It’s ironic that they both killed their mother because they wanted freedom but ended up with the least amount of freedom possible with a life behind bars.

@shrapnel77

Жыл бұрын

Teenagers have an immortality complex. They probably thought their stupid plan would work and if they were caught, could play the innocent, hurt child routine.

@biancapierce639

Жыл бұрын

They could have just run away.

@thijsjong

Жыл бұрын

@@biancapierce639 No they wanted to live with their grandmother. And running away would leave them homeless. They would leave school that was their source for all kinds of attention. They attended prom after the murder. Their mother was an inconvenience to them. I bet they did not even consider her human.

@LisaAnn777

Жыл бұрын

It's a tragedy.

@rachelgooden9981

Жыл бұрын

And separated

I’m glad they were sent to separate prisons.

They didn't want to follow any rules. Now they are in prison, where there are plenty of rules.

@BrendaBaBoom

Жыл бұрын

HARD TIME. It’s called learning the hard way.

I know they must be sitting in jail thinking “living with mom wasn’t so bad after all.” This is horrible.

I'm not certain that 30 years in prison is enough for these twins.

@mihali9655

Жыл бұрын

If it were Australia they would get 5 years if that.

@Dulcimertunes

Жыл бұрын

Since 30 years does NOT mean 30 years

@jayuhoo4806

Жыл бұрын

they should have gotten 45 years same as the number of stab wounds they inflicted on their mom

@420noscopesonlylol6

Жыл бұрын

@@mihali9655 Same with Canada

@gabrielleandrew542

2 ай бұрын

@@mihali9655unfortunately the Australian judiciary is an embarrassment.

I saw this on Dateline and other true crime series. The reason the girls killed their mom was because with their great grandmother they were allowed to do anything they wanted. Even to seeing 30 plus year old men. The girls grandmother (the mother of their mother) was unhappy that they only received thirty years. She wanted them to get life in prison. 🙄

@cajuncat1305

Жыл бұрын

their grandmother didn't want to get killed. smart move lol

@BrendaBaBoom

Жыл бұрын

Those girls were apparently demonic.

@janinemccartha1811

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dr. Grande. This is a terrible case of childhood neglect & mental/physical domestic abuse that could have been prevented. Drugs & alcohol were the main problem in this situation. Everyone is different although a good parent would've gotten their kids into some type of therapy. Psychonarcs do not have empathy & there feelings are none. Prayers go out to all for a better, brighter being. Enjoy being & have good emotions & you'll never lose in life. Love, Janine Smiley😏🤩😍😎😀🐼🐾🍐🥥🎂🍫🍯🥧☕🍩☕🎂☕🍯🐼🐾🦓🦄🆒️🇺🇸🇬🇧🏡🎡🎢🌝🌞🌚🌜🌛🌠🏡🎠🚘

@MsSwitchblade13

Жыл бұрын

@@janinemccartha1811 you're replying to someone's comment and now on the regular comment section where Dr Grande can see it

@tlc6756

Жыл бұрын

Interesting that the mother hooked up with a man 30 years older too. Sounds like several generations of a pretty dysfunctional family.

I always enjoy your dry humor (e.g. “it’s not all bad, their prayers were answered”)

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

Right! Me too.

@jeanash9502

Жыл бұрын

Profound,,,, explained so well of horrendous crime

This reminds me of a Tshirt my friend's mother used to wear. It said, "Mothers of teenagers KNOW why animals eat their young."

@bthomson

Жыл бұрын

L D - They missed the bonding that can help get over the teenage rebellion. But DNA did seem to be against them as well as the grandmother's leniency.

nikki had the same emotional maturity as the girls. history repeats itself. the grandmothers' permissive parenting and the lack of maternal bonding are a huge factor. the girls likey saw her more of a hateful sibling than a parent (what happens when you let your parents/grandparents raise your children)

@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki

Жыл бұрын

GENETICS. Zero empathy is a genetic based issue. Science today can probably even identify the gene: a lot of this shows up when puberty HITS. The chemical change hits hard.

@Hilz28

Жыл бұрын

Ya, and probably some inter-generational trauma going through all those households. Something else has to have happened (besides puberty and teenaged rebellion) in between them being "polite and respectful" to murdering their mother. The Mom was definitely far from perfect, and who knows what the twins were subjected to while in the womb? With birth? Surprised these factors weren't at least considered as possibilities.

@corinnefogarty7880

Жыл бұрын

Not all grandparents are like that, there are many that step up and change the lives of their grandchildren for the better.

@hollydaugherty2620

Жыл бұрын

@@corinnefogarty7880 The point isn’t the grandparent’s parenting style but the effect that grandparents raising their grandchildren has on the kids relationship to their actual parents. It does change the dynamic drastically.

@Meela234

11 ай бұрын

@@hollydaugherty2620 I agree. Allowing others to raise your children makes it hard for the parents to step back in and try to establish rules and boundaries later on. The bio parents are no longer seen by the child as the one who can tell them what to do after much time has passed of not being around to parent them. It does not sound like it in this video, but their grandmother raised them for the majority of their lives. Nikki tried to take over years later and it was too late by then.

What an absolute mess. The no boundaries concept was passed from mother to children. They will come out of prison much worse and far more dangerous.

Where is the father? Why do grandmothers always get saddled with the responsibility of raising the grandkids?

@tanikokishimoto1604

Ай бұрын

Maybe Pappa was unsuitable as a father and uninterested in the kids.

@cactusitude

Ай бұрын

Men can't be bothered, so women get stuck with the burden

@Westlakegal1

Ай бұрын

@@tanikokishimoto1604

@blinkypushbuttons

28 күн бұрын

Bc no one trusts the duds

What a phenomenon, DNA as you pointed out re: Nikki's behavior as a teenager, and now the twins; two identical psychopaths--freakin' scary. Wonder what will happen when they get out of prison.

@Dulcimertunes

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully NOT have children!

@tlc6756

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they won't have children

@tasmeenbaker9912

Ай бұрын

​@@tlc6756 Honestly who tf would wanna have kids with them? They look chopped af now, their horrible reputation and they'll be 46 by the time they get out and I'm pretty sure no man in the right mind would want a middle aged woman who wasted her youth in prison.

She was actually alive when they dragged her into the bathtub. When they confessed they said she said "kill me now or I'll kill yall." Then she went under the water a few times and was gone. So sad her last moments were knowing she gave birth to her killers. They even stabbed her multiple times in the stomach. Just sick.

@TheDramacist

Жыл бұрын

Dont believe the last words. The twins would obviously say this as part of their defence.

@SunkissedPeony

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDramacist true

@yt_fluffyplays7565

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheDramacist that's not the complete truth. I watched an actual documentary on csi and the day on when the girl confessed in 2014 they said nikki came home drunk the day she got killed on roughly 3 or 4 am the girls asked her please let us sleep a few hours later a 6am nikki woke up still drunk grabbed a pot/vase then started waving it hitting the girls with it the girls said stop she started calling them whores hoes bitches and stuff then the girls went to the kitchen for breakfast and nikki picked up a knife then started provoking them with it so technically it was nikkis fault 50% she made the girls snap but it was also the girls fault 50% because they could of stopped stabbing her 80 times.

@yt_fluffyplays7565

Жыл бұрын

​@@SunkissedPeony that's not the complete truth. I watched an actual documentary on csi and the day on when the girl confessed in 2014 they said nikki came home drunk the day she got killed on roughly 3 or 4 am the girls asked her please let us sleep a few hours later a 6am nikki woke up still drunk grabbed a pot/vase then started waving it hitting the girls with it the girls said stop she started calling them whores hoes bitches and stuff then the girls went to the kitchen for breakfast and nikki picked up a knife then started provoking them with it so technically it was nikkis fault 50% she made the girls snap but it was also the girls fault 50% because they could of stopped stabbing her 80 times.

Honestly, the neighbor most likely knew their family was problematic and didn’t want to be bothered.

@PC4ever

Жыл бұрын

He was probably used to hearing them yell and scream all the time. They are teenagers.

@andykerr3803

Жыл бұрын

Pretty obvious yhr mother was a weirdo as well. He might of thought the bf was involved. I also would not open the door. It must have been a zoo, especially at that time.

This case is so shocking. I can't imagine the horror of your children turning into a pair of wild animals and killing you.

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah especially if it was zebras or something.

@maureeningleston1501

Жыл бұрын

@@eadweard. 🤣😂🤣

@tlc6756

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately Mom set the stage by engaging in physical fighting with them before.

@mariaobrien8228

Ай бұрын

Maureeningleston. Really and I can’t as a parent imagine dumping my kids on their grandparents to raise. Having a partner and a 2nd partner when he’s out of town 😅😅 great Carole model this woman was

@mariaobrien8228

Ай бұрын

Role model meant

Dr Grande I just need to let you know how amazing your commentary and delivery is. I so appreciate you!!! GOD Bless 🙏

@feleciaclemons5074

Жыл бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

@Eliane544

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Thank you for so many cases! I like to hear your comments , very well delivered👍

They wanted freedom, but didn't get it. The names she gave them are a problem, but that's no reason for murder.

This is a sad and terrifying case. I can’t imagine how Nikki felt in her last moments, knowing her own kids were killing her. Just horrible.

@cherylcaardillo1702

Жыл бұрын

Crying sooooo Horrible

This case to me is terryfizing, imagining Nikki trying to escape her daughters and fight them while they kill her, then they go on with their life like nothing happened. Dr Grande...I wonder if perhaps their Sociopathy & Psychopathy comes from their mother? As a psychologist, I'd have love to study them, its so rare to get identical twins that become killers, especially girls. Glad that they were separated and put in different prisons.

@terenarosa4790

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek i think it would be nice if it were a tv show and we could watch them.

@ichabodcrane9479

Жыл бұрын

@@terenarosa4790 they would just revel in the attention. It may even cause copycat killers. Other teens looking for notoriety.

@cheryl2103

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek Nice ???

@galenztwo

Жыл бұрын

@Evanthebat15 Not good that a psychologist doesn’t listen well, he said they did inherit those traits from their mother.

@allydea

Жыл бұрын

I am wondering, and maybe you can answer this question, how come they were so different when they were younger. Is this mental illness trigger later in life by the teens hormones?

Those twins are pure evil their attitude after they were caught was horrific just pure disrespect towards their mother the police and everyone around them I'm so glad they got separated in prison

@BrendaBaBoom

Жыл бұрын

Being [separated] in prison is probably the hardest & most major blow that affects them greatly …. as it should. They gotta “a long hoe to row.”

Dysfunctional relationships gone off the rails into a tragic ending.

Teens rage.....filled with stupidity and so much anger. And the mother never showed a true motherhood.... probably busy focusing on her job and how to pay the bills... Sad story.

@BrendaBaBoom

Жыл бұрын

And she was distracted by male relationships.

@samlsd9711

Жыл бұрын

@@BrendaBaBoom Yes, the worst thing a woman do is bring another man around the kids. My mother refused to get married after our father died and she lived all alone raising us. Sometimes I wish she got married but she knew better. Now growing up and seeing how it affects kids, I know now why she didn't. (In our religion boyfriends are not allowed either.)

Yes my brother tried to kill our mom. They’re both narcissists, she’s covert and always worshipped him, bails him out makes excuses for his abuse of others. She dropped charges (of course) and continues to be codependent with him. Gross and sad.

@sunnycatc6491

Жыл бұрын

I know a few parents like this. They can't see (even after it happens! ) that the narcissistic child will turn on them in a heartbeat; blood ties mean nothing. I hope you're safely far far away from them.

@zuglymonster

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like my exMIL. She'd tell me all the time she'd understand if I left her son, she knows how he is, etc Until I actually did leave him. She suddenly forgot about the time he kicked her door in because his dad didn't put his car stereo in fast enough, or when he held a knife to her throat, or kicked every door in our house off the hinges.......

@violatorut2003

Жыл бұрын

@@zuglymonster what’s a exMIL? I genuinely don’t know.

@cjsparkle100

Жыл бұрын

@@violatorut2003 Ex Mother In Law

@violatorut2003

Жыл бұрын

@@cjsparkle100 oh ty, I assumed it meant ex-military lol

I remember hearing about this. It was so heartbreaking. I can't imagine how betrayed the Mom felt. Kids dont understand how much you love them. All the time and care you put into them. How you fall in love with them, while they are in your tummy. When they are born and before their first birthdays, they must receive at least a thousand kisses from you. All the times you spend looking at them and loving them. Counting their fingers and toes. I'm sure it hurt worse than the knife, to know they had so much hate for her that they killed her. I wonder where it came from?

@annwilliams6438

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not all women feel motherly…

I like how you get to point in your videos saying a lot but not using unnecessary information.

@Violexie-wb7op

Жыл бұрын

Right? It's like an artform to be so concise.

Such a chilling and extremely disturbing case....they're absolute monsters! Had to laugh when you said "It wasn't all bad news for Taz- her prayer was answered." 😅

Parenting seems to have been problematic on all fronts (mother, father, grandmother) I wonder if better parenting from an early age on could have improved or mitigated their personality problems. And could anything have been done if dangerous mental health recognized as children and receiving therapy? Scary shit - as if parents don't have enough to worry about raising children. SMH

@Jen-X333

Жыл бұрын

Therapy is not going to do anything for psychopaths…probably was genetic.

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

I’ve watched and read a lot on this case and she didn’t seem like a terrible mother to me. She should have been more involved in the early stages but when she tried to fix that it was too late. She was always trying to make a better life for them. A lot of it is generational which is why it’s important for parents to self reflect often.

@amimi92

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva Yep the toxic traits being passed from generation to generation were very apparent in this case.

@wpeniche

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva her last words to her kids were “kill be or ill kill you both!”. Pretty sure she was a piece of shit too

@Becki545

Жыл бұрын

Seems some people are abused take it out on themselves while others take it out on others.

What a horrible crime! Thank you Dr. Grande for your expert insights!

I don't blame the neighbor for not answering the door. I don't answer mine if I'm not expecting someone. Usually just door to door solicitors, but could also open the door to home invaders.

@oOIIIMIIIOo

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, no one will invade your home when you are screaming for help. 🙂

I remember this story. Those girls shouldn't have been left to stay with their mom.

@troy3456789

Жыл бұрын

They were not in better hands with the other family member either. They were still going to go to prison no matter what; they would always end up hurting anyone in their presence.

@CarrietheCritic

Жыл бұрын

@@troy3456789 - never mind. Sorry.

@MM-hf6om

Жыл бұрын

The problem was they didn't have an authority figure. Mom was immature and grandma was passive. Don't know where the men were ( dad or granddad)

@shrapnel77

Жыл бұрын

@@troy3456789 Hey, are you from Project Mayhem?

@mustertherohirrim7315

Жыл бұрын

@@MM-hf6om crippin

The world is too unpredictable. I’m glad I’m single for life, no kids, and loving it. What a horrific story.

@panushjo

Жыл бұрын

cope city

@oOIIIMIIIOo

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, someone elses kids can murder you, too. 😄

I just can’t even imagine one of my daughters hurting me in any way whatsoever! The world is losing its mind.

@scottricci5063

Жыл бұрын

It's not losing its mind. It has lost its soul since Cain and Abel.

@HypocritesExposd

Жыл бұрын

This was in 2010. This is nothing new. The world lost its mind long ago.

@daniella8400

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t imagine ever hurting my mom…. I could never!

"Prepare for trouble, and make it double."

Deadpan delivery of a combo of "double" puns. 10/10 performance.

I love the docs humor. its so dry I had to drink a gallon of water to rehydrate

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

I love this

This was a story that I had heard of about three years ago. Until now I had never seen any pictures of the twins, or their mother but I knew the outcome. Upon first hearing of everything leading up to the crime I was hopeful for all of them but this unexpected HORRIFIC event happens and ALL hope disappears.

A great grandmother might be to old to care for 2 teenagers.

@MiguelDLewis

Жыл бұрын

Not if they have a generational curse of teenage fornication and motherhood.🙏🏾✝️🕊

@beverlybalius9303

Ай бұрын

All Grandparents older than 50 should not have custody of Grandchildren. They are too old to take babies and kids.

Yet another genius decision by the courts🙄 4:40 - to be fair to the neighbour, perhaps he had had enough trouble from these neighbours in the past and probably deeply regrets not answering the door now anyhoo, so…yeah.

My sisters were twins. You've got to watch em.. Extremely powerful when acting as a team. No murder as such but really annoying sometimes😄

@colleenv.9540

Жыл бұрын

"were"? I hope nothing bad happened to them.

@oOIIIMIIIOo

Жыл бұрын

I have twin male cousins, their elder brother can tell you, too, what an adventure this is. 😄

@matthewlawrenson2734

Жыл бұрын

@@colleenv.9540 leukemia unfortunatly, one twin out lived the other and is very happy. Life eh..Thank you though!

@matthewlawrenson2734

Жыл бұрын

@@oOIIIMIIIOo anything in stereo packs a punch😊

@rachelgooden9981

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewlawrenson2734 oh no. So sorry to hear that. 😞

What a horrible death, psychologically and physically, the mother suffered, knowing not only she was being killed, but by her daughters. She must have loved them; why else would she want to take on two highly rebellious teen girls. She didn’t want them to wind up pregnant at 17 like she had and limit their futures.

@Aj-michele

Жыл бұрын

If she loved them she shouldn’t ever have been physically violent and found ways or support from classes to be able to be a better and stable parent

@DrewIbarra714

Жыл бұрын

@@Aj-michele thank you for saying this, too many people are willing to see past all the pain these "parents" put their children through just cause they are "trying" now

@Aj-michele

Жыл бұрын

@@DrewIbarra714 Right? But she wasn’t trying, she got custody back and then lost it again because of all the physical fights they’d get in. A judge gave her one last chance, a two week trial period of them all living together again even though the girls were adamant they didn’t want to live with her and within that 2 week period this happened. Supposedly she was trying to hit them with a pot and when one stopped her, she went for a knife and that’s when things escalated.

@mariee.5912

Жыл бұрын

@@Aj-michele horrible case.

@wpeniche

Жыл бұрын

Her last words to them were “kill me or ill kill you both”, yeh sounds like she was an abusive piece of shit

This is sad because this crime wasn't meant to happen. If their motive was simply that they wanted more freedom and to do what they please, it's just sad because had they not made this decision, by now, they both could have had their own lives, their own houses, jobs, and families of their own ... they were 16, and I know at 16 it's hard to imagine life outside your parents, school and siblings -- but 2 more years they would have been adults. They don't even have to visit their mom if they don't want to, once they're adults; so much potential and life skills lost -- for what, teenage angst? Even if there's more to the story, I've heard this motive before --- "they don't let me see my boyfriend"; "I just wanted to have the house to myself" -- FOR WHAT??!? To run around town for a few days with friends you probably won't even know in 5-10 years?? They always get caught, because they're too young to understand how forensics and the justice system works. Most (teens) get caught cause they can never shut up about it --- up to life in prison simply because you hate your said family member(s) and you want to stay up past your bedtime. It blows my mind how lives get destroyed simply because a teenager hates their parents (right now). These girls will never know if the mother they hated as teens, would have become their best friend as adults.

@cajuncat1305

Жыл бұрын

They are psychopaths. Even if they were not behind bars now and enjoying their freedom, they will surely murder someone or some people in the future. As unfortunate as it is, their mother died for the sake of others. At least by being behind bars, it prevents other people from getting hurt.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

A: probably not, but still.

@lisamac8503

Жыл бұрын

I doubt they would have had families,jobs etc They are psychopathic and that does not go away in a few years Many kids including myself did not like the restrictions that my parents placed on me at 16 but I wasn't going to kill anyone over it I was able to figure out that in two years I could do what I wanted These girls were mentally unstable and always will be You are not factoring in the serious mental health issues these girls are sick and sickness such as this is not going to go away

@rachelgooden9981

Жыл бұрын

Deep and profound and TRUE!!!!!!!!

@ludmilamaiolini6811

Жыл бұрын

That’s too much pre frontal cortex activity for people like them

Morning coffee with Dr Grande, thanks doc!

what a sad case. I've sometimes wondered if twins have an increased propensity to the kind of folie a deux departure from wider society's value norms based on their reliance on another self 'just like them' they would trust, so it would be easier to validate each other into delusions or moral horrors.

@mariee.5912

Жыл бұрын

Twins what?? Nope, my brothers are twins and they're lovely. Those twins suffered abandonment and all sort of abuses.

@TheDramacist

Жыл бұрын

Immoral horrors, you mean? I entirely agree with you that THESE twins did have an issue with delusional narcissistic psychopathy. The two had a dangerous code pendency relationship. But do twins in general have this? No, ofc not. It would require a preexisting state of narcissism and/or other personality disorder.

@mariee.5912

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDramacist agree.

Such an interesting situation, I wonder if one of the girls was the ringleader and the other a follower, I suppose we will never know

@emmaphilo4049

Жыл бұрын

They should be studied especially because they are identical twins too. Puts the question of nurture/nature into perspective when it comes to psychopathy and antisocial personnality disorder.

@oOIIIMIIIOo

Жыл бұрын

I think there always is, in any group.

@betsylaughlin8652

Ай бұрын

Yes! There are other instances of twins (yes girls!) killing their mother together. You are on to something. Someone needs to interview them.

Waiting for Grande … this sounds like an interesting one. Let’s do this! Thanks, Grande.

No one deserves to die. But if they got so physical with their mom, it would only become worse as they get older. They showed many times that they don’t want to be around their mother. Full stop. With immature minds, they felt they had no alternative because this person keeps carrying them back home . They likely see the court as something serious too. I did at that age. Sad series of event.

I always hated this story. 😞 They gotta sit in jail forever, and don’t even have their mother to comfort them or talk to them. Foolishness. Their grandmother enabled them too.

Never clicked faster in my life! Thanks for the upload!

This was a case of spoiled kids who didn't like rules and wanted to be adults and my sister used to be this way and it ended her up in jail. Luckily she never killed anyone and has now fixed her life. But I know this when I see it. These girls didn't want rules they wanted to party and I do not blame the mother for this. People need to stop blaming the mother because she didn't deserve to die. She was just trying to be a mother to them for christ sake!

@LDiamondz

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Well said. The mother is not to blame. She loved those kids. If she didn't, she'd have left them with their useless grandmother.

@maliceinwonderland00

Жыл бұрын

@@LDiamondz Exactly its a mothers job to set rules she did nothing wrong.

Alright, the amount of times Dr Grande used the word “double” at the end got me 😂

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

Lol right. He's very punny.

Dr. Grande... This case has always tripped me out.....

As someone who's pretty tight with his parents (particularly my mother, because, c'mon, she's my mom) this is just something so inconceivable. Sucks they got a plea deal, as I can't imagine how if these two decided they could take the life of someone with blood ties, then one would assume taking out someone they had even less of a connection too would be that much easier. Am I wrong in assuming that? Anyway, that's just my take. Another great video doc, keep it up!

@dammar117

Жыл бұрын

Not just someone with blood ties: their mother, who carried them in her womb for nine months and gave birth to them.

@karlepaul6632

Жыл бұрын

@@dammar117 Exactly!👍

It's a tragic story! I feel there are three basic elements to being a good parent. I base it on my own childhood. There needs to be a balance between discipline and love and parents need to be good role models. In this situation it appears the teens had little discipline and they didn't respect their mother based on her lifestyle meaning her having a secondary boyfriend, and as the twins themselves stated their mother's alcohol and marijuana use. They apparently saw it as a double standard. In saying that, to kill ones parent is unimaginable and to stab her 45 times shows extreme hatred and a complete lack of conscience. What they did was pure evil.

when DR GRANDE SAID, I WANT MY MOMMY, I LOST IT, ROFL!!!😇😵‍💫😵😮🙄😊

Great insight Dr Grande and that sense of humor on point as always 🧐☺️

Horrible situation.. so sad. Them girl was lucky to have a mother a d grandma that was good to them and cared for them.

Dr Gande, we had a case in Italy just one year ago, where two adult daughters killer their mother, Laura Ziliani. Maybe it could be interesting

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

Good suggestion

@TheBOG3

Жыл бұрын

Did they say why they killed their mother?

@agostinodublino1387

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBOG3 all began when one of the sisters (27) began a relationship with a self proclaimed opera singer (of course he actually did nothing for work, in his life..) and then this young man started to have sex with the other sister too (19). The future victim, the mother, was a retired traffic warden that saved money for all her life and was finally able to buy some houses to get money from tourists, for rent. The opera singer was able to persuade the two sisters (one worked as physiotherapist, the youngest one was an economics student) that "to wait for the inheritance takes too long" (mainly because he was NOT beneficiary of nothing.. he could not marry both the sisters) so they drugged an herbal tea they served to the mother THE DAY OF THE MOTHER'S DAY and they even made a heart -shaped cake for the victim, then as she fall asleep, they strangled her, with various methods because "she didn't died", then they hide the body in the forest, and right away, the 3 idiots, in a couple of hours they called police, tv and newspapers crying out loud, that "the mother didn't returned from hiking and she was surely injured or dead" (of course everyone was like.. ehm.. WHAT? ..maybe she's just sitting in a diner drinking her coffe or chatting with a friend... why she should be dead?"). Meanwhile before anyone wasn't able yet to find the mother, the "opera singer" (a creepy narcissist, church enthusiast, all selfies and self celebrating) was already gone around every single house owned by the victim, with HIS PARENTS, to ask and collect the rent money... ! Sorry for my poor english and if I remembered some element not precisely, I'm recalling the story just by memory

@sampfancresta930

Жыл бұрын

I feel most sorry for the handicapped innocent sister of the murderers; she lost her mother and caregiver at the hands of her sisters.

@cosmicgirl7288

Жыл бұрын

@@agostinodublino1387 thank you for sharing the story I will look it up!. What disgraceful pieces of garbage!.

Idk if you have analyzed this case. Dr.William Petit in Connecticut It was so horrific the state offered ptsd counseling to the jury.

As soon as I heard the twin’s names I knew this wasn’t going to end well even if they didn’t commit matricide

Look into the case of Martha Ann Johnson. She murdered all four of her children. She killed one each time her husband left her. You can do research in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Thanks for hard work. You are a great teacher.

Talk about grandma (or great grandma i forget which) being permissive. She still absolutely supports these girls and cant wait for them to be released. In fairness she had the inside track on their lives so maybe she understands the reasons why they went full on murder better than anyone.

Besides horrifying… it evoked a question as to whether there is adequate foster “institutions” available for such difficult cases.

Hi, Dr. G! I wasn't aware of the custody issue. It's interesting that you didn't mention that Nikki was employed by law enforcement. I thought, when this occurred, the news stations were reporting that Nikki was a deputy sheriff or similar.

Good Day, Dr. Grande.

Kids these days are scary on a whole new level

@CMarkem

Жыл бұрын

So dramatic

@hydrolito

Жыл бұрын

Too many children are ungrateful and spoiled rotten.

@aaronbirook4367

Жыл бұрын

Who spoiled them? Fairies broke into the parents house at night? Who?

@DameVonBonDaisy

Жыл бұрын

@@CMarkem umm, it's true tho... with mental health being in crisis- and no true sense of identity- yeah- it's dramatic bc it is

@DameVonBonDaisy

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronbirook4367 I don't think it's bc their spoiled that their acting this way- its bc many are growing up without any proper guidance, whether you over parent or under parent, either can be an issue. Kids today seem so weak- one time yelling at them and they will call cps and say that they have been traumatized

Well that was disturbing as hell

@annal7364

Жыл бұрын

Best comment today. 😄

This is why when my kids said they didn't want to go to school, I said o.k. What a story. 👌👌

Unfortunately it's not unheard of that two teenage daughters killed their mother. Search for Linda Andersen, there's even a movie about it with Abigail Breslin as a lead role. Would be nice to see your comparison.

*inserts every creepy twin trope reference*

Had only one of the twins actually committed the murder, they may have been able to get away with it. The identical DNA could have created enough reasonable doubt to convict just one of the twins

@Arizona_lilly

Жыл бұрын

Yep 1 dna they have to prove it

@MM-hf6om

Жыл бұрын

Luminol

@babycakes8434

Жыл бұрын

Then the only one would have scratches and abbrasions on their hands.

@Aj-michele

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, their skin particles and microorganisms on their skin are different. There can also be slight variations within their DNA that happened after the fertilized egg split in two.

@TheBOG3

Жыл бұрын

@@Aj-michele The DNA is identical. Fingerprints can be different in identical twins but how do they check fingerprints on a body?

My daughter bonded with my mother as her mom and even though she called me Mom,she thought of me as her equal until puberty then I became less than equal.i am lucky that she didn't kill me .she is 32 years old now and we don't speak.The only difference between my case and this is that my daughter acted out several after she left home at 17 .not before

I would love to hear about Julie Schnecker , very sad but complex case.

Dr grande you should analyze the Jennette McCurdy case.

As I watch these videos. I can't help but think how narcissist and selfish people can be, today. But were things any different before, when not a hundred years ago large gatherings of people (including families) would delight in torture and lynch for public spectacle. How would you diagnose these spectators and how it might possibly effect their children?

@Arizona_lilly

Жыл бұрын

Yep this has happened do u think they care if babies or children saw. Not at all

@defunctdefunctdefunct

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. A lot of people say “Omg, what has the world come to.” But people have always been like this, now we have little devices in our hands to remind us daily.

@heathernikki5734

Жыл бұрын

@@defunctdefunctdefunct so true

This case chills me to the bone! Evil bitches! That’s all I can say about them. The words sociopath and psychopaths come to mind too. I think they should have gotten life in prison, no possibility of parole. Their mother never had a chance against both of them wanting to kill her! That must have been horrifying for their mother, she absolutely didn’t deserve that! Now they get to spend 30 years in prison (they better not be let out any earlier than that). What a great life they created for themselves. 👿 💔

@blackcherry07

Жыл бұрын

Maybe she called them “bitches” and that’s why they murdered her

@bernicegoldham1509

Жыл бұрын

@@buktomsin there's only two people to blame for her murder.. kind of the overarching point.

@aaronbirook4367

Жыл бұрын

The mom deserved it

@colleenv.9540

Жыл бұрын

@@buktomsin Yes, predominantly blue, with occasional rainbows (I couldn't help my comment, since you used the term overarching). 🌈

@colleenv.9540

Жыл бұрын

OOPS -- sorry buktomsin, Bernice Goldham is the one who used the term "overarching."

I watch ur videos after hectic day at work..they relax me.

Great analysis Dr. Grande, thank you.❤️

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

It's nice to see Dr.Grandes OG peeps like me. The comments section isn't as wonderful as it used to be. Cheers ✌️🇨🇦

Lots of people don't answer their doors. It's not at all uncommon. If someone rings our doorbell I'll check the camera, but not answer unless it's someone I'm expecting.

Thank you Dr, Grande. Thoughtful analysis with several spots of humor. I like that.

thank you for these vids

Always enjoy your humor in these grim stories.

@agostinodublino1387

Жыл бұрын

the treshold 🤣😂🤣🤣

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

✌️🇨🇦

Hello Dr. Grande...I do love your videos and looking at you.... listening to your soft voice with your humor. Its 340 am Thursday morning...catch up time so I start here and go backwards. Thank you.. you're so handsome . 🙋❤️🇺🇸😎

Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️

Thank you again, doctor!

Can you analyze Saul Goodman?

A sane voice in a insane world. Thank you my friend:)

@January.

Жыл бұрын

*an insane

Thank you for educating us.

A sick world we live in!!! They should’ve just been with their dad!!!! There was no need for the murder of their mom!!!!

@bradchervel5202

Жыл бұрын

Dad???

@MiguelDLewis

Жыл бұрын

They probably would've murdered him to, assuming the mom even knew who the dad was. This is why it's so wise to wait until marriage as God commands.

@emmaphilo4049

Жыл бұрын

What dad??? Where

@Arizona_lilly

Жыл бұрын

The dad lives w their mom he was on the road as a trucker that’s why she was having affairs I believe the mom was a trick she kept the old man around but dates other men

@heathernikki5734

Жыл бұрын

@@Arizona_lilly they had an open marriage

Involuntary manslaughter is 30 yrs?! Holy crap. What's the point? It's the same penalty as 2nd degree, even 1st degree murder. ... and, I think that judge made a huge mistake, sending them home 'to see how it goes for 2 weeks.' They really didn't want to go, so they are being moved from their home, put in a home they don't want to be in, and told, if it doesn't work out, they will be moved again. So, he gives them control of their fate, and to get what they want, they have to cause problems. Plus at their age, they need stability. That judge doused them all in gasoline, and put them in a room with a million dollars rigged to the switch of a lighter. Peace

I think when you spoil kids you really do create a monster that will hurt you when they don't get their way. I remember getting slapped for wearing blush as a freshman to school. The thought of slapping my mother back never not ever entered my mind. Really sad story. RIP

Grateful as always for your analysis so we can make some sense out of behavior like this. 👍

Definitely, more intriguing than double-talk! :) Which brings me to the victim's Mother's "contribution" to that messy set-up. Why go back to her? For an aged person - she's hardly the 'right guardian' - as may have a couldn't care less attitude? By "allowing" them freedom, when the Mother's doing the extreme opposite, it's saying something already. Also, there already were domestic disturbance calls in between. The court should have noted this 'apathy' and assessed the situation.

@shrapnel77

Жыл бұрын

As a teacher for 25 yrs, I have seen situations like that quite often. Grandparents are forced into parenthood again and are tired and exhausted. They have little control over the grandchildren. Believe me, if the grandmother started being strict with those two devils, she would have been another victim.

I saw this case on ID or twins that kill and they did not explain the case as well as Dr Grande. I look forward to all of your videos and I like them ALL. You are a brilliant scientist!!

@annwethenorth

Жыл бұрын

I love these comments from his fans 💝 it's nice to see the OG Grande fans like me. Cheers ✌️🇨🇦

Thanks Dr. Grande. I always found this case interesting. Cheers ✌️🇨🇦

Thank you for this great presentation….

How do we stop the cycle of violence? What do we do for maladaptive human beings transmitting issues to their kids? .... Seems like there is no solution.

@colleenv.9540

Жыл бұрын

Is anyone else watching "highlights" of the Cruz trial? I'm purposively not watching the entire thing -- VERY traumatic.

@emmaphilo4049

Жыл бұрын

@@colleenv.9540 Oh no that's horrible, I don't think it'll be good for my mood to watch this.... I alreadu watch enough true crime!

Just sad and horrifying

Oh Dr.Grande you know how to analyze ideas. Thank You.

It’s not *so* unheard of. Two Canadian sisters also killed their mother, just as heartlessly as these two.

One messed up kid? That's life, stuff happens. Two messed up kids?: It's fair to say she wasn't a good mom. I feel bad for her, but I get the feeling she had a part in agitating her kids to go this far.

@smallmevt

Жыл бұрын

They wanted to smoke & steal and have sex !!! They didn’t like rules… their was rules in the mother House….. they didn’t like that … like most teenagers they get a little taste of sex and drugs they think they’re grown and nobody should tell them nothing!!!

@adayinforever

Жыл бұрын

@@smallmevt some people should just not become moms I'm sorry.

@adayinforever

Жыл бұрын

@@smallmevt what does that have anything to do with what I said?

@adayinforever

Жыл бұрын

@@smallmevt I'm the same age as the woman, when she died, in this story. What does respect for elders have to do with anything? Everyone deserves basic respect but nobody is owed more respect based on their age.