'Impossible' fraction question?

impossible fraction equation? Is it true that 5/3 + 3/5 is equal to 1? A tricky math algebra question! We solve the equation x/y + y/x = 1 by putting under the common denominator, using the quadratic formula, and complex exponentials. The solution can be elegantly interpreted in terms of rotations and Euler's formula. We solve two variations: x/y + y/x = 0 and x/y + y/x = 2 which are much simpler and can be written in terms of lines and linear functions.
0:00 Introduction
3:00 Variation
4:40 Variation 0
5:23 Verification (finally)
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  • @meettrout419
    @meettrout4192 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Peyam's clickbait game is on another level. Nice video, I loved seeing a breakdown of what would've been a very boring math paper into an illustrative and exciting video on a concept that was seemingly indeterminate, can't wait to see more. :)

  • @isaackay5887

    @isaackay5887

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know right!

  • @isaackay5887

    @isaackay5887

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show, he definitely knows his audience haha

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!!! 😁 Miss you already!!

  • @byronrobbins8834

    @byronrobbins8834

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@isaackay5887 the equation in the thumbnail becomes 34/15 = 1, which is a contradiction, so then such a pairing will fail.

  • @tennesseedarby5319

    @tennesseedarby5319

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw this video: “Oh, the nerd side of KZread is finally getting in on the action! I love it!”

  • @HershO.
    @HershO.2 жыл бұрын

    At the end, an alternative way to verify is to recognise that e^ipi/3 + e^-ipi/3 = 2 cos(pi/3) Which is obviously = 1

  • @dominicellis1867
    @dominicellis18672 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video. In the harmonic system in music, rotation by pi/3 is a whole step or going from C to D and pi/2 is a minor third or going from C to Eb. Therefore, both these rotations being roots of unity mean they divide the octave in equal parts thus for a cycle. In this case, because both 3 and 2 divides 6, a tritone is an immediate byproduct of the 6 and 4 cycle all that to say that you can change keys constantly and still end up in the same key you started in without going thorough all 12 possible notes.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg this application is mind-blowing!!

  • @dominicellis1867

    @dominicellis1867

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam I developed a generator function that takes numbers as inputs and outputs harmonic progressions, chord voicings, Melodie’s or maps of modulation depending on which rhythm you prescribe as the “quantum bit”. Either a measure is the standard unit and your assembling chord progressions i.e. Cmaj7 D-7 G7 or it’s a beat and your assembling chord voicings if all notes are played at once and Melodie’s if all notes are played in temporal succession. Then if a section/phrase is the standard unit then each number represents a key center that you modulate between. You only need 6 angles to consider because of the symmetry of powers of 12. In fact, you can get away with only 3 angles if you allow for negative factors outside and inside the argument. I’ve since written 5 songs with this system.

  • @byronrobbins8834

    @byronrobbins8834

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dominicellis1867 then a Major third will become 2π/3 from C to E, or in a higher setting, D to F#, so we will find out whether such an interval will be brighter, like as in A to C#, or darker, like say B to D.

  • @dominicellis1867

    @dominicellis1867

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@byronrobbins8834 exactly, and you can prescribe key center with a delta parameter representing the “new” I chord. It’s essentially a phase shift on an entire musical vector denoting the chords, Melodie’s, or musical movements. Therefore, D maj is equivalent to * d where d in this case = exp(ipi/3).

  • @WaluigiisthekingASmith

    @WaluigiisthekingASmith

    2 жыл бұрын

    You've just discovered modular arithmetic, congratulations.

  • @isaackay5887
    @isaackay58872 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos Dr. Peyam! And like another comment said, your clickbait game is on another level! Question though: Do you have a graduate-level textbook or grad-level lecture series that you authored/co-authored or recommend? I just graduated with a B.S. Applied Mathematics degree, and I want to continue sharpening my math skills in areas of Complex analysis, computational linear algebra, etc... I love the way you teach, which - at times in my undergrad studies - has really helped me to solidify my understanding of certain math concepts/principles. So if you happen to see this and have *_ANY_* recommendations or references, I'd love to take as many as you have - doesn't need to be applied mathematics necessarily! Thank you so much, sir!!

  • @RSLT
    @RSLT2 жыл бұрын

    Great Job Peyam. Very Interesting.

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell12 жыл бұрын

    Nice little problem. Here's my approach. The problem can be simplified by letting t=x/y, so y/x=1/t (note that, from the given equalion, neither x nor y can be zero, so t≠0, and 1/t is defined), and the equation becomes t+1/t=1. Multiplying by t (which we can do, as long as we bear in mind that t≠0), we get t²+1=t or t²-t+1=0 Let's tweek this slightly more by letting u=-t, so u²+u+1=0, whose solutions we recognise to be the non-real cube roots of 1, ω & ω², where ω=e^(2πi/3)=-1/2+√3/2i. So t=-ω or -ω², and y=-ωx or -ω²x.

  • @Francesco_Luligo

    @Francesco_Luligo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why does the solution involve the cube roots of 1, w and w^2?

  • @MichaelRothwell1

    @MichaelRothwell1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Francesco_Luligo the cube roots of 1 are the solutions of the equation x³=1, or x³-1=0. Now x³-1=(x-1)(x²+x+1) So x³-1=0 (x-1)(x²+x+1)=0 x=1 or x²+x+1=0. So the roots of x²+x+1=0 are the cube roots of 1 except 1 itself, the non-real cube roots of 1. A similar factorisation argument applies to any positive integer (≥2) order roots of 1, except that if the order is even, we'll also get the real root -1. For example, x⁴-1=(x-1)(x³+x²+x+1), so the 4th roots of 1 other than 1 itself are the roots of x³+x²+x+1=0.

  • @Francesco_Luligo

    @Francesco_Luligo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelRothwell1 Thanks!

  • @jmich7
    @jmich72 жыл бұрын

    Always so cool and interesting!😊

  • @xyzain_1827
    @xyzain_18272 жыл бұрын

    Cool video as always

  • @nHans
    @nHans2 жыл бұрын

    Once again, Dr. Peyam proves that *_Nothing is Impossible!_* 👍 Reminds me of a phase I went through in high school. Having learnt complex numbers, 3D vectors etc., I set out to prove that all hitherto-unsolvable equations can be solved if you invented the right family of numbers. 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 After all, all the numbers that we're taught-negative, rational, irrational, real, imaginary, complex etc.-had been progressively invented for that exact reason: to solve equations that couldn't be solved otherwise. I even independently reinvented split-quaternions when a teacher said _"You cannot add scalars to vectors."_ 💡 It's too bad the teacher didn't recognize my genius. 😞 Even now, when I hear _"It has no solution,"_ my response is: _"You mean, using your current toolkit. Get better tools."_ 🧰 In possibly-related news, I'm a very successful engineering manager. 😎 Right now, the only outstanding "impossible" equation is division-by-zero. One of these days, I'll figure out the right family of numbers for that as well! 🔍

  • @Rudxain

    @Rudxain

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish there was a solution to x! = 0. I was trying to invent a HyperComplex number system to solve that equation, but I have no idea how algebra would work with that. And you should watch some videos by BritheMathGuy, he talked about division by 0 in the context of stereographic projection. Sadly, even with that system we can't do 0 * Infinity. But at least we could define 0/0 = 1 (under the right context, not in general)

  • @nHans

    @nHans

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@Rudxain Allow me to reply to your two points in two separate comments. About BriTheMathGuy's video: Yeah, I've seen it. Using a stereographical projection, he defines +∞ = -∞ = ∞, and all a/0 = ∞. But this doesn't solve the problem. As he himself points out, it leads to 0 = 1 = 2 = ... He goes on to talk about Wheel Algebra, wherein indeterminate forms like 0/0, 0^0, 0.∞, ∞/∞, ∞ - ∞ are all _defined_ to be a new element, the _bottom_ element ⊥. And all operations involving the bottom element result in the bottom element. I'm okay with that. As a computer programmer, I occasionally deal with NaN, which is basically the same thing. The real problem why Wheel Algebra can't be used in practice is because basic rules like a/a = 1 and a(b+c) = ab + ac don't hold. 😨 I've also seen his other videos he defines and/or proves identities like: 👉 0/0 = ∞ (not 1 like you suggested) 👉 0^0 = 1 Unfortunately, those are neither convincing nor useful; I'm pretty sure they were just for fun. I took a different approach in high school: I invented an entirely _new_ family of numbers that I called *_Circled_* numbers. I described it in a different comment, so let me copy-paste myself: All of us know that you shouldn't divide by zero, and/or if you do, you get infinity. And none of us is happy with that. Admit it-we all occasionally wonder if that problem can be solved. 😜 And so-inspired by number families like *hyperreal, infinitesimal, ordinal, dual* etc.-I invented a new family of numbers that are solutions to division by zero. I write them as _circled_ numbers. For example: 1/0 = ①, 2/0 = ②, and in general, a/0 = ⓐ. I even convinced my engineering colleagues at work that such numbers exist. It was easy-I had already blown their minds by teaching them all those other number families I mentioned earlier, plus *surreal, split-complex, quaternion, octonion* etc. So they were ready to believe in anything! 🤣

  • @nHans

    @nHans

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@Rudxain Solutions to x!=0, or more generally, Γ(z)=0, is *_exactly_* the kind of problem I'd like to see Dr. Peyam solve using a hitherto-unknown family of numbers!!! 👍 Dr. Peyam's usual trick of using complex numbers to solve seemingly impossible equations _won't work here!_ ☹ After all, it's well-known that there's no solution even among complex numbers. What else ya got, doc? 🤔 I thought a lot about this. I didn't make much progress. So, yeah, I think it's a very interesting problem!

  • @Rudxain

    @Rudxain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nHans All of that is true. The circled numbers seem like a good idea to preserve numerical data. I also tought of something similar for Infinity, like ♾ = ♾ but ♾+1 != ♾, this would preserve a lot of algebraic properties at the cost of making each Infinity unique. This also meant that sqrt(♾)^2 = ♾ and sqrt(♾^2) = +-♾ (because sqrt has 2 solutions) I also thought about how negative numbers are actually positive numbers multiplied by -1, and we could call -1 the "inverted unit" and give it a special symbol like "@", so -5 in this algebraic system would be written as 5@ and read as "5 inverse units". @ is the solution to the equations x + 1 = 0, x^2 = 1 && x != 1 (this one is similar to epsilon, the 2nd solution to sqrt(0), which is x^2 = 0 && x != 0) This algebraic way of representing negatives seems useless, but it actually makes it easier to understand some of the properties of negative numbers in a different perspective. It also made me realize that @@ = 1 is *actually an axiom,* not a theorem, so we could have a different kind of arithmetic where "negative times negative is negative" instead of positive, but nobody uses that axiom because it's more useful for @ to act as a sign flipper instead of a black hole

  • @Rudxain

    @Rudxain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nHans (replying to the factorial thing) exactly! But it really depends on which factorial extension we're using as "base". We could try using the Pi function, spline interpolation, analytic continuation, etc. But since 0 is an integer, we could use a definition that only works in the domain of ints. There's a factorial extension that returns (-1)^n * n! for negative int values of n. And there's another definition that's based in terms of divison, so n! = -1/n! (again, for negative n). Under that definition we can calculate the limit, and the solution to x! = 0 becomes -♾

  • @misterdubity3073
    @misterdubity30732 жыл бұрын

    So when the constant on the RHS is 0, x is a 90 degree rotation away from y. When that constant is 1, x is a 60 degree rotation away from y. When that constant is 2, x is a 0 degree rotation away from y. Next would be if x/y + y/x = k, find the degrees of rotation between complex x and y in terms of k. Well, let's say when abs(k) < 2

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is so cool!

  • @thomasculhane3725

    @thomasculhane3725

    2 жыл бұрын

    setting the RHS to k and using the same method as the first solution yields: x = y/2 ( k ± √(k^2 - 4) ) for k = 0, 1, 2 same results as the video k = 3: x = y/2 ( 3 ± √(9-4)) x = y (3 ± √5) / 2 This can be written as φ+1 and 1-Φ (or 2-φ) where φ is the golden ratio and Φ is the golden ratio conjugate, namely 1/φ or φ-1 For k ≥ 2 all the solutions will be real. k = i x = y/2 (i ± √(-5)) x = y i (1 ± √5)/2 x = φi y or -Φiy Seeing why this works is also fun: x = φi, y = 1 x/y + y/x = φi + (1/i) (1/φ) = φi + (-i)(φ-1) = i (φ + 1 - φ) = i

  • @misterdubity3073

    @misterdubity3073

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam How about: theta = arctan((sqrt(4-k^2)/k)) * 180/pi

  • @nedmerrill5705
    @nedmerrill57052 жыл бұрын

    Math is cool! Thanks Dr. Peyam!

  • @Warnner81
    @Warnner812 жыл бұрын

    چه روش جالبی، ممنون دکتر!

  • @andrewrettig319
    @andrewrettig3192 жыл бұрын

    Can you find a general solution, solving for any integer?

  • @ggggakjhshah2157
    @ggggakjhshah21572 жыл бұрын

    Sir please make a video on explaining the PQ formula for quadratic equation.

  • @davidgould9431
    @davidgould94312 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I had been expecting a video about Farey addition (and, possibly, Ford circles), which obviously gives x/y ⊕ y/x = (x+y)/(y+x) = 1. It's always fun to be surprised.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ooooh I like that too!!

  • @byronrobbins8834

    @byronrobbins8834

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam I would tend to Agree with this, as that equation then becomes X + Y = X + Y, and that equation is a tautology.

  • @walawisp
    @walawisp2 жыл бұрын

    just amazing as always

  • @lexyeevee
    @lexyeevee2 жыл бұрын

    whenever cancellation of imaginary parts comes up like this, i just think about how someone once pointed out to me... there is no distinction between "positive" and "negative" i. we arbitrarily chose one to be positive, but unlike real numbers, there are no inherent properties you can use to distinguish positive and negative imaginary numbers. you could exchange −i with +i throughout all of mathematics and everything would still work

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much! And it just boils down to reflecting your universe about the x axis

  • @reyadhaloraibi3387
    @reyadhaloraibi33872 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, thank you.

  • @jfcrow1
    @jfcrow12 жыл бұрын

    So no real solutions

  • @mohsentroudi9568
    @mohsentroudi95682 жыл бұрын

    Very nice thank you 😊

  • @TedsEscapades
    @TedsEscapades2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps we should teach kids complex mathematics from and early age. Up to the end of secondary school 15-16 years old, we were being taught that the solution for a quadratic doesn't exist if (bb-4ac)

  • @Milan_Openfeint

    @Milan_Openfeint

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seeing how many people struggle with negative numbers, I don't think it would work.

  • @isaackay5887

    @isaackay5887

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with this! Gosh, I remember in elementary school (I think it was 1st grade) I asked my teacher about a simple addition/subtraction problem in which the answers were negative, and I kid you not she told me that we can't have negative numbers and that we can't solve equations like this because "we can't have negative numbers..." I responded by pointing to the thermometer on the wall which clearly showed it was 29-30˚F today (i.e. -1˚C), which she justified as an exception and that I didn't need to worry about it. Lol

  • @bobh6728

    @bobh6728

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know if you need to teach complex mathematics, but you can hint at it. For example, they are going to know about whole numbers and fractions. So you can do something like, can you divide 5 by 3? No, if the answer has to be a whole number, but yes if it can be a fraction. Can you find the square root of -3? No, if it has to be a real number, but there are other numbers where the answer is yes. In fact, there are lots of other types of interesting numbers that the students would want to learn about in the future. If you try to teach complex numbers really early, then where do you stop? Complex, quaternions, matrixes, infinities, etc. But I think it is bad to say there is no solution. Better to say, there is no solution with the numbers that we have studied so far. Sad thing is, some that teach ages up to 15 or so, may not even know about complex numbers themselves.

  • @nHans

    @nHans

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, I'm afraid I disagree about teaching complex numbers to kids. In fact, a lot of well-intentioned people-like yourself-often suggest that some particular topic or another should be taught to all schoolchildren at an early age, because they found it very interesting or useful for themselves. Not just math topics, but also subjects like philosophy, cursive writing, farming, quantum mechanics, foreign languages, touch-typing, ethics, music etc. There are several reasons why I disagree. Let me discuss the two most important ones: Time and Relevance. (The others are Pedagogy and Teaching Resources.) It's not like schoolchildren are idling on standby with nothing to do. Rather, their curricula and schedules are already overcrowded. They don't have enough time even to absorb what they're being taught, let alone play and just enjoy being children. Every new topic that you want to add has to take time away from something else-eating, playing, sleeping, or a subject that you think is less important than complex numbers. And sure, that's a conversation that parents and educators should frequently be having. After all, as technology progresses, we need to keep adapting to the new stuff and eliminating the irrelevant and obsolete. What about relevance? Fact is, most adults don't use complex numbers in their daily lives. So I'd teach it only to those who will (eventually) need it-aspiring mathematicians, scientists, engineers etc. For most other professions-including management, accountants, lawyers, performing arts, humanities etc.-it's unnecessary. I'd rather teach students something useful to their daily lives. Or directly relevant to their future career. Or even give them back their free time so that they can be creative. In short, I wouldn't teach complex numbers to schoolchildren that early, nor to everyone. I agree about one thing though-you shouldn't tell children something is impossible when, in fact, more powerful tools _can_ solve the problem. When I come to such roadblocks while teaching, I'm very careful to explain that the tools _we currently have_ cannot solve this particular problem. At some point in the future, we'll learn how to use more powerful tools, but for now, leave them alone. For all you know, there could even be a family of numbers-which we haven't been taught yet-that can divide by zero!

  • @bobh6728

    @bobh6728

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nHans L’Hôpital’s Rule for divide by zero.

  • @mrlolcat2412
    @mrlolcat2412 Жыл бұрын

    1:53 when a maths professor writes obfiscated notation

  • @allinhd527
    @allinhd527 Жыл бұрын

    Its amazing 👏. Nothing is impossible again you have proved

  • @nickcampbell3812
    @nickcampbell38122 жыл бұрын

    Isn't this functionally the same as y = X^1 + X^-1 (in this case solving for when y=1), which I believe the graph of which has a slant asymptote at y=X and a vertical asymptote at X=0. This would imply that there are no real solutions when y=0 and when y=1.

  • @felipelopes3171
    @felipelopes31712 жыл бұрын

    Just one small comment, the operation on irreducible fractions where you add the numerators and the denominators to find a new fraction actually has some interesting mathematical properties, and it's called the mediant.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting!

  • @petteripan2658
    @petteripan26582 жыл бұрын

    Another mind-blowing question 😁

  • @user-eh2ec3rn6w
    @user-eh2ec3rn6w2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @fabiotiburzi
    @fabiotiburzi2 жыл бұрын

    Little suggestion: what if you dig into the rabbit hole of multi variables? Maybe with limits, gradients divergence and curl (or rotor as we italians call it)

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s a whole playlist

  • @fabiotiburzi

    @fabiotiburzi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam sry, didn't notice

  • @iloveNDA
    @iloveNDA2 жыл бұрын

    can you please make a video on the GAMMA FUCNTION and (1/2)! is sqrt(pi) / 2 ??

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Already done

  • @imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563
    @imafkingbeastandrewtateise95632 жыл бұрын

    What a strange coincidence he uses variables instead of the actual numbers that he chose.

  • @GirishManjunathMusic
    @GirishManjunathMusic2 жыл бұрын

    can you take x/y + y/x = 1 as x² + y² = xy, then take x² - xy + y² = 0, then under the condition that x ≠ -y multiply both sides by x + y to get (x + y)(x² - xy + y²) = 0 or x³ + y³ = 0? thus you'd get, as x ≠ -y, x = ³√y³ with either one of the two complex branches of the cube root function?

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch the video and find out

  • @GirishManjunathMusic

    @GirishManjunathMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam I did, but you went in a different direction and I'm not profecient enough with the complex roots of a number to tell whether my solution set is equivalent to yours.

  • @GirishManjunathMusic

    @GirishManjunathMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam hmm I went back and referred my old high-school mah textbook, and I think my answer set is equivalent, if you take x = (ω/ω²)y where ω and ω² are the complex cube roots of unity

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit9222 жыл бұрын

    If we add in the same way as we multiply it will be correct answer but this addition would be wrong

  • @turkishmaid
    @turkishmaid2 жыл бұрын

    Etudes in x/y+y/x. Amazing 😻

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like that title!!

  • @federicosedilis9436
    @federicosedilis94362 жыл бұрын

    If you put x/y+y/x=2 it doesn't show the graph in geogebra, why?

  • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart

    @mathisnotforthefaintofheart

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same problem in DESMOS, I noticed. I ought to be a line. Try 2.1 instead of 2, and then 2.01 etc However, when you "clear" the fraction in DESMOS and rewrite the equation, you obtain the desired line. Not sure why

  • @ichigo_nyanko
    @ichigo_nyanko2 жыл бұрын

    the first part gives you two solutions right away: notice you have x=y*( (1+-sqrt(3)i)/2), just notice that x/y = (1+-sqrt(3)i) / (2) and so y = 2 and x = 1+sqrt(3)i or 1-sqrt(3)i

  • @MCLooyverse
    @MCLooyverse2 жыл бұрын

    In the real numbers, no. For any positive real x, either x > 1, which means we need 1/x to be negative (impossible), or x 1, therefore 1/x + x > 1 as well. For negative x, we'll be adding two negative numbers, which will never be 1. Now, in the complex numbers, we have i + 1/i = 0, which is new (not what was asked, but also previously impossible). If you look at an equilateral triangle (with sidelength 1), that actually exposes one possible answer. e^(i ⋅ 60°) + e^(i ⋅ -60°) = 1/2 + i ⋅ root(2, 3)/2 + 1/2 - i ⋅ root(2, 3)/2 = 1 To cover all solutions though, z + 1/z = 1 => z² - z + 1 = 0 => z ∈ 1/2 ± root(2, 1/4 - 1) .... which will just give the original solution, plus its conjugate/inverse.

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson12 жыл бұрын

    multiply by xy: x^2+y^2=xy notice: (x-y)^2 = x^2+y^2-2xy notice: x^2+y^2=xy+xy+(x-y)^2 since both are true, we can combine them to get: (x-y)^2 = -xy. if we assume these are real numbers, we know -xy must be positive, except in the case x=y=0, which is not allowed by the original equation. Returning to the first step, knowing xy must be negative: x^2+y^2 = xy < 0, which is impossible in the real numbers. Therefore the solution must be complex, and i'm too lazy to continue from that.

  • @tgx3529
    @tgx35292 жыл бұрын

    ln(3/5)+ln(5/3)=ln1, mabye ln has the same color as the paper!!😀

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @byronrobbins8834

    @byronrobbins8834

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam of course ln(1) is zero, so ln(0.6) is also -ln(5/3).

  • @SuperDreamliner787
    @SuperDreamliner7872 жыл бұрын

    I once had to prove that x/y+y/x >=2 for all real x,y. Thanks for the reminder! :)

  • @arturcostasteiner9735

    @arturcostasteiner9735

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is certainly true if x and y are both positive or both negative. If they have opposite signs, then x/y + y/x

  • @ggggakjhshah2157
    @ggggakjhshah21572 жыл бұрын

    It can be followed by the ancient Formula to calculate Quadratics. It was used by Babylonians and is older than quadratic formula This produces the reduced quadratic equation which is equivalent to quadratic formula i.e., -P/2 ±(√P/2)²-q Request: Please make a video on explaining the PQ formula for quadratic equation.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out my most popular video

  • @ggggakjhshah2157

    @ggggakjhshah2157

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drpeyam thanks .

  • @techedzee
    @techedzee2 жыл бұрын

    I feel violated. U click baited me. But I learnt something today

  • @justinfrollo
    @justinfrollo2 жыл бұрын

    Nice shirt! Where'd you get it?

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    It‘s for sale on my Teespring store 😁

  • @JohnDoe-kh3hy
    @JohnDoe-kh3hy2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for trying Spanish for your lecture. 👍😀

  • @mateszabo5487
    @mateszabo54872 жыл бұрын

    Complex numbers are unbelievable!

  • @BlokenArrow
    @BlokenArrow2 жыл бұрын

    So at 0, the values are at right angles and at 2, the coincide. This implies that between 0 and 2 there is a continuum or angles between 0 and 90 degrees. Cool.

  • @priyanshugoel3030
    @priyanshugoel30302 жыл бұрын

    Looks better in polar.

  • @francistorchio
    @francistorchio2 жыл бұрын

    When I looked at the first equation, I assumed that the answer was in real numbers, not imaginary numbers.

  • @joepollard3228
    @joepollard32282 жыл бұрын

    You have just taken a simple mathematical problem, which was clearly incorrect, and turned it into a gymnastic event.

  • @tusharmaharana3373
    @tusharmaharana33732 жыл бұрын

    You had me sweating with the thumbnail.

  • @delandrews2929
    @delandrews29292 жыл бұрын

    My head just exploded...

  • @ShadeGhost
    @ShadeGhost2 жыл бұрын

    Entendi nada mas achei bonito o desenvolvimento.

  • @nHans
    @nHans2 жыл бұрын

    I may be catching on to the trick behind Dr. Peyam's "Impossible" videos ... they're impossible with _real_ numbers, but solvable with _complex_ numbers. Right? Right??? Anyway, my real question is: Are there equations that cannot be solved with _complex_ numbers, but solvable with other, even more exotic types, such as quaternions, octonions etc.? I've never used-or even formally studied-the latter types; just read them up out of interest.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m trying to work on a couple of them, but I have a nice quarternion equation video that I published

  • @richardfredlund3802

    @richardfredlund3802

    2 жыл бұрын

    that's a super question @Niranjan Hanasoge

  • @chrisglosser7318
    @chrisglosser73182 жыл бұрын

    Ooo - now do the math student’s favorite fraction simplification: 1/x+1/y=1/(x+y)

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Already done ✅

  • @chrisglosser7318

    @chrisglosser7318

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes - those students were never actually wrong, they just love equilateral triangles :-)

  • @alvarezjulio3800
    @alvarezjulio38002 жыл бұрын

    Dr Peyam's impossible mission!🤣

  • @PLAYWORD
    @PLAYWORD2 жыл бұрын

    X quadrado? Where are u from? -_-

  • @fergame3302
    @fergame33022 жыл бұрын

    No the equasion results in 34 over 15

  • @durgeshadurgesha8682
    @durgeshadurgesha86822 жыл бұрын

    I was inspired by you

  • @Farzriyaz
    @Farzriyaz2 жыл бұрын

    i got this result x/3=3/x 3+3i√3/2 or 3−3i√3/2

  • @santiagollanos4236
    @santiagollanos42362 жыл бұрын

    equis cuadrado

  • @alexdemoura9972
    @alexdemoura99722 жыл бұрын

    0:25 [EN] [EN] [EN]... "dos x son x cuadrado... " [EN] [EN] [EN]... 😁

  • @johnny_eth
    @johnny_eth2 жыл бұрын

    Cute. How about generalizing for =a where a is any number?

  • @arturcostasteiner9735

    @arturcostasteiner9735

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, then the problem gets way more complicated.

  • @nHans

    @nHans

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@arturcostasteiner9735 Not really. It's still the same quadratic equation: x² - axy + y² = 0, and has the same quadratic solution for _x_ in terms of _a_ and _y._ As before, the solutions will be complex. In some cases, they'll be real. (Complex numbers include real numbers.) Note that _a_ and _y_ can also be complex-the quadratic formula will still work. Of course, if _a_ is some other type of number-quaternion, octonion etc.-then yes, it does get more complicated, because the high-school quadratic formula no longer holds.

  • @okieness9849
    @okieness98492 жыл бұрын

    Why is your "y" so similar to 4

  • @johndoe-pb1di
    @johndoe-pb1di2 жыл бұрын

    Wtf you have to find the LCD making it 2 4/15 or 5/3 = 1.66… and 3/5=.60 and Therefore… is equal to 2.26….

  • @sanjanapanwar605
    @sanjanapanwar6052 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @randint
    @randint2 жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @derwolf7810
    @derwolf78102 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, first x/y + y/x = 1, then x/y + y/x = 0, followed by x/y + y/x = 2. Somehow i expected x/y + y/x = c next... . Edit: I couldn't resist, hopefully i didn't made any error: ==> x = 0.5 (c +/- sqrt(c^2 - 4)) y (interesting) case -2 r cos(a) := 0.5c and r sin(c) := +/- sqrt(4 - c^2); r >= 0 r^2 = (r cos(a))^2 + (r sin(a))^2 = (0.5 c)^2 + (+/- 0.5 sqrt(4-c^2))^2 = 0.25 c^2 + 0.25 (4-c^2) = 1 r = 1 ==> cos(a) := 0.5c and sin(c) := +/- sqrt(4-c^2) ==> a = atan(sin(a)/cos(a)) = atan(+/- sqrt(4 - c^2)/(0.5c)) = +/- atan(sqrt(16/c^2 - 4)) Corrected "c^2 - 4" to "4 - c^2"

  • @Milan_Openfeint

    @Milan_Openfeint

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can't say for certain, but for c=1 your last formula is atan(sqrt(-12)), I'm sure the result can be written in a better form. I'm getting a=arccos(c/2) "and that's a good place to stop".

  • @derwolf7810

    @derwolf7810

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Milan_Openfeint Argh, within the sqrt expression i somehow used "c^2 - 4" instead of "4 - c^2": Need sqrt(c^2-4) = i sqrt(4-c^2) to get a real value within the sqrt for -2 (Funnily i used the correct expression in the "r^2 =..." line, but nowhere else... . So for c=1 we should get +/-atan(sqrt(12)), though that seems to be false, maybe i shouldn't have done many parts in my head i assume.

  • @divyansharora6788
    @divyansharora67882 жыл бұрын

    Me thinking we have to solve this over integers...

  • @VivekYadav-hs1qx
    @VivekYadav-hs1qx2 жыл бұрын

    Now i am getting dissy 😂

  • @greghansen38
    @greghansen382 жыл бұрын

    T-shirt, "Körper" -- Body goes here?

  • @adamforte9530
    @adamforte95302 жыл бұрын

    Does 5/3 plus 3/5 equal 1??? NO!! Lol

  • @peterwaksman9179
    @peterwaksman91792 жыл бұрын

    r=x/y gives r+1/r = 1....not too hard.

  • @arturcostasteiner9735

    @arturcostasteiner9735

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. And this leads to r = exp(pi/3) or r = exp(-pi/3).

  • @nemesis2022pf
    @nemesis2022pf2 жыл бұрын

    Wrong. 5/3+3/5=34/15.

  • @yes-nj3ov
    @yes-nj3ov2 жыл бұрын

    X=1 but Y=2

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @cooltaylor1015
    @cooltaylor10152 жыл бұрын

    No. 2 1/15 is correct. Without watching the video.

  • @drpeyam

    @drpeyam

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @cooltaylor1015

    @cooltaylor1015

    2 жыл бұрын

    5/3 + 3/5 = 2 1/15 5/3 = 1⅔ = 1 10/15 3/5 = 9/15 9/15 + 1 10/15 = 1 19/15 = 2 4/15 So i was mistaken. 2 and 4/15 would be correct.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo2 жыл бұрын

    hahaha you rule

  • @hassanalihusseini1717
    @hassanalihusseini17172 жыл бұрын

    Haha, "Körper"....

  • @trevcam6892
    @trevcam68922 жыл бұрын

    No it doesn't.

  • @Nikioko
    @Nikioko2 жыл бұрын

    No real solution.

  • @sudeepshet4100
    @sudeepshet41002 жыл бұрын

    Wow what a nice clickbait

  • @saulmendoza1652
    @saulmendoza16522 жыл бұрын

    Nice Spanish…

  • @MyOneFiftiethOfADollar
    @MyOneFiftiethOfADollar2 жыл бұрын

    x/y + y/x >= 2sqrt(x/yy/x)=2 by am-gm. x,y > 0. So no real positive solution for thumbnail x/y + y/x = 1.

  • @tomctutor
    @tomctutor2 жыл бұрын

    I say y = αx solves x/y+y/x = β (where β∈ℝ*), then α∈ℝ iff |β| ⋝ 2. Conversely, α∈ℂ, iff |β| I just don't like ℂ where all those pesky ℿmi's popping up everywhere! シ