ICF BASEMENT WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED HERE??????

We were hired to pour this basement floor for this ICF basement. The walls were a mess and the entire foundation was out of square. They never checked they're dimentions until after the walls were poured. BIG MISTAKE GUYS. always double and triple check yourself and this won't happen.

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  • @getinthespace7715
    @getinthespace77158 ай бұрын

    Ouch. I've helped do a few ICF homes, foundations and basements. Everything needs to be layed out perfectly before you pour. Walls square and level, spray foam to attach to the footings and lock the bottom in place. Brace all the walls, we add extra plywood bracing on lower parts of all the corners to help mitigate blowouts. Cheap insurance against what is otherwise a mess. Screw measuring twice, you better have checked and rechecked things a few times prepping for pour day, and then right after the pour do a final check before things set to fine tune anything that shifted a little. Can't half-ass ICF and have it turn out well.

  • @thomaswalsh287
    @thomaswalsh2872 жыл бұрын

    Typically, when you lay out your walls, they should be centered on the footing. In residential work, that is about 4"- 8"- 4" on a 16" footing. To stray 8" from parallel, I would bet that the error was in the batter boards( if these guys even used any!) Certainly , the footings were equally bad, or the mistake would have been apparent at the inital layout of the walls. People have managed to get this right for thousands of years. Shows a lack of experience. The framer , in setting his sills, demonstrated how bad the situation really was. Now, everyone has to work harder for a mediocre result. Backfilling unbraced walls ( or without a floor system)is a big no-no. Then , you drive a concrete truck up close?! The foam on the ICF's is probably hiding some serious cracks. The interior piers should have been poured monolithically, below grade....no forms.....or formed at floor level and poured seperately....... no wire , no rebar or anchor bolts in the piers....nice job on the floor gentlemen.... first thing done right.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks and I agree this was a mess. I noticed the walls did not land on the footers correctly so I think the footer may have been correct but who knows. Lol 😂

  • @mikeRadamz
    @mikeRadamz Жыл бұрын

    Teamwork makes the dreamwork, as the saying goes. It's really nice to watch you guys work together, thanks for posting.

  • @mikeajames9261
    @mikeajames92612 жыл бұрын

    Framed houses for 25 years. Seen all kinds of out of square foundations (and framing). I would say the person who layed out those walls marked one wall on the wrong side of the line. Double check every dimension. It takes more time, but it could save you a lot of headaches. Make sure your helper is holding the dummy end on the right mark. To double check myself, I would go back the other direction and check my marks. That foundation would be so easy to check for square before you start forming/stacking. Of course I have also seen foundation walls so out of plumb that I really had to fudge the lines to get things to work.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree we always check everything over and over before the pour.

  • @ktm3850

    @ktm3850

    Жыл бұрын

    Unsupervised, unskilled, careless, negligent, irresponsible jerks. I've learned fast over the years and dealt with this kind of B.S. The person that commented about checking everything is absolutely right. I guess the person that did this measured once, got into his truck and went to the next job so they can screw that up too.

  • @tomrogers9467

    @tomrogers9467

    7 ай бұрын

    I was on a job where the blocklayers started at opposite ends of the wall. Unfortunately each started on opposite sides of the chalk line! Real brain surgeons, that crew.

  • @edwardsullivan5481

    @edwardsullivan5481

    7 ай бұрын

    @@tomrogers9467 I had a job where the blocklayers installed three rows of a 50 ft wall with two inches of the perfectly squared slab foundation showing on the outside. I asked them why they put the blocks there and they said the prints showed the dimension 2 inches less. So you don't ask what up? They admitted they should have and started over.

  • @carlschroeder6811

    @carlschroeder6811

    7 ай бұрын

    God forbid you suggest that a laborer take 5 minutes to THINK about what they are doing BEFORE they do it and fuck it up.

  • @FJB2020
    @FJB20202 жыл бұрын

    Hey Bondo! Just have to say thanks for the tip on stacking a course or two and then pouring the floor. My wife and I are building our own ICF home and that tip was a game changer for the guys I hired to finish the slab. Also a lot of respect for people pouring these walls.. I just ran the hose on our 13' tall wall pour last week while my wife ran the pencil and my 75 year old dad slapped the walls to let me know when to move on.. Because of people like you on YT, we have been able to do it all ourselves (minus slab finishing) with great results. So thanks again!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chris these kind of comments are what keeps me going doing the videos. It warms my heart that I am able to help out people here and they can save money and build there own home. Awesome job doing it with your wife and family. I wish I could travel around the country and help people like you. Keep up the good work my friend.

  • @aday1637
    @aday1637 Жыл бұрын

    It'd be interesting to see the house sitting on that foundation with the sides sticking out of a finished home. It was insane not to check the forms prior to the pour.

  • @bradmiller9993

    @bradmiller9993

    8 ай бұрын

    Thats going to play havoc with the frame all the way up.

  • @jimbob4456
    @jimbob44562 жыл бұрын

    Lot of respect for you guys . That is some hard work. Looks great.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jim

  • @lordfizzz
    @lordfizzz Жыл бұрын

    Love the vids and your commentary is always awesome and so helpful!

  • @shmeli
    @shmeli7 ай бұрын

    I worked in new builds for 20 years and I have never seen anyone pour the basement floor before the rest of the house was built.

  • @mikestronach4762
    @mikestronach47622 жыл бұрын

    After 25 years and lot of block I am so tired of The sales guys. “It’s like Lego”. Good work that is level and square takes experience.

  • @lakewake2007

    @lakewake2007

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I’m pretty new to ICF as a contractor, and I’ve realized real fast the biggest disservice the manufacturers do to them selves is spend time convincing everyone it’s faster to try and compete with the toothless framers. Instead they should just focus on the fact that you are building a robust envelope instead of a house where guys can’t even be bothered to nail stuff off properly.

  • @homeslipper

    @homeslipper

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lakewake2007 what happened to the framers teeth? Do the toothed framers nail it all off? So many questions..

  • @nevasoba5953

    @nevasoba5953

    2 жыл бұрын

    amen brother

  • @FJB2020

    @FJB2020

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not hard.. you just can't be a moron like whomever built this wall..

  • @nicholasjohn1001
    @nicholasjohn10012 жыл бұрын

    If it were my house and I didn’t lay those blocks, they would have been corrected. To pay someone for being 8” off and then let it slide, is crazy.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the homeowner was going after the crew that built it.

  • @nofurtherwest3474

    @nofurtherwest3474

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bondobuilt386 do they have to demo it and redo it?

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nofurtherwest3474 I don't think so they are going to work with it.

  • @nofurtherwest3474

    @nofurtherwest3474

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bondobuilt386 Oh I see. How do they do that - do they just add on some sliver of foundation under that overhang part?

  • @tomtillman
    @tomtillman Жыл бұрын

    Diagonals can match perfectly, and the walls can still be out of square. There are two steps to squaring a rectangle. 1.The opposing walls must be exactly the same length. 2. Then, if the diagonals match, It's square.

  • @chuckbaker2398

    @chuckbaker2398

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep, a trapezoid can have equal diagonals.

  • @larryzdanis5377

    @larryzdanis5377

    7 ай бұрын

    I volunteer at a free trade school.. they were teaching how to square a foundation and had a presentation slide showing only that diagonals needed to be equal.. I tried nicely correcting the instructor (afterwards, not real-time) mentioning that you also need to make opposite sides are of equal length. He didn't think that was important to mention.. I disagree - its critical.

  • @denverscott37

    @denverscott37

    6 ай бұрын

    3-4-5...6-8-10....12-16-20....24-32-40... This is how I square large projects up, it's called the Pythagorean theorem..

  • @tomtillman

    @tomtillman

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, this works, but i find it can be hard to get it perfectly, exactly square on big squares. If you measure the parallels and then the diagonals, you know it's perfect to the 1/4 inch. cheers.@@denverscott37

  • @dustinlarkin6970

    @dustinlarkin6970

    6 ай бұрын

    A2 +B2=C2 on any 90 degree triangle is the Pythagorean theorem, that way you can use with any dimensions and get the accurate corner to corner instead of just multiples of 345. That way you can save a few steps back and forth on the diagonal measuring. Then check the other one if ya need to but if your sides measure the same it should be good.

  • @pauldunkling1254
    @pauldunkling12542 ай бұрын

    Bondo…. Surprisingly satisfying to watch you and your team working together. I’m planning a 30 x30 attached garage addition with finished floor above. Planning on ICF for foundation with radiant heated slab. I’m watching as many of your vids I can find to get ready for this fall’s construction. Wish you guys were closer ( northern Vt) Thanks for all the great videos and pointers!

  • @2ddw
    @2ddw2 жыл бұрын

    It's out of square because it is a trapezoid with same diagonals.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup 👍

  • @lordfizzz

    @lordfizzz

    Жыл бұрын

    3 4 5 never fails!

  • @alldabeanzracing9650
    @alldabeanzracing96509 ай бұрын

    Why can't I stop watching these videos!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't know but Im glad. Lol

  • @gorillaau

    @gorillaau

    5 ай бұрын

    @bondobuilt386 One snappy answer: Because you keep uploading them. I'm glad that you do. Squaring a room isn't hard, just have to be thorough until you are happy with it. Get it wrong and everyone who works on the site is going to hate you.

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable2 жыл бұрын

    Measure twice, build once. This house will be screwed from the floor, to the roof, drywall, framers, cabinet guys, trim guys , probably plumber even. Electrician will just laugh to the bank.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were going to frame everything out square so that's why the plate hung over the foundation so bad. Then a porch all the way around front and both sides.

  • @tommiller7177

    @tommiller7177

    2 жыл бұрын

    The way the framing hangs over, put the panel there. Run the service straight up out of the ground, into the bottom plate. Lol.

  • @bradkvanbek7148
    @bradkvanbek71482 жыл бұрын

    I cannot imagine building, especially a simple rectangle, dimensioned 8" off. We have built with ICFs for 17 years and produce walls as plumb, straight and square as any. The dimensions are the easy part.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree just need to double check measurements.

  • @russthomas9451

    @russthomas9451

    2 жыл бұрын

    One guy put it on the wrong side of line

  • @joshuawiedenbeck6944
    @joshuawiedenbeck69445 күн бұрын

    We always pour out ICF walls "backwards." We pour the footers, then we do the underground and form for the interior slab. We pour the slab with full access around the entire perimeter. Then, we install the wall blocks using the slab as the layout guide because it's already 100% square. Take the slab forms and reinstall on the outside of the icf blocks and the bottom has no danger of blowing out. Makes the entire process easier for every step.

  • @aaron_brown7324
    @aaron_brown73242 жыл бұрын

    I’m a floor guy and it’s pretty cool to see the process before every trade comes in and beats it up before have to come clean it and install the finished product

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome but the poor floor guy. Last one in and the project is over budget and the excitement of building is long gone. I'd rather be the concrete guy. Lol 😂 Thanks bud

  • @TheUnleashed123

    @TheUnleashed123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Savage

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheUnleashed123 Thanks LOL

  • @georgelamarca5878
    @georgelamarca58789 ай бұрын

    you guys are a great team, ya know what you're doing!

  • @ziggyman4525
    @ziggyman45252 жыл бұрын

    O my god that foundation is off!!! That's why I need that estimate from you to build my house in Vernon, for next year. You guys do great work.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I wish you were a little closer though. Lol

  • @michaeleaston547
    @michaeleaston5472 жыл бұрын

    Professional job. Nice going. Thank you. "Plumb, square and level are overused terms. LOL

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael your welcome

  • @castletown999
    @castletown9992 жыл бұрын

    Equal diagonals does NOT guarantee it is square. The diagonals check only works if you are certain the opposite sides are equal in length. Otherwise you can have a trapezoid which can have equal diagonals but the corners are not 90 degrees. The only way to check is to first measure the opposite sides and make sure they are equal. Only then you can measure the diagonals to ensure squareness. You can get away with this in woodworking because you cut the opposite sides the same length. But in this case you must measure them.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree John and that was the mistake hey never double checked the length of the walls.

  • @toddbailey5198

    @toddbailey5198

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also do the math before hand and know what the diagonal should be and any problem will show up immediately.

  • @ChrisWijtmans

    @ChrisWijtmans

    7 ай бұрын

    and use corner stones.

  • @user-in6hi8ms3q
    @user-in6hi8ms3q8 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy watching your channel on You Tube, you do some great concrete projects and I can see that you are not a slacker but one of your guys I notice is often standing around twiddling his thumbs so to speak when his work buddy is the complete opposite. You must have some great relationship to let him get away with being so slack, I know that I wouldn’t but then again I’m a hard bastard! Keep up the amazing work 😊

  • @ericwsmith7722
    @ericwsmith77222 жыл бұрын

    I like the time-lapse, you can easily see who is doing the least amount of work.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL we were all working that day.

  • @57menjr
    @57menjr9 ай бұрын

    My son put himself threw college as a concert finisher.

  • @gjones5153
    @gjones51532 жыл бұрын

    Ive seen this once before. One ft out of square on the end of a rectangle foundation. The framer built the house longer. Cantilevered 6” and 18”. I guess nobody is perfect but this is something that should be checked multiple times

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said Greg. Nobody is perfect. These are easy to check before the pour.

  • @nofurtherwest3474

    @nofurtherwest3474

    2 жыл бұрын

    So how is it remedied? They have to build out the foundation wall some more to even it out?

  • @gs8716
    @gs87162 жыл бұрын

    Great job, as expected...thx Gary

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gary

  • @TheGrimReaper1
    @TheGrimReaper17 ай бұрын

    When i was setting out for block work or steel work for farm buildings i always measured the sides at least two or three times before doing the diagonals. For just this very reason.

  • @richardstockwell9637
    @richardstockwell96372 жыл бұрын

    another nice job you have a great team way better then the guys I have we cant find qualified people that will show up for work, I do have a few core guys I would be lost with out

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Richard. Hard to find good help now days.

  • @douglasjankey7580
    @douglasjankey75807 ай бұрын

    Nice work and it’s good to read everyone’s comments. I live in the north shore of Chicago high end neck-of-the-woods and you would be hard pressed to finds guys with all these comments and suggestions/knowledge. The people doing concrete work around here don’t speak English and the ones that do landed at O’hare from Poland and were given directions to the job site when they landed. Terrible workmanship.

  • @mathtime4578
    @mathtime45782 жыл бұрын

    We do basements not with icf but still the same principle it's right or it's wrong. We do alot of very big customs that people expect to be correct. We have a great system to make sure measurements and square are correct. First plans are manually put into our total station. This will tell us if the plans are incorrect, happens way more than you would think. Then we do a form list off those plans which are painted on the footings. Finally when we get to the end of the wall we measure to make sure we have the right fillers. Really there is no excuse for the wrong measurements and out of square should be minimal. Nice job on showing the problems and even better on the floor. Stay safe and have a great day.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. That sounds like you guys do professional work and stand by what you do. That's all anyone can ask for these days. Keep up doing good work and you will always be busier than you need to be. 👍

  • @mathtime4578

    @mathtime4578

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bondobuilt386 thank you. We use to do flatwork as well but got to where we couldn't keep up with walls. Definitely not trying to advertise but look on my channel and you can see some of the basements we do. I'm not trying for subscribers but like to show friends some of the things we do. Several are quite interesting. I love to check out what others do as well to see the good and sometimes the bad work they do. Learned a few things watching what others do. Even an old dog can learn new tricks lol. Good luck and I look forward to some later videos.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mathtime4578 Thanks I love learning new tricks and KZread is a great reference.

  • @mikeboschert4905

    @mikeboschert4905

    7 ай бұрын

    Total station on a basement?

  • @mathtime4578

    @mathtime4578

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mikeboschert4905 yeah we do basements for high-end homes. Some have had 40 corners just in te basement not including the short walls. Turned on all kinds of different angles. Once put into the instrument layout takes minimal time and we know its right. It has paid for itself many times over.

  • @usedcarsokinawa
    @usedcarsokinawa7 ай бұрын

    This is the best looking pour I’ve seen.

  • @kbbb4227
    @kbbb42272 жыл бұрын

    Great crew, worth a million bucks man.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Karl

  • @briant7067
    @briant706710 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @butopiatoo
    @butopiatoo2 жыл бұрын

    well done. gotta be hard to walk in at the end and do good work following something sloppy. very well done sir!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is bud. Thank you 😊

  • @volleydave2012
    @volleydave20122 жыл бұрын

    The power of the sun! I do that stuff all the time. And finish by hand no problem with soft spots.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup hand bomb the wet areas.

  • @timedvrodlehnen8448

    @timedvrodlehnen8448

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bla, bla, all these pros, shut your pie holes, a good carpenter can make it happen,,,35 years in this lovely sport,… 5 years left, don’t think I’ll miss it, was a hard life but would not change ,unless I knew before hand, not, was a good run,…

  • @Kipperbob
    @Kipperbob2 жыл бұрын

    Every time I see concrete I just think, here comes a big load of excitement 😀

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup same here bud. LOL

  • @bradmiller9993

    @bradmiller9993

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah thats why I never did concrete. I could always fix a framing mistake or a drywall mistake but concrete ? " A man has got to know his limitations...."

  • @burntle
    @burntle7 ай бұрын

    48 years experience forming walls here - I always checked on my Construction Master Pro calculator what the diagonals should be - catches any mistakes like this one right away. - Al the concrete guy

  • @ericwotton2046
    @ericwotton2046 Жыл бұрын

    My parents foundation was poured 3 inches out of square and and 5 1/2" out of level. We had to build a pony wall ontop of the foundation to square up and level the building from there.

  • @oregonpatriot1570
    @oregonpatriot15702 жыл бұрын

    Thats a lot of work! Now I know why people had 'dirt basements' for centuries.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya and they did not have cement trucks either. LOL

  • @Rick-tb4so
    @Rick-tb4so Жыл бұрын

    Great as always...What are your thoughts on ICF basements ?

  • @human4805
    @human48057 ай бұрын

    Compare bottom diagonals to the top.. bet my hat they back filled the outside before the cement in walls were cured (a month) , and made it a polygon when ground settled before concrete. We had to re excavate & push out a 3" bow on a 80' wall, back within ¾" .. with my car jack, every glue lam & 6x6 leveraged off opposite wall. All Because the heavy equipment operator pushed sand to the wall, instead of winging it alongside. Seen it a few times now & it always gets blamed on the builders.. but 8" out, is nuts! Also watched the cement crew kick a corner a few inches to get the truck in closer 😅

  • @kentGrey
    @kentGrey2 жыл бұрын

    0:54. EIGHT INCH DIFFERENCE IN THE WALL LENGTH!!! Only two possible causes: Gross incompetence or inebriation (maybe both)!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @randomstuffwithjoe
    @randomstuffwithjoe2 жыл бұрын

    8"? Thats crazy. I just built a log home and hired a concrete guy to form and pour the foundation after we excavated. My foundation was literally less then 1/2" out of square. It was as near perfect as I could've imaged.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats how it should be. Glad they did a good job for ya. This one was a mess.

  • @susanconklin4945

    @susanconklin4945

    2 жыл бұрын

    We are also planning on building a log cabin on a concrete foundation. Did you get any pushback from people about using poured concrete foundation? We live in the Texas and termites are a thing

  • @randomstuffwithjoe

    @randomstuffwithjoe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@susanconklin4945 I'm in MA and we did a full basement concrete foundation with a stem wall. Are you talking about a slab or a full foundation? If termites are a thing.. I would think you'll wanna at least go with a concrete stem wall? If you look at my youtube channel, you can check out a few videos of the build from start to finish.

  • @Darkk6969
    @Darkk69697 ай бұрын

    I am curious as to why the wire mesh wasn't installed prior to the pour of the flooring? I mean it would add strength to the concrete or not really needed in this case?

  • @christianbeccy
    @christianbeccy7 ай бұрын

    Wow! And there's me worrying about being off my plan measurement by just under 1/2" at the top of the first lift over a 40 foot length. I'll probably win some of that back when I plum the walls as we don't have concrete in yet. Great work on the floor though.

  • @rodmills4071
    @rodmills40712 жыл бұрын

    In the early 80s I worked on a 7 story building in Brisbane hospital. It was 7 inches out of square . So they added 1 inch to the column in the corner each level to bring it back to square. Good thing I wasn't an impressionable young apprentice... 🤣😂😁😀😎

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL that had to be a pain.

  • @randymyers5086
    @randymyers50862 жыл бұрын

    I would of refused to pay for those walls ,plus went after them for tear out and delay expensive.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes I agree.

  • @ayuse01
    @ayuse01 Жыл бұрын

    As a customer i would request a complete tear down of this piss poor job.

  • @stevanrose7439
    @stevanrose74392 жыл бұрын

    We always put number 4 rebar on two foot centers. I noticed that you didn’t put anything in for reinforcement. I never much cared for fiber mesh either.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    The homeowner made the call on reinforcement for this job.

  • @Donnybrook10
    @Donnybrook102 жыл бұрын

    607?! That's my area code. I'll have to be sure to never use those clowns. I can't believe they were stupid enough to put their name on the wall of that horrific error.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know. Lol 😂 I don't think they knew it was off yet when they painted it on there. Lol

  • @tompaj1620
    @tompaj162011 ай бұрын

    are you able to mount plate board over the foam in ICF??? I see plate is flush with the edge of the wall that means it must be over the foam and not over the concrete..

  • @Matt-my7pz
    @Matt-my7pz6 ай бұрын

    1"thick if you screened level eh! Yikes dude! Sweet time lapse! Great commentary

  • @user-tz8jz9zt6d
    @user-tz8jz9zt6d6 ай бұрын

    Hi, nice video. Can you explain what the use is of the 3 boxes that were made in the floor (see 1:44)? Whats the use of that? In this case no rebar, why not?

  • @Sean-ps8wg
    @Sean-ps8wg2 жыл бұрын

    So how often do you see the basement completely backfilled without a floor system in place. I’d worry about the wall pushing in. Also, on a simple rectangle, it would be hard to make these walls uneven since the block count and sizes are the same side to side. They actually had to work to screw this up, lol! Good job on the floor though!

  • @mikeajames9261

    @mikeajames9261

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saw it more often than not. Safety is number one. Trying to lay a floor around an open hole is not productive and dangerous. And honestly, I've seen walls pushed in by excavators after the floor was framed.

  • @michaeljuers574

    @michaeljuers574

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya! Don’t brace the wall and then drive a readymix truck right up to the edge. They could at least drive up to the corner!

  • @stipcrane

    @stipcrane

    2 жыл бұрын

    They couldn't build the floor till the slab was poured because they chose to do monolithic piers down the center. And a floor deck above would make the basement a dark cave. The best solution is to pour the slab first, and refrain from backfilling till the floor is constructed. On my last two basements the engineers wanted the slab poured before the foundation walls were backfilled even though they were designed as retaining walls. They didn't want the footings or walls to creep inward toward the hole by to force of the dirt. The footings were six feet wide(!) but oh well, you do as you're told.

  • @joesmoth2610

    @joesmoth2610

    2 жыл бұрын

    Looks like poured walls not block

  • @Sean-ps8wg

    @Sean-ps8wg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joesmoth2610 I was talking about the icf blocks.

  • @joer4595
    @joer45952 жыл бұрын

    Your floor looks great 👍 !

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Joe

  • @clydecox2108
    @clydecox21082 жыл бұрын

    You guys do great work, the guys that messed up the walls : / Not so much...

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Clyde

  • @chrisE815
    @chrisE8152 жыл бұрын

    Did they really put their sign on that foundation? That company is out by me- 4.3 stars on Google. I might end up building with ICF in the near future- Glad they put their sign up, so I know who NOT to call!!!!!

  • @TrailTrackers

    @TrailTrackers

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sign looks like the logo for the ICF blocks.

  • @chrisE815

    @chrisE815

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TrailTrackers no they are builders in cny

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya they painted it right on the wall. Probably before they realized it was out of square? LOL

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TrailTrackers Nope it was painted on. LOL

  • @peep39
    @peep397 ай бұрын

    my house was built in 1920 and they did the same thing. I can tell from the foundation block work that the crew was amateur at best. from one corner of the house to the next corner, the sill plate starts flush with the outside and by the other end it's a good 2 inches overhung. And so is the wall and the studs. They tried to hide it by building the stucco out but it's still way overhung even with that. I never even notice this until I started replacing the sill. What an unwanted surprise. hardly the first one with this place either.

  • @Weapon12
    @Weapon124 ай бұрын

    I hope the owners are made aware of this. They should get some of their money back or back out all together.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    4 ай бұрын

    They knew about it for sure.

  • @Mrbobinge
    @Mrbobinge2 жыл бұрын

    Military precision. Your squad only needs a uniform (distinctive overalls or insignia). It'll destroy the cowboy-outfit competition. Works a treat in Europe.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks I appreciate that. We try to produce a real nice product. 👍😊

  • @andrewshedron425
    @andrewshedron4257 ай бұрын

    That's the problem with measuring diagonals. If you don't use A squared + B squared= C squared you are only making sure two corners have the same number. The Pythagorean theorem will tell you what that corner number has to be!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    7 ай бұрын

    Yup for sure.

  • @danrichards496
    @danrichards4967 ай бұрын

    What are the three square holes in the middle for? Column support?

  • @joshpierce3003
    @joshpierce30032 жыл бұрын

    I know it's not related to the video, but have you made or anybody else on here ever seen any good homemade icf braces for basement walls, or what do you like to use. I'm having a big of trouble finding a place to rent braces. Thank ya kindly Josh

  • @jennifer9528
    @jennifer95287 ай бұрын

    Omg, the Virgoan perfectionist in me would have flipped out. For as long as I owned the place, I'd never get over it. I'm seriously bothered by it for this owner's sake, and I don't even know him! When I go to build my next place, I'm going to be walking behind the contractors and inspectors, checking everything. As the saying goes, check twice, build once.

  • @joebuck120
    @joebuck1202 жыл бұрын

    I notice they didn’t counter sink the anchor bolts on the 2x 12 the mason was a couple inches off square or the footing was poured a couple inches off which threw of the block work

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup 8" off. Lol

  • @garywheeler7039
    @garywheeler70397 ай бұрын

    40 foot one end and 40 foot eight on the other, and can we guess 8" thick icf walls? Maybe someone did not measure "out to out"?

  • @welcometohell8592
    @welcometohell85922 жыл бұрын

    Dude , you're a bad ass ! I have seen the crazy diagonal wall before tho , worst spot , breakfast nook

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bro. I always say check and double check but shit does happen out there. I just don't want it to be me. LOL

  • @igroku2483
    @igroku24832 жыл бұрын

    You should snap a grade line with chalk on the wall. Using the laser makes sense for the center screed line but not the wall line. Give it a try, it really saves time on the laydown. My method is to spend the time prepping for the pour and getting it out and flat as fast as possible

  • @igroku2483

    @igroku2483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check your square both directions each time and you won't accidentally leave a wall out like that.

  • @tomb816

    @tomb816

    8 ай бұрын

    @@igroku2483 It wasn't square they needed to double check, it was overall wall length. You can have diagonals match, and remain out of square, if two walls are incorrect lengths.

  • @SOSPainting
    @SOSPainting7 ай бұрын

    “Here comes the muuuud boys and giiiirls!” 😂😂😂

  • @chrislangdell117
    @chrislangdell1172 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thats crazy out of square. I wouldn't want anything to do with that project.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya I hear ya.

  • @mehmet284
    @mehmet2842 жыл бұрын

    nice job amazing good work greetings from the netherlands

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much.

  • @nobleroofinggeneralcontrac7961
    @nobleroofinggeneralcontrac79612 жыл бұрын

    You guys are very good.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @lvtflooringstore7687
    @lvtflooringstore76872 жыл бұрын

    very good points, check twice - do once; in this case at least you will not be embarrassed

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup sooo true.

  • @swoopdog54
    @swoopdog542 жыл бұрын

    I have to say that when I was doing concrete work, I didn't have an ounce of fat on me. These guys are huge. Work them for a month doing concrete work. They will be buff!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya we get fat during or long cold winters. LOL

  • @gregsidel3557
    @gregsidel35576 ай бұрын

    Well, first thing you gotta do is get it square. Other than that bondo, you're done a good job. I know that the wall was not yours. Thank you for the video

  • @JohnThomas-lq5qp
    @JohnThomas-lq5qp7 ай бұрын

    Wired a millondollar custom home where builder only poured a 8" thick concrete basement wall instead of the 12" on drawings for 4" thick stone wall being installed. Got away with installing 4" angle iron below grade to partially support guess over 40 tons of stone.

  • @trwsandford
    @trwsandford4 ай бұрын

    “Big Biscuit”, what an epic nickname!

  • @57menjr
    @57menjr9 ай бұрын

    I am the below-ground guy who would love to see the outside wall !

  • @johnguice716
    @johnguice7162 жыл бұрын

    I like how you pointed out what was wrong with out being ...just telling the truth you and yr crew come very likeable👍

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John

  • @omicron0mega
    @omicron0mega2 жыл бұрын

    That's what happens when you use your eyes to check square.

  • @bradmiller9993
    @bradmiller99938 ай бұрын

    dumb question: why pour over the poly? is the poly there in case the water table rises ?

  • @danadams8718
    @danadams8718 Жыл бұрын

    Wow!! Every one in a rush and no one measuring.

  • @guyina4x499
    @guyina4x499 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine no conveyors or pump trucks? We did it that way for decades. Used to be 1 pump truck in the whole state booked for months in advance. Now there is 6 pumps and a dozen conveyors trucks.

  • @zekiah2
    @zekiah27 ай бұрын

    Concrete guys are great ... so long as no other trades are on site when they are

  • @jfarinacci0329
    @jfarinacci03292 жыл бұрын

    good work. Thank you.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😊

  • @treehuggerdeluxe5598
    @treehuggerdeluxe55987 ай бұрын

    I once had a boss that made me dig up a pool wall and move it A QUARTER INCH in order to be perfectly square. I don't know how many rebar pins were in it, but the whole wall of the pool was squared and pinned and ready for the concrete footing when he decided I needed to move it A QUARTER INCH toward the house.

  • @rinkevichjm
    @rinkevichjm2 жыл бұрын

    The footers for the walls should be poured with the bottom floor and the rebar (I heard the part about using fiber in mix - Helix is better than fiber and could replace much of the rebar) so that the rebar for the walls is integrated with the footers and floor. Probably should have used SCC. Basically if the house gets any earth movement, it might be in trouble, hopefully it’s Michigan or some place that doesn’t have real earthquakes.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    no earthquakes in New York. The footers and walls were done to code just way out of square.

  • @goatboy150

    @goatboy150

    7 ай бұрын

    Footings are buried under the frost line. You'd blow the forms out long before you reached "floor" level.

  • @rinkevichjm

    @rinkevichjm

    7 ай бұрын

    @@goatboy150 false with SCC

  • @centexan
    @centexan11 ай бұрын

    8" out of square?!? Holy crap. No more drinking on the job.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    11 ай бұрын

    LOL I know

  • @heidenfelderkustoms1502
    @heidenfelderkustoms15026 ай бұрын

    What area do you work in? I’m looking for someone to do the concrete and block work on my home.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    6 ай бұрын

    Oswego county New York State.

  • @bruceking5173
    @bruceking51738 ай бұрын

    so they filled the sump pump openings that were formed with concrete. that seems a bit odd. wouldn't you want to keep that area open to place the sump pump?

  • @stipcrane
    @stipcrane2 жыл бұрын

    ICFs are super attractive to novice builders who don't have enough experience to avert disasters like this. "What could be easier to build than giant foam blocks?" I realized that identical diagonal measurements are actually deceptive if all the other distances are not perfect. It totally makes sense, but sometimes we trust the diagonal as the gold standard, and forget it's only as good as the distances it is based on. "Oh well, the tapers will be able to make it look okay."

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya sucks just a couple double checks on measurements and it would have been perfect. Save a lot of messing around. The framers will actually be the ones fixing it. That's why the sill plate looked so weird.

  • @wallacegrommet9343

    @wallacegrommet9343

    8 ай бұрын

    Whenever I told my crew “ check that dimensions are uniform” They told me they didn’t want uniforms! Lol

  • @Boysinda
    @Boysinda2 жыл бұрын

    Mike Carr! In the building !!!!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup me and Mike team up a lot on this channel.

  • @stevegagnon9451
    @stevegagnon94512 жыл бұрын

    That shadow can’t affect thé curing that much , here in Ontario and Quebec we pour year round and believe me when I say it get really cold here lol

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    The shadow actually effects the way it dries alot especially on a warm sunny day like this. In the cold it would not effect it much at all.

  • @dsm9785
    @dsm97852 жыл бұрын

    foundation is a trapezoid; diagonal will always be the same. need to check all wall dimensions. once you pour it in concrete it's not easy to fix without a bulldozer. I've seen sills hang off the foundation worse than that, always amazed me why they did it.

  • @davez2989
    @davez29892 жыл бұрын

    out of square.. not good. but at the end of the day it will support a house and that is what the customer needs. we have all seen worse.

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    True it could always be worse.

  • @votemikejones86
    @votemikejones862 жыл бұрын

    Was this a BuildBlock project? If so, I'd love to chat with you about this project, thanks!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was a Buildblock project They painted the number on the walls. I know little about it as I only poured the floor.

  • @thomasroth4695
    @thomasroth46957 ай бұрын

    Both end walls are out ? 3-4-5?

  • @michaelmaas5544
    @michaelmaas55442 жыл бұрын

    35 years in construction and I’ve never seen a concrete truck like that!

  • @bondobuilt386

    @bondobuilt386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really? The front loader or the rear with conveyer?

  • @michaelmaas5544

    @michaelmaas5544

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bondobuilt386 The rear conveyer started in metro Detroit moved to northern Michigan 25 years ago and I’ve never seen one.

  • @wallacegrommet9343

    @wallacegrommet9343

    8 ай бұрын

    No front loaders in the Pacific Northwest!