice visibly but your body definitely can feel that drop in altitude. They all probably felt it like a drop of a roller coaster but by the time they could have possibly process the feeling that they were falling they'd be dead already.

@IonnnLayy

4 жыл бұрын

LAN Evo shut tf up

@kencelsior6220

4 жыл бұрын

Ionnn. Layy they were happy

Keri, John, Sarah, Christina, Ara, Gigi, Kobe, Alyssa and Payton (all the people lost on the helicopter)

@allmyhomiesk2509

4 жыл бұрын

Who tf asked

@amax615

4 жыл бұрын

@@allmyhomiesk2509 sym bro

@imatsoup5304

4 жыл бұрын

All my homies K stfu

@TwoToneX

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO who did ask??

@TwoToneX

4 жыл бұрын

@@allmyhomiesk2509 😂😂😂

RIP to Kobe Bryant, Gianna Bryant, Payton Chester, 13; Sarah Chester, 45; Alyssa Altobelli, 14; Keri Altobelli, 46; John Altobelli, 56; Christina Mauser, 38; and the helicopter's pilot, Ara Zobayan, 50.

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

50? that explains a lot

Amazing work reconstructing the crash - very terrifying

So close 100 feet. That really bothers me.

@danielfronc4304

4 жыл бұрын

As the British say, " In for a penny, in for a pound.", ie. whether the pilot was 10 feet or a thousand feet too low the outcome would've been the same. F.Y.I. - In the pilot's last recertification test or practice he had flunked one part of it. Want to guess which one? Yep. Flying under poor visibility.

@momitch62

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Fronc god damn.

@PamelaTaylor

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielfronc4304 trying to be slick and it cost everyone

@marcosgerardonieves9560

4 жыл бұрын

Yes so close and maybe they would have been alive may there souls rest in peace

@youaremylifepictures4680

4 жыл бұрын

Even if the hill wasn't there, they would've crashed anyway.

i don’t know why there are so many dislikes, he’s giving us answers to our many questions

@JayGrayRaven

4 жыл бұрын

Because its fucking tastless and turns Kobe's tragedy into a fucking project for profit.

@gem--atria9574

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Quiroz your stupid

@abutterfly1351

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Quiroz This is quite literally information, and you twisted it into a narrative that could be seen as offensive somehow. I'm fucking disgusted at my 9th grade geography teacher then, because she was just clearly exploiting my mind by projecting a map of planet Earth into my brain for her own benefit.

@loke2144

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Quiroz Ehh shut up

@teo.took.40.benadryl

4 жыл бұрын

1.6 dislikes and 3M views? There is always dislikes.

I had 20 hours of small plane flight experience and I still vividly remember my instructor demonstrating how disorientated you could get in a clouds, for example not realize you were in a turn or oriented funny and you need to watch your instruments.

@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx

Жыл бұрын

Classic spiral dive in IMC. This exact scenario has killed more people than the FAA can count.

If the pilot thought he was climbing and had no sensation he was going down, its fair to assume that everyone on the plane had no clue and where not holding each other screaming. They were probably just talking and suddenly lights out. If that's how it happened, at least no one suffered, no pain....its like one minute you are this world famous basketball player who is admire by millions, and in a blink of an eye you become history....like you were never here.

@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx

Жыл бұрын

Classic Spiral Dive accident, nobody on board knew they were crashing until the last second.

The helicopter should never have taken off, I don’t think that’s an overstatement. RIP Kobe.

@Fidelx111

4 жыл бұрын

Johnny Roberts agreed

@dirtynikesocks6405

4 жыл бұрын

Ya know Kobe gotta go extra showing up to a basketball game

@duckonquack6535

4 жыл бұрын

@@dirtynikesocks6405 wtf

@TwoToneX

4 жыл бұрын

@@dirtynikesocks6405 facts kobe need to flex his shit make the kids cheer as he landed

@dirtynikesocks6405

4 жыл бұрын

Geezy i know but even when his car showed up there would be a crowd, and which is safer, a car.... during a cloudy, foggy day.

Incredible to think that this pilot was actually a CFII (instrument instructor) with ~13,000 hours. His daily life at some point involved teaching new students how to fly in the EXACT conditions in which he got disoriented and unfortunately caused this tragic accident. It’s scary how powerful complacency can be when combined with VFR-into-IMC induced spatial disorientation.

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, it is hard to believe. I have a better timeline in my May update kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html. In that update it appears that the helicopter is in a controlled climb from about 17:44:30 to 17:45:08. Then the helicopter enters a significant left turn and (I haven't published this yet) flies a flight path that produces exactly 1g into the seat (as though the pilot is flying by the seat of his pants). At about 17:45:22 the pilot notifies ATC that he intends to climb to 4000 feet, when the helicopter is in fact descending. That suggests that the pilot is disoriented and that for at least 12 seconds he didn't look at the attitude indicator. Difficult to believe. What could have distracted him for so long?

@rogueldr642smiythe9

Жыл бұрын

My opinion he trained others only did not fly Instruments on occasion. And “forgot” to fly the aircraft.

@Xen0morph075

Жыл бұрын

@@stevencondas2281 New aircraft maybe? What was his hours on that type of aircraft? If less, then it would take some time to enter the MCDU (computer) not to mentioned the level of stress. That's why it is better to have 2 pilots. One flying, one Pilot monitoring (or assist key in the input of the computer).

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

Drivers make the same mistakes, too. You get comfortable with it, get distracted one day, or the visibility is low, and next thing you know a deer goes through your windshield or you look down to grab something on the floorboard and look up to see you're in front of a semi. It happens.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

@@stevencondas2281 One thing that distracted him was the confused ATC controller asking him to ident. That along in a high stress workload might have taken him 6 seconds to process and a couple of seconds to carry out. The ATC controller asked him this at the worst possible moment.

The left and down theory on the joystick is probably what it did it. I don't think the pilot realized they were going left and down, because there was no visibility and he was confused. When the chopper got out of the fog to see the mountain, it was too late because they were moving over 100mph. RIP Mamba forever

Outstanding reconstruction, very well done.

@stevencondas2281

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! You might also be interested in my follow-on reconstruction which I time aligned to audio I obtained from the FAA : kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

That Sunday was so gloomy and depressing. Something bad was bound to happen

@RJ_824

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i said "man it's foggy as hell" before the breaking news happened

@dathunderman4

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember being in LA on my last year of college. My school holds a special connection w/ Kobe because although he never went there he apparently used to come all the time to practice on the same courts us students play on (UCLA). My roommate woke me up in the morning and broke me the news. I think it’s gonna be those moments where everyone remembers where they were when it happened, especially for those living in LA at the time

@gioblic

4 жыл бұрын

I broke my Knee Cap that same time of the helicopter crash 😣

@RJ_824

4 жыл бұрын

@@gioblic dam doing what

@gioblic

4 жыл бұрын

RJ Basketball

This indicates to me that there's a better chance that they only suffered a few seconds if at all. I hope they never saw the ground coming since it was so quick.

@certifiedchaos4643

4 жыл бұрын

Seems that way because cause of death was blunt force trauma

@karenkramer3760

4 жыл бұрын

@@certifiedchaos4643 Yes I know once they hit the mountain it was instant death. But I had always wondered if they knew they were falling to their death. With this video it showed there was about 2-3 seconds of the ground in view before the crash. Hopefully not enough time to even process what was going to happen

@wendyfiolek5914

4 жыл бұрын

I have hoped that too. That it was quick and they didn’t know what was happening. I would hate to think that they knew what was coming. May the all Rest In Peace. So heartbreaking for the families.

@certifiedchaos4643

4 жыл бұрын

Karen Kramer yea exactly if anything they were told to buckle up because it a maneuver coming. I don’t think they saw death coming

@lululemon0424

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the same thing. Especially, they didn't sit in the cockpit, the chance for them to know what was going on is pretty slim. That's the only relief we can have from this tragedy. The speed of the impact was abt 250 km/s I heard, it was abt the same to the neuron transmission, it might mean that the signal of death never gets to Kobes brain and his subconscious entered into the infinity loop, another dimension if there is.

Can't imagine what they felt as this crash was happening. So sorry. I pray it was quick

I honestly find this video absurdly educational. I was dying to know how such a thing could’ve ever happened under normal circumstances.

Can't imagine how they felt. I feel anxious when in car with fog that strong. Devastating 😔

@the2kgvdz182

4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t see it coming

@MrKelso82

4 жыл бұрын

@@the2kgvdz182 Sorry, but he didnt mean that. They could obviously notice the thick fog( and this gave them bad feelings, felt the danger. The guy said he is anxious even in a car in that kind if fog.

@rhythmearthmusic

4 жыл бұрын

They had no idea it was about to happen. That’s how low the visibility was.

@sydneyc3259

4 жыл бұрын

Rhythm Earth I don’t think you guys understand what she is trying to say. Not that they knew they were going to die but that thick fog is scary. If you ever have drove in it. Very unsafe feeling and I’m sure they felt it

@Antman_9602

4 жыл бұрын

Kobe more like deadbe

Why keep flying if you can’t see anything???

@wendyfiolek5914

4 жыл бұрын

I know. It was such a careless and irresponsible thing to do.

@Voiceforthevoicelesspodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Now we're all left with what if ? What could've happened if he the pilot turned back. They would be alive today. I seen many comments that said Kobe pressured him into flying that day. But they talked to another pilot who used to fly him and he said Kobe's number one thing was safety

@gdlady9064

4 жыл бұрын

My point exactly. i just can’t understand why was the pilot still traveling at a high speed if at some point he couldn’t see anything anymore ? 🤔 Excuse my ignorance I’m just trying to understand. Perhaps he just didn’t have time 🤷🏽‍♀️

@carolsanders3979

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone has their Theory but no one knows what the pilot was thinking or about ready to do nobody was in that helicopter but those people that died that day so no matter how much you try to figure out why how come what if it was it happened it was their time .

@Voiceforthevoicelesspodcast

4 жыл бұрын

@@gdlady9064 that's true. It probably was so fast and a split second decision by then it was too late if he realized he wasn't clear all the way through

It really doesn't matter how many years or how many hours you have logged. When you lose that spatial orientation (which can happen at ANY moment) due to darkness or fog, you better be able to fly by instrumentation or you are screwed.

@cardinalRG

11 ай бұрын

Well said. Unfortunately, many instrument rated pilots lose proficiency through lack of practice, complacency or other factors. For his total hours, the accident pilot's experience in actual instrument conditions was paltry.

I feel like a dog asking this question, but I am not a mathematician, with a specialty in physics. With deepest respect to those who lost their lives, and their families and loved ones remaining, I've never been able to figure out how the final resting places of some of the victims happened. Gianna and one of her teammates came to rest northwest of the wreckage, almost parallel to each other, but some distance apart. Kobe came to rest almost immediately outside of the fuselage, as well as another female adult few ft north of him, while two passengers, one of the young players and the defense coach remained trapped inside. The father who was the baseball coach came to rest almost at a 90 degree angle left of the fuselage, but several feet away, then the pilot, still strapped in his seat maybe 80 degrees to the right of the fuselage several feet away up a slight embankment. Previous reenactments around the time of the accident, accounting for the witness view of the underside of the helo, positioned the helo upside down, as opposed to this scenario of a high bank position on its left side at impact. If so, I think the girls must have been ejected from the craft prior to impact. I am not a pilot, nor engineer; however, I do have 30 years' of experience of taking the testimonies of experts and others in the reconstruction of accidents involving different modes of transportation. The pilo comment referenced in the video of the possibility of altering somehow the controls when he leaned left is sound. It happens more often than you think. The operator drops something in a car, reaches down to pick it up, unintentionally putting pressure on the gas pedal, or rudder of a plane. It's speculation that may have been an associated cause of the accident with John Denver; when he reached behind him to try to switch gas tanks, he put pressure on his right foot. Sadly, in both of these cases, neither pilot or aircraft should have been in the air thos horrible days, and not because they are celebrities. John's license was revoked, and flying conditions using only vfr were unsafe, which was the only condition this helo was certified to operate.

@cardinalRG

2 жыл бұрын

Well said about inadvertent control inputs. One of the most important sj=kills a pilot should learn is lightness on the controls, especially in rough air and low/zero visibility.

All the “should’ve, could’ve, would’ve” in the world won’t be bring 3 teenage girls and 6 adults back. RIP everyone aboard that helicopter 🚁 Let me clarify what I mean, because I’m being attacked for this post for weeks now: I feel like everyone is misinterpreting my comment. It was simply a lament on my part. Simply my expression of how sad and senseless I feel about the whole damn thing. No need to attack me.

@adeniyiibitoye2850

4 жыл бұрын

Renee H no it won’t but it will give us closure we need. Because this “could’ve” of been avoided

@michellecarrington6

4 жыл бұрын

No it won't. But, if it helps in TRAINING other pilots that OTHER lives will be spared, then it's worth their time they put in. When we KNOW better, we DO BETTER!

@adeniyiibitoye2850

4 жыл бұрын

Monique Knew the pilot was experienced. The issue was allowing him to fly in a fog and not having the right safety checks beforehand

@michellecarrington6

4 жыл бұрын

@@adeniyiibitoye2850 👍 Yes, the existing fog should have NOT allowed them to even go up in the first place. But what happens when the fog happens AFTER they are ALREADY up? Maybe there is SOMETHING that can be learned from the unfortunate mistakes here so they won't ever be repeated. 😥

@adeniyiibitoye2850

4 жыл бұрын

Monique Knew agreed! Anything is possible and we need to prepare for it. The pilot was experienced but may not have experience in a fog. Breaks me to see a icon like Kobe die in a he most unthinkable way ever. All of this could have been prevented. Even loss the daughters and another coach/ father

Great work. I was in the airline business for 35 years, lost several friends in crashes, and my dad was a private pilot almost all of his life. These details always interest me. Thanks for sharing your private investigations.

@sniperwolf7199

4 жыл бұрын

What your name

@rachaelbly6714

4 жыл бұрын

Seeing details of someone’s death is interesting? Fucking gross dude.

@naejohnson778

4 жыл бұрын

@@rachaelbly6714 I don't think that's what they meant DUDE.

@gavinoctavien1400

4 жыл бұрын

Rachael Bly u sound ridiculous for taking this person’s comment out of context

This was sad to watch...thanks for trying to share their last moments with us. Appreciate it.

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. You may also be interested in my follow on video which has ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

I bet this gets used in a documentary in a few years, great work

It could had been avoided 😭

@NotebookLives

4 жыл бұрын

Very much so...

@jhstashy1027

4 жыл бұрын

I believe all this happens for a reason

@ruins4

4 жыл бұрын

@@jhstashy1027 yeah the *fog*

@TheK2TheC479

4 жыл бұрын

Hindsight is 20/20

@MS-hl4dr

4 жыл бұрын

anything could have been avoided. it’s just how the universe is. No going back anymore.

1. Aviate 2. Navigate 3. Communicate He overloaded himself the entire flight.

@Fidelx111

4 жыл бұрын

captaingordon well said

@katana5562

3 жыл бұрын

captaingordon This type of helicopter never should be flewn by just one pilot. Period.

@davidkey6145

3 жыл бұрын

VFR expert in IFR.

@TrillMatic187

3 жыл бұрын

No. He shouldn't have even lifted off....

@biohead66

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrillMatic187 This!

Great work. I flew over that area in Aerofly FS2 in VR and put visibility to zero. It was just like you showed form the cockpit. Freaked me the hell out. No way I would have continued forward flight in those conditions.

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You may also be interested in my follow-on version with additional ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

It was his time to go onto another life and experience his next love.. And now his life had fulfil his dreams and goals, it was already done. Link this to his goodbye basketball letter. he knew his journey and life goal was over, he's somewhere again giving his all for the next goal he has. GO KOBE!❤

He probably didnt realize how close the hills were.

@aduzzy8075

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Whitaker yeah that’s what i’m thinking, it was so foggy that day he didn’t realize that he was going straight into a hill..

@AnthonyParsons-yg7xp

4 жыл бұрын

@@aduzzy8075 I'm thinkin' he was drunk!

@philliplawson9724

4 жыл бұрын

@@aduzzy8075 it's his job to know

@ayolaipo

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Whitaker, i think youre the reincarnation of Sherlock

@pwhit59

4 жыл бұрын

@@ayolaipo 🤔😉

Remember we have backgrounds on JFK Jr's airplane crash in 1999 and Air France's Flight 447 in 2009, among others. Bad weather is a true factor of possible erratic reactions and spatial disorientation. Pilots, please don't defy bad weather, mother nature is wise.

@bnegs521

4 жыл бұрын

Air France 447 was pilot error of controls not disorientation.

@TheUnsilentMajorityBigmo-ev8sr

4 жыл бұрын

JR was murdered by the Clinton’s

That morning was incredibly cloudy. I’m surprised they let them take off.

170 mph in fog, that is very strange for the pilot to go that fast in those conditions.

@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx

Жыл бұрын

In a spiral dive the aircraft basically accelerate to freefall, if the pilot is not scanning the six pack and is pulling back on the stick then this feels like level flight inside the aircraft. It's insidious, because your senses will trick you very easily.

I was one of the mountain bikers that came across the scene. It was myself and 2 hikers. We tried to look for survivors but there was nothing but pieces. I am an instrument rated pilot as well and I can tell you I would not have been flying on that day. Clouds were very low. The search and rescue Helicopter even had a hard time finding the site.

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

It is possible that your claim to be one of the bikers is legit, but I don't see anything in your KZread profile that suggests your are a pilot or a mountain biker. Can you PM me at deterspam-flight@yahoo.com so that I can authenticate your claim? Thx.

@FordSVT1313

3 жыл бұрын

Emailed.

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

I have corresponded with Blake_SVT and I believe their post is authentic.

@michaelflores9220

2 жыл бұрын

Do you reckon the leaked autopsy reports are fake?

@FordSVT1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelflores9220 No I dont think so, from everything I saw I could agree to most of it. Even saw the cops taking the pictures of bodies.

Whenever I watch videos related to this topic my heart beats so fast just thinking about what it must of been like to be on that helicopter . I wish they never went on that helicopter that day, so sad. Praying they didn't know what was coming. REST IN ETERNAL HEAVEN all of them . Sweet Angels . You will be dearly missed.

@bradbennett4237

4 жыл бұрын

They didn't even know they crashed. The impact at that speed, it was instant.

@prittyugly86

4 жыл бұрын

@@bradbennett4237 yeah the impact was instant death but making that left turn... if the mountain bike saw the belly of the helicopter all the passengers fell to the side of the doors. So terrible.

@Drew__Films

Жыл бұрын

@@prittyugly86 Someone said, "When you go into IMC, you can't even feel if you're diving, spinning, etc. You lose all sense of orientation, and thus must focus on your instruments to guide you, as well as NOT FLYING LOW in these conditions" I hope this is true because I can't imagine the fear they would have felt..

Oh my god I just realized that I used to live like a couple of miles away from where this happened. I can literally see my old house in the recreation at 0:57 that's insane I never knew.

Man this is pretty impressive dude

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for kind words! You may also be interested in my follow on video with ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

All other helicopters were grounded due to the fog. So sad they didn't take head and found alternative for travel 💔😩😭

@mssha1980

4 жыл бұрын

This isn’t true

@angiechaverria4996

4 жыл бұрын

IT'S TRUE

@phillynative2884

4 жыл бұрын

Bradley Elliott police should’ve advised everyone

@renalopez6672

4 жыл бұрын

You guys the reason why they had clearance to fly was bcz Kobe's helicopter was a sikorsky s-76. Which has turboshaft twin engines and are big tanks equivalent to a small private jet. They carry up to 13 passengers. LAPD helicopters don't even compare. However it's ultimately the Pilot's responsibility to make the safest decision.

@captainkirk2502

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, bunch of idiots

Wow. :\ My heart dropped watching this seeing the animated plane going down, just imagining how terrified everyone was during those final moments. My god :(

@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet

4 жыл бұрын

This is X Plane 11 btw.

@sebastianrm1973

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a plane

@macnate1237

4 жыл бұрын

@@sebastianrm1973 No one cares. :)

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

It's a helicopter, not a plane. No one was terrified. They couldn't see anything. In a fog like that, the passengers, as well as the pilots, had no idea they were descending. They thought they were climbing.

@BinHeadRobot

Жыл бұрын

@@ko7577 bro the comment was 3 years ago let it go

Ok you are a genius. Brain crush!! I love it how you show us your process. I don’t think many people realize how difficult it is to do this. Keep it up I am subscribing.

@stevencondas2281

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! You may be interested in my follow up video with time synchronized ATC communications: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html . I am now investigating the MU5735 crash, and here is some early work (read the video description for details) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6mHyZOil8rUZrw.html

This reconstruction is a slam dunk!

Thank you for the time you put into making this video. I think I speak for everyone when I say we greatly appreciate it.

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I can't take this anymore. Love you Kobe 💕

Jesus. Basically the pilot couldn't see a single thing and his perception got all mixed up thinking he's going one direction, but was going all the way down to the ground

@stevencondas2281

Жыл бұрын

Yes. That is even clearer in my follow on video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

@gricius

Жыл бұрын

@@stevencondas2281 great work. Thank you

Informative. Thank you. R.i.p. to Kobe, Gigi, and the others in that crash...

I will never fly in a helicopter after what happened to Kobe.

@justinm1319

4 жыл бұрын

daniel7899999 unfortunately my job requires me too

@sydneyc3259

4 жыл бұрын

daniel7899999 helicopters are completely safe. It was the weather that caused this. A bad judgment and should of never flown

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006

4 жыл бұрын

@@sydneyc3259 No mode* of transportation is completely safe, ESPECIALLY helicopters

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006

4 жыл бұрын

@Abu Mansaray Only if you're incompetent and don't pay attention

@10kirneh

4 жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Not really, there are so many ways to die in traffic that are completely out of your control.

1:07 my whole body just tensed up seeing the visibility like that

@TwoToneX

4 жыл бұрын

Mine didn't

@Aki-bp7kk

4 жыл бұрын

You claustrophobic?

@shaestewart5054

3 жыл бұрын

Fairly common on IFR flights

@Elias-xh8xm

3 жыл бұрын

Snowflake

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

literally all he had to do was keep going up

I flew single engine as a VFR- only pilot for 22 years. The cause of this tragic accident was pretty clear from early on. A classic case of what we call “VFR into IMC” and the spatial disorientation it caused the pilot so that he lost control. Truly, truly, sad….

@stevencondas2281

3 жыл бұрын

Your conclusion is substantiated in my follow-on video with complete ATC recordings: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

@james11h

Жыл бұрын

What’s the correct thing to do in this situation where you suddenly lose all visibility in proximity to terrain? Would there have been enough time to stop and hover?

As a pilot if your in a cloud where you can’t see due to clouds you can’t use your normal senses like vison and so forth where no meant to be flying you have to rely on your instruments and instruments only why didn’t he pay attention to his altimeter

Thanks for posting, good work. Juan

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I've seen your work and your comment means a lot. You might be interested in my latest video which has some new ATC comms I got from the FAA: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5N40s9qZJexiNI.html

Long story short Rip to everyone involved my condolences to all families

@davidmcdonald9412

4 жыл бұрын

Mamba.for.life

Went out with a final slam dunk

Sad part is, the pilot was probably panicking once he lost visibility. Definitely knew it was a gamble that point whether he'd land the damn thing or not.

Ugh if he would’ve just flew up about another 100 feet he’d be out of the clouds...that’s f’n mind boggling. This whole thing is just beyond heart breaking and this NEVER should’ve happened!!! I’m just speechless...

@JP-bg8ui

4 жыл бұрын

Could layer can vary a lot apparently. So at the exact location the helicopter was in it could have been a couple of hundred feet from breaking out.

@ghostdtx

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently he tried to climb above and shoot down quickly to shove the clouds out of the way. It was a buffer system to clear. Smh

@fotografiasromero

4 жыл бұрын

Let's stop with the 100 feet comment. They were doomed the second he went into the clouds. Flying into clouds in VFR is a death sentence.

@dynastigabrielle8080

4 жыл бұрын

Enerio Romero well wouldn’t that mean it was a suicide mission since he was so “experienced” ?

It’s so good that we have this much information on what happened. There’s some deaths that go unsolved, so this is good.

@khaughy

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJ-pj8aifa67oKw.html rip Kobe :(

As a pilot of 15 years on COD, this is very accurate with the vantage points of the current along the vessel of the wing shifts. Due to the duration of time and the thickness of fog, the end result was inevitable. Sadness as it may seem, they went out quickly and painlessly.

@g..._anthony27

7 ай бұрын

🍪🍪🍪

As a helicopter pilot who has over 26,000 years of experience i can say, the helicopter crashed.

If the pilot was indeed looking to his 'down and left' to configure the Honeywell Flight Management System, this would be very indicative of a term known as "target fixation." I used to Road Race motorcycles and "target fixation" was something you had to constantly fight against. Any racer will know what i'm talking about! When you're going at a high rate of speed, you will have a tendency to steer exactly where it is you are looking. ESPECIALLY in a turn. Which is why you are taught to look straight through a turn, through the apex, (the line). As pointed out here, in this mock crash simulation, if the the pilot was looking down and to his left, that's exactly where he would unknowingly start to steer, target fixation... In my early days as Marine crew chief, I spent a few thousand hours in the back of Helo's. H 53E's, UH1N Huey's, and CH-46 Sea Knights. Though i'm not a pilot, i was in constant radio contact with pilots and heard every word they said, and would often be standing right behind them during flight. We were often deployed aboard Navy vessels and spent many hours out at sea, which means flying in lots of fog! Though there are not as many obstacles to run into out at sea, you still have to avoid the water. I remember when we were in complete 'white out fog' the pilots would slow down our forward speed and rely heavily on instrumentation, namely that life saving ADI (attitude directional indicator). It's just like it sounds, it shows you the ATTITUDE of the aircraft. It tells you If you're flying level or not. But, like anything else, your craft has to have an operating ADI and you need to be well versed in its operation. If you're flying in fog and can't see, the ADI needs to be one of the things that has your immediate attention. It can assist in keeping you from flying into terrain. Helicopters are a slightly unstable craft to begin with, simply by design. It's like flying on a knife's edge. It is constantly affected by winds trying to topple it over or push it in one direction or another so it requires quite the touch to counteract these forces and keep it upright, more so than a plane. If you are going to pilot in fog, you had better be well practiced in it!!! The pilot in this case has been flying for a long time, how much of that time has he spent in 'fog like' conditions? I have no idea, but it's clear to me, in my amatuer opinion, that not being able to see where he was going seemed to put him into unfamiliar and uncomfortable territory. And it distracted him long enough, a few seconds is all it takes, and the craft went into a direction that he did not counter or account for and they flew, unwittingly, right into the hillside. It's easy for us to second guess and play armchair Monday morning quarterback as to what happened, we have the luxury of time to do that. The fact is that this accident was set into motion early in this flight by a series of 'human factors.' The final demise taking only seconds to play out. And if you have only seconds to try and save your life, you're going to need an incredibly ridiculous amount of luck!!! I am just not able to process his forward speed, a reported 185 knots or so, when you have zero visibility. He was truly lost, and so now they all share the same fate...May God watch over them and their loved ones.

@jamespatrick3462

4 жыл бұрын

Spatial disorientation. JFK jr and many others have fallen victim. People don't get when visual senses are disabled, the seat of the pants sense of up, down, left and right is disabled as well. The two leading causes of non commercial aviation crashes are CFT (Controlled flight into terrain) and running out of fuel ( usually miscalculated weight or windage which consumes more fuel than estimated)

@xela1816

4 жыл бұрын

I cant read all that summarizing would be better next time

@tima.478

4 жыл бұрын

uuummm, it's not required reading...

@xela1816

4 жыл бұрын

@@tima.478 get a job man

@millieoswin2015

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a damn novel. Seriously way too long. Try and summarize that shit a bit lol

This is heartbreaking in all ways.

Flying into IMC conditions can really mess up your sense of direction. I flew on helicopters for many years as a flight medic and there were a few times where we flew into IMC conditions and fortunately each time the pilots I was with knew how to get out of it safely.

With today’s software, recreations like this are a slam dunk

Thanks to the creator of this video. This is the first re-creation that didnt make me want the creator to die in their sleep.

@stevencondas2281

4 жыл бұрын

Made me laugh!

@dhornjr1

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is really good.

Makes sense to me. Better version from what I’ve been seeing lately.

@donnamegee6042

4 жыл бұрын

Ya

This is a classic classic VIP accident. Those VIP helicopter pilots never say no to the customer even if it means risking their lives.

4,000 FPM descent rate though? Man that pilot must've really not been paying attention. That kind of descent rate would turn your stomach. That's 66 feet per second.

We miss you Kobe and Gianna ❤️

@austindenotter19

4 жыл бұрын

You knew them?

@davex1300

4 жыл бұрын

So you dont care about the others involved that also lost there lives . ?

@jeffreymorse5968

4 жыл бұрын

Dave X this is unnecessary that’s obviously not what he meant those are just the first two that come to mind dick

@ditsokar4168

4 жыл бұрын

Hypocrite

This is preventable! The pilot should turn around or do emergency landing!!!

@alexshah7860

4 жыл бұрын

Ya, pilot was not an expert as people are suggesting.

@foot33843

4 жыл бұрын

I don't see his 20 years of experience I work offshore we fly out to the oil rigs and when I saw this I couldn't believe my eyes!!!!!

@qwertyzxcv123

4 жыл бұрын

The pilot probably trying to showboat

@Polamalu_

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you go it you would panic so you know it's always good to shut up

@soniabryant7401

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Joe Reyes yes!! 🥺

Interesting observation about being only 100ft from the cloud tops. Back in 2012 when I was learning to fly, the airport owner and an airbus pilot (doing a check ride in a twin engine piston plane) clipped a tree at the top of a hill during low visibility, causing the plane to cartwheel and explode with loss of both lives. The impact point on the tree suggested had they been 12-48" higher the aircraft would have been able to limp back safely. If in doubt, climb!

@cardinalRG

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

That idiot pilot completely messed up and caused the crash! I was one of the mountain bikers who stumbled upon the wreckage, along with two hikers, and we searched for survivors, but all we found were scattered pieces of the wreckage. Even though I'm an experienced, instrument-rated pilot myself, I wouldn't have flown in such low clouds. It's clear that the pilot's irresponsible actions caused this tragedy, and it's an absolute outrage! The search and rescue helicopter even struggled to locate the crash site.

@cardinalRG

Жыл бұрын

Well said. It's unseemly how many people in these comments sections try to blame a passenger (Bryant) for a pilot's mistakes. I'm a (retired) pilot myself, and while I've made mistakes in the air--who hasn't?--they were always within margins of safety. I'll never understand pilots who fly to the margin's edge deliberately, and leave themselves little or no room for error.

That’s the saddest thing about life. We can become proficient at things with dangerous elements like driving or flying and do it tens of thousands of times, but all it takes is one lapse of judgement in a moment to end your life. All we can do is manage and reduce the risks where we can! Prayers up for all the lives lost and their families 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾.

Imagine if there was no fog that day

as a veteran helicopter pilot with approximately 57000 hours of flight time, i can say, with confidence, that the aircraft wouldn’t have crashed if it had stayed in the air and avoided a collision with the ground.

Wow Thankyou for this vid ❤❤

RIP everyone who passed in that crash. Nobody matter anymore than another❤️

@kimilaadubois9416

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@anubisizzy

3 жыл бұрын

Someone with a heart. not just ohhh kobe my favorite, i swear just saw a comment saying" oh just if crona hapend before he died which would mean more people dead the under stupidity.

@jalonstamps6719

3 жыл бұрын

@@anubisizzy your right now I know COVID actually was discovered in late 2019

@joshklaver47

Жыл бұрын

Except Kobe. He was a rapist POS.

@collectiblesnrandomstuff544

Жыл бұрын

Yea but we all know and love Kobe , that’s why is hurt. We didn’t know anyone else but is sad for their families who knew and loved them .

The no visibility thing freaks me out when driving. I can't imagine flying. I think at that point, I accept death is a possibility.

@KCM1

3 жыл бұрын

Right? That’s terrifying wtf

@quickspinner210

3 жыл бұрын

It's more terrifying on the road because there could be a car ahead, a turn, anything since you couldn't see, and can't stop either due to cars behind you. In the air, at least there's nothing in every direction.

@AR1GAT0

3 жыл бұрын

@@quickspinner210 Yes that is very scary too, they are on their own level of scary lol.

@jjan2383

3 жыл бұрын

Just keep flying up

@farhadnejjad9947

3 жыл бұрын

Death should never be a possibility in that situation, the pilot made a huge error and it cost the life of many.

Imagine you're just out on a hike one day and out of fuckin nowhere a helicopter just falls out of the sky. And then later on in that day you find out it was kobe. Imagine the shock