If This Is A Sword Art, Why Are We Using Rattan? KALI, ARNIS, ESCRIMA
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Kali, Arnis, Escrima and other Filipino martial arts train with sticks so frequently, that a lot of people don't know that there's a huge tradition of different swords, knives, and other bladed weapons associated with it. But why are the sticks so well known?
Edited to add: People have been asking about my eye. That's not a training injury, that's from an extended sneezing session, and is painless and harmless. That said, eye protection is absolutely essential, and if you're not using any in your training, you really need to rethink what you're doing before someone loses an eye.
Edit #2: I've been corrected - rattan isn't a vine (although it grows similarly to one), it's actually a species of palm! Okay, good to know!
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Alright, you got a subscriber. This is good stuff. I'm a firm believer that some of the best martial arts is when you train with weapons. FMA hits the nail on the head for certain.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
All great reasons to use rattan for sparring or impact training! Another consideration I think is worth considering is the weight of the training item, and how those items can be wielded. Moving a 20oz steel blade feels different than a 7oz rattan stick, and requires more body movement and tighter mechanics to make it effective. If someone is training with the idea of it being a blade-based art, I think there is a lot of value in using heavier sticks/metal trainers when they can (solo drills, hitting tires, etc).
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you. Using a variety of weights and sizes I think is essential, and as you mention, they also need to be used in different settings like solo drills or hitting tires.
@johnlloyddy7016
2 ай бұрын
There are actually sticks made from hardwood like Kamagong(ebony)and Magkuno(ironwood)which are heavier and more stiff that resembles a blade's weight. But it's mostly used by the more experienced practitioners for solo training as it is dangerous for use in sparring considering it would be like sparring with G.I. pipes. I own a pair made from Magkuno and they are lethal as heck. Wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of a strike from those.
@chrispariso1040
2 ай бұрын
@@johnlloyddy7016 I trained in the Villabrille - Largusa system for a long time, which traditionally uses a heavier garote (flat stick) as the standard weapon. That or 1lb cocobolo sticks are what I tend to use for any training outside of full speed/contact partner drills. For use as a weapon on their own, or as a proxy for bladed items, I much prefer the heavier sticks. Rattan certainly has it's place for safety reasons, but I never liked training with them.
I so appreciate you, you are knowledgeable and traditional. I am only sad that the people that do not understand what you are saying probably won’t hear this. God bless!
@gurobadger
Күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, and I hope you enjoy my upcoming videos as well.
Our late Guro, GM Brian "Buzz" Smith always tell us, " The Stick is use to teach the way of the Blade".
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
And may your guro rest in peace, with his students carrying on his legacy.
Nicely done and articulated.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
New subscriber, thanks for a very informative video. I kinda always guessed this, or maybe just assumed it.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I was kind of going through that same train of thought before I did this video. - "everybody already knows this, right? Or maybe they don't ... "
I definitely agree 💯%... As a kid During the 90s i remember i brought my dads shiny arnis kamagong in school. It has a thin strip of leather that wrapped around it served as a handle. i bring it simply bcoz i just want to showing it off with my classmates, coz they're just using a much cheaper and lighter version, which is the rattan... The P.E. class started, i mightily wielded it. When my instructor suddenly appeared Infront of me, telling that i will not participate unless i have the rattan. I ended up warming the bench watching them.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
That's a great memory - you would've ruled the class!
Great stuff! A great 101 to why
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Because its a safe training tool. If an attorney represents himself in a court case, he has a fool for a lawyer. If a knife fighter trains with a (sharpie), he has a fool for a surgeon.
uh...so you don't chop each other's fingers off?
Cool stuff, i love kali eskrima. Another channel i subscribe after kali center.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Glad to have you join!
Have you broken your eye in fma training? If yes , that's just badass ❤
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Ha, thankfully not! I've had plenty of FMA injuries (kind of unavoidable as a Dog Brother), but the eye is a burst blood vessel from an extended sneezing session!
I've noticed that practitioners don't kick higher than your waist. Is this because you saw the stick as a blade? Is it really required to follow the rule, or can you choose to kick higher?
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Good observation - arnisadors, etc., don't often kick above the waist, and many don't kick above the knee. The idea is that knives are common (especially in some parts of the world like the Philippines) so you're taking an unnecessary risk at putting your leg into range of a blade. That said, rules are made to be broken, and a well-timed high kick can be a fight ender - risks vs. rewards. In contrast, we kick high in the Thai weapons art of Krabi Krabong, so there's definitely ways to make it work.
Good for safe by using a basic one or two sticks. If you professional and experts by single sword and double dagger. The best with hand to hand (Sticky Hands).
Remember the half inches, lower hand of stick is a dagger to hold the wrist and some rotation hand to hand combat. It is not same of fencing.
OMG your eye! You okay?
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Thanks, hombre. Eye is okay - it's an extended sneezing fit, not a training injury. Painless and harmless.
See: your eye bro
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Ha, luckily that's from an extended sneezing jag, not from poor training choices, but it kinda works in context, eh?
@burgertime72
2 ай бұрын
@@gurobadger we trained with full machetes briefly in early 90s at IU . I’m glad I still have my eyeballs
This is why grabbing the stick in training isn't realistic or good Training.
@gurobadger
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I expect a lot of people have learned disarming techniques, but never take a moment to think about whether it's a stick-only technique, or potentially for a blade as well.