this is NOT a free way to watch the movie, i highly recommend you to watch the movie on its own on netflix before watching this video to have more context on the scenes i talk about. As well as for the end review since i discuss scenes i didnt include in the video.

@hulkmaster6272

4 жыл бұрын

I was teh first comment check

@nia.r5988

4 жыл бұрын

@@hulkmaster6272 I was the second ha

@myanne741

4 жыл бұрын

Genevieve Rutherfurd I was the third ha. (Jk I’m not like that.)

@toadt0ad

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i should’ve waiting and watched the movie first but i’m still for sure gonna watch it when i have a chance :)

@lexyhall3033

4 жыл бұрын

Trin: bikes+lgbtq=😍

when I realized they called her chu Chu because her last name is Chu and because she works at the train station I had a full on reset

@LovellTrin

4 жыл бұрын

OMG

@adaora2851

4 жыл бұрын

Well now I feel real stupid

@tss5320

4 жыл бұрын

i realized that like a day after watching it 😂😂😂

@thighgod9677

4 жыл бұрын

Same when I realised I just loudly said: *OH*

@angelinaxtriana

4 жыл бұрын

my dumbass was like 'is that the best they can come up with' BUT ITS A GENIUS INSULT

You missed the best part of the movie when his mom says it's okay if he's gay and he says he wants to change the sausage recipe and then she gets mad

@gabippo5638

4 жыл бұрын

Carly Brianna same energy as the trans remy meme 😭

@supercalime

4 жыл бұрын

She didn’t miss it. The video is almost half an hour. Trin has to edit stuff out.

@billbuttlicker1248

4 жыл бұрын

Also him looking up “how to know if your gay” is the most relatable thing in the movie💀

@tired607

3 жыл бұрын

i don’t get it...

@evepower8460

3 жыл бұрын

@@tired607 It’s funny because she’s fine with him being gay but she draws the line at him changing the sausage recipe. It’s just a fun subversion of expectations

I really liked this movie. At the beginning they say "it's not a love story" and it wasn't. They talked about soulmates and I think that Ellies Soulmate was her friend Paul and not Aster. They weren't soulmates in a romantic way, but in a platonic way. I also really enjoyed how they grew in this story and how Ellie and Paul brought out the best in each other. I'm not mad or sad that the movie ended that way, it was fitting (and a parallel to how Ellie hated the chasing-after-train-scene and then got one herself; sorry I'm a sucker for parallels). This movie wasn't about love it was about finding friendship and your voice/yourself.

@Freezient

4 жыл бұрын

I am sucker for platonic soul mates, best friends soul mates, those don’t get much attention in media

@tia4337

4 жыл бұрын

still ships ellie and aster

@marlee1913

4 жыл бұрын

invisible nicky yasssss

@emmicori

4 жыл бұрын

YES!!! THIS. I feel like it also showed you can have a happy ending without getting into a relationship

@kyanderson3

3 жыл бұрын

It would actually be good if the acting wasn't shit.

Trin at the end of movie: "I thought this was going to be a love story" Narration at beginning of movie: "Oh, and in case you where wondering, this isn't a love story"

“I appreciate bikes in gay cinema” I strangely understand

@marbnielk6951

4 жыл бұрын

Why does it make so much sense

@gelembungplay

4 жыл бұрын

I dont get it :(

@colonelsanders1536

4 жыл бұрын

Macy K hayley kiyokos girls like girls mv established this rule TELL ME IM WRONG

@diren9327

4 жыл бұрын

call me by your name flashbacks

@squeezie_b8895

4 жыл бұрын

Also the Selena Gomez Bad Liar music video

"love is messy and horrible and selfish... And bold" Favorite quote from that movie!

When Aster went to slap Paul she looked straight ahead at Ellie while walking towards him, slapping him, and walking away, just like how when she was sending letters to paul, Ellie was the one who read them. That's like the most metaphorical slap I've ever seen on TV lmaoo.

@ligli500

3 жыл бұрын

omg you're a GENIUS though

@Sarah-ke3jg

Жыл бұрын

@@ligli500 HAHAH thanku

"I just feel like bikes are a crucial part of LGBT-Cinema" Me, a lesbian who can't ride bikes: *sadly gulps*

@Chris-ot9bk

4 жыл бұрын

Mood

@antoporoto

4 жыл бұрын

same

@DonnaBrooks

4 жыл бұрын

Get an adult trike! I have a heavy duty trike w/ a huge "basket" (more like a metal wagon) attached to the back! I got mine cheap from a bike co-op. Twice a year OSU does a sweep of their properties & any bike or trike that has been abandoned is put in a warehouse. If the bike or trike isn't claimed after 3 months, they donate the bikes to the Third Hand Bike co-op who fixes them up & sells them for a fraction of the cost of buying it new. They also let people use their shop for bike maintenance & repair, teach people to repair their bikes, etc.

@elenazennaro

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry. I'll teach you.

@mia-ek8op

4 жыл бұрын

Same I cannot ride a bike to save my life and I am bi

At the end I think this movie isn't a love story, it's about the friendship. The director talked about how this movie was born because of distancing from her best friend. The love story is just a sub plot.

@metro04

4 жыл бұрын

I like thinking about it that way as well

@dragonsareawesome123

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. This movie was really about the importance of other kinds of love other than romantic, which makes sense that Alice would want to emphasize that since she lost her friendship with her best friend because his girlfriend didn't like that they had such a close platonic friendship.

@selty

4 жыл бұрын

I loved that ending, how it focused on their friendship and his support of her. I cried so muchhhh!

@cscmusicbook

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s why I’m constantly annoyed when people refer to it as a rom-com instead of coming of age, since I feel that it focuses on Ellie as a person more than the romance.

@varonicag3420

4 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree!

I don't think he was trying to hurt her when he said "you're going to hell" to get back at her or sth. I think that they wanted to potray how he is so simple and naive and franky stupid that he believes word for word everything his church/family says. I think he genuinely believes in that moment that his friend is damned and is shocked and terrified for her and yet some part of him even in that moment isn't quite convinced. He is torn between what his heart feels and what the world has been teaching him his whole life. Thankfully by the end of the movie he makes up his own mind and stops acting like a sheep.

@HelloKittysFriend418

4 жыл бұрын

totally agree

@carlaamaee

4 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@EvaWhoDraws

4 жыл бұрын

paj 1492 exactly!

@VicenteTorresAliasVits

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. And that's why, not long after that, he researches about homosexuality online, instead of cutting her out of his life.

@tasneemlukmanjee7873

4 жыл бұрын

paj 1492 Y E S. thank you for seeing this the same way i did!

Everyone's so pissed at Aster lmao, but I kind of understand her. She's in a small religious town that she can't get out of, where the most that you'll get after highschool is maybe a good husband and some kids. She was super unhappy in her relationship (cause it seemed to be arranged, the guy didn't even like her) and she even asks Ellie if she should accept if her boyfriend proposes. She's just realizing that maybe she should settle because it's the best that she'll get. As much as cheating is horrible and unexcusable, in a town like that you can't just get out of the closet. Idk, she was not my favorite character at all but I did like appreciate her. Also, the "you're going to hell" scene broke my heart into pieces, but Paul doesn't seem to be mad at her or trying to insult her. He seems scared, like genuinely scared that Ellie will go to hell because he cares so much about her. As much as I cried, it was cute that he investigated about it and then stood up for her. He was my favorite character, like super sweet and honestly kinda funny. I loved Paul.

@abbyryan7410

3 жыл бұрын

My father lived in a conservative town in Texas and was raised to think that LGBTQ were going to hell. When he moved to California he made friends with a lesbian, and one day they had a conversation about religion and he told her he thought she was going to hell (she asked, it wasn’t unprompted). He was crying and there were lots of hugs. So I think I understand Paul’s reaction to be similar to how you explained it.

I was surprised to see that a lot of people didn't get the scene where Aster goes to Paul after dropping off Ellie. I know it seemed awkward but the awkwardness is actually what made me understand it. Aster is conflicted and scared, she just felt something deep and honest with Ellie that made her question herself and her beliefs and it was unnerving. The only other person she thinks she has ever felt that way with is Paul (how she says he write things that make her feel unsafe) so she goes to him almost in a sense of desperation, to find some grounding, something that feels like it should be the right path but it's off cus neither of them are on the same page. Aster's confused and Paul is completely in the dark, he has no idea what she actually needs cus he doesn't really know her and he has no idea who she thinks he even really is. The God question was sort of like a test and I don't think Aster knew what answer she wanted but the answer Paul gave was the standard safe, answer and I think in that moment Aster realised that that wasn't the answer she wanted and she probably flashed right back to her convo with Ellie and how easy it was for her to express her anxieties to Ellie in contrast to how supposedly "safe" and "right" but incredibly awkward the interaction she's having with Paul is, so she kisses him in an attempt to just make herself feel something and stick to the status quo and ignore her confused feelings. It seems like she's fine but it's uncomfortable and tense for Aster, for Paul and for the audience because sometimes growing up and figuring out who you are is uncomfortable and intense and awkward.

@boboblueblue2

4 жыл бұрын

God! I love this comment! You hit the nail on the fucking head! I never knew it went that deep but when watching it I felt that she went to Paul to get some sort of answer. Idk which one but something that would make her change her point of view like she had in all of the letters. Then Paul just gives her the standard answer and you see in her face that she is so disappointed. That was the moment I thought she realized that she did not love Paul.

@kaiv.r9078

4 жыл бұрын

This was so beautifully worded. I came into the comment section to say exactly this but you got it perfectly already. Amazing

@tinydreamerrr

4 жыл бұрын

yesss!!! 👏

@EvoandShan

4 жыл бұрын

Aster is inlove with ellie ever since she laid her eyes on her, she just doesn't want to accept it to herself. Look for the deleted scene, where she confessed to the priest her secret, and wishing that someone would have the same feeling.

@kaiv.r9078

4 жыл бұрын

Maricel Natividad tysm for this info

no-one: trin: brings up glee references in everything somehow

@localcthulhu3081

4 жыл бұрын

Trin is me

@lupin.m9905

4 жыл бұрын

Me actually understand every references she said with glee

@charlotte8765

4 жыл бұрын

Let’s be honest it’s not a Trin Lovell video with out at least two Glee references...

@ivo3185

4 жыл бұрын

As she should

@saracoutinho3398

4 жыл бұрын

Queen of Gleeks

when trin moved around posing, verbalizing her confusion: I felt that

The fact that Paul acknowledged that people can have different sexual orientations and it’s a valid form of love and also that he can love Ellie platonically and that’s also a valid form of love in a single himbo comment. His two brain cells are putting in *work*.

One of my favorite scenes in the movie is when Emily’s dad has that moment with Paul, and he can’t speak English well. But Paul just stands there and listens to him, and it was just so sweet and I love his movie so much.

@yb7689

3 жыл бұрын

That scene warmed my heart so much, my mom doesn’t speak English well and she always tries her best to get to know my friends so that scene (although she speaks better English) just reminded me of whenever I’d bring my friends to my house and my mom would chat them up 🥺🥺🥺

This should’ve been titled ‘trin Lovell fangirling over gay Asian girls for 27 minutes straight’

@rebeccabrodkey

4 жыл бұрын

Literally the second I saw this movie I was looking forward to this reaction

@peekarae

4 жыл бұрын

literally me thoo

@Ally-he8id

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing straight bout it, hun

@Blackkey034

4 жыл бұрын

Theyre gay?

@cb-fn1oo

4 жыл бұрын

Did you mean 27 minutes gay?

“I like that girl she smells like fresh ground flour.” Trin: W H E A T

@eth6757

4 жыл бұрын

She smells wheaty

@susanmaggiora4800

4 жыл бұрын

Incognito Burrito I used to date a girl that smelled like just picked, fresh corn...

@aestheticvirgocoochie20yea45

4 жыл бұрын

Susan Maggiora did you eat her?

@susanmaggiora4800

4 жыл бұрын

aesthetic virgo coochie • 20 years ago Nope, just shucked her...😏

@camillepetty9087

4 жыл бұрын

Susan Maggiora did you guys end up?

“i love her voice” i thought i was the only one who fell in love with leah lewis’s voice 😂💕

@Girlforaction

4 жыл бұрын

It's sexy.

@Bunny-ks1md

4 жыл бұрын

My mom and I kept saying how much we loved her voice throughout the whole movie.

@thgritic102

3 жыл бұрын

Low voices represent!

@notwerkinginthishouse8634

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bunny-ks1md goals I love her voice too and the way that she looks at her

@jennyc2173

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know how to explain it, but its very raw and her articulation in words just sounds smooth

The I like your nails comment is code for "I'm gay are you?" change my mind

@miamafalda1118

4 жыл бұрын

That's literally exactly what I thought LOL

@lpsloveandgame6046

4 жыл бұрын

I guess I have to be careful with compliments when my friends put effort in their manucure then damn

@annakolovou2686

4 жыл бұрын

I snorted when I first saw that scene for exactly that reason

@Madithemuggle

3 жыл бұрын

It was lesbian code that the straights didn’t pick up on. 😂😂😂

@devondeclan4302

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what my friend told me

the B in LGBT+ stands for Bike

@phoenixm4678

4 жыл бұрын

I am bike

@okayokay2376

4 жыл бұрын

E Mulligan same

@breanna4255

4 жыл бұрын

this is pure bittany from glee erasure.

@tatehayes5877

4 жыл бұрын

mom, dad, I'm b i k e

@breanna4255

4 жыл бұрын

@@Meepmeep579 its not just a boulder... its a rock 😓

no one: me and trini: *LESBIAN RIGHTS*

@zero-vd8jh

4 жыл бұрын

!!!!

"bikes are important in LGBT representation" *laughs in girls like girls*

@peachsouls

4 жыл бұрын

*laughs in Call Me By Your Name*

@Scaryflexible

3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Skam

@bambi5489

3 жыл бұрын

laughs in Euphoria

@notwerkinginthishouse8634

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scaryflexible so magical, omg i laughed how blond guy ran to his friend on a bike😂 i don't wanna spell their names wrong but i remember what kind were they

The worst part of this movie is when the teacher calls Squahamish “Hellquamish” instead of “Squahellmish”

@ELAINE-ep8if

4 жыл бұрын

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGH THE WHOLE MOVIE

@queenelizabeth8145

4 жыл бұрын

At least it's an accurate representation of people mispronouncing cities in Washington lol

the part where he says “you’re going to hell” made my heart sink.

@LovedByYou

4 жыл бұрын

He redeemed himself quick though.

@literalpoetrytrash3756

4 жыл бұрын

LovedBy You yeah, you really can’t be upset with him because he was just misinformed

@lanarobertson5831

4 жыл бұрын

grace hopkins me too

@varonicag3420

4 жыл бұрын

Same! I have a video of my reaction and when she pulled away I started to cry a little ( not because she didn’t like him but because he didn’t know and was hurt by that ) but then he said that and I wiped my tears ( was still very sad ) and continued on. Honestly when Trin said “we were all rooting for you” I felt that.

@insertnamehere4491

4 жыл бұрын

@@LovedByYou yet he never apologised to her

You went through every level of grief when we found out he’s homophobic 😂

@bog4543

4 жыл бұрын

Elizabeth Gomez but then he redeems himself 😌

@isabellagensler7295

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think homophobic just misinformed. They’re in a small town so I don’t really think there are any gay people there.

@that70sshow97

4 жыл бұрын

Isabella Gensler there are definitely lgbt people everywhere you go it’s just as you said small town they just don’t show in public because they don’t want hate

@DonnaBrooks

4 жыл бұрын

@@that70sshow97 When you live in a small town, it's not hate you fear from others; it's rejection. You can experience hate anywhere when you come out, including in big cities, and you can experience acceptance anywhere as well. The difference is that in a small town people know you & you are terrified of rejection. Rejection is not the same as hate.

“She smells wheaty” and *THAT’S* on yeast infections 🥰💕🧚‍♂️

@billbuttlicker1248

4 жыл бұрын

Eye-

@yveaperez8253

4 жыл бұрын

_oh sweet jesus_

@araaraurydice

4 жыл бұрын

ana opp--

@mirandarodriguez9766

4 жыл бұрын

I-

@turtlegettingby4433

4 жыл бұрын

I like yeast in my bagel, but not my muffin

I did not think the end was sad at all. I think it is one of the only satisfying conclusions to a story about high school kids discovering sex and sexuality and love. To grossly speed up the process of Astor discovering who she is by somehow getting her together with the lead in the end would be so much less realistic. Also, Ellie's goal in this story is to stick to the status quo, so the whole movie is her discovering she is capable of loving and capable of leaving her comfortability. It was the best thing that her big revelation would lead to her leaving the town in favor of carving out a new path with her newfound knowledge on friendships and love. The movie definitely had flaws but the ending scenes were definitely not part of them. Sorry rant not anticipated

I liked where the story went, but I went into it with the understanding that it would develop the friendship between Ellie and Paul rather than be a love story and I think that made a big difference! I also appreciated the ending more after reading an interview with Alice Wu: Wu talks about how people expected there to be a couple at the end, and that a lot of viewers were disappointed with where the story went instead, but she talked about how you want the ending to be what's best for the character because you care about them. So for Ellie or Paul or Aster to end up together in this conservative town; is that really their happy ending? Maybe the happier thing is that Ellie goes somewhere to pursue an education that she wants to do, when she's always been too afraid to leave her Dad. Maybe for Paul, it's that his family is listening to his ideas for sausages now. Maybe for Aster it's going to art school and making that decision for herself when she's always tried to be a preacher's daughter that stayed in the town and was religious and married young, etc. We don't know what would happen if Ellie and Aster or Aster and Paul or Ellie and Paul got together, maybe they'd break up, etc. After reading that interview I appreciated the ending a lot more :)

@maddiesayshello15

4 жыл бұрын

collider.com/the-half-of-it-ending-explained-netflix/ the article in question if anyone would care to read! It's pretty short but I really liked it!

@shadypalmtree2989

4 жыл бұрын

This is so true. I loved how realistic the ending was. In real life, it would never work out. Especially since I don't think Aster is gay/bi/lesbian/pan in how they represented her. The kiss at the end is realistic, just cause that's something that would happen. But getting together, nope.

“this movies a little bit artsy fartsy for my taste” and that’s how sue..... sees it.

@trees.leaves.andfrogs

4 жыл бұрын

Erik Lerström it’s a glee reference

@Jack-gp3xm

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström lol you should watch it though, it's great :))

@flrxkilos5778

4 жыл бұрын

Erik Lerström its not a bad show :(

@iLoveMeBrownies

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström I feel like most of Trish's fans are too kind to tell you, but you're being a dick by being unnecessarily rude and putting ellipses everywhere doesn't make you sound smart or pensive.

@iLoveMeBrownies

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström At no point did I mention _this_ . Ellipses are "..." these little buggers that you use every sentence. You don't see how it's rude? It's like the difference between saying "I'm not a fan of religion myself, but I don't mind people being religious" and saying "It's fucking stupid, I'd rather do anything else than pay any sort of attention to it". It's being rudely dismissive. 'Hey you know this thing you like? Yea I'd rather do the most boring thing in the world than watch it. Nah that's not rude, that's something a kind grandma says.' How do you not see that as rude? You could've just said you don't like it, you went out of your way to make it clear that it's not worth any of your time.

“When u finally include the Chinese girl cause ur not being racist anymore” *hereditary music**

@Softapplecore

4 жыл бұрын

Hail Paimon!

@bryonyayaka

3 жыл бұрын

PLEASEE that broke me 😭😭

@KaiKailuv

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it

@KaiKailuv

3 жыл бұрын

I guess what I really mean is what is hereditary music?

@giuliasguzzo

3 жыл бұрын

@@KaiKailuv Hereditary is a horror movie by Ari Aster from 2017 if im not wrong, and the sound effect that plays right after trin comments on the girl's racism is a song from its soundtrack. It's a really great movie (if you're a fan of horror Ari Aster is widely considered one of the best modern masters of horror!) Depending on what country you're in, its available on amazon prime :)

the scene where Paul says “you’re going to hell” felt the most realistic and close to home in the movie for me. I know how nowadays movies are trying to be like “yea be gay no one cares!” but that’s really not the truth, and it hurts because i dont think he’s homophobic, i see it as he was simply taught to believe that it’s wrong his entire life, like Many people still believe to this day. Paul reacts to her being gay as if she has cancer, he’s saddened by it as if Ellie was sentenced to death and it breaks my heart, it’s the way that it feels like Ellie has hurt Him by existing and that’s just painful, like coming out to your homophobic family or friends, the way you’re not seen as family or friend anymore, but a nuisance. It’s too real.

i think that Aster was comparing him and her when she asked if he believed in God, thats also why she looked so disappointed when he didnt say anything special about her flower painting edit:spelling 👁️👄👁️

@ladiwaddell989

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely lol

@anushka1520

4 жыл бұрын

i also think she kissed him then bc she knew he was the “safe” option

@breanna4255

4 жыл бұрын

@@anushka1520 glad we have that covered

@jiuada

4 жыл бұрын

@@anushka1520 i interpreted it as aster trying to see if she would feel anything for paul in that kiss as she did when she was in the hot spring just talking to ellie.

@isabellagonzalez5695

4 жыл бұрын

Anushka Gupta Yes! I think she feels like she can share passionate emotional intimacy with Ellie but she’s scared to consider physical intimacy with Ellie. And she really can’t have emotional intimacy with Paul, so she goes for the physical intimacy with him instead to compensate.

the only f/m friendship that matters is between a shy sapphic and a straight himbo dont @ me

@dvdcbb

4 жыл бұрын

What about a useless lesbian and a shy boy

@BlaiseRashelHarman10

4 жыл бұрын

Dani and Kirsch from Carmilla

@pandamonium7977

4 жыл бұрын

Blake and Sun from RWBY

Paul’s Christian upbringing making him scared that ellie was going to go to hell for liking a girl was so tragic and made me cry

I love Alice Wu's explanation of how everyone goes their own separate ways with a sense of content. That in itself is a happy ending. The time that they'll spend apart will allow them to grow as individuals and figure things out more and if/when life brings them together again, they can see what is to happen (especially ellie and aster with their past growing connection if they actually get together or not) which is what I really like

*I just realized Aster cheated on her boyfriend with both Paul and Ellie lmao*

@Susanstyles99

4 жыл бұрын

YES THATS WHAT I THOUGHT. She had no right to be mad at ellie when SHE has a boyfriend AND was talking to paul

@emscnpck

4 жыл бұрын

and we’re supposed to feel bad for her yikes

@vampiregirl917

4 жыл бұрын

I was watching this with my friend and that's all we kept saying haha, that it was emotional cheating at first but yeah def cheating. I didn't want Ellie to end up with her because of that.

@renzbar150

4 жыл бұрын

Alice Wu address this in an interview, that most people makes mistakes (especially in hs = young and curious) and that its crucial to self development.

@Aster_Risk

4 жыл бұрын

They're teenagers and it's much more complicated than that.

ellie: *doesnt believe in god* everyone: k ellie: girl pretty hehe paul: you’re going to hell 😡

@planetofi5hii

4 жыл бұрын

yo give Paul a chance he redeemed himself 😔

@InvisibleLovatic

4 жыл бұрын

kinda realistic tbh

@felonyharlem2219

4 жыл бұрын

That was how Paul was educated. He legit went against that in the end and supported Ellie.

@rainbowmanatee2683

4 жыл бұрын

"pretty girl hehe" is me 25/7

@sagejennings4342

4 жыл бұрын

I was okay with that because the way he said it sounded like he was sad for her rather than trying to change her or being homophobic.

God is ur permanent BFF sounds like something our youth pastor would say

Trin: insults white boy in British accent Me: I love this song

“Is there a perfect movie? Probably not” EXCUSE ME? This is blatant Shrek erasure 😤😤

@mollywhiteman8956

4 жыл бұрын

Valeria Rossini shrek erasure is the worst kind of erasure

The Hayley Kiyoko Cinematic Universe™ is why we have so many bikes in our gay movies

My mom said "Paul is a golden retriever," and I think that is the perfect analogy. He's totally a dumbass but in the sweetest, most innocent and loyal way.

@user-wp2iu5ef3o

3 жыл бұрын

Love ur name so much

@sagejennings4342

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-wp2iu5ef3o aww, thank you!

@jabathepegasus

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not trying to be insulting at all and I mean this in a genuine way, but throughout the movie I genuinely thought Paul was supposed to not be a neurotypical person. He was a little slow and I didn’t see him as dumb because it felt like he had some sort of mental disability. I don’t know if that’s what the writers were going for but that’s how I saw him in the movie

i think the point of the movie and the whole intro-story thing is to show that sometimes your soulmate or your other half isn't a love interest but instead just a friend you love :) im guessing that's why they didn't end up together

@loveitsonlybabyscars6778

4 жыл бұрын

It's also based on something that happened to writer of the movie

Ellie says at the beginning that it's not a love story. The main relationship in the film was Ellie and Paul's friendship and I really loved that. The only character I didn't like was Aster's boyfriend. His douchiness just felt so over the top. Like, "I get it, Ellie, you're in love with me." What??

@chanicewhealy8256

4 жыл бұрын

but it also made it really funny

@summer_the_rae

4 жыл бұрын

@@chanicewhealy8256 eh I didn't find him really funny. Everything else was grounded in realism, so in comparison he felt way too cartoonish. But to each their own 👍

@idunno3370

4 жыл бұрын

it is a bit cartoony haha, but when i was in high school, i legit had some classmates exactly like him, thinking every girl was in love with them and telling them it's not gonna happen. The way the movie handled it was definetly not the most realistic way, but it does happen

@chanicewhealy8256

4 жыл бұрын

@@idunno3370 i think he wasnt needed, but some of his lines were funny

@idunno3370

4 жыл бұрын

@@chanicewhealy8256 yeah that's true, that time could've been spent developping Aster or having Ellie talk with her dad haha, but he wasn't really too bad

No one: Trin: remember that scene in Glee....

me: :( Trin: "Sapphic Woman" me: :)

the scene of him running alongside the train makes me tear up bc he looks like a dog running after it's owner.... it's so sweet

Paul: *be homophobic* Trin: *full-on mental breakdown questioning her whole existence for 2 mins straight*

i really liked this movie but i totally get your critiques of it. I agree that aster should have been developed more and that there was some filler but i think overall it was really well done and clearly like...showed a lot of care towards the story it was depicting.

Lmao when Paul tries to kiss Ellie and she's just like woah is the most awkward scene ever in existence

re: ellie and her dad, i think the nonverbal communication between them spoke louder than words and is very true to asian households in real life. this is my new favorite movie, personally-- there's something so special about a young adult movie that treats it audience with the respect they deserve, and is not afraid to subvert common tropes. i liked that you were so open-minded and appreciative of it even though you don't necessarily love it.

@sarahispettey

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! There's something so meaningful and loving about quietly sharing food with someone that goes back to early humanity and expresses so much emotion and trust and love, especially for many Asian families where "I love you" is said through a bowl of cut up fruit or silently making your favorite dish. It's showing your love for someone through your actions and sharing that moment together. I think in this case it's more powerful than words just like you said, and it was represented beautifully in the film. Of course, verbal affirmations are important in their own right, and have their own power, but many Asian families tend to choose nonverbal actions that show love rather than tell, so the moment between Ellie and her dad hits home for many.

“You’re going to hell” really broke my heart. Oh man, I went from zero to full on ugly crying in 0.01sec

@faith7012

4 жыл бұрын

It’s just like ahhh cause it’s what he was brought up to believe and I feel like he’s sad that everything anyone’s ever taught him is that his best friend will be going to hell. And ahhhh

@oabileletlotlokekana3759

4 жыл бұрын

it really broke me dude

@reginaphalange7413

4 жыл бұрын

Yossarian is more sane than me. It’s what he was raised to think tho and he ended up learning that wasn’t most likely the case.

@dagbebo1299

4 жыл бұрын

Yossarian is more sane than me. i don’t think he meant it in a mean way, he just said it because he was heartbroken that according to the beliefs that had been hammered into him his entire his best friend was going to hell. like he was truly concerned for her and just said it before he could stop himself

@jagerbaby8628

3 жыл бұрын

I know I loved him and thought he was such a nice little person and then it really hurt when he said that

The dense jock with a heart of gold trope is the best trope ever change my mind

@idunno3370

4 жыл бұрын

a himbo

@avocadovigilantes6195

4 жыл бұрын

Babies 🥺

@ey8566

4 жыл бұрын

frr this movie made me realise my bias for himbos 🥺🥺

@Lynn-mm5fd

4 жыл бұрын

He’s like a happy-go-lucky golden retriever

@Aster_Risk

4 жыл бұрын

As long as they're like Paul, then definitely.

You should totally watch Saving Face. It's a gay romance with a main Asian cast also created by Alice Wu!

If you want more lesbian films, Portrait of a Lady on Fire is so so great

@n_mp88

4 жыл бұрын

i didn't really like that one, ''But i'm a cheerleader'' is fun to watch tho

Did it bother anyone else that Ellie’s glasses didn’t fog up during that hot spring scene?

@YasmineSDJ

4 жыл бұрын

it didnt bother me per say but it was definitely NOTED. i was waiting for it to fog lol

@renzbar150

4 жыл бұрын

The director, Alice Wu, said in an interview that there are glasses that do not fog (fogless glasses).

@Rhaphidophile

4 жыл бұрын

There actually are glasses that don't fog up

@maymaecat5149

4 жыл бұрын

@@renzbar150 those exist where have I been and why haven't they entered my life

@renzbar150

4 жыл бұрын

@@maymaecat5149 me too! I just knew it from Alice. Man, I've been drinking my coffee with fogged up glasses my entire life.

“god is like. a permanent best friend.” - trin lovell, 2020

@jessicastrike838

4 жыл бұрын

@@julieh4352 That's a tautology, god is usually just a projection of oneself. I forgot what study it was but when people were recorded thinking about god, the part of the brain that governed "self" lit up.

@manifestingfuturedoggo783

4 жыл бұрын

@emma c. It's true tho 😂

@saitamatrash2527

4 жыл бұрын

Jessica Strike that’s actually a beautiful way of looking at it

Trin: “They should have added in Ellie talking with her mom” …her mom is dead fam. Although her coming out to her dad would have been nice, I felt like Paul was a bit vague about everything when he sort of told him.

@DonnaBrooks

4 жыл бұрын

And rightfully so! He had no business outing someone to their father! No one does unless it's a matter of life & death.

@crystalwang1532

3 жыл бұрын

No cap, he dad prob would have been like “make sure you find a wife that can make dumplings”

I am dying at the "just beating the meat with my dad" Omg I AM IN HYSTRICS

paul was the himbo i fell in love with during the movie and the paul being homophobic reveal was so impactful (and hurtful even) and i think alice wu says it perfectly: "This scene always breaks my heart. But it's also a major reason I made this movie. We spend the whole film falling in love with Paul, and then he breaks our heart. But I think that's life. Good people can still have attitudes that hurt us."

@IcyAquaMarine

4 жыл бұрын

That is so true!

@cidevant002

4 жыл бұрын

This is a painfully real experience for LGBT+ people too. We meet people who we think are the nicest most generous folks ever, who we love and they love us too, but suddenly we come out of the closet and don't see any of that generousity directed at us anymore. It's like they are suddenly someone else we never met before, simply because they didn't knew who we were before. It happened to me with a friend when I was a teen. It's painful, but it's real and I have so much respect for this movie to represent this so accurately instead of going a obvious evil bad character being homophobic from the start.

@aag4021

4 жыл бұрын

Avi but then he comes to terms with it and accepts ellie for who she is

trin literally cannot look bad. sis serves looks non stop twenty four seven

4:55 the writer/director of this movie, Alice Wu, said that the nickname was the same one people bullied her with :(

Trin's eyeliner was distracting me. It's so bomb.

When she said “ I don’t believe in God” and got a reply of “ must be so nice “ I felt that to my core

@alzu582

4 жыл бұрын

Why?

@araaraurydice

4 жыл бұрын

@@alzu582 I can't say it's the same for Samyah, but here's my experience. I have a friend who's in love with a girl, while also being a girl herself, they love eachother mutually but she chooses to hold back because she's extremly religious.

@valerieee9940

4 жыл бұрын

@@araaraurydice it may be hard to watch for her but u could recommend her Disobedience, its about a orthodox girl struggling with her faith and what she feels for her lifetime "friend" (they already did evrything possible xd) still its her love, faith and beliefs on the line. i dont think a movie can change your friends life but she could really use seeing herself in the film and all in all its a really raw and complex movie

@eunbimilf4929

4 жыл бұрын

@@valerieee9940 trueee

@alzu582

4 жыл бұрын

diyoni harisinghe Ohh, I understand 😯😄 I’m not fully christian or religious in general, but I wanted to know why the “must be so nice” when supposedly having faith and believing in God is reliable, good, comforting. But I understand your points.

In an interview the girl who plays Aster actually explained that the reason why they had Aster kiss Paul like that was because she was conflicted and confused about her feelings, (after that talk with Ellie) so she wanted to kiss him to feel something, because he is the one that’s supposed to be sending the letters/texts. Great reaction by the way!

@YasmineSDJ

4 жыл бұрын

that scene did not read like that at all. Reading this makes me think that the director/writer didn't manage to convey what they actually wanted to convey to the audience. A shame.

@ltb5582

4 жыл бұрын

Mine S. Oh I actually did read it like that, I thought it was quite clear.. But I get why people would think that lol

@Monichanz

4 жыл бұрын

I understood that too bc the way Aster face look after asking the same question she asked to ellie

@mayab2099

4 жыл бұрын

That’s pretty much how I interpreted it as well. I almost read it as Aster trying to compare them. Aster had just had this amazing conversation with a girl, she ended up a bit confused about her feelings, so she tried to start a similar conversation with Paul to also feel that emotional connection that she just had with Ellie. But instead she just got disappointed by his answer as there was nothing special about it. Nor was it like the conversations she thought she had had with him over text or like the one she just had with Ellie, so, as previously mentioned, she kissed him to feel the feelings that she was “supposed to” feel for him and/or tried to make up for the emotional connection she wasn’t feeling.

@Aster_Risk

4 жыл бұрын

@@YasmineSDJ It came across that way to me, and clearly other people as well. You can't reach everyone, I guess.

In response to your response about the ending: I don’t necessarily think it’s a sad ending. It’s just realistic. I agree with that point. It would be way too unrealistic to have Aster completely be out, open and in a relationship with Ellie, When the entire movie she struggled with going against the status quo. She struggled with not doing the things people expected of her. She had her progress by going away to Art School, turning down the proposal, and being open to exploring her sexuality in the future. These are huge things for her. Also, Ellie! She was able to progress by going away to a school she never, ever considered. It so fucking hard to leave home and go away to school especially when her father appears to suffer with mental health issues. She also exposed herself and grew by singing onstage and kissing Aster at the end! I read an interview with the author before watching it. She mentioned that it was a story about her first heartbreak, which was a friendship. They told us from the beginning: this was not a love story and no one got what they wanted. So, I knew that going into it. I think it’s important to keep that in mind. This is too long lmao but I had ThoughtsTM.

ok but i would like to take a moment to appreciate trin’s background like girl quarantine rlly did this to you and you gotta get more love for that

@purpleartist195

4 жыл бұрын

She actually inspired me to do my own picture wall haha

They said when Aster slapped Paul, it was meant for Ellie, which is why she was looking at Ellie the whole time while she slapped Paul...Aster wanted to hurt Ellie by hurting Paul (with the slap), because Ellie hurt Aster through Paul when they were kinda faking the whole thing...

@antonizajkowski9698

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT

@idunno3370

4 жыл бұрын

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE OMG

@mirandawatson99

4 жыл бұрын

She could've, you know, slapped Ellie.

@squeezie_b8895

4 жыл бұрын

Miranda Watson would have let the cat out the bag tho

@Hailey-xu1vc

4 жыл бұрын

Miranda Watson true true 😂

honestly, i felt like the ending made more sense given where the film was set. a traditional happy ending where the girls end up together wouldn't have made sense bc of their religious small town. i think if they had the traditional happy ending, they would have rushed it and wouldn't have developed enough into the dynamics between the people in their small town and the girls' relationship. i would've liked to have a scene between ellie and her dad about her sexuality though. thoi made it in my fav movies list because i relate to so many aspects of the film, it evoked various emotions, and it made me reflect on certain scenes, which i don't often do. but i can definitely see why someone wouldn't like it either.

@elha1562

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I relate a lot to Ellie, so this film touches my heart in a way no other film has. But I understand why some people aren't a fan.

@SeeletutorialLove

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, she said in the beginning this wasn't a love story

@haughtdamnvers

4 жыл бұрын

@@SeeletutorialLove true and it's not what most would call a love story. i do kinda see it as a sort of love story lol. it's cheesy, but imo ellie learned to love herself. in the video from netflix on youtube where alice wu breaks down the first scene (i think), she develops on how ellie has always put others before herself (her father) and she doesn't even see herself as the main character of her story. by the end, i think she has grown to value herself more and therefore love herself. i would even say that she found love through friendships with paul and aster. and i'm glad that they highlighted the importance of friendship in ellie's life because friends can play a pivotal role in someone's life just as much as family or a romantic partner.

@VicenteTorresAliasVits

4 жыл бұрын

That's a good point. Also, both Aster and Paul needed more time to themselves (they were always acting like everyone else wanted them to act) before starting a new relationship with anybody, while Ellie needed the opposite (hence why she was pushed to go to college and make new friends). Also-also, Aster probably had never even considered the possibility of being gay or bi. She needed to explore it. She couldn't do it with Ellie because Ellie already had strong feelings. If Aster had experimented and confirmed that she was straight, Ellie would've suffered even more.

as a lesbian this movie made me so happy and i think it’s so so important that we’re getting representation 🥺

I agree with a lot of the points at the end, and I definitely feel the same way about asters development in the movie but while it does feel kind of dissatisfying cuz she’s a big part of the movie but feels like she’s gotten little development I feel like it also makes a lot of sense. I think a big thing about aster throughout the movie is that SHE didn’t even know who she was or what she wanted. Most of her life was just playing a part, a role and she never really felt like she was being herself, just what people wanted her to be. She doesn’t really break from that until the very end of the movie. So while I wish she had gotten more development, I think the fact that they didn’t give her more was very fitting for her character, and, while I agree that it doesn’t seem like the type of movie to get a sequel unfortunately, if it does ever get a sequel I hope they show a lot more of her developing and finding herself after the fact.

I really like that after Paul freaked out about her being gay he still valued her enough to go off and find out more to accept it.... idk I just really like platonic love

@yb7689

3 жыл бұрын

Them forming that sort of relationship was my favourite part of the movie. I think it’s so important that Paul realized that you don’t have to be involved romantically to love somebody, and that misunderstanding showed when he tried to kiss Ellie and her rejecting him + realizing she wasn’t straight and him saying she’d go to hell, but then also valuing their relationship enough to do research and understand PLUS OMG THE FACT THAT ELLIE’S DAD AND PAUL JUST HANG OUT WITHOUT HER BEING THERE JUST WARMED MY HEART, and that their relationship transcended language barriers. Sorry for ranting but

@angela-ul2dk

3 жыл бұрын

it didn't seem to me like he hated her for her feelings like some people are. he just seemed like a friend that just realised that a person he cared about deeply was going to be tortured for eternity. he seemed genuinely torn and distraught.

@introvert_who1641

3 жыл бұрын

@@angela-ul2dk I don’t like how he said “it was a sin YOUR GOING TO HELL” like... just because you mad doesn’t mean you have to say that. A little homophobic if you ask me.

@angela-ul2dk

3 жыл бұрын

@@introvert_who1641 i would think him telling Ellie that she's gonna burn in an eternal fire forever would be a bigger sin then her having a crush on Aster but idk, that's just me

@debasnata

2 жыл бұрын

to me it seemed like, the way he said that she's going to hell he wasn't directing it at her. he realised that this person he likes might go to hell and he is afraid of that

If you want to watch more wlw movies, if you haven’t seen it: Jennifer’s Body! It has Megan Fox and Amanda Seyfried and Megan kinda turns into a demon and is sapphic, it was my lesbian awakening lmao

this was the best movie i have seen in a LONG time. it was so poetic and beautiful, and the reality of it really hit hard. my friend and i SOBBED throughout the end. it’s an incredible coming of age story. there was no extremes or over the top-ness. i get what you’re saying, but in the end, it wasn’t about aster, it was about ellie and paul. and it’s absolutely incredible.

Seeing Trin going through all those emotions when she found out Paul was homophobic was poetic. I don’t know what was more emotional the ending scene of CMBYN or that.

@lightofthelives

4 жыл бұрын

Bro. Idk how you dont get it but saying "but thats a sin" and "youre going to help" to an lgbt+ person is definitely serious in every way possible.

@lightofthelives

4 жыл бұрын

*"going to hell" not help.

@lightofthelives

4 жыл бұрын

And are u in the movie all the sudden? This is abt the guy in the movies reaction, not yours -_-

@lightofthelives

4 жыл бұрын

@Black Ninja news flash people do say that to lgbt people on a daily basis. Just because it isn't happening where you can hear or see it, doesnt mean its not happening. And i dont need to calm down

I actually have so many thoughts about this movie, like there were like a lot of flaws with the movie and stuff I didn’t like about it, but I have to give major props to Netflix for giving the go-ahead for this movie, like Disney could never👁👄👁

@Gabriel-de4gp

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström they could make a movie for Disney+, idk if they will, but now they have a lot of gay characters in their new shows like Diary of a future president and HSMTMTS

@Gabriel-de4gp

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström well at least they started somewhere

@DonnaBrooks

4 жыл бұрын

Netflix is a streaming service. It makes its money from providing you the service. Disney releases their movies in theatres, then later in other formats. Disney & other film studios want the Chinese market b/c it's huge & money is the bottom line, so they are not going to jeopardize their distribution options b/c they have content the Chinese government won't allow in their movies.

@Gabriel-de4gp

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Lerström well after years of them making the villans stereotypes of gay people, them mostly putting LGBT characters in shows is still good

also a fun easter egg about the movie alice wu said that the art at the beginning of the movie during the interlude is the art that aster submits for her portfolio for art school

I cried during the whole thing. Deadass one of my fav movies. It represented young, confusing sapphic feelings SO perfectly. The bathroom mirror scene sticks with me a lot fsr. AND WHEN ASTER WEARS ONE OF ELLIE'S SHIRTS??

@valerieee9940

4 жыл бұрын

SAMEEE and ive heard a lot of ppl saying that they didnt liked it or that it was ok, when it was so on point and so emotional for me, being a young and very confused wlw. I just think i love this movie to the next level bc i can relate to it so much

10:57 that girl was telling her she was gay and wanted to be friends

@antoporoto

4 жыл бұрын

this is exACTLY what i thought

@lordfarquaad380

4 жыл бұрын

“I like your nails.”

@mariannaferry6089

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordfarquaad380 aka "are u? Cus i'm too, lesbe friends"

alice wu (director/writer of the film) actually said during her film commentary that she wrote paul's line "you're going to hell" not from a place of blatant homophobia but just as an outgrowth of his religious beliefs. he was definitely ignorant and completely taken aback by ellie being gay as he was afraid that his closest friend would go to hell, as dictated by the beliefs he and most characters in the film grew up around. i think the fact that aster's character was not fully fleshed out attested to the fact that she has yet to solidify her own perception of herself. she is still unsure about her spiritual beliefs, her sexual orientation and what she wants for her future. both paul and ellie see and appreciate aster from different perspectives, but ultimately ellie seems to know aster more than she knows herself and i think thats the message underpinning the movie; loving a person is discovering things about them not even they know about themselves and encouraging each other in the right direction.

@DonnaBrooks

4 жыл бұрын

Those are some profound insights about Aster.

Girl: *Flannel, beanie and complimenting short nails* Me: "I SHMELL A LESBIOON!!"

Honestly, I really enjoyed this movie. One thing I didn’t love was the whole church scene. I liked the basics of what happened there, but the whole thing happening in a church in front of so many random people felt so weird and awkward. I also have to say I really loved the “you’re going to hell” thing. As someone who comes from a religious background and has had a friend come out to me before I was really opened up to the hypocrisy of gay being bad (religiously) or whatever. I really liked the reality of this guy who has always believed one thing learning how wrong he was because of seeing this person he loved in a new light and realized that it’s not black and white and that because he loves her and wants her to be happy he’s going to have to change his whole mind frame. It’s just a very similar journey to what I experienced and I’m not sure I’ve seen it portrayed before. Usually it’s either someone being fully homophobic and staying that way for the whole time you see them or just being immediately accepting. It’s super painful to watch him say that to her, but I also think the whole journey there is super important.

I feel like he wasn’t homophobic but because of the church and what it says he was just confused and sad because his best friend/crush “will end up in hell”

@justfood48

4 жыл бұрын

But then he literally DID HIS RESEARCH and learned to ACCEPT AND LOVE HIS BEST FRIEND FOR WHO SHE IS and I’m sorry about the all caps but honestly when he stood up in the church I started bawling my eyes out, not everyone is gonna educate themselves for you

@angelfall3813

4 жыл бұрын

@@justfood48 for real! literally LOVE LOVE LOVE this movie, they portrayed the church realistically rather than other movies where it shows crazy christians that spit out bible verses

@samthomassen9021

4 жыл бұрын

yeah that's why that scene made me so sad... Paul didn't seem like a Raging Homophobe, he seemed really sad about how, according to what he's been taught, his friend is going to hell. He seemed more upset /for/ her than /at/ her if that makes sense

i was honestly am confused about the scene where paul finds out ellie is a lesbian because i thought he knew in the scene where ellie asks paul why he likes aster & ellie just goes off about how she feels about aster & she goes “i was just talking” & paul was like “that’s what you say when you love someone” like-

@ZaDe2002

4 жыл бұрын

I also thought that!! 👀 Like I was hella confused at the end

@jhsc128

4 жыл бұрын

so was i! but paul also said something about how ellie was able to put together the words to describe feelings, so i think he was feeling frustrated about how he isn't as good with words

@stellap.9534

4 жыл бұрын

And he kisses her too ,like 🤨

@intxrsected1493

4 жыл бұрын

@@jhsc128 this!

@miurtouissi1093

4 жыл бұрын

In the official Netflix trailer he sqys ‘you like aster ‘ during that scene so it was obviously made for us to understand it that way. I think they changed it as they filmed but it just doesn’t make sense anymore. It is clear that it was written for us to understand that he realized she was a lesbian lol

so I just got to this conclusion on why they didn't give Aster more depth: there's no reason to. Even if the movie changes focus to her and her point of view sometimes, the real movie is about Ellie and Paul and their friendship and at the end of the day, they didn't really know Aster. They fell in love with her because of the outside, none of them actually knew her from before and even if we spend the entire movie loving her and talking to her, it's mostly through Ellie and Paul's eyes. I had this conclusion while reading the comments, I may be saying gibberish, don't mind me lmao Also, there's this one delated scene where Aster is confessing (literally, at church) some real lovely things and some of the things imply some *[limp wrist]* and depending on where the scene was supposed to be placed... *[limp wrist] inch resting*

I'm half way through & this is my new favorite vid of urs. The gag at the homophobia is EVERYTHING! The closer they got he started to like her & confuse her friendship for feelings. Its repeatedly explained that its a small town, almost every1 goes to church, so the homophobia thing shouldn't catch u off guard but I can see how it does. Good movie, better reactions. So glad u posted this.

trin: that's her brother also trin: no it's not 😂😂😂

The scene where Paul says that she's going to hell was like my least favorite scene but also was a super powerful scene Because from what I've seen of similar lines like that, usually the sentence is used as a threat of like oh your going to hell you should feel ashamed and blah blah blah But the way he says it in the scene (and the fact that he doesn't even look at her when he says it, he just stares at the ground looking so visibly upset) sounds more like a realization of something terrible that he doesn't want to happen because he loves her and she's his best friend Like that scene had me sobbing because ew gross no Paul that's disgusting don't say that but also theres this realization of something terrible that he doesn't want to happen to his best friend and just ughhh this movie is so amazing Oof sorry that was quite the rant

@astoldbynickgerr

4 жыл бұрын

Sophia Beckman I had the same interpretation.

@soph05

4 жыл бұрын

@@astoldbynickgerr ah I'm glad, I didn't know if I was insane or not for interpreting it this way and was just like may as well comment to see if anyone else agrees

@moonshade_xr8349

Жыл бұрын

@@soph05 I'm so late but you're so right!! You can tell he was shocked and he was just coming to terms with what he's known all his life and hes sad/worried because what does this mean for his best friend?

I actually cried when Paul runs behind the trainman, it made me so emotional. I love Ellie's and Paul's friendship so much.

i really love this movie, especially the end, like...... Ellie just said to Aster "see you on a couple of years", like, it's an open end, u can interpret the end whatever u think it ends. the good thing is that Paul and Ellie ended up being best friends 💗 even though Ali (from the show Euphoria) said that "nothing in high school lasts forever", I think that they did, they ended up being bffs forever✨ (idk if it makes sense, I just really love the movie😂)

“she’s literally k k slider from new horizons” wait a minute you might be onto something lmao

I feel like a story like this should've been portrayed in a book, or at least a miniseries. Whatever they were trying to convey, to me, fell short. I don't understand anything about Aster's life: why is she being pressured into marriage with her bf at such a young age? Why is it encouraged by her parents? Why does she feel like she had to say yes at the end? I wish we could've seen more of Peter's homophobic side. You can't just blurt out "you're going to hell" after being a complete cinnamon roll the entire movie and then immediately go back to being a cinnamon roll and The End. Why did he even try to kiss Ellie? Why the hell did Aster slap Peter and NOT Ellie? Where is Peter and Aster's plot closure? It literally does not exist. Aster slaps him and that's it. The whole climax felt rushed and wrong. This could've been a great story. The characters are super cool, the actors are amazing, the cinematography is A+. I just needed it to be developed properly.

@ninatanlaven7154

4 жыл бұрын

Agree but his name is Paul lmao

@mirandawatson99

4 жыл бұрын

@@ninatanlaven7154 lmao see, if they had taken more time with this story I WOULD'VE REMEMBERED lol

@arianaaguirre1860

4 жыл бұрын

In the interview Alice said that Aster slapping Paul was meant to show her slapping Ellie because as Aster slapped Paul she kept her eyes on Ellie.

@mirandawatson99

4 жыл бұрын

@@arianaaguirre1860 yeah, I've seen that comment going around, I just think it's a bad choice, at least for my taste. Why have Aster take it out on Paul if they're not going to let them both resolve it? If you know you don't have the time in the movie to have them resolve their problems, why make it worse with a slap? Also just the slap in general makes me uneasy, especially when they're just using Paul as a prop for the whole climax, it feels like they just threw his character away after the 'you're going to hell' fiasco.

@myverity6858

4 жыл бұрын

Miranda Watson the slap, from how I viewed it, was justifiable from Aster’s perspective. PAUL was at the forefront of the whole fiasco, not Ellie. His name was on the letters, he went on the dates. It doesn’t help that he never admitting to lying. Ellie was the one to admit that she was writing the letters, but Paul didn’t say a word even though he helped orchestrate the whole thing. The church scene was his way of apologizing to Ellie, not Aster. Plus, he also tried to kiss Ellie while he was in “love” with Aster. So that didn’t help his case much either.

The creator said in an interview that when she was writing it started off as being based on a platonic friendship that fell apart partly due to her sexuality, knowing that I appreciate the ending and seeing Paul educate himself past what he has been raised on to realise he loved Ellie but as a friend

Paul was apart of my baby boy club until he said “you’re going to hell.” I was so shocked 😳 but then he redeem himself

i literally screamed when paul said “you’re going to hell” like WHAT?? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM???

@justfood48

4 жыл бұрын

They’re all religious and go to the same church. But my man did his mf research and learned to accept his best friend for who she is, which, personally, is all I can ask for when I ever came out to a person who was homophobic beliefs.

@kaepiper

4 жыл бұрын

Just Food, i was so glad he had a change of heart bc i remember being so shocked when he said that, like he rly threw that whole friendship out the window in a split second but i’m happy he learned

@theecupcakegirl

4 жыл бұрын

ana k/ RIGHT omg my mouth literally had dropped

The same woman that directed this film, also directed a lesbian film with all asian leads called Saving Face, it’s amazing. Park Chan-wook directed my favorite film of all time, The Handmaiden, it’s Korean and sapphic. I mean, if you wanted some recommendations

@louisabecker3121

4 жыл бұрын

The Handmaiden is literally GOLD !! It’s one of the best movies I have ever watched

@CrowHousePress

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't watched the Handmaiden but if it's anything like the book it's based off of I'm guessing they dont get together in the end?

@umbrellacorporation4435

4 жыл бұрын

Minnesota Nice it’s loosely based. I don’t want to spoil anything because i feel like watching it not knowing anything is an experience on its own, but it has a happy ending. It’s one of the things they changed from the book, since it was based in England whereas the movie is in Japan’s occupation of Korea. Watch it, you won’t be disappointed :)

@squeezie_b8895

4 жыл бұрын

Minnesota Nice they get together

@who1285

4 жыл бұрын

The Handmaiden takes you for a RIDE, its beautiful, funny, scary, sexy, real... And all three main characters are well developted and have flaws and are human beings. LOVED IT

when she sat with Rosie... when I say I SCREAMED omg

Just realized her name is “SmithCorona” on the chat platform

@jvgreendarmok

3 жыл бұрын

It's a kind of typewriter but it aged really badly really quickly...