Mainstream media p agr hamary ye issues discuss horahy hothy es qism ki healthy debates horahi hothi ....informed and enlightened debates ...tu Pakistan ki qismath hi badl jaye ...shame on our electronic media ...kindly app dono main stream media p b aya kary ...these kinda debates are must nowadays ...highly appreciate ...keeep up the good work ..keep these podcasts showering the much needed wealth of knowledge on us the misinformed youth

Excellent program. Ye tou mainstream Media pe chalna chaiye!

Discussion is good, but Osama Rizvi, the Host, should properly listen and should not be imposing his thoughts on the guest. Also draw some conclusion at the end of each segment. You are moving to next segment with open questions of already continued segment. And try not to say, Do u know, aaapko pata hai , such words while talking to guest, as it gives the impression as if u r telling the guest that he doesnt know

@osamarizvi7083

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback. 1) I tried to listen to everyone’s point of view 2) The fact that we are leaving things open contradicts with your earlier point that I am imposing my thoughts. I believe in open debate :) and leave it open so that we keep the debate going 3) Ahsan is like a brother and this wasn’t a guest based podcast - the whole scenario is it to be a debate, an academic one, rooted in academic discourse, yet punctuated by heated intervals😊

Ahsan is a polite man with more knowledge compared to Osama being aggressive and adamant. More respect to Ahsan 💯

How friendly and cutely they are debating with Arguments and opinions. And not getting furious that's the difference between educated and uneducated person 💕😘 32:55

your guest is making his points in very rational, logical and practical way.

MashAllah, it was a great debate by both of you, now, I have learned more about international monetary funds (IMF),the benefits of it, as well as the loss

Osama very cleverly kept the topic straight to the point 🎉

It's going to clear many myths. Such talks should be done on mainstream media.

The problem is Us. Not China, No IMF no America. The real question is why Pakistan constantly taking loans. ? Why is it normal norm for us now to take loans? Why our system is trash since 1960's?

Now that's the kind of exchange i love 😋 Two opposite views colliding and giving best juice 👍

Like this healthy discussion need of pakistan

According to the Beijing consensus, religion must be controlled or removed by the state, which is why Pakistan never adopted it. Democracy in Pakistan does not believe in its fundamental principle of secularism. The establishment and military budget allocation of Pakistan were not discussed.

@jakuttan001

Жыл бұрын

There is no democracy in Pakistan. Pakistan has never become a nation. It is still a geography. Jinnah was a hired man by American & British post world war 2 to create a rogue banana republic so that it becomes a deep state of their interest. If someone says there is a government then it is a democrazy. The Army recruits a govt, they then tries to built a agreement of loot this much money will be looted with consensus and for their labishingly luxuruous life. This continued b/w The consensus of loot continued and when ever they cannot reach a agreement when any govt there is a military coup, How in the world do you define democracy by military coup? Army - Sheriff family loot Army - Bhutto family loot Army - Imran khan loot. All these army bosses and polotical leaders are dual citizens.... They went from rags to riches looting the money from " US, UK, European union,Saudi, UAE, Qatar grants ". The Public in Pakistan are being fooled. The Pakistan is just a piece work of Indian subcontinent. What was life, history before 1947? So it is a fake artificial history and a epic of lies that was funded by UK & American, to radicalise a society. The funds left after Army, ISI, ISPR, Pak politicians loot went and Pakistan invested in " Islamisation & Jihadism ". The result, education only meant to be for privilege Pak punjab muslims... Rest gets shit . The public are born fools in Pakistan. A country that cannot manage its treasury wants some other country 's territory.. Kashmir. They sent terrorists under Jihadism sponsored, trained, schooled & radicalised by Pak Army, ISI, ISPR.. after they lost all 4 wars with no gain 1947 1965 1971 - The rise of Dhaka, Bangladesh born... Today they are far ahead than Pakistan.. 1999 - Kargil war. Pak army did not even collect their dead soldiers body after their narrative lost and it became clear soldiers partnered with Pak jihadists from illegally occupied PoK. The failure started from its creation.. No country will ever exist with religious identity and islamisation & their jihadism outcome =terrorism export to Afghanisthan, Iran, India. The foolish pak public still does not understand their GDP equivalent money is in foreign banks, foreign assets, relatives of Pak Army, ISI, ISPR, Bhutto, Sheriff,families &Imran khan. They should now urge to freeze their foreign bank accounts & assets. The greatest investment of Pak Army, ISI, ISPR and all these Pak politicians are " they were successful in making the public except these ruling families continue to be fools " They are all dual citizens either in UK, US, Ireland, Saudi, Qatar. When you grow terrorism, jihadism in your backyard, you should expect it will start to bleed you and not just your neighbour ". Pakistan introduced terrorism and exported to the world and subcontinent so it should eventually die from the same. As a mute spectator just like the whole world " we wish to see you die bitten by the snakes (islamisation of society & jihadism you guys invested from British hired agent Jinnah ) Good luck... Hope the worst is only yet to come. Your jihadists elements will tear you apart... They will unleash all devlish activities.... The current pakistanis can meet Jjnnah & these terrorists in hell. Your union still does not go away...

@Furries173

Жыл бұрын

India mein hindutwa ka raj khatam karlo pheley

@richardsking

Жыл бұрын

Islam is inversely proportional to secularism

Excellent discussion. Wbery informative

Strong arguments from both sides. The beauty of the podcast was its mood of discussion, that was lighter, respecting opinions of each others and last but not least i observed expert analysis with knowledge. Ahsan Tariq, you made this discussion worth it because of your precise and relevant analysis. Love ❤️

@mansoorrustmani6144

10 ай бұрын

😊😊

Idealism is no good if you cannot articulate your ideal vision. "It should be something better" is not idealism, it is Escapism.

Anxiously waiting for next part💫

Good podcast, the host is knowledgeable unlike other podcasts and kept the other guy in check.

I want to read the research studies on IMF debtors you're quoting in this video. Please provide link/source.

Sir Ahsan Tariq was not let to speak, he's a great man with great knowledge

Such an intellectual debate!

Thanks a lot

My favorite,but opponent sir Ahsan ...very interesting talk with your slim smile .. zeberdast

Valuable debate ....you guys are doing very well.

MASHA ALLAH.. bahut arse k baad aisa controversial topic isee tarah muhabbat mein with arguments discuss karna world times waln ne banaya hai... Geo both Sir Ahsan and Sir Usama .. aj bahut maza aya❤❤❤❤😍😍🌹🌹

it's basically what Ahsan said in the very beginning. Do what IMF asks you to when it gives the money. I guess the main issue isn't who gives you the dollars, it's the structural changes you need to bring. If your state is willing to implement policies which could bring growth then I think it doesn't matter who offers you the helping hand. It's true we haven't, till now, materialized any IMF plan in its true spirit. India and many others have done it and they aren't dependent on IMF anymore.

The biggest problem of Pakistan is its externalization of its problems. IMF is not there to distribute free doles to irresponsible countries. A country should be ashamed to go to the IMF 23 times. Get your act together and stop blaming the whole world for your problems.

@tusharagarwal4417

Жыл бұрын

Did they ask for ur ueless advice YOU FOOL

Sir can you please answer me from where you take all this information and how your your general knowledge is so high.please sir answer🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Healthy conversation 💓

IMF Spent 56% on Surveillance & Oversight 29% on Capacity Development and only 15% spent on lending, so according to this IMF neither a bank nor lending is its major role. IMF lends primarily, to countries with an actual or potential Balance of payment needs, as evident by depletion of foreign exchange reserve or depreciating exchange rate.

That's why sud interest is Haram.

osama saab form where you found such content related to topic pllzz tell us as well

It appears that one individual represents China while the other represents the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the United States. In my view, both countries and their financials institutes exhibit characteristics commonly associated with imperialism.

Loving the way of exchanging words in a decent way and the moment when usama 110% disagrees with ahsan but controlling his nurves and giving weightage to his arguments with counter attack.

Please do these more often 🙏🏻

Please add the point security for the tourism

Very impressive... Pakistani talent.

I like this guy voice very much ahsan tariq

Bhai ap log debate kam larh zeyada rahy ho......ek dosry ko moqa tou de....taky point clear cut sun tou saky hum.

keep Mr TARIQ"S mic on

Plz record podcast on China's economical policies and USA

Kya economic hitman ka Pakistan ki economic decline ke sath koi link he?

We need the full video, the arguments and tensions included that has been cut 😬 i have been following your debates and both of you are brilliant there's no shame in holding different perspectives, in fact its necessary.

Love these podcasts. Just one thing that is very annoying is those pop-up sounds (subscribe and like etc ). For God's sake, this is 2023 we all know the drill already.

Don't like the Host in this video Particularly... Bhai Guest boht acha bol rha hai bolnay do Plz.

What application is used to edit video in such a fantastic way please.

@vestedits

Жыл бұрын

Premium Pro

Agar ap bank me jake karz lete ho to bank time pe wapas be karz mangata he ose bande se jisne liya hu Magar imf ese nhi krta wo pichla karz chorh kar or zyada karz deta he or ye nahi poch ta ke wapas kon karega tmhara baap kabar se ot kar wapas karega Liken do or bad me pakistan ho hulam banao jese pehle angrezo ke hulam te bas os ka tarika badal gaya

IMF.. CURSE... HY...

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Hello sir, I am from India. I really like the debate or conversation. I understand there can be multiple aspects of taking loans from different institutions. But in your conversation I got confused about one point that is: Should IMF right off Pakistan's loan or should it release the committed amount. Because you said that IMF has right off for so many times, why not in case of Pakistan. While government is looking for current dispersal desperately. Thankyou if you can reply.

@despicablecon

Жыл бұрын

Under special circumstances and incentivized programs loans can be written off by IMF. Since Pak is not providing any such support so it is highly unlikely that IMF will extend such benevolence. The point here is that the country should be much more prudent in financial decision making so that the negative aspects of IMF policies should not influence the basic structure. IMF shoukd release the payment going beyond its normal line of work but that is again wishful thinking from a humble Pakistani.

Good debate but ya excellent hota agar aap ak dosry ko bat karny ka moka dety..

it would have been more informative, if only the guest mr Ahsan was allowed to speak

Must read 'economic hitman' to know about world financial order

wow osama rizvi the host convert in gust

Sir we want more of podcasts like this....best rivalry to witness

Yaar aapas mai hi fighting kamaal hai dunya hum p hansrahi hai or economy khelrahai ho yaqeen karen siwaye fight k khuch nahin learn kiya😕

why don't talkshows be like this?

Sir ki smile 🥰

@muhammadadnantariq1735

Жыл бұрын

killer 🤣

@sidraasghar8379

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadadnantariq1735 bhut zada😂

@muhammadadnantariq1735

Жыл бұрын

Goodness of sir is the reality based thinking and listen the arguments of his students very calmly and openly and argue logically...

Green shirt guy is emotional rather than rational 🤣

@rahulkaurav2362

Жыл бұрын

Too much emotion and one sided love for china. 😂

@ganeshs1657

Жыл бұрын

@@rahulkaurav2362 The mofos sold aksai chin Don't know what else is given for 99 year lease from gilgit. Either he is corrupted by Chinese dollars or dumb . Leaning towards first

ask this man what CPEC delivered till now ,it's a fail project given to amateur non productive ,non competitive market like pakistan

It would be great if Ahsan Tariq had this debate with Sir Athar Mansoor. Although, Osama is good but lacks facts and debating skills.

29:10 bhai LUMS was established in 1985 and moved to 100 acres campus in 1993, howcome Ahsan concluded that LUMS was established after funding start coming after 2001.

@tusharagarwal4417

Жыл бұрын

Uski marzi tainuu kii

@despicablecon

Жыл бұрын

"USAID has had a long-standing relationship with LUMS. The agency contributed generously during the early years of LUMS to construct the new campus. The MNBSP has played an integral role in supporting LUMS to make quality education attainable for talented students. Apart from this, USAID in partnership with HEC has also funded various research projects across different schools at LUMS."

Brics bank may get bigger with saudi coming into it. I agree India still have much to do to get upto level of China.

Sir Ahsan is a gem of a person. ❤

Bht patience h geust me, halnky host mai honi chahye,host na hi bolta tu bahter tha.

larai na kro bhai hahahaha

Why is pakistan not dumping america and moving to china full time.

@despicablecon

Жыл бұрын

The over-reliance of pakistan towards America comes with the baggage of history which can't be let go all of a sudden. Geopolitics takes a central role and doesn't allow independent foreign policy prerogatives.

You can clearly distinguish that shia community is more rational and has more connection with modern education all over the same is in lucknow with a predominant ahia population

Wah wah.. Begging to write off debt is realism🤡 pura bikaris gaaliya detae hai America ko. Phir bolte ki karja maaf kar do. Ye kaun sa logic hai bro. Ask your jaan China to write off loans If they write off loan you can restart funding terrorism. 🤡

How much does Pak export to China. If the EU and US stop importing from Pak, it will collapse.

@tusharagarwal4417

Жыл бұрын

Tujhe Matlab HARAMZADE

@kalyanmds

Жыл бұрын

@@tusharagarwal4417 Tujhe mirchi kyu lag raha hai Madarchod.

onions have become unaffordable in pakistan, but farmers in india have stopped selling onions because the price has crashed. So, if you can work out a detente with India -you can get onions from india.

Fa

Ya tu english bolo ya urdu ky clear smaj ajye plz

I wish the host would SHUT UP when the guest is trying to argue a point. Very frustrating

اگر امریکہ ہمارا قرض معاف کر دے تو اس کا ہم پر کنٹرول ختم ہو جائے گا. ہماری اشرافیہ اور آئی ایم ایف وغیرہ کا ایک باہمی بقا کا تعلق ہے دونوں ایک دوسرے کو زندگی دیتے ہیں. مستقبل قریب میں آئی ایم ایف معاشی پالیسیاں بناۓ گی اور ہماری ذمہ داری اسے نافذ کرنے کی ہو گی.

instead of talking about development, industrialization, and reform issue these idiots are discussing which hegemon amon west and China is better sugar daddy 😂, full externalization of problems and issue , look inwards ,india also went to imf but we had self respect and determination to come out of it

@despicablecon

Жыл бұрын

Quite right. India has made a lot progress towards restructuring its economic portfolio since the early nineties. We can learn a thing or two from it.

It is quite funny to see these 2 clowns talking about IMF .