Nobody was disrespected by the media more than Kobe. He had better years than the entire league and yet didn’t get the mvp. It was crazy.

@ekirakosyan

3 ай бұрын

The league had to give mvp to Nash because they were pushing the Euro league style narrative at the time to change the entire game and rule book… it was completely strategic. Kobe should have had at least 3 mvp’s instead of the 1.

@victor-pw9im

3 ай бұрын

When did he had better years entire year except 2006?

@staceyshakur7328

3 ай бұрын

How was Kobe more disrespected than lebron 😂😂 shit is comical!! Lebron own teammates hated on him

@JayDay32

3 ай бұрын

@@staceyshakur7328 that’s not disrespectful, that is speaking truth if they played with him. Disrespected is the media pushing narratives directly against a player even when teammates are saying they are great.

@GoatReactz

3 ай бұрын

​@victor-pw9im kobe was the best player in the league when you take into account both ends from 01 maybe 02-10 Sp 8 or 9 years no debate.

Kobe was better than LeBron and will ALWAYS be! My opinion ❤❤❤💯💯💯

@shawnkeith2414

3 ай бұрын

I AGREE HELL YEAH

@gowthamvarmadantuluri6385

3 ай бұрын

Lebron far better than Kobe ever,my opinion

@shawnkeith2414

3 ай бұрын

@@gowthamvarmadantuluri6385 hell no

@shawnkeith2414

3 ай бұрын

KOBE IS BETTER THAN OVERRATED LEBRON

@brentwoods1401

3 ай бұрын

Bron definitely not overrated. Dude is special for real. Still as a basketball player I’m taking Kobe any day. I will say Bron will be the most accomplished ever. IMO that doesn’t equate to being the best. Still a unique talent

We are the Kobe soldier… we protect his legacy 💪🏼

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

That’s not doing anything to Kobe Legacy saying he number 3 instead of number 2 because you love Kobe that don’t mean LeBorn is better you see you are fascinated with how Kobe looks doing it and how LeBorn is the easy way of doing he doesn’t look flashy but results are the same maybe better

@terrysanders914

4 ай бұрын

Because the media trying to erase the late great KB24

@richardloney6251

4 ай бұрын

Yes we protect Kobe legacy.

@king-ghost1027

4 ай бұрын

Kobe is my favorite player and he's my number 3

@octaviousmotley7653

4 ай бұрын

Facts.. all in that order. PROTECT HIS LEGACY

Imagine how many championships Kobe would have had if the NBA hadn't stopped the Chris Paul trade.

@06YAMAHA-R1_BANDIT

3 ай бұрын

Yeah maaan those suckers had Vetoed that trade of Chris Paul coming to the Lakers in those early years from happening Immediately because that could have very well been another 3 peat in the making Seriously

@Brandon-tb5st

3 ай бұрын

Atleast 6, probably 7.

@koog008

3 ай бұрын

man the nba owners were up in arms for that trade. they KNEW if that trade happened. no team would be winning championships. then kobe wouldnt have gotten acl by overtaxing himself to get them to the playoffs. sigh.

@Ayou0811

3 ай бұрын

Because just pau is enough for kobe to go 3 straight finals and won back to back. Imagine CP3 feeding Kobe. But nba aren't scared of Lebron teaming up with Dwade and Bosh.

@06YAMAHA-R1_BANDIT

3 ай бұрын

@@Ayou0811 yeah they let that cry baby ass lebron go and create the 2nd Super team of 28 piont scorer D Wade and 27 point scorer C Bosh which shows u he needed all starts to find a ring ,including R Allen riding the bandwagon too 🤣

Kobe is top 2 ever

@tjones617

3 ай бұрын

No he's not

@suckafreeglobetrotters1297

3 ай бұрын

Facts famo

@suckafreeglobetrotters1297

3 ай бұрын

@@tjones617 lebrenda is trash

@GunsNGames248

3 ай бұрын

He is​@@tjones617

@gowthamvarmadantuluri6385

3 ай бұрын

Never

They hate Kobe but suck it up he’s simply better than princess James 😂😂

“You’ll never see my flaw bc I have a co-star who specializes in what my flaw is”… that was explained perfectly!!!!!

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

It's done so smoothly you almost don't notice it huh?

It’s not just Jordan’s greatness as the goat but it’s also the way he did it with such grace and unmatched style. I can watch MJ clips over and over. Even a miss dunk from MJ is worth a rewind

Let's not forget that Kevin Love was already an All Star, 2 times all NBA and averaging 26 points per game, as well leading the NBA in rebounds at 13 per game before he came to Cleveland.

@Ninjersey1

4 ай бұрын

And he made him into a spot up shooter and the team scapegoat that caused him to age rapidly from the stress Lue aswell smh toxic

@BlackMamba-op9nc

4 ай бұрын

​@@Ninjersey1facts 💯 Same shit Legone did to bosh

@malakaijacobs8033

4 ай бұрын

@@BlackMamba-op9ncmade them both champions. To win you have to sacrifice what’s the problem

@tyeds2078

4 ай бұрын

​@@malakaijacobs8033the point is everybody keep bringing up Shaq when it comes to Kobe but forget that LeBron James all his championships he had All-Star help people forget Kobe was a rookie with Shaq joined the Lakers

@malakaijacobs8033

4 ай бұрын

@@tyeds2078 that’s true and Kobe was dominating while he was with Shaq in 01 & 02.i cant rlly say that for 2000. But man Shaq is not no regular all star. Shaq was the best player in the nba and Kobe was top 10 at the time

Jordan was The Teacher. But Kobe was The Master. Mamba 🐐

@bainer3052

2 ай бұрын

LeBron is still an apprentice.

@earlbennett4865

2 ай бұрын

The teacher doesn't show you ALL of his work. Jordan was the Master, Kobe Bryant was the exception to the rule by perfecting his teachings from the Master.

@jayd7531

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kobe jus better 💯

@Mandownsports

8 ай бұрын

I agree

@angel-ij4xv

4 ай бұрын

same here they hype lebron up to much

@mikeygentry8839

4 ай бұрын

How is kobe better?

@angel-ij4xv

4 ай бұрын

@@mikeygentry8839 because he is that's why

@mikeygentry8839

4 ай бұрын

@@angel-ij4xv you cant be better them someone that avg more pts reb ast stl blks shot a higher fg an 3% then you lmao

When the gold medal was on the line, everyone including Lebron looked to Kobe to take over the game and bring home the win for the US If you're the GOAT, you're not deferring to someone else in a close game on the biggest stage

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Facts

Here is what LeBum the "Jimmy" is flawless at!!! Stacking the Talent!!! Chasing away rookie Talent!!! Barging!!! Demanding Fouls!!! Flops!!!

@davidangeron3365

8 ай бұрын

LeBum the "Jimmy" would have demanded that Chicago trade away Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant!!!! Mount Rushmore to hell!!! You Mount Rushless!!!

@Mandownsports

8 ай бұрын

Lol 😆

@Mandownsports

8 ай бұрын

@@davidangeron3365 now I do agree with that. Lebron's play style has no use for Pippen. He needs catch and shoot players or screen and roll bigs

@frede.simsjr.3780

4 ай бұрын

LeBron's mid-range and to the basket percentage should be higher he's like 3 inches taller and 50 lb heavier

@user-wn8ig9pk4c

4 ай бұрын

That's B.S.

We already know kobe was better than lebron james amazing footwork skills killer instinct high basketball ball iQ Rip kobe bryant

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

JJ Reddick don't seem to know that lol 😆

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

And LeBron got more points and took less shoots better shooting percentage 53 percent Kobe 42 percent more rebounds more steal more assists more block shots I guess all those numbers don’t count in a numbers game he played the same game that Kobe played but there numbers don’t match up now you going to say longevity I guess shouldn’t count his numbers because Kobe skill set on taking care his body stop from longevity the fact LeBron did it at a high level longer but to you that don’t count

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

@@ivorywatts3881 nah bro, it's over. Kobe is better

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

@@Mandownsports why because you say so Basketball IQ and the Numbers say different now you say who took the most shots per game who took the worst shots per game causing a lower percentage who had the pretties jump shot who have the best foot work who played with the AAU style and look good doing it but 39,000 points beat 32,000 points by 7,000 points looking pretty and getting the job done is same but more effective

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

@@ivorywatts3881 too many holes and flaws in Lebron's game and Kobe perfected almost everything

This is the perfect conversation and perfect answer to the question… “who the GOAT is”?? Michael Jeffrey Jordan… The perfect player. Kobe second.

@Bob-te3le

4 ай бұрын

Easily Jordan and Kobe. The rest are trash if I'm being honest. Jordan and Kobe are the only 2 players ever with 0 weaknesses in their games.

@suckafreeglobetrotters1297

4 ай бұрын

@@Bob-te3le the only other modern day player doing it big like them is curry

@virginiacoleman2340

4 ай бұрын

Lebron James was the point guard/facilitator/ball hog!!! He had the ball 85% of the time!!! And when didn't have the ball, he was taking a rest on the bench, in street clothes doing load management or out for fake injuries, dodging the league from testing him for Steroids!!

@jordangoat2654

3 ай бұрын

@@Bob-te3leall facts

@jordangoat2654

3 ай бұрын

100% and fun to watch.

But yeah, even if you’re talking about resumes, I don’t know why people make this argument that LeBron’s got the best career ever because to me when I look at it when did we start taking points away from guys for just sticking it out on one team and playing the cards they were dealt? Like you have people making this argument that LeBron’s the goat because he’s gonna have three statues in three different areas and as a Lakers fan I don’t think what he’s done in a Lakers uniform constitutes a statue. But when is building a super team? That’s built to win in three years and then when that team is aged out, you go onto to find another super team and just, keep team jumping two different All-Star teams better than just figuring out how to win and maybe just doing it with one other Allstar? It kills me the reason with Kobe that so many points are taken away for the stupidest little things, but in these other instances No points are taking away from LeBron for team, jumping from All-Star team to All-Star team.

@diegochavez6203

4 ай бұрын

Na he'd probably only get one in Cleveland Not getting one with the Lakers unless he wins one more and Miami is doubtful as well

@HasanMustafaa-en1tj

4 ай бұрын

Kobe has missed more shots than any player in NBA HISTORY. LeBron hung a 30 pt TRIPLE DOUBLE ON ANDRE. In the NBA FINALS. So jjs opinion doesn't count because he is not a coach. LeBron is 1st in all time scoring , 4in all time assists and top 10 all time rebound. This is just another trash video to try and bring down LeBron and elevate Jordan and Kobe.

@sirfrescobar4830

4 ай бұрын

@@HasanMustafaa-en1tj Lebron has the most turnovers and quickly approaching most missed shots, and that triple double he averaged in the nba finals resulted in what?

@phuckyoutube9631

4 ай бұрын

You said “ to me” and how YOU feel. Bron stats are better as an individual player. Chips are team efforts.

@kobesystemyourwelcome8817

4 ай бұрын

Bruh that's the same shit ESPN probably u and everyone else try to do with Kobe discredit him and lift up Bron come back with a lie and say u don't​@@HasanMustafaa-en1tj

He is being call the Black mamba for a reason. Killer instinct. LBJ doesn’t have that and more.

@mikeygentry8839

4 ай бұрын

Most playoff game winner’s ever but doesn’t have a killer instinct 🤣🤣🤣

@tellthetruthrightnow

4 ай бұрын

You do know Lebron has more game winners than Kobe.

@drroullette1218

4 ай бұрын

@@tellthetruthrightnow stats sheet is over rated. If we go by stats, Vince Carter and Ray Allen are better than Kobe. Which is not true.

@mikeygentry8839

4 ай бұрын

@@drroullette1218 no the stats dont say they are better then kobe but if stats didn’t matter why do we keep them🤔

@drroullette1218

4 ай бұрын

@@mikeygentry8839 I don’t think stats tell the whole story but we as an American do love stats. GOAT is not a true statement anyway. I don’t like that term. Great during his time or era, I would agree to that. Once you determine someone as GOAT and when/if the new generation comes along and plays better, you can’t denounce the guy because he is already in history as a GOAT. The new generation will be considered as Goat in his time/era. We all could speculate how MJ would do in this era or how Lebron would do in MJ era so on and so forth. But the truth is will never know.

JJ wasnt talking like this when kobe was alive but also for 3 straight years kobe beat the teams who eliminated lebron and shut lebron down and kobe was more efficient in those series!!08 vs spurs,09 vs magic and 10 vs celtics!!End of debate they played same teams in playoffs and kobe was more efficient and won while lebron shot 35% in multiple playoff series yet still got kobe MVP awards

@Bob-te3le

4 ай бұрын

Media. And if LeGM won most of his mvps with loaded squads then how is he the most valued player ? Like D Rose was a true mvp etc.

Kobe is the Jordan 2.0

@danilojones1618

3 ай бұрын

Na there was only one Mike he never had a dominant center he played with role players the did it thru the draft Horace got jealous over how he was being used he only went to the allstar with the bulls..

@Dirty01

3 ай бұрын

Wtf Kobe is MJ 3/4

I grew up in this era, Kobe was by far the better player. More heart, lockdown defender, clutch, true champion who didn’t have to form one super team after the other for 20+ years.

@Ltsuek

4 ай бұрын

Yes

@arizonaFIREent

4 ай бұрын

Ive been watching the NBA since 92 and never thought kobe was special he just chucked up a bunch of shots while Shaq was dropping 35 every finals

@suckafreeglobetrotters1297

4 ай бұрын

​@@arizonaFIREentwrong he won 2 without shaq 😂

@RyanMrTsunamiBishop

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I grew up in Jordan's era. Jordan & Kobe are the 2 best nba players I've ever seen in my life. 💯

@RyanMrTsunamiBishop

4 ай бұрын

​@@arizonaFIREentThat is not true at all bruh. The stats are public knowledge, go look at em.

jj is still salty kobe cooked him during the 2009 finals. jj, in one interview said he held his own defending kobe, and even made some stops during that final series. that mfkn lying player had the guts to say he got some stops. when you defend kobe, as pat bev said, you really can not do something about stopping him, if he miss, it's because of him just missing the shot, not because of your defense.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Very true

@diegochavez6203

4 ай бұрын

Yup same as Jalen rose Kobe cooked his as worse than MJ yet he meat ride MJ hard 😂

@jjohnson4013

4 ай бұрын

Kobe was avg 32pts 7asst 5reb in the 09 finals jj is just drinking his own kool aid

@bekimcachero4683

4 ай бұрын

@@jjohnson4013 kobe single-handedly destroyed magic in that series. However, I am not discounting the fact that the rest of the Lakers chipped in to secure the trophy.

@bekimcachero4683

4 ай бұрын

@@jjohnson4013 their best defensive players (Pietrus and Dwight) were even clueless on how to stop Kobe then.

Now we’re talking real basketball IQ

This is by far the best explanation and breakdown that I've ever heard concerning the best ever debate between Jordan and Lebron!!!!!

@Mandownsports

3 ай бұрын

Aw man thanks bro! That's dope

Kobe Bryant won back 2 back championships with an all star player, which was Paul gasol at that time, and he wasn’t even a superstar, and then they went out to beat the Celtics, which was the first super team created Which acquired Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. Kobe Bryant beat this super team. The first super team could not stop Kobe Bryant. So then after LeBron James join a super team with Dwayne Wayne and the Miami heat which Dwayne Wayne already had gotten Miami Heat a Championship by himself. Kobe Bryant is definitely better than LeBron. Kobe is Goat contender with Jordan still But the NBA for some reason scams kobe out.

@Mandownsports

7 ай бұрын

I agree 100%

@frede.simsjr.3780

4 ай бұрын

Facts No Doubt absolutely 100

@frede.simsjr.3780

4 ай бұрын

Not only did Kobe win one more but he lost 4 Less

@rjchi7317

4 ай бұрын

That laker team was so deep. No they didnt have superstars but they had 3 Allstars on that team and a deep bench. That laker team was the best team on paper.

@octaviousmotley7653

4 ай бұрын

They love scamming Kobe and that so weak

Also don’t forget that K Love was an MVP candidate the year prior to joining

LeBroom turned the NBA into his own AAU league!!🫢😁

My bad at just catching this podcast. This breakdown was incredible. You showed tremendous insight into the topic.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro, better late than never

@richardturner1063

4 ай бұрын

@@Mandownsports You sir are a 🤡 The man is about to become the 1st 40,000 point player and you are talking 💩about freethrows and no bag and look at his footwork. SMDH The only guy top 100 in all categories ALL TIME - 1st Points, 4th Assists, 7th Steals, 7th 3-pointers, 32nd Rebounds, 90th Blocks. GTFOH

We're going to tear lebum James apart when he retires and I'm here for it...

God bless u for telling the truth

JJ talks like Lebrons resume is categorically better than Kobe's. It's not.

@TheRealReal337

4 ай бұрын

He talks like his Klutch media credentials are safely intact for life

@GodBody-Alius

4 ай бұрын

It is 😂

@Greg-oi7wo

4 ай бұрын

​@@GodBody-Aliusright

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

You truly trying tell me the basketball world that Kobe résumé is better than LeBorn tell the basketball world what constitute a basketball résumé? All time leader in scoring number 4 all time in assists And with over ten thousand rebounds and counting got more wins than Kobe more steals than Kobe higher shooting percentage than Kobe more finals appearances More blocks than Kobe better playoffs stats anyone in the history off the game that includes Michael and Kobe now you tell me what constitutes a NBA résumé? Because where sets the NBA Resumes should have a picture of LeBron when you speak of NBA resume

@Greg-oi7wo

4 ай бұрын

@@ivorywatts3881 big ol fat facts

You really brought it home in this commentary good job!

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro!

This is spot on I have said this about LeBron since he came into the league

IGGY is Absolutely Correct

This is a very precise breakdown of the argument💯

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Salute 🫡

Man this is well articulated. No JJ nobody thinks of Irvin as the most skilled player. He is just the best dribbler.

@Bob-te3le

4 ай бұрын

And even that Curry is right there with him

@chasmcgregor001

3 ай бұрын

Hes the best skilled player far ahead of curry. Curry is a shooter with good handles. Kyries handles are perfection

Brother this is one of the best breakdowns rhat I have heard on rhis debate. I concur with everything you said. Bravo!

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Salute 🫡

I agree with Iggy's line of thinking but we should expand the concept beyond just physical skills. The game is also mental. Largely mental, in fact. People with the perfect skillset and non-exploitable flaws can still make bad decisions or not use their flawless game in the right way for any given situation. Look at Chauncey Billups comments on how the Pistons baited Kobe into playing hero ball in the 2004 NBA Finals. This isn't an argument for LeBron James because he has even more "mental" flaws than Kobe. I'm just pointing out that there is more to a person's game than their physical skillset. A warrior can go into battle with the perfect sword but if he has a weak game plan, he can be beaten.

@Mandownsports

8 ай бұрын

All true. But let's not 4get why Kobe tried to play hero ball in the Detroit series.....they were getting ran out of the gym for 4 reasons....#1 Shaq was out of shape, on a bad wheel and playing north of 350lbs. They already was behind the 8 ball with him on the floor defensively #2. Malone was 40 yrs old and came off a bad knee injury early to play and he hurt them as well. #3. Gary Payton couldn't stop a nose bleed, the glove had a hole in it. #4. Malone and Payton barely knew the triangle offense and wasn't even a fit for it even if they did know it. I get what Billups said but that wasn't some gameplan to exploit a mental weakness. That was just a great player forcing the game cuz he had know other choice

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

Kobe Basketball IQ is not in the same stratosphere as LeBorn I don’t care what no media are ex nba basketball LeBorn got all those flaws can’t shoot but all time leading scorer number 4 all time in assists 31 all time in rebounds the only in nba history 39,000 points over ten thousand assists and over ten thousand rebounds JJ Reddick is one thousand percent wright been watching the NBA a since 1955 LeBorn James and Oscar Robertson are the most complete basketball players of all time now if you talking about the ball hogs then when you only play for your numbers

@chrisb5000

4 ай бұрын

​@@Mandownsports Also behind the scenes Kobe had beef with Malone because Malone had made a pass at his wife. There were many issues with that whole team on and off the court.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

@@chrisb5000 that's true

@toddjones2245

4 ай бұрын

​@ivorywatts3881 all longevity stats.. Kobe holds more modern day in game and in season scoring records than lebron and every superstar teammate he ever played with combined. What in game or in season records PERIOD does lebron have?

Who else here yells KOBE when you shoot something in the trash? Think about how great you need to be when that is the person you think of when you do.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Even Drill rappers yell Kobe lol 😆

When you think about it Kobe really didn't have any flaws. He defended the best player, and most of the time they were at a different position like the 3. Most of the time they were superstars. They are gonna get buckets on anyone. Bonzi was just a big body skilled player. No one could really stop him around that basket. He was so crafty. Unlike most ball players Kobe defended the best player. Like you said Bonzi, Melo, Durant, gave him some problems on that block. I can name 3 players that use to give MJ work down there as well. Steve Smith, Glen Rice, and last but not least Shandon Anderson. They were all tough down there. By the way, I love what you are doing. You are very knowledgeable and professional💯

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Great points and thanks for the comment bro

JJ Redick already got cooked by Dominique Wilkins

@Mandownsports

7 ай бұрын

And Michael Cooper.

I saw a video a few years ago that pointed out even though LeBron is always at the top of the league in assists his teams rarely finish in the top ten in them. There's a name that describes his game perfectly that no one uses anymore. He's a ball hog in the truest sense.

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

Bro there you go with -0- basketball IQ all ball hog don’t pass the ball he keeps ball in his hands until he gets off his shoot how can LeBorn be a ball hog and as a small forward he is number 4 all time in assists ball hoggs don’t pass the ball bro you to stop elaborating about BB

@bongbox

4 ай бұрын

which video?

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

How you be a ball hog when you in the top of assists ball hog refers to not passing the ball you know when you are double and triple team and you still take the shot that’s what you call ball hogs that means you took a shot and 2 of your team mates are not guarded that’s what you -0- IQ basketball Aficionados give Michael Jordan and Kobe Byrant credit for then when LeBron make the wright IQ basketball play in that moment you all say he doesn’t have no heart you know that’s that AAU mentality taught in basketball not the way the game was supposed to be played its a team game that’s why you got five players on the floor to share the ball

@02REESE

4 ай бұрын

@@bongbox been some years. I'll see if I can find it. People weren't making many videos about the holes in his game back then but they're everywhere now and that one's lost in the mix.

@talianun3259

4 ай бұрын

​@@bongboxlook up LeBron is booty

Agreed with Iggy

@angel-ij4xv

4 ай бұрын

jordan kobe ahead over lebron any day

You man down sports you are 1 of my favorite channels keep speaking that truth bro

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Salute bro!

MT Rushmore: MJ Kareem Wilt Next : Kobe Bird Magic After that level: BRussell LeBron TDuncan After that: Hakeem Shaq Curry KD

As a Lebron fan I can admit that Kobe is better. 👍👍

💯 % dedicated to the game of baseball and 100% carry Lakers to win 🏆 nba final. Didn't look for opportunities to win championship joining other team or super team. A true champion.

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

Really? He quit on the lakers like a child, snitched on shaq, got caught cheating. He could ball but he's was never better than Lebron.

It’s a whole lot people who feel the same way about LB it’s called a opinion

I will never understand why we just can’t recognize the talent of each of these amazing players without putting the other down. You don’t have to like any of them to recognize each of them represents greatness. The disrespect is ridiculous.

@Mandownsports

2 ай бұрын

Disrespect?

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

You can't tell these haters nothing. They love to omit the fav flaws while nick picking James's every move.

You should go to the podcast where Kenyon Martin, Rashad, and Gilbert where talking after Steven A. had Shaq on his show and Rashad had on a shirt with Steven A on it and a crown. Rashad ask Gilbert Arenas towards the end of the show, whose the best player you EVER SEEN play the game of basketball and he says KOBE!!!!

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

I reacted to that already

@helenward7990

2 ай бұрын

MJ an Kobe went for rings an championships, Lefake goes for stats!!! Never won a game when getting milestones. Its all about the stats!!!

@Bob-te3le

2 ай бұрын

McCants cooked in that. Take Jordan and Kobe out the debate and start the debate at #3 because Jordan and Kobe are way better.

It’s like hating on LeBron is a cottage industry

@MrJohnny8982

3 ай бұрын

Not hating on lebron but the truth is the truth I would compare Kobe to Jordan way before LB. Kobe is Jordan 2.0 lebron has no killer in him he never wants the last shot he played defense maybe only half his career no his never Jordan let alone Kobe I’ll take magic over lebron

@7300Marlo

3 ай бұрын

@@MrJohnny8982 you are just not using logic

@7300Marlo

3 ай бұрын

@@MrJohnny8982 he has no killer instinct but he leads his team

Great show…on point🤞🏾

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

Awesome Channel! I hope you are blessed with success !

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Thanks brother! Blessings to you as well

The only thing I disagree with is that I believe Kobe had 1 weakness. His shot selection which affected his efficiency & shooting percentage.

@Bob-te3le

4 ай бұрын

Or could some if those bad shots be because of his teammates giving him the ball with a couple seconds to make a shot. Alot goes into these shots.

This is probably why Bron should have gone to college. Also instead of crowing himself something he isn’t. He should have opened himself to learning from Kobe. We seen how exposed he was with Dallas and even the all star game

@staceyshakur7328

3 ай бұрын

He didn’t crown himself that lol

@romethechampion6224

3 ай бұрын

@@staceyshakur7328 He was the one who started calling himself “ King James”

Excellent commentary sir

@Mandownsports

3 ай бұрын

Thanks

Awesome video n well put Man Down

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Salute 🫡

Kobe inspired people who didn’t have it to believe they could work hard enough and achieve it. His work ethic was unmatched.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Agreed

I'm not a ring guy...says the person with no rings.

@Mandownsports

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Great insights great takes glad I found the show

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Let’s don’t forget about Kareem he’s better than LeBron for a Center to hold the all time Scoring Title for that many years is something to be talked about 💯

Big dawg I’ve been tuning in for a minute and I respect ur outlook but I’ve heard u mention Ray Allen on the Heat vs okc twice that’s not true he wasn’t on that team… Besides that everything is spot on keep up the great work

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

I meant Spurs

I enjoy your content. No player has “no flaws”. What they said about Jordan was that he had no weaknesses. Jordan honed his game and was able to be so impactful that he could get away with things on the court that might get other players benched. These are the things that separate superstars from supporting cast. Kobe has noticeable flaws. I don’t want to seem as though I’m tearing down Kobe cuz these media jackasses do it enough. I got news for you JJ Reddick, a player separating himself from others aesthetically is called the eye test. It’s the simplest way to show discrepancy between professionals and amateurs alike. It’s also the most difficult way. The eye test is where god given ability reveals the human detail that separate us all. Jordan separated himself from his peers at every level. JJ Reddick blended in with crowd when he got to the league after being a celebrated star at Duke. He knows better but he’s being paid to promote the modern game and its players and it’s not only obvious, it makes you question his credibility. Just like all the other former players who still continue to eat off the NBA. Keep up the good work. Keep educating these young people cuz ESPN is 💩 . FOX Sports is 💩. The fans deserve better. You help provide that.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Man, this comment is EVERYTHING! Good stuff bro. Hope to have you call in and give your insight on one of our live call in shows

@erickdaniel4665

4 ай бұрын

When he say flaws he's talking from a defenders perspective. So let me ask you, if you had to guard kobe, what flaws would you tell your team to exploit?

@verbalkint3447

4 ай бұрын

@@erickdaniel4665 I would hope to just bait him into shooting the Lakers out of the game. He had a penchant for shooting very difficult shots over double even triple teams. Forcing him to drive, maybe bring a help defender over late. Kobe was great. He wasn’t Michael Jordan though. He had weaknesses in his game. His just happen to be from a mental standpoint

@koolshop1653

4 ай бұрын

Flaws weaknesses samething Mike had none lebum got MANY....PERIOD everything this man said was a FACT n well put he touched on stuff yall lebroom lovers dnt like to...all facts lebum shouldn't even b in the conversation

@verbalkint3447

4 ай бұрын

@@koolshop1653 Wow! Do you even read. I can’t stand Lebron James. My pushback is on him trying to group Kobe with Jordan. Jordan had no weaknesses. Kobe did. It’s that simple. Let’s keep it accurate and not involve your feelings. I say feelings because you went on a tirade that has nothing to do with what we were even talking about

Participation trophies+No defense=

He just still mad about that chase down block on him at game7 😂😂😂😂

Lebron, has so many flaws he barely top 10 of all times. lebron, can dunk and do a million layups. Look what happens when his weak 3 point game not working, he gets swept.

@jayd7531

4 ай бұрын

Facts plus he has no finesse to his game for instant if he's going in for a layup and someone contest it he really don't know where that sweet spots is on the backboard he will just toss it up there dude has no footwork and is easy to defend just overplay him o his right side force him left dude game is bland

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

There you go go make excuses That’s why he is the GOAT you say everything he can’t do but he still the Uno number one scorer of all make do different how he score two points is 2point you guys are clowns he got 39,000 points 10,940 rebounds, this game10,699 assists,2,239 steals,1,096 blocks while Shooting 50 percent from the floor you can match Michael Jordan , Kobe Byrant and else you want they can’t match them numbers and LeBron got them flaws at least that’s bull shit you clowns spouting

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

@@jayd7531 is that why he got 39,000 points man he so easy to defend -0- basketball IQ

@ivorywatts3881

4 ай бұрын

@@jayd7531 is finesse necessary he only have 39,000 thousand points it’s like having 100 hundred bill and a hundred dollars in 1,s it still hundred dollars hear you go -0- IQ for basketball

@Ltsuek

4 ай бұрын

@@ivorywatts3881longevity bruh

Kobe over Lebron! Kobe and Mike never had to call two other franchise player to create a super team to win it. And damn sure if u give MJ or Kobe D wade or C Bosh in their PRIMES they are not loosing to the 40yr old Mavericks 😂😂

Good topic Big Dawg! I have this discussion on a weekly basis because most of my homeboys are early 30's and they just can't comprehend someone being as great as WE make him out to be, although by visual evidence, then they attempt to detract his competition...but I feel ya, it's a message we have to continue to pass along

@Mandownsports

2 ай бұрын

Very true!

I totally Agree with that Statement Black Mamba for Life

LeBron's skillset, technically, is very subpar in my book. Like you said...what has he mastered?! Lol.

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

Subpar huh. And so is your analysis or should i say bias. Wow

LeBron to many flaws in his game

@Mandownsports

7 ай бұрын

That's a fact

LBJ SUPER team couldn't get past bronze in the olympics, until Kobe came in with them

Great content, Iguodala solidify Mike and Kobe position on Mount Rushmore with one phrase …. No weaknesses in their game….

@Mandownsports

3 ай бұрын

Thanks bro

My Mount Rushmore....Wilt, Magic, Bird, Jordan.

@LARULES100

4 ай бұрын

Forgot kobe.

@crharper25

4 ай бұрын

@@LARULES100 Nah I didn't...he didn't have a greater impact on the game than the 4 listed. Truthfully Kobe may be on the 2nd or 3rd team Mount Rushmore.

@charlestuff3869

4 ай бұрын

Well wilt was the tallest player and strongest player during his era with only a few teams and very few black players so he really never had a challenge except for Kareem or Oscar but in the paint who was challenging him. If you are 7 ft talk and strong and your team keeps passing you the ball because they knew you were the same height as the rim you better score that many points

@diegochavez6203

4 ай бұрын

How TF is magic over Kobe he had Kareem every year 😂

@diegochavez6203

4 ай бұрын

​@@crharper25lol impact? Rushmore is whose the best at actual basketball and Kobe is a superior player than Kareem and magic bird and Jordan the only ones at his level skill wise but bird not a good defender so I. Reality it's Kobe and Jordan as the most complete player stop with impact b.s magic was always on stacked teams every single year and his jump shot is mediocre.

What nobody ever mentions when they talk about Kobe vs LeBron is that apart from Shaq, in his championship years Kobe NEVER had another teammate that averaged 20 points or more in the playoffs, and that includes Gasol. LeBron ALWAYS had one teamate that averaged 20 pts+ (Wade, Kyrie, Davis) and apart from '20 championship with the Lakers, he had one more teammate that averaged over 15 pts (Bosh, Love). In 2020 playoffs with the Lakers, Davis picked up the slack, averaging 27.7 pts per game in the playoffs, which was actually 0.1 ppg more than LeBron. In Kobe's championship years, Lakers 3rd highest scorers in the playoffs were: Derek Fisher, 13.4 ppg in 2001, Glen Rice 12.4 ppg 2000., Lamar Odom 12.3 ppg 2009., Ron Artest 11.2 ppg 2010., Derek Fisher 10.2 ppg 2002. 🙂

@RyanMrTsunamiBishop

4 ай бұрын

The crazy thing is, when they had Shaq in LA, if you subtract Kobe there were going to be zero chips just with Shaq alone.

@Bob-te3le

4 ай бұрын

Kobe got rid of Shaq to show point , LeGM always tales the easy way out to lose more.

CANT CALL SOMEONE A GOAT WITH ALL THE FLAWS YOU JUST MENTIONED ...ABOUT LEBRON.....EXACLY ......I NEVER WORRIED KOBE MISSING FREETHROWS IN CLUTCH ....KOBE NEVER RAN FROM THE FREETHROW LINE IN THE CLUTCH

GOOD JOB BROTHER KEEP EXPOSING THE TRUTH ...LOVE THIS CHANNEL

Kobe did get way better in the low post defense , actually it became a strength

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

I agree

LeBron overrated as hell

@benjaminsmith2287

4 ай бұрын

No. He's not. There's an almost obsessive need to underrate him here. But he's a brilliant basketball player and it's been a treat to watch him play for all these years. Is he perfect? No. But neither was Kobe. He was far from it. Neither was MJ. Not even Tim Duncan was perfect. but he was close to it.

@thetruth3732

4 ай бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 where he ranked in yo book?

@benjaminsmith2287

4 ай бұрын

@@thetruth3732 LeBron is top 5 of any player I've seen and I saw Dr. J when he was a rookie.

@thetruth3732

3 ай бұрын

@@benjaminsmith2287 boy u ain't seen much then top 5 high school maybe NBA hell no

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

So is your comment!

Man nice analysis keep up

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Yep

Kobe the top 2 ever

JJ Redick is one of the dumbest Duke dudes I've ever listened to.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Lol 😆 he's a smart guy but he trying to be too smart with these advanced analytics. It's making him seem like he doesn't know how simplistic basketball is

What you are not mentioning, is Lebron came straight out of HS and was drafted to the worst team in the league. And turned them around within 2yrs. made it to the Championship round in his 4th year. That's Greatness. Kobe went to a team that was already a playoff team. Kobe would not have been able to go to the worst team and turn them around. His game wasn't like that. I doubt if Kobe had went to the worst team he would have been just a good player. He had the benefit of playing with Shaq. MJ nor Kobe couldn't do what Lebron did. You say Kobe won more. Lebron went to 9 straight Championship rounds. Kobe could have never done that

@jaynice7214

4 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@mj6175

4 ай бұрын

@andrewmatzo8167 what you are not mentioning is labron left Cleveland to go to Miami to form his own team cuz he stopped believing in Cleveland, got his rings in Miami then went back cuz he wanted to be with kyrie. Kobe won with and without Shaq. Kobe had Luke Walton, Derrick fisher, Robert horrie etc. Aint no way labron winning anything with them. Labron gotta bounce from team to team to have a chance but Jordan and Kobe worked with whoever they had and stayed on the same team win or lose. Jordan and Kobe gonna cuss yo ass out and try to make you a better player while labron gonna talk to people behind your back to get your ass traded for somebody he wants.

@kodythegoat8754

4 ай бұрын

What you are not mentioning is the teams he beat to get to the Finals in a WEAK EAST!

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

Right. These clowns really got it twisted. Lebron is not a killer, he's not clutch, he plays in the weaker conference, he builds super teams to win. Kobe had Shaq and robert horry. Lebron had Gibson, Ilgauskas, verajau, carlos loser i can't with these mofos.

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

@@mj6175 Lebron won his way. While also being the best player on his teams.

In the real world that resume would not get you the job. Hiring Manager: You had 11 clients and were only able to close the deal with 4 of them? This other guy closed all his deals and the next one closed 5 out of 7. The other two guys had also less resources and help their companies build from the ground up. His resume indicates he has been with several companies in a short period of time. I am concerned that I will be hiring a job hopper. He could demage our company and reputation. Assistant Hiring Manager: But sir please reconsider the statistics say he has great potential. 😂 Hiring Manager: He is not built for this company. I want to talk to the other two guys.

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mj is kobe in a 26 team less talented league

Lebron is one of the best players ever but top 5 with 6 loses in finals for me is impossible to give him that spot

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

@o-g-ob4399

4 ай бұрын

You sound silly, because it's a team game! MJ played with 2 HOF players, so he didn't do anything all by himself.

@user-ww5zt9zt4s

4 ай бұрын

@@o-g-ob4399 are you kidding me Lebroom is the player with more help in the history of the game he play in superteam since 2010

Kobe was a one on one player and took more shots than anyone in NBA history when he retired. When he had no one around him as a team the lakers struggled. Lebron on the other hand is a facilitator who makes everyone better around him, took a no name team to the NBA finals in 2006 I believe and is more athletic than Kobe. If Lebron focused on shooting first he could have easily averaged 30 ppg for his entire career and I have been watching the NBA since 1970 when Kareem was in his second year destroying Wilt Chamberlain at the time so I know a team player from a one on one star and you young guys are too hooked up on who can score the most vs who makes the team better. Michael Jordan would have NEVER won 6 championships in the competitive 80s because 2 of the best facilitators in NBA history were playing in that decade, Magic and Bird in their prime. My point is facilitators are more important than ball hog shooters. Kobe is the second best shooting guard behind Michael but he was NOT better than Lebron as an all around player. He was a better one on one player and that’s it!

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

This "took a no name team to the finals" narrative has got to stop. Iverson, Allan Houston, J Kidd, Reggie Miller and Kawhi was in the east for 1 year and showed how easy it was to get to the finals except he actually won. It's not impressive that Lebron got to the finals one time out of the east and didn't win not one game in the finals. Second, thus "make everyone better" narrative is false as well.

@benjaminsmith2287

4 ай бұрын

Agree. I'm tired of the LeBron vs. Kobe arguments. Different player, different mindset, different person. LeBron's strength is as a team player, not a scoring one on one player. He can score, but that's not what makes him exceptional. And he is exceptional. Kobe was great, not exceptional IMO.

They want LBJ to be bad as hell, but he's not. Loses focus anytime he's touched. And flopping oh my God

Masterfully Done 💯👏🏽

When Kobe won those last two championship he was arguably the best to had ever played the game if basketball. He was perfect!!!!!

Kobe

Great Breakdown Bro

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

Salute 🫡

I would never pick lebum over Kobe or mj or bird or magic or doc or Kareem, period

THE BLACK MAMBA 🐍

One of the realest and valid perspectives out… dismantles a lot of the non basketball minds

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

🫡 salute

A.I. been mad at LeBron since that chase-down block led to him not getting that ring!

Kobe is my Goat!!! Always will be…. One player I also love is Elgin Baylor!! Turn me on to loving basketball…. But Kobe is my Kobe bean Black Mamaba Bryant!!fan for fifty years,Lakers fan!

Excellent breakdown!

Also side note, I can tell you played and played organize ball at a relatively high level based on how you broke down this comparison for uneducated who just see stats and not play style and without context. Liked and subscribed for sure. You get what you’re talking about

@Mandownsports

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub brother!

@buckisz

26 күн бұрын

I played and coached. His analysis got more flaws than James ever had/has. Gooh with mess.

Great commentary and breakdown. Id like to add one thing and i hope this reaches you. Horry said Kobe wasnt a great post defender but lets remember Horry played with Bean he never played with Mamba... he only saw Kobe first hand early in his career and like you pointed out Kobe and Jordan tuned their weaknesses into strengths. Im sure you remember the 2009 WCF finals when Kobe guarded Melo down the stretch. Melo was a better and bigger offensive version of Bonzi Wells plus....and Kobe was playing elite defense and banging with melo game on the line.... its safe to say the Mamba addressed that...

@Mandownsports

4 ай бұрын

That's a good point. He may be specifically speaking about that Portland series vs Bonzie Wells but by the time Kobe had to guard a better player in the post years later in Carmelo Anthony his post defense was much better

It's about time a nba player has come out and called jj out on his bullshit