I Was Not Expecting this to Happen-Pt. 2

Үй жануарлары мен аңдар

In this video I'm working with an ex jumping horse who has been to rear and strike. I found out he had trouble accepting the saddle and bit in this video. I'm using natural horsemanship techniques to read him better and improve our overall communication and his understanding of pressure.
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  • @ryanrosehorsemanship
    @ryanrosehorsemanship3 ай бұрын

    If you would like to see more detailed training videos and ask me specific questions about your horse, consider joining my patreon page. Go to www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship

  • @bobkohl6779

    @bobkohl6779

    3 ай бұрын

    BO Zel... used to use them like crazy

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    I recommend the patreon page

  • @MLOCharmer

    @MLOCharmer

    3 ай бұрын

    Ridden not rode, dear. Use correct grammar when you speak. you sound a lot more professional when you use the right words

  • @srfotog

    @srfotog

    2 ай бұрын

    He’s in pain!

  • @srfotog

    @srfotog

    2 ай бұрын

    You need to x- ray him!

  • @walshy886
    @walshy8863 ай бұрын

    I'm impressed that you didn't "cowboy up" , but adjusted your training plan to circumstances.

  • @lindahollister5530

    @lindahollister5530

    3 ай бұрын

    That's right, training.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @michellejansen6165
    @michellejansen6165Ай бұрын

    No wonder most good trainers don’t post their good work. I see a lot of comments about pain. No, the horse is not in pain. Ryan is re-training him. We need the Ryan’s of the world! I am grateful for his leadership and willingness to endure online critics who never saw the horse in person. Thanks for the video.

  • @quest4knowledge768

    @quest4knowledge768

    12 күн бұрын

    I agree I feel like it's the easy fast answer for some people to just say oh pain that's why not because lack of training. Sme thing going on with parents today with their poorly behaved kids it's never the sugar or discipline to blame it always some "medical generality" problem.

  • @DryCreekWranglerSchool
    @DryCreekWranglerSchool3 ай бұрын

    If it were pain, as so many keyboard trainers have suggested on here, the horse would not have softened and done better after an hour. He would not have become unstuck at that last minute of the video. If it were physical pain, he would have just gotten worse. Mr. Rose was 100% correct in his approach in dealing with the mental and emotional problems in this horse. You cannot see in a video all the things that you can see while on the ground actually handling the horse. You cannot learn from watching what is happening if you are suggesting from a distance that you already suspect you know what is happening.

  • @tanyaoellermann

    @tanyaoellermann

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure you have a point but did you see how heavily he was breathing to the point his nostrils flared out.

  • @DryCreekWranglerSchool

    @DryCreekWranglerSchool

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tanyaoellermann I did. I have seen a lot of angry, spoiled horses do the exact same thing when they are asked to do something that they don’t want to do and have gotten away with saying no before.

  • @lorimcentarfer7413

    @lorimcentarfer7413

    3 ай бұрын

    I guess you're a keyboard trainer too

  • @DryCreekWranglerSchool

    @DryCreekWranglerSchool

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lorimcentarfer7413 Nope. I do it in real life for a living.

  • @horsesteward

    @horsesteward

    3 ай бұрын

    I have pain (mostly back and knees) every morning when I get up. After an hour or so of moving, I soften up too😉

  • @Cwgrlup
    @Cwgrlup3 ай бұрын

    Shame a beautiful horse like this who’s clearly athletic and smart has been mishandled. I can’t stop looking at him, he’s just so handsome.

  • @perkasami6305

    @perkasami6305

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. This really is such a beautiful horse. Just stunning. It's such a shame that someone mishandled him. I bet otherwise he would be such a gentle thing. He seems like a horse that likes to take his time to think about things, which tells you a lot about his intelligence. I'd love to have that horse. I can't stop looking at him, either. Just an absolutely beautiful horse.

  • @dreamofskye7400
    @dreamofskye74003 ай бұрын

    I think both Ryan and the owner have been involved with enough horses to know to first sort out possible pain issues. Ryan is not an idiot and the owner is clearly a caring and devoted horse owner. I trust Ryan.

  • @susanrjecker9208
    @susanrjecker92083 ай бұрын

    I like his comment: be prepared, not lucky

  • @chrisp7548
    @chrisp75483 ай бұрын

    So glad you can show us how important it is to work with the horse where they are at. It's way smarter to adjust plans than it is to force a horse to do something.

  • @Sandra-cm1du
    @Sandra-cm1du3 ай бұрын

    I am so glad the owner hired you to work with her horse. This horse needs you Ryan.

  • @lizarutherford2477
    @lizarutherford24773 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this. I love your systematic analysis. I love also that your Most Beloved Wife, Dr Emily, is a horse and human physio, and that as a matter of course possible pain is always ruled out first. You and Em are a terrific team, and here on You Tube we benefit from your combined wisdom even if Em isn’t visually present. I love your Patreon content, too. Great value.

  • @samanthadavies4813
    @samanthadavies48133 ай бұрын

    Hahaha I was riding my mare on the trails bridleless as we've done plenty times and I had closed my eyes to feel all her movements, totally relaxed and the next thing I knew I was on the ground and she was half way across the field 😂

  • @danielfaben5838
    @danielfaben58383 ай бұрын

    Not a horse guy.... thank you so much for showing how this is done. I have had opportunities to ride but have a great deal of respect (and caution) for the size and power of these animals. The subtleties have obviously taken you many years to learn. My friends with horses have never given me the slightest glimmer of these sensibilities.

  • @alimccully3718
    @alimccully37182 ай бұрын

    I am a "reknewed" rider. I used to ride when I was young. I am now 52 years old and haven't rode in 20 years. The first time I rode, I got thrown. Then I bought a beautiful horse that was trained really well. But since I was thrown I was afraid. He got barn spoiled and now I am more nervous. I am now taking riding lessons. Its me, I am the problem. I am learning everyday and I can't wait to ride my horse. Thank you for your videos!

  • @lizpetruzzi7700
    @lizpetruzzi77003 ай бұрын

    Def want to see part 3! Love this guy and watching him progress. I think he’s learning to trust more than anything. So thankful you can help him! Seems he’s been mishandled.

  • @valcurley5010
    @valcurley50103 ай бұрын

    As a massage therapist I would gently massage his gums and lips, also pulling gently his lips (especially the corners where the bit touches) top and bottom in any and all directions, and check his A-O joint for misalignment. Most jumpers are ridden with a lot of mouth gear and have dead mouths as well as pain so your plan to work more with the bit is a good one. When I have a horse with similar reactions to the bit, I massage the gums and lips first then softly massage with the bit, and sometimes work his gums and lips with the bit in. Also check the masseter and frontal muscles for pain/tension.

  • @Goldenhawk583

    @Goldenhawk583

    3 ай бұрын

    His wife is a physical therapist for horses, they always do a full evaluation to rule out pain, illness or other medical problems first. The horse is not in pain, he is reacting to bad memories.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Goldenhawk583 I agree

  • @momislazy
    @momislazy3 ай бұрын

    The head shaking with the lateral flexion almost as if he has pain

  • @stephanglo8234

    @stephanglo8234

    3 ай бұрын

    yep that right side id guess has something going on in either c6-c7 or tmj maybe

  • @petrairene

    @petrairene

    3 ай бұрын

    Had the same thought. Would have a vet check him out.

  • @lakota123max

    @lakota123max

    3 ай бұрын

    I would think he has hock pain … he moves like it … even his stifle joints move oddly… perhaps needs his stifles injected with good joint acid and those hocks X-rayed … he is a large horse and the hocks go first and then the stifles and then the spinal column.

  • @falconk9

    @falconk9

    3 ай бұрын

    yup, saw the hock or stifle issue early in the video as well. @@lakota123max

  • @Rescuemacaws

    @Rescuemacaws

    3 ай бұрын

    I was wondering that watching the first video of the horse moving. Hope no pain.💜

  • @jessicadern8702
    @jessicadern87023 ай бұрын

    Yep, my young warmblood is coming to you in a couple months for this reason - can’t wait to see his progress!

  • @debralynn3099
    @debralynn30993 ай бұрын

    I agree about pain. A lot of bad behavior is from pain. Snaffle bits cause severe scarring on the roof and bars of the mouth. UC Davis discovered this many moons ago. It’s one of the worst things you can use. I absolutely love this man’s training..but what many trainers don’t and can’t out of lack of knowledge is the equipment.. I was an equine vet assistant for many years. Find a bit that your horse is happy with. A soft curb usually does the trick both western & English. Then make sure the saddle isn’t pinching or rubbing. You’ll need experts in that field to help if you’re having issues. Poor horses try to communicate their discomfort and pain…usually no one’s listening.

  • @krisztinamagda1559
    @krisztinamagda15593 ай бұрын

    We do battle reactment and take a big deal of training horse to stay calm in many different disturbing circumstances, but at home to make the total battle experience is impossible, so the best practice when a horse is first time in the action we keep the new ones in between the experienced calm horses. This was the old days of horse training in my country (Hungary), as a foal learned everything from it's mom what life is like around humans, always learn new things in the company of experienced horses. I appreciate your lessons, we don't have this luxury anymore, learning from you, since we have a dominant young mare.

  • @fion1flatout

    @fion1flatout

    3 ай бұрын

    We make things so difficult when we don't have mature solid horses.. 😅 I have a boss mare too. She's ride and drive but a bit scared of big lorries and won't listen. She's only a pony, if I knew anyone with an old cart horse we could probably sort it in no time.

  • @lorimcentarfer7413
    @lorimcentarfer74133 ай бұрын

    Gotta agree with momislazy, has this horse been vetted for any chiropractic issues? Teeth issues? If he was an ex-jumping horse, he may have jarred something out of whack. He looks like he's trying but having pain and can't do it. Especially with the shaking of the head after each time...

  • @roseschaefer5079

    @roseschaefer5079

    3 ай бұрын

    The thing is though none of it showed up when the pressure came from the halter, implying that the bit is the problem. Could be teeth I suppose...

  • @tillyme1940

    @tillyme1940

    3 ай бұрын

    Something definitely wrong with this horses body 😢

  • @jeanedevries1

    @jeanedevries1

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Dental exam and chiropractic would be my thoughts as well. The poor guy seems willing to learn and accept what Ryan is teaching but there’s possibly some thing else happening

  • @Beckybirt

    @Beckybirt

    3 ай бұрын

    May still be hurting from ulcers

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    His wife is a physical tharipist-and they always check to make sure it isn't pain

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious113 ай бұрын

    All that head shaking during and after lateral flexion to the right…something tickles? hurts? pinches? ears? neck? teeth?

  • @Horse_girl_4life
    @Horse_girl_4life3 ай бұрын

    He truly is a beautiful horse

  • @kidstuff44555
    @kidstuff445553 ай бұрын

    Something very common in show jumping and cross country is over-bitting, basically using a leverage or twisted wire bit (or both) combined with a tight drop noseband to prevent them opening their mouth. Which might explain his reaction to bit pressure in the flexing. He is expecting pain from the bit and proactively fighting it. Its not uncommon to see horses bleeding from the mouth during professional show jumping comps.

  • @LK-mo8bj

    @LK-mo8bj

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly my thought too! All these comments saying it's a medical issue, but I think it's a learned issue from remembered pain. Even without harsh bits, people can be cruel with the hands.

  • @evelynwaugh4053

    @evelynwaugh4053

    2 ай бұрын

    I would think that would be an automatic disqualification because it's so unnecessary and cruel.

  • @kidstuff44555

    @kidstuff44555

    2 ай бұрын

    @@evelynwaugh4053 Unfortunately you only need to watch professional eventing to see that double twisted wire gag bits, combined with a lever noseband, chain under the jaw, and a martingale, are legal and used. Marilyn Little rode a horse Scandalous in just such a combo in 2018 if you google you'll see blood in the horses mouth

  • @donnac.1609
    @donnac.16093 ай бұрын

    Great video! Such a nice horse and glad you are involved! Looking forward to seeing the progress!!

  • @carollinnan4268
    @carollinnan42683 ай бұрын

    loved seeing the progress and how you are working through his past issues and really taking the time he needs.

  • @Faelani38
    @Faelani383 ай бұрын

    well we learned alot today. I am glad he is working through it. Thank you for helping him out.

  • @taradaktyl
    @taradaktyl3 ай бұрын

    Mesmerized by these videos!! You’re a real horse whisperer. Thank you for sharing your knowledge ❤

  • @Inish
    @Inish3 ай бұрын

    Very cool and interesting series with this horse, I hope there will be a part 3. Might also be worth checking his teeth, they can often be a problem that is not immediately obvious, but cause pain to the horse. This horse is really gorgeous too, love the videos! 🥰👍

  • @j3nnpi3tr
    @j3nnpi3tr3 ай бұрын

    I really like this horse! Can't wait to see the progress!

  • @user-bk6mo8xb8q
    @user-bk6mo8xb8q3 ай бұрын

    I enjoy seeing the process & I am glad you are taking it slow. Good for you!!

  • @christianlutes5593
    @christianlutes55933 ай бұрын

    Head shaking with bit, he’s not acting disrespectful

  • @kaiwindingwest
    @kaiwindingwest3 ай бұрын

    That horse is gorgeous! Nice work Ryan, great video

  • @user-lg6xn8kx4i
    @user-lg6xn8kx4iАй бұрын

    So thankful for these videos, and thank you for giving us the Patreon information

  • @nancyjb7080
    @nancyjb70803 ай бұрын

    This horse has improved greatly since the last video- he is beautiful so I hope he gets to where he needs to be for his owner; your videos are enjoyable to watch and it is always amazing to see the transformation in the horses

  • @lakota123max
    @lakota123max3 ай бұрын

    One example for being calm is when I was at an endurance race riding a young warm blood and it was cool and windy at the start and the wind caught a hold of the tent at the register area and it flew off over our heads…there was about 30 horses standing around me and they all reacted and some began to frek out so I grabbed the reins of my daughters horse while I was mounted and said whoa loudly and since my large 17.2 hand horse stood there… all the horses looked my way and didn’t run off… lol … a similar thing happened when I was riding my appy out in the field with my family and my older daughter’s standard bred who thinks he is a stud did a loud blowout thru his nose and stood there like a clown watching the other horses run … one horse ran right into my horse’s ribs and I yelled whoa and the other horses stopped and looked while I laughed holding the morab and my lovely appy never moved… I miss her dearly…😢… she foundered right after a west Nile vaccine and had to be put down:( she was a wild mustang and was one of the nicest most honest horse I ever rode.

  • @equineorthotics

    @equineorthotics

    3 ай бұрын

    I am so sorry for your loss. I spoke with Ft Dodge vet after a competition horse had a paralyzed LF for several days after a vaccine. There are huge numbers of adverse events.

  • @millicentrowan
    @millicentrowan3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for showing your response to him pulling that badly on the bit. Sometimes i feel like I'm doing too much or too little when they respond like that, but you showed a nice medium.

  • @chrisharper7950
    @chrisharper79503 ай бұрын

    It seems as though he may have pain in his mouth. Have his teeth been done? Head shaking…..throwing it up…..chewing. Something hurts.

  • @encoresbar
    @encoresbarАй бұрын

    Ryan is the real deal. He has helped me tremendously. He can read the horses so well. He helped me gain more confidence

  • @stephaniesmith3864
    @stephaniesmith38643 ай бұрын

    Thank you for continuing to share updates on the progress. This is a very interesting horse to see your interactions.

  • @supplechasehopeviewfarm
    @supplechasehopeviewfarm3 ай бұрын

    He reminds me of one of the geldings I have here and his responses are similar during ground work. Looking forward to the next video 😊

  • @emmab4323
    @emmab43233 ай бұрын

    This is a beautiful, sensitive horse. What a good boy he is actually Great heart.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439
    @stephannewenhisen64393 ай бұрын

    Awesome video Ryan!

  • @audreygregis8721
    @audreygregis87213 ай бұрын

    Personally, I don't like the way his back end is moving at a trot or canter. Actually, on both sides, whether he goes right or left. I don't like any of his responses, especially with his head. This is an agitated horse. Not a horse that needs training. He's acting like this because he hurts. If he's been looked at by an equine chiropractor, I'd be finding another chiro. When this gelding's owner said people couldn't believe she owned this horse, wow, did that bring back memories. Years ago, 20 to be exact, I adopted a gorgeous horse from a rescue. Paid a handsome sum for her, too....and just like this owner, people couldn't believe I now owned this mare. Then the former farrier wanted to talk to me. He actually said, "I know she's beautiful, but she's not worth getting hurt over"...and it went on and on....the stories I heard that an equitation stable did to her were horrible. She was a horse in pain. I kept seeing something in the back end, when everyone else said she was fine. Well, she wasn't fine. Finally found a chiro...and my gosh, this horse was out all over...ribs, neck, pelvis. Her back end was sooo bad, we kept putting it back in place, then it would go out. The chiro said she had been out for sooo long, she wasn't sure she would ever be right. My vet knew the rescue, got in my face and told me to give her back, that I didn't cause her issue, the previous owners did. Gave her back, cried my eyes out. Stupid owner and the stable ruined a beautiful, beautiful mare.

  • @topolinofarm9343

    @topolinofarm9343

    3 ай бұрын

    except that the horse has already been evaluated for pain... Ryan's wife is fully qualified to make that assessment as she has demonstrated in a couple other videos.

  • @caleighrutledge4202
    @caleighrutledge42023 ай бұрын

    I hope you keep this series going. Have one with less baggage but more "electric" and this is very interesting to watch and learn from

  • @Cathan1856
    @Cathan18563 ай бұрын

    A friend put a saddle on her horse and it had a strap that kind of tickled its belly, not a back cinch, and her horse bucked like crazy, and she got really hurt. Good to see how to be safe rather than sorry and get them used to things. Love the check list. Good to also hear the thought processes, why you are using the bit instead of the other tools.

  • @amymhrslvr
    @amymhrslvr3 ай бұрын

    Love watching Ryan Rose training sessions! My favorite horse trainer on YT! :) I've got to agree with everyone who says, this horse seems to have pain in his mouth. He needs to be seen by an equine dentist. Also I highly suspect he has ulcers and might be why his sensitivity around his flanks. I know it was mentioned in the previous video that he had ulcers and it was treated, but ulcers do come back. Might also be the reason why he started as docile for a month and then he transformed, as the ulcers kicked in. Changing owners/places and feed schedule can be a stressful situation to a horse, which would definitely cause it. (the ulcers). I'm sure Ryan has the knowledge and love to help this beautiful boy!

  • @mikewatson49
    @mikewatson493 ай бұрын

    You have great videos and are truly talented, my wife and I love watching you.

  • @lisaweinberger4197
    @lisaweinberger41973 ай бұрын

    It's very interesting how his whole demeanor changed once you asked for lateral flexion with the bit. Looks like you definitely identified one major source of his body tensions and behavior issues. I think he has the potential to be a great horse; it's fun watching you help this guy sort through his troubles

  • @dave-d
    @dave-d3 ай бұрын

    Teeth? Amazing to remember at this stage that we put each others life in our hands / hooves. Out there on the trail anything can happen and to have that bond of trust both ways is such an honor and responsibility. I love the sharing of senses and both of you knowing you are looking out for each other. I worked "metal free" for a while, (no bits or shoes), and to my surprise found the going was easy. Feeling the proper grip in the feet and easy head response felt good. Had the right horse. I have met horses who don't like the flapping bits of straps around their face. The bridle was ok when all the strap end keepers were sorted. Nice work Ryan. Thanks.

  • @NuggieIsMissing

    @NuggieIsMissing

    3 ай бұрын

    It could be teeth. But it's important to remember that this horse has also had a lot of time off so it could just be getting used to it again. As for the metal free thing, it's important to remember that not every horse will be okay in a bitless not to mention you're putting direct pressure on their nose which has more sensitive nerves and can cause a lot of distress. It just depends on the horse though

  • @dave-d

    @dave-d

    3 ай бұрын

    @@NuggieIsMissingAbsolutely. Very gentle hands and it has to be the right horse. Good point on the time off. I've seen horses go feral more than once! Great fun bringing them back into work. I met one that if it heard a human speak it would disappear into the woods. All I could do was sit in the paddock and make silly noises to get her back! Curiosity got the better of her in the end but real slow work. Horse time is not like human time. I swear they have a sense of humor. Gotta love them.

  • @magdalenagauderon3754
    @magdalenagauderon37543 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the videos.what you say about the Horse being able to pick up the calm in the person needing to be thaught i find realy interesting.that is definitaly something i havent thought of before and it makes sense.so thank you.i love when the Horse finaly comes out of himself and starts being a Horse again with all those innate atributes like willingness,curiosity and play.thats where joy finds its place .before he had a lot of brasses.

  • @dinosaurwoman
    @dinosaurwomanАй бұрын

    I noticed this in the first video and see it here as well: This fella really communicates a lot with his ears. It's very interesting to watch. He's quite lovely and seems to be doing a lot of the normal things horses do when they're learning. He looks pretty when he bucks! 😁

  • @down2this754
    @down2this7543 ай бұрын

    That looks like pain avoidance

  • @karlachampe5047

    @karlachampe5047

    Ай бұрын

    Check out 17:14 minutes. He explains why the horse does this

  • @tsreiki
    @tsreiki3 ай бұрын

    Love watching this.. i agree he looks in pain but also seems a bit traumatised.. i would be working with the signals his ears are giving off, would love to see release there

  • @deborahfarooq3492
    @deborahfarooq34923 ай бұрын

    Oh that was beautiful to see. I love animals. Just as a human needs respect ,so does a horse or any animal need respect. He is a really great trainer who reads the horse very well and understands the animal. As well as mentally of the horse of his emotions .

  • @danielapeetz5173
    @danielapeetz51733 ай бұрын

    I would like to check the teeth and the stomach.. right side is typical also for stomach problems.. pressure and bending and all this stuff.. great work.. I love it 👍

  • @SandraBurnett-xl7ff
    @SandraBurnett-xl7ff3 ай бұрын

    I love the soft, patient way Ryan works with this horse. A very well known horseman used to always say “ never rush a horse” and Ryan’s willingness to meet the horse where he is and adapt his methods and timeline to meet the horse’s needs is commendable. I do want to comment on the horse’s very labored breathing even after it appears he’s been standing for a bit. I’ve only seen that type of panting breathing in a horse that isn’t sweating in a couple of horses I’ve known that had anhidrosis. It appears from the palm trees this is a hot climate - FL, AZ - where incidences of anhidrosis in horses are much more common than in cooler climates. His breathing is more like a racehorse after a race than a horse that is doing a little bit of relatively slow ground work.

  • @jw8082
    @jw80823 ай бұрын

    "Red lights" should include recognizing when a horse is in pain.

  • @Goldenhawk583

    @Goldenhawk583

    3 ай бұрын

    His wife is a physical therapist for horses, they always do a full evaluation to rule out pain, illness or other medical problems first. The horse is not in pain, he is reacting to bad memories.

  • @annachantalbottone2212

    @annachantalbottone2212

    3 ай бұрын

    @hawk583 So I assume that they also ask a vet to check the horse mouth.

  • @Goldenhawk583

    @Goldenhawk583

    3 ай бұрын

    @@annachantalbottone2212 If having a bit in the mouth, just being in the mouth, and hardly any preassure on it was painful, then the horse would not be eating normally. I am not sure why , but why would you assume that they dont know what they are doing?

  • @krisbaker9427

    @krisbaker9427

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Goldenhawk583 Maybe we don’t think he knows what he is doing because we also watched the video and saw him applying too much pressure.

  • @wendypippert1499
    @wendypippert14992 ай бұрын

    Poor guy seems to be handled wrong and was bullied.. Thank you for taking the time to open up a healthy communication..

  • @sharonburgess9488
    @sharonburgess94883 ай бұрын

    He was ridden by a head set up that hurt him. Jumping horse you said??? His mouth was manhandled maybe.

  • @user-eq6ds9ku3u
    @user-eq6ds9ku3u2 ай бұрын

    I had an experience with an Arabian mare once where she bolted into a gallop with me during a riding lesson. She heard my trainer ask if I wanted to canter, I said no, but she anticipated canter, took off, and then started galloping with me. I was calm and relaxed for two laps and was trying to just ride it out but eventually I lost my balance and fell off. :)

  • @nicsxnin6786
    @nicsxnin67863 ай бұрын

    The reaction was pain or discomfort. He has shown he is intelligent and willing and he is giving you very clear signals of discomfort and I’m at a loss as to why you are just ignoring him.

  • @kerrypickens8594

    @kerrypickens8594

    2 ай бұрын

    I am at a loss as why you think you know more than the trainer does.

  • @nicsxnin6786

    @nicsxnin6786

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kerrypickens8594 oh I just trained horses for 30 years

  • @chriscook8076
    @chriscook80763 ай бұрын

    Yep Ryan, had one flip over on his back. Reared straight up and came down on his back. Had we not been in a round pen with fairly soft sand, I’d have been mashed. As it was, I broke my left hand when the saddle came down as I put my hand up in defense.

  • @wilmaknight9127
    @wilmaknight912712 күн бұрын

    Had a horse at our yard that was a jumper, had ulcers , he became so dangerous even after treated he couldnt be ridden. He had the sweetest nature you could tack him up even hack out at a walk, but anything above that nope. So the big guy 17hh cross warmblood , became the best friend to any new horses that arrived . Vet had said he thought as the ulcers had been pretty bad, he wondered if pain rememberance was a trigger.

  • @headshot_hermionegranger7401
    @headshot_hermionegranger740120 күн бұрын

    I used to be in a mounted unit. I was riding a horse as part of his re-evaluation ride for injuring another rider. He'd broken her spine in several places. There is a standardized list of tasks we have to achieve to "clear" a horse post-incident. Part of clearing them is taking them on a group ride in a large ring and going through pace transitions for a set amount of time. At that time, it was a minimum of an hour. We were walking, he was the second horse in a line formation. The horse in front of us reared and ran. My horse then decided to demonstrate that he'd missed a career in the bronc riding circuts. He did this by bucking his way through a solid two-thirds of the ring. That was truly an impressive performance. I saw about half of it from the ground. I knew what I was signing up for when I agreed to do the evaluation on him. I'd known this horse for years. With him you were either fine or you wouldn't be, and there was no point in getting panicked about it. Seeing the front of his neck wasn't fully unexpected on my part. They did end up discharging him. Turns out when you have a horse that has broken more than one person's spine, they aren't suited for public service.

  • @petrairene
    @petrairene3 ай бұрын

    Maybe he has some kind of orthopedic problem in his neck so the bending is uncomfortable or hurts? The head shaking when he is asked to do it is suspicious.

  • @Goldenhawk583

    @Goldenhawk583

    3 ай бұрын

    His wife is a physical therapist for horses, they always do a full evaluation to rule out pain, illness or other medical problems first. The horse is not in pain, he is reacting to bad memories.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Goldenhawk583 yep. I'm sure that they always check them out before they start training

  • @elizabethbrunner7378
    @elizabethbrunner73783 ай бұрын

    Riding a young (3yr old) nice and quiet and relaxed and he came unglued when the neighbor’s dog ran under his feet. Went from relaxed to upside down in a heartbeat.

  • @Goldenhawk583

    @Goldenhawk583

    3 ай бұрын

    U had a similar experience, Was riding last in line, about 10 horses, and everything was dine. The 3 year old I was riding was as gentle as anyone could wish for. Suddenly all the horses just took off in all directions, riders went flying everywhere:D My young one just did not know where to go, where to put his feet, where to run or anything, his feet made this insane dance.. but he never left the spot. Lol, it was not my expert riding that kept me in the saddle.,, it was his total confusion, lol.

  • @TobiasMerijnMoes
    @TobiasMerijnMoes3 ай бұрын

    I started training an ardenner to be a wagon horse. She is really introverted and can blow up out of nowhere and she don't allow leading from behind. She took of 2 times with the pulling lines and lost all connection. Now we went to saddle training with your fundamentele training and she does brilliantly. It's a draft horse that doesn't want to draft 😂. But your training videos have helped a lot. So thank you for your help and InSite

  • @tanyaoellermann
    @tanyaoellermann3 ай бұрын

    You know when everyone is saying pain, regardless of.him being checked out a second opinion is good to have. Beautiful boy.

  • @peggybrinkerhoff3294
    @peggybrinkerhoff32943 ай бұрын

    Nice! Thank you

  • @melanielienhard1643
    @melanielienhard1643Ай бұрын

    i ride a horse which is very introverted and sometimes she bucks out of the blue. we have checked her saddle she got a new one now and we checked her for ulcers and we had to treat her. But I am still not sure if these issues were the whole reason for her to buck. she is a very brave horse but she reacts to sound (street). sometimes i feel that she gets stuck just as you said in that video. Your videos really help to get new inputs in how to check and finding out where the problem is. really appreciate it!

  • @hannesofie6071
    @hannesofie60712 ай бұрын

    Not surprised peoples first thought were pain...... I was thinking wolf teeth! But the way he softened and relaxed was really nice! 🥰🥰 After more than 40 years with horses (both work and hobby) I have several scary stories! 😅😅 But also stories so precious you must have been ther to believe them! ❤❤ Horses are phenomenal and they teach you new skills all the time!!!

  • @neilbulington7011
    @neilbulington70113 ай бұрын

    Was riding a horse about 6 months ago that was very spooky before me and thought we had worked enough that it was safe but it definitely turned into a try to hold on. He spooked and bolted

  • @marleneeisnor9719
    @marleneeisnor97193 ай бұрын

    Really pretty horse

  • @user-pj1zl8kf3m
    @user-pj1zl8kf3m3 ай бұрын

    You’re amazing

  • @falconk9
    @falconk93 ай бұрын

    Has this horse seen a chiropractor? He's shaking his head quite a bit makes me wonder if his poll is out. Since he was a former jumper, I wouldn't be surprised if he had ulcers or was magnesium deficient.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm sure they check them out to make sure

  • @falconk9

    @falconk9

    3 ай бұрын

    @stephannewenhisen6439 you would be surprised. Most trainers don't know how to check the horse over for possible problems such as the ones I mentioned. I used to work with a trainer that did check the horse upon arrival, videoed it for owner and had them get various problems addressed prior to working with said horse.

  • @stephannewenhisen6439

    @stephannewenhisen6439

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falconk9 That's a good sestym-but remember, Ryan is like most trainers

  • @Nutmeg142
    @Nutmeg1423 ай бұрын

    What’s always exciting, besides what I learn in the actual videos, are all the armchair trainers in the comments and commenters in the comment section. I guess it does help the algorithm.

  • @Bluemoonfarm17

    @Bluemoonfarm17

    3 ай бұрын

    Right??? And amateur veterinarians! 😂 I was thinking the same thing… it’s rather amusing.

  • @timminstraprs2169
    @timminstraprs21693 ай бұрын

    I’m not really a riding guy, but I do like driving. I bought a “broke” Belgian, he would line drive nicely. First time I hitched him….disaster! I’ve learned through reading and you tube video’s, like yours, I am just as much to blame as he is. So for the past half a year I’ve been working on him and me. When you see the results of your training…..priceless.👍✌️

  • @barbarawitt9989
    @barbarawitt99893 ай бұрын

    He's shaking his head; holding his right ear at an odd angle, as soon as the snaffle went in...an awful lot of mouthiness. Is that head gear bothering him, do you think?

  • @donnac.1609
    @donnac.16093 ай бұрын

    I'm wondering if this horse soured on jumping and ended up a real mess. Learned to avoid jumps by going off base we when required to turn to the right..... Knew a trainer yrs ago that bought a jumping horse...seller showed horse over one jump. He bought the horse, set up several jumps, and found that the first jump was fine, but the horse went bananas on the 2nd jump and was flat out dangerous!

  • @debrabish1494
    @debrabish14942 ай бұрын

    Is the bit hitting the top of his pallet-love the german silver or aurigan Herm Sprenger 3 piece bit with a rotated bullet-horses are not usually trying to hurt-they are trying to be comfortable-

  • @heidibujak5368
    @heidibujak53683 ай бұрын

    Great video. He seems uneducated but not necessarily bad.

  • @NaunetteMartin
    @NaunetteMartinАй бұрын

    I like the way you work with horse 🐎 Nanette

  • @barbiebeckford2988
    @barbiebeckford29882 ай бұрын

    Enjoying this and your process and narration. The reaction to the bit with right flexion and his head shaking after made me wonder if there’s some sort of pain. Teeth or trigeminal nerve? It didn’t seem completely behavioral to me, I though he really seemed a bit physically uncomfortable. Maybe I’ll find out in the next video.

  • @corinneguest
    @corinneguestАй бұрын

    Nice follow up video on this guy. He's definitely a little "stale". No doubt he wont take too long to recall and respond without get too upset. Following with interest.

  • @glenndavis6212
    @glenndavis6212Ай бұрын

    I gentle broke an Arabian and tries to use a bit, and he was not happy with a bit, so I used a hackmore and spent a lot of time getting him comfortable to the hackmore before I even got in the saddle. He was comfortable with the hackmore and got his trust so anything that you can do to build trust helps

  • @horseshine6137
    @horseshine61373 ай бұрын

    Have his teeth been checked? Is it possible he has had a neck injury? I would ask a vet to have a look in his mouth at the very least. Try flexion without a bit in to see if he still shows pain on flexion.

  • @lana3392
    @lana339214 күн бұрын

    Stupid tax I really think paid off: I decided to slowly and calmly lead my new lease into his stall when I knew he had dragged a few students in, bolting from pretty much the moment their lesson was done and they left the arena. Managed to step into the stall first, but was nearly run over. We’ve been working on following and yielding a lot since then and get better every time 😊

  • @spfisterer3651
    @spfisterer36513 ай бұрын

    Had loads of "oh shit" moments. Last one was in December when a wild hog jumped out of bushes - maybe 6 - 8 feet away - while I was cantering by . Let's just say I was very lucky that I stayed on.

  • @ziggystardust3060
    @ziggystardust30603 ай бұрын

    It seems he's more challenged on his right side, both with the knuckle pressure to the ribs, and with his neck. Perhaps he needs a chiropractic adjustment? I love your videos Ryan! (watching from the UK)

  • @teresaedwards1591
    @teresaedwards15913 ай бұрын

    Getting prepared instead of lucky ☘️ boy I know that I've been there with learning with my boys 🐎🐎 two of them about the same time walked on accidently pushed on

  • @debraknorenberg1163
    @debraknorenberg11633 ай бұрын

    I love your training videos and your style. Yes I got a horse story to share. I’ll put it like this: I remember the first time I ever saw the crazy horse monument. I thought to myself, that’s definitely not me! And that’s definitely not my crazy horse! First, they didn’t get my nose right and second, my eyes were a lot lot bigger and opened wide at the time! My expression was one of shock disbelief and dismay. And my hair was completely wild and undone. And that’s all I have to share about that and my crazy horse of yester year.

  • @debraknorenberg1163

    @debraknorenberg1163

    3 ай бұрын

    By the way: I’m pretty sure my crazy horse was smiling, free as she was with me on her bareback and no bridle or halter.

  • @debraknorenberg1163

    @debraknorenberg1163

    3 ай бұрын

    And yes, I did it again... better the next time... these video lessons are super awesome and helpful! Thank you! and I hoped you enjoyed my horse (aka horrors) story and I'm glad I can look back at it and laugh, sort of

  • @annepettit3855
    @annepettit38553 ай бұрын

    When my first horse developed a stifle issue the intermittent pain from that would make him very not-calm - understandably! On the other hand, he had an unexpected close encounter with cows, which terrified him into freezing, but he trusted me to get him out of it. I miss riding him so much, but he has too many physical issues, so now he’s “uncle” to my young horse. BTW, too many warmblood performance horses just don’t get enough education about regulating their bodies and emotions. “Holes” is putting it nicely.

  • @crking685
    @crking6853 ай бұрын

    I love Ryan Rose, watch his videos all the time. In this one, I agree with everything he says and does. I do wonder though, if the flank rope might impinge somewhat on the sheath underneath. Often male horses have minor issues of hygiene within the sheath that aren't serious but do cause sensitivity. The other question that comes to mind is, in training, how do we recognize when a horse is just becoming stoic about discomfort through the training. I'm sure Ryan watches for that but how can we learners recognize it?

  • @finngamesknudson1457
    @finngamesknudson14572 ай бұрын

    You are right. As a view I’m slightly disappointed to have never seen things “go western” with you astride. On the other hand I really appreciate all the info you provide to help me never have to ride through “going western.” Luckily our gelding is fairly low response. He’s done crow hopping a couple times but quits instantly if put into a turn and those hops aren’t much rougher than his trot so even I don’t fall off. I find my own ways to end up on the ground 😂.

  • @kaseraven9341
    @kaseraven9341Ай бұрын

    I've definitely been in a situation where the horse I was riding was NOT connected with me & freaking out a bit, but I was cool as a cucumber. I'd taken over the Horsemanship program at my school & we were riding in the Pony Express parade. A lot of extra noises that our horses don't hear on a regular basis. The horse I was riding has been in the parade before. The ride itself was decent. He needed a few reminders of his manners, but nothing out of control or over the top. At the end of the parade, we had to stand still while the Pony Express Riders were being sworn in. My horse would NOT sit still. He kept dancing around and wouldn't listen to my commands. I was completely calm. He just wasn't connected with me or receiving my low energy. Now I know what kind of work I need to do with him before next years ride.

  • @BereiterFN2009
    @BereiterFN20092 ай бұрын

    Yes, he softened a bit, that does not mean that he is not in pain. His expression, constant tail swishing and his general expression indicates pain to me. I hope I am wrong

  • @WallabyfromBillings
    @WallabyfromBillings3 ай бұрын

    Just curious. What are his teeth like? Have they been floated at all? Edit: After watching you move his head with the halter and then the rein, he is hurting. Maybe check his teeth.

  • @payne7028
    @payne70283 ай бұрын

    Wondering if he would have the same reaction under the English saddle?

  • @jenz4524
    @jenz45243 ай бұрын

    Story time: My late gelding farted loud, spooked himself and pulled me off of my feet because I was lunging him. As soon as I got up, I was too busy laughing and he was looking at me like "I could've been hurt!" I just got my horse AJ and found he has a healed scar and two little scars on each side of his mouth where somebody was very rough with him in his mouth. He gets scared when I put his halter or hackamore on. I have gotten him to the point where I can deworm him with no issues and open his mouth, but as far as a bit, that is a no go.

  • @bethkemp5715
    @bethkemp57153 ай бұрын

    I hear “he used to jump. A “jumping” horse. My limited knowledge says he wore a saddle. But as the video progresses, I realize he wore an English (?) saddle. Gentle, knowledgeable and caring trainer.

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