When I left Islam in 2006 Ibn Warraq was the only person in the world I was aware of that had openly left Islam. Oh how times change. Now there are many ex-Muslims. I think the growth of the internet has been a game changer

@TByrom

4 жыл бұрын

Pakistani Atheist - Agreed. The internet was directly instrumental in my escape fro fundamentalist evangelical Christianity in 2015. Maintaining a delusion seems to require maintaining ignorance, and when a curious religious adherent has access to full information, the delusional state is jeopardized. You and I are here because it it🙂

@kayem3824

4 жыл бұрын

What's that avatar?

@whitefox8291

4 жыл бұрын

I left Islam 2 years ago too. I was Muslim for 38 years until I started watching atheist experience and realized no one could convince Matt dilahunty then decided to study religions

Spectacular interview!!! Thanks a million, FFRF for speaking w/ Ibm and sharing this discussion

I read Ibn Warraq's book Why I am not a Muslim and What the Quran Really says and I am definitely a fan

@brianlemaire4221

4 жыл бұрын

I am now halfway through 'Why I am not a Muslim'. Written with beautiful clarity and insight. So much so that my next step will be to read some of the books referred to in the bibliography of this book. In particular, 'The Age of Reason' by Thomas Paine.

As an ex-muslim I concur with Ibn Warraq about Islam being increasingly irrelevant and unjustifiable in the context of modern science, and the democratic values and practices aspired to by the modern age.. Many people(at least nominally) stay in Islam because it gives them identity and sense of community, but social networking and the growing ex-muslim community are increasingly seen as an alternative. It would greatly help the cause of ex-muslims if the West took a principled stand against the persecution of atheists and other minorities in the Muslim world ( many of whom are considered "allies" ), instead of turning a blind eye or worse appeasing these authoritarian regimes for some "Geo-political objectives".

I really enjoyed this thoughtful interview, and I’ve got some good ideas in books to read. Thanks ⭐️

@anirbansadhukhan4681

3 жыл бұрын

Religion is a belief system. It is good to get rid of it. But it is not prudent for us to abandon seeking. There is no harm in making inquiries into the Supraphysical.

Its sad that he never knew his mother. She would have been immensely proud of him--a fearless free-thinker and scholar.

Consistency is so important when criticising religious ideas and the affect they have on people, especially of one’s idea of advocating for human rights is universalist. Cultural relativism which sneaked in with the policy of multiculturalism has harmed individual people in our own societies trapped inside groups that are isolated, whether that isolation was intentional by the group, or unintentional because of the bigotry the group was subjected to by dominant groups. One law for all is the way to go and people in authority who apply our laws unequally should be held accountable. Believe whatever you want as an individual and congregate with others of like minded beliefs too if you want, but don’t impose your beliefs on others, especially children who should be given a broad education so they can decide for themselves. Thank you FFRF for hosting this man. I hope his upcoming book is a great success.

"The Mysterious Treatise of the Three Imposters: Moses, Christ and Muhammed" sounds like a must read fascinating book! I am very well versed in the subject of Moses and Christ, but know nothing about the Muslim religion or it's factual authorship. I am an atheist and a very proud member of FFRF.

Brilliant talk - Many thanks for posting this.

A brilliant thinker... Grate you have invited him. He rarely appears for an interview, therefore difficult to be accessed on utube.

I am happy to view this video with an Ex Muslim. It's good to see a broad range of religions. Have you examined the Baha'i Faith, which originated out of Persia/Iran in the mid 1800's and is now a world wide religion?

As always, a very interesting and informative show. Thanks to everyone.

Very interesting and informative guest. Thank you for this interview.

Happy to see Ibn Warraq. His book influenced me to study early Islam and scripture criticise of Quran.

Great to hear there are glimmers of hope coming from the Muslim community too!

FIY (the beautiful lady interviewer) , Omar Khayam was Persian, not Arab! It's interesting how from the viewpoint of westerners, and pretty much the rest of non-Middle Eastern world, Middle East is one homogeneous being. Comparing ancient Persia with Arabia, is as weird as likening polar bears with eagles!

Ibn Warraq is a brave man, a real hero. His "Why I am not a Muslim" is eloquent and persuasive.

His book Leaving Islam revolutionized my understand of Islam, I'm forever grateful for it.

Wow. It is also a positive promotion of rationalsim.

Great conversation. When his book, The Allah Delusion, is expected to be available? Please try to answer this question, please!

Wow, we are starting a quiet revolution. Any fellow Indonesian exmuslims here?

❤, good show. Also did Dan play/arrange the music? that tune is a real earworm, can't get it out of my head.😀👍

@YY4Me133

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if Dan played and/or arranged the music, but, for those not familiar with the tune, it's _It Ain't Necessarily So,_ from _Porgy and Bess,_ by George and Ira Gershwin. It has great lyrics, including: "The things that you're liable "To read in the Bible "It ain't necessarily so"

A brave man who has released many excellent reads.

Very brave and inspirational gent

Very cool ad.

Watched all of it

True. There is no definite moment; it's a gradual process to accept rationalism.

After 9/11, the wake-up event, I read the Koran to understand the hijackers better. Its organization was impossible to figure out, but I couldn't believe anyone would consider this a good book on the ideal life. I was glad to find Ibn Warraq's "Why I'm Not a Muslim" to help me understand. It should have had more effect on soft Christians and the obvious faults in the Bible. I'm so glad to finally see him in person, continuing the fight for Reason in the world, which, unfortunately, has been set back by Christian Nationalists' propaganda more and more and the recently chaotic, Trumpian world of too much of the U.S.A. and its Supreme Court.

1 Ibn Warraq = x Tariq Ramdan, where x is ........ What a gem of an ex-Indian/Pakistani community. Having learnt about the Freedom at Midnight (horrors on Indian independence), either one should be fanatic or an atheist, or a a moron, of course.

Ibn Warraq's voice is uncannily similar to Keith Richard's...

Did those who write Quran, knee classical Arabic? Actually you can't learn all the languages of the world, you have to be reply on translation.

Too bad technology of paper making was not available in Mo's time. It was only much later that paper became used!

23:23 Ironic that in USA many Christians cry about persecution just because other holidays are taken into account in December, and because LGBTQ people aren't treated as badly as before, and because it is no longer legal to teachers to force children to pray. Meanwhile in Islamic countries Christians actually are persecuted for real and it is ignored. I have also heard that the Christian witch hunter Helen Ukpabio in Nigeria gets American financial support. Why can't that money go to Christians who are persecuted, instead of a Christian who is persecuting others?

is he still alive?

@anand9728

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

01:14

I like your "FFRF' ad in a recent Summer 2022 issue of "Scientific American" since monotheism is a spectrum of a Orwellian Heinlein forensic militaristic police state such as Islamic Moslems of an Atwoodian extreme of The vile Christian Right and of course Jules Verne and Arthur Coan Doyle both referred to Mormons as "North American Moslems" both of a "third testament" while polytheism is a spectrum of Asimov Huxleyan decadent labor psychiatry consumerist hedonism such as how religious temples of India are really whorehouses staffed by young underage boys as they were in Ancient Greco-Roman Hellenic civilizations. SInce a Burka, and or Hajib is prior art on Atwood's story about a "Pro Life religionists who force invitro surrogate pregnancies to breed golems or cannon fodder" does Atwood have a copyright issue about such an excellent ad? Other issue is Europeans cannot handle religion having similarities to alcoholism.

I think we can be good 😜 no knowledge of history

The Qurán, as stated by Ibn Warraq, is a book that promotes horrible violence against "non-believers." For example, "The recompense of those who fight Allah and His messenger, and seek to make corruption in the land, is that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from alternate sides or that they be banished from the land; that is their disgrace in this world and in the Hereafter they will have a great torment." (Qur'an 5:33) So in other words, those who defy Muslims and fight them, when they fall in battle, Muslims are told not just to kill the poor guys, but first inflict incredibly horrible punishment of cutting off their right hand and left foot, just so they won't come back and fight. Now, Muslims apologists like to blame this on an pharaoh, whoever he was, saying "The pharaoh said so, to do so." Talk about passing the buck.