I never comment on youtube but but this guy is awesome ! Super honest and logical.

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

Gotta keep it real and honest! Thanks for watching!

You just saved me time and money, I was committed to building on bubble and in one vidoe you have helped me in my company research to find if its the best or not. I trust your judgement and your explanation were spot on. Very appreciated keep up the good work will do the like share and follow 👍 😀

This information is gold! Thank you Adrian. I was lost and feels like Bubble has hijacked the script of no-code Saas on 99% of KZread.

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Have been using Bubble since 2018. Bubble's price change will cause my monthly costs to go from 150 a month to over 2k, so I am forced to shut down this October when that takes effect.

This is the underrated video every nocode developer should look out for. Vendor locked in is a no no, even when building an MVP, I don’t see the reason why I should start my project all over again because of a vendor locked in issue. Thank you for this video.

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

You’re most welcome! And i 100% agree with you.

@nocodealliance

7 ай бұрын

Have fun validating your idea at 50% the speed because you’re already planning for your million dollar exit. You’re putting the cart before the horse. Bubble gives you the best path to get to market and find PMF. And until that happens, nothing else matters.

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

Bubble isn’t the only no code tool out there. 🤷 And I don’t think anyone talked about a million dollar exit.

@customersupport9055

6 ай бұрын

@@adrianchingwhich no code tool would recommend then, for a long term business?

@sharaudramey9336

4 ай бұрын

​@@nocodeallianceAloha, what is pmf?

As a tech savvy CTO, project engineer and others, i can ONLY recommend no code tools for MVPs or simple products that need to launch fast. Or... if you really have no tech experience and want to build, again, a SIMPLE product to test the market. It is always recommended to, once tested, hire or get a tech savvy partner who can build the application. No code should be for idea validation, pitching a product to investors or testing an mvp. Although there are more complex no code tools that, as adrian said, let you export the source code, so i support his support on these tools, as vendor lock in is probably the biggest issue with no or low code tools. Good video btw

@adrianching

10 ай бұрын

Spot on! Same conclusion. Maybe one day all the tools will be good enough for further development but we're not there yet. Still great tools to help us build that MVP FAST!

@amirnathoo4600

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Once you have learned the no-code tool, typically you will be able to develop an MVP real fast, not worry too much about performance and have minimal security in place. That MVP should be for your super early customers who don't mind using something minimal. You could go as far as even having your early adopters (i.e paying customers). Once you have that, you should be in a good place to start pitching your idea, join an accelerator and then start building the actual product from code... The added benefit of using the no-code tool is also that you will get a head-start on the design and your data model.

@Scuurpro

3 ай бұрын

I have 50 thousand views a month on my bubble app. However I use xano as my backend.

@user-hw9zq8ol8g

11 күн бұрын

Don't agree! I've seen many times when complex products in organizations - made by "tech savvy partners" - are getting obsolete, replaced by more user-friendly apps, or dismissed by new team leaders who call the code crap... HUGE resources wasted... Absolutely no guarantee that the code made by tech partners will be relevant or scalable or better functioning than the app built on bubble... The speaker made an argument about the "greedy bubble"... Well, as a startup owner, I can say that Bubble costs NEXT TO NOTHING compared to hiring a team of developers... I'd say, use Bubble for MVP, but especially - for building long-term scalable projects!

Very strong points! I wish I knew this sooner instead of having already spent so much time learning bubble. I'm now looking at other alternatives, especially flutterflow, because of bubble's new workload unit pricing model.

@adrianching

10 ай бұрын

The idea of this video is to help generate more awareness to prevent what just happened to you! Though I'm not saying Bubble is not good, it's still useful for the right use case.

@iiwakenashi

5 ай бұрын

yeah bro, same HERE :(

@EliteUmmah

4 ай бұрын

is flutterflow better than bubble? i want to make a complex app

Good work! Lovely stuff we get to get lost in! You'll never go obsolete!

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

That's the plan! Thanks!

Lots of good lessons here. Thanks Adrian.

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Most welcome! Thanks for watching!

Well, idk if you will comment or not, but i have an idea but idk if i can build that on bubble or any other no code saas option. i want to make something like instantly ai. can you tell me if i can make it or not

hi , very good video and info - do any of the alternatives that you suggested allow a multivendor market place where a small payments can be accepted without commission), I cant use stripe on Bubble because it charges 30 cents per transaction etc and i only want to charge that amount when users pay for a link, to a job /small task. would appreciate any advice you have. thanks , Patrick

Loved the video! Made this error in the past, wont do it again - no matter the tool

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! Made this video a little too late for you but hopefully it'll help more in the future!

It depends. I think you can build Bubble with scaling in mind. Like for our case, we started solely with Bubble, but when we were hitting tens and thousands of users concurrently, we moved some backend components out of it (using mostly AWS services instead). It allows our non-tech CEO to make some quick UI changes on Bubble, while our tech team takes care of the connected microservices hosted elsewhere.

@alainportant6412

5 ай бұрын

What is it the Projetxt

@dutterR

4 ай бұрын

website url plz. Thanks

Preach!! Bubble and other low-code tools are good for MVPs or very small projects that can go away or be rebuilt quickly if necessary. Not long-term projects or commitments. I think what you say is the same for places like KZread. If YT decides to close your channel, have another avenue ready to fire up. Also, do your best to promote your website and capture emails to help in this situation.

@adrianching

8 ай бұрын

Yeap! We're definitely doing that too! 😉

@antiokh

3 күн бұрын

Lol, say it to happy ff/weweb + n8n + supabase project owners which can scale and self-host all parts of the project without vendor-lock. Export and scale/work with the code itself.

This is my First day When I decided to learn bubble, But After I saw this video I am thinking for others alternatives

@adrianching

8 ай бұрын

Bubble is still a great tool! Just that it might not be for everyone and I wanted to make sure those who're watching our videos can see the pros and cons of it.

hi, to build web app, what custom code may be needed?

Thanks for your thoughts, all very reasonable

@adrianching

8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

You are an awesome presenter man. Funny and knowledgeable. Keep going!

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Great insight. Thank you for this.

@adrianching

2 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Your so right , thanks for the final last word

@adrianching

11 күн бұрын

You got it my man!

You saved me so much headache. Thank you Sir

@adrianching

6 ай бұрын

The goal of this video. Happy to hear that!

100% agreed vendor lock in is the trashiest drawback. There is absolutely no way I would start with a vendor lock in, they would basically own me. It's a platform, not a boss who screws you over.

Then what's the solution when you want to create your saas a very small team (me myself and i actually) and you don't want to necessarily pay a wole team to expand and become dependent of them?

@sean-pnc

3 ай бұрын

This is EXACTLY the point of Bubble 👍

Thank you for this video, saved me!

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what this video is all about! You're most welcome!

Thank you 🙏 Very informative

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching too! 🙏

Great video, really good points

I really like your videos. They're super intelligent and no-nonsense. Thank you! What if someone wants to build an MVP with no code--has some tech skills--but still finds Bubble to have a steep learning curve? What would you recommend? (I will watch more of your videos--I'll bet that question is answered somewhere). While I'm tempted by Bubble, I wonder if there's something out there that's a little easier to use. Bubble seems like it could be overwhelming. I've noticed there are many Bubble developers. If so, then how easy is it, I wonder... Btw, I want something that would connect to Open AI and Chat GPT, but not just to fill it with info to spit back out. Instead, I'd want it to function as a tutor (meaning, lots of prompts and workflows) + plugins. Does that have to be Bubble? Thanks!

@IgorEspagna

24 күн бұрын

ha-ha, no answer!

Im new to no code, Saas. well everything. Any starting points for someone trying to change career paths without school help? What are some bransches to focus on learning for 2024 and forwards!

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

You would like to focus on no code? The best path moving forward is definitely to start using the tool to build real applications. Look for official tutorial as most of them will have it. Start with a tool, and actually build something is the best way to learn.

@acebenhood7671

9 ай бұрын

@@adrianching What tools would you recommend for no Saas. Also would you say thats the correct path to follow? Or rather some other part of tech that is useful to learn now and for the future!

@waynelast1685

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@acebenhood7671I’m like you too. I’m not expert but two tech categories are DEV OPS and ML OPS. Maybe Adrian has better answers.

@bryanlee5522

5 ай бұрын

learn fundamentals of code and then use AI to fill in the gaps. there's no reason for no-code anymore. Ai can produce code so you don't need to know alot. also theres many services / libraries that help with it. there's also boilerplates that have most things packaged. there's no reason to do no-code. spend a couple hundred hours learning code and be happy you can achieve as much as someone who spent thousands of hours. 2 hours a day for 3 months learning code and you'll know enough to be able to build any app with help by AI. I'd recommend learning just basics of html and css (don't go crazy learning all the syntax, AI can produce most of this code) and then take a good course in javascript and then react and then next.js. react can do mobile too. then you get a boilerplate and modify it with help by AI and use various packages and libraries, for example a content management system for backend. Whatever you do, make sure to only take newest courses on these technologies. do research and make sure it's not old. The tech changes so fast that a lot of the stuff isn't relevant anymore. Like if you're learning react / next, make sure the course is with the newest version. Another problem is GPT doesn't know new versions of these technologies so its a pain and you have to copy paste docs into it. that will confuse a beginner when it gives an output with older version

Can you tell me the best no code builders that you recommend to build a SAAS? not a mobile app

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

There's no best no code builder. It all depends on your use case and needs. In this video, I shared why I wouldn't use Bubble for building my own SaaS. But it is still a good choice if you would like to start quickly using no code. Check out this video where I share other no code builders: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZp51c-EoanTl7w.html

@abdusalamidris4873

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this info. Which lowcode platform will you recommend that allows you to integrate AIChatbot through API calls and you still have the codebase

Hey Adrian what is the best website then to build a no code saas as a beginner

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

It depends on your use case. Check out this other video I have on Bubble alternatives: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZp51c-EoanTl7w.html

Love this honesty

@adrianching

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Just sharing what I think everyone should know.

What do you like for what I call "pro code" or "full code" platforms? .Net Core, Django, MERN/MEAN, Rails, Laravel ...?

@adrianching

5 ай бұрын

We use Ruby on Rails, NestJS, ReactJS and React Native.

@axeo123

5 ай бұрын

Noted, thanks.

Please help me make this decision. Currently i am planning to start off my SAAS company. I am a non technical person. I am looking for a nocode where i can build easily and once build i have the code to it also if i have to scale it up using real code. What tool can i start with.

@EliteUmmah

4 ай бұрын

F

I would love some opinions on this. Im building a site with bubble that will change the sociale care system in my country. (if everything goes to plan). I have no experience with coding and tried a few already. Bubble is the first one that actually got me to almost finishing the skeleton of my site/app. There is a big chance that if my project succeedes I willl get some big fundings to make it even better and work out all the bugs proffesionally. I just need a program to show them how the whole care system can be different. Bubble allows me to do that. Im planning on using the funding to let proffs create an app/site on a non vender lock in platform. I just need traction to get there and i think bubble will be the platform for me to do that. I have the social connection but not the dev skills. I don understand the dangeres of this vendor lock shit.

so underrated i immediately subscribed

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

Appreciate it. 🙏🏻

Risk about rebuild app where mean from zero 😢 which you can not be the same

Interesting, lots to think about and talk with partners with. I don't find it the easiest interface either. Very frustrating!

@adrianching

3 ай бұрын

Tell me about it. Hahaha. Definitely talk to your partners. Not a small decision to make.

Спасибо за работу Вашей команды!

@adrianching

6 ай бұрын

I don't know the language but Google Translate is telling me this: "Thanks for the work of your team!" Hahaha! I've got a great team that makes things happen 100%!

My developer friend suggested using AWS Amplify. Any thoughts on that?

@stevetb7777

7 ай бұрын

AWF Amplify is a backend-as-a-service like Google Firebase. It's not a frontend builder.. I was just reading about it yesterday. If you're working with a no code platform you probably aren't going to use AWS Amplify I imagine, that get extremely technical. A platform like Bubble is full-stack, meaning it handles all your database stuff too, I believe.

thank you for your info. that's golden. what do you think about coding with scratch? it's worth to give time at 2024

@adrianching

Ай бұрын

Coding from scratch is what me and my team do all day everyday. 😉

where can i learn how to use flutterflow

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

Flutterflow has an official course: kzread.info/head/PLsUp7t2vRqx-xMe6gucpfjeDgIj0tJRIm

Bubble raised $100M.[12] Bubble was named one of Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies of 2021., Web traffic to Bubble's websites have increased at a compounded growth rate greater than 50% from 2017 to 2021 ( Wikipedia )

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Thats because no code demand grew as a whole too. But i’m not saying Bubble is not a great product, just saying I don’t like that vendor lock in 🤷🏻‍♂️

Which of these alternatives do you think is best?

@adrianching

5 ай бұрын

Whether it is the best or not actually depends a lot on your situation and need. Recently came across Plasmic which is so far the best for my case (i’m a dev)

Vwry Insightful... But what's Vendor Lock In?

@adrianching

8 ай бұрын

Basically means you're locked into using the tool forever and not able to export code from it. So you'll have to rebuild from scratch or keep using their platform.

@BlkArabian

8 ай бұрын

@@adrianching oh Thank You Boss

which is the best alternative to Bubble?

@antiokh

3 күн бұрын

weweb/flutterflow + xano (or Firebase/Supabase if you have the skills).

Transitioning from Bubble to WeWeb x Xano 🚀

@ashraffaridharis5570

9 ай бұрын

do you regret using bubble in the first place?

@adrianching

9 ай бұрын

I'm guessing rebuilding everything from scratch then? How's weweb + xano so far?

@ranavikrant

9 ай бұрын

@@ashraffaridharis5570 Nope. It's a great tool to build fast. If someone comes from a total non coding background, I reckon Bubble would be easier to get started and build with because everything is at one place and there are ton of resources available.

@ranavikrant

9 ай бұрын

@@adrianching Rebuilding my portfolio apps and creating a how to build tutorial series with both. The integration with Xano is super smooth. WeWeb does require an understanding of CS concepts to build frontend logic but I am super impressed with its overall capabilities!

@klaaskay2685

9 ай бұрын

@@ranavikrant Compared with Flutterflow, should I go with Weweb + Xano? I want to start learning with nocode but can't decide which tool to go as a long term investment.

So agree❤ good job

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I'm thinking that using boilerplates may be the best option. there are some great boilerplates out nowadays that have most everything out of the box. I mean its not no-code but apps nowadays aren't that difficult to make with all the libraries and services. and with AI nowadays, it makes it even easier. I built an app recently and I know how to code, but most of the code was produced with AI with me just supervising it. I think no-code is maybe not relevant anymore because so much of code has been abstracted away and with AI being able to produce code and help with it, i don't see the point in it anymore. We also didn't have these extensive saas boilerplates years ago either. Code is still a major pain in the ass with annoying bugs that even AI won't help with, however.

Great value as always 👏🏿 👌

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Glad you think so! TQ!

@chitdigital7057

4 ай бұрын

@@adrianching what is TQ?

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

@@chitdigital7057 Thank you 😅

You said you can iterate with “what”? 4:30

@adrianching

8 ай бұрын

Iterate beyond MVP is what I said there. You can turn on caption and you'll see what I said too.

Bubble handles both front-end and back-end, while weweb only handles front-end. If you are a complete noob bubble is a way to go imho. Maybe I am wrong but I am going with bubble. 7 figure business? If I plan and deploy something on bubble which nets me 100k a year I will be happy as a kid. And if it goes well then I will definitely have funds to rebuild my mvp from scratch. I don't want to be rude but I get the feeling that this video is overstretching a bit and has clickbait vibes to me.

@adrianching

3 ай бұрын

You do you. Not saying Bubble is not for everyone, just sharing my thoughts. If Bubble works for you, that’s great! 😁

@alexivanov5556

3 ай бұрын

@@adrianching Thank you for your response!

what do people think of Rubber?

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately never heard of Rubber before. 😅 Way too many of them out there

@Nerd.Immunity.

7 ай бұрын

@@adrianching it’s so simple even I can use it!

Is Zoho creator vendor locked ???

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

At first glance, i think that might be a yes. But i don't know the tool well enough so i might be wrong! Look for ways to export code, if not, then it'll be a yes.

How do I learn weweb

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

Weweb has their official resource on learning the tool. Check out the weweb academy here: www.weweb.io/academy

First time I've seen the swear word in the subtitles but the audio was bleeped. Usually, the KZreadr says it and the subtitles say "___".

@adrianching

3 ай бұрын

Hahahahahahaha! Gotta let my team know about this.

If you want to hear the alternatives, go to 3:00.

@adrianching

7 ай бұрын

Yeap. Just some suggestions on alternatives. Got another vid coming up on one of the best alternatives I've seen in a while. Stay tuned!

@AndreiPascu

7 ай бұрын

@@adrianching w, ill keep an eye for that

How much is weweb paying you to trash bubble ?

@adrianching

3 ай бұрын

Zero

For the algo ;)

@ashraffaridharis5570

10 ай бұрын

for the rythm!

@adrianching

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha! Thanks!

@Sanhueza2013

9 ай бұрын

yeah!

just build on bubble and when you want to move over just scrape the site and get its src code😂

@adrianching

3 ай бұрын

You'll only be able to get the frontend. Not the backend logics, database, etc. So... nope, this won't work. 😂

Sucks that all these fancy web editors are proprietary trash. This is the way to build websites

if you're going to show text, give your viewers a chance to read it. you showed it for 2 seconds while narrating something. do you expect me to read the entire text in a quarter of a second?

@adrianching

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Will let my team know. Meanwhile, you can always pause the video to read. Thanks for being here!

@MarlonSha-rq5iq

4 ай бұрын

If you can't read at the level if a 7 year old then good luck trying to use a no code app

@fireberg_eth

4 ай бұрын

Press pause my dude

@suckafreecee2047

3 ай бұрын

I pressed pause without even thinking about it. Creators normally post captions long enough to keep up with what they're talking about.

@agentred8732

3 ай бұрын

The text flies by too fast to pause, people. Be nice.

I wouldn't take advice from a guy who barely speak English.

@Adalo. ??

@flutterflow

@adrianching

10 ай бұрын

Got something coming up for @FlutterFlow too! Stay tuned!