ICJ Hearing: Self-Defense Is Not A License For Unlimited Violence: South Africa | Dawn News English
Lawyer Vaughan Lowe, representing the South African delegation, challenges Israel's arguments at the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
Lowe highlights the inconsistency in Israel's position, blocking investigators in Gaza while claiming insufficient evidence. He also rejects Israel's self-defense argument, citing three key points:
- Unlimited violence is not justified
- Self-defense cannot justify genocide, which is absolutely prohibited
- Self-defense does not apply to occupied territories
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dawn News English is your window into the latest news, insight, and features from South Asia and beyond.
Official Facebook: / dawndotcom
Official Twitter: / dawn_com
Website: www.dawn.com
Official Instagram: / dawnnewsenglish
#southafrica #israel #icj #worldcourt #unitednations #palestine #gaza #rafah #middleeast #war #internationalcourtofjustice #news #latestnews #dawnnewsenglish #dawnnews
Пікірлер: 396
"Self-defence" against occupied people is NOT a legal excuse.
Please arrest Biden and Scholz!
@TheWombat40
Ай бұрын
And Albanese, Dutton, Wong, Netenyahu (and his entire govt), Blinken (and all the other Whitehouse liars), Shorten, Marles, Minns
@mc-lb9dk
Ай бұрын
arrest? use the american law system. the one they used on OBL or gadhaffi and many others
@420Satan69
Ай бұрын
American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002. You can’t arrest Joe Biden. America will invade the Netherlands. And they will.
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
Ай бұрын
@@TheWombat40 How about *little Rishi Sunak* and *Macaroni?* 🤔 👀
@Ann-oh6qw
Ай бұрын
@@PauloAdriano-zo2ngAdd Suella Bravaman. I just watched her on GBN. Breathtaking.
Thank South Africa! Stop the genocide!
@gudruns9664
Ай бұрын
Israel is not doing genocide. God will protect Israel!
South Africa stood up for International law and humanity . Whatever happens South Africa should be proud as a country of doing the right thing , when the rest of the world failed.
Bravo South Africa uou are the best snd doing thr great work of humanity thankyou
@ummsalaamah9170
Ай бұрын
🎉 Thank you Counsel of S. Africa. 🎉 It's sad for humanity that anyone needs to declare the elephant is in the living room - Apartheid. It's sad to re-convince the high court that genocide is happening and wrongful acts are occuring when it's openly televised. It's sad to see ignorance of those acts or that dissonance and indifference toward continual displacing of a people for decades. Are ICJ ignorant to their own rules or do they only apply to certain people? Do they not see displacing a nation through forced removal is wrong, or that killing of a people by an occupier is wrong? Or that an occupier can not call war against the people it occupies? Disturbing.
@Jan-oc5rl
Ай бұрын
Don't forget Sunak and all the other corrupt british politicians.
@JamJam0189
Ай бұрын
I see UK MP Jeremy Corbyn and the Irish government also support this ICJ hearing.
@sylvieford9131
Ай бұрын
Are you kidding me. South African government and humanity don't go hand in hand. They should get South Africa in order first. So much corruption within ANC government , poverty , High unemployment, High crime and murder rate....should I go on . ......not to mention problems , more then a decade, with electricity.....
Thank you South Africa
@lktan224
Ай бұрын
Yes, Please.
@aquarius1500
Ай бұрын
For you tried your best South Africa looks like there's no hope anymore we love you though ❤️ 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦😒
@phillipaclemons7261
Ай бұрын
In the eyes of the world Israel is a pariah state. Thank you Sth Africa
@simonprice779
Ай бұрын
@@aquarius1500 that was too be expected when south Africa couldn't provide any proof
@simonprice779
Ай бұрын
@@phillipaclemons7261 so is south Africa. What are vw polo's known for in your country?
As a South African i could not be more proud of this team and i know our former president Nelson Mandela would have been as well.
@jortxing
Ай бұрын
A couple of days ago I explained my 7 years son who was Nelson Mandela, his fought against injustice and for human rights. Love and respect for South Africa from Spain. Let Gaza live.🇵🇸
@simonprice779
Ай бұрын
How's crime in your own country? 😂😂😂😂
@simonprice779
Ай бұрын
@@jortxingplural noun: repercussions 1. an unintended consequence of an event or action, especially an unwelcome one. "the move would have grave repercussions for the entire region"
@mogamadgreyson143
Ай бұрын
@@simonprice779We are not being bombed,,,and you???
@claudinedevries9477
Ай бұрын
@@simonprice779 Gaslighting doesn't change the facts that are there for all to see. Sit down
Self defense isn't 7 months later.
@_SnowJustice_
Ай бұрын
100% TRUE
@kidicarus2768
Ай бұрын
Facts
@jeannedarc5521
Ай бұрын
Exactly 👍
@ClaireLavoie-qk2xe
Ай бұрын
It is premedited self-offence!
@adoty2158
Ай бұрын
Wh didn't they focus on getting their hostages back? netanyahoo didn't care. He just wanted to build his beachfront home in gaza.
the occupier HAS NOT RIGHT to self-defense.! Great South Africa
"How could people who look like us and talk like us be involved in genocide". True statement.
@khismet
Ай бұрын
You mistake them for people. They are not. They worship Baal their god.
@BigMac4459
Ай бұрын
@@khismet modern Jews indeed take up the tabernacle of moloch and the star of remphan- but God and Jesus will correct and punish this- not us
@gudruns9664
Ай бұрын
Israel is not doing genocide!
Thank you South Africa for being on the right side history! Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you South Africa for standing up for humanity ❤ May justice prevail and Israel got convicted
Thank you very much South Africa 🤗 🇵🇸❤🇿🇦❤ 🇵🇸❤🇿🇦❤
I’m Canadian. And I love the Netherlands. But my neighbours to the south piss on this court and they will not head their orders. It’s pointless.
@hiltonwatkins6750
Ай бұрын
I think the judgement from this court may be something that Israel needs to pay attention to. There are several nuclear states which could enforce the ruling very effectively, just by issuing a demand coupled with a threat of total annihilation if they don’t obey whatever the ruling is. I wonder what the USA would do if either Russia or China issued that sort of challenge to Israel given that they have the power to make Israel a footnote to history. 🇨🇦
@420Satan69
Ай бұрын
@@hiltonwatkins6750 the USA would issue a nuclear threat of their own. Israel basically already has issued one. With the history of sectarian violence it would warrant the UN send in peacekeepers.(won’t happen) You can’t have a civilian population destroying food aid for a starving population. Peace make if they have to. I honestly believe if the USA stops providing weapons to Israel. Russia will provide them. Your best bet would be China. Putin and Netanyahu are pals. Netanyahu would also push his red button before he let Israel become a footnote. He’s also got a pool of goons lined up to replace him. Republicans are huffing and puffing about going into The Hague to free any Israeli brought in for war crimes. Doubt they have the support for that kind of thing.
@Parallax982
Ай бұрын
@@hiltonwatkins6750 That will never happen. Israel will simply lose whatever shreds are left of the veil hiding its atrocities. Perhaps that might have some impact on the Biden administration but I doubt it. And Trump would be many times worse.
@mogamadgreyson143
Ай бұрын
@@hiltonwatkins6750before I could wipe my eyes out their was a warrant of arrest for Putin but ICJ can't mention the word genocide not ceasefire for the Palistinians,I don't have any confidence in any of these people anymore..
@BigMac4459
Ай бұрын
@@hiltonwatkins6750 eh but God has helped Israel survive outnumbered 30 to 1. With God none can stand against them.
"THERE IS NO CREDIBLE ARGUMENT THAT THIS CATASTROPHE IS NOT REAL"
S. Africa ain't letting this go!!! I think S. Africa is the leading contender for The Noble Peace Prize
@staticcouch135
Ай бұрын
They are too good for Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel Fool Prize has lost all credibility. They gave it to a bunch of warmongers and claim for Peace. SA deserves better.
@samiaelfarolucchesi9193
Ай бұрын
Concordo. Merecem!
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
Noble prizes are not for the corrupt.
@staticcouch135
Ай бұрын
South Africa is too good for the Noble Peace Prize
The court is a joke.
@joycekweyama6383
Ай бұрын
You mean that Unite Nations is deaf and dumb because it not ICJ that makes decisions. It is the UN
@FariedaLukie-gb4pr
Ай бұрын
Joke created by whom
God bless south Africa
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has a responsibility to address the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. By failing to hold Prime Minister Netanyahu and his Likud party accountable for their actions, the ICJ is complicit in this crime. The ICJ must issue warrants for the arrest of Netanyahu and his associates and bring them to justice.
@mol7981
Ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@josemwamba3414
Ай бұрын
Sure
@waltermesser9737
Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ejimayang3687
Ай бұрын
Anything less than these demands should cause ICJ to lose credibility and subsequently cause member states to withdraw their membership from the ICJ forthwith.
@samiaelfarolucchesi9193
Ай бұрын
Quem dera.....isso é um sonho!!!
Excellent statement(s) by Lawyer Lowe and it is great that South Africa has not given up. Cheers!
The magnificent demonstration presented by this South African counsel makes me want to be a lawyer. Brilliant.
Thank You South Africa❤
Peace and LOVE Upon ONE and ALL
@jeannedarc5521
Ай бұрын
Same to you 🫶🏼🤲🏻❤
starving tactid is not self defense
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
Neither is taking children hostage.
South African tireless bid to support the Palestinians, who are being demised by the Israeli, gives hope that there is still some justice and good out there. Thanks South Africa
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
Not inside SA there isn't.
"Self-defense is not a license for unlimited violence " a super crossing, argument.
The ICJ believes that slow and steady will eventually make everybody forget the issue 😅
Very clear and lucid argument for ensuring action. If the icc has any point at all it should ensure it is effective.
The memory of the HOLOCAUST is not a license to kill.
@jeannedarc5521
Ай бұрын
Indeed and why not all other human beings that have gone through extermination we are never reminded of!
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
Neither is religion.
@ivanauletu
Ай бұрын
Historical significance of Holocaust has become void and nill by the current actions of Israel.
Congratulations SOUTH AFRICA👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It isn’t self-defense if it’s on someone else’s territory.
NOT ! Occupiers * Aggressors * Oppressors and Thiefs, have NO rights to self defense. Armed Struggle, is legal under International Law. God Bless Freedom Fighters Forever. Love to Palestinians from Senegal 🇸🇳❤ 🌍🙏
Self - defense ? How stupid We must be ?
Self-defence, my ass. They have been doing this since 1948
This is very important what he said there is no self defence for an occupying power and that is the international law if their is still one.
Had not enough truth been presented before you? And you are still not doing anything! Why??? What are you waiting for??
@samiaelfarolucchesi9193
Ай бұрын
O que ganha continuando inerte???? São corruptos???
Very proud is South Africa for standing up for Justice and Humanity while other countries stood aside and watched
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
The SA government you mean?
Unimaginable Horror❗
1. Right of self defence does not given Israel the right to commit genoside.
I CAN NOT BE MORE PROUD OF SOUTH AFRICA. HOW STRONG AND BRAVE THEY ARE❤❤ MY NEXT VACATION DESTINATION IS SOUTH AFRICA❤❤❤
😢😮😮Can someone please explain to me again why no European nation including the US wanted these people in their country before during and after WWII????? What did they know that we are now finding out???? 🤔 😮😢
@zandimoms8202
Ай бұрын
Valid question
Very well said. It’s a shame That even the ICj cannot stop Israel
@lktan224
Ай бұрын
Behind the ICJ is the monster USA staring down at them.
@user-ic7ew7vc3i
Ай бұрын
@@lktan224 True . Shame On The US Government
And selfdefence is not valid under international law when violence erupts in a territory illegally occupies. It is as simple as that
Where is ICC arrest warrant for Netanyahu. !!😮
@jonye7511
Ай бұрын
They're first looking for 3 others in Qatar.
@zandimoms8202
Ай бұрын
Maybe still counting $ from US
Why is this so complicated when it comes to Israel? If it was another nation, they would never hesitate to say no to this or take serious measures about it. History is repeating itself over and over again.
@Parallax982
Ай бұрын
Israel is mostly white. It's a huge military asset for the western powers, a vast military base of sorts. Also, the Israelis have enormous political clout. They have bought the U.S. Congress. And the western mainstream media.
@claudinedevries9477
Ай бұрын
Exactly
@samiaelfarolucchesi9193
Ай бұрын
Dá uma sensação bem ruim....
@NomesMiniChannel
Ай бұрын
Money
Offences committed by zanist entity are as follows: 1. Forcefully grabbing land 2. No food, water, electric, gas, fuel, medicine and human necessities 3. Killing innocent people of Palestine 4. Killing innocent journalists 5. Killing aid workers 6. Transportation block of goods 7. Mass Graves 8. Discrimination against Muslims and Christians etc 9. Distorting mosques, education building, churches, homes, civil government building 10. Using Ai system to target Palestine people 11. Road structure distoying 12. Killing people of while a live 13. Killing of doctors and other health professionals. Etc
@frankthetank8050
Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct, you only forget the last point in their devious MO, after a litany of unspeakable atrocities: *Claiming to be the victim*
@kidicarus2768
Ай бұрын
Can't forget that@@frankthetank8050
@MrDeap
Ай бұрын
You forgot about mass ads of perjury.
You have no power. This is a very, very, very bad world.😭😭😭😭😭
Thank god for Sth Africa. You exposed to the world Israel’s intention of EC and G
stop now and face justiceisrael
Amandla!! ✊🏼
@JoseManuel-jd1yr
Ай бұрын
Wethu❤❤Sweet people of 🇿🇦 we love
@bilkees8151
Ай бұрын
Awethu! ✊️
@zandimoms8202
Ай бұрын
Mayibuye!!!!!
South Africa we salute and respected you all .
Luv S. Africa...❤❤❤
Thank your ICJ for your honesty integrity dignity courage compassion humanity
How it said self defense when involved more than 10k children deliberately targeted..
God bless south Africa.
BLESSINGS, APPRECIATIONS TO SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦, 🇿🇦 ,❤ STANDING-UP for D-E-C-A-D-E-S OLD BLEEDING PALESTINE 🇵🇸 !
Why can't United Nations have peace keeping forces in Gaza,?????
I guess we will now be able to see where the.power lies. Stay tuned. And may the Most High bless you South Africa for standing tall in the face of such ....💫
Brave man speaking the truth❤❤❤
Self revenge, not self defence!
ICJ reputation is at hight risk if nothing is done no one would never ever forget they will loose their credibility forever. It will be considered as a tool designed against weak and poor countries.
Makes me feel proud to be from SA. Proud of the rainbow nation.
The guilty defendant is absent during the ruling.
My confidence in ICJ is SOLID.
I said thank you South African for your bravery and humanity for Palestine thank you thank you
God choosing people think they above all law
@y.s7787
Ай бұрын
It seems they are
How beautiful this proud white tone is when it advocates for humanity!
These people are CRAZY.
75 years self-defense 😂😂😂😂😂what you doing that you Need self defense????if you don’t do any crimes or criminal acts you don’t Necessarily need self defense!!!! You follow the LAW only!!!
Still all leaders are quiet and International court are only talking
😢💔
They went all out for Ukraine and just watched as Palestinians be brutalised 🤦🏿♂️
@omarguled9209
Ай бұрын
Because the occupation of Palestine is sponsored by oppressive colonialist states
Thank you South Africa. Arrest Nataneyahu and his associates.
So far,, the settlers,, has been ripping up,, shredding,, the laws.(what song is this for again?)
@waltermesser9737
Ай бұрын
Why not?
Why no jury?🤔🤔🤔🤔
The South African case will have the unintended (?) effect of legitimizing hostage taking as a tactic of war.
Thank you so very much south Africa as you are defending Palestinian civilians those were massacred by Israeli administration.
There is a troubling reality that often goes unspoken: Palestinians find themselves in a position where their suffering can be overlooked or quickly forgotten. A significant aspect of this is rooted in cultural practices; the majority of Palestinians are Muslims who traditionally bury their dead within 24 hours. This rapid burial can inadvertently minimize the visibility of casualties in the eyes of the international community, potentially benefiting the IDF. OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND. It's crucial to acknowledge and address how these dynamics contribute to a cycle where the gravity of loss might not be fully recognized or remembered.🕊️🇵🇸
@waltermesser9737
Ай бұрын
BS
Very powerful!!! 👏👏👏
And amen
The artificial colonial settler state of Israel claims that it has the right to defend itself against the indigenous people of Palestine. Israel, however, has no such right, under international law, as the occupier of Palestine. And, even so, that would never mean that it would have the right to commit genocide! All of the governments that are today unconditionally supporting Israel’s genocide are not democracies. How could they be? In order to be a democracy, a nation must have morality. Where is the morality of these government leaders who openly support genocide? Genocide is the crime of all crimes! Fortunately, most nations are opposed Israel’s genocide. Unfortunately, most international organizations and institutions are puppets of the US’ Empire. Therefore, the global majority will have to force the US and the West to comply with international law, because they will never do so voluntarily. You need morality for democracy!
What is investigation without result?
Real charges would really stick. Thanks for coming out, and nice hair by the way. What friggen year is this?
@claudinedevries9477
Ай бұрын
How does it get more real than this?????
What bout the gravies
Did ICJ called it down the middle ?
I hear a lot of talk but no action at all just a lot of talk
True
🗣🗣💯🙏🏽🎯
أظهرت جنوب افريقيا شجاعة ومسئولية انسانية تجاه الشعب الفلسطيني، لسبب يجب ان يفهمه الكل وهو انها عانت من الاضطهاد والظلم خصوصاً من"الغرب" ومن التفرقة العنصرية ومن الكيل بمكيالين. كل الذين صوتوا (بالامتناع عن التصويت) هم اشد نفاقاً واشد عداوة لنا من الذين اظهروا حقيقتهم فاحذروهم.
U love hearing yourself speak, but the action you lack, action speaks louder than words ! We'll see 👀 😏
The first year
Occupiers never right it's self defence in other's country or other's terotory . They're activitys dangerous than terror .
The world love South Africa for loving the people of Palestine. Free Palestine land's 🇵🇸 ❤
Shame on all muslim and Arabic countries
@thefinestsake1660
Ай бұрын
Why?
What self defense man? What did those women and children do to you? Literally, what are you protecting/defending yourself against???
Three key points: - Unlimited violence is not justified - Self-defense cannot justify genocide, which is absolutely prohibited - Self-defense does not apply to occupied territories
Do something and less speech or people's will less believe in law.
South Africa's election this month. 😮😮😮
Please arrest SatanYahoo
At last - the TRUTH IS OUT!