sorry for the poor quality images and drawings that don't compare as much, I just put art that I could check was made by the artists, I'll edit the video over time until it looks good

@modauth

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, I think you did an awesome job, especially comparing artist with a similar style :) Thanks for your videos

Art-wise they are closer than i expected, i guess the main reason why manga is dominating the sales is art + actually good plot .-.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally agree, most stories are a lot better when it comes to Manga

@l0kk016

3 жыл бұрын

@UCFcNxTkOw4ZWNtsyu1p7R1Q honestly it's kind of hard not to... For me at least there's 3 types of recent western comics; a re-boot from old stories, an woke-ass shitstorm; or a rare hidden gem. Two of wich are really bad, for me at least re-boots are around 80% worthless plot-wise, the woke ones i won't even mention. I personally can't not judge them, which is unfortunate but... And for manga there are multiple types of good mangas and they are pretty common.

@sebhaar

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s mainly cause comics are hugely restricted in the characters/ worlds they can use. Where as each manga is completely unique and different from one another, particularly regarding characters.

@l0kk016

3 жыл бұрын

@@sebhaar i honestly don't think it's because it's "restricted", but more like a lazzyness safe zone that whoever is in charge of choosing the stories has... Like, manga magazines is basically a free for all competition to be the best and stand out, while comics are like "hey here's another spiderman, bet ya all those 30yo will buy it for nostalgia"

@sebhaar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I get that, I just mean restricted in the sense that for the most part they don’t have the liberty to create new characters, and as you said kinda have to rely on characters that have existed for 30 years and put a new spin on them. Where as in manga there’s not that odd prerequisite.

today's mangaka's are to the next level

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

True

@sarov7658

2 жыл бұрын

They hav to cause the competition is hard

This really showed me how much western artists are all stuck drawing the same superheroes. Just for that I’d give the win to the mangaka

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s the downside I guess.

@asigmanamedligma333

3 жыл бұрын

Not really they're other companies that has characters written well

@MixerDixer96

2 жыл бұрын

So?

@asigmanamedligma333

2 жыл бұрын

@@MixerDixer96 so what?

@MixerDixer96

2 жыл бұрын

@@asigmanamedligma333 what's the difference if western artists draws the same characters?

As an aspiring artist I really admire different manga styles

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Which artists do you like most ?

@pennymcsquee5584

3 жыл бұрын

@@modauth one of my all-time favorites is Oda because of the work he puts into One Piece, and horikoshi because of his amazing sketches, but I generally like to look at a lot of different styles. I love western styles too, but I just have a preference for manga

@gaming1zanagi-1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@pennymcsquee5584 welp Oda did have a way to make his character feels organic and had a sense of distance that his manga's panelling is rather rich and unique. Also Oda is a master of caricature and arguably gives us a great storytelling to the point where he gives a perfect expressions to the characters to show their emotional states that you can tell each character have a distinct emotion in them or not.

If this western artists did more then drawing dc and marvel comics, I would have probably known about them a lot sooner. As good as their art is, most of the time they stop the story short from continuing. Eather they reboot it, remake it, never touch it for years, or just completely cansel them. I also am not interested in reading houndreds of pointeless stories that don't matter in the slightest.

I love how manga artists have full creative liberty to draw what they want, design characters tey want, and tell the stories they want. Its kinda unfortunate western comics are often stuck doing the same superheroes, but there are still exceptions like Moebius and Mike Mignolia

@kingofgeese4904

Жыл бұрын

Mignola’s the goat of comics. And Robert Kirkman

@orenges

10 ай бұрын

Moebius is a korean disturbing flick

Epic battle, both sides had really great artists than I imagined.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

True words 😁 that was hard to decide 😅

I really love gow balanced the art was . Very ccomparative. Kinda proves comics world wide all are a shared world of ingenuity and talent

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the compilation was awesome. I feel like the art styles where pretty comparable to each other

East and Western artist are inspired by one another that's why works look similar, but different. I couldn't say ones better than the other when both draw off each other for inspiration being an artist is basically being inspired by other artist and making your own thing. There's no way I could sit down and say "Yeah this is better than that." when both are absolute killer in their own ways.

Weird that they didn't had Yasuhisa Hara in the list. He's the mangaka from kingdom. And junji ito should definitly get mentioned, when its about unique artstyles

@umaru6235

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and Naoki Urusawa

@night9200

2 жыл бұрын

And Tite kubo

@w.s6124

2 жыл бұрын

There are many more mangakas with absolutely fantastic artwork which were not mentioned and could have easily kept up with the comic art...

I'm more into manga art than western comic book art. One of the reasons are that Mangakas have really tight deadline compared to western comics and they had to deliver that quality in that deadline so mangakas are easy win for me I remember when I was reading Doomsday Clock I had to wait for more than a year (November 2017 - December 2019) for just 12 issues Meanwhile for a manga its either weekly or monthly with that quality so its easy win for mangaka for me

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s right. Not sure if the pressure is good or bad though. They definitely have to deliver high quality in a much smaller time frame

@eraba661

3 жыл бұрын

@@modauth Tight deadline are kinda complicated issue If I'm a artist I want to have some rest too but if I'm a reader I want chapters more frequently But artists can't leave their fanbase dry too, like when I read Doomsday Clock I have forgotten about previous issues which is a really bad experience If I were a mangaka I would like to give everyone chapters on time so maybe this is different for each person

@luce3

2 жыл бұрын

@@modauth The pressure is defenatly bad since a lot of mangaka get sick easely form overworking themselves thats why One punch man has godly artwork but chapters come out slower and have double the page count of a normal chapter

@ozzi1113

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you on that special having to wait for a long time can also kill the hype mood like for example King in black hahaha still loved it tho

@nathansteele4358

2 жыл бұрын

But comic books Deliver 12 40+ page issues a year, overall they’re delivering the same amount of content, but because it’s less frequent it gives less impact. With the amount of coloured illustrations they’re demanded a month, they’re under just as much pressure

"I never really was into realistic art style but I'm into more stylized art" Yes I agree. I think realistic art are overrated , the thing is I don't see any personality in most art drawn realistic

@hydroking2969

2 жыл бұрын

yeh and i hate the irony when people say all anime look the same but all comics have the same realistic look, bruce wayne, clark kent, reed richard all looked like chin chisel white men with neat hair, especially during the 1960s. Now of course comic and manga art do not not look the same nowaday especially, iban coello art does not look like jim lee and ericho oda art looks nothing like kentaro mirua art.

@_NguyenDinhKhoi

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh it come down to preferences

@WinZacianGraal

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the realism with realistic art style. I think that's what makes it good; comic's/mangas's sense of fanstay is lost when it is applied there.

@TheVarrio

2 жыл бұрын

JoJo's artstyle: let me introduce myself

@Ultras_450

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheVarrioberserk's, Slam Dunk's, Monster's art style: hold my cup

Hard disagree there on Steve Ditko. The dude was a legend. He perfected the 9-panel grid and his moody style laid the groundwork for Frank Miller. Not to mention the slick inking, dynamic expressions and hands. Seriously look at how well he uses hands to make characters come alive. Plus his character designs are iconic - Spidey, Dr. Strange, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, Mysterio, Vulture, Electro, Kraven, Lizard, J. Jonah Jameson and on and on.

@glassofgas8631

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I believe chosen art doesn't represent full potential of both sides. Like could creator of this video find high quality trippy art of Ditko?

Modauth : *uploads Comic artists vs Mangaka - Who Will Win* me : wait a minute, they're different?

@yang2171

3 жыл бұрын

You…

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Well, not really 😁 but the styles have developed differently

I think mangakas are still the better ones, as they just have to show all the features in black and white all the time, while comics also can rely on colour sometimes. It was a really head on head ones tho, every artist in this video was amazing including you

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

The color one is a good point, I didn’t even think about this 😮

Personally I love Mangakas more, and they are on another level that is an unreachable infinite level.♾ Or more like GOD LEVEL.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same 😊 there are epic artists on both sides though

@daniela_796

3 жыл бұрын

@@modauth yeah you’re right there a lot of comic artists that are super good at doing super detailed and very realistic characters with so much emotion in the art. But I love really love my Mangakas, they hit different. Honestly because I feel some Mangakas characters emotions and stories on a personal level.✋😭

@daniela_796

3 жыл бұрын

@@modauth Oh yeah also manga plots are the best. They have cool and crazy story plot twist that are so addicting to read. And sometimes have very unique plots and characters too.😁

@goatedlogic

3 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree. Comic artists are so underrated, and I find them more cool but that's my opinion

@justsomegirlwithamustache3391

3 жыл бұрын

​@@goatedlogic i second that ,because of one thing ANATOMY

For the next episode you can react to Shigenori Soejima. He is the artist of the Persona video games ( Manga/Enemy style). He has a very interesting aproach that will definitly blow your mind.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

That’s an awesome idea 😁 I love the Persona art style. Definitely have to check out if there are any videos

@arshianafisahaque276

2 жыл бұрын

What is enemy style???

If u like murata artwork u should prob read eyeshield 21 its another work of murata about american football wth amazing action scenes

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s definitely on the list, only heard good things about it

Since you love the uniqueness of JoJo, i will reccomend this manga artist Nakayama Atsushi, is my favorite manga artist of all time, i know is a big statement, his art is insane i don't know how well can i describe that, but insane i think it's appropriate, i wonder if you'll like that.

No one can beat mangakas, when it comes to stories they tell.

@tjthetitan4841

2 жыл бұрын

The old marvel and dc stories are way better though

@ikichiziki87

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjthetitan4841 yeah, I can say that, but manga is one a whole different level. Try reading one piece.

@tjthetitan4841

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikichiziki87 ight bet

@QWERTY-gp8fd

2 жыл бұрын

@@tjthetitan4841 popularity says otherwise. manga was been always outselling comic since like 80s

@cesaredits6726

Ай бұрын

​@@QWERTY-gp8fd that's like saying dragon ball has better writing than berserk just because it's more popular

My main reason for giving manga the win is because when you get into a manga the art style there is is the one that stays the same unless the artist grows but comics issues by issue are plagued by having multiple artists

@bunceman4613

Жыл бұрын

I primarily read western comics and I get your point, some of my favourite comics are ones with a consistent team of creatives. However, I also read comics like Batman and TBH I kinda like how I can read two issues back to back with different artists in them. I like seeing the same character given love by so many talented artists.

@cesaredits6726

Ай бұрын

Am still waiting for something as good as moon knight 2016 when it comes to art

It is a bit unfair to compare incomplete non-colored drawings with complete mangaka drawings. for technique the absence of color is a lack in america while in japan with a different technique the perception of color occurs in our mind

@Greg12839

2 жыл бұрын

very good point

Considering that manga artist usually working at weekly deadline, they are tougher.

@Greg12839

2 жыл бұрын

that is mostly true for shonen manga artists and mostly the big name ones at that

@mymemestash9763

2 жыл бұрын

Moreover, most of mangakas that was mentioned here also writing their own story. It's like wow, how can you be so good at writing and drawing at the same time. That's a crazy talent!

@cesaredits6726

Ай бұрын

Comic artist have to deliver larger comics and works with different comic issues all at the same time , they also have to color and ect , there's also manga artist that work for marvel and dc , mostly marvel

From the look of her mask and how her mask ears are, she's Batgirl, not Catwoman. Also, thanks to this video, I have to find some of those artists now.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you could be right about that 😊

Honestly I feel like they didn't represent Murata's very well. Some of his works would blow most of these artist out of the water. Just look at Orochi or Boros's ship.

Both amazing and completely different

@modauth

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, true; Just pure epicness

6:58 The chatacter is Zet from the series Zetman

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

I want to see something like this again, but with eastern vs western illustrators. Just pure artistry, NO comic/manga artists(mostly), not biased by story, but visuals alone. The best way to do this. Don’t get me wrong, I love your videos man, but I feel as though you were a bit biased when it came to choosing which is better and honestly, I did as well(comics won for me tho mangas was really close) so yeah, here’s a like on the vid.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, it's actually a really good idea

@PowWowChikaBowWow6902

Жыл бұрын

@purpleluffy4851 that’s fair.

Was waiting for yusuke murata 😂🤣 his art work is just too godly specially the fight scenes, super dynamic

Man i swear if you not win Yusuke Murata sensei you must be Sleeping or something 🤣

I absolutely love Zetman and pretty much grew up reading it. I kept hoping he'd continue writing it but oh well

The pairings are really good most of the artist have such a similar feel with their artstyle

sui ishida is my favourite artists his manga covers is just love 💙

It's not about West vs East. It's about letting mediocrity and politics clash with ART. West has let talentless hacks run their comics and therefore most mainstream comics are sh*t. There are still really good Indie comics coming up so keep a look out for them. As for the East (Mainly Japan), Art takes precedent over politics.

Can you react to togashis live drawing of kurapika?

Some of those would definitely be tie to me it was a tough one . But i think manga woukda won in the end if it was me

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Felt bad to judge sometimes 😅

The character u see on katsura's art is zetman

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@thenothingman9090

3 жыл бұрын

Ya welcome

great video. you hurt me with Samura though lol

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

Most of them were so close 😅 also I felt terrible judging all those amazing artists. So happy you like the video

Ishida-sensei art is alway so beautiful to me

Part of the difference is the flow of fights. If you look at a lot of modern manga, you can follow the flow of the fight and you get each strike drawn out. I don't see this in comics as much anymore. You get a series of different hits and the art doesn't flow panel to panel as much.

mazukazu katsura charecter: jin zetman 7:01

@touchd1790

2 жыл бұрын

cool

Some Ways Comic Can Rise -They Need to Stop Rebooting -Darker Storyline -Better Character Design -Adding More Genre MoreThan Superhero -Better Art Style Marvel And Dc Is Fine They Just need To Take A Break

There's a documentary like video on the yt channel archipel on shinichi sakamoto that I think you'd really like.

@modauth

3 жыл бұрын

I will take a look at it 😊

Darrick Robertson has epic details he does Tank Girl also!

tite kubo????? bruh

Comic books have crazy art, but a manga artist has a week to draw 15-20 pages

There is so much variety and Originality in Manga Side.

The video you used had low res pictures of the mangas half the time while the Comics had clear images the whole time.

Panels are great but in Manga what's great is the Dynamism of the mouvements, the motions of the actions. That's why I prefer manga even when I tried to read Comics with great Art i couldn't keep going because it felt flat and slow in actions ( not all of them but most )

Yuseke murata is a god level artist.

shopping names has a limit..you can read

You chose Makoto Raiku! So happy!! That Managaka needs more administration. "Zatchbell" is and always will a Master piece.

I’m so glad my two favorite manga artists Yukito Kishiro (Battle Angel Alita) and Masakazu Katsura (Zetman) got a point!

@pc-9826

2 жыл бұрын

American comics lack in topics and that's why they are outdone by Japanese manga. Even unpopular topics like agriculture or journalism have their own mangas. In contrast, Comics be like: We aint draw if it's not superhero or lgbt lmao.

They should have put Hisa Masato next to Mike Mignola. Much more similar in style. Just check out the manga's Area 51, Jabberwocky and Grateful Dead. Mike still easily would win for his contribution to the medium, but at least you see similar vibe.

is western comic is always about DC's and Marvel's??

If you notice 70% of comics art is superhero theme. And for manga art, you cant tell what story in it. That why manga so popular now day

Does anyone know who is that character at 4:52 in Mike mignola's picture?

@sethinthehouse1

2 жыл бұрын

Lobster Johnson from Hellboy

the character for katsura is called zetman

One piece art style is soooo good

Makoto yumira was done dirty. Vineland saga art is so amazing

I love how he butchered the word "butcher"

I don't read western comics despite being American myself. But in all honesty I felt comic book art should have gotten a lot more points (tho I'm not sure if it should have won or not). Can anyone recommend how I can get into comics? It's kind of hard because they've been around very long.

@keremmazman3761

Жыл бұрын

You could try to start with image comics, boom, or vertigo titles, they mostly publish non-superhero comics. Series usually have definitive endings and usually same creative team does all of it. You could start with Saga, Y The Last Man, The Walking Dead, East of West etc. Or maybe shorter series like Extremity, Luther Strode trilogy, Daytripper, WE3 etc. After reading some titles like that look if a writer or an artist you loved have done any superhero work. They have probably done it. Start from there and branch out.

@Username12168

Жыл бұрын

@@keremmazman3761 Thx. I wasn't sure if I should have started with something more mainstream or not but many people say indie comics are a good start for people that like manga.

@keremmazman3761

Жыл бұрын

@@Username12168 most of them are done by people who does mainstream comics anyways. Just find people you like and use their works to enter mainstream comics. For example writer of East of West has worked on Avengers, Fantastic Four and X-Men.

I just now realised 89% of western comics are mostly just SuperHero comics I wonder where are the other genres of story

@glassofgas8631

3 жыл бұрын

Like everywhere else. You can find any genre in comicbooks. Also superheroes stories can have different sub genres. You can't blame artists when working on mainstream publishers gives bread and recognition

@Aman_Mondal

2 жыл бұрын

@@glassofgas8631 the thing is these days comic book stories are too repetitive and have gotten boring to the point that it pretty much the same everywhere I see and as you said working on mainstream provides the bread and butter but the things is most of that American population likes manga because it's not always about superheroes basically I saying to evolve the writing already it's like they are stuck in the 2000s with the mindset of 2021 with very woke writing

@glassofgas8631

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aman_Mondal dude tons of comics aren't about superheroes

@Aman_Mondal

2 жыл бұрын

@@glassofgas8631 But are they recognised then because the western audience has pretty much left Comics on the book shelf

@glassofgas8631

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aman_Mondal you mean hype wagon, a lot of people still enjoy western comics. I mean it seems like you don't really know about industry that much

Alan Moore, Frank Miller, Mark Millar, Joe Quesada, Chris Claremont, Brian Michael Bendis, Garth Ennis: *exist* Braindead "manga fans": CoMiCbOoKs DoEsN't HaVe GoOd PlOt

Yet mangas are way more popular and better selling nowadays. Anyways, the manga wins for me.

Joshua middletons style is close to the style ive been going for but a bit more casual manga styled body types and eyes

7:02 the character is zitman from the manga zitman

The thing just is that usually in manga the art is much more richer since they are not colored, so it in many ways needs to be than a basic western comic page wise. Like many pages are worth of what would be the cover art in western comics with many manga. There is ofc exceptions to both directions but in general I would say so. Especially when a manga get's established to the point that they don't need to rush new editions out. I do like both western and japanese art and comics so there is that but I just feel this doesn't quite represent the overall picture of where it is. Also with some artists it's just hard to not give it to them. Like for example Tetsuo Hara and Fist Of The North Star is legendary og stuff or to like Jim Lee even tho he does have cruches he seems to go a bit too many times even if he is so good. Then if you would have read like Transmetropolitan, Darick's work is just simply amazing even tho Hideo is also something else with Ichi The Killer etc. so it's really hard to make a judgment call if you don't know both, it's kinda up in the air with what you happen to see and if you know only another one ofc there will be a huge bias as with legends on pedestal (in most cases for a reason tho, but in some cases it Might be a bit outdated). It's anyway a lot preference based anyway. As someone who draws, some of the choices based on the pictures were just objectively baffling to me. Like for example the Jim Lee one even tho I didn't know the mangaka but goddamn. Another one was where the pics for Yukimura wasn't nowhere at the peak of the talent and he is against a legend of Todd but just objectively I'm not so sure about it being Todd as awhole. Still fun. I just wouldn't take it as too seriously u know.

I like both there's amazing artists and authors on both sides I grew up reading one of my favorite comics spawn prop the best character of all time and Todd's artwork is god tier then you have amazing manga like berserk and claymore which are two of my favorites you can't say one is better than the other when you got amazing talent on both sides and crappy ones too to say that one is better than the other is stupid it depends on what you read and by who in my opinion

It's a shame that so many western comics are cornered into the Marvel and DC characters. It's so repetitive.

@keremmazman3761

Жыл бұрын

Most of the artists in this video has non superhero artwork as well. But they are not as popular as superhero ones, so they didn't made it into this video.

this should be called batman vs manga ....

The manga's are more interested in me,and the stories were awsome and brilliant

It’s too bad that we couldn’t see the manga art because of the web cam....

Where is Togashi!!

Rest in peace Kentaro Miura

did you all notice how in the manga side there where more original works than in the comic side that everything was 90% DC or MArvel?

I like more art from Alex Ross just bc he make the ridiculous uniform realistic, is so fun.

You messed up on Makoto Yukimeira you should see his monthly art rather then the shonen because he switched during the early parts of Vinland Saga

yeah, mike mignola and todd mcfarlane just cant lose

Remember the big difference is that a lot of these artists for the comic books are (to my knowledge) from about 15-30ish years ago, while some of the mangaka shown are old as well a good chunk are still producing material, if you put the modern manga vs the modern comic book artist this would be even more of a blow out

@sethinthehouse1

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of the comic artists shown still work in the industry

I love David finch

And manga artist can also make a GREAT story

no travis charest?, oliver coipel, greg tocchini, hard to compare as western comics has so many restrictions and artists are like mind readers trying to visualize the writers thoughts unlike mangakas where they can do whatever they want

i am blown away by some of comic arts. I only read manga. so don't much about comic . but I have to mayn that was some crazy arts..both of them deserves it

i don't have any issue with both art style, but manga has different character and story. just like gege akutami, his art would look bad if you compare them with yusuke artwork, but jujutsu kaisen have an amazing storyline and plot. so that's why mangas are more popular than comic

Mangaka ofc both art wise and story wise it's better.

Prison school is the best design characters of all time🤣

Mangas are mostly show more expression

my first time in your channel u earn my sub dude. kudos

The character from Katsura is Zetman. I believe the manga is finished already. Katsura is a great artist who began his career with Romantic ecchi Shounen manga (he really knows how to draw his girls) but dipped from time to time in darker themes with monster-like heroes until he released Zetman.

Thanks to this, I found the artists who uses color but doesn't use shadows to it. It's just my style.

Tite Kubo, author of Bleach, also have a art beautiful, principally in Thousand-Year Blood War arc, thus as, Hiro Mashima (Rave Master, Fairy Tail and Edens Zero), Atsushi Ohkubo (Soul Eater and Fire Force), Yuki Tabata (Black Clover) and Shiro Usazaki (Act-Age) Edit: if my english are bad, sorry, i'm Brazilian, it's normal a bad english on here.

"who would've thought mangakas would win", nahh it's decided in the first second of this video. mangaka will always win in my opinion.

I had some differing opinions in regards to points for both sides but yeah overall these were some difficult choices.

No Junji Ito? Sad...

Man, I really want to get back to drawing.

Where is Tite Kubo?

Man comics are just superheroes

Can't believe Kubo wasn't on that video