Important Update for Steinberg Users: e-Licenser End-of-Life in 2025 - Get Ready!

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In this video I talk about the recent news from Steinberg that the old e-Licenser system will be end-of-service in early 2025! What does that mean for you and how can you prepare?
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Table of Contents:
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00:00 Intro
00:42 Steinberg licensing
01:08 What is closing down?
01:30 What are the implications?
03:09 Can I keep using my e-licenser?
04:50 Recommendations
05:00 Still using e-licenser products?
07:22 Move licenses to USB e-licenser
07:54 Activate any unused products
08:29 Upgrade to new licensing
09:13 Why upgrade?
10:30 How to upgrade from e-licenser
14:07 Outro
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  • @LanewoodStudios
    @LanewoodStudiosАй бұрын

    So what do you think about this? Does it impact you or have you moved over already?

  • @nicolasroy6654

    @nicolasroy6654

    Ай бұрын

    I got it on my computer now

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@nicolasroy6654 👍

  • @Notmehimorthem

    @Notmehimorthem

    Ай бұрын

    Does not work here.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@Notmehimorthem what exactly does not work?

  • @DanielaTocan

    @DanielaTocan

    Ай бұрын

    Shure no move and no future upgrades.

  • @Dave.F0x
    @Dave.F0xАй бұрын

    The old antiquated licensing system was one of the reasons I moved to PreSonus, but I'm back with Steinberg now.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Welcome back 👍.

  • @buckycore

    @buckycore

    Ай бұрын

    I'm glad I switched over when I did with Version 12, as I had no idea that it required an e-license before

  • @procrasti-nation9517
    @procrasti-nation9517Ай бұрын

    that was by far the most important yt-video I've ever seen. a thousand thanks!!!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You are very welcome!

  • @davestead617
    @davestead617Ай бұрын

    Thanks' as usual very comprehensive info I'm still on 10.5 so I will now upgrade as going forward I could lose everything . Best Cubase Chanel. Cheers

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you and enjoy your new version!

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobileАй бұрын

    Thanks for this! I have licensed on those keys and will be delighted to not have to look after them anymore. Much appreciated explicit instructions to make the transition.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @deltadeltan
    @deltadeltanАй бұрын

    Excellent Video. This helped me convert my old licenses to the new system. Thanks :)

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You’re all set 👍

  • @dagb7271
    @dagb7271Ай бұрын

    Thanks for info. I’m still using it and would be happy to don’t have to anymore. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You are welcome. Time to upgrade then?

  • @HenryMittnacht
    @HenryMittnachtАй бұрын

    Thanks for this important video. I must have missed the Steinberg notification email somehow... I will migrate my elicenced products asap!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @in2gadgets
    @in2gadgetsАй бұрын

    Great help, Maarten - thanks...

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You’re welcome Kenny!

  • @justindpeak
    @justindpeakАй бұрын

    Sweet, time to get one of my USB ports back :)

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely, you do need to upgrade though or not run the software anymore of course ;).

  • @NathanielPrinceCoulter

    @NathanielPrinceCoulter

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like an actual nightmare

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@NathanielPrinceCoulter nah not really. It was pretty easy to upgrade and be on the new system. Did it with Cubase 12 when it came out and with the VSTi as I show in the video.

  • @PrincipalAudio
    @PrincipalAudioАй бұрын

    I just removed mine and freed up another USB port. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @virgilsstudio

    @virgilsstudio

    Ай бұрын

    That was my first thought lol, it's all about usb real estate baby!!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@virgilsstudio 😅

  • @jaixaphoto
    @jaixaphoto18 күн бұрын

    I guess I just ruled out ever getting stuff from Steinberg. Thanks for proving my distrust in cloud setvices

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    17 күн бұрын

    I think many people like the new system better but you can stay with the e-licensers if you really need to.

  • @bulkvanderhuge9006
    @bulkvanderhuge9006Ай бұрын

    This is why I use Reaper

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Sure, great DAW as well.

  • @vitomasilotti

    @vitomasilotti

    Ай бұрын

    Yea, this was always a big turnoff for me as well with Cubase, and why I never considered upgrading. I got a free license for the Essential version of the software with one of the Yamaha Keyboards I purchased several years ago, but never found it to be user friendly, and the eLicensor thing just was one of the things I found very confusing in relation to Cubase to begin with. It seemed to me, that they actually made it more difficult then it should be, to even download the software in the first place, and eventually just started looking into other DAW's. For instance, I have like 4 shortcuts on my computer that seemed to appear when I finally go thru the initial installation, that I still don't fully understand: eLicensor Control Center, Steinberg Download Assistant, Activation Manager, and Steinberg Library Manager! Big turnoff. Especially when you're new to DAW recording to begin with. With Ableton for example, you purchase the product, get the download link, install the software, and you have a fully functional DAW right on your Desktop in a matter of minutes! Cubase was way too frustrating for me. Even now, when I go to my Cubase account, I still wouldn't know how to upgrade the software, even if I wanted to too. It's confusing as hell! I have to say though, their customer service is pretty good. You can actually speak with a live person. (At least that's how it was several years ago). It it wasn't for that, I probably would even have the essential (or lite) version installed. Shame, because I do hear some people speak well of Cubase and all, but ya just about never hear how non-user friendly it is, especially in this regard. I really hope this is like the beginning to where they like, really get a handle on this issue. I'm sure they must have gotten complaints from others about it. Or, are at least aware of those complaints. It's kind of puzzling really. It's almost as if, they don't want you to use the software...

  • @andesneko

    @andesneko

    Ай бұрын

    Using an inferior DAW for such a small thing.

  • @bulkvanderhuge9006

    @bulkvanderhuge9006

    Ай бұрын

    @@andesneko So, a DAW has to costs HUNDREDS of dollars to be any good in your eyes?

  • @andesneko

    @andesneko

    29 күн бұрын

    @@bulkvanderhuge9006 Yes. Indeed. If millions of dollars are needed, even better. Ain't using stuff that people eating cardboard use, duh. (Typical Reaper user logic. "Expensive" DAWs are bad and Reaper is good because you can steal it and no one will blink).

  • @dbtube
    @dbtubeАй бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this video.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You are most welcome

  • @NickAsselberghs
    @NickAsselberghsАй бұрын

    Thank you for the video, I am glad that it's there for people still using the USB e-Licensers. I moved to the new Steinberg licensing system quite a while ago, I was happy to be rid of the USB. I have the Amped Elektra as well, I think we got it for free at some point connected with some promotion perhaps. I know I didn't buy it on it's own, and I had it before i purchased Absolute 5.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes that's where I must have gotten it as well then.

  • @SableWinters
    @SableWinters29 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the update

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    29 күн бұрын

    You’re welcome!

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain29 күн бұрын

    This is a clear breach of contract in English Law. The Licenser is simply a validation of the intangible deal, that the purchaser has actually bought the product. If Steinberg are dishonouring that deal unilaterally, they're laying themselves open to breach of contract.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    29 күн бұрын

    Let's see if someone is going to follow-up on that.

  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this.....i got the Steinberg email. I've got some real consolidation to do!. I've got licenses on my computer and the usb stick.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Best of luck!

  • @Skijumptoes
    @SkijumptoesАй бұрын

    All good here, much prefer the new licensing and luckily all my products are on the new one.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    👍

  • @mountainmansimulations
    @mountainmansimulationsАй бұрын

    For Cubase users specifically, if you are running Cubase 12 or 13 you are already on the new dongle free system. If you have Cubase 11 or earlier you will still need to have the USB dongle for it to work. So best to ensure your e-licenser keys are on the dongle and keep it safe! In general no real issues, but if you are trying to maintain an old computer with projects from 10 year+ ago and want to run those projects the e-licenser will be a requirement. The reality is a lot of legacy music gear, computers, operating systems are timing out and it is going to get more difficult to keep these systems going. Time to get those old projects backed up, multi-tracks converted to audio etc. Thanks for the video!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You are welcome and great additional explanation!

  • @172Break

    @172Break

    Ай бұрын

    "multi-tracks converted to audio" is the best advice ever for backing up projects. It's a joy opening a 15 year old tune with 30 audio tracks that playback and just work. It's a nightmare opening a 15 year old project with 30 midi tracks and VSTs that no longer play.

  • @rathimself
    @rathimselfАй бұрын

    Thx for bringing attention to this! However, using the vouchers for upgrading my soft e-licenser products did not behave like this. The voucher code I was given was not for use with the e-licenser control centre, but needed to be input in the Steinberg Download Assistant in the "Enter your Download Access code" field. This was not, from what I can see, stated on the Steinberg website, but it works ;).

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes thanks for that addendum 😉. The way I show is as listed on the tech article about download vouchers, you just click the redeem button and follow along. However, if you expand the redeem section you do get a download access code as well that you can use in your download assistant. I guess it’s a second way to do it especially handy if you still need to download the new version of the software with Steinberg licensing.

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductionsАй бұрын

    It is about time Steinberg caught up to the early 2000s. I will upgrade my licenses today.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    👌

  • @Ch1mereucheya
    @Ch1mereucheyaАй бұрын

    What happens to Halion Symphonic Orchestra which is still on the elicenser? it doesnt run on Steinberg Licensing.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Then I would check with Steinberg for that one.

  • @willynanita
    @willynanitaАй бұрын

    I have the old UR-44 USB audio interface that came with a "Basic FX Suite". That FX Suite uses the USB licensing system, and it does not show as upgraded to the new licensing system anywhere... I think I should get help with Steinberg to upgrade that software, I don't want to have that USB dongle in my PC.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes definitely ask Steinberg about that.

  • @Nik-8it5p
    @Nik-8it5p24 күн бұрын

    Thank the lord!!!!!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    24 күн бұрын

    🙏

  • @nicolasroy6654
    @nicolasroy6654Ай бұрын

    Hi. I got a question. I use OB-xd as a VST. I got three midi track and when my track go back to the beginning the sound change. Cubase doesn't keep the sound i choose. You know why. After choosing my sound is there a move i got to do to tell Cubase (this is the sound that i choose) Thanks.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    29 күн бұрын

    Maybe try recording the correct sound/bank change at the beginning of you part. There's probably another sound selection recorded at the beginning of your part now.

  • @satyajitkelkar
    @satyajitkelkarАй бұрын

    I use reaper so i am always free from these hassles

  • @bakedbean37
    @bakedbean3727 күн бұрын

    Fortunately the old H2O virtual e-licenses will continue to work. 🙂

  • @YesItsReallyKeith
    @YesItsReallyKeithАй бұрын

    at least they are not dropping their clients like rocks !!! well done Steinberg !! most other companies will force you to buy else drop you !!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    These tech transitions are always a bit annoying but have to be done at some point.

  • @aleksanderczyz591
    @aleksanderczyz59111 күн бұрын

    I'm so frustrated with this. Why my Cubase AI license cannot be transferred to the new system? So, basically, the software with no voucher for upgrade is being cut off - with no option to move or reactivate? Am I right?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    11 күн бұрын

    Not sure what’s happening there. Check with Steinberg.

  • @John2009R
    @John2009RАй бұрын

    Looks like halion 6 is my only issue. It doesn't support the new system. I would like to upgrade to 7 but have been waiting a long time for a sale. Did I miss it?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Haven’t heard anything about it. It could be that they offer upgrades at a discount just before terminating that service but you don’t know of course.

  • @jeremybalzarini279

    @jeremybalzarini279

    Ай бұрын

    Absolute 5 is the same. I'm trying to wait for the sale as well before upgrading.

  • @Minast64
    @Minast64Ай бұрын

    Some of my plugins don’t work on Cuba’s 12-13. BFD only works on 11 and I can’t get my waves plugins working on 12or 13. Can I still use 11 after that date?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes as long as your e-licenser keeps working.

  • @jeremybalzarini279
    @jeremybalzarini279Ай бұрын

    Am I understanding this right. If I don't upgrade to absolute 6 I can't have absolute 5 in the new steinberg licenser?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You can keep using the e-licenser for as long as it works. But when it breaks you cannot install the licenses onto a new one.

  • @Eppie55
    @Eppie55Ай бұрын

    I’m afraid that it is not true that ALL Steinberg products are going to the new license system. I have Absolute 3 which include The Grand, Halion 6 , Symphonic Orchestra f.e., this package will not be going to the new system they answered me. Only if you ever bought those seperately. Enough said about the Steinberg service!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes they are not moving everything to the new licensing system. Only the products they keep supporting. So for those you’re stuck with e-licenses I guess. If they are on your machine I would move them now to a USB e-licenser though.

  • @Eppie55

    @Eppie55

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios To me I find it very annoying to here that f.e. the Grand and Halion6 are vouchered to the new system, except when they were included in the Absolute package. Thsey have to remain on the USB-licenser. Absurd!

  • @nizartareq1624
    @nizartareq1624Ай бұрын

    What will happen to my old (Virtual Guitarist 2) license, which is installed on my USB dongle?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You can keep using it as long as your dongle works or check with Steinberg what can be done.

  • @nayanmoniboruah7099
    @nayanmoniboruah709924 күн бұрын

    Hello sir, I have a studio setup. I have a bass cencelation problem in my listening position which is middle of my studio. But in other position the bass is good in listening. But I cannot move my listening position due to room shape. Is a good Subwoofer solve this problem? I want to conferm before buy and invest money. Plz answer.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    24 күн бұрын

    That’s a question that only a good acoustician could answer. It’s probably better to try some sound treatment first.

  • @nayanmoniboruah7099

    @nayanmoniboruah7099

    22 күн бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios My rooms wall's cover with rockwool and also with bass traps. But my sitting position is the center of the room which I know the null point for bass. But I cannot move to other position due to room size. So I want to know from you that is a Subwoofer can solve this problem?

  • @markquavertune2003
    @markquavertune200329 күн бұрын

    It means that you have to have an internet connection all of the time .I got my first e licenser in 2006 when I purchased Cubase 4 via physical media. The email with the licence number will be enough. It should be.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    29 күн бұрын

    No, once your system is activated you can go offline. And there are even ways to activate an offline system.

  • @ZozillaThaGreat
    @ZozillaThaGreatАй бұрын

    What about the portico plugins are we gonna lose them ?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Check if there is an update for the new licensing.

  • @LearnWithStephen
    @LearnWithStephenАй бұрын

    Can you explain that cubase voucher again. I just bought 13 pro this weekend.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    If you have Cubase 13 you do not need any vouchers. Cubase 13 only works with the new licensing system. The vouchers are for moving over older products to the new licensing system. Check your Steinberg account to see if you have any. There are also links in the description that you can check out to see even more details.

  • @LearnWithStephen

    @LearnWithStephen

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios thank you so much!

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@LearnWithStephen 👍

  • @LearnWithStephen

    @LearnWithStephen

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios oh I just want to add, that I looked on my Steinberg account and indeed found vouchers that come with the current sale of Cubase. So because of you I found new instruments that come with my installation of Cubase 13 pro. Thank you again!

  • @HiddenroomStudio
    @HiddenroomStudioАй бұрын

    What i did not understand, how about other Compnys using the elicenser service? Like Vienna Symphony?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Good point, you'll have to check with them whether they can keep providing licenses on the e-licenser or provide a migration plan to a new licensing method as well.

  • @reniarlegieps

    @reniarlegieps

    Ай бұрын

    They migrated to ilok.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@reniarlegieps I guess that makes sense since it can also be dongle based if you like that.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Many companies have moved on from copy protection. It doesn't work, and it only harms the legitimate users.

  • @jeremiahlyleseditor437
    @jeremiahlyleseditor437Ай бұрын

    I have the Big Bang Orchestra. Will that require updating?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Not sure. You can check the licenses which you currently have on your e-licenser as I show in the video.

  • @chokocat9064
    @chokocat9064Ай бұрын

    There are no user advantages to copy protection. It doesn't do what the copy protection companies claim (force people to buy their software), and it only harms the legitimate users by erecting walls that render the products unusable. Imagine if your car had a mode where it would stop working because it could not connect to the net. Imagine this happening on your way to work, or the hospital. If you drive a BMW you already experience this with your seat heaters. It is a form of insanity. None of this drama, hardship, or pain would be incurred by the users if they had access to non-copy protected software.

  • @outtakontroll3334

    @outtakontroll3334

    28 күн бұрын

    your car analogy is something that is likely to happen before long.

  • @groovechild9903
    @groovechild9903Ай бұрын

    If you have to reinstall your operating system, what happens to your licences on the new system?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    You will lose them after the service goes down. Hence the recommendations in the video.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Gone! The beauty of copy protection. This is why it is important to use software that doesn't inflict this sort of pain on the users.

  • @kevinsturges6957
    @kevinsturges6957Ай бұрын

    Does this mean I can register my old Cubase 8.5 in the cloud?

  • @jeremybalzarini279

    @jeremybalzarini279

    Ай бұрын

    You'll have to use the dongle.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    No, the new licensing system is available as of Cubase 12.

  • @soulscape5083
    @soulscape508323 күн бұрын

    What will happen to Virtual Guitarist which uses e-licenser?

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    22 күн бұрын

    Not sure, I don't even see that product on this list anymore: helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/4413291566994-Steinberg-program-releases-still-supporting-eLicenser-technology Maybe check with Steinberg or check the forum?

  • @moonkeele
    @moonkeeleАй бұрын

    I remember when the dongle fitted on a printer port

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Ha ha … yes I had one of those too.

  • @BenCaesar
    @BenCaesarАй бұрын

    I only got into Cubase when they got rid of the usb in 12

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Then you are up-to-date with licensing 😎.

  • @glenesis
    @glenesisАй бұрын

    Oh so we were right: Copy protection SUCKS.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately it has always been a necessary evil 😬.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios That's absolutely not true. There are many companies selling software without copy protection. Even the music companies stopped putting DRM on their mp3 file, because it doesn't work. Statements like that only support this fallacy, even though it has been proven to be an ineffective method to fight piracy.

  • @eekamoose
    @eekamooseАй бұрын

    The Steinberg license fiasco is why I migrated to Cakewalk a few years ago. I tried to pay Steinberg but never got what I paid for. I wasted SO much time trying to get Cubase to work after I had paid for a license. It used to work for a couple of months and then refuse to launch. Great software but what a ripoff.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunate that you had such a bad experience with the e-licensing system. For many (including myself) it has worked flawlessly for years and now it is time for a change. And the new system has also worked as designed for me so far. So I just get to enjoy the great software without the issues you experienced.

  • @hermask815
    @hermask81529 күн бұрын

    They will only learn when that happens to a life supporting system when they’re depending on it.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    29 күн бұрын

    Not sure what you mean.

  • @nicolasroy6654
    @nicolasroy6654Ай бұрын

    e-Licenser is so bad. One time cubase tells me that my license was mot good. So can't open it. But i got a recording session this week-end. I can't join them before the monday so i lost 1000$ because of e-Licenser.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes that’s bad 😬

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    This is an excellent reason to move to software that doesn't implement copy protection that harms the users. There's no reason that a legitimate customer should have to go through losing thousands of dollars just to support a corrupt system.

  • @dougr5187
    @dougr5187Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the heads-up d()b

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Always better to know 😉

  • @lawrencerasmus
    @lawrencerasmusАй бұрын

    Done with daws , digital workstation and outboard analog gear , no crash and update crap

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Sure whatever you prefer.

  • @theprogrammerrolandmc3039

    @theprogrammerrolandmc3039

    27 күн бұрын

    Just use reaper it's free

  • @cuejosh9453
    @cuejosh9453Ай бұрын

    No voucher for Halion 6

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    I think you have to upgrade to Halion 7 to get the new licensing. See helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/4413291566994-Steinberg-program-releases-still-supporting-eLicenser-technology

  • @AdamGotheridge
    @AdamGotheridgeАй бұрын

    Maybe I'm an idiot, but this whole licensing thing is a complete f'ing mess. As far as I can tell, there is no way to move my halion 6 or groove agent licenses off the usb licenser to whatever the call the licensing system that doesn't need the dongle. So I use the dongle, oops, left it downstairs on the basement studio computer. 250' walk to go get it. Rince and repeat. Basically you can't even use the stuff you bought. They should just refund your money. I've been a cubase user since v1 which had to be in the 80's, and paid for every stupid update since. Something really wrong with this company.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe check out this list of software still requiring the e-licenser: helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/4413291566994-Steinberg-program-releases-still-supporting-eLicenser-technology If you want to get the new licensing on those programs I guess you’ll have to upgrade to a newer version.

  • @AdamGotheridge

    @AdamGotheridge

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios Thanks. I think I got it working for groove agent. The other requires a paid update. Oh well.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@AdamGotheridge 👍

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Idiot isn't the proper term, and as kindly as I can say it, sucker is a more adept word to use in this instance. These companies have suckered us into buying their software only to hit us with this insane "feature" that will cause the product to not work. This is unnecessary, especially since copy protection does not inhibit piracy. The only thing it does is harm the legitimate users, and of course provide support to a HUGE tax write off from the corrupt company employing said copy protection.

  • @NathanielPrinceCoulter
    @NathanielPrinceCoulterАй бұрын

    I used to hate ilok, it’s seemless now (mostly)

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    ILok is fine but I prefer the new Steinberg system.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Until it is not, and then you are screwed. And if you think this not the case look at how PACE (the makers of iLok), are pulling a Unity with JUCE.

  • @jjptech
    @jjptechАй бұрын

    If purchasing doesn't mean ownership, cracking doesn't mean piracy

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    I think that's not exactly how it works though!

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios actually it is how it works. Copy protection doesn't even hinder piracy. All it does in harm legitimate users, and support a HUGE tax write off for the corrupt companies that implement copy protection.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem28 күн бұрын

    What does it mean? Move over to the free stuff that is just as good or pirate it.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    27 күн бұрын

    To me it meant that I needed to upgrade the software that was still running with the e-licenser. In my case that was a free upgrade.

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69Ай бұрын

    The worst. This company.

  • @JakeJacobMusic
    @JakeJacobMusicАй бұрын

    Sounds like it's probably time to move on. Besides Cubase Pro 11, 12 & 13 work like garbage on my i9 14900k.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Yes it’s time 😋. Cubase 13 should work fine on those new Intels by the way. Contact Steinberg with your issue otherwise.

  • @JakeJacobMusic

    @JakeJacobMusic

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios Thanks for the heads up, I will 🖕

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    @@JakeJacobMusic 👍

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed time to support companies that don't intentionally inflect such pain on their customers.

  • @MrMikomi
    @MrMikomiАй бұрын

    I find this confusing, sorry, as confusing as the whole licensing system used by Steinberg. What does it mean by elicenser service shutting down? No more ELCC? No more soft licenses? No more usb licenses? I loathe the whole system used by Steinberg. It feels so ropey, so flaky, like it's held together with sticky tape and glue.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry it wasn't clear to you, maybe the linked first article in the description will help. Basically the old licensing system supports two license containers (places to store your licenses which are checked by the programs that you purchased): 1. The USB e-licenser. 2. The soft e-licenser which you can think of as a 'file' on your computer but it only works on the computer that it is on. You cannot move/copy this 'file'. Both of these old licensing containers will keep working after the e-licenser service goes down, but only as long as those license containers keep working. And that is probably not forever, as the USB e-licenser (#1) will break at some point and you will get rid of your computer (or it will) break which contains the soft e-licenser (#2). The video talks about how to deal with that.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    Of course it is confusing. Copy protection is not there to make your life better. It is a punishment that legitimate users must endure because of a corrupt position of an uncaring company. This is why it is best to support companies that do not subject their users to this sort of treatment.

  • @clown134
    @clown13426 күн бұрын

    I recommend just pirating plugins that you've actually purchased. it's not technically illegal to do that, and it's also not unethical in any arguable way possible. these types of drm cause more problems than they solve., and thank God for piracy.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    26 күн бұрын

    Not sure about the legality but frankly the copyright protections rarely cause me any issues in practice and I do like to be on the latest versions.

  • @_c_y_p_3
    @_c_y_p_328 күн бұрын

    I really hate these convoluted security messes. Just like I hate the idea of companies charging crazy prices that exclude the majority of people from ever using their products legally. The prices should be acceptable for the majority not just trustfund trash and gentrification spreaders who ruined my favorite cities to make them tent city shitholes where the locals gotta live in tents while corporations import workers from abroad to work at their TAX FREE companies. Oh I could rant endlessly on this topic. They are connected. Same reason people gotta ask a clerk to unlock the shaving cream is the same reason we gotta stop the rave to call up some outsourced call center employee to unlock shit on our own devices. Ok I stop, I am a snowflake, triggered, having a melt down here. 😳🙃🤪🤯🔥🔥🔥😳🙃

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    28 күн бұрын

    Are you ok again now? 😉

  • @PerfectKlaus
    @PerfectKlausАй бұрын

    Just avoid Steinberg, and avoid all these problems.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    These are solutions 😅. I love Cubase!

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios Copy protection is not a solution. It is a forced torture to be endured via what can be horrendous pain. It can be very expensive pain. It is a horrible thing to which a company would subject its users.

  • @PerfectKlaus

    @PerfectKlaus

    Ай бұрын

    I agree. Thise who wish to skip payments can find "fixed" versions anyhow, so this is just annoying paying customers. These times will be, for some people, be known as the dark ages, as a lot of software from this era must be activated online. Fortunately, some have seen the light and use just-in-time (when downloading) compiled binary files (personalized) instead, making both the vendors and the paying clients happy.

  • @bnjmnwst

    @bnjmnwst

    28 күн бұрын

    No problems for me. It works well.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    28 күн бұрын

    @bnjmnwst 👍

  • @dicktempelaar
    @dicktempelaarАй бұрын

    Heldere uitleg over iets waar ik erg onzeker over ben Maarten, ga er in het weekend meteen naar kijken want ik vind het ingewikkelde materie.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Bedankt en alvast succes!

  • @nicholsonjay4724
    @nicholsonjay472426 күн бұрын

    Sounds like lots of hassle.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    25 күн бұрын

    Not really. I like the new licensing system better myself.

  • @DanielaTocan
    @DanielaTocanАй бұрын

    Bullshit.. the old system was perfect. I do not update from 11 and 12. I use virtual machines on Proxmox servers means same time using up to 8 licenses… in my configuration it’s absolute trash…

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    I think for the majority it’s a vast improvement. For your very specific setup I would contact Steinberg.

  • @DanielaTocan

    @DanielaTocan

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios In Fact its like a lost of several thousand euros... vsl moved to iLok that is defacto acting like a trojan horse majority of Russians support Putins Ukraine war and supporting sexual abuse of the population. Majority is not an argument. my setup and studio is on a boat. and collaboration based. For luck Steinberg is just my secondary DAW. Mainly i use a 135000 Euro Fairlight EVO with Windows 10. when i am 4000 km at home away from studio i kann still use the DAW and collaborate. Steinberg will not buy new hardware for shure... i am just a hobby user and did recognize that Steinbergs Cubase will run a lots of cracks... We did handover them Our findings. ... Their network possibilities are still 20 years old.

  • @theprogrammerrolandmc3039

    @theprogrammerrolandmc3039

    27 күн бұрын

    @@DanielaTocan WTF drugs did you take today before you released BOT's onto the comments

  • @jaixaphoto
    @jaixaphoto18 күн бұрын

    So it is moneygrabbing cloudservice. Time to ban cloud licensing. Drain customers.

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    17 күн бұрын

    It’s convenient to use software in the cloud for ease of use. Just imagine that you’d have to wait until someone from Steinberg sends you a dongle on which they put your license

  • @tomaszwaszka3394
    @tomaszwaszka3394Ай бұрын

    I guess they want to lose long-time users...

  • @LanewoodStudios

    @LanewoodStudios

    Ай бұрын

    Well they have to upgrade some time. I guess that's always a bit of a pill to swallow.

  • @PHDWhom

    @PHDWhom

    Ай бұрын

    Hopefully it maybe just convinces more people to pirate the software. I sincerely hope that this gets more crafty people to create keygens and other things to work around this hostile action by Steinberg. Why do these people think they have an inherent right to more money from users?

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    @@LanewoodStudios They might have to upgrade, but they do not have to implement copy protection. And you do not need to swallow this corruption.

  • @chokocat9064

    @chokocat9064

    Ай бұрын

    @@PHDWhom Thankfully there are now numerous companies that do not inflict this sort of pain unto their customers. You can still be a legitimate user, support these kind of companies that actually care about the well being of their customers.

  • @PHDWhom

    @PHDWhom

    Ай бұрын

    @@chokocat9064 definitely. I am a little conflicted, because I would prefer to be running free/oss, but sometimes that doesn't fit the bill. I pay for Logic Pro every month for the iPad, and it works well for me. Still considering moving to Linux full time on the old Macbook. Reaper is a less shitty solution that doesn't treat the end user like a criminal.

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