It feels wrong that you used a person's death for the purpose of this documentary. Jonghyun's life was far more complicated than k-pop.

@brooklyntsang4467

4 жыл бұрын

Alexandra Matrescu idk I am korean and I believe that being an idol and the difficulties that lifestyle brought absolutely contributed. But yes, himself as a person should not be reduced to be only remembered as a death in the industry.

@sapphirexwind

4 жыл бұрын

It wasn't just because of his death...it may have brought light to the issue...but it was something that needed to be shown regardless, expecially in the cases of the beatings.

@nelledoingthings6768

4 жыл бұрын

I agree i felt like it was poor taste to do that especially when us fans know he was very depressed but then i agree with the other comments too because no telling what they do to others idols predebut in those huge entertainment companies too😞

@jillianjacques4190

4 жыл бұрын

@@nelledoingthings6768 He was depressed to such a terrible extent because the companies leave no room to breathe let alone take care of their mental health. I understand that as a fan people might be disheartened to remember him in that way, but I still think it's important to highlight these issues in a media format that is more accessible to the mass market in the west. People want to know what's going on and honestly, a similar argument could be made against only highlighting the great and fantastic things about his career. It's a fine line between forgetting about abusive environments and only remembering the abuse. It seems it's a two-way street, however. I just hope mental health gets better representation in the future.

@carolinepark

4 жыл бұрын

yeah and it felt really weird to show it right as they were talking about "idol hopefuls" when he was so much more than that

when a seven year old is more confident for an audition as a kpop idol than i am for a role in a play

@arinyugrass

4 жыл бұрын

loizerz Ikr ? 😅

@viviantran7063

4 жыл бұрын

9ine 6ix I wasn’t confident as a kid...

@alitiajoseph235

4 жыл бұрын

@@viviantran7063 me either😳

@brown_skin_lover_queen5790

3 жыл бұрын

She is so dang cute just wait when she is 13 I hope everything is the same as now

Not all companies are like this but the fact that many are is disgusting

@Ewerton2705

4 жыл бұрын

OT7RM Acept the reality,please for your idols. The truth must exposed..

@jokersucksatpoker6451

4 жыл бұрын

No, all of them are terrible

@UniquelyParis

4 жыл бұрын

JokerSucksAtPoker Not all of them. Some of them actually treat their idols like the humans they are. Most of them treat their trainees like robots and slaves.

@brown_skin_lover_queen5790

3 жыл бұрын

Psy label is one of the best if u ask me

@Skinnerville

3 жыл бұрын

@@jokersucksatpoker6451 I think he/she was trying to say that not all companies are AS bad as this one

not all kpop companies are like this, but the fact that smaller companies are and think that they can get away with it since they’re a small company is wrong. treat your trainees and idols with respect, and maybe you'll get bigger in a positive way. you don't want to be infamous for treating people under your company like shit. that's not how it works. (edit: damn, 1k likes ?? okay, maybe i did say sumn with this comment of mine)

@fabiacosta00

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with your opinion, like you said, no all companies treat the people that trainee to become a kpop idol and get respected for them

@kiepyon1

5 жыл бұрын

I heard the big 3 are like this too

@kiepyon1

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe jyp is nicer

@Bella-po8vh

5 жыл бұрын

@@kiepyon1 actually usually big companies are more secure, not only success wise and safety wise, because they have a reputation to secure and many ears, news of serious abuse can get out easily while shady small companies can get away with a lot..so big companies usually dont do stuff like The East Light's or BAP's company's abuse.

@IMMMMMKEWLLLIO

5 жыл бұрын

@@Bella-po8vh uhm no. ive heard first hand crazy stories from trainees from the biggest of companies. they are all like this. no news stories about abuse will ever get out into the public and they know it.

The fact that they got so excited because of how much weight they lost is so sad.

@arinyugrass

4 жыл бұрын

A brunch of my friends are like that too honestly...people want to be skinny in general sadly

11 year old is still a little behind by a child who started 5 years old?! Woah the kpop industry is approaching younger children 0__o

@me9981

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly...they probably do that because it's easier to influence younger children based on their dreams...which they crush as soon as they sign a contract 😔

@revelbangtanexo2642

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr it's so sad to see these children are getting worked up by their parents to be an idol in the future, they deserve to enjoy their childhood like other normal children

@lovelyitzylovelytxt4057

4 жыл бұрын

Um heard of JIHYO?

@CutieRingoJoy

4 жыл бұрын

me it’s too young in my opinion

@w_k773

4 жыл бұрын

Mayb they should go auditions right after being born lol

Im sorry but isn't it illegal to hit other people's children??🤔

@sincerelyalina

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't it illegal hitting children in generell?

@qiakjsjsiqajqjii

5 жыл бұрын

I think yes,in my country is illegal, but maybe in Korea is legal

@bb4251

5 жыл бұрын

@@qiakjsjsiqajqjii It is illegal, but the abuser is doing it "secretly", against the law

@qiakjsjsiqajqjii

5 жыл бұрын

@@bb4251 Ok, ty

@thereincarnated4961

4 жыл бұрын

not in Asia

whoever made this documentary obviously doesn't genuinely care about the industry when they reduced jonghyun's death to being a tragedy of being an idol when his depression was so much more than that. im disgusted.

@brooklyntsang4467

4 жыл бұрын

yoongi aesthetic idk I am korean and I believe that being an idol and the difficulties that lifestyle brought absolutely contributed. But yes, himself as a person should not be reduced to be only remembered as a death in the industry.

@k3nnachu

4 жыл бұрын

yoongi aesthetic you obviously know nothing about me Korean culture

@jillianjacques4190

4 жыл бұрын

The documentary is not one about mental health though, and the industry is what impedes people from properly caring for their mental health. So yes, in a way they're right. this isn't a Shinee fan video so... I don't think they need to go into it beyond highlighting how poorly he was treated within the context of idol-company relations and control.

@gtatours1542

4 жыл бұрын

How would YOU know all the facts?? HOW???????????????????

@jillianjacques4190

4 жыл бұрын

@@gtatours1542 me or???

Ok I understand companies want their idols to be skinny but the whole "50kgs or under" thing is so stupid and extremely unhealthy like most kpop idols are 5'3ft or taller and the minimum healthy weight for a 5'3ft tall female 48kg, therefore, trying to make them way less especially by using those extreme diets is killing the poor girls to an extent and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if ex-trainees were still conscious about their weight after they left the company

Jonghyun wasn’t an idol hopeful or an idol he was an artist

@Happyfish5678

4 жыл бұрын

They call them idols and not artists for a reason. All their passion and soul is sucked right out of them and sold.

@girIfromtheinternet

3 жыл бұрын

@@Happyfish5678 do you even know anything about jonghyun 😭

I saw the east light live on a music show because I really liked them. I found them looking sad but i thouht it was because they were not really famous so it was becaue of it. when i learned about this, it really made me see things differently and be less naive. I hope that this kind of treatment will stop being considered as normal in the kpop industry

15:23 sounds like something you’d hear in a cult

This is disgusting, don’t use Jonghyun’s death or SHINee and shawols grieve to fit your agenda. Jjong’s depression stemmed from his traumatic childhood, he was fighting this deliberating condition for many years and his legacy doesn’t deserve this disrespect.

@anoukr.7505

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was disgusted when I saw this...

@sapphirexwind

4 жыл бұрын

Y'all act like you knew him personally. But as someone looking in from the outside, you can only speculate as to the complex reasons. Childhood including the kpoop industry, no?

@wavzone

4 жыл бұрын

i have no doubt the kpop industry had a role to play in his death, as well. reasons for things like suicide arent so clear cut, it can be tons of different things. the kpop industry is ruthless, so i dont doubt it played a role. idk how this is disrespect? SM didn't help him at all- had they, im still not sure it would've changed anything, but they didnt. yes he had issues beforehand, but something as stressful and shitty as the kpop industry 100% played a huge part in his mental health as well.

@mell4248

4 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why so many people are mad a the documentary for "using" Jonghyun's death. What's your point? What agenda? Denouncing the industry for being abusive to their idols? Are you saying that isn't true now? Everybody knows mental health is a lot more complex but the focus here is on the abuse of your beloved idols. Whether or not Jonghyun had issues before, the industry certainly played a huge role in feeding into it. Which is even worse, taking advantage of someone who was already mentally fragile. This is incredibly sad that we still need to wait for someone to die to be alarmed but that's how it is, we're seeing it again with Sulli. But if that at least can bring some light to those issues, I don't see the problem in doing so.

@jkp5139

4 жыл бұрын

Jonghyun died coz his solo albums flopped.

I have always wanted to become an kpop idol but after watching all of these im just so scared for myself.

@StarFeather

4 жыл бұрын

Jammy K :,( it’s a sad reality to consider

@sammiee1894

4 жыл бұрын

These companies are so fucked. The chances of making it are so slim, I wouldn't put myself through it, plus debt.

@user-om9od1sp7n

4 жыл бұрын

Not all company like this only small companies

@plus1ren

4 жыл бұрын

Yo- not all companies are like that, this is a bad documentary to watch if your thinking about going into the industry.

@finn8668

4 жыл бұрын

I want to be a kpop idol as well, you just have to look into the companies you're considering, bigger companies would not be like smaller ones and likely to treat trainees better!

It’s not easy, in the outside all you see is the love and popularity but some fans are too blind to see that these people are abused .

@fgh3618

4 жыл бұрын

michellexoramos piont on.............how can people love and spend on this twisted industri

video: welcome to the wOrld of kpOp me: I already jimined in

@Shimmysoup

4 жыл бұрын

ARMYYY Also so true

@avvrgtpg

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shimmysoup *virtual hug*

@yesiamanarmy5910

4 жыл бұрын

You dont have to say "in"

@avvrgtpg

4 жыл бұрын

@@yesiamanarmy5910 I know, I was just too lazy to correct my mistAke, so thanks

@femboysandtomboysplsdmme3458

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you guys know the dark world of kpop especially for the newer ones it’s not a unicorn life with chocolate bars

The rewards aren’t even good. They have no input in their music, and and crazy schedules. The only thing they might get is money and fame but even that can be taken away in a heartbeat.

When they showed Jonghyun’s photo I had to look away, you don’t know how hard I’ve tried to avoid any single video of his funeral, out of respect and emotion

Being a kpop idol is like being in the military or being an athlete. The road to what we love to watch is not easy lets keep supporting our idols they work really hard

You not supposed to force a person to do the splits! If you can't do it you can't and if you wanna learn practice everyday but don't force yourself! You will end up hurting yourself

@ash-tr3jx

5 жыл бұрын

nah my friends do professional dance practice in hopes of making into a good dance college and forcing splits is the only way someone would improve at some point.

@vonnielaurence8511

5 жыл бұрын

@@ash-tr3jx no not actually. You can get seriously injured. You can't force flexibility.

@ash-tr3jx

5 жыл бұрын

@@vonnielaurence8511 nah you could. the thousands of chinese kids who only learnt dance because they couldnt get into college but then became world class ballet dancers are living proof. if you do it wrong you can get injured but dance instructors are experienced. itll be fine you should try it. i think my legs got longer.

@ash-tr3jx

5 жыл бұрын

@@vonnielaurence8511 i honestly think the korean system is more merciful than the chinese one since it has little to no requirement on actual education (math, language etc) so people can spend their entire lives training

@ash-tr3jx

5 жыл бұрын

@@vonnielaurence8511 plus the test to get into college is much easier

These unfair kpop companies don't understand that fate would probably had never even given them the privilege of having thousands of youth dying to be a part of their company. Yet, they think its normal for them to abuse them...i repeat...abuse. Being critical through words is normal, beating with a baseball bat is not.

I truly believe that it’s morally wrong to let children and young teens join entertainment agencies. Most adults can’t handle it, let alone children..

@TheReMorseCode

4 жыл бұрын

​@@sushilayadav125 We shouldn't allow children to become part of a system that they can't grasp the consequences of yet. They don't understand what they're giving up.

@elmin82

6 ай бұрын

greedy parents that want to sell their children to the industry for money , we have many example also in western industry

The background music just scares me 😖

@holywater9858

5 жыл бұрын

armyyy

@neritaanne

5 жыл бұрын

I think here most people are kpop fans

20:42 THAT’S FUCKING RUDE WTF IS THAT?? THIS IS BRUTAL! Being a trainee is crushly insane yeah i love kpop but i appreciate the idols who stand this brutal system...

When their dad had to show the picture of their injuries :(((((

They have absolutely NO right in using Jonghyuns death like that. They are merely using it for dramatic effect. That's low.

@anoukr.7505

4 жыл бұрын

That's just disgusting...

@jillianjacques4190

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no, they're representing mental health issues and how they're not taken seriously within the industry and Korea in general. How terrible. This documentary isn't made for people acclimated to the k-pop community, it's meant for people who don't know much about it and is written from a journalistic perspective about the industry subjectively.

@bkknight

4 жыл бұрын

Overacting garbage u all kpop idolizers

They cheer eachother on for being underweight... this industry is disgusting. I still support idols though, because I believe they deserve recognition for their hard work. I'm really questioning if it's the right thing to do though...

where is this company? let me become the chairman, because I could do a better job.

@yungrow5573

4 жыл бұрын

The East Light is managed by Open World Entertamnet. You can watch Chaennie Lisoo's video on her channel. The series is called "The Worst Entertament Companies".

@HelloKittysFriend418

4 жыл бұрын

This kind of mindset is exactly why there are so many companies out there right now lol, and so many of them turn out to be horrible. Kind of ironic

This is random but I see a lot of idols practicing with their hair down. Even these trainees don't put their hair up. Surely tying it up would make the movements neater and the trianers could actually see their facial expressions. Idk. Something I've just noticed.

@user-vw5vf5pe3r

3 жыл бұрын

The trainees need to get used to their hair down because during the performance girls are more likely to have their hair down as well. If you watch idols' live performances you will notice that almost nobody has the hair up.

The East Light 😢💞

@cutie511

4 жыл бұрын

I'm soo sorry for them...I hope Everything goes well

Say whatever you like about following dreams or whatever, but to be exposed to such an industry at the age of less than ten, where you're at risk of being exploited, abused, etc and most of all just being exposed to the real adult world, is not normal and should not be encouraged. These kids are at an age where dreams can change constantly, sure some stick with what they wanna be for life which is great but they're closing the windows of opportunities and experiences far too early and it's honestly really sad. They should be exploring the big world at their own pace and will, not being rushed into it in possibly one of the worst ways possible. It's just sad how companies opt for these kids because of the whole age thing :(

The fact that these are small companies. It is never ok to treat trainees/ people/children/teens like that.

Thanks for the video ^^ continue pls 💕💕

As someone who had been a fan of SHINee and Jonghyun since 2008, I have to keep reminding everyone that Jonghyuns problems were more complex and personal. Majority of his issues had very little to do with idol life. Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, to look at his career as a cause of his passing just turns a blind eye to Koreas suicide crisis and how there is a much worse, deep rooted issue that effects many koreans as well as they effected him.

Star Road Entertainment is a small entertainment. I feel bad for the trainees :,(

The fact that one of the people of east light were in produce x 101

@natalial9131

4 жыл бұрын

Who?

Okay, why'd you put that clip of jonghyun here?

Why did you put jonghyun in here when his depression had nothing to do w/ his job & he spoke about how he's struggled w/ it long before he was an artist

that background music scares me....

saying that it is "pushing Kpop hopefuls to the.." and putting videos from Jonghyun's funeral/crying fans at the same time...or well in general was a bad choice on their part. Jonghyun was (in my opinion) the king of Kpop he worked hard and made it he wasn't a 'Kpop hopeful' he was a 'Kpop idol/kpop king'. Jonghyun was suffering from mental health it was more than Kpop and was way later in his career. Them putting him in this documentary shouldn't have been done. I remember that day, it was one of the worst days of my life. Having to relive it and watch as shawls cry hit home all over again.

I really want to become an idol even watching this hasn't turned me off the dream but seeing how hard it is breaks my heart but I honestly will try hard if that dream of being a foreign idol will ever come true

Please don’t use the image of Jonghyun as a poster boy for your documentary supposed to denounce k-industry’s mistreatment. That is not what happened with Jonghyun, before speaking please try to get your facts right and we would like this to stop. And please include trigger warnings when you show images of violence, abuse. some people can be very affected.

@jillianjacques4190

4 жыл бұрын

andi mace He was depressed to such a terrible extent because the companies leave no room to breathe let alone take care of their mental health which is what they were specifically highlighting with this documentary. I understand that as a fan people might be disheartened to remember him in that way, but I still think it's important to highlight these issues in a media format that is more accessible to the mass market in the west and because this isn’t a fan video it’s going to present this information in a way that feels disconnected to the human experience behind the events, but this isn’t made with the intent to draw in fans. It’s simply a journalistic approach to covering a real issue. People want to know what's going on and honestly, a similar argument could be made against only highlighting the great and fantastic things about his career. It's a fine line between forgetting about abusive environments and only remembering the abuse. It seems it's a two-way street, however. As far as trigger warnings go, I agree coming from your perspective immediately, but the more I think about it the more integral mental health and industry awareness seems, more so than people being triggered. I had to sit through worse documentaries in high school. You can walk away from the computer I can’t walk away from my mental health is basically my point and the internet, especially parts of the internet talking about death and mental health isn’t a place for people in recovery and who are still too sensitive in the first place. (Speaking from experience) It’s kind of like having a fractured ankle but deciding to run a marathon. Yeah you can probably run it but when you’re on the ground in crippling pain don’t yell at the event because you chose to run the race despite already knowing your condition. Not knowing there was going to be a hill doesn’t really justify running on a fractured ankle.

@katexy7179

4 жыл бұрын

This documentary is just disrespectful on too many levels... it shows little to no trying to understand how the industry functions. Almost as if it only focuses on showing bad sides of it. No mentions of some of the idols' successes or whole debut thing, but just too focused on bad sides? I'm not really that much of a kpop fan, but I'm a foreigner in the US and I find this xenophobic

does jung do want to be a kpop idol or the mom? It feels like those toddlers & tiaras moms..

Unrelated but did anyone notice that the girls were practicing Boombayah by Blackpink?

@shellyfiggs5700

5 жыл бұрын

why does it matter-

@yanlu7729

5 жыл бұрын

That’s why I said unrelated

@YukimiSD

4 жыл бұрын

"Oh this guy died.... Sob sob... Oh wooooow! did you notice this group practice blackpink?" Sounds like this. Even if you noticed that, do you really think it was smart to write this? All thoughts are not good to share. Just to get some ''likes'' of heartless/brainless people as you, good behave. Sad people.

@kimmyseon46

4 жыл бұрын

@@YukimiSD is it wrong to notice things and also he wasn't asking for like

@YukimiSD

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimmyseon46 in the moment he asked if someone noticed, yes it was a "like bait". And read again, it's not wrong to notice things. It's wrong to write this senseless. Keep it in your mind and respect death. It would look like the same if he said it loud on funeral... It's disrespectful and heartless.

Omg the splits on the wall is a killer they did that to us in our dance college it wrecks

@FuryanJedi13

3 жыл бұрын

My sensei did that when I did karate, but he never pushed us that far! Increasing your flexibility needs to be done gently and gradually, one small bit at a time.

Some Koreans really should take a chill pill. There are so many toxic people in that world.

Heartbreaking to hear eastlight members story

I am so proud of the eastlight for opening up. They made many people realize that sometimes, companies are simply shady.

I would never subject my child to this.

This is why I can’t be a fan of kpop groups 😣 I have nothing against them or their fans, but the fact that the whole industry is like factories when sometimes they get tortured...It’s horrible to me

When making a kpop documentary please do not include the funeral of our ShinEE members, they have lost one, please do not include these clips

OMG "StOp uSinG JongHyUn hEre" You do realise that even though you think his depression was not caused by his job it has to do with it right? And it just to showcase an example of the state of mental health in that industry and in Korea overall.

almost late july in 2019, n stil no dislike at all ♥️

My blood started boiling at the very start when they used Jonghyun's death simply as an example to bash kpop.

The fact they celebrated being underweight😭

I thought the dance school was called 'death dance school' when I first heard them say it

I feel bad for Mizuho, I wonder how sad her parents are😥

I don't understand how people think it is worth being an idol if it means going through all this and harming both your body and mental health or how they parents even accept this. Not even all trainees end up as idols. The lack of food, sleep, resting and being told you are not good enough makes trainees get anorexia and depression. They way trainees are being treated need to be illegal. The KPOP industry is sickening. Both trainees and Idols need to be treated with respect and as humans, not robots.

Let kids be kids. If they want to become a good dancer or singer, let them train those talents on the side. It shouldn't take up their entire lives. These kids are literally born into an industry and it seems like their entire existence is based off whether or not they'll make it in the future.

If you have to pay for the training you are getting ripped off they should pay for your dancing ,vocal, accomodation, housing, styling and even for your school also,but you have to return there money once you debuted.

@Therealprincess95

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it works that way but then the idols end up in debt and they cant pay it off and even if they do they'd be happy to break even.

Star road has always been abuse to there idols and trainees

It's crazy how they do all this stuff and I'm over here being sad and depress Ed about highschool

the moment, i saw jonghyun i paused this video for a half an hour, before resuming

It's a shame that this trainees work so hard for so little in return. It's crazy how they choose these small companies that have no chance of topping the charts. But there is always hope since GFriend and BTS both came from small companies but ended up becoming household names. Still, I don't understand why they would choose these unknown companies of all those out there. Their best bet would be choosing a bigger company like JYP who actually takes care of its trainees pretty well. I could understand if you don't get in, but there's no harm in trying, right? If I were them, I auditioned for the biggest companies first and work my way down. I'm not saying that the big companies don't treat their trainees bad too, but their chance of success when debuting would be much, much higher and worth a lot more than anything this small (and abusive) companies have to offer.

So exploitive. Hollywood is likely similar the kpop industry just seems much more blatant about it.

OMG!!!!! No wonder The East Light hasn't released anything lately!!! Makes me so sad and mad!!! 😡😡😡😭😭😭😭 #JusticeforEastLight ✊✊

Kinda gross seeing all these people making excuses for this industry which obviously is overworking these people and not treating them like human beings. If you truly love these idols you should care about their health and these companies being exploitative and treating them poorly. If you really love these people then accept the cold reality that a lot of them could be being abused. You making excuses or denying that they are suffering only helps the problem continue.

Realmente, o bagulho é tenso. Quase chorei quando mostraram a parte do funeral do Jonghyun

This was my dance studio in korea ! They are the best people I met in korea !

I cried all along... I feel helpless against this new form of slavery... What can we even do against that?

Who else tried to skip that ad? 😂😂😂

Here is the thing. Companies train kids to mold them right?? Then their individuality practically almost disappears. And what the public wants is individuality... Sooo... Does anyone here see a flaw

knowing how the kpop industry work, can't believe that some parent want let their children becaming an idol ..

i love singing and dancing honestly would go through those hard training for me it's worth it but i'm just too old now (16) usually they debut in that age already

@oneirodynia8863

4 жыл бұрын

Well, any age is good to debut~ Some idols have debuted in their early to late twenties~^^ (like Shownu from Monsta X)

@oneirodynia8863

4 жыл бұрын

@@florafaye Yeah, that's true, but it doesn't hurt to audition since a lot of people just do it for fun or for the experience~

This and plus all the hate some idols get

Omg i felt goosebumps, we dont know what these companies do. Maybe they are doing stuffs like this but maybe not. If they are doing these things, they are so worse. I hope they dont do these things. I hope idols are good.

The people calling this not respectfull should thing 2ice. This has to be shown. People die because of this sick k pop pressure. Thank God for this documentary

Not all companies do that.... This documentary should have shown both side... The good and bad.....

SAD....they don ‘t prepare them for any of the fan-fair that goes along with this stuff.

This is besides anything but what’s the song at the beginning it’s a bop 😂

these people are working much harder than YG is.

It's crual Kpop will let that

Nothing more disgusting then K-pop fans defending the industry and pretending they care about the victim.

This made me scared to become a Kpop idol, plus even if I would be one I would be a foreigner. I would rather be my own star.

7:58 ayyyy Daz where mah jisung's dream started😅

@arsoakkaya

4 жыл бұрын

Is he famous now?,

Wow the CEO’s name is Kim Taehyung

@Skinnerville

3 жыл бұрын

And?

@sisnsksmshskxnxkmbsm7082

3 жыл бұрын

@@Skinnerville and it’s the same name as Kim taehyung from bts

@Skinnerville

3 жыл бұрын

@@sisnsksmshskxnxkmbsm7082 that's not relevant

@sisnsksmshskxnxkmbsm7082

3 жыл бұрын

@@Skinnerville ik but its cool

@Skinnerville

3 жыл бұрын

@@sisnsksmshskxnxkmbsm7082 your comment in a nutshell: oh no! They got assaulted. oH lOoK, tHe CeO hAs ThE sAmE bIrThNaMe As V

7:13 his mom is a better mentor than most companies. That's actually sad to think about 🙍

"being a Kpop trainee might be the hardest thing"... Talk a a top tier ballet dancer and then get back to me on that. I feel sorry for the girl though... Star Road are not much of an agency... I think their only group has been D.Holic, and it's not like they set the world on fire. being with a small agency isn't much fun in kpop.

drama

why jonghyun appeared in that documentary? im not even a fan but i felt bad.. im crying rn wth

This makes me freaking sad

when will people stop using jjong for their own personal agenda or to prove the industry is shitty? jjong is WAY more than what happened and way more than that. please actually talk about his OUTSTANDING talent and how he’s the best singer of the industry and produced 90% of his music sometimes??? not to mention he had depression even before becoming an idol. he was very open about his struggles and putting this on the industry is really alienating. depression is way more complex than that, sometimes there’s not even a cause, sometimes there are multiple causes, but speculating and putting the blame on the industry is the worst thing people can do. it doesn’t bring awareness whatsoever it just reduces and minimize people’s struggles. instead of putting the blame on something/someone or searching for a cause, maybe take care of your loved ones who are struggling because this is the only thing you can do. fuck this documentary and fuck everyone willing to reduce jjong’s entire struggle to an industry when he loved what he was doing, he loved his job and he loved music. don’t speculating and stop using him for the love of god. he deserves way better than that. he deserves that we talk about his music.

@anoukr.7505

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody could have said it better nobody can know exactly what was going on in his mind but after all he was quite open about his depression and it's not just because of being an idol... He did great and I'm so happy that I had the chance to listen to his art but I'm sure he's in a better place now

i cried at jonghyun's part..is that normal?

Sm had a role in sulli's death. She asked them for help and they didnt give it to her so RIP to the both of them.

He said if we weren't good end, he would hit us

Nvm I will just remain in my chruch choir, I alr have Low self esteem myself

who even is star road ent

these kind of an industry is the devil's playground...all for money and fame these kids are selling their future and soul to the world not thinking the costs of their sacrifices ...its heart breaking...

Until the trainees and idols organize into some entity that will take THEIR side on an equal basis with the companies, this will continue. Laws need to be passed and enforced. Political pressure has to be applied. One would think it would be already a policy that abuse of children will not be tolerated, but such is not the case. Money is involved and the victims have been threatened and beaten into silence. Only if they organize and present a united front will they be given much attention. But who will step forward? If you speak out now, you will just be fired. So you stay silent. Someone in power needs to step up and help these kids. I think a bunch of retired idols need to go before the National Assembly and tell their story. The companies will fight back and try to silence even this group. Look at the comments here from KPOP fans who want to see the abuse continue. It will be very difficult to change this attitude.

Jonghyun didn't deserve to die I wish he was not a kpop idol so he would live a normal lifeand be happy