Haha “im going to keep them segregated” by the end of the episode “I’m going to keep it connected, that’s the key” lol love the content!!

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

I watch just to see if I was wrong and should just put everyone on a big ole roundabout

@tedgrant1865

2 жыл бұрын

America circa. foundation to present

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I can't do it. I just can't do it.

@ktaragorn

2 жыл бұрын

"By the end of the episode"? Think you mean 5 min in :D

Its great how fast you went from "let's keep this segregated" to let's connect everything. Apparently can't undo the inner city planner.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

a single bridge can be as long and twisty as you need and it only uses one of your bridge uses, so, you could use one and just snake along the river like some kind of abomination on city planning.

@MMuraseofSandvich

2 жыл бұрын

The catch is, it will also use road tiles.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I assumed they had to be straight! That's why you don't assume... might need to do another one of these!

@user-mk3rw8lf8m

2 жыл бұрын

I like that joke, well done

Cpp: “we’re gonna segregate all of our uses and our people” 2 minutes later: EVERYONE GO TO THIS ROUNDABOUT

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I just need to teach everyone about the wonders of roundabouts. I figure forcing them all into the same one is a good way to do so

@thumper8684

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays Roundabouts do wonders until one of the exit lines gets clogged up. Then they make congestion in every direction. I don't know but I think drivers plan routes there and back ahead of time. So if you get a problem like this it can take time to resolve.

@oguzkzn7137

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHS SAMEEEE

@mockingjay478

2 жыл бұрын

@@thumper8684 Yes! Drivers do plan their trip before leaving the house, so it is fixed in place. I've managed to get a few to take a minor diversion (when moving a road over one tile) but even then, they make a U-turn and take the closest possible road. A lot of the time in these older videos by CPP I'm seeing cars travel across the whole map to get to their destination and it's also where the chaos forms.

Pain begins at 4:25 Pain intensifies at 4:31 Pain becomes unbearable at 4:36 ... But don't worry, pain is diagnosed at 7:38 and treated at 7:45 Thank you for that rollercoaster of emotion

@Javan6475

2 жыл бұрын

Super fun to watch you play though! I would love to see some other ideas you have :)

@jonny2085

2 жыл бұрын

Pain starts at 2:45 when he threw out segregation with 45 road tiles left

@sappho_irl

2 жыл бұрын

oh thank god for you, I was d y i n g

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I let it go that long, haha!

@Javan6475

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays I honestly think it’s a mistake we all make in Mini Motorways 😅

The difference between a British road engineer and an American city planner is crazy

At the start you didn’t need two bridges to cross the river, you could have built only one in diagonal. You’re good at the game tho, you survived 5 days more than me in bejing

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah eventually you just give in and build a bridge down the whole length of the Los Angeles River.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, you can place diagonal bridges?? I can't believe I never thought to try that!!

@RammerDarkSun

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays you can make weirdest bendy bridges, i made a bridge that went around an island so i could save some traffic and road tile. the bridges in this game make "the galloping gerti" look like a marvel of engineering.

@paper2222

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays o_O

@elieeshoa9848

2 жыл бұрын

@@RammerDarkSun bridges actually use road tiles, same as tunnels xD

This game is equal parts fun and frustration and mad panic, love it :-)

@SargonDestroyerofWorlds

2 жыл бұрын

Somehow we need to send a head to head between you guys. 🙏👍

@mercurialdanny

2 жыл бұрын

The anxiety while trying to keep up with the madness is the best part!

@DaciGotYou

2 жыл бұрын

@@SargonDestroyerofWorlds we need this so much

@GeekTrainer

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaciGotYou And bring in Potato

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Same! So fun to think you have things under control only have have it all go crazy! 😂

I love how he is laughing about himself. It makes me happy

@erltonjames

2 жыл бұрын

He sounds like a chill young dude when talking but transforms to a creepy old guy when he laughs.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@erltonjames

@MJ-tc4es

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays did you get this game on steam?

@cocccix

2 жыл бұрын

So wholesome

The moment he realizes he can pause the game, erase everything, and start over will be a huge victory!

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Going to have to do this in the next one!

@stevieinselby

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you have to be willing to remove roads and completely change the layout as the game develops.

@flyingonionring

Жыл бұрын

But they don’t get removed until every trip is done, so traffic is gonna get real bad

CPP in Cities Skylines: "Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good" CPP in Mini Motorways: "Let's not let good be the enemy of a high score"

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

The bunch of yellow houses that weren't getting connected annoyed me haha. Love your videos, such a chill vibe

"Motorway! That's going to fix things for us." - every city planner in the US

Great watching you try and solve these issues. 3 tips that have helped me tremendously. 1) Cars always take the shortest route, regardless of how many alternate routes you setup. 2) Before connecting new houses check to see if houses of the same colour have cars in the driveway. 3) Instead of connecting new houses make pre-emptive neighbourhoods ready to be connected when needed.

Just a tip: you don’t need to connect every single house a few is enough for a single business. And cars go trough the whole map even if there is a free car closer, that’s why u should not connect everything it will just make the traffic worse.

@stevieinselby

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Don't even connect all of the same colour ... when he zapped the motorway across to the yellows, it would have been better to _only_ connect it to the set of houses on the right that weren't connected to anything else. Have one set of houses going to one shop and another set of houses going to another shop.

I find 2-3 houses enough for a square building and 4-6 for a round building are enough to service them if they aren't too far away. If I have enough of one color to break a group off from main roads and still leave enough houses for other buildings I will, as the call out for a car won't always come from the closest building creating hectic traffic from the other side of the city.

@williamhuang8309

2 жыл бұрын

2-3 Houses for a supermarket and 4-6 for an IMAX Cinema. Good strategy you have there.

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's be cool if you could make your own shades to keep track of your own smaller groupings.

@sistercharlatan

2 жыл бұрын

@@deViant14 that would be handy, or even the same colors but different patterns, like red spot, stripe, checkers etc, but I do like how minimal the game is too, so I'm happy without that. I just pause and count houses lot

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I need to fight the urge to connect everything!

@sistercharlatan

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays sometimes you have too, lack of roads etc, but reassessing things regularly and moving roads around where you can helps.

“Now everyone’s mad and I get it.”

wish that they would make a sandbox mode, cuz it'd be so satisfying to just build cities in this style without being forced to drop legit every single piece of logic in normal city planning xd

The unconnected houses: very subtle visual cues! No wonder you’re having trouble seeing them. But you SMASHED your high score!

@stefankoopmans2200

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thng is, to get high scores you should not connect every house

this isn’t a tip as much as it is an idea id like to be tested, if you find yourself with a lot of bridges especially in tokyo with the small island you could use a motorway to get just across the water instead of a bridge because cars can drive faster on motorways

@juliweather1103

2 жыл бұрын

I do think in my game plays. I think, when possible, it is quicker.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea! I'll try it in the next one!

I started playing this game after I saw your 1st video. I wasn't doing great because I was approaching it more like a city builder until I watched another video, so now I just see it as a puzzle game where you have to keep lines from crossing. It is still very fun, but I understand fighting your desire to make things look more like a functional city.

Segregation quickly evolved into "your road is my road "

Thanks for the video . . . my OCD is still saying no to all these connections and weird forks created to connect houses and factories / offices. But it works, going to try it as well tonight. Love the game! It is so relaxing and it is something you can do for an hour or even less and then put your laptop aside again.

Your laugh is literally my favorite thing about your play throughs. Such genuine joy and happiness 🥰

I've got a few tips for you: 1 - When a building wants a car, it will pull from the closest available house. Generally, that's what you want. But it can break down if you have a building (especially a round building) exceeding its local demand and pulling from the far side of the city. That creates more traffic at intersections and is far less efficient than having a small, isolated, local community to serve it. It's better to have one or two houses with a short trip than a lot of houses but some of them are farther away. One single house that has a four tile trip can keep a building satisfied for a long time, but if that house instead gets pulled across town to a different business, then its cars will be tied up in traffic and the local business will ALSO have to pull cars from across town. 2 - As soon as you see traffic starting to build up at a round-a-bout, you have to fix it. Create a by-pass road for one of the colors (maybe someone just needs to turn 90 degrees and could avoid the round-a-bout altogether?) or use a motorway to lessen the traffic through that motorway. 3 - Cars will ALWYAS take the shortest distance trip. Generally, that's what you want. But if you built a motorway to take pressure off an intersection but now ALL the colors want to use your new motorway, you've created a new problem. Watch out for that, and use it to your advantage. Four way intersections are deadly if it's the shortest way for a lot of traffic, but if there's just a few cars crossing it's not a problem. If 90% of a building's demand is met by local houses with no crossings and the last 10% is met by a house that has to cross two four-way intersections, it's not the end of the world. The bulk off the traffic is efficient, and the overflow is good enough to fill the gaps. 4 - Houses will have cars sitting in the driveway when they have a car available to send. You can visually see whether or not you have enough houses linked up to meet demand (because cars will be sitting around) or whether you need to improve something.

Just discovered your channel not long ago. Very zen, extremely enjoyable! And your video editing is really good. Thanks for the entertainment!

It would be fun if you could add more lanes to roads. That would be a nice alternative for segregation.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@pedrolmlkzk

2 жыл бұрын

It still doesn't As long as you don't need to mix colours segregarion will be optimal

I think the solution with the blue in the upper north west corner was to use a road way and then take it all the way to the blues in the south east corner and there would have been more connectivity with the blues in the north east. Then connecting the blue by the road way 3 to the blues up to the north east.

I would definitely prebuilt the main roads through yellow and gray before they start blocking you off. It's about preventing a row of 3 houses walling you off.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I need to do next.... try to preplan roads!

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

@@CityPlannerPlays yeah it helps. Also sometimes you have to demolish lots of things and turn it inside out is how I think of it. Like if red is the core and yellow goes around make yellow the core and make red go around. It's like right in midgame you'd have to make the decision and run with it.

I normally watch your city skylines videos… but this game!! I have never seen it before and I was yelling at the screen!! I need it!! Thanks for sharing your frustration, and talking us through the whole thing!

Next step is meta strats 1: Buildings generate demand proportional to the amount of houses connected to them so you wanna segregate even the same colors and sometimes not even connect some houses. Not connecting houses doesn't harm you. 2: You can place roads preemptively so that buildings don't spawn where you don't want them. 3: When everything gets super complicated and demand is dangerously high, you can delete every road you've built and then rebuild them all.

Just a quick tip: 3:04 at this early stage in the game one house can sustain the place, the red house in top mid could have gone segregated to the right with teal going all around that house to their destination. This would have kept all your colors segregated.

Getting there... Tips: 1. Always take a motorway unless you *really* need something else. 2. Roundabouts are awesome if you an fit them - think about where they need to go early in the game and 'reserve' space using road tiles. 3. Use road tiles to block-off buildings from spawning in awkward spaces - you can always delete them later if you need them. 4. You can always use a motorway for a while and delete it later if you need it - same goes for roundabouts, traffic lights, etc. 5. There is a point to traffic lights! But only later in the game, when you start to get gridlock at junctions - if you can't fit a motorway, stick in some traffic lights! 6. Try and link motorways and large buildings to roundabouts wherever possible, and try to avoid houses connecting to main roads (especially close to large buildings). It's better to use more road tiles and keep little, isolated 'suburbs' of housing (same colour if possible). 7. Motorways can't go over mountains... but they can go really close to them, so look for the gaps. I think that's as much wisdom as I've gleaned so far!

Hi! I only came across your channel in the last Mini Motorways video, and I decided to check out some other videos of yours. You got a like from me in the first 20 seconds simply by addressing a concern as simple as changing your pointer (I saw it in the comments of the last video). Good to see that you respond readily to feedback! :D

"I hide under my desk as my citizens bang on my doors" Bruh the traffic is so jammed they can't get to you 😂

This is amazing, bought the game because of your playthrough its really fun doing random runs, the mini metro one is interesting too! Would watch more of this.

Almost playing more Mini Motorways then CS.... fun and addicting game! Great content again CPP!

This is my first time watching your channel, and I hit the subscribe button as soon as I heard your laugh! Now it's time to binge watch all of the cool city planning

**Adds second roundabout** That should alleviate that... **Watches as roundabout Hell engages in mere moments for some reason**

Haha the citizens are banging on the City Planner's door, and he's curled under the desk laughing hysterically at the situation 😂🤣😂

At the end when you got everything going crazy, you should delete everything and see how well you can plan from scratch with the building locations

@jeremyogarey1911

2 жыл бұрын

You can't re use any roads that still have cars traveling on them. So by end game this causes you to fail

The traffic lights do work but they require very specific circumstances to work their best. First, they need to be in a heavily trafficked 4+ way intersection (I’d say 4 but I’m sure someone has made a 5 way intersection). Ideally, the intersection would be two arterials or collectors. Second, the primary turning direction needs to be left, not right. If it’s right, the only time traffic gets stopped is the odd left turn which pulls traffic to a dead stop for no reason. Last, the space needs to be too tight for a roundabout. Roundabouts are still the best bet for any intersections but if the spacing is too tight, stop lights work great. I wish I’d take a picture of the city I used them on but it worked really well for a long time. Just wound up getting screwed by poor destination placements.

I'm not sure if you know this and just don't want to use it but you can make a road inbetween two houses that are on a diagonal. For example the grey house on the bottom right at 15:08 you can make the driveway go inbetween the two grey houses. In that case it's not necessary but in some cases it can save you a lot of road tiles (and neighborhoods are usually not the source of the congestions).

Another tip is to segregate by stores even if they’re the same color. Small stores will usually do well with 3-4 houses attached to them. This helps decrease congestion as the game progresses. Big stores will require many more houses, usually 9-12

17:48 you can hear his pain as a planner right there. Love this series. Such a "controlled" chaos! :D

Don't forget, you don't always need to connect every house. If a certain house causes traffic problems and the buisness it goes to isn't struggling, you can disconnect the house from the road

Man, I enjoyed watching this! Earned a new sub!

This dude talks like a 20 year old and laughs like a 70 year old.

@krootzy9169

2 жыл бұрын

LMAOO

@zaudica1987

2 жыл бұрын

indeed. is something very intriguing.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@hypnoticlizard9693

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao so true, that old man laugh

If I had a dollar for every time Phil said ‘humming along’ I would be rolling in the money

Just a tip: Both big and small buildings decrease the speed of traffic going through, so always avoid them near roads where you need passing through

loving this series!

Things get so crazy and that’s where the fun is! It’s great that you’re enjoying this!

Phill you're doing a great job as a YT creator I hope you know that. I am in LOVE with clearwater county and verde beach videos, I almost always watch them the day they release and I've also really enjoyed these shorter videos.

@CityPlannerPlays

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! I really, really appreciate that!

It's real interesting watching the game played from a different perspective, from a gamer to a city planner. Can't say I didn't laugh at your pain, hah!

Use diagonal bridges since it allows to reduce amount of bridges used

roundabouts work great with low-mid traffic flow areas, but when you start hitting high traffic areas with gridlock, thats where traffic signals shine.. early on they suck, and make things worse.. late game they give predictable surges and prevent the game crashing gridlock

Really enjoying this series 😊

I can just feel him going. “THIS IS NOT NATURAL!” “WHY?!?!?” And it’s great

Watching this makes me feel like Mini Motorways is a game they'd make city planners play in their personal purgatory.

Hey, CPP. Don't be afraid to tear all the roads up and re build as needed. It helps everynow and again

City Planner at the start: Imma keep things segregated City Planner after 2 minutes: jOIn AlL ThE THiNGs

To tilt the odds, blocking (2x3) mall areas and stub roads to keep future routes open helps (until you are forced to reclaim the road tiles). Distant houses are ignorable, you see them with 2 cars that never leave early game. A single diagonal bridge looked possible, which is another anti-engineering adaptation to save on bridges 😁

i got this game a few days ago. I like to use roundabouts anytime the colors have to intersect, I place roads anywhere I don’t want a store to spawn, and I use motorways to connect houses to far away stores. But you still can’t control the game completely so, sometimes everything gets ruined

Honestly, play the game however you want. It's not efficient, but the city that turns out is so pretty! It still *kinda* works in its own way too, it's not like you get these terrible jams for no reason. It's a game more about logic textured as traffic than an actual roadway networking game, but this is honestly quite interesting to watch!

Him not connecting the houses for days after they spawned while the factories go on timers is p a i n f u l

I’m thinking it might be interesting to see if you’d be able to improve your city if you were to completely ”start over” when things get hairy. Like deleting the roads and bridges and motorways and start again with a clean slate (and a bunch of houses and destinations of course). Would love to see you have a go!

@eglat835

2 жыл бұрын

yea but it takes like a hour to get all ur roads back

FYI you can delete portions that you've already built and get all the road pieces back. People with ridiculous scores often redo their entire cities once or twice!

Absolutely adore this channel, maybe a complete rearrange is in order next time?

About 2:41, you can run along the river and it only counts as one bridge, despite the length. ---- About 17:56, I find it's best to only mix two colors to help fight the need to separate versus the random nature of the game to spawn stuff wherever you don't want it to go.

Thank you for the mouse change. Improved the experience of your content instantly.

I love to hear you laughing. If it was me, I'd be shouting at the monitor :-)

Love this extra content!

Your laugh reminds me so much of Pete Holmes, I love it.

Hey CPP! You can also segregate the colors from themselves, if you have 2 houses to a square building it's usually enough and 3 is enough for a circle depending on distance

I love this series do more🙏

Tips: Traffic lights prevent people from slowing down at junctions (use at T-junctions). Roundabouts have a lower capacity than they should because cars don't yield (still, use at crossroads when you'd like to prevent left turning). Each house has 2 cars and can take care of two demands at a time (for farther buildings you'll need one house for every single pin because the travel time is longer than the pin spawning timer). Build diagonals anywhere you can to save road tiles. Motorways are king (use them to provide targeted long distance connectivity, not as bypasses). Avoid loading arterials at all cost. You don't have to segregate neighbourhoods, but never connect them if you don't need to. And finally: the AI doesn't know how to use connectivity redundancy to plan routes (it just plans the quickest trip without taking traffic into account), so don't waste your road tiles.

I think your only downfall is trying to connect roads to each other instead of using a different route entirely. Use those road tiles. It also will help to keep things separated based off of how far away they are from each other. Even if something is across the map, if there is no one else available a car will make that extra long trip instead of waiting to go to a closer one.

I would love to see you use every bit of road to block areas you don't want spawns in to make the city as logical as possible... Like putting in road segments that only allow house spawns. Just to see how it goes. ❤

so chaotic ... i love it haha

Dropped the like just for the black pointer! Thank you!!!

Plz do more of these I love these vids

If you keep playing this game here are a couple tips. 1.) You don't need to connect those individual houses that pop up on the outstretches. They cost more road tiles than they are worth. 2.) Please, for the love of all that is chaos, use the motorways to connect those far spots instead of trying to congregate them all to a roundabout. 3.) Bridges can go longer, just keep them in the water and you can span a huge distance. 4.) Pretend the little AI drivers are stupid and will take the longest way possible. If you connect them all they will go to the smaller factory if they think it needs someone instead of the one that's pinging you. So, you can connect just 2-3 house to a smaller one instead of all on everything.

I have a problem watching your videos, I just found you yesterday and watched your first video from city sky lines, and right now I am watching the second episode and reading comments (at 8:40) when I seen this video on the right.... how will I ever finish one of your videos when I see another one I want to see also... in other words and shorter, I cant get enough of your videos :)

him not connecting the three yellow at the top right for so long is killing me

Segregation is the key, at max 6 houses for each business, directly connected to that one singular business, and nothing else Completely avoid 4-way intersections, and if impossible, make just one many way intersection. Traffic lights do not help with anything, and roundabouts are just a little bit better 4-way intersections. Diagonals are key, and bridges only use one bridge no matter how long they are, as long as it is only over water

Bridges also can span longer than one Tile and do not require being straight. you can Fill an entire Coastline with a wiggle if desired.

Sometimes the cars chooses the longer paths so try to disconnect them from it. And try to tell the houses to focus on a specific market because some of them go all the way to other markets where there are same colored houses near it. But they are just uh u know.

absolutely love this

A motorway from bottom centre to top right, to transport blues south and greys north, might have worked well. Only connect houses when you need them.

You are definitely a planner kind of guy. When this game rushes you..chaos!

I think the biggest issues with this one were the yellow building feeding into the left roundabout and the blue building in the bottom right that required all the blue cars coming from further bottom-right to take left turns and cut off traffic to the green and red buildings behind it.

This is so wholesome

Great episode!

>Game simulates car based transit >Segregation instantly becomes the meta

I see a common trend that you tend to not see new houses pop up even with the flash for long periods of time. Maybe change the flash color to like a constant ping to let the player know that the houses arent linked in. Not just flash the house white.

Love this, have you thought about collabing with Real Civil Engineer?

I really like your laugh. It's like ASMR.

You were definitely looking for "shortest route" rather than "fastest route" a lot of the time; a segregated system that requires a circuitous connection for some colors is still superior to a roundabout and connected systems at higher traffic volumes. (These motorists don't factor in congestion when picking a route.) You could have also cut some parts of the system into isolated houses-plus-one-business clusters and the like rather than, e.g., that single massive warren of grey. You got some bad spawns in terms of distances, but that's what motorways are for. Heck, stuff connected via motorway doesn't have to connect to the rest of the grid at all, especially if it would otherwise try taking a shorter-but-more-congested path.

"Too few cars could get to this destination in time. Your city shut down." Sounds like top level lobbying there. In mini metro, the explanation as to why your metro shut down is a bit more reasonable, but this is just absurd.

The problem from a city planning perspective is that there is no city planning involved, and no transport besides cars. The game is about building a city for cars, which, no matter how you try to do it, is bad city planning. Perhaps this is the underlying message of the game? Because it is an old style "play until thing break down", not a city planning game like City Skylines or Sim City, where your goal (most of the times) is to make an efficient and pleasant city to live and work in.