Guy writing in chat "ITS NO HOPE, JUST PLUG" during rdc section had me cackling.

"look at his hands, which one goes further..." Man, i can't even see his hands

@wittyag

4 ай бұрын

Yep. I hate this is how the system works. So much shit is going on, by the time I've noticed I'm being grabbed, the hands are already on me and it's a blind guess.

@Evilj82

4 ай бұрын

@@wittyagThe alternative is a blind lucky guess as opposed to reaction.

@carloshernandez3177

4 ай бұрын

​@wittyag as annoying as it sounds, it can be done and high level players can easily see the hands, in tekken 7 I had S+ throwbreaking and my reaction times in general aren't the best but I could see the hand reaching to grab me

@wittyag

4 ай бұрын

@carloshernandez3177 I'll just have to take your word. I've tried labbing the different throws to practice breaking them, and I'm lucky to break 1 out of 10. In a real match, forget it. Even if I know which one is coming I still can't break them.

@carloshernandez3177

4 ай бұрын

@@wittyag one way is for example you fight vs a feng, he only has the uf 1+2 break the others are the generics and can be broken with either punch button so really, fengs will mainly use 1+2 so vs him specifically you can always hit 1+2 if he throws

Once you figure out the schtick of the King player, they either plug or they don't rematch

@Remorsefullyhumble

4 ай бұрын

I plug kings

@madln5070

4 ай бұрын

they also dont break throws, its a joke among the tk community but its true lol.

@BobtheX

4 ай бұрын

Not true. Never met a King player who's plugged or 1nDoned me. It's Victors that are all pieces of shit who do that nonsense.

@davidantunes9900

4 ай бұрын

​@@RemorsefullyhumbleL + skill issue.

@notting2640

4 ай бұрын

@@RemorsefullyhumbleI plug Xiaoyus, we are not the same.

"If you hate King watch this video" So basically the entire playerbase of Tekken besides King mains? TMM sure knows how to attract an audience. 😂

@AKTalal

4 ай бұрын

King is bad but not as bad as drag, reina and victor rn

@Tuxedosnake00

4 ай бұрын

I watch it to learn more about my weaknesses

@Topgamer357

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@AKTalalHe may not be higher tier than those characters, but he is probably the cheesiest. Especially with his otherworldly heat smash.

@The300Player

4 ай бұрын

​@@AKTalal after Drag he is the most annoying character in the game

@Tuxedosnake00

4 ай бұрын

@@Topgamer357 I would welcome king nerfs, I don't need super powered moves.. king is and was a set up character and I like to play those mind games with my opponent

28:55, 29:25 didn't expect Asuka and Alisa guide, thank you TMM

@nuggerto7696

4 ай бұрын

And an in depth one at that

As a new tekken player the thing that kills me the most about learning his throw breaks is that you can scroll through 10 different throws that have the same 4 seconds of unbreakable startup animation and then find out they a handful of them have this oddly specific break. Alot of the chain grabs just have super ambiguous animations that makes dealing with them when you’ve already been caught quite challenging to get out of.

@Yamisaru

4 ай бұрын

I was taught to break the first grab if not spam 1 cause it's a 5050 after that

@mkt-7

4 ай бұрын

I've been playing for a couple of years now and I still don't know how to break all his throws 😂

@Nobbi_Habogs

4 ай бұрын

@@Yamisaru this is a very simple and good approach for new player and will avoid like most of his dmg.

@jahmilly937

4 ай бұрын

​@@Yamisaruyou'll die to a green rank king that only learned how to do rdc and kings bridge this way

@walmartian422

4 ай бұрын

Bro honestly if I were you I would just go and learn how the chain throws are done. There are only a few optimal routes and some of it’s a guessing game but learning which ones your opponent is going for will really help you however a good king player will be totally ambiguous with his chain throw game so your main concern should just be not to even be in a position where this fucker can grab you. I’ve been learning and labbing king for a few weeks just to understand where these guys are coming from and I can already feel where they are at disadvantages coupled with the fact that King is actually a really slow moving character.

"Not even JDCR, Arslan, or Knee are gonna break all of those throws" Yea, ure right.. Just saw Arslan Xiaoyu playing against Atif's King, and Arslan can do nothing about the throws in so many times

@coutiya2007

4 ай бұрын

Who? Juhdicur?

@IbrahimSayed324

4 ай бұрын

Arslan and Knee are ducking alot against King now.

@butterflybubble-qw9pb

4 ай бұрын

even LowHigh tweet " I don’t know how to beat King " and many shit dude from tekken community advice him you can blah blah.

@maxofalltrades8989

4 ай бұрын

"can do nothing about the throws" He was playing Xiaoyu, in what world does she struggle against throws?

@walmartian422

4 ай бұрын

Because it’s basically a 10 frame mixup because of the different breaks for different throws and as much as people would want you to believe they can react to the giant swing they can’t unless they are already anticipating their opponents timing. I can easily see how anyone like Arslan or Knee who have wicked calculated playstyles can struggle against a move this ridiculous when it’s in the hands of another insanely skilled player. We are literally talking jab speed despite the fact that it takes a few frames to initiate there are so many ways a good king can obscure his throw behind so many layers of close range safe poking.

Throws should not track. Change my mind. If throws track and your Character has a true throw mixup, they are basically 10-12f homing high unblockables with a 50/50 chance of success/resetting neutral.

@reservationatdorsias3215

4 ай бұрын

yeah, that change was too much

@Dopameme

4 ай бұрын

No clue why they removed the sidestep counterplay from throws. Counterhit throws being borderline unreactable is enough.

@Kaithe7

4 ай бұрын

"Its a 50/50, everybody has those" - king players Everybody risks getting punished for them too. When you break a king throw, congratulations. You get to guess a second time when he just does it again

@TKNHOUSE

4 ай бұрын

King's only true mix up throws are 30f start up

@hermankermit-warm1121

4 ай бұрын

It's fine if they track, but if you break them you should get a relevant opportunity to punish with something around the same damage as a the throw you broke would do, so maybe a a ten frame punish for breaking a regular and a fifteen frame for breaking a command or certain command grabs? It's a bit insane the most reliable counter now is micro ducking unless you have superb reactions in live play.

Thank you, this was helpful. Never knew muscle buster and giant swing looked so similar, nor did I know about the specific window to break rolling death cradle. King is tricky, however this video simplifies him some!

In T8 to break chain throws you don't need to mash the button to fit into break window anymore, you can just hold the button. makes breaking RDC way easier.

@joolian4763

3 ай бұрын

What fr?

For anyone still confused about how to beat ali kicks: A VERY important thing: You can't low parry or even hold down to block the ali kicks, if you have to input an actual crouching guard, so hold down-back. Hold crouch block when you see the first kick then react to the mid punch as it is 28 frames and very telegraphed. It's possible for the King player to do a single kick into the mid which will require you to very quickly be ready to react, which I find is the most tricky thing for me to block, but most King players won't do this. It's the classic Tekken cheese where the attacker just mashes the 4 button and the defender needs a phd to beat it. Also, make sure you are not neutral guarding, as the single ali kick into mid will connect, and eating all 3 will leave you open to a launcher afterwards like fcdf2 if you are not holding back. Another thing to mention that Mainman didn't is that i've noticed that most yellow/orange king players just mash it out which means they almost consistently do all 3 kicks into the mid so if you are struggling to react that could be something to fall back on.

@Z4Zman

4 ай бұрын

You definitely CAN parry the ali kicks

@PositiveBlackSoul

4 ай бұрын

that there is a difference between Neutral Guard and actually Guarding is one of the least intuitive things in Tekken that also doesn't get mentioned by the tutorial (afaik) and most online guides don't mention it either.

"Sidestep him", Jack mains: "Looks like Im dead now" XD

Your my reason for learning kazuya im already grinding the ranks. Thank you SWE

@barutekku

4 ай бұрын

TMM* SWE means Sweden lol

Don't forget, King can mix you up with running GS and running SW. And if you're crounching, prepare for a mid launcher, crounch throws, and running 3 or running exploder

Need the anti hwoarang vid. Big appreciation for the tips!

I really needed this guide, so thank you!!!

Something I didn't see mentioned is that if you mash any button while landing from Giant Swing your character will do a quick roll and you won't take the second part of the throw's damage, which makes a considerable difference. It's not possible if King throws you to a wall though, which is why Giant Swing becomes stronger when the King's back is to the wall.

Real King mains using this video to devise new mixups. You thought you knew what I was doing

@digeridrew

4 ай бұрын

Amen, brother

@Squidward-jv7go

4 ай бұрын

Can Yall go play WWE 2k or something those games recently have been great wrestling games just go grab people there 😭

@Tuxedosnake00

4 ай бұрын

​@@Squidward-jv7goI play king because i like the characters design. If I want to spam cheap shit I would play another character. This character is in Tekken since Tekken 1. Learn the matchup and don't complain. I love every character in Tekken. It's my favourite series

@zombecreative

4 ай бұрын

@@Tuxedosnake00😂😂😂

@CaptainVulcan

4 ай бұрын

​@@Tuxedosnake00King is iconic, along with Paul, Law, and the Mishimas! Never was good with him but I always love to see him in action.

The Asuka section had me rolling on the floor. Man this guy is funny.

Crouch dash grab is a 3-way guess if you can Crouch Dash Muscle Buster.

@UltimateBallaPOM

4 ай бұрын

And Running into Giant Swing is underrated

@carloshernandez3177

4 ай бұрын

Also high level can crouch dash in a CH f3, with the just Frame 2 part

@UltimateBallaPOM

4 ай бұрын

@@carloshernandez3177 That's more intermediate than high. King doesn't have a move allocated to ff3, so dash cancelling out of a crouch dash will give you F3.

Omg how much I needed this Video

Honestly, the shining wizard 1+2 break and ss his wr3 were the only 2 changes I needed to start beating king at destroyer 🙏

9:30 remember if you get clipped by the first alley kick, hold DB, not just D or the rest will still hit.

I wouldn’t “time your breaks” for the crouch dash throw strings. It is a guessing game but you can identify the routes and try to adapt. I usually mash depending on what the first crouch dash throw was. Unfortunately that means if even the guy doesn’t go for a rolling death cradle or a kings bridge they can do other routes for less damage still. So… but hey you CAN mash the throw breaks idk

You can duck at any time during muscle armor, simply do df and you counter any throw or low attempt to beat your powercrush (db 1+2)

probably worth mentioning, if no one did before: If you get hit by the pedigree throw (the heat engager crouch throw), don't press anything for like a second on the ground. If you try to do a wakeup attack, king can just use heat smash and with that you lost like 75% of your lifebar in 2 moves

king mains in shambles right now

@sxsatv

4 ай бұрын

😂😂

@OTMFTG

4 ай бұрын

Good

@adamdickerson2762

4 ай бұрын

Yea I’m in shambles with multiple 10 to 20 game winning streaks 😂so sure

Thank you for the tips!

The hardest thing about Kazuya in this game aside from 3,1 CD df1,df2 is trying to EWGF punish Rage Arts and other moves that are -15 on block.

Youre such a film buff tmm i love it

When he does giant swing, he has a more pronounced roar. If you train yourself to listen for the roar rather than the hands, it can be a bit more consistent. Kind of like when you hear Steve's over here or Azucenas buzzin.

Very informative, also really funny! My win rate against King is probably 10-20% but I keep getting better. There's probably worse cheese out there but I will have to test that now.

you absolutely can mash to escape rdc, but if you want to make sure it never misses you can't leave more than a 3f gap between each press. Alternatively just hold down the button lol

I’ve always understood the leading arms dictate what to break, but with the costumes and proximity to the person covering the limbs, I find it hard to see it in that split second

@FlyXcur

4 ай бұрын

When a costume makes it more confusing look at the shoulders rather than which hand is further

The way you describe king it sounds like the true anti king guide is to go hold up picket signs in front of Bandai Namcos office buildings until they fix him lol

Good video, Mainman. It needed to be made.

Some other delinquency is that King will do U/F 3+4 into 1, and if it connects, he is guaranteed a U/F 2 flying elbow into you. The other U/F 3+4 mix is the RKO that almost every King goes for that is duckable.

@sebbyq4064

4 ай бұрын

He does get a free U/F 2 but that's not his highest dmg and leaves him in a really bad state after. Kings best option after the mid is dash d2+3, alley kick which is all guaranteed

@gilgameszh

4 ай бұрын

how do i counter the uf 3+4 followup?

I hate King, but its really just throws in general that I hate in Tekken 8. You can't step them anymore, that counterplay is gone. If you get hit by a counterhit throw, you can't break it on reaction, but it's trivial to land them because grabs land in 10-12f. So they are jab speed, but they deal 40-60 damage on counterhit + oki, and you can't step them in either direction.

@Warsheep2k6

4 ай бұрын

You have 10-14frames +20f break window on a normal hit thats for the most part reactable

@Dopameme

4 ай бұрын

@@Warsheep2k6 Counterhit throws have greatly reduced tech time, it goes down to like 10fr. When I say the throw comes in 10fr, I mean that its 10fr before it connects. My point is that its speed means it will beat a lot of attacks, then the counterhit throw will have reduced tech time.

@Warsheep2k6

4 ай бұрын

@@Dopameme have you tried throwing out a 10f throw like the giant swing or shining wizard under pressure? If someone manages to do that he deserves that throw, change my mind. Not to mention that you can easily reduce the damage of giant swing I am not saying its not cheap - it is, but it is on you to avoid those situations, same with hellsweeps dragunovs 2d pressure or alisa chainsauce its just the first time in history that king is super buffed and is s tier instead of a or b tier due to the extreme changes on throws

@Dopameme

4 ай бұрын

@ep2k6 You only gave one possible circumstance where they could apply (grabbing out of pressure) when there are tons. And are the other throws much slower at 12-14f? No, you're still dealing crazy damage from a super fast CH because its too hard to tech. Even Knee himself said that a lot of strong players are getting hit by throws now because of CHs. That's because this actually does happen in practice very often. "I am not saying its cheap - it is but it is on you to avoid it" This is obviously always true, you could add a move that oneshots the player, it'd still be on them to avoid it. The question is, is it reasonable? I think giving throws CH property AND full l/r tracking is unreasonable. The ambiguous King throws are extremely fast, high damage CH, tracking guessing games.

@Warsheep2k6

4 ай бұрын

According to you pwgf(11-12f) god palm(10f) and cross jab(​12f) should be removed because they do stupid damage if youbfail to avoid a ch @@Dopameme

Usually the only mixup I have to eat is the forced one after I block heatsmash. Don't think you can do anything about that one with throws though.

Now we need a anti-Dragunov, Azucena, Victor, and Xiaoyu guide from you.

Love how every creator is guiding us on how to deal with King’s bs 😂

I just reached red ranks as King doing nothing but shining wizard / hopkick mixups. And if someone could break shining wizard, I would mix it with running giant swing. The funny thing is, this was the most amount of people who declined to rematch that I've seen.

As a Shinryu King player I came to check what things I don't use. Btw now you may help King players to beat Asuka, Alisa etc. Victor is impossible to beat anyway rn but I'm always mashed to death by Asuka even tho I know what to expect.

Main man sounds like dr rockso from metalocalypse near the end of this video haha.

I don’t think I’ve ever clicked on a video faster than this one

No hate but this must be the 20th Anti King video I've seen. Somebody please tell me how to beat Hworang or any other character damn. (the video was still interesting tho, thanks)

@Visual217

4 ай бұрын

Hwoarang is not as bad as you might think. He's super weak to crouching and side-stepping. Lee on the other hand is significantly more busted.

Im a King main and I cant even throw opponents as they keep spamming safe wr frames fuck all yall for hating King when we have Jun that can easily take half of your life.

@kmk1225

4 ай бұрын

Cry about it, your character is busted, unfair, unfun and unskilled. I’d rather lose to a thousand Juns than one King

@iLikeMenthol

4 ай бұрын

YoUr ChArAcTer Is BuStEd, UnFaIr, UnFuN and UnSkilLed @@kmk1225

@mrjayz94

4 ай бұрын

@@kmk1225Sounds like you’re crying too

King is a cool character. It's the spammer players grabbing

@thanos5149

4 ай бұрын

It’s almost as if that’s the point of king’s character 😱

@Yamisaru

4 ай бұрын

I was gonna say this. 😂😂😂 Everyone hates grapplers ​@@thanos5149

@grandpulse7970

4 ай бұрын

Naw king is extremely mid. The design has always been trash. It's just some dude with a tiger for a head. It's weird and whoever came up with the idea needs therapy. Including the mains who decided to indulge the character

@NovaShen4

4 ай бұрын

@@grandpulse7970mechanically I absolutely hate king, but as a character he’s dope af. That take is the worst I’ve ever seen.

@bobaorc7839

4 ай бұрын

@@NovaShen4 some people really do just lie in bed on their stomachs daydreaming with a sigh, "how can i be different"

14:35 the shade is looking shady 💀😂

Lil Majin would hate this video 😂.. Thank you For this tutorial and knowledge

Most all the moves in this video I try to just use just as reads. You can react to the Ali kicks, it's very obvious and a bad habit I picked up only playing against CPU in T3 At the same time any CH w/ Ali kicks is fully guaranteed as well I believe.

Played Tekken for years and i was always too lazy to check the hands when throws are coming. Im always just guessing it by experience. When it comes to King players, very rarely i see a King that uses most of his throws and playing the actual mind game. So most of the time after one round i usually know which are the ones he will likely do. But in my history shinning wizard is the throw i got hit by the most from all of them😂

Main man acknowledges your Tribal Chief ☝️

remember most newbie king cant giant swing so you can narrow down what moves he uses so you can just plug with less stress XD

As a King main, who just got off a match with a zafina who was literally crawling on the ground 90% of the match, I appreciate the last part lol

I made a red rank King plug on me as Yoshimitsu. I out-bullshitted the bullshit grappler.

@KenzoGamesOfficial

4 ай бұрын

i can make you plug with king

@walmartian422

4 ай бұрын

Well you do have flash which is something that really messes with kings entire strategy.

TMM never disappoints

Here lies Sidestep, May it always be remembered as a good anti-king defense.

@GourmetSoul

4 ай бұрын

2:20

@user-yk4xj6rb6f

4 ай бұрын

throws track now bro

@hermankermit-warm1121

4 ай бұрын

But you can't sidestep throws now? Best learn micro ducking I guess, sheeesh.

@bobaorc7839

4 ай бұрын

"Here lies sidestep for countering king." "Erm um durr sidestepping doesn't work" Holy moley reading comprehension is plummeting

@kmk1225

4 ай бұрын

@@hermankermit-warm1121My guy...read

If someone sidestep i simply do f+4 or f+1+2 while running, and from that moment they stop sidesteping ^^ f+4 is very good move, tracking mid with good range, and from f+1+2 you have free low followup. Most people ducking chainthrows and ws 1+2 and db+2 are too slow and can be punished, high rank kings trying to do f+3 to throw after canceled crouch dash. For b 1,2 you can change to mid ender b 1,4 when someone ducking. For f2,1 you can change to f+2,d+2,1 to launch but second hit must commit, Lilmajin mashing this all the time. King has cure for everything : ]

@johneden2033

4 ай бұрын

Nice profile pic. Lando sends his regards.

This video will make Kings stronger, thank you main man

Not gonna lie king is a cheap pos in T8 his comeback potential is greater than every1 cant begin to count how many times iv been robbed by his heat smash or his ff n 2, combine all that with his amazing poking and best throws in the game

@fatboy561

4 ай бұрын

Better than Paul ?

@Remorsefullyhumble

4 ай бұрын

I loved king but tekken 8 king pisses me off

@Remorsefullyhumble

4 ай бұрын

@@fatboy561 Paul is more honest but still bs at times

@MokBn11

4 ай бұрын

That heat smash should definitely be nerfed. The damage is too crazy

@shadowofthenorthstar989

4 ай бұрын

facts he needs damage nerf at the very least

He is a noob killer. Get in his face and mash all the time with a mix of highs and lows. If he is far, wait for him to attack and dodge punish. There are way more annoying/better characters to deal with than him.

Thanks for the guide.

I noticed that every king wresting move like shining wizar or other trows... the audience go nuts

Watching the whole video, and then realizing there’s another jab at asuka. Well played sir 😂

1:26 I think he made a mistake here, Jaguar Step 1+3 and Jaguar Step 2+4 are both the same throw and can be broken with either 1 or 2 just like regular throws.

i mean a good king can frustrate you with his spacing with shove ff1 f2 great ch game ch throws fundamental tools df1 long ranged jabs he can occasionaly sneak in long range evasive lows d1 he has great punishers i am not aware of new throw mechanics yet he struggles against evasion spacing and breaking turtles

Kings the best. He folds your clothes with his opponent inside of it

As a Raven main, i just parry his armor run mixup

I wish he mentioned King's ff1 somewhere in the vid tbh, was waiting to see the "counter play" to that move, shit hits from like halfscreen

@NineTails87

4 ай бұрын

So do many characters strings that have built in counter hit launchers. FF 1 is slow..

@row6191

4 ай бұрын

@@NineTails87yeahhh no

@NineTails87

4 ай бұрын

@@row6191 There's not much he can get from it anyway. Unlike characters that can spam strings from full screen.

@rafizalpancaputra8379

4 ай бұрын

its one of his tools that you have to respect though. its his get in, CH KND (used to launch on T7 which is one of his absolute key moves), safe, homing power hit tool but its not going to be his turn to pressure if you block it safest bet is to block that since its reactable due to the slow startup, or commit to a counter hit on hard read if you can see it (which is risky). the only reason that move can get you is because he caught you moving and not being aware with spacing

@rafizalpancaputra8379

4 ай бұрын

iirc he's gotta be on around -7 to -9 on block, so he pretty much can't do anything other than trying to win back the neutral game. it's safe, but its not going to be his turn despite the move being unpunishable. he is taking risk if he's opting for pokes on that frame disadvantage EDIT*: ok i just checked in game and its actually -5. a jab can beat pretty much all of his attacking options including the fastest ones (jab or giant swing). theoretically you can do a high crushing low poke to check him after you block ff1 (to duck under his jab and throws and also beating his sidestep options) just in case if a king player can read your jab retaliation by sidestepping right. what's important is that he's definitely on a frame disadvantage if you block it

It's funny to see how a different character gets hated every week. It started with Xiaoyou, then Dragunov, then Deviljin and now King... it's only a matter of time before people focus on the next character. Instead of learning the character's weaknesses, they prefer to cry. Great video by the way.

Moreee of thisss pleaseeeee

TMM is going crazy at the end xD

First everybody have to understand that you just have to "jab check" or even CH fish against King. Also high crushing attacks are highly effective. Additionally King is also quite easy to sidestep, his moves are to slow and if you allow a King Player to "spam", you cant handle any other character either. Beside the fact that most chars can not even only check King with jabs, usually King is getting checked with overpowered fast launcher moves like ewgf. Only beyond that (top 5%) King is getting really scary.

I’m new to tekken and my dad mains king to I have been watching videos to help me beat him whenever I can and this is really helpful but I’m watching this in a quiet classroom with headphones but when he said “I get you ass” I started laughing thankfully i didn’t get in trouble

This really needed to be made before a a Jun, Dragonuv, Xiayou, Hwoarang, and Lee video? Characters that can just camp out in front with strings?

As a king player watched this video to learn of how people fight my boi but the end touched my big wrestler heart main man gets it the real cheese is worse than king

To be fair learning all the chain throws is actually difficult so there is some skill.

figure 4 leg lock is now a 1+2 break

Main Man, can you make a video of best Kazuya punishments Vs King?

Most of beginners know how to Giant Swing and they rarely do the musclebuster, so you better push 1.

Asuka part was funny af 😂😂😂

20:37 "Even if you feel like he doesnt get that much damage with the chainthrow" Just did 60-85 dmg with a throw like an average dmg from an combo

I'll never understand why so many players complain about pluggers and then say they plug against certain characters. Learning from loss is key to getting better.

Plz do this for Eddie I need to be prepared for the Eddie mains

If you can, plz make a vid of how to beat a good Leroy also

Those armor moves where he runs at you was killing me in rank was getting tired of seeing that damn RKO and you can’t tech it I se

We will use this information against them fellow king mains!!! 🐆🐆🐆

Thanks

Hi TMM, can you make a video on how to beat LEE please? Thanks

May Lei be present in a next DLC. 😊

i actually think you can break RDC by spamming 2 tho, I do it every time without waiting for the neck crack and I get the break

The fact that there is no indication for 1 or 2 breaks in some of his grabs is tilting.

King is true Zangief now. You literally have to zone him to stand a chance. Because once he gets his hands on you, it's over.

they should have made king's pokes worse. tracks being homing has made king a real 50/50 monster, you have to play super clean keepout vs him or you are guessing for 60 non recovarable health every time

For those who hate King's grab, the reason it only shines now is because of counter grab and blue grab. There was a "Bug" on the grab that was supposed to have been known by Namco, but it might turn out that that "Bug" may not actually be a "Bug" but an actual feature. King's grab can be amplified by doing blue grab - which is easier said than done. When we said amplified, it just makes King's throw damage be the same as max damage as before since his throw damage, believe it or not has been reduced. But here is the thing. A true king player doesn't rely on ff->N2. Nor will they rely on the dashing Knee. True king players will rely in closing the gap using tracking moves and with his bread and butter move from the first tekken tag now back on the menu, his options to close in is now much better. What you guys need to be aware of is actually ff+1+2 it closes gaps, has good tracking, makes a great counter for a guaranteed setup etch. Also, a true King player will always wait to do a counter, either to do a juggle or throw because King's counter attacks are freaking STRONG. They will poke you to counter attack them so that they can finish you off much faster. Ah almost forgot. You must be aware that although it's rare, there are King players that actually mastered King's Kick and Punch counter. This is because most of the damaging moves for juggle starters, pokes or setup are either using 2, like the Mishimas Wind God Fist or by Kicks like Hoarang. You really need to fear these king players who mastered King's counter and parry because King's Punch Counter cannot be chickened out, and so does his Kick counters. This counters can lead to setups and even at times painful ground throws or people's elbow. King is easy to use, but in reality HARD TO MASTER. No player in the world has actually MASTERED KING, since his arsenal is so diverse that majority of the King players fall in the "Meta" trap of move list since, lets admit it, it's hard to memorize all of King's moves, more so than your typical characters that are either a Juggling power house, Counter, or poker type character. King actually is the Jack of all trades in the game, hence he could either be easy to predict at high Elo/Rank or a pain in the ass - Literally.

i can see throws from distance but close i cant

I’m glad I just button mashing with azucena lmao this dude was crouching at me put me in the infinite grab I just mashed 2 no way to guess it properly

Now we need an anti azucena guide

If king don't get nerfed. I want larger color coded sparks on grapples so I can actually see what I'm supposed to break. I legit cannot react to "which arm is slightly closer" BS.