Being "ironically" racist can and will attract genuine racists.

@419chris419

Жыл бұрын

And? So are you saying when a comedian jokes about certain subjects it attracts certain people? How's it the fault of the comedian?

@charlietraynor-croft6393

Жыл бұрын

But you should still be able to make jokes without being called racist, sexist, or whatever.

@nebbygetinthebag7263

Жыл бұрын

@@419chris419 no christ, Nido very clearly stated, 'Being "ironically" racist can and will attract genuine racists.' Please show me where the word 'comedian' is used and also, show me where the comedy of saying slurs is.

@benmccabe1060

Жыл бұрын

@@charlietraynor-croft6393 im with you on this but the n-word kind of crosses a line in this day and age

@hizui7904

Жыл бұрын

@@nebbygetinthebag7263 they were making an analogy...

Its really easy to pretend there was no harm done when you weren't the one being harmed

@1mclv

Жыл бұрын

Isn't Critikal gay?

@d0llst4r

Жыл бұрын

@@1mclv he’s not black tho. Black people were most affected by iddubz content. I mean, yeah he’s gay but before that he’s white and therefore wasn’t the target for the racism and bigotry. /nm

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

As a minority, no harm was done.

@Moomi_Is_Us

Жыл бұрын

@@jhonklan3794 as a minority, harm was done

@olliebearblu7783

Жыл бұрын

@@d0llst4r critikal is gay??

i think this might literally be the only video from Charlie that's at all negatively recieved

@user-do8rf3jg9r

4 ай бұрын

fr all of those mad kids

@vespine1749

4 ай бұрын

@@user-do8rf3jg9rfor every right reason

@personperson8563

4 ай бұрын

@@user-do8rf3jg9rit’s justified, if you lived in a predominantly white area during the Idubbz area getting “ironically” called slurs and the N-word behind your back was supper common. Hearing it justified using the idubbz/leafy rhetoric was also common. Straight up racism and bullying, Heavily inspired by and carried out using idubbz arguments. He now realized this and apologized for it. He realized his legacy has both directly and indirectly cause so many kids to be unironically bullied, have slurs used against them. He had also directly radicalized many kids, causing them to turn into slur chucking racist edge lords, and he deeply regrets that. Charlie’s excusing him. L take from Charlie.

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 ай бұрын

He tends to have bad takes because he goes through content too quickly

@mommyissue

3 ай бұрын

​​@@user-do8rf3jg9rno shhhtt they mad ain't no need to explain nothing to you causes I already know your ssttpid as ain't even gonna listen so whatever.😂🙄🙄😷

This is so tone deaf and I hate that you can't see the damage he's done and accept that he was wrong

@vladimirgluten781

Жыл бұрын

what damage lmfao

@user-gt7op7we8e

Жыл бұрын

Why are there so many crybabies whining about being damaged by words? It feels like I'm on Twitter.

@JayDayKay

Жыл бұрын

What damage, I’m actually curious

@theodddish1846

Жыл бұрын

What was the damage?

@mmmmongooseiii384

Жыл бұрын

The people asking “what damage” obviously didnt watch the actual apology where he talks about very real instances of damage such as his interactions with fans and the harassment to his wife

I don't think Charlie is fully grasping the impact iDubbbz content had on kids back in the day.

@miguelsalazar1059

Жыл бұрын

I did commit 79 war crimes due to his content yea, all of them were in call of duty but still

@bouldrycraft12

Жыл бұрын

Charlie’s whole point is that it’s not his fault kids watched his clearly adult content because they had no parents monitoring them anyways and idubbz made videos for older people who were supposed to understand the nuance of using the slur like how South Park is technically two white guys saying the n word but trey Parker and Matt stone shouldn’t apologize either they just don’t do it anymore which is showing their understanding.

@nono-yw3tv

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelsalazar1059 I know right? 🤣

@mxlcxlm1518

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I literally had ppl in school come up to me in school and called me racial slurs all bc of ppl like Ian, Filthy Frank and Leafy. How does he not get it?

@jaden2758

Жыл бұрын

@@mxlcxlm1518 because thats such a isolated experience and frankly i just dont believe that was the only reason why, during middle and highschool (where they were at their biggest) i had been to 4 different schools and never had that kinda stuff happen because of fans of a youtuber

When I was in middle school groups of white boys would chase me down the halls screaming “n***** f*****” because it would make me cry. Without fail. My parents and grandparents and great grandmother would sit me down and tell me stories of slavery, bigotry, misogyny, r*pe and dehumanization. That is what those words carry. I understand not all people realize this is what these words carry. So people are speaking out about it. That’s what this is about. That is the harm that was facilitated. The ignorance and the weaponization of language under the guise of apathy. I don’t mean to lecture. Im just disappointed in this take. I understand that hatred wasn’t Ian’s intention, but it is nice he is willing to take responsibility. 2016 KZread was awful for so many children of color and there was an impact. It all feels so counterproductive to undermine Ian’s apology and reflection. Him speaking on his turn to empathy is useful for people on the fence about things. It’s just disappointing to see this vid.

@OYJluv

Жыл бұрын

I respect you.

@jimmybobbyjoe

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Jesus fuck I was about to go insane seeing some of these replies. I’m a fan of Charlie but this was an absolutely shit take. I just saw a video that D’Angelo Wallace made and he did a good job of shooting down Charlie’s ignorance and reflecting on the impact that iDubbbz made on a huge generation of kids. Hearing Charlie say “you used those words for edgy shock humor,” and “you’re not a racist” takes a sledgehammer to everything that iDubbbz is apologizing for.

@sabersin7694

Жыл бұрын

That is literally the biggest load of bullshit I've heard in a while. You have never tasted true bigotry your whole life.

@nooneimportant8157

Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely the least convincing story I've ever read. 0/10

@lailaauto33

Жыл бұрын

@@nooneimportant8157 why do you say that? i am not black, but I am indigenous and people would call me slurs as a kid because they knew it affected me. I wasn't old enough to understand it completely, but I knew that those slurs were wrong and carried the stories of horrific acts my ancestors went through by colonizers. try to have some empathy

Why would you need to tell someone their apology is wrong?

@troypowers750

Жыл бұрын

To make sure it's actually genuine or serious.

@Tubeytime

Жыл бұрын

To let them know they're overthinking things that don't actually matter, hypothetically speaking.

@ivonne8068

Жыл бұрын

@@Tubeytime still an L take from Charlie tbh

@game_boyd1644

Жыл бұрын

@@troypowers750 that's not what he's doing here. He's telling idubzz that an apology not directed toward him in the first place wasn't necessary. Does that make any sense to you?

@game_boyd1644

Жыл бұрын

@@Tubeytimeso it doesn't matter that his content encouraged people to normalize the use of dehumanizing words, and that he now regrets that and wants to apologize to the people he affected for it? I genuinely don't get it. This apology wasn't meant for people who weren't affected by his content in the past. Why do you feel the need to call it out if it doesn't affect you? Unless you think you're one of the basement dwelling losers he called out?

This is the first time ever I think I’ve seen everyone against Charles

@realskydiver777

6 ай бұрын

this is like his only bad take

@adrianhernandez.j2956

4 ай бұрын

@@realskydiver777that and the way he would always glaze mr.beast but was dead quiet when they criticized him for his friend being a trans woman

@realskydiver777

4 ай бұрын

@@adrianhernandez.j2956 I’m pretty sure he said something tho. But even if not, not saying something is different than saying something wrong

@billbrennan2347

4 ай бұрын

It’s the correct take

@adrianhernandez.j2956

4 ай бұрын

@@realskydiver777 he mentioned chris on a stream but didn’t exactly specify why he was getting hate. But Also he didn’t do a whole video about like he would always do with every other small mr beast drama.

Making a 21 minute video about how his 10 minute apology was too much and unnecessary is peak irony.

@cloeunderwood11

Жыл бұрын

that’s so funny😂i didn’t even peep

@slaty50

Жыл бұрын

his apology was 17 mins

@iggynub

Жыл бұрын

You don't understand the word irony, as there isn't a hint of it here. Watching and having a response or reaction to a long form statement isn't ironic, regardless of your feelings about it.

@tumescent

Жыл бұрын

@@iggynub The irony comes from criticizing the long form statement's lack of conciseness in a fashion that is equally if not more long-winded and disrespectful to the viewer's time. It's the definition of irony.

@alberteinstein8862

Жыл бұрын

@@iggynub the CEO of irony

really weird take to not accept an apology that wasn't for you to begin with

@jackaryyy

Жыл бұрын

Where are you? Go look at any other comments section. Especially on any other social media. Nobody agrees with idubbbz, they think he's being a massive cock and that most of his videos weren't even that bad. Seriously most of them are him down speaking saying awful things. Also they're just going to be re-uploaded right now. If you really want to grow then you accept your past

@redactedname8228

Жыл бұрын

Right? And then to make another video basically doubling down is odd...

@ihaveathingforredheads3639

Жыл бұрын

I’m usually eager to hear his takes on things like this but him being so ignorant is something I didn’t expect to hear

@mesaplayer9636

Жыл бұрын

Idubz is apologizing to the community not just black people 🙄

@ne3371

Жыл бұрын

@@mesaplayer9636 1. No one here mentioned black people and 2. Yes, he apologised for many things and specifically directed an apology to “black and minority people”

There’s a big difference between actions that are cringe and those that are downright wrong and unacceptable

@meatystalactite531

Жыл бұрын

And idubbbz’s were just cringe.

@trexasaurus5322

8 ай бұрын

Boohoo bro he said a joke 7 years ago that everyone made

@ahmedkabadeh2565

8 ай бұрын

@@meatystalactite531brother no, he literally ripped the Quran book in half💀

@Nolan-Boi

4 ай бұрын

There’s an even bigger difference between jokes and actions

@aninelson8866

4 ай бұрын

he killed an actual real life mouse. he knew there was a living animal inside the box he was chasing it ith his fist you can find the video easy

Damn dude im a huge fan of yours and i happen to be black. Its tough watching you dismiss something that was tough for me to deal with. I get where your coming from but u arent part of the groups hes hurt dude. Please have some empathy

@Animeslaya

Жыл бұрын

@@steveman751 media affects real life social aspects, while he might not have been harmed directly by ians content, the culture of bigotry he facilitated to his fans had lasting effects on others.

@nGUNNARp

Жыл бұрын

can you actually articulate why some person using the n word is tough for you to deal with? Like, is it because if they use it, it makes you think they do not respect your ancestors, and it bothers you when some internet person doesn't respect your ancestors? Or is it because you think it means he doesn't respect you, a person he's never met? Or what exactly am I missing? Or is it just a free sympathy pass that you get to use?

@zoophyy5868

Жыл бұрын

@@nGUNNARpno, it’s because he enables his fans to use this words against other people who DO get affected by it

@rf-uj5sc

Жыл бұрын

@@nGUNNARp can you articulate why the n word has been considered a racial slur towards black people for centuries? Or are you completely removing any context to that word so you can pretend its some funny internet word that has no racist intent behind it?

@yes9064

Жыл бұрын

@@steveman751 This is the problem, normalizing racism for people like you and labelling it edgy.

Charlie spends 20 minutes explaining why someone using the N word didnt hurt him personally 😂

@lordcchancleta9579

Жыл бұрын

You do know a lot of white people do get offended for other ethnicities. Be grateful Charlie isn't one of them.

@Ethanbilski

Жыл бұрын

And it hurt you? Words hurt you?

@kid2788

Жыл бұрын

@@lordcchancleta9579 why be grateful for that? very pathetic take

@Supermunchwoman

Жыл бұрын

​ @JoshuaWysocki-qr1py when the word pushes a white superiority complex i think it would hurt most people

@kurlykayla9013

Жыл бұрын

@@Ethanbilski yes? do you not know how communication works?

It fills me with humanitarian faith that Charlie isn’t being blindly followed.

@patrickkinnear8625

Жыл бұрын

No, but idubbbz is. He said naughty words and it was basically another Holocaust

@Thomas_Angelo

Жыл бұрын

Let's gooo

@Thomas_Angelo

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickkinnear8625 he is hitler basically.

@icanbreathe9161

Жыл бұрын

Bc his audience is older and can think for themselves

@lad5912

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I may not agree with some comments but its a good thing to see a discussion

Going down the idubbbz rabbit hole again. I kinda see him the same way I look at South Park

@MrTredBear

20 күн бұрын

You need to elaborate on the South Park rope-in.

@thisguyisabeast6874

14 күн бұрын

Idubbbz doesn’t exist anymore it’s just a guy named Ian who gets pegged by his wife sadly

@J2US-gq1vf

12 күн бұрын

​@MrTredBear I think he means the vulgarity used at the time had more complex meaning like when South Park is edgy about a certain topic. The risk they take in their humor has meaning. But I don't agree lol if that's what he means

@volcaeri

16 сағат бұрын

very incomparable. south park just sucks and has always sucked and isn't funny. at least idubbbz has had some funny jokes

To be fair his content cop on leafy was fair game tho, leafy’s content was horrible and far worse than his content

@sirenouir4250

19 күн бұрын

I miss the fucker, tho

Just putting in my 2 cents about Charlie's "I don't think it harmed anyone" comment. As someone who had to deal with white friends I was in school with getting too comfortable with throwing N-bombs after I naively gave the pass to them, then throwing the idubbbz "either all of it's okay or none of it's okay" quote when I told them that I'm no longer comfortable with incessant their use of the N-word, I wish he hadn't made those videos, even as a fan of his back in that day. The flagrant crossing of my boundaries by classmates was certainly not helped by the culture generated by his content.

@DannyDeVitois79

Жыл бұрын

Your experience is not irrelevant…. Idubbbz did not have anything to do with a couple dipshit white kids you happened to be around using that word….. period…… maybe reconsider the next time YOU tell people it’s okay to say that around you….. It’s called the bell curve of humanity,,,, most people of ANY NATIONALITY suck….

@00026-k

Жыл бұрын

Ugh I can’t stand that quote anymore ive heard it so many times

@BigReddthehebrew

Жыл бұрын

That was your dumb self for allowing them to disrespect you not Idubbz fault

@st8vie282

Жыл бұрын

The point is should he really be responsible for the actions of others it’s obvious his videos where constructed in the confides of satire and irony as is most comedy it’s not like he specifically told people to say it or promote it

@humuhumu776

Жыл бұрын

It really is all okay or none of it is. Your race is the same as all others

It’s not like he was a child when he was doing this stuff. He was a 28 year old man.

@Lanooski

Жыл бұрын

people get wise to shit at different rates. as he's addressed his social scope was limited compared to where it is now and his biggest period of growth was defined by encouragement and validation for whatever he was doing or saying at the time. people twice as old as him have identical views to what he had at 28 and worse yet what many people have at 17. look at Tate.

@benabroad8872

Жыл бұрын

@@Lanooski True, but it’s just odd he suddenly got wise when KZread started cracking down on harassment/language

@Tibovl

Жыл бұрын

​@@benabroad8872 KZread has been hammering down on edgy content for several years. It's not like that's a thing that just happened last month. Ian is trying distance himself from his past self. And as a result he regrets many things he did, some of them which were not that bad. This can happen at any age in your life. I think it's far more harmful to not question yourself and justify your own behaviour unreasonably.

@aledso

Жыл бұрын

People who disliked what he used to do are just soft weird twitter people, apparently even now when he's trying to gain them as audience they still don't like him lol

@enoch13th85

Жыл бұрын

@@Tibovl If he regrets it because YT are hammering down on it then he's not sorry. He's just a b'ch. Nothing he did harmed anyone. The only person to call him out on it is himself.

While idubbz and his behavior were reflective of the times, I still feel like his apology was warranted wholeheartedly. One of those axe forgets but the tree remembers type of things. Damage is done either way so to try and reconcile is always welcome

@youforget1000thingsaday

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't okay even then. The n-word was always racist. 😂

@housespider

Жыл бұрын

@@youforget1000thingsaday never said it was okay lol but you're right

@Sneedmire

Жыл бұрын

Low impulse control does far more damage than idubbz making a joke. Maybe the population "damaged" by the jokes needs to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get a job.

@arsyn8353

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@Sneedmiredude really? Are you a POC? Are you a member of the LGBTQ? Are you Jewish? Do you know how shitty it was to go to school and get targeted by the “edgy” kids who watched his videos and harassed those communities? He apologized because those same kids who watched his content went on to directly imitate his “edgy” persona and it did cause damage. Just because you didn’t experience it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t real. And using the “need to get a job” thing is so 40 year old white housewife it’s stinky and lame be better.

@Min-xw8gn

11 ай бұрын

@@Sneedmireme when racism is just minorities feeling sorry for themselves:

Tbh as a black person and someone who was a young teen watching his videos it didn’t really bother me that much what he was saying. It didn’t change me as a person or anything it was just videos on the internet. I feel like most people are so hypocritical when it comes to this stuff. Most of you find it fine when shows like family guy and South Park make some really racist and messed up jokes. But when it’s someone you can actually see and blame them you’re all against it.

@Nexter-Lie

Жыл бұрын

Well the difference is when racism is portrayed in something like sout Park it's typically ridiculed, or the concept of it is mocked. Such as the episode where randy says the n word. Idubbbz on the other hand didn't portray these things in a subversive manner, the joke was often just the racism. Obviously your opinion is just as valid as mine, just my thoughts on the situation

@darknessfred4856

Жыл бұрын

@@Nexter-Lie that’s fair everyone has their own views, I personally don’t feel idubbz was or is racist it was just the jokes he was making but of the same people think hes racist when he really wasn’t. Only part that bothers me tho is penguinZ making a video on his apology trying to dismiss everything he said I don’t feel it was needed

Rice literally picked on a woman who was assaulted… that’s absolutely worth being criticized on a large stage.

@brysonius

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he’s saying he didn’t do some things that were valid or warranted. He’s just not proud of what he’s made as a whole.

@aaronlandry3934

Жыл бұрын

Idubbbz has clearly developed Alzheimer’s in his elderly age

@LukeWeiner1

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t take away from the fact that idubbbz was literally the spokesperson for a word that was uttered as black ppl were lynched, raped, etc.

@tedtheodore5715

Жыл бұрын

But when it happens to a dude nobody gives a shit xd

@keemstarkreamstar7069

Жыл бұрын

@@LukeWeiner1 Words aren’t magic. Saying the word that was used during these events doesn’t make them happen again. The problem with slurs isn’t that they were historically used to demean people, its that they can amplify malicious messages towards these groups. If we operated on the basis that anything associated with something bad in the past is always bad, than environmentalism and wanting rights for animals is literally neo-nazism because Hitler was fond of these things. Also he wasn’t the “spokesperson” for this word.

this is a concerning take on someone owning up to their actions and trying to improve themselves. unless you were one of the people his jokes were directed at, you won’t get it. his content very much normalized the use of many slurs and similar things. im glad that he’s changing for the better

@lunar-_-moon

Жыл бұрын

Nah bring it back

@starriebowie

Жыл бұрын

@@lunar-_-moon ok edgelord

@chucksneedlee

Жыл бұрын

He got ass blasted into infinity after the Sam Hyde video lmao

@flowersintheditch

Жыл бұрын

i don’t understand charlie for this. Like i was on yt when this stuff was popular and other people didn’t feel like it was just ‘edgy’ humor. It wasn’t *acceptable* with a lot of the people at time so for him to act like it was just because it was common just feels really weird and dishonest. people probably didn’t criticize it as much back then because it felt pointless when you’d get dogpiled or worse for pointing it out

@Mightyyy8

Жыл бұрын

​@@chucksneedlee it's the fact that he's making a strawman in the apology video rather than addressing the main criticism he's receiving, which is the froggy fresh and sam hyde situation.

At the end of the day he feels like he made a mistake and is man enough to admit that

@ArMo-ho7ie

26 күн бұрын

It was still racist and the edgy excuse is not enough

Charlie really underestimates how much of an effect iddubbz had on the online community

@gabriellelister7669

Жыл бұрын

Not even just online you couldn’t present any type of fruity w/ out hearing “what are you fuckin gay” from other kids in school 😭 and I watched him too 💀

@JackTheBunny

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabriellelister7669sounds like good times

@WrangleMcDangle

Жыл бұрын

@@gabriellelister7669 yeah it's funny to say that and still is

@Edward-Not-Elric

Жыл бұрын

I think you overestimate. People have been vehemently offensive in the most vile ways for over a decade before idubbz showed up. They never slowed down or ramped up just because another edgy youtuber showed up. They simply took that as a place where their edgy humor was welcome. He didn't create any new edglords. He just gave them another place to be edgy.

@gabriellelister7669

Жыл бұрын

@@WrangleMcDangle it’s cool when it’s in a group who’s cool w/ it. Going up to a stranger cause you think they’re gay and saying that is not funny. That’s being a dick. There’s a diff.

This feels more like a personal confession. It doesn't seem to me like the entire point was to apologize to the people, but also just to get this off his chest since it's been bothering him so long, and it's like to set the record straight for people because his old self isn't what he wants to project to the world anymore.

@macicoinc9363

Жыл бұрын

He's made about 6 videos so far where he does this, he is just repeating himself at this point

@AndoBanderino

Жыл бұрын

I just find it very weird how he wants to separate himself from his old content but also clings onto it so tightly. He's removed content cop, but all the bad unboxings which still include the hateful rhetoric he's distancing himself from is still sitting on his page untouched. The one thing I just find so weird is that in the last boxing match, we walked into the ring with a boxing coat (or whatever it's called) designed after his "I'm Gay" elf costume, which clearly is just a callback to his old videos and only panders to his old audience.

@jfoo3782

Жыл бұрын

Its kind of like kim wexler from Better call saul

@Snorlaxsnaxx

Жыл бұрын

​@macicoinc9363 I can understand why though. People don't want to let go of of their vilification of his old persona.

@jakobxr

Жыл бұрын

You can’t just decide how people perceive you. He has most definitely changed as a person, he went from a brash opinionated edge lord to a disingenuous, insecure, pussywhipped, spineless, (I could go on forever) Clinton-esque cretin. His new doc series he tried to reinvent himself with is just as lowbrow as his old content. Getting on his high horse, pretending he’s a legit filmmaker, while sneak dissing and exploiting his interviewee (daxflame, airsoftfatty). He couldn’t pin down Sam and exploit him so he resents him, hates him. Ian has shown his true colors yet he’s so stubbornly senseless he can’t see how much he’s portraying himself as someone who severely lacks in integrity and grit

it feels like he didnt even watch the video at all....

is this comment section being dominated by chatgpt bots?

@Sharpless2

Ай бұрын

no, but its dominated by wannabe's that think they understand what racism is and are trying to have arguments about hot air. Florida man charles tried to "debunk" an apology (as other people here so elegantly put it), another man says the n word and people immediately act like the world is ending and that the man bascially ruined youtube and taught 4 billion kids that "racism is ok". ian does whatever ian wants to do, charlie does whatever charlie wants to do. Ian said something that offended 1 or 2 black people that immediately rang the drama bell, charlie took the opportunity to ride the drama for views. Ian apologized and made revenue, charlie reacted and made revenue, they both got out fine. Thats it. Ian is known for his type of completely unhinged content and people liked it so obviously he took that chance. You make content for years and it gets views, but then you make some new content that absolutely explodes... youd be stupid to not take that chance.

his content definitely had a much bigger impact on kids than you think back then. The same way ishowspeed is impacting todays generation of kids.

@Dumbledouche

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluent two things can be true at the same time my guy

@edmundfredmund

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluent I was 15 when idubbz started doing content cops. Everyone in my school would watch his shit, and slurs became regular vocabulary for most in my year. Although I don't blame Ian for this, like he said in his video, there is some amount of accountability for his audience, as kids and teenagers are very impressionable. I still think most of his content was great don't get me wrong but normalizing slurs is definitely not a good thing. He obviously wasn't racist or homophobic, neither were most saying it in my school, but none the less shouldn't be said in such a casual way.

@solodolo4098

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamfluentyeah but by that knowledge then dont blame the internet when your kids become a disaster.

@solodolo4098

Жыл бұрын

@@Gamfluent sure they did.... then stop comparing your lifestyle to others then.

@danielcristianescobar8157

Жыл бұрын

It really didn’t. Charlie is 100% right. Toxic people there were there because they were toxic. He wasn’t nearly close to what ishowspeed does today.

An unprompted apology from an honest person is more valuable than any other apology video/statement on the internet

@fart63

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a heartfelt apology on this app before so it’s kinda crazy. I knew it wasn’t coming but I was still waiting for the “*sniff* guys….. its been so hard to make this video…”

@DaFifaKid

Жыл бұрын

unprompted?? hes been getting railed online ever since the boxing event.......this was very much prompted lmao

@yamieruki

Жыл бұрын

​@Nark Formost lmao people changed and left you behind, you do you but don't cry about others

@crashwebb4715

Жыл бұрын

@@DaFifaKid I didn't know about that

@zebbybobebby

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't unprompted. He did this because of the CC2 drama.

I honestly feel like back then, idubbbz just got more and more edgy cause his community would push him and he either never stopped out of fear of losing his audience or just being desensitized

@ANationalguy

Жыл бұрын

I mean still his fault you could stop at any moment using racism for clout is kind of a poopy move

@a7x_nomadiceagle482

Жыл бұрын

@@ANationalguy I never said it was good, I’m just saying that there could be another reason than being edgy for the sake of being edgy

@ANationalguy

Жыл бұрын

@@a7x_nomadiceagle482 Don’t really care if there’s another reason, Doesn’t really change what he did

@FreePalestineF-Israel

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe it was funny.

@marcuslamont41

8 ай бұрын

grow up@@ANationalguy

Came back here to say: I wonder what skeletons are in his closet. If Charlie got this offended and defensive over an apology video that basically said "casual racism is racism, whatever the intent" then something def hit a nerve.

With all due respect Charlie, I don't think Ian was worried he hurt folks like you and me with his "former catchphrase".

@buddybrax

Жыл бұрын

How can anybody seriously listen to this group of twitch streamers and think "These people are intelligent, I plan to listen to them!"

@showoofity50

Жыл бұрын

or hes worried youtube no longer will be profitable if his image is that of his "former"

@metaltrombone549

Жыл бұрын

@@buddybrax Yeah none of them seem too sharp

@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153

Жыл бұрын

The world would be better off if people tossed away the shackles of allowing words to hurt them, and that’s a fact.

@keanukendrick6599

Жыл бұрын

@@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153just like the shackles that held the slaves arms back in the day huh?

The fact he made all of these apologies and never once apologized for that haircut, that's more insane

@hhaste

Жыл бұрын

Seriouslyy. That haircut is way more offensive than anything he has ever said

@Lymborium

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's like the only thing that reminds me of old iDubbz lmao

@markjacobson4248

Жыл бұрын

​@@hhaste let's be honest, a mullet is about as idubbz a haircut as possible.

@Necroggore

Жыл бұрын

i think it looks pretty sweet ngl

@donzolez9482

Жыл бұрын

Kinda gay to judge someone's looks, fashion nerd

"At the end of the day, your subscribers aren't your friend's. You don't know them and

the fact that this video did so horribly is surprising what happened 💀

@tommygoncalves9569

7 ай бұрын

Wdym

@Captain_Insano_Shows_No_Mercy

7 ай бұрын

It has over 3 million views. What are you smoking?

@thecov3n

7 ай бұрын

@@Captain_Insano_Shows_No_Mercy I’m talking about the comments lol everyone is mad

@tommygoncalves9569

7 ай бұрын

@@thecov3n yeah ur right lmao. Moistcritixal is being biased asf bcs it’s iddubz. If anyone on the internet now was posting insensitive, racist, homophobic content, he would be gawking on a moral high ground. But for some reason it was okay for iddubz to do so? Ye he trippin

@orangeflavoredmf

7 ай бұрын

@@tommygoncalves9569 Maybe form your own thoughts instead of regurgitating someone else's. Read books and shit

i promise if you ever met an average preteen idubbbz fan in 2016, you wouldn't say his content/impact wasn't damaging LOL

@cksupreme

Жыл бұрын

Those kids would've acted like that regardless of whether or not they consumed Idubbz's content, m8. You're making the "video games cause violence" argument here.

@Asmodeuslvr

Жыл бұрын

@@cksupreme Normalization of using slurs and spouting casual bigotry leads to negative impacts of the community directly affected historically by said slurs and bigotry.

@Scrinklins

Жыл бұрын

Idubbbz didn’t make them. They’re the kids that were calling you a f** in cod game chat in 2010 why are y’all acting like someone in 2016 created that it’s just internet culture by 2016 it was dying

@TheSebi99p

Жыл бұрын

@@Asmodeuslvr what a load of horseshit

@river-sama7681

Жыл бұрын

@@cksupreme not remotely the same dude. or are you trying to argue that young children and teenagers will not emulate what they see their role models doing? like is that seriously what you're trying to imply? because one of the most basic things to understand about kids is that they are extremely impressionable.

Things don't need to be huge, massive, unforgiviable problems for people to apologise for them.

@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe

Жыл бұрын

except for when they're bad things like you know telling people that saying slurs is okay

@cookiesncream9158

Жыл бұрын

Sure but let’s not act like racism *isn’t* a huge problem. Like yeah, no one’s getting killed from him saying the n-word and telling his audience that it’s okay for them to as well, but it does create an unsafe and unwelcome environment for black people on the platform, and in turn, in real life as well, and that issue shouldn’t be trivialized.

@senopai.8377

Жыл бұрын

@@cookiesncream9158 agree with this 100%, but i think the og comment was just countering how charlie started the video. like when he said “ian wasn’t killing puppies” like obviously but that doesn’t mean he can’t apologize for it. ykwim? i don’t think og comment was saying racism isn’t a big problem (because it definitely is) they were just countering charlie’s argument

@cookiesncream9158

Жыл бұрын

@@senopai.8377 yeah yeah fs fs, I wasn’t tryna imply that og doesn’t see racism as a huge issue, I agree with everything they said, I just thought it was worth mentioning because that it could definitely be read that way.

@senopai.8377

Жыл бұрын

@@cookiesncream9158 oh oki !! ❤️

Kurt Cobain was a great example of this...but fast tracked out of nowhere.

I think I’m this case he 100% needed to acknowledge it I’ve been wondering about his stance on his old shit for years

I don't think he did this out of a place of obligation, he did it because it was making him uncomfortable. This apology video *was* the video he wanted to make, essentially.

@slothschewgum

Жыл бұрын

he did it because his “wife’s” boyfriend told him to*

@lobsterairsoft499

Жыл бұрын

Can't it be both? That he feels guilty for the pain he has caused, and therefore obligated to address it?

@OriNyte

Жыл бұрын

@@slothschewgum Source?

@yeyeyeyeyeyeyyeyey

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The fact he’s more critical of himself than others are of him is not surprising, it’s human. If I did something I saw as bad, I am going to be the one to carry that full burden of guilt, but anyone else will just see it as another thing

@mishaaskar

Жыл бұрын

​@@OriNyte me

To be fair, this is the most sincere and genuine apology video on the entire goddamn platform.

@Quatrixjs1

Жыл бұрын

People think the fact he doesn't actually remove the videos makes it insincere

@chickencurry420

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with that idea but I understand where it's coming from

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Yeah? Why then since he wants to disown his actions, he doesnt go out and donate all the money hes made from the old videos? Talk is cheap

@end.olives

Жыл бұрын

Yall are just easily satisfiable people, sort of person that belives short videos

@SM-nz9ff

Жыл бұрын

@@end.olives basically yeah...and to keep the same name associated with hate and bigotry therefore triggered all those affected....talk is cheap indeed.

This is like the opposite of most apology videos

I still find it odd how this went from do you know da way to being the word of youtube

I’ve never seen anyone try to debunk an apology

@Ozhull

Жыл бұрын

Very reductive take, clown

@killaghxst4874

Жыл бұрын

@@Ozhull it’s not a take it’s what he did

@Nanamin69

Жыл бұрын

"debunk" he just called it fake and garbage, which it actually is

@killaghxst4874

Жыл бұрын

@@Nanamin69 apologizing for saying the n word isn’t garbage

@abcdefzhij

Жыл бұрын

Flombiggies!

Regardless of the side of an issue you're on, expressing regret for your past is totally normal. Power to him for seeing something he doesn't like about himself, and deciding to change.

@theolympiyn8670

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k huh?

@CultishLamb

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k what are you on?

@SSelkie3

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering k ...what

@PeruvianPotato

Жыл бұрын

​@Puzzle Pottage This and the fact he was 27 when he was in his heydays

@Meta9871

Жыл бұрын

@@CultishLamb took me exactly 5 seconds to google it, he's not wrong

what the fuck i charlie talking about?? 😭😭 ive never seen him miss this hard before

@lukastace3154

26 күн бұрын

ong, biggest miss of all time

It wasn't 2016 edginess my dude, it was 2016 bigotry

@awfulandawfullerlol

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being so weak minded and pathetic that you think COMEDY KZread VIDEOS create harm. Only someone MISERABLY susceptible to bad emotions would think of comedy this way. You need to grow up or everything will make you crawl in a ball and cry like a loser.

@dancinganimals.

Жыл бұрын

​@Lisbeth I wholeheartedly agree

@luznoceda2003

Жыл бұрын

@Lisbeth it was a better time

@jacobtaylor3598

Жыл бұрын

Specify?

@melleyne7615

Жыл бұрын

Brother, you were probably like 8 years old back then

this is like your friend apologizing to you about something and then someone who had nothing to do with the situation completely ignoring your feelings and being like “no no don’t apologize to them you should keep doing what ur doing!!!”

@77768

Жыл бұрын

yeah when he said it was “just edgy” about racism normalization. Hate on all groups that come with a slur I had to check the video again… am I really watching charlie react to idubz apology?

@jondavis3427

Жыл бұрын

Shows how toxic Charlie is

@plep3718

Жыл бұрын

yeah, except your friend isn't even apologising to you, they're apologising to the people that actually were affected and you butt in to say nah its all good

@doomedallweare5014

Жыл бұрын

@@77768 and what about the content of idubbbz was normalization of racism? his point was people give words too much power. ironcally those bitching about using the n-word without context were the first using in a racist hateful way like Tana . you can think it's wrong to use the word but don't pretend it's the same as using to a black person to insult them based on their race or use it on all people.

@77768

Жыл бұрын

@@doomedallweare5014 read what you said again… you’re contradicting yourself. If you’re a racist just own up to that don’t try to compare something bad to something ungodly & be like “see in contrast it’s not that bad”. That’s disgusting that you have to take it that far to justify it. The n word is above all a derogatory term with a dark history behind it. It’s bad as it is. it’s not “just a word”

Idubbz is the only person I actually believe has changed.

@Mattropolis97

23 күн бұрын

It’s unfortunate. If anyone was actually offended by him they should either stop watching or grow tf up. Try being a minority in a country outside North America. I promise we ain’t that bad compared to everyone else 😂

Ppl don't realize what an abusive relationship is

@yourmother-og7tr

18 сағат бұрын

Critikal and Idubbz toxic yaoi

He didn't make an apology to satisfy some angry mob, no one was trying to cancel him. He did it because he knew it would get rid of the type of audience he doesn't want around anymore and I fucking get it.

@poopyscoopy6984

Жыл бұрын

Not even a week ago he was in drama for fucking over another youtuber and it brought up his past.😊😅

@fatlizard_

Жыл бұрын

@@poopyscoopy6984 to be fair, they had it coming. this kind of shit was probably hanging over Ian's head for a long time and that dragged all of it back to the surface and he felt like he HAD to get it off his chest.

@lisztresurrected9438

Жыл бұрын

He did it because his wife and the other drama he's involved with, where he is acting objectively terrible and two faced.

@eddievanhorn5497

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and I think that his apology is a perfect example of how the right's idea of "cancel culture" is BS. Ian wants to change and be better, and most people are giving him the space to. The only people at his neck are the ones who he left behind as he grew and are terrified by the thought that he could be right about being wrong.

@ArchonCommando

Жыл бұрын

He did it because his channel is practically dead and he needed some more publicity for his fighting events going forward.

At the end of the day Charlie is still a Florida man

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

not an excuse

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

@ieatalot ok? but that's giving white men leeway to act like they can't control them being dumb and ignorant

@ruminationstation4200

Жыл бұрын

​@ieatalot idk, Ian seems pretty ok (now). It shouldn't have taken a grown man to be on the receiving end to get it, but at least he gets it now. That seems to be miles ahead of Charlie

@BloodInTheStrawberries

Жыл бұрын

​@@arshiiia Who said it was-? You've missed the joke here, Florida is known for being bigoted atm. That's the point.

@arshiiia

Жыл бұрын

@@BloodInTheStrawberries ok my bad

people forget to think it, dream it and do it

never in my life did i think iDubbbz would get in drama in 2023

@NateMakesMusic

Жыл бұрын

I feel raw and rashed up below

@foolishgamer99

Жыл бұрын

Athen Booth

@katakuri5267

Жыл бұрын

Comment speed run

@Mcburger644

Жыл бұрын

Quite the throwback

@danielltorres5895

Жыл бұрын

How does this comment have 140likes in 2 mins 💀

As a black man myself used to really liked Idubbz and I used to think a lot of his racist shock humor was funny. However, that person who use to find that funny also enabled others to make racist remakes about them because they wanted to fit in. Being in my 20’s I can now see how damaging casual racist jokes were to my self image and how I saw other black people were. Racist humor whether with good attentions or not still place a seed of bigotry that can grow into many things. Hate, depression, self doubt, confusion. Bigotry can do a lot when promoted which is why I personally am glad Idubbz understands the impact he could have had and why those jokes were so harmful

@Cloudsurfer69

Жыл бұрын

This comment is a real one ☝️

@honeyswann

Жыл бұрын

Same, as a pan poc girl, I used to think I was cool for liking his content. It also ruined my self image and I basically hated myself with everything I agreed with. I’m 20 now and I hate who I used to me, it caused me irreparable damage that I tried so hard to fit in with some guys and even some girls. I’m glad there’s a bunch of us who know the impacts he had.

@solomon2532

Жыл бұрын

Comment i left on idubbbz video: "To be honest Ian, your content did influence a lot of kids to be rather horrible. Anecdotal but nonetheless I experienced A LOT of bullying and harassment from people i considered friends and outside of them directly referencing your content. Discussions about your content, discussions about the use of certain words, were all justified because Idubbbz said so. I was one of the only black student at my high school and the only one in my year group. It was isolating enough to be a different skin colour, but further isolating when people around me started blurting n- f-, or saying those things to my face. No amount of appealing to these kids could save me from the torment. People say blame the parents, blame the so and so, but i want people to understand that Ians content played a role, it contributed and exacerbated the intensity of my treatment. All for what man"

@onbox6276

Жыл бұрын

Wow, this is a perfect example of self reflection done right. It’s good that you accept yourself bro

@George-pl7eu

Жыл бұрын

​@@solomon2532 bro you can't blame idubbbz content for you being bullied really can't

This is the moment Penguinzero became Yongyea.

not in a disrespectful way but he became me and my friends humour for our time in school and what that does is promotes the racist words being okay no matter what the words not being meant in a racist way but it’s still racist slurs

Honestly I think if he wants to apologize for something he regrets, there’s nothing wrong with that.

@Gcannoli1837

Жыл бұрын

I agree for sure taking acountability and appologizing is important. I just feel he's looking at everything with rose tinted glasses. The part about slurs, and hate speech 1000% agree on how he's appologizing for it. However take that away and much of the content disecting keemstar and other really bad actors, nothin wrong with that. At the end of the day it is his call and I think people throwing a hissy fit over it are stupid, but I think he is over correcting hard

@williamburns3823

Жыл бұрын

Hate speech is just speech

@emelgizzybruh2058

Жыл бұрын

@@Gcannoli1837that’s what I’m saying, and you just see his new fans saying that the content cops were unnecessary when it objectively made the site better. People just can’t appreciate what he did at the time anymore. Hate the double slit catchphrase tho made him sound like an idiot

@postverifiedlifestyle

Жыл бұрын

@@emelgizzybruh2058 “objectively made the site better” i don’t think you know what objectively means brother

@sidcitris4162

Жыл бұрын

It feels like he's going through a 12 step program and this is one of the steps, apologizing for past mistakes

Alternate title: I Can Excuse Racism, but I Draw the Line at Animal Cruelty.

@hana-rv6ru

Жыл бұрын

lmao i remember when he did his celebrity tier list and one guy (football player i think) had a dog fighting ring and critikal and matt were talking/joking about how much they hate animal abuse compared to “more serious” crimes

@greensabr200

Жыл бұрын

When was idubbz racist though lol

@allybrookeaf79

Жыл бұрын

@@greensabr200 a good vhunk of his youtube career 🙄

@greensabr200

Жыл бұрын

@@allybrookeaf79 so everyone who ever used the word cracker is also racist

@2goblinsinatrenchcoat

Жыл бұрын

@@greensabr200 you win the award for dumbest question asked in a KZread comment section

Looking back at this he was 100% correct

Imo, whether he's being fair with himself or not (I never watched his stuff so idk, I'll take his word for it) I think it's good reflect on the fact he (apparently) made content that can be understood as very emotionally negative (even for laughs.) That being said I think Charlie can have an opinion about the apology and make points about things he doesn't have a clear understanding of. I'd actually like to see them talk face to face and clear up what iDubz meant.

Glad Charlie has takes like this that I 100% disagree with to keep the parasocial relationship at bay

@micalzoncillo249

Жыл бұрын

amen

@airanator1212

Жыл бұрын

Too real

@adrian-js9zw

Жыл бұрын

you’re so real for that

@jazzlynnoel3265

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@anemicVeins

Жыл бұрын

So true

Charlie is acting like this apology video was made directly for him lol

@WorldJustice5

Жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair. He did put Situation in the title. But lol

@Homer92

Жыл бұрын

I think this is striking a little close to home for Charlie. This is a commentary channel, not that different from what content cop was but less produced

@laurax1179

Жыл бұрын

@@Homer92 yeah it does feel like that might be why Charlie is having this defensive sort of response

@britann9539

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think this must be hitting a little close to home for Charlie... It sounds like - I could be wrong. - he's almost defending himself in some way

@koidayo

Жыл бұрын

@@Homer92 you really need to stop projecting your thoughts on people you don't know besides what they post on the internet.

Idubbbz once criticized Tana for saying "the context of the n word doesn't matter, using it is still racist" while also saying that casual racism is still racism.

@ballisticbiscuit5706

3 ай бұрын

I dont see a contradion. Idubbbz was never casually racist. He never judged anyone based on the color of their skin or tried to say anything remotely racist. He just used words that are considered "racist" back then because he had views about the topic that he no longer holds

@davoohm2779

3 ай бұрын

@@ballisticbiscuit5706 Well yes I'm not saying he was racist or anything, it's just that he critizised Tana for saying that the n word is always racist reguardless of the context but then claimed in his video that him just saying the n word was racist. I just find it strange that he would grow to think this way when he was right before.

@ballisticbiscuit5706

3 ай бұрын

@@davoohm2779 Oh, i see now and yeah I agree

this take i dont completely side with because idubbbz ripped the quran thats way worse that stating an opinion which what his videos are mesnt to be.

He isn't doing it for you Charlie he's doing it for himself.

@mxdungeon7312

Жыл бұрын

common boter sause W

@KiwiHavok777

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he is ruining his life sure

@inmyhead00

Жыл бұрын

@@KiwiHavok777 charlie's take was dumb but not life ruining bro relax

@drkchoco6061

Жыл бұрын

@@inmyhead00 Lmfao 💀

@Cat_Magic811

Жыл бұрын

Doing*

If someone wants to apologize for something they did at one point and now they deem that thing as a bad thing.. let them apologize. The apology could just be them making amends and clearing their own mind.

@user-fz3sz2dj4r

Жыл бұрын

Nah, he just realized he can't make money on it anymore. In the proper context, his content was fine.

@andyabreu5627

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fz3sz2dj4r not even in 2014 context was it totally fine. he’s always been seen as edgy, even he knows that

@Gnsd45

Жыл бұрын

except the apology isnt about all that, question is, why you care so much about a dudes reaction to someones apologies when you dont know shit about the context of that situation?

@thisisAshtar2

Жыл бұрын

he did he never said he couldnt he just said it feels idiotic he cannot stop him for apologizing his opinion is on the apology itself 🤦🏼‍♀️

@28_rog

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fz3sz2dj4r plus that shit was funny asf

i actually agree with idubbz a lot more here, personally.

Bro woke up and realized it’s 2023

You can be hurtful and cause damage even if that wasn't your intention.

@crosshavoc1387

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it doesn’t matter if it wasn’t your intention.

@tylersargent3307

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 it does matter thou. If I don’t mean to hit someone with my car, I still killed someone if they died. Words matter and dubz alone helped cause a new generation of asshats just like leafy

@joshuakohn4408

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 To say it doesn't matter at all is crazy but it's a huge difference that is for sure

@hwowwhwoo

Жыл бұрын

@@crosshavoc1387 ok, so you can drive your car on the sidewalk with the intent of getting to work a little faster, the people you mowed down on the way won't matter because turning them into a series of stains on the concrete wasn't something you intended on doing my point is that your actions, whether they be casual bigotry or vehicular manslaughter, have consequences regardless of intent

@kagemarushun7378

Жыл бұрын

​@@hwowwhwooyour analogy is invalid. Drivin on a sidewalk is illegal and you will hit someone regardless. Making content about people being useless, Idiots or generally being annoying is not something that bad if at all.

I know this is corny AF but it takes a lot more guts to be that sincere and humble than to be a trashy edgelord

@DylanDrinksWater

Жыл бұрын

It's not corny, it's true Showing vulnerability is way cooler than hiding behind a shell of edginess and hate

@peacemaster8117

Жыл бұрын

@@DylanDrinksWater Pussying out of making harmless jokes isn't cool.

@titanium_rocket1505

Жыл бұрын

Frfr he has my respect for that

@titanium_rocket1505

Жыл бұрын

@@peacemaster8117 except they’re not harmless. Saying slurs is hurtful to a lot of people

@evolalienn

Жыл бұрын

@@peacemaster8117“harmless” TO YOU That doesn’t mean funny or “harmless” to everyone.

Man, the butthurt and salt in these comments is unwavering

i mean this is just prime example of americans right too right and left too left, if youre trying to tell ppl youre politically correct, everything slightly off the line is unacceptable.... its sad and lack nuance

My perspective is this: I don’t think idubbbz should apologize for criticizing other creators, but I think it’s good that he’s apologizing for HOW he did it.

@sdnmkhn

Жыл бұрын

Yuppp. He even says in the video: "I still don't like you guys" to all the content cop subjects

@flavoredrice176

Жыл бұрын

The way he did it wasn't wrong. He had nothing to apologize for.

@yetube6047

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I don’t think Idubbz was apologizing for criticizing people though.

@user-jp3bu6cx9q

Жыл бұрын

This!

@simonfredheim9581

Жыл бұрын

The way he did it wasn't even bad. Ian is saying that he made himself seem better than everyone else but like Charlie pointed out he never actually gave that impression.

I’m personally really proud of Charlie subscribers for not just mindlessly agreeing with this video (it’s ok if you do) I think he’s misunderstanding this whole apology and I’m happy to see I’m not the only person that thinks that.

@cyrus2430

Жыл бұрын

agreed, i felt really weird at the beginning being like..???

@SultanFriendlyGuest

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's okay to agree with a bad take, but I am happy to see it too.

@glossiangelz

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely thought it was just me 😭

@HALF_DAY

Жыл бұрын

Ye instead they’re mindlessly agreeing with the most liked comments

@kerosoba

Жыл бұрын

@@glossiangelz i wasn’t goin say anything cus i thought his fans were goin cook me😭

its probably something to do with a lot of other content creators getting cancelled, especially with shane dawsons whole thing with his old content

Even if the things he said were jokes, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of impressionable kids saw this bigotry, ironic or not, and started trying to be like him. I don't like Idubbbz for reasons besides all of this, but I respect him for speaking out about it even though he didn't have to. In my eyes that makes it far more impactful than it otherwise would have been if it was forced.

I’ll miss the food reviews in the sewer the most.

@theofficialrafff

Жыл бұрын

He confirmed he’ll still be doing them in the pinned comment of his apology I’m pretty sure

@Keurgui1

Жыл бұрын

YOU BITE THE PEACH THE PEACH BITES BACK

@nothorren

Жыл бұрын

@@Keurgui1 THE PICKLES

@ripred

Жыл бұрын

@@Keurgui1 lmaoo

@danteshollowedgrounds

Жыл бұрын

Haha classic.

Of course you don’t see the scope of the damage Idubbz had because you’re not on the receiving end.

@infoscrolls

Жыл бұрын

uhh uhh muh mean words

@GarbyBoi

Жыл бұрын

i dont really get what's going on in the comment section here. this was barely an appology it was a way to fight back the people who say they miss the old iddubz, many people from the 2015 crew like maxmofoe and chad and many others like ksi or even pewdiepie slowly changed their content in different ways without having to shit on their old fans (who also were young and edgy and also might've grown out of it). You dont need to dedicated 2-3 videoes and go podcast after podcast to appologies for being edgy 8 to 9 years ago when everyone else was. you dont see all of the 2016 edgelords saying they'll never forgive themselves for being edgy 8 years ago. be realistic.

@vindikaktus

Жыл бұрын

@@infoscrolls Preteen youtube commenter doesn't think bigotry is real. More news at 11.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's how perspectives work? It's why empathy exists to help us understand each other in ways some might not have personally experienced but we can still understand each other and try to make some positive change for those who are affected negatively

@bobafett4452

Жыл бұрын

​@@vindikaktus cope

While I don't have a problem with an individual changing their behavior and content, I do have a problem with people pulling the ladder up along with them. There's been a slew of people recently that used to make edge and raunchy content who now are screaming at the top of their lungs at people who are making the same kind of content that they used to make. You can't make a serious amount of money doing something and then call foul when other people try to make money doing the same thing you did, that's called being a hypocrite.

@yes9064

Жыл бұрын

He would be a hypocrite if he's still doing it. He condemned his past actions too, he can do so for others too since whether he did itor someone else its wrong.

@Mazzmaker69

Жыл бұрын

@@yes9064 Nope, still a hypocrite. You can't make tons of money and gain tons of popularity by doing X and then condemn other people who do X for the exact same reason you did. He's more than welcome to not do his old style of content, but blasting others for doing the exact same thing that made him popular is peak hypocrisy. Unless he is willing to delete his KZread channel and give away all the money he made doing what he did, it's still hypocrisy because he still gets money from his old content and he wouldn't have the current viewer base without said old content.

@yes9064

Жыл бұрын

@@Mazzmaker69 What do you want him to do? Be on the streets? He still needs to make a living, and can very well regret doing x and suggest others to not do the same. I hate this once an idiot always an idiot mentality.

Yeah Idubz never struck me as a racist. I get wanting to apologize for using slurs but it was pretty clear in the Tana video he was using them to make a point that she was a hypocrite…I haven’t seen his vids in like 5+ years but that’s what I got from it

Ive gotta say its shocking to me that a man can scream the n word in someone's face, apologise for it 7 years later and somehow its the apology that people consider "controversial"

@christhomas3035

Жыл бұрын

Tana had called him out for using the n word after she ahead used it 10 billion times herself so idubbbz said what he said he wasn’t “screaming the n word” in anyone’s face lmao

@pkpokeman

Жыл бұрын

@@christhomas3035 brother you obviously didn't watch enough of his content, he had full videos defending the use of the n-word

@pokeystar101

Жыл бұрын

Must of watch it with eyes closed

@Notlordstark

Жыл бұрын

And even Charlie, who usually has decent takes on this stuff, then tells us that it wasn’t hurtful or hateful for him to say the n-word. Extremely rare Charlie L

@andydelatorre4290

Жыл бұрын

@@Notlordstark context always matters, granted, not a nice word but he never used it in a harmful matter compared to Tana. Not defending it but context always matters.

iDubbbz's apology is the first youtube apology that comes from actual regret, which i respect

@catbeans4685

Жыл бұрын

So he should stop profiting from those videos

@DeterminismisFreedom

Жыл бұрын

🧐Ain't no way he said content cop was based on 'lackluster criticisms'! That's what relationships do to people. Beware!

@superscatman4236

Жыл бұрын

@@catbeans4685 He literally unlisted them.

@boi2323

Жыл бұрын

his apology just comes from the gaslighting from his wife. she’s the puppet master now

@cuhlainnslane1564

Жыл бұрын

this isnt regret, its guilt. Someone in his life, whom he cares for deeply it seems, is making him feel massively guilty over this.

Joji crying over iDubbbz to change

Rare footage of Charlie's first bad take.

@drewpott

Ай бұрын

Based take actually

@aspebb

26 күн бұрын

He's never actually had a take. He sits on the fence.

@lukastace3154

26 күн бұрын

agreed. 90% of his takes i agree with entirely, but every now and then he'll have an astronomically bad take (in my opinion) whether it be on situations like these, moral topics, games, content, etc

@newvision4l314

12 күн бұрын

@@aspebbgetting mad at someone for apologizing for something that doesn’t even effect you is jumping off of the fence, ffs

No one was trying to go after him. He just apologized and changed cause he regretted it. This is genuine.

@jujuteuxOfficial

Жыл бұрын

he grew a small and petty person, he regressed

@uavdoug985

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@uavdoug985

Жыл бұрын

@@jujuteuxOfficial facts

@pierluigiadreani2159

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I am sure that his business and his girlfriend have nothing to do with it.

@Supreme_Lobster

Жыл бұрын

I think he is genuinely confused

Shout out to all the people in the comments who actually understood where iDubbz was coming from, and could think critically about his apology.

@spacebars9677

Жыл бұрын

i still don’t get how both videos charlie made on this subject were so fucking braindead. like what the fuck.

@splatjet

Жыл бұрын

😹

@aoleary5834

Жыл бұрын

Nah, we all got the message. He's just wrong. And it's really weird to be speaking over a person on their own actions. Especially when you were obviously never affected by any of the wrongdoing. That's super weird. He did not need to speak on this.

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

lol none of yall are thinking critically. You have an ideological stance and nothing will move you from it.

@Gnsd45

Жыл бұрын

you are talking about the small minority, that know that idubbbz is coming from a place of simping and lack of integrity and dignity? the irony is too massive once you see the big picture, but people are simple and they just need to listen to pretty words instead of reasoning to come to conclusions, hense the reason they keep electing the same type of shitty presidents... you d think the new generation is better than that, but over here its still full of people who are easy to get manipulated with pretty words and dont really have the capability to form their own opinions, at least talking for the ones that arent just hasty to comment over coming across a couple of selective or wrong info

These comments are fucking hilarious.

This is the greatest apology situation of All Time

Being black in middle school during those “edgy” years was absolute hell. I was constantly harassed by kids parroting the same shit he said, calling me “n-word, f-word” and following me around constantly. I’m not saying Idubbz is responsible for anyone else’s actions, but he did encourage this kind of hate and bullying in his videos, and it did hurt real life people. I believe the apology is warranted. Just because you didn’t see the affects, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

@watch-Dominion-2018

Жыл бұрын

he was mocking people who use the N word, but you Gen Z never have the ability to understand mockery

@keynage6693

Жыл бұрын

@@watch-Dominion-2018 mockery might've been his intention but the outcome was what was posted in the comment above, that's what Idubbz was apologizing for. Braindead take I'm ngl

@peachnotperf

Жыл бұрын

@@watch-Dominion-2018 are you trying to say that his previous content were satirizing slurs rather than just making a joke out of them ??? thats ... interesting

@watch-Dominion-2018

Жыл бұрын

@@keynage6693 you're clearly a Gen Z npc

@watch-Dominion-2018

Жыл бұрын

@@peachnotperf Gen Z npc

I think idubbz genuinely struggles with his actions in the past especially when its so well documented. Its like of every regretful thing you dod as a child is recorded, you are famous for it and made a living of it. I feel like the guilt for me would eat me up inside. This apology video was a way for idubbz to give himself closure from the past.

@Biggleboggles

Жыл бұрын

Which was the point o his video, and apology. Charlie didn’t seem to like that

@JTestForTruth

Жыл бұрын

It's not that complex though. If he genuinely feels this bad, quit the space. If you climbed to the top of a shoe-production company by quite literally sabotaging other shoe industries, the only way you could possibly "absolve" yourself of this is to remove yourself from the space. You can't sit on your throne at the top and act like anyone who dares act as you acted to get where you were is now somehow morally reprehensible and use your growth as an excuse to prevent others from doing what you did. It's an absurd ideology.

@innsaanitty

Жыл бұрын

@@Biggleboggles I swear charlie is way off target with this one. idubbbz clearly mentions that he realises it was foolish of him to think he had zero responsibility for the indirect consequences of his edgelord content, leaving it upto the teen audiences to be responsible about not using his content to validate their bigoted views. like it's genuinely admirable that he takes responsibility and apologises publicly like this and then charlie is all "technically you didn't have to" 😂

@susfringgaming4018

Жыл бұрын

He's also probably scared that since he's only 30 this stuff will remain online forever so I'd he ever becomes mainstream popular again, those clips of him saying the N word will always haunt him, so I feel like he is pre-emptively addressing those , especially with creator clash becoming more and more popular, at some point he was going to have to face the music

@Biggleboggles

Жыл бұрын

@@innsaanitty lol

Bro I can’t even fathom how blind you were to this issue. Chronically online and this shows you don’t socialize enough

@sharkattack6157

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I guess this is what happens to your brain when you stay in Florida too long.

i think he actually meant all the hate towards groups if he's claiming it bigoted, people have clearly spoke to him and he has thought "not these people" as they approach instead of treating everyone as a person, thats what these kinds of hateful people do, they meet people they have categorised and found they can seem to squeeze them into the box they've created.

@kurisu4630

3 ай бұрын

Bingo

isn’t it possible he is just genuinely reflecting on his past and how he’s dealt with it? Like Charlie says “this wasn’t so damaging that his career would be over” but maybe he just genuinely feels bad in his own opinion and wants to reflect. You don’t always need an exterior motive to apologize. Idk maybe i’m crazy

@ceffyf1938

Жыл бұрын

Nah man I 100% agree with you. I like Charlie but this video was kinda weird

@macandfries6765

Жыл бұрын

yeah, charlie is a human though and everyone is entitled to their opinion

@phoenixflambe3319

Жыл бұрын

In the internet? People always assume more untrue than anything that there's an ulterior motive when apologizing.

@platty9237

Жыл бұрын

Has his girlfriend taken over? Like is he going to become Steve shives ? Jk, I shudder just typing that guys name.

@loveliestlies

Жыл бұрын

For real! Most people have actually forgotten about IDubbz, so that just further proves that he wasn’t just doing damage control, he genuinely feels bad and wants to make amends.

Critikal was so scared of talking about Chris being trans yet he seems very open about this topic..

@duckhugger7692

Жыл бұрын

Him and sunnyv2 are friends thats why😭

@NotimetoVero

Жыл бұрын

@@duckhugger7692 yo wtf I did not know that. How slimy.

@_melodyx

Жыл бұрын

​@@duckhugger7692ugh gross. will not regret unsubbing from charlie. cant even tell what his values stand behind the camera but i can tell he is very ignorant

@skellish

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm slowly learning that Charlie is not quite the person I thought he was... Him not willing to be critical of bigotry/not realizing the impact even "casual" bigotry can have feels a little bit telling. Maybe it's him not wanting to reflect on himself/feeling vilified for having enjoyed said content in the past, I'm not sure, I obviously don't know how Charlie thinks, I don't know the man. But regardless I don't think I can continue to support him if he can't see why someone would want to apologize for doing obviously harmful things.

@jason59k55

Жыл бұрын

@@skellish this mentality is common among many people including youtubers. even mlk addressed these kinds of people, their mentality, and impact in his letter on what he called them: the white moderate.

I will say that it is funny as a more conservative person growing up watching his videos. A lot of my friends would mimic him in the worst ways saying the R word, N word and making racist and tons of homophobic jokes. While I found his content super funny I never felt the need to mimic those types of jokes it just seemed inappropriate. Now in the present day all of these people who made racist and homophobic jokes everyday, people that even made homophobic jokes towards me (I'm not gay) are now woke and extremely far left. I am jewish and they would sometimes make jewish jokes I did not find funny at all. It seems so odd to me. One of my most homophobic friends is now a socialist that goes to pride parades whenever the chance arises. It seems that Idubbbz is having a similar character arc which I find very interesting. Like I'm a conservative just chilling while these people jumping all over the map and its like wtf is happening.

I wonder where all these poeple were at when the videos were being made. They climb out of their caves just to criticize someone who is making a good point on all fronts.

If you're able to cringe at your past self, that means you've grown. That's a good thing.

@nickbrowning3270

Жыл бұрын

Only a Sith deals in absolutes

@brunemmm

Жыл бұрын

@@nickbrowning3270 bro thinks hes a sith lord💀

@pricklypear3625

Жыл бұрын

No, it means you've changed. That doesn't necessarily mean "grown".

@rottensteak508

Жыл бұрын

When I cringe at my past self I wonder if I’ll always be cringey, just growing to recognize the past and not noticing the present, which is terrifying

@pigboy2402

Жыл бұрын

@@brunemmm it's a joke goofball

Charlie, as a 30 year old to a 30 year old. We been around long enough to know that what we see on the surface doesn't compare to what we see under the water. Meaning jus cause you didn't see the full damage of his content doesn't mean that it isn't as bad as he said.

@nullakjg767

Жыл бұрын

Damn what kinda stuff was Idubz doing? Was he whipping slaves?

@talb.1805

Жыл бұрын

@@nullakjg767 saying slurs for shits and giggles and being an absolute asshat about it

@tomjohnson4822

Жыл бұрын

​​@@nullakjg767 this mindset is minimal. What if it promoted the killing of a group of people? I don't know. Don't ask me. Never watched the guy. Most I know is from Charlie. Just saying that you have no CLUE what effect his words had on people. Could have been one of the people that shot up a school. You don't know these things. 🤷 That's what the other commenter was saying just... Less extreme. Edit:TLDR. WORDS HAVE MEANINGS AND EFFECT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY. Crazy right?

@floraljar9731

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly well written comment, thank you

@nullakjg767

Жыл бұрын

@@tomjohnson4822 Wow how could you say that to me? You have no idea how damaging you are right now. You better apologize for this in 10 years. You cant ever know because you arent me, but just trust me youve caused me serious damage. Your intent means nothing

i love charlies content and most of the times agree with him but this is just too crazy. he was being racist said some harmfull slur , harassed tana mojo irl . how is it not harmfull what he did. telling him his apology is over top is crazy especially for somethign that didnt effect you.