IEC wants to hear MK Party's claims on 'rigged' elections in court
The IEC is calling on the Electoral Court to decline MK Party's withdrawal of the legal bid to have the May 29th election outcomes set aside. The MK party claimed that the elections were not free and fair, and alleged to have evidence to prove the polls were rigged, but withdrew this bid last week. Legal Director at the Institute for Election Management Services in Africa Nkululeko Tselane has more.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
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Lol😂😂😂, when mk wanted IEC, they were running, now mk is pulling away and IEC is running after them
@Cuewill
18 күн бұрын
You killing me bro😂😂 that’s so true
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
IEC never ran, that's why MK must be held to account. IT'S ABOUT TIME POLITICIANS ARE EXPOSED FOR LYING TO THE PUBLIC...
@chiefer1325
18 күн бұрын
Yeah, you can't spread rumours and when it's time for evidence, you run away....MK must provide the so called evidence
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
You're so delusional it's unbelievable 😂😂😂😂😂
@thabopike5842
18 күн бұрын
I don't remember IEC running. All they wanted was proof.. Did MK supply proof? Instead MK told us they will go to the International Court. Aaaaai nani
I want this to go to court as MK member
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
Me too, I don't want the case withdrawn...
IEC telling MK to keep that energy.
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This a a typical zuma party dance wail and then hide when in courts.
Guest good speaker nice and clear, knows if stuff. Need more black people like him in gov.
@sizwelungambethe6485
18 күн бұрын
We are not black we are Africans
Yeah, bring that evidence 😂
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
You repeat a clear propaganda, they overuse the term "evidence" to mislead the naive who can't see through the truth
Where is evidence bring forward
@jacklenge531
18 күн бұрын
Clevor blacks a a problem in this country
😂😂😂 Zuma has always been such a guy... No evidence just him as a victim... Know wonder Mbeki dismissed him
@user-tm8qf6zr8w
19 күн бұрын
That why Mbeki didn't finish his term and his cope didn't succeed as well 😂😂😂
@sanelemkhize9176
19 күн бұрын
That why Mbeki samunika 2/3 majority wangawusebenzisa that why Mbeki ayekelela abantu befa ngenxa yeHIV
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
19 күн бұрын
Mbeki is jealous of Zuma and he will never succeed look at hi party😂
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
Don't believe in propaganda, evidence was all over including live videos.
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
Looks like you don't understand what evidence means, you keep on harping on one word, the court will deal with evidence not a group of parrots. IEC and blind followers keep on repeating same word.
MK should provide evidence our democracy was questioned.
IEC fighting ANC battles, pathetic
@carlruppert7324
19 күн бұрын
What are you talking about?
@jiwwo1799
19 күн бұрын
@carlruppert7324 What is it that it's not clear in this comment??..Yes iec is fighting anc's battle😕, and SAfricans spoken during elections
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
19 күн бұрын
I agree with you, ANC is IEC
@unathimichaelmxaku8105
19 күн бұрын
why did they lost votes if IEC is captured by ANC?
@carlruppert7324
18 күн бұрын
@@jiwwo1799 no, the IEC is fighting to clear its name against serious accussations made against it, by MK. Has nothing to do with the ANC.
We want to hear the case in court. Don't swipe it under the carpet
Where is the evidence of 9000 mk votes that they founded in the dustbins😂
@user-uq9ry1pf5w
19 күн бұрын
Some live evidence in Pietermaritzburg court cases
You dont withdraw a case when you have concrete evidence as they claimed they did,now they lying to their supporters saying they are fixing the case's technicalities,kudlaliwe ngeylima la
IEC is running after MK now😂😂😂
But the the DA also submitted an application to stop the case, why the IEC didn`t stop DA`s afidavid?
@nkululekotselane539
18 күн бұрын
The DA's affidavit isn't asking for the election results to be overturned or for a re-run of the elections so there's no reason for the IEC to oppose it
@magugunkandi8584
16 күн бұрын
DA asked Electoral Court to dismiss the case
Check mate,
Ziyakhala ke manje 😂😂😂😂😂
Follow the case in Durban.
IEC must stop the PR exercise, MKP is coming back fully, it's a temporal withdrawal...Nkululeko Tselane must come back and talk talk talk when the matter is resubmitted in court with the additional evidence that the IEC did not want to be included....
Yes let's hear the evidence thy hv, thy can't hide such evidence 😂😂
@mallimapengu5412
18 күн бұрын
Hear the evidence and do what?
@NdumisoZulu-di4dn
18 күн бұрын
It is not evidence that is not available but IEC is capitalizing on principles and time frame on how and when IEC court is approached with evidence of vote rigging .
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
17 күн бұрын
@@NdumisoZulu-di4dnBut the electoral court does give benefit of the doubt when it comes to deadlines,provided the party have concrete evidence
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
Lol do they have nah
By that time, some MK members still in denial that MK withdrew the case and saying we are listening to SABC from Stellenboch lier. M just wondering if this was communicated to them bcz it's here☝️
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
😂😂this 1ns I wish I can open their minds nd see what's happening coz wow
@nthabibotsi9855
14 күн бұрын
@@mogauledwaba9629 Difficult people indeed 🤣
Yes yes yes yes I support the call for IEC but will they hold ther stand if MK findings are biding
propaganda is galore these days, niyahlekisa kodwa, you can't even hide it.
Is better they withdraw, because it's gonna be wast of time, no matter the evidence they will never win the case
2/3 majority 😂mkhulu Zumpta promised them heaven and earth😂today he fires them😂Mr reshuffle Wenzeni uzuma?Kaaak
Sebeyithathaphi lendaba ngoba bebengayikhulumi bangama social media
@BuyaniShezi-ek6ly
19 күн бұрын
Phela basebenzela imnqundu
Please force them to prove ngeke sizwe ngo zuma nd mk
Siya kwi criminal court, cos labantu bantshonsthile ngokwe MK
All of this could've been avoided with a recount which could've just taken 3 days😏
@davidopsina3871
16 күн бұрын
Yes, the election WAS rigged but the MK Bantus are powerless and must shut up. They can do NOTHING.
MK has lost credibility by not providing evidence of their claims.
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣like a parrot you repeat "evidence" propaganda, they know that evidence exist but are trying to fool the weak minds. This court case will proceed, just watch this space
@silaskhalishwayo
18 күн бұрын
But we all saw what happened...results manipulated and people sent back home 😂😂😂what is free and fare about that...let's not act stupid because we hate zuma
@ShawnRademeyer
18 күн бұрын
@@bonganidumisa1458 Evidence is kind of important.
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
18 күн бұрын
@@silaskhalishwayo The election was not well run but that does not mean that it was not free and fair. There are small problems in every election but they don't affect the overall picture. All disputes were dealt with by the IEC and some recounts were done. There is no evidence of widespread manipulation. Your team lost. Get over it.
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
@@ShawnRademeyer you are neither a good listener nor a good reader; you are not following the story instead you repeat "evidence" which the culprits are using as a shield.
They should go and present those to themselves and hear that case themselves .is that difficult ?..MK has no time for obvious judicial processes with predictable outcomes
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
Are they not the 1 who started this..sometimes I question things bizikhulumayo
@SonOfTheSoil834
14 күн бұрын
@@mogauledwaba9629 yes but they have withdrew the case so are they suppose to be forced to proceed with it ?
Bayiqhela kakubi IEC why withdrawal now this case should continue let them bring the evidence that they claim to be in their possession what about the reputation of the IEC ? They're running away now wearing temporary shoes
@zakhelemathenjwa1269
19 күн бұрын
Just relax they will show the evidence ❤
@zakhelemathenjwa1269
19 күн бұрын
Lo IEC uyathithiza zolo lokhu bene DA bebechitha isicelo ebesi fakwe Mk enkontolo iMK yenza ubuchule yathi iyalihoxisa icala ngenhloso yalokhu ukuthi benze lokhu esikufunayo ukuthi Liye e court seziyakhala ke manje 😂 sebezifake bona enkantolo 😂😂😂
@jiwwo1799
19 күн бұрын
Make sure that you listen to the news nd stay updated..an Iec official was arrested for rigging votes scandal, what does that mean to you??, bt anyway ke sesiyokbona kwiCutting Edge 😂
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
19 күн бұрын
Before you leave your stupid comment please open your ears wide...the case is not withdrawn but only the papers that they submitted, they are going to submit again including all parties they IEC robbed.
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
19 күн бұрын
@@jiwwo1799😂😂😂
Can IEC force MK to go back to court after they withdraw?
Have the MK banned.
Nayo lena izodliwa yinja😂, animazi kahle uBABA. Umethi ANDIZI he means exactly that 😂😂😂😂😂
Temporary is the key word in all this.
The question is it against the law to withdraw a case and this person is he the spokes person of IEC...I have not seen this pros speak of any good in the process,, If anyone has a issue with IEC, they should be heard..
Defamation of character is very cruel is not healthy for good human beings.let’s always respect each others and the constitution of our country.we will more importantly to ourselves and others.human can course harm to others
The question should be where do you get these analysts that give you the questions in advance?
@nkululekotselane539
18 күн бұрын
Thank you for the compliment! We actually don't know the questions in advance. They just trust that we know what we're talking about
@TeeOff72
18 күн бұрын
@@nkululekotselane539 lol 😆 thanks for your honesty
Yes we want to see the evidence!!
@silaskhalishwayo
18 күн бұрын
Are you living in England 😂😂😂😂we all saw votes stolen and brought back...iec screen showing wrong numbers, and people sent back home without voting 😂😂😂or you act stupid because you hate Zuma 😂
When have seen a lot of videos of ballot papers in trucks, South Africa you must also remember 26 parties submitted their complaint to IEC for vote rigging only MK party took the matter to court.
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
17 күн бұрын
So according to you finding blank ballot papers in trucks that were going to be delivered in VD's is evidence of vote rigging😂😂😂
why would IEC be allowed to waste public money on endless court battles.
@chiefer1325
18 күн бұрын
MK must go and provide evidence....
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
18 күн бұрын
Public will want to see how delusional MK is
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
No James, it's MK that took the case to the Electoral court and they said they have evidence. Let them prove their case or stand a risk of being embarrassed 😂
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
18 күн бұрын
@@BrotherM1978 James doesn't do logic or rationality
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
18 күн бұрын
@@BrotherM1978 don't mind him. He's ZANU PF spy
Labantu bayasphoqa ngoba bacabanga ukuthi sizolwa kanti ngeke silwe
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
Ilwabi ngoba nithanda ukulwa vele
Tselane you continue taint your name, just a concerned citizen....
A withdrawn case refers to a legal matter that has been temporarily or permanently removed from the court's docket at the request of the party who initiated it. Although the case is not currently active, it has not been fully resolved or concluded and may be reopened or refiled in the future.
@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276
18 күн бұрын
Only a court judgment can provide legal certainty in this matter; it must be revisited in court and tested.
@Sebiner
18 күн бұрын
But unfortunately the Electoral Court deals with urgent cases related to the election. Withdrawing their case does not bode well for the urgency component, and their case might be dismissed if the file again.
Who placed it in dustbins and was it legit forms😅
Who is this guy...
Zuma used to rig votes. In 2014 there was vote rigging in Gauteng and EFF was most affected. But Malema didn't cry foul. So, thinks that, there was vote rigging, since he is rigger
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
Mxm this zuma...wen it favour's him he doesnt say anything...always a victim angisho
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
14 күн бұрын
@@mogauledwaba9629 then in 2014, Malema refused to take action. He stated that, there was gonna be blood bath and he accepted and move on. 10yrs later he's in opposition bench he cry foul cos he knows how votes are rigged
For so long , Jacob Zuma had the SA taxpayer pick up his legal costs , he is surprised that HE has to pay his own legal costs now .
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
You're playing the man instead of the ball
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
18 күн бұрын
Beside legal bill, he's got no evidence
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b Mr Evidence, sure you repeat the word even in your sleep 🤣
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b Mr Evidence 🤣 can you go beyond "EVIDENCE?"
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
17 күн бұрын
@@bonganidumisa1458 beyond evidence, it is Zuma's monkey tricks as always.
A party of Misfits, should be called the Misfit Party.
@bonganidumisa1458
18 күн бұрын
Learn to state the facts instead of labelling political parties. What's your point "sir"?
I as a member of mk need this to go to court,electoral court my decline the withdrawal.because i want to know who is advising President Zuma or its just a money making skeem for dali mpofu
@senzomemela1311
18 күн бұрын
Dali Mpofu, has done very well, for MK won 3 cases out of 1...think!!!
@ThaboBanger
18 күн бұрын
@@senzomemela1311 let him go and defend,boz my problem is mk knows that the courts are against Mkp but they are busy with that instead of focusing on governing kzn
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
@@senzomemela1311 uthini na😂😂😂 He won 3 cases out of 1😂😂😂😂😂
@Zandile-mi3xo
18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
We as south Africans we are standing with zuma,DA minister of home affairs from Zimbabwe started his nosense in our country
@khanyingosi9229
18 күн бұрын
Please don't say as Africans, standing with Zuma,we don't like him don't speak for everyone speak for yourself
@bongekahabe9656
18 күн бұрын
So why ningafakkanga minister ye MK kwi home affairs nohlulwe yini pho
@user-hd4hr2yo4l
18 күн бұрын
He not from Zimbabwe n there is legit proof😅
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
U and who
They must not Rush everything is in order
MK allegations are sooo serious ...they cant just withdraw
But we all saw iec incompetence and vote stolen..and people sent back home without voting 😂😂what is free and far about that😂
😂mk party always ahead of them 😂 now they are playing in the hands of mkhonto.
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
17 күн бұрын
You are so delusional😂😂
@petrosdlamini1761
17 күн бұрын
@@AndileNkosi-kf8em 😂 okay let's see
Ramaphosa is hoping that the MK will refuse but he will be sursprised when the matter goes to court and they get exposed
@davidmkefa4188
18 күн бұрын
This is not about Ramaphosa,it is between IEC and Zuma's claims
@Technology24
18 күн бұрын
@@davidmkefa4188 Nah Ramaphosa you know it is about you playing tricks
@khanyingosi9229
18 күн бұрын
Why always Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa? what about the guptas
@khanyingosi9229
18 күн бұрын
Absolutely 💯 agreed
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
Let them surprise the country by bringing the evidence before surprising Ramaphosa, how about that😂😂😂😂😂
That good to hear this rigging of elections
Withdrawal is temporarily. Matter is legal and some aspects found to be criminal. The matter must go back to court. However, if the electoral court wants to dismiss matter by responding by means of a MEMO , then MK must witdraw case. The electorate needs a public transparent court case. MK must take the time to regroup and send matter back to court. IEC cannot be left to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result -thats INSANITY. Nor should it be allowed for electoral court to dismiss case using a memo to MK.
@OkuhleMtilwaKaMjoli
18 күн бұрын
That's what MK is plaining to do, they said they are withdrawing the Initial application but they are going to submit another one, what is discussed here is not true reflection of what MK said
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
That long message and no substance 😂. The Electoral court has not responded on the matter stop with your lies. But Let's say you're right, if the evidence exists and the court decides to rule against MKP, they can always appeal to the higher court. It's precisely because they know they DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE that they want to withdraw. They can't make such serious allegations especially towards such an important institution and not provide evidence. They MUST ACCOUNT...
News channels always speak and make news about MK but it's unethical that it's always in their absence funny the DA is always represented when it's being talked about. I dnt like MK but this can't be ethical journalism
@WilliamPulles
19 күн бұрын
It’s because there is no person within MK to have an intelligent discussion with. It’s a grouping of morons
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
Again it's the media's fault. These guys brought this unto themselves. Their spokesperson kept saying they will provide evidence when they get to court, LET THEM PROVIDE IT OR FACE BEING HUMILIATED FOR LYING TO SOUTH AFRICANS. IT'S TIME POLITICIANS KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MAKE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. There's nothing unethical here...
IEC must relax, why the rush
@mogauledwaba9629
14 күн бұрын
Why was mk in a rush to go to court?
Who is the guy with big ears, he sound mnqundu-wish
@user-ep2pm9bz5w
19 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@BrotherM1978
18 күн бұрын
Don't worry who he is, worry about what he is saying...