Loki Hype The second Time Spy score is 25W, not 15W.

@YourWishes

Жыл бұрын

Hyyyyype

@overoula

Жыл бұрын

meh too late...even if i already reserved a spot i may cancel when the time comes... rog ally hype for me now and diablo IV ofc

@Boogie_the_cat

Жыл бұрын

Like Loki is low key a good handheld? Haw haw. Words are fun.

@Ruslan.88266

Жыл бұрын

Ayn definitely missed the bus!

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

They have cheaper versions of this for around $250-$300 that should dominate the low-end.

The thing actually looks astetically pleasing, too bad they fumbled with delays

@mastermind5421

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverReviews no because people would have bought something else already

@r4yker442

6 ай бұрын

It's not a delay, but deadzones baked into a game. AC6 especially suffers from it - if the game is on Steam, turn on "Anti-Deadzone" in steampad overlay (or whatever it's called), it helps dramatically

@oo--7714

6 ай бұрын

@@r4yker442 I’m talking about the shipping delays

@ChaoticMuchX

6 ай бұрын

​@@oo--7714😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 kid thought you were talking about deadzones 😂😂😅😅😅

This device fits my needs perfectly, basically for the ergonomics and the full sized joysticks since I mainly play racing games and shooters, plus the 6 inch screen The thing that holds me back is the power/battery ratio, I hope they maintain this shell for future releases with better CPUs and pull the trigger on them

@lukaskidd4621

Жыл бұрын

Yeah plus the Ally has countless issues tbh. Not worth the inconvenience.

@oliese

Жыл бұрын

@@lukaskidd4621 When variable refresh rate screens come to these brands it will be amazing, thats the main selling point of the Ally, that and customer support

@ihmpall

Жыл бұрын

Goes perfectly with your small pnis

@cryengine_x

Жыл бұрын

@@lukaskidd4621 nonsense, ally kills steam deck in every way.

@maxd8952

Жыл бұрын

​@cryengine_x watch some comparisons lol. It really doesn't, better screens the most objective improvement but with the screen mod coming for the deck it's irrelevant

Thanks so much for this preview. I finally feel a little more comfortable with my choice to preorder the Max. Once I compare it to the gpd win 4, I'll decide whether or not I'll keep it.

I would like to see a proper 6800U vs 7849U head to head in battery at the optimum TDP. i think for most, the sweetspot will be the band where people will stick to for gameplay. the performance to battery ratio will be important then.

I still have my Loki Mini Pro preorder. Hopefully it comes soon.

@DizY_8

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I only now noticed that it's been almost a year since I first placed an order for my Mini Pro. Hopefully, the wait will be worth it...

god. the more i watch you and ETAPrime review upcoming PC Handhelds, the more i want to replace my current PC setup. it such a dang cool device

@neovssmith19

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they got me😂.... I'm moving to a Ally with a E-gpu so I can have power and portability when I need it

@DaleonM4

Жыл бұрын

​@@neovssmith19u have the money for the proprietary e gpu from Asus?

@reesekilpatrick241

Жыл бұрын

Don’t do it if you like to play allot of random games

@neovssmith19

Жыл бұрын

@@DaleonM4 Not at the moment lol but it's a future proofing move I'm making.....by the time I feel like I need more power down the line its a option I will have

Its such a shame that Ayn fumbled the bag so hard in terms of delays and getting orders out. If this came out around a few months ago it wouldve been such a great competitor! But by now, other handhelds have already found their niche. The Ally seems to be a Windows-based Steam Deck competitor, GPD is committed to the keyboard + gamepad combo, Ayaneo has the overall form/functionality....so what can the Loki really offer now? Its a shame because Ayn's prices are usually the best around and are rather fair. Its just too late now.

@ColorblindMonk

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they didn't learn their lesson with the Ayn Odin, that having around two dozen SKUs to manufacture and ship at the same time will guarantee delays, and give their customers enough time to second-guess their purchase.

@jesusbarrera6916

Жыл бұрын

AYANEO really doesn't have anything anymore with the ALLY out

@Leo08x

Жыл бұрын

@Park Justin As someone who can't even afford a 300$ graphics card which is less than half of this handheld price and still less than even the cheapest Steam Deck, this comment hurt a little bit lol

@jerzydude94

Жыл бұрын

@Park Justin Cars are not comparable to niche video game handhelds lol

@Lulech23

Жыл бұрын

Aya Neo's marketing is strong, but they're in a really bad spot right now with AyaSpace. It's abysmal. You basically have to install a third-party control panel just to get complete Xbox controls. Based on this video alone, Ayn's software is lightyears ahead. I wasn't sure if they could actually deliver, but now that they have, I'd take Ayn over Aya 100%.

Unfortunately, AYN is just too late. With the Ally coming out next week for the same price and better specs, its just not worth getting anymore. I cancelled my Loki Max pre-order a couple weeks after the Ally was announced.

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

19:27

@TrowGundam

Жыл бұрын

@@TakiUdon Battery life doesn't really mean much to me. For me like 95% of the time I'm plugged in or could be plugged in easily if necessary. For me I'm more interested in just cranking the TDP to the most it can and playing anything with minimal tweaking necessary. If I was still traveling a lot maybe the lower TDP performance would be a plus, but as it is, its essentially a non-factor for me at least.

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

@@TrowGundam Then the two chips are even closer together. Once you exclude things that run better on RDNA 3, going wild on the TDP would make them more or less the same.

@TrowGundam

Жыл бұрын

@@TakiUdon Most of the stuff I play is very CPU limited, so it is more the Zen 4 CPU with Higher Clocks, rather than the RDNA3 GPU, that will benefit me. I'm a huge MMO player and most of them don't even max my 4090 on my Desktop because they are too starved for CPU. Same for a lot of emulation, not all I know, but most will be CPU bound. The extra CPU oomph should be at least noticeable in those use cases.

@mechanicalmonk2020

Жыл бұрын

​@@TrowGundam I'm looking forward to the Ally batteries failing left and right after discharging at 1.2C constantly

I'd love to see a direct performance to Ally especially since newest updates . And some battery tests would be great.

@UntrainableWizard

9 ай бұрын

I would second this. It would be great to see a true comparison if it's not already done yet ( I couldn't see, but ... I may also be blind. lol )

I reserved the Loki 512 GB almost a year ago and tried to hold on to it as long is I could. In the end I got the Ayaneo Geek on early bird prices and I'm very happy with it.

I definitely made the right choice waiting...I got mine for the $650 dollar price tag.

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

The chosen few

@mediaman9719

Жыл бұрын

Me too, almost cancelled. Then I decided, It's already paid for and I love my Odin so it's worth the wait. Hopefully won't be too long until they send it out to us smaller channels.😂

@JC7119

Жыл бұрын

@@TakiUdon I find this title acceptable 😂

@JC7119

Жыл бұрын

@@mediaman9719 I hope so.

@mugf00t

Жыл бұрын

Same. I have been wondering if I made the right decision. Very happy to see the reviews hitting today are so positive.

I’ve had my Odin Pro for over a year now and it’s awesome. Was going to upgrade to Loki Max but it’s too little too late. Gone for the Ally instead

@kyledoesntgetit5602

Жыл бұрын

At least you know your Ally will be in your hands next week. Good luck to anyone hopping onto the Loki train right now. It took Ayn months to sort out Odin issues and they're still having trouble with the joysticks for the Loki according to the Discord.

@DeadVoivod

Жыл бұрын

Same here, very happy with my Odin Pro, pre ordered the Loki Max 27th of July 2022, asked for a refund 2 weeks ago and pre ordered the ROG Ally.

@AxiomofDiscord

Жыл бұрын

I would have gotten an Ally if not for the fact it is Asus and I don't think they deserve my money right now.

@eros2144

Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomofDiscord dont worry i got you. I ordered 2 ❤❤❤

@AxiomofDiscord

Жыл бұрын

@@eros2144 I hope they don't catch on fire and/or explode.

These are the prices we will be seeing after ROG Ally is out. They are the right prices to charge and not overpriced like in the past.

It would be awesome if you can do guide on tuning these handhelds for maxmium battery for emulation.

I remember using my Ps vita under the covers and night trying to remote play Fallout 4 on my PS4 in the living room, I was content with my 15 FPS and high latency then, it’s crazy how now I can just run them natively on my steam deck or any of these other x86 handhelds

@devinrobertson5251

Жыл бұрын

15fps...? What?

@BigDeal0716

Жыл бұрын

@@devinrobertson5251 it’s an estimation, but I was using remote play 2 rooms away from my ps4 and the router so the connection was awful, I was just amazed that I was playing Fallout 4 on a handheld.

Have you heard anything about the mini pro? I've been holding onto my preorder ever since that contest in the discord for the mini amd

if you are allowed can you do a tear down to show SSD upgrade and how difficult is going to be to open the Loki Max. Thanks for the great and honest review

Rubber membranes isn't my thing - I love Odin's tactile clicky controls. Loki's D-pad clicks, right? Also I hope for AYN Loki costumers that it doesn't have that market leading high latency that Odin has.

How is the quality of the plastic? Will there be noticeable cracks around the device like the Ayaneo?

13:50 I'm curious what steps you took to bring down the TDP further from around 5w to 3w. Any chance you'll make a future video on this?

@jeanguillet3626

10 ай бұрын

Me too

Thanks for the video, Taki. Does the device have any rattle when you shake it?

very insightful, thanks.

Ah oh, you and Retro Game Corps posted a Loki Max Video near the same time!

What I like about the odin sticks is that I don't worry when I throw it in the small pocket of my rucksack.

I forgot I pre-ordered a Loki Max. Lol! Now it's a pleasant surprise for me that this will be another quality product from AYN albeit a little older Ryzen chip, but 6800U is still an excellent SoC and the price of Loki Max + Odin discount is great! Glad I forgot and didn't cancel it.

Are the ABXY better now for games that require fast presses? For example Pulstar, and fighting games that require fast presses to do moves, such as E Honda hand slaps?

Hi, i am sorry to ask this late, but how do you force that low tdp? Excellent review btw, you kind of convince me to buy the loki 256 =)

@Taki Udon What do you use to display the CR (I assume it stands for charge rate?) In the bottom center of screen like at 13:46 ?

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

Riva tuner and HWINFO

Please share where to find that screen saver.

I have a question for you I understand that the low-key has a mouse mode how does that work for Steam games that have partial controls

Just want to know if it got eGPU supoort or not. I kept my order thinking it will have eGPU support

I assume the random plastic sleeve is to be pulled slowly as it will create an optical illusion with the striped images underneath. Was hoping to see it in action 😀

@CouchDog

Жыл бұрын

Oh shit thats true

i went with the Loki Zero because I already have the Steam Deck and i think the Zero will be great for indie games and emulation

if you ever make anothe rvideo on this could you do a size comparison with the Ayaneo 2, Rog Ally and Steam Deck? I have plans of taking these things on the go with me and Size is paramount

what do you think about the odin 2? Adreno 740 vs this radeon 680M?

The screen looks so small in the middle of so much plastic, Idk. A smaller shell with a 720p screen for the Mendocino would make more sense to me.

I bought a loki max a couple weeks ago on ebay, how can I tell if my model has the hall sticks?

I heard the software on this is flawless unlike all the other handhelds out there that have glitches and stuff

@TakiUdon Odin 2 Max vs Loki Max....which would be the better choice? I am going to order one soon. I've been looking at those and also the Lenovo Legion Go. Any recommendations? I have an RG 405m, MM+, RG 351 and RG 350

@AlexRubio

9 ай бұрын

I would get an ally or legion warranty is not worth it on these Chinese only corps. Odin 2 is cheaper so that'll do it too since it's more like a phone.

I want that 3rd hand upgrade it provides...amazing! 😁

Can't wait for my loki!

What should I buy Odin 2 or this, I was thinking about chimera on Odin 2 for steam stuff but I'm not sure if even possible. I'd have to go down a rabbit hole on that one, but I just wonder what you guys think.

Really interested to see the lower end models

After using Odin 2. I'm interested in a Loki refresh. Any idea if Loki 2 or a refresh coming?

I was pretty certain I wanted a AyaNeo Air Pro, but now I'm not so sure... I'd really love a deep dive comparison between the two if Taki or anyone wants to make one, with how similar the two are, I'm sure, I'm not the only one who would be interested in seeing it happen.

@sinceredtb3227

Жыл бұрын

Your better off with the ally because it’s only $150 more than the Ayaneo and it’s honestly better

Are you able to upgrade the 6800 U to 7840 U or is the processor molded into the board?

@mr.kenway4554

Жыл бұрын

Its soldered to the board, swapping it out is impossible.

How many handhelds are there? Seems like a new one is released every week.

So you can't clean install a Windows installation with AtlasOS and then add the Loki stuff on top of it?

Please do a review of the Loki Mini Pro once it comes out. 🙏

Were the games tested at 1080p or 720p also was fsr used?

Are there any Ayn products with an Oled screen?

You need to do the mini next!

What did you have to do to get it under 5W? Hope the 40hz mode can be changed to work for 720p at least, else we have to depend on RSR. And the GPU on the LCC is supposed to be the max gpu clock?

I couldn’t install Netflix and Disney+ on my Ayn Odin through google play store. Will there be any restrictions on Ayn Loki as well?

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

No, and you can sideload those.

@alfalfasnow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Taki. I’ll get one for sure. Please keep ayn Loki contents coming.

All I want is a handheld with a Z1 Extreme and a 720p screen at around 6". That would have good enough visual fidelity for me, with great performance, battery and pixel perfect scaling. I don't understand these 1080p screens at all. I know they allow for better media consumption, but isn't the focus on gaming? Other than that, great little machine.

This looks pretty good actually. Nice control center software. I'm a Win 4 owner, but this looks not bad for a small non-keyboard style device.

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

You gettin the Steam Deck, Asus Rog Ally, or the Aokzoe?

@tappersreviews4677

Жыл бұрын

@@panamike6178 None of those. Don't like large devices and prefer physical keyboard. I own a Win 4, which is fantastic.

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

@@tappersreviews4677 Oh yeah, Win 4 nice man. That ones good. Seen a ton of gameplay videos. I'm interested in the Aokzoe, but worry about the support team if I run into issues.

Loki might be my next handheld console 😁😁

You know this is great and all, I'm very happy it's turning out good, but this is so far past the time it should've come out that I'm glad I canceled and just got a Steam Deck back in September. I've finished so many games in that time on my Steam Deck and it's been a great experience. I don't really trust Ayn to be timely in shipping these so I probably would've had to wait a whole year instead of just getting my Steam Deck and enjoying games now. I feel like a lot of what isn't talked about in the gaming handheld community is opportunity cost. You can wait for the new latest and greatest, but that's time you're not enjoying games now and Steam Deck does more than enough for me right now.

@unkown34x33

Жыл бұрын

Man that's great! :) I've seen what that Device can do... Not only you can play, but you can work with it. I'm from Brazil, and it's already selling like hot cake. With windows and 1tb option for 4k reals. That's cheap compere to what you get! :)) Awesome I will be getting mine next year September is my birthday. Bought a super expensive laptop already this year 😅

I don't think the screens too small or anything, but it kinda looks small with it up against the white machine

@netnomad47

Жыл бұрын

yea I think they should've gone with black bezzels

1:15 that's SO close to the Satisfye case!

Would it be possible to use loki control center on the steam deck windows 10? Instead of steam deck tool

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

That's a good question..

@brandon_nope

Жыл бұрын

Or use that tool ETAPrime promoted

Honestly, this thing should have been big punch 👊 👊 if it come out in December

@Aethelbeorn

Жыл бұрын

I prefer it when companies work out the kinks before sending out a half polished turd.

@hairypancake4425

Жыл бұрын

@@Aethelbeorn AYN wasted tons of time developing intel models which never see the light of day. Loki Max certainly can come out in December If they have clear plans for the models.

@dafaqu694

Жыл бұрын

@@hairypancake4425 yeah kind of their fault focusing with so many SKUs

What happens if you install the Steam Deck OS in it?

Does is animate if you slide the acetate?

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

No :\

I pre-ordered this on day 1 a year ago and still haven't received any updates on when it will ship. I gave up on Ayn. 🤦🏽‍♂️

Should I cancel my order for the Rog Ally and get this instead?

What are the speakers like?

That screen looks small to me

okay but can i take the thing apart and swap the ABXY buttons to be correct?

@brandon_nope

Жыл бұрын

Change it through Steam input

Beat looking handheld out of all of them in my opinion

@Futura2500

Жыл бұрын

looks too fisher price to me

@Eevolved32

Жыл бұрын

@@Futura2500 now you said it I see it

@fillerbunnyninjashark271

Жыл бұрын

​@@Futura2500 😂 it's even small enough for their hands

@Guitario666

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. It's a looker

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

I think the Steam Deck design is a bit nicer, and simple is better sometimes. The Asus Rog ally isn't bad at all though. Overall they're both real nice looking handhelds, Not too impressed with the design of the Aya Neo. Fisher Price huh? I'd say the Aya Neo 2 looks a lot more fisher price than the rog ally, google it.

Wait, Taki, what happened if you press and hold L1+R1 in game? That combination is very common in many action games, will it trigger mouse mode midgame?

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

It needs to be held for 3 seconds.

@MrWillypanda88

Жыл бұрын

@@TakiUdon apparently Hitman 3 uses holding L1+R1 to place stuffs. They better give option to change the shortcut to some other combination

@NateRD90

Жыл бұрын

​@MrWillypanda88 GPD has the best solution, in having a physical switch. Other companies should take note, especially since the Win 1 had this back in 2016, and was on all of GPD's devices since then.

it is about 6 months too late. They're are improving their production time though. Odin Lite was a year late.

Can I log into my Gamepass and steam with this?

Any plans to review the Retroid Flip? The new clamshell?

@TakiUdon

Жыл бұрын

No plans

@falsebaroness

Жыл бұрын

@@TakiUdon ah. Any news on other clamshell emulators coming out soon?

Does anyone happen to know the release date of this? The listing on their site says it’s a pre order.

@panamike6178

Жыл бұрын

Did you fantasize about this back in Chicago?

@3dPalmTree

Жыл бұрын

@@panamike6178 come again?

I am an early backer i thought it would be smaller I would have loved a 7inch for the size😔

@braineat

Жыл бұрын

You and have it smaller and cramped like gpd win 4 or big but ultra ergonomic like this. Something in between is Aya Neo Air Plus, but Loki is much more ergonomic

Wait so the sticks are Hall affect?

Looks awesome. Love to have one saving for a Asus ally, but this looks comparable.

That screen looks tiny in such a big shell i hate still seeing big bezels in 2023

@diezgp

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind. It's not a phone.

@KIKOMATSING69

Жыл бұрын

Go buy a phone tho

Hmm I ordered an odin yesterday...hope I don't regret that

What handheld is the most powerful? Is it the Ally?

@brandon_nope

Жыл бұрын

I believe currently it’s the AYANEO 2S

i wanted a loki mini pro so bad but wait times killed me and steam deck on sale caught me off... i still like the loki but i bought my handheld for the next 5 years already

Damnnn, there's a new handheld once a week now.

This is beautiful. Minimal and compact design. Ngl, aesthetically better than other handheld pcs.

will this be available in black?

Nice video...well done. I prefer the Steam Deck to this but that's just a personal choice. You do a good job of outlining why this is a viable alternative.

They sould send the device with the bag, as a apologies from the delay xD

while this thing is missing the Vita layout and keyboard from the Win4 that I love so much, I've gotta admit.. The Loki line are the most beautiful handhelds I've ever laid my eyes on.

how's battery life?

1:37 - Taki 3hands Udon

Listen man i ll be straight forward.. Can this thing play smoothly ps3 games with more than 40 fps? vulcan or open gl or whatever else.

Ally really killed the max!! I do appreciate the bigger analog sticks..you make it that much bigger , go with a 7" screen!!! Plus it took them a year and a half to get this designed!! Feel bad for the people who pre-ordered!!

Kinda nuts how all these new handhelds are best run at around 15w to be able to get a reasonable balance between power and battery life... seems to me the best spec just now is a better screen.

I suspect they might pull a Loki S model soon they used the 7000 series chip

Question is, why is there the same display on a larger device that was meant to be an improvement over past hardware? Seems like a misstep to me. I understand the desire from an ergonomic standpoint, but they definitely could have squeezed a 7 inch in there, just look at the size of those bezels on the Loki. Made worse by the fact that they made the comment about improving everything about the design of the Odin - most consumers have trouble sidegrading for a step up in price, especially when you're dressing it up as an upgrade. Not to mention all of the major competitors to this device (Switch OLED, Steam Deck, ROG Ally) all have 7 inch screens. I'd love to see this compared against the Deck, since a lot of people have said the ergonomics on that device are pretty great - I wonder if the Loki is any better, or more importantly worse, to see if the smaller screen size was truly worth it. Especially since the Loki Max comes in at more than both the Deck and Ally, which are both arguably better devices, either in hardware or user experience, in some cases both. I'd need hands-on before I made a concrete suggestion, but at this rate I see no reason to buy this over the Ally aside from extreme personal preference, as it's a better device in virtually every way for less money. Does everything this does but better and at $75 less (unless you backed the Odin). Not to mention the support/customer service on either the Deck or Ally would be leagues better because they're both backed by massive well-known and reputable companies. Definitely a case of too little too late from my current perspective.

can it play emulators like citra and dolphin?

Unfortunately the Odin Pro was not even close to be comfortable in my hands, I sold it just after a week (~4 months waiting). On the other hand (no pun intended), the Steam Deck is easily the most comfortable handheld I have ever experienced, Valve did well! Not interested in Ayn anymore sadly, add to that how late they release their devices from announcements, they've got to change that.

@raskolnikov6443

Жыл бұрын

This one looks very comfortable and is also much smaller than the deck.

If the prices remain low and they allow 20w tdp 1215u model might be a good pickup, capable of switch emulation at full speed.

Actually a good looking device. Buttons and sticks look good.