Being "ironically" racist can and will attract genuine racists.

@419chris419

Жыл бұрын

And? So are you saying when a comedian jokes about certain subjects it attracts certain people? How's it the fault of the comedian?

@charlietraynor-croft6393

Жыл бұрын

But you should still be able to make jokes without being called racist, sexist, or whatever.

@nebbygetinthebag7263

Жыл бұрын

@@419chris419 no christ, Nido very clearly stated, 'Being "ironically" racist can and will attract genuine racists.' Please show me where the word 'comedian' is used and also, show me where the comedy of saying slurs is.

@benmccabe1060

Жыл бұрын

@@charlietraynor-croft6393 im with you on this but the n-word kind of crosses a line in this day and age

@hizui7904

Жыл бұрын

@@nebbygetinthebag7263 they were making an analogy...

Its really easy to pretend there was no harm done when you weren't the one being harmed

@1mclv

Жыл бұрын

Isn't Critikal gay?

@d0llst4r

Жыл бұрын

@@1mclv he’s not black tho. Black people were most affected by iddubz content. I mean, yeah he’s gay but before that he’s white and therefore wasn’t the target for the racism and bigotry. /nm

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

As a minority, no harm was done.

@Moomi_Is_Us

Жыл бұрын

@@jhonklan3794 as a minority, harm was done

@olliebearblu7783

Жыл бұрын

@@d0llst4r critikal is gay??

it feels like he didnt even watch the video at all....

There’s a big difference between actions that are cringe and those that are downright wrong and unacceptable

@meatystalactite531

11 ай бұрын

And idubbbz’s were just cringe.

@trexasaurus5322

6 ай бұрын

Boohoo bro he said a joke 7 years ago that everyone made

@ahmedkabadeh2565

5 ай бұрын

@@meatystalactite531brother no, he literally ripped the Quran book in half💀

@Nolan-Boi

2 ай бұрын

There’s an even bigger difference between jokes and actions

@aninelson8866

Ай бұрын

he killed an actual real life mouse. he knew there was a living animal inside the box he was chasing it ith his fist you can find the video easy

When I was in middle school groups of white boys would chase me down the halls screaming “n***** f*****” because it would make me cry. Without fail. My parents and grandparents and great grandmother would sit me down and tell me stories of slavery, bigotry, misogyny, r*pe and dehumanization. That is what those words carry. I understand not all people realize this is what these words carry. So people are speaking out about it. That’s what this is about. That is the harm that was facilitated. The ignorance and the weaponization of language under the guise of apathy. I don’t mean to lecture. Im just disappointed in this take. I understand that hatred wasn’t Ian’s intention, but it is nice he is willing to take responsibility. 2016 KZread was awful for so many children of color and there was an impact. It all feels so counterproductive to undermine Ian’s apology and reflection. Him speaking on his turn to empathy is useful for people on the fence about things. It’s just disappointing to see this vid.

@OYJluv

Жыл бұрын

I respect you.

@jimmybobbyjoe

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Jesus fuck I was about to go insane seeing some of these replies. I’m a fan of Charlie but this was an absolutely shit take. I just saw a video that D’Angelo Wallace made and he did a good job of shooting down Charlie’s ignorance and reflecting on the impact that iDubbbz made on a huge generation of kids. Hearing Charlie say “you used those words for edgy shock humor,” and “you’re not a racist” takes a sledgehammer to everything that iDubbbz is apologizing for.

@sabersin7694

Жыл бұрын

That is literally the biggest load of bullshit I've heard in a while. You have never tasted true bigotry your whole life.

@nooneimportant8157

Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely the least convincing story I've ever read. 0/10

@lailaauto33

Жыл бұрын

@@nooneimportant8157 why do you say that? i am not black, but I am indigenous and people would call me slurs as a kid because they knew it affected me. I wasn't old enough to understand it completely, but I knew that those slurs were wrong and carried the stories of horrific acts my ancestors went through by colonizers. try to have some empathy

I don't think Charlie is fully grasping the impact iDubbbz content had on kids back in the day.

@miguelsalazar1059

Жыл бұрын

I did commit 79 war crimes due to his content yea, all of them were in call of duty but still

@bouldrycraft12

Жыл бұрын

Charlie’s whole point is that it’s not his fault kids watched his clearly adult content because they had no parents monitoring them anyways and idubbz made videos for older people who were supposed to understand the nuance of using the slur like how South Park is technically two white guys saying the n word but trey Parker and Matt stone shouldn’t apologize either they just don’t do it anymore which is showing their understanding.

@nono-yw3tv

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelsalazar1059 I know right? 🤣

@mxlcxlm1518

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I literally had ppl in school come up to me in school and called me racial slurs all bc of ppl like Ian, Filthy Frank and Leafy. How does he not get it?

@jaden2758

Жыл бұрын

@@mxlcxlm1518 because thats such a isolated experience and frankly i just dont believe that was the only reason why, during middle and highschool (where they were at their biggest) i had been to 4 different schools and never had that kinda stuff happen because of fans of a youtuber

i think this might literally be the only video from Charlie that's at all negatively recieved

@user-do8rf3jg9r

2 ай бұрын

fr all of those mad kids

@vespine1749

2 ай бұрын

@@user-do8rf3jg9rfor every right reason

@personperson8563

2 ай бұрын

@@user-do8rf3jg9rit’s justified, if you lived in a predominantly white area during the Idubbz area getting “ironically” called slurs and the N-word behind your back was supper common. Hearing it justified using the idubbz/leafy rhetoric was also common. Straight up racism and bullying, Heavily inspired by and carried out using idubbz arguments. He now realized this and apologized for it. He realized his legacy has both directly and indirectly cause so many kids to be unironically bullied, have slurs used against them. He had also directly radicalized many kids, causing them to turn into slur chucking racist edge lords, and he deeply regrets that. Charlie’s excusing him. L take from Charlie.

@Cherry-pu4mx

Ай бұрын

He tends to have bad takes because he goes through content too quickly

@mommyissue

Ай бұрын

​​@@user-do8rf3jg9rno shhhtt they mad ain't no need to explain nothing to you causes I already know your ssttpid as ain't even gonna listen so whatever.😂🙄🙄😷

This is the first time ever I think I’ve seen everyone against Charles

@realskydiver777

4 ай бұрын

this is like his only bad take

@adrianhernandez.j2956

2 ай бұрын

@@realskydiver777that and the way he would always glaze mr.beast but was dead quiet when they criticized him for his friend being a trans woman

@realskydiver777

2 ай бұрын

@@adrianhernandez.j2956 I’m pretty sure he said something tho. But even if not, not saying something is different than saying something wrong

@billbrennan2347

2 ай бұрын

It’s the correct take

@adrianhernandez.j2956

2 ай бұрын

@@realskydiver777 he mentioned chris on a stream but didn’t exactly specify why he was getting hate. But Also he didn’t do a whole video about like he would always do with every other small mr beast drama.

Making a 21 minute video about how his 10 minute apology was too much and unnecessary is peak irony.

@cloeunderwood11

Жыл бұрын

that’s so funny😂i didn’t even peep

@slaterov

Жыл бұрын

his apology was 17 mins

@iggynub

Жыл бұрын

You don't understand the word irony, as there isn't a hint of it here. Watching and having a response or reaction to a long form statement isn't ironic, regardless of your feelings about it.

@tumescent

Жыл бұрын

@@iggynub The irony comes from criticizing the long form statement's lack of conciseness in a fashion that is equally if not more long-winded and disrespectful to the viewer's time. It's the definition of irony.

@alberteinstein8862

Жыл бұрын

@@iggynub the CEO of irony

really weird take to not accept an apology that wasn't for you to begin with

@jackaryyy

Жыл бұрын

Where are you? Go look at any other comments section. Especially on any other social media. Nobody agrees with idubbbz, they think he's being a massive cock and that most of his videos weren't even that bad. Seriously most of them are him down speaking saying awful things. Also they're just going to be re-uploaded right now. If you really want to grow then you accept your past

@redactedname8228

Жыл бұрын

Right? And then to make another video basically doubling down is odd...

@ihaveathingforredheads3639

Жыл бұрын

I’m usually eager to hear his takes on things like this but him being so ignorant is something I didn’t expect to hear

@mesaplayer9636

Жыл бұрын

Idubz is apologizing to the community not just black people 🙄

@ne3371

Жыл бұрын

@@mesaplayer9636 1. No one here mentioned black people and 2. Yes, he apologised for many things and specifically directed an apology to “black and minority people”

Why would you need to tell someone their apology is wrong?

@troypowers750

Жыл бұрын

To make sure it's actually genuine or serious.

@Tubeytime

11 ай бұрын

To let them know they're overthinking things that don't actually matter, hypothetically speaking.

@ivonne8068

11 ай бұрын

@@Tubeytime still an L take from Charlie tbh

@game_boyd1644

11 ай бұрын

@@troypowers750 that's not what he's doing here. He's telling idubzz that an apology not directed toward him in the first place wasn't necessary. Does that make any sense to you?

@game_boyd1644

11 ай бұрын

@@Tubeytimeso it doesn't matter that his content encouraged people to normalize the use of dehumanizing words, and that he now regrets that and wants to apologize to the people he affected for it? I genuinely don't get it. This apology wasn't meant for people who weren't affected by his content in the past. Why do you feel the need to call it out if it doesn't affect you? Unless you think you're one of the basement dwelling losers he called out?

This is so tone deaf and I hate that you can't see the damage he's done and accept that he was wrong

@vladimirgluten781

11 ай бұрын

what damage lmfao

@user-gt7op7we8e

11 ай бұрын

Why are there so many crybabies whining about being damaged by words? It feels like I'm on Twitter.

@JayDayKay

11 ай бұрын

What damage, I’m actually curious

@theodddish1846

11 ай бұрын

What was the damage?

@mmmmongooseiii384

11 ай бұрын

The people asking “what damage” obviously didnt watch the actual apology where he talks about very real instances of damage such as his interactions with fans and the harassment to his wife

He didn’t make an apology to satisfy some angry mob, no one was trying to cancel him. He did it because he knew it would get rid of the type of audience he doesn’t want around anymore and I get it.

@thatroxxguy

Жыл бұрын

He did it to get sympathy points from his PC crowd

@ergoth154

Жыл бұрын

Bruh they already left before that cringey apology lol

@kairabyrd2790

Жыл бұрын

i agree, but he did also cultivate that audience and contribute to those people feeling validated and comforted in the way they act. as a black person, i saw firsthand how this kind of content resulted in casual racist jokes and any apology won’t make that impact he had go away

@KagatoAsuka

Жыл бұрын

Actually there is currently an angry mob due to what happened with Creator Crash 2.

@Rxnextgenradio

Жыл бұрын

@@thatroxxguy you’re the type of ppl he’s trying to shake lmao sit n spin nerd

It’s not like he was a child when he was doing this stuff. He was a 28 year old man.

@Lanooski

Жыл бұрын

people get wise to shit at different rates. as he's addressed his social scope was limited compared to where it is now and his biggest period of growth was defined by encouragement and validation for whatever he was doing or saying at the time. people twice as old as him have identical views to what he had at 28 and worse yet what many people have at 17. look at Tate.

@benabroad8872

Жыл бұрын

@@Lanooski True, but it’s just odd he suddenly got wise when KZread started cracking down on harassment/language

@Tibovl

Жыл бұрын

​@@benabroad8872 KZread has been hammering down on edgy content for several years. It's not like that's a thing that just happened last month. Ian is trying distance himself from his past self. And as a result he regrets many things he did, some of them which were not that bad. This can happen at any age in your life. I think it's far more harmful to not question yourself and justify your own behaviour unreasonably.

@aledso

Жыл бұрын

People who disliked what he used to do are just soft weird twitter people, apparently even now when he's trying to gain them as audience they still don't like him lol

@enoch13th85

Жыл бұрын

@@Tibovl If he regrets it because YT are hammering down on it then he's not sorry. He's just a b'ch. Nothing he did harmed anyone. The only person to call him out on it is himself.

While idubbz and his behavior were reflective of the times, I still feel like his apology was warranted wholeheartedly. One of those axe forgets but the tree remembers type of things. Damage is done either way so to try and reconcile is always welcome

@youforget1000thingsaday

11 ай бұрын

It wasn't okay even then. The n-word was always racist. 😂

@housespider9971

11 ай бұрын

@@youforget1000thingsaday never said it was okay lol but you're right

@Sneedmire

10 ай бұрын

Low impulse control does far more damage than idubbz making a joke. Maybe the population "damaged" by the jokes needs to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get a job.

@arsyn8353

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@Sneedmiredude really? Are you a POC? Are you a member of the LGBTQ? Are you Jewish? Do you know how shitty it was to go to school and get targeted by the “edgy” kids who watched his videos and harassed those communities? He apologized because those same kids who watched his content went on to directly imitate his “edgy” persona and it did cause damage. Just because you didn’t experience it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t real. And using the “need to get a job” thing is so 40 year old white housewife it’s stinky and lame be better.

@Min-xw8gn

9 ай бұрын

@@Sneedmireme when racism is just minorities feeling sorry for themselves:

I genuinely dont understand this video even weeks later this whole video is just so strange. "never seen someone try and debunk an apology" is a good way to put it as I saw someone else in the comments say. Aswell as charlie just speaking on this at all since idubbz's apology was in no way directed at him💀

@Daveforever

11 ай бұрын

Charlie is just being real, fuck off

@EnlargedPotato

10 ай бұрын

It’s so weird dude yeah of course he didn’t have to apologize but the fact that he did shows that he understands his negative impact and makes it so much more meaningful. This is such a basement dweller take no offense charlie

@r3ckl3ssofficial

10 ай бұрын

@@EnlargedPotato it’s not the fact he didn’t need to apologize. Charlie specifically says that’s fine. He SAID he shouldn’t have apologized for everything he did as a whole. The only things he should’ve apologized for was the slurs

@SparaticSpartan

7 ай бұрын

I’m here like 4 months later just in awe lmao

@ALLAHQURANMOHAMED-ib1qb

Ай бұрын

CRY AND READ QURAN

It fills me with humanitarian faith that Charlie isn’t being blindly followed.

@patrickkinnear8625

Жыл бұрын

No, but idubbbz is. He said naughty words and it was basically another Holocaust

@Thomas_Angelo

Жыл бұрын

Let's gooo

@Thomas_Angelo

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickkinnear8625 he is hitler basically.

@icanbreathe9161

Жыл бұрын

Bc his audience is older and can think for themselves

@lad5912

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I may not agree with some comments but its a good thing to see a discussion

Rice literally picked on a woman who was assaulted… that’s absolutely worth being criticized on a large stage.

@brysonius

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he’s saying he didn’t do some things that were valid or warranted. He’s just not proud of what he’s made as a whole.

@aaronlandry3934

Жыл бұрын

Idubbbz has clearly developed Alzheimer’s in his elderly age

@LukeWeiner1

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t take away from the fact that idubbbz was literally the spokesperson for a word that was uttered as black ppl were lynched, raped, etc.

@tedtheodore5715

Жыл бұрын

But when it happens to a dude nobody gives a shit xd

@keemstarkreamstar7069

Жыл бұрын

@@LukeWeiner1 Words aren’t magic. Saying the word that was used during these events doesn’t make them happen again. The problem with slurs isn’t that they were historically used to demean people, its that they can amplify malicious messages towards these groups. If we operated on the basis that anything associated with something bad in the past is always bad, than environmentalism and wanting rights for animals is literally neo-nazism because Hitler was fond of these things. Also he wasn’t the “spokesperson” for this word.

To be fair his content cop on leafy was fair game tho, leafy’s content was horrible and far worse than his content

The Comment Section is basically Twitter. Content Cop was great and all of the people he dunked on deserved the ridicule.

@tracark2255

17 күн бұрын

I don’t agree = twitter 🤓

@Mxkwh

3 күн бұрын

@@tracark2255got him

The fact he made all of these apologies and never once apologized for that haircut, that's more insane

@hhaste

Жыл бұрын

Seriouslyy. That haircut is way more offensive than anything he has ever said

@Lymborium

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's like the only thing that reminds me of old iDubbz lmao

@markjacobson4248

Жыл бұрын

​@@hhaste let's be honest, a mullet is about as idubbz a haircut as possible.

@Necroggore

Жыл бұрын

i think it looks pretty sweet ngl

@donzolez9482

Жыл бұрын

Kinda gay to judge someone's looks, fashion nerd

Charlie spends 20 minutes explaining why someone using the N word didnt hurt him personally 😂

@lordcchancleta9579

Жыл бұрын

You do know a lot of white people do get offended for other ethnicities. Be grateful Charlie isn't one of them.

@Ethanbilski

Жыл бұрын

And it hurt you? Words hurt you?

@kid2788

Жыл бұрын

@@lordcchancleta9579 why be grateful for that? very pathetic take

@Supermunchwoman

Жыл бұрын

​ @JoshuaWysocki-qr1py when the word pushes a white superiority complex i think it would hurt most people

@kurlykayla9013

Жыл бұрын

@@Ethanbilski yes? do you not know how communication works?

At the end of the day he feels like he made a mistake and is man enough to admit that

I honestly feel like back then, idubbbz just got more and more edgy cause his community would push him and he either never stopped out of fear of losing his audience or just being desensitized

@ANationalguy

11 ай бұрын

I mean still his fault you could stop at any moment using racism for clout is kind of a poopy move

@a7x_nomadiceagle482

11 ай бұрын

@@ANationalguy I never said it was good, I’m just saying that there could be another reason than being edgy for the sake of being edgy

@ANationalguy

11 ай бұрын

@@a7x_nomadiceagle482 Don’t really care if there’s another reason, Doesn’t really change what he did

@FreePalestineF-Israel

10 ай бұрын

Or maybe it was funny.

@marcuslamont41

6 ай бұрын

grow up@@ANationalguy

To be fair, this is the most sincere and genuine apology video on the entire goddamn platform.

@ThePPQQ1

Жыл бұрын

People think the fact he doesn't actually remove the videos makes it insincere

@chickencurry420

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with that idea but I understand where it's coming from

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Yeah? Why then since he wants to disown his actions, he doesnt go out and donate all the money hes made from the old videos? Talk is cheap

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Yall are just easily satisfiable people, sort of person that belives short videos

@SM-nz9ff

Жыл бұрын

@@end.olives basically yeah...and to keep the same name associated with hate and bigotry therefore triggered all those affected....talk is cheap indeed.

I don't think he did this out of a place of obligation, he did it because it was making him uncomfortable. This apology video *was* the video he wanted to make, essentially.

@slothschewgum

Жыл бұрын

he did it because his “wife’s” boyfriend told him to*

@lobsterairsoft499

Жыл бұрын

Can't it be both? That he feels guilty for the pain he has caused, and therefore obligated to address it?

@OriNyte

Жыл бұрын

@@slothschewgum Source?

@yeyeyeyeyeyeyyeyey

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The fact he’s more critical of himself than others are of him is not surprising, it’s human. If I did something I saw as bad, I am going to be the one to carry that full burden of guilt, but anyone else will just see it as another thing

@mishaaskar

Жыл бұрын

​@@OriNyte me

Im even more convinced his girlfriend is behind all of this.

@viper7454

4 ай бұрын

Is it really so hard to accept that Ian just changed as a person that you have to pin it on a ridiculous scapegoat. Also, his wife was with him during both the keemstar and tana mongeau CC’s.

@homelessend8557

3 ай бұрын

​@@viper7454the same wife who said it was her idea for the Tana video? Then idubbz said it was all his fault for it? The same wife that stalked one guy for a few years and manipulates her audience (the same way new idubbbz fans say idubbbbz created a toxic environment) for her liking? That wife?

This feels more like a personal confession. It doesn't seem to me like the entire point was to apologize to the people, but also just to get this off his chest since it's been bothering him so long, and it's like to set the record straight for people because his old self isn't what he wants to project to the world anymore.

@macicoinc9363

Жыл бұрын

He's made about 6 videos so far where he does this, he is just repeating himself at this point

@AndoBanderino

Жыл бұрын

I just find it very weird how he wants to separate himself from his old content but also clings onto it so tightly. He's removed content cop, but all the bad unboxings which still include the hateful rhetoric he's distancing himself from is still sitting on his page untouched. The one thing I just find so weird is that in the last boxing match, we walked into the ring with a boxing coat (or whatever it's called) designed after his "I'm Gay" elf costume, which clearly is just a callback to his old videos and only panders to his old audience.

@jfoo3782

Жыл бұрын

Its kind of like kim wexler from Better call saul

@Snorlaxsnaxx

Жыл бұрын

​@macicoinc9363 I can understand why though. People don't want to let go of of their vilification of his old persona.

@jakobxr

Жыл бұрын

You can’t just decide how people perceive you. He has most definitely changed as a person, he went from a brash opinionated edge lord to a disingenuous, insecure, pussywhipped, spineless, (I could go on forever) Clinton-esque cretin. His new doc series he tried to reinvent himself with is just as lowbrow as his old content. Getting on his high horse, pretending he’s a legit filmmaker, while sneak dissing and exploiting his interviewee (daxflame, airsoftfatty). He couldn’t pin down Sam and exploit him so he resents him, hates him. Ian has shown his true colors yet he’s so stubbornly senseless he can’t see how much he’s portraying himself as someone who severely lacks in integrity and grit

An unprompted apology from an honest person is more valuable than any other apology video/statement on the internet

@fart63

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a heartfelt apology on this app before so it’s kinda crazy. I knew it wasn’t coming but I was still waiting for the “*sniff* guys….. its been so hard to make this video…”

@DaFifaKid

Жыл бұрын

unprompted?? hes been getting railed online ever since the boxing event.......this was very much prompted lmao

@yamieruki

Жыл бұрын

​@Nark Formost lmao people changed and left you behind, you do you but don't cry about others

@crashwebb4715

Жыл бұрын

@@DaFifaKid I didn't know about that

@zebbybobebby

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't unprompted. He did this because of the CC2 drama.

He is entirely missing the point of idubbbz's apology.

the fact that this video did so horribly is surprising what happened 💀

@tommygoncalves9569

5 ай бұрын

Wdym

@Captain_Insano_Shows_No_Mercy

5 ай бұрын

It has over 3 million views. What are you smoking?

@thecov3n

5 ай бұрын

@@Captain_Insano_Shows_No_Mercy I’m talking about the comments lol everyone is mad

@tommygoncalves9569

5 ай бұрын

@@thecov3n yeah ur right lmao. Moistcritixal is being biased asf bcs it’s iddubz. If anyone on the internet now was posting insensitive, racist, homophobic content, he would be gawking on a moral high ground. But for some reason it was okay for iddubz to do so? Ye he trippin

@orangeflavoredmf

5 ай бұрын

@@tommygoncalves9569 Maybe form your own thoughts instead of regurgitating someone else's. Read books and shit

this is a concerning take on someone owning up to their actions and trying to improve themselves. unless you were one of the people his jokes were directed at, you won’t get it. his content very much normalized the use of many slurs and similar things. im glad that he’s changing for the better

@lunar-_-moon

Жыл бұрын

Nah bring it back

@starriebowie

Жыл бұрын

@@lunar-_-moon ok edgelord

@chucksneedlee

Жыл бұрын

He got ass blasted into infinity after the Sam Hyde video lmao

@antheiamiya

Жыл бұрын

i don’t understand charlie for this. Like i was on yt when this stuff was popular and other people didn’t feel like it was just ‘edgy’ humor. It wasn’t *acceptable* with a lot of the people at time so for him to act like it was just because it was common just feels really weird and dishonest. people probably didn’t criticize it as much back then because it felt pointless when you’d get dogpiled or worse for pointing it out

@Mightyyy8

Жыл бұрын

​@@chucksneedlee it's the fact that he's making a strawman in the apology video rather than addressing the main criticism he's receiving, which is the froggy fresh and sam hyde situation.

I’ve never seen anyone try to debunk an apology

@Ozhull

Жыл бұрын

Very reductive take, clown

@killaghxst4874

Жыл бұрын

@@Ozhull it’s not a take it’s what he did

@Nanamin69

Жыл бұрын

"debunk" he just called it fake and garbage, which it actually is

@killaghxst4874

Жыл бұрын

@@Nanamin69 apologizing for saying the n word isn’t garbage

@abcdefzhij

Жыл бұрын

Flombiggies!

Damn dude im a huge fan of yours and i happen to be black. Its tough watching you dismiss something that was tough for me to deal with. I get where your coming from but u arent part of the groups hes hurt dude. Please have some empathy

@Animeslaya

Жыл бұрын

@@steveman751 media affects real life social aspects, while he might not have been harmed directly by ians content, the culture of bigotry he facilitated to his fans had lasting effects on others.

@nGUNNARp

Жыл бұрын

can you actually articulate why some person using the n word is tough for you to deal with? Like, is it because if they use it, it makes you think they do not respect your ancestors, and it bothers you when some internet person doesn't respect your ancestors? Or is it because you think it means he doesn't respect you, a person he's never met? Or what exactly am I missing? Or is it just a free sympathy pass that you get to use?

@zoophyy5868

Жыл бұрын

@@nGUNNARpno, it’s because he enables his fans to use this words against other people who DO get affected by it

@rf-uj5sc

Жыл бұрын

@@nGUNNARp can you articulate why the n word has been considered a racial slur towards black people for centuries? Or are you completely removing any context to that word so you can pretend its some funny internet word that has no racist intent behind it?

@yes9064

Жыл бұрын

@@steveman751 This is the problem, normalizing racism for people like you and labelling it edgy.

People need to stop apologizing for words.

never in my life did i think iDubbbz would get in drama in 2023

@p-__

Жыл бұрын

My farts are better than Charlie’s farts.

@NateMakesMusic

Жыл бұрын

I feel raw and rashed up below

@foolishgamer99

Жыл бұрын

Athen Booth

@katakuri5267

Жыл бұрын

Comment speed run

@Mcburger644

Жыл бұрын

Quite the throwback

his content definitely had a much bigger impact on kids than you think back then. The same way ishowspeed is impacting todays generation of kids.

@Dumbledouche

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluent two things can be true at the same time my guy

@edmundfredmund

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluent I was 15 when idubbz started doing content cops. Everyone in my school would watch his shit, and slurs became regular vocabulary for most in my year. Although I don't blame Ian for this, like he said in his video, there is some amount of accountability for his audience, as kids and teenagers are very impressionable. I still think most of his content was great don't get me wrong but normalizing slurs is definitely not a good thing. He obviously wasn't racist or homophobic, neither were most saying it in my school, but none the less shouldn't be said in such a casual way.

@solodolo4098

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluentyeah but by that knowledge then dont blame the internet when your kids become a disaster.

@solodolo4098

Жыл бұрын

@@Gamfluent sure they did.... then stop comparing your lifestyle to others then.

@danielcristianescobar8157

Жыл бұрын

It really didn’t. Charlie is 100% right. Toxic people there were there because they were toxic. He wasn’t nearly close to what ishowspeed does today.

the people in the comments are defending the new idubbbz who literally pissed and shit himself over sam hyde possibly coming to his event

@Jzit-Animations

18 сағат бұрын

i was going to agree bro but your profile picture

I don't get the backlash charlie is getting in the comments. His main point is just justifying the need for criticism in general. Other than that he's agreeing with Ian just downplaying the severity of his actions

Charlie really underestimates how much of an effect iddubbz had on the online community

@gabriellelister7669

Жыл бұрын

Not even just online you couldn’t present any type of fruity w/ out hearing “what are you fuckin gay” from other kids in school 😭 and I watched him too 💀

@JackTheBunny

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabriellelister7669sounds like good times

@WrangleMcDangle

Жыл бұрын

@@gabriellelister7669 yeah it's funny to say that and still is

@logosrule

Жыл бұрын

I think you overestimate. People have been vehemently offensive in the most vile ways for over a decade before idubbz showed up. They never slowed down or ramped up just because another edgy youtuber showed up. They simply took that as a place where their edgy humor was welcome. He didn't create any new edglords. He just gave them another place to be edgy.

@gabriellelister7669

Жыл бұрын

@@WrangleMcDangle it’s cool when it’s in a group who’s cool w/ it. Going up to a stranger cause you think they’re gay and saying that is not funny. That’s being a dick. There’s a diff.

With all due respect Charlie, I don't think Ian was worried he hurt folks like you and me with his "former catchphrase".

@buddy3852

Жыл бұрын

How can anybody seriously listen to this group of twitch streamers and think "These people are intelligent, I plan to listen to them!"

@showoofity50

Жыл бұрын

or hes worried youtube no longer will be profitable if his image is that of his "former"

@metaltrombone549

Жыл бұрын

@@buddy3852 Yeah none of them seem too sharp

@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153

Жыл бұрын

The world would be better off if people tossed away the shackles of allowing words to hurt them, and that’s a fact.

@keanukendrick6599

Жыл бұрын

@@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153just like the shackles that held the slaves arms back in the day huh?

When tf did everyone become so damn soft?

@Nolan-Boi

2 ай бұрын

@@idvn08 imagine proving my point while thinking “damn, I’m eating rn”

@Nolan-Boi

2 ай бұрын

@@idvn08 I don’t have empathy for people who get offended by obvious jokes coming from a guy who does things like run around in a ridiculous green body suit, eat peaches off the sewer floor, and jump into wheelchairs from truckbeds. If you do, that’s your problem.

@lathe449

2 ай бұрын

@@Nolan-Boinah for real though why is everyone so soft? Nobody and I mean absolutely no one was complaining about his content in 2015-2017. Everyone just wants to be self righteous to inflate their ego these days and the top comments on this video all prove that. It’s like how twitter tried to cancel Sean Connery after he died it’s just embarrassing.

@Champlo_0

2 ай бұрын

Oh it’s mr tough guy over here. Everyone look! It’s strong billy. I’m sure “Nolan” has been affected by this in some way

@Hawkem68

2 ай бұрын

@@Nolan-Boilol that’s a solid take

Bro I can’t even fathom how blind you were to this issue. Chronically online and this shows you don’t socialize enough

@sharkattack6157

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I guess this is what happens to your brain when you stay in Florida too long.

Regardless of the side of an issue you're on, expressing regret for your past is totally normal. Power to him for seeing something he doesn't like about himself, and deciding to change.

@theolympiyn8670

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k huh?

@CultishLamb

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k what are you on?

@SSelkie3

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k ...what

@PeruvianPotato

Жыл бұрын

​@Puzzle Pottage This and the fact he was 27 when he was in his heydays

@Meta9871

Жыл бұрын

@@CultishLamb took me exactly 5 seconds to google it, he's not wrong

I’ll miss the food reviews in the sewer the most.

@theofficialrafff

Жыл бұрын

He confirmed he’ll still be doing them in the pinned comment of his apology I’m pretty sure

@Keurgui1

Жыл бұрын

YOU BITE THE PEACH THE PEACH BITES BACK

@nothorren

Жыл бұрын

@@Keurgui1 THE PICKLES

@ripred

Жыл бұрын

@@Keurgui1 lmaoo

@danteshollowedgrounds

Жыл бұрын

Haha classic.

If you're offended by iDubbbz, just wait until you discover stand-up comedy.

Bro lived long enough to be come the villan

@chadbrad8100

Ай бұрын

doubt that

this is like your friend apologizing to you about something and then someone who had nothing to do with the situation completely ignoring your feelings and being like “no no don’t apologize to them you should keep doing what ur doing!!!”

@77768

Жыл бұрын

yeah when he said it was “just edgy” about racism normalization. Hate on all groups that come with a slur I had to check the video again… am I really watching charlie react to idubz apology?

@jondavis3427

Жыл бұрын

Shows how toxic Charlie is

@plep3718

Жыл бұрын

yeah, except your friend isn't even apologising to you, they're apologising to the people that actually were affected and you butt in to say nah its all good

@doomedallweare5014

Жыл бұрын

@@77768 and what about the content of idubbbz was normalization of racism? his point was people give words too much power. ironcally those bitching about using the n-word without context were the first using in a racist hateful way like Tana . you can think it's wrong to use the word but don't pretend it's the same as using to a black person to insult them based on their race or use it on all people.

@77768

Жыл бұрын

@@doomedallweare5014 read what you said again… you’re contradicting yourself. If you’re a racist just own up to that don’t try to compare something bad to something ungodly & be like “see in contrast it’s not that bad”. That’s disgusting that you have to take it that far to justify it. The n word is above all a derogatory term with a dark history behind it. It’s bad as it is. it’s not “just a word”

My perspective is this: I don’t think idubbbz should apologize for criticizing other creators, but I think it’s good that he’s apologizing for HOW he did it.

@sdnmkhn

Жыл бұрын

Yuppp. He even says in the video: "I still don't like you guys" to all the content cop subjects

@flavoredrice176

Жыл бұрын

The way he did it wasn't wrong. He had nothing to apologize for.

@yetube6047

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I don’t think Idubbz was apologizing for criticizing people though.

@user-jp3bu6cx9q

Жыл бұрын

This!

@simonfredheim9581

Жыл бұрын

The way he did it wasn't even bad. Ian is saying that he made himself seem better than everyone else but like Charlie pointed out he never actually gave that impression.

He criticised people who deserved criticism.

Ppl don't realize what an abusive relationship is

Things don't need to be huge, massive, unforgiviable problems for people to apologise for them.

@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe

Жыл бұрын

except for when they're bad things like you know telling people that saying slurs is okay

@cookiesncream9158

Жыл бұрын

Sure but let’s not act like racism *isn’t* a huge problem. Like yeah, no one’s getting killed from him saying the n-word and telling his audience that it’s okay for them to as well, but it does create an unsafe and unwelcome environment for black people on the platform, and in turn, in real life as well, and that issue shouldn’t be trivialized.

@senopai.8377

Жыл бұрын

@@cookiesncream9158 agree with this 100%, but i think the og comment was just countering how charlie started the video. like when he said “ian wasn’t killing puppies” like obviously but that doesn’t mean he can’t apologize for it. ykwim? i don’t think og comment was saying racism isn’t a big problem (because it definitely is) they were just countering charlie’s argument

@cookiesncream9158

Жыл бұрын

@@senopai.8377 yeah yeah fs fs, I wasn’t tryna imply that og doesn’t see racism as a huge issue, I agree with everything they said, I just thought it was worth mentioning because that it could definitely be read that way.

@senopai.8377

Жыл бұрын

@@cookiesncream9158 oh oki !! ❤️

At the end of the day Charlie is still a Florida man

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

not an excuse

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

@ieatalot ok? but that's giving white men leeway to act like they can't control them being dumb and ignorant

@ruminationstation4200

Жыл бұрын

​@ieatalot idk, Ian seems pretty ok (now). It shouldn't have taken a grown man to be on the receiving end to get it, but at least he gets it now. That seems to be miles ahead of Charlie

@BloodInTheStrawberries

Жыл бұрын

​@@arshiiia Who said it was-? You've missed the joke here, Florida is known for being bigoted atm. That's the point.

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

@@BloodInTheStrawberries ok my bad

these comments are top tier. the debunking of an apology that wasn’t for you is a strange take…

Ive never been so disapointed by a youtube comment section, what happened?

@BillyMurray-hw2vz

8 ай бұрын

Charlie's fans are all soft

@Nzappreciator110

7 ай бұрын

​@@BillyMurray-hw2vzretarded reddit leftoids

@neev130

7 ай бұрын

Woke

@LassetUnsSpielen

7 ай бұрын

Ask people living in 2016 if they think Ian is racist. roughly 50% would say yes and 50% would say no. matter of fact: even if somebody is a racist, they could still have a good idea, completely unrelated to that whole racism-thing question: are you allowed to benefit from that idea?

@BillyMurray-hw2vz

7 ай бұрын

@@LassetUnsSpielen It was more like 80-20, but now YT has full sjw mode

i promise if you ever met an average preteen idubbbz fan in 2016, you wouldn't say his content/impact wasn't damaging LOL

@cksupreme

Жыл бұрын

Those kids would've acted like that regardless of whether or not they consumed Idubbz's content, m8. You're making the "video games cause violence" argument here.

@Asmodeuslvr

Жыл бұрын

@@cksupreme Normalization of using slurs and spouting casual bigotry leads to negative impacts of the community directly affected historically by said slurs and bigotry.

@Scrinklins

Жыл бұрын

Idubbbz didn’t make them. They’re the kids that were calling you a f** in cod game chat in 2010 why are y’all acting like someone in 2016 created that it’s just internet culture by 2016 it was dying

@TheSebi99p

Жыл бұрын

@@Asmodeuslvr what a load of horseshit

@river-sama7681

Жыл бұрын

@@cksupreme not remotely the same dude. or are you trying to argue that young children and teenagers will not emulate what they see their role models doing? like is that seriously what you're trying to imply? because one of the most basic things to understand about kids is that they are extremely impressionable.

Just putting in my 2 cents about Charlie's "I don't think it harmed anyone" comment. As someone who had to deal with white friends I was in school with getting too comfortable with throwing N-bombs after I naively gave the pass to them, then throwing the idubbbz "either all of it's okay or none of it's okay" quote when I told them that I'm no longer comfortable with incessant their use of the N-word, I wish he hadn't made those videos, even as a fan of his back in that day. The flagrant crossing of my boundaries by classmates was certainly not helped by the culture generated by his content.

@DannyDeVitois79

Жыл бұрын

Your experience is not irrelevant…. Idubbbz did not have anything to do with a couple dipshit white kids you happened to be around using that word….. period…… maybe reconsider the next time YOU tell people it’s okay to say that around you….. It’s called the bell curve of humanity,,,, most people of ANY NATIONALITY suck….

@yamama98

Жыл бұрын

Ugh I can’t stand that quote anymore ive heard it so many times

@BigReddthehebrew

Жыл бұрын

That was your dumb self for allowing them to disrespect you not Idubbz fault

@st8vie282

Жыл бұрын

The point is should he really be responsible for the actions of others it’s obvious his videos where constructed in the confides of satire and irony as is most comedy it’s not like he specifically told people to say it or promote it

@humuhumu776

Жыл бұрын

It really is all okay or none of it is. Your race is the same as all others

So surprised chrlies comment section thinks this way. I havent seen this in any other one. L

@anonymoose2474

6 ай бұрын

It's brigaded for sure

old idubbz was just his humiliation ritual lol

I know this is corny AF but it takes a lot more guts to be that sincere and humble than to be a trashy edgelord

@DylanDrinksWater

Жыл бұрын

It's not corny, it's true Showing vulnerability is way cooler than hiding behind a shell of edginess and hate

@peacemaster8117

Жыл бұрын

@@DylanDrinksWater Pussying out of making harmless jokes isn't cool.

@titanium_rocket1505

Жыл бұрын

Frfr he has my respect for that

@titanium_rocket1505

Жыл бұрын

@@peacemaster8117 except they’re not harmless. Saying slurs is hurtful to a lot of people

@evolalienn

Жыл бұрын

@@peacemaster8117“harmless” TO YOU That doesn’t mean funny or “harmless” to everyone.

Of course you don’t see the scope of the damage Idubbz had because you’re not on the receiving end.

@infoscrolls

Жыл бұрын

uhh uhh muh mean words

@GarbyBoi

Жыл бұрын

i dont really get what's going on in the comment section here. this was barely an appology it was a way to fight back the people who say they miss the old iddubz, many people from the 2015 crew like maxmofoe and chad and many others like ksi or even pewdiepie slowly changed their content in different ways without having to shit on their old fans (who also were young and edgy and also might've grown out of it). You dont need to dedicated 2-3 videoes and go podcast after podcast to appologies for being edgy 8 to 9 years ago when everyone else was. you dont see all of the 2016 edgelords saying they'll never forgive themselves for being edgy 8 years ago. be realistic.

@vindikaktus

Жыл бұрын

@@infoscrolls Preteen youtube commenter doesn't think bigotry is real. More news at 11.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's how perspectives work? It's why empathy exists to help us understand each other in ways some might not have personally experienced but we can still understand each other and try to make some positive change for those who are affected negatively

@bobafett4452

Жыл бұрын

​@@vindikaktus cope

I don't see why he feels shame about content cop. All the subjects I'm aware of were people genuinely worthy of heavy criticism, especially keemstar. It's alright to make valid points in an abrasive manner.

@DragonnRider

5 ай бұрын

the way he went about doing was far from optimal lol

@homelessend8557

3 ай бұрын

​@@DragonnRiderman, if only they told penn and teller to not do the bullshit series, then we would have less terrorists nowadays

This is something I think about frequently, from being an idubbz middle schooler I’m like damn, this shits really gonna catch up to him

@dreamer5687

Жыл бұрын

growing up and realizing you were a internet bully and casually dropping hurtful slurs? was going to catch up to him? duh

@iamsmarterthanyou

9 ай бұрын

People age poorly.

Ain't no way this is real 💀

@flaqiy

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean

@dylanr4854

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean

@garythesnail1705

Жыл бұрын

Right.. he missed w this shit

Honestly I think if he wants to apologize for something he regrets, there’s nothing wrong with that.

@grantconnolly4628

Жыл бұрын

I agree for sure taking acountability and appologizing is important. I just feel he's looking at everything with rose tinted glasses. The part about slurs, and hate speech 1000% agree on how he's appologizing for it. However take that away and much of the content disecting keemstar and other really bad actors, nothin wrong with that. At the end of the day it is his call and I think people throwing a hissy fit over it are stupid, but I think he is over correcting hard

@williamburns3823

Жыл бұрын

Hate speech is just speech

@emelgizzybruh2058

Жыл бұрын

@@grantconnolly4628that’s what I’m saying, and you just see his new fans saying that the content cops were unnecessary when it objectively made the site better. People just can’t appreciate what he did at the time anymore. Hate the double slit catchphrase tho made him sound like an idiot

@postverifiedlifestyle

Жыл бұрын

@@emelgizzybruh2058 “objectively made the site better” i don’t think you know what objectively means brother

@sidcitris4162

Жыл бұрын

It feels like he's going through a 12 step program and this is one of the steps, apologizing for past mistakes

people forget to think it, dream it and do it

Charlie there is no situation, Idubbz feels upset with how his past content affected people and feels an apology is needed. No one forced him into this apology, he simply grew as a person and no longer views 2016 edgelord "comedy" as...well... comedy. He had quite a sad interaction with a trans fan of his that assumed Idubbz hated them, this was one of the moments Ian said opened his eyes to the damage his past content was doing to people. Jeez Charlie I usually find in agreement with you but not on this one bud, just too tone deaf this take is.

IDubbbz making an apology while looking like an 80s movie cop was pretty funny lmao.

@captainforrix956

Жыл бұрын

Dude is looking kinda rough, like a cross between a deep-Appalachian redneck and your average overnight gas station clerk

@bluz1864

Жыл бұрын

Kurtis Connor twin

@megadouche

Жыл бұрын

​@@bluz1864 Yuh

@JCTrev13

Жыл бұрын

80's GAY PORN movie cop.

@tsurie6634

Жыл бұрын

Hey, the moviecop community is now seriously hurt. Please dont make fun of them. I demand an apology.

Ok, but counterpoint: as a former iDubbz viewer, I felt 0% vilified by his apology. I didn't feel like he was calling me out, nor accusing me of anything. I feel like I, much like he, grew up and learned what was okay and what was too far. I can't speak on his apology because he isn't apologizing to me. But when he says that he fostered a toxic community (whether intentionally or not) and that he put a megaphone before some toxic-ass takes and amplified them, I don't feel like he's being insecure or like he's a slave to his audience or like it has anything to do with me.

@ruminationstation4200

Жыл бұрын

The only people he vilified are people who are real world villains. They are at the end of the day keyboard bullies. Anyone who feels offended by it is telling on themselves

@cocaineinmyvein

Жыл бұрын

Lmao "grew up". This dude is in his 30s, and the content we're talking about was 6-7 years ago.

@Humongous_Hongonggolongus

Жыл бұрын

@@cocaineinmyvein I don't wanna defend Ian, but I'd tell you the same thing that anyone else will tell you. Neither I, you nor anyone else for that matter is the same after 5 years, we change our worldviews, opinions and beliefs rather fast, because we always learn from our mistakes and successes my guy.

@chickennoodlesoup3301

Жыл бұрын

@@Humongous_Hongonggolongus None of those matters, because guess what? there are plenty of people who didn't or have never used slurs. So, for you to act like this is a mistake, or act that he's some recovering alcoholic as if being a bigot isn't the easiest thing to avoid, is laughable and almost embarrassing.

@Humongous_Hongonggolongus

Жыл бұрын

@@chickennoodlesoup3301 he was clearly ironically using those slurs my dude. Tell me oh infallible one, have you not done something that you regret or cringe at, if you think about your past self?

Idubbz is the only person I actually believe has changed.

He feels so bad but yet those videos are still up

iDubbbz's apology is the first youtube apology that comes from actual regret, which i respect

@catbeans4685

Жыл бұрын

So he should stop profiting from those videos

@DeterminismisFreedom

Жыл бұрын

🧐Ain't no way he said content cop was based on 'lackluster criticisms'! That's what relationships do to people. Beware!

@superscatman4236

Жыл бұрын

@@catbeans4685 He literally unlisted them.

@boi2323

Жыл бұрын

his apology just comes from the gaslighting from his wife. she’s the puppet master now

@cuhlainnslane1564

Жыл бұрын

this isnt regret, its guilt. Someone in his life, whom he cares for deeply it seems, is making him feel massively guilty over this.

If someone wants to apologize for something they did at one point and now they deem that thing as a bad thing.. let them apologize. The apology could just be them making amends and clearing their own mind.

@user-fz3sz2dj4r

Жыл бұрын

Nah, he just realized he can't make money on it anymore. In the proper context, his content was fine.

@andyabreu5627

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fz3sz2dj4r not even in 2014 context was it totally fine. he’s always been seen as edgy, even he knows that

@Gnsd45

Жыл бұрын

except the apology isnt about all that, question is, why you care so much about a dudes reaction to someones apologies when you dont know shit about the context of that situation?

@thisisAshtar2

Жыл бұрын

he did he never said he couldnt he just said it feels idiotic he cannot stop him for apologizing his opinion is on the apology itself 🤦🏼‍♀️

@rdogindahouse

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fz3sz2dj4r plus that shit was funny asf

“it’s just shock humor” and why is it shocking charlie? why does a “edgy” word with a historic past create shock? this is so embarrassing, it kinda feels like a tattletale

I feel like this isn’t a real thing and this is some sort of bad dream because I have never seen someone not accept an apology because they didn’t think the apology was needed

@deftd0ll99

11 ай бұрын

you've never once in your life said "sorry", then someone told you that you don't need to apologize? I thought that was something everyone goes thru at least once ya know

@pedroguzman8036

8 ай бұрын

There are not needed apologies, and he didn't reject the apology, just said he didn't think it was necessary

@quEEnbItch999

8 ай бұрын

@deftd0ll99 that's when the apology's meant for YOU smartypants, why'd a rando jump in out of nowhere n be like "no u don't need to apologise to him" when they're not even being spoken to...

You can be hurtful and cause damage even if that wasn't your intention.

@crosshavoc1387

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it doesn’t matter if it wasn’t your intention.

@tylersargent3307

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 it does matter thou. If I don’t mean to hit someone with my car, I still killed someone if they died. Words matter and dubz alone helped cause a new generation of asshats just like leafy

@joshuakohn4408

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 To say it doesn't matter at all is crazy but it's a huge difference that is for sure

@hwowwhwoo

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 ok, so you can drive your car on the sidewalk with the intent of getting to work a little faster, the people you mowed down on the way won't matter because turning them into a series of stains on the concrete wasn't something you intended on doing my point is that your actions, whether they be casual bigotry or vehicular manslaughter, have consequences regardless of intent

@kagemarushun7378

Жыл бұрын

​@@hwowwhwooyour analogy is invalid. Drivin on a sidewalk is illegal and you will hit someone regardless. Making content about people being useless, Idiots or generally being annoying is not something that bad if at all.

Ive gotta say its shocking to me that a man can scream the n word in someone's face, apologise for it 7 years later and somehow its the apology that people consider "controversial"

@christhomas3035

Жыл бұрын

Tana had called him out for using the n word after she ahead used it 10 billion times herself so idubbbz said what he said he wasn’t “screaming the n word” in anyone’s face lmao

@pkpokeman

Жыл бұрын

@@christhomas3035 brother you obviously didn't watch enough of his content, he had full videos defending the use of the n-word

@pokeystar101

Жыл бұрын

Must of watch it with eyes closed

@Notlordstark

Жыл бұрын

And even Charlie, who usually has decent takes on this stuff, then tells us that it wasn’t hurtful or hateful for him to say the n-word. Extremely rare Charlie L

@andydelatorre4290

Жыл бұрын

@@Notlordstark context always matters, granted, not a nice word but he never used it in a harmful matter compared to Tana. Not defending it but context always matters.

I'm a woman who likes idubbbz's content, and I have liked it since that time. I had never noticed that his fanbase was so bizarrely misogynistic until the Anisa thing started, it was shocking to me that he had to talk about it to his fans and tell them that sex work is fine (That's the situation I'm referencing here). Because before that I was just like you, thinking there was no harm being done, he was just being edgy and everybody understands that, right? Turns out he was breeding a very specific type of harmful human being who were his fans and even though I was his fan too, those people didn't even see me as a person. And all those fans assumed Ian was a racist, a mispogynist and a homophobe for real, not just "ironically", that's super dangerous. So yes the apology was very much justified and I am so glad he made it because I was always a fan and it's good to know that he is not a horrible person and has grew as a person.

@asmrtpop2676

11 ай бұрын

I’m a female-born trans, bi, and autistic person who used to watch his content. My gf of the time would send me videos of his. The Tana video is where I drew the line. His defense of slurs made zero sense to me. Casual use of slurs was something I noticed people would act like wouldn’t hurt me but it was always a slippery slope to people then voting literally against my basic human rights. Or degrading me, assaulting me, kicking me out of my household. It was never just a word.

@amanda-uw3un

11 ай бұрын

@@asmrtpop2676 yeah, I think I don't really have the same relationship with slurs as people who are American or have english as a first language (idk if that is your case but I'm assuming so). So when I watched that video it did seem like just edge to me, I didn't know how slurs are actually a big big deal in English. In my language (portuguese) we have very bad words but they don't have that weight, we don't really have completely forbidden words and usually those offensive words end up getting reivindicated by the group whose offense was directed to and they lose their strenght. Of course based on context you can absolutely use them in a very offensive way but there is no such thing as a "slur" the way you guys have. So now I get that that was in very bad taste but at the time I just interpreted the way I do in my language. I do completely believe he sees and understands the damage he did then, honestly, I appreciate it a lot. I'm also queer btw ^^

@amanda-uw3un

11 ай бұрын

just to make it clear I think you were right in drawing the line

@spriterefreshed935

11 ай бұрын

@@asmrtpop2676 Slurs are just words. They've been used in comedy all the time. I think if someone already has intent to hate others they will no matter what.

@RealNick04

9 ай бұрын

Not everyone liked Anisa prior to the OF controversy in 2020.

Imagine saying someone didn't have to apologize for racism

@lufa7886

Жыл бұрын

what racism?

@Versicolor1tarantula

Жыл бұрын

Multiple. There are multiple times idubbbz has said racist shit.

@Versicolor1tarantula

Жыл бұрын

There are literal compilation videos about it

@lufa7886

Жыл бұрын

@@Versicolor1tarantula there’s no way you’re not a fucking bot😂

@heroinabuser5980

Ай бұрын

@@Versicolor1tarantuladoes that make him racist? That would imply he specifically thinks a certain race is below another which there is no evidence of.

Critikal was so scared of talking about Chris being trans yet he seems very open about this topic..

@duckhugger7692

Жыл бұрын

Him and sunnyv2 are friends thats why😭

@NotimetoVero

Жыл бұрын

@@duckhugger7692 yo wtf I did not know that. How slimy.

@_melodyx

Жыл бұрын

​@@duckhugger7692ugh gross. will not regret unsubbing from charlie. cant even tell what his values stand behind the camera but i can tell he is very ignorant

@skellish

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm slowly learning that Charlie is not quite the person I thought he was... Him not willing to be critical of bigotry/not realizing the impact even "casual" bigotry can have feels a little bit telling. Maybe it's him not wanting to reflect on himself/feeling vilified for having enjoyed said content in the past, I'm not sure, I obviously don't know how Charlie thinks, I don't know the man. But regardless I don't think I can continue to support him if he can't see why someone would want to apologize for doing obviously harmful things.

@jason59k55

Жыл бұрын

@@skellish this mentality is common among many people including youtubers. even mlk addressed these kinds of people, their mentality, and impact in his letter on what he called them: the white moderate.

Charlie is acting like this apology video was made directly for him lol

@WorldJustice5

Жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair. He did put Situation in the title. But lol

@Homer92

Жыл бұрын

I think this is striking a little close to home for Charlie. This is a commentary channel, not that different from what content cop was but less produced

@laurax1179

Жыл бұрын

@@Homer92 yeah it does feel like that might be why Charlie is having this defensive sort of response

@britann9539

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think this must be hitting a little close to home for Charlie... It sounds like - I could be wrong. - he's almost defending himself in some way

@koidayo

Жыл бұрын

@@Homer92 you really need to stop projecting your thoughts on people you don't know besides what they post on the internet.

is this comment section being dominated by chatgpt bots?

No one was trying to go after him. He just apologized and changed cause he regretted it. This is genuine.

@jujuteuxOfficial

Жыл бұрын

he grew a small and petty person, he regressed

@uavdoug985

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@uavdoug985

Жыл бұрын

@@jujuteuxOfficial facts

@pierluigiadreani2159

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I am sure that his business and his girlfriend have nothing to do with it.

@Supreme_Lobster

Жыл бұрын

I think he is genuinely confused

I think idubbz genuinely struggles with his actions in the past especially when its so well documented. Its like of every regretful thing you dod as a child is recorded, you are famous for it and made a living of it. I feel like the guilt for me would eat me up inside. This apology video was a way for idubbz to give himself closure from the past.

@Biggleboggles

Жыл бұрын

Which was the point o his video, and apology. Charlie didn’t seem to like that

@JTestForTruth

Жыл бұрын

It's not that complex though. If he genuinely feels this bad, quit the space. If you climbed to the top of a shoe-production company by quite literally sabotaging other shoe industries, the only way you could possibly "absolve" yourself of this is to remove yourself from the space. You can't sit on your throne at the top and act like anyone who dares act as you acted to get where you were is now somehow morally reprehensible and use your growth as an excuse to prevent others from doing what you did. It's an absurd ideology.

@innsaanitty

Жыл бұрын

@@Biggleboggles I swear charlie is way off target with this one. idubbbz clearly mentions that he realises it was foolish of him to think he had zero responsibility for the indirect consequences of his edgelord content, leaving it upto the teen audiences to be responsible about not using his content to validate their bigoted views. like it's genuinely admirable that he takes responsibility and apologises publicly like this and then charlie is all "technically you didn't have to" 😂

@susfringgaming4018

Жыл бұрын

He's also probably scared that since he's only 30 this stuff will remain online forever so I'd he ever becomes mainstream popular again, those clips of him saying the N word will always haunt him, so I feel like he is pre-emptively addressing those , especially with creator clash becoming more and more popular, at some point he was going to have to face the music

@Biggleboggles

Жыл бұрын

@@innsaanitty lol

I miss the old idubbbz. It was a better day. As much as i enjoy this new guy, moist has nothing on idubbbz.

man.. the guy was talking about how he feels. nobody should be allowed to tell if the way he feels about his past is right or wrong

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Thats a bunch of nonsense. People cant have opnions?

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Seem like every comment supporting idubbbz is made by children or twinks

@ughust

Жыл бұрын

@@end.olives Charlie can have an opinion but it genuinely holds no weight or value to Ian's own experiences. Like another commenter said, Ian's video feels like a confession and an honest show of remorse. There's nothing to be criticized here, to be honest, that's why Charlie's video seems off. There's not an opinion to be had over Ian's own feelings over his own past. They are his feelings?

@popninja8658

Жыл бұрын

The way he feels about his past is very, very wrong.

@tiagobonella1727

Жыл бұрын

@@end.olives sure, you can have opinions.. but this situation was so personal. it is not like someone else can understand his feelings better than him

Of all the things I would have expected Idubbbz to get in trouble for, apologizing is not one of them.

@lanarkgrammersucks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but at the same time I think he's being completely unfair to himself, it's like watching a friend talking shit about themselves and you seeing the situation feel the need to remind them than they're nowhere near as bad as they're explaining themselves as. It's great that he's trying to improve but he isn't as bad a human as he made himself out to be, in my opinion.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@lanarkgrammersucks yea Idubbbz néw video applies to him more now than it did in the past

@MachinaOwl

Жыл бұрын

@@lanarkgrammersucks He's not self loathing. He's calling himself out for his crappy behavior. This is nowhere near the same thing as seeing someone beat themselves up for no reason.

@lanarkgrammersucks

Жыл бұрын

@@MachinaOwl I very much disagree.

@JohnDoe-ks9xx

Жыл бұрын

​@@MachinaOwl Any therapist will tell you what he is doing is nothing but a hindrance on self growth. Dwelling on the past and trying to explain it does nothing but make you keep thinking about it. It 100% would have been better to just ignore everything and keep uploading what he wanted to upload. So rather than a smooth transition to who he is now he made the whole transition a nightmare of waring factions in the comments of every video he posts.

I think I’m this case he 100% needed to acknowledge it I’ve been wondering about his stance on his old shit for years

It doesnt seem like that big of a deal when it didnt impact you.

He didn't make an apology to satisfy some angry mob, no one was trying to cancel him. He did it because he knew it would get rid of the type of audience he doesn't want around anymore and I fucking get it.

@poopyscoopy6984

Жыл бұрын

Not even a week ago he was in drama for fucking over another youtuber and it brought up his past.😊😅

@fatlizard_

Жыл бұрын

@@poopyscoopy6984 to be fair, they had it coming. this kind of shit was probably hanging over Ian's head for a long time and that dragged all of it back to the surface and he felt like he HAD to get it off his chest.

@lisztresurrected9438

Жыл бұрын

He did it because his wife and the other drama he's involved with, where he is acting objectively terrible and two faced.

@eddievanhorn5497

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and I think that his apology is a perfect example of how the right's idea of "cancel culture" is BS. Ian wants to change and be better, and most people are giving him the space to. The only people at his neck are the ones who he left behind as he grew and are terrified by the thought that he could be right about being wrong.

@ArchonCommando

Жыл бұрын

He did it because his channel is practically dead and he needed some more publicity for his fighting events going forward.

Rare Charlie L. He missed the whole point of the video. Doesnt matter if it was coming from a racist place or not his words encouraged hatred. I dont think he resents his audience at all. I think he wishs he hadnt cultivated a group of people who think edgelord racism=funny not just his community because i do believe most of his viewers arent racist. Also a lot of the comments on his video are sharing their stories of how his content effected them. I would go read those if you want to see how the people affected feel.

@dannyferrary666

Жыл бұрын

Idubbz is getting karma. He only apologized to stop the harassment. He hurt a lot of people with his slurs.

The amt of ppl crying in this comment section gives me little faith in humanity

If that's how iDubbbz truly feel, then he has every right to apologize. And it's up to the community that would be affected by his content who can truly accept or reject his apology. At the end of the day, the apology video is only for those who was negatively affected by his old content.

@feefeedee9865

Жыл бұрын

He’s just in damage control mode from banning froggy. This is how he’s furthering his justification for it. Nothing he said was that bad, he never called someone a slur. He literally only said the words to make fun of people who used them, or in a context where he was saying the words just to point out they shouldn’t have any power over people, and all words are okay to use, and only hateful intent is bad

@femboyfoxfurry2603

Жыл бұрын

@@feefeedee9865 you gotta be brain dead to think all this is just a distraction from froggy 😭

@feefeedee9865

Жыл бұрын

@@femboyfoxfurry2603 the timing of the apology was. He’s been backpedaling for years now. Ever since he married that one girl and took her last name, he’s been a broken man. Just a virgin who got trapped by a snake - sadly

@cynicat74

Жыл бұрын

If you were "negatively affected by his old content", you don't belong on the Internet.

@mrcool1519

Жыл бұрын

I'm brown, I use edgy humor all the time...what now cuck?

If you're able to cringe at your past self, that means you've grown. That's a good thing.

@nickbrowning3270

Жыл бұрын

Only a Sith deals in absolutes

@brunemmm

Жыл бұрын

@@nickbrowning3270 bro thinks hes a sith lord💀

@pricklypear3625

Жыл бұрын

No, it means you've changed. That doesn't necessarily mean "grown".

@rottensteak508

Жыл бұрын

When I cringe at my past self I wonder if I’ll always be cringey, just growing to recognize the past and not noticing the present, which is terrifying

@pigboy2402

Жыл бұрын

@@brunemmm it's a joke goofball

Either did something wrong or got a new girlfriend

He shit on ricegum for poking fun at a rape victim, and pushing clout on homeless people for views. He shit on tana for flagrantly using the n word, then turning around and acting like its some kind of irredeemable offense, then condemning others to have their legs broken and their livelyhood revoked for doing the same thing she did. He was never in the wrong. He pointed out unbelievable hypocrisy in the KZread system. Now he's apologizing for it. It's pathetic. He's not a pioneer. He's a sad excuse for a has been.

@gamingyoshi2280

15 сағат бұрын

no, hes just changed over the years , people change bro, if u look back 5 years i can promise u u will hate the person who u were

I agree with the idea that he doesn't *have* to apologise for the content he created 7 years ago, but I believe if he *wants* to apologise for it then he should be allowed to. If he genuinely feels bad for the impact he had on people then he has every right to apologise. In my eyes he didn't make this decision to satisfy his audience, he did it for himself

@NinjaFresh

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but it is gay and cringe. If he was really sorry he'd just move past it, but no he must prostrate himself on the alter of societal mainstream wokeness. Now he has his good boy points and morons lap it up.

@cobblecola

Жыл бұрын

@Bozo Central no the point that charlie made was that the apology was unneeded and that idubbz is over exaggerating the effect he had on people back in the day (which is not true)

@kazujaja

Жыл бұрын

Definitely agree that Ian genuinely did this for himself, (which is a good thing)

@Kimmaline

Жыл бұрын

Charlie legit said that Ian spammed slurs, and that isn't hurtful. Huh? I agree that Dubbz took down some good people with ContentCop, but having been the target of a lot of targeted harassment I can get why he feels like he does. Watching what his audience has done to his wife? Holy shit.

@cookiesncream9158

Жыл бұрын

I mean I don’t have trouble comprehending the idea that he might have also done this to make it clear to the racists who already subscribe to him, and the future ones who may watch is older videos to denounce their ideology for the sake of the actual people who have to suffer because of them? I get what you’re saying but at the end of the day, his guilt for his past will never compare to the abuse marginalized have had to and will have to face, and that he’s spent his career promoting, and it’s tone deaf if you can’t see how anyone but he can benefit from his platformed apology for and denouncing of bigoted ideology.

this apology feels like a good closure for idubbbz and his past. if he felt this video was necessary then so be it.

@xqzqcv7950

Жыл бұрын

He should have explored his feelings of Imposter syndrome with a licensed professional, not trauma dump on the internet what a evil monster!?! he used to be and how everything he used to make was EVUL*tm* ontologically. And pretty much saying the people he made videos on were like.. beyond reproach? What other take is there really

@saramwaqas

Жыл бұрын

Nah yall are just too sensitive now and need to make everyone feel like they can’t make a joke

@beter21137

Жыл бұрын

Basically, for me this video is the same as like if he would say he would stop making videos and follow other paths. This just close the iDubzz channel. And what will be next woll not be iDubbzz

@lavendersvenus

Жыл бұрын

@@saramwaqas sensitive to what? Racism?

@worldblazin4209

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. Thanks some could verbally explain what I couldnt put to words. Thank you mister/misses.

I still find it odd how this went from do you know da way to being the word of youtube

This is the only video I've seen from Charlie that I disagree with him on