So nice to see them bring back former employees to host, shout out to the LMG Group.

@taara001

Жыл бұрын

Linus Media Group Group

@cetvrlog

Жыл бұрын

Linus media group group group

@t20594

Жыл бұрын

So sad that Colton was fired.

@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst

Жыл бұрын

​@@t20594 why?

@shadow20482

Жыл бұрын

​@@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst colton was fired one time for being the cause of a copyright strike one time, thought it was a joke, continued to work, was rehired, now it's a running gag to say that colton was fired for something or that he was the cause for something to go wrong

The bottom and controller is clearly labeled EffyDesk, which is a Canadian maker of sit stand desks. That XL desk is about the size of Effy's "Medium", which Effy sells in 6 different tops materials for $696. So, you're almost paying double for something that is a little smaller than Effy's Medium, made out of recycled chopsticks.

@HappyZavulon

Жыл бұрын

I feel like this is a scam for rich people who want to look responsible.

@OccupiedMuffins

Жыл бұрын

@@HappyZavulon that’s most efforts for sustainability

@marcogenovesi8570

Жыл бұрын

Surprise surprise a "sustainable" product is in fact a straight scam

@blueprint7

Жыл бұрын

@@OccupiedMuffins yeah that's why I pollute as much as possible

@mitas3484

Жыл бұрын

Just saw they soak this in epoxy to make it into a desk, this will literally never biodegrade.

The most sustainable desk is the one you already have. The second-most sustainable desk is the one you buy used. And the one thing that concerns me about the sustainability of this desk is its durability (namely that Colton was able to scratch it so easily). If you have to replace it in a couple years, it's not sustainable. Finally, other people mentioned this, but recycling a biodegradable item into a non-biodegradable product doesn't seem like the best idea. Making things out of recycled milk cartons or recycled plastic bags would be better.

@BeetleBuns

Жыл бұрын

yup, bamboo is MUCH softer than maple, so they're flat-out lying right there lmao

@slendydie1267

Жыл бұрын

Mine has a glass top and I scratched it the 2nd day I used it. It was because of the broken screen protector on my phone. Can't say I care tho it's not on a visible place and it doesnt affect the functionality of the standing desk so whatever(its about a 10cm long scratch tho 😂)

@alidan

Жыл бұрын

surface scrathes arent something you replace a desk for, its something you learn how to epoxy coat for, a really thin uv resin epoxy would resurface this in maybe an hour of time.

@CompletelyNormal

Жыл бұрын

@@alidan Of course you don't, but that doesn't mean it isn't a bad sign.

@MrMega200

Жыл бұрын

Even maple can scratch if you don't take care. Just look at any vintage furniture. They are going to have scratches and gouges. All this means is they didn't vacuum the floor before breaking it out of the box and assembly.

Nothing says sustainable like taking something that could normally biodegrade and soaking it in epoxy! INCREDIBLE!

@MrMega200

Жыл бұрын

Normally biodegrade and release gases into the environment* Maybe you should read about it before assuming. This desktop material is indefinitely reusable and can be re-coated with poly. At the end of the day the chopsticks are being reused instead of single use items and being dumped at the landfill. You certainly don't think about your water table when you throw shit out, don't you?

@dang6102

Жыл бұрын

While some chopsticks are just heat and pressure treated, some are also chemically treated to prevent things like mold; they are no longer biodegradable. The real question is how well they sourced these chopsticks for recycling. If the cost outweighs the benefit, then it’s a net loss and is pointless greenwashing. The epoxy is also concerning, might’ve been better to just turn them to sawdust and make something like an MDF wood.

@Piggynom

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMega200 I'm sure all the associated spent fuel and chemical processing produces much less "gases" than letting wood decompose. Much more natural too!

Sustainability is not worth $1000 more then what you can make at home like Linus said.

@kikistrumm3r

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure a big part of that is Vancouver labor & property costs. Not saying it justifies it, just not all sustainability but also shopping local

@kaerakh4267

Жыл бұрын

A $1000 "I want to look like I care" tax.

@spitperson69

Жыл бұрын

I mean it might be if it were actually sustainable - but they're still using cheap, mass produced electronic parts which I'm certain are no more environmentally friendly than the ones linus pointed out. There's also the chemicals in the glues to hold the chop sticks together, the energy used to mill and shape the slabs, the laser engraving, the plastic that contained all the screws. And unless they're putting the work into maximizing the use of rail and boat in their shipping lines, the transportation costs to the environment are also the same. This just looks like greenwashing at best and squeezing an obscene amount of extra cash out of well intentioned buyers at worst. The most environmentally friendly choices are always going to be to use/modify what you have, buy secondhand, or buy something produced locally.

@Setphmaster

Жыл бұрын

I am wondering is it really more sustainable than for ex a bamboo desk all those chopsticks must be cleaned dried cut glued together cut again sanded maybe a few more steps but all that energy for creating a desk I'm not sure is really ecological. After all it would be more ecological to use reusable chopsticks

@slowazzd2165

Жыл бұрын

​@@kaerakh4267 what have you done in your life to help anything lmao

I think I'll take a second hand desk for a fraction of the cost, twice the environmental benefit, and WAY more surface area.

@fynkozari9271

Жыл бұрын

The whole point of adjustable height is so that people can stop sitting down all the time.

@QuickQuips

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely the way to go. Same thing with office chairs.

@inoob26

Жыл бұрын

​@@fynkozari9271 what does this have anything to do with the original comment

@512TheWolf512

Жыл бұрын

@@fynkozari9271 you can do that with an old tabletop, too. No need to pay out the wazoo.

@fynkozari9271

Жыл бұрын

@@512TheWolf512 the tabletop is expensive? I thought the motor is?

For $1500 I'll just buy from Autonomous for the stand alone legs and then buy a butcher block just like Linus said. You'll spend about $500 and then can use the extra $1000 to either save or spend on other upgrades/accessories

@StolenJoker84

Жыл бұрын

Put that extra $1000 towards the battle station that will be on the desk.

@ionx34

Жыл бұрын

@@StolenJoker84 ya exactly if you don't have one already

@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis

Жыл бұрын

500$ for desk that way too much Cheaper options for like $80 Involves Home depot/lowes Unless u want those fancy legs

@StolenJoker84

Жыл бұрын

@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis The adjustable legs are useful. Not only do I have a “sit/stand” desk at home, but my church has one for the sound booth. It’s nice to be able to move the desk up and down as needed.

@georgejones5019

Жыл бұрын

The $1000 could go to a GPU or nice monitor.

So nice of Linus to occasionally contract Colton for video work to make it seem like he’s still hired in the company

Vivo Desk Legs were 120 off Woot. My desktop is a damaged 7' butcher block countertop I got for under $100. Love the sentiment behind this desk but that's a lot more than I would ever spend on something off the shelf/not custom made.

@StolenJoker84

Жыл бұрын

It is a very expensive desk. I agree. I have a nice sit-stand desk that I acquired from work when they were throwing away a bunch of their old office furniture.

@doc8125

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.... Especially when a desk isn't something that gets thrown out and replaced very often.... Both the desks I've owned throughout my years have been second hand ones I got for free (and they were pretty nice desks even) that have lasted well over 10 years each. I don't think it makes as much sense to focus on "everything being recycled" on something that is so infrequently replaced, especially not when it carries such a price premium

Tfw they are recycling bamboo which is one of the faster growing plants

@robertpuckett7412

Жыл бұрын

And already easily biodegradable...

@toseltreps1101

Жыл бұрын

yeah that's kinda dumb tbh.

@Gobeman

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna assume they can put "Look we recycled stuff" ontop of the box like saying a chicken is all organic n such. That and Bamboo on it's own is really getting popular in some types of furniture so was probably an easy seque to saying "Look its bamboo"

@MarioGoatse

Жыл бұрын

They have 1500 companies sending them chopsticks in trucks which would easily offset any “sustainability”. Let alone the energy it takes to compress and glue together, then shape into a table, and now it’s filled with resin that will leach micro plastics into the environment, instead of just using wood from a sustainable farming operation. Just another green scam.

@RogueCannon.

Жыл бұрын

I think the main issue with bamboo is the hollow centre which might help with their claims but idk

They keep letting Colton unbox the Colton sized stuff 😂

@ForzaE2

Жыл бұрын

OOOHHH :D

Growing bamboo may be faster and even greener since you are growing more plants..😅

The cardboard box is stronger than Colton in breaking the chopsticks. 😂

I would always use a cloth when setting up a high end desk. Any desk can get scratched that way.. especially high end ones.

@Xathroz

Жыл бұрын

Or the cardboard box lid that came with it and is exactly the size you need

@ninjal7588

Жыл бұрын

Especially if do it in a house where people don't take off their shoes... Obviously there will be sand on the floor from either shoes or pets, "getting scratches from the floor" is unlikely, a small piece of rock is a lot harder than wood not to mention the pressure is on a small area..

@audhen1

Жыл бұрын

always when building furniture

07:03 Love how he reads "press the down button" but presses the up button instead ^^

They use acrylic resin for this, which on it's own is recyclable but I'm not sure how easily that can be done when it is suspended in wood or bamboo fiber (which, as others have pointed out, is biodegradable on its own). Seems like this company is taking something recyclable, putting something else recyclable into it, and making something that will never leave a landfill. Cool.

@noelpasion5921

Жыл бұрын

I used to work with the company they ordered a whole container of chopsticks and they have it labeled 30% recycled 70% new when building the tables since a 100% recycled chopsticks will result a bad table. It is not harder than maple, table is prone to warping and splinters. They only use osmo which is oil easily scratch.

We've recycled over 90 million chopsticks and we made a total of 16 desks pretty amazing huh

@justsomeguy5470

Жыл бұрын

If you do the math, it's roughly 9500 tables total. IF they are the same size

I believe I saw this company on Business Insider („How it’s made“). They take the chopsticks and then compress them together with epoxy resin. So essentially, they take something that is easily recyclable, does biodegrade and isn’t even that hard to get (bamboo grows pretty fast), and turn it into an expensive chunk of chemical goop. Which, surprise, doesn’t biodegrade anymore. It just doesn’t make sense. You could burn the chopsticks and use the coal for filters, or fertiliser, or you could put them into a biogas plant, compost them, there is a ton of methods for that that don’t depend on turning the chopsticks into a block of plastic.

It's weird to me that they're recycling wooden sticks that can easily biodegrade in nature. Does this really need to be recycled at all? We have plastic everywhere, use that stuff that will still be here in thousands of years!

@TheShazamProductions

Жыл бұрын

Was just thinking this, like the energy needed to collect, manufacture and then ship these out must be 10 fold the amount needed to just let them decompose in nature.

@someryebread

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this thing is just a gimmick pretending to be eco friendly.

@nihminus6612

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShazamProductions you realize that most of the cost is probably from manual labor and operating the machinery/upkeep right? the collection process is nowhere near as complicated as you think it would be, they just partner with restraunts etc and probably get the chopsticks by the truckload. plus "decomposing in nature" means literally jack when you take into account the fact that otherwise it just gets sent to a landfill and is incinerated. though, i do think this desk is MASSIVELY overpriced for what it is, and there is no getting around that. it's being sold at a premium price when being made out of literal garbage lmao. most i would pay for this is like $500-600 USD, $1300 is just a ripoff.

@SkyChu0

Жыл бұрын

Actually, you’re mistaken. The bottles may have physically fallen apart but doing a soil analysis would show the existence of a high concentration of micro plastics which is bad for pretty much all forms of life “on Earth” (including the eventual down-the-line consumption by humans). So while you weren’t able to find the intact bottles, the materials are still present (although likely downstream, being washed into the water table by the elements). The idea of biodegradation is that the materials break down into a useable form by/for nature which is not a property of plastics. Edit: My reply was meant to be aimed at the comment above by “Who Dis?”

@fish3977

Жыл бұрын

This is actually a good question and points at a big issue with discussing specifics of greenhouse gas emissions! The painful truth is that it is far more complicated than we like to think. Lets take a moment to think about what actually happens to the wood when its degrading naturally. A lot of it depends on the environment, e.g. what sort of bacteria and fungi there is to consume it and if it has access to oxygen, but the carbohydrates forming wood will be broken and in part be sealed in the forming mulch with a portion being released as different gasses. The gasses formed from rotting wood are in turn greenhouse gasses and why disturbing ground by tilling new fields or digging up peat may actually cause quite substantial emissions that are often unaccounted for. This also means that a case can be made that cutting down lumber and using it to build, hence sealing the carbon in the structure, instead of letting the trees fall or burn in their own is better for the environment if we don't care about biodiversity. This sort of product, however, is clearly overpriced and greenwash-y with the main actual defence being that they're not cutting more trees down

Colton volunteer work is heart warming

Recycling is one thing, but doesn't gathering all those chopsticks also add to the CO²? Do they use resin to harden the chopsticks? If yes which one...some resins are bad for the environment. Some are even made with crude oil. And for that price, it is just a novelty item.

@vicmac3513

Жыл бұрын

Most of the greenwash has only marketing value. The famous co2-collector uses MWs of electricity, China-manufactured paper filters and crude oil as a lubricant.

@SkonkBot

Жыл бұрын

And this is to recycle something made from bamboo, which is already an incredibly sustainable fast growing plant. I find it hard to imagine recycling it produces less waste/pollution etc than just growing more.

@vicmac3513

Жыл бұрын

@@SkonkBot I live in Scandinavia, which is known for forests and paper mills. The greenwashers now appraise 1-use cups, plates, forks etc. made from bamboo. Made in USA. Needs glue to stay intact. Yay, what an innovation!

@OmniUni

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. The amount of glue and resin to make that desk top sturdy is almost certainly worse for the environment than just using sustainably grown wood. The most sustainable desk top would probably be something like stone or metal, or even ceramic. Now I REALLY want a ceramic desk.

@jjOnceAgain

Жыл бұрын

​@Vic Mac Well, any sort of paper plate/cutlery is better than plastic or foam. They're a bit more expensive to make, and usually use wood scraps. Since it's made out of pulp, it doesn't really need glue, and as long as it's not coted it's incredibly biodegradable

You can get a Herman Miller sit/stand desk for that price...

I like the decorations in the room it was filmed in.

Bamboo has a lot of strength going the "long" way but is very easy to compress from the other direction, hence the scratching. This tabletop would be very easy to dent from even just a few inches in height for a sufficient weight, like a monitor slipping out of your fingers.

Colton is the Kirkland brand of Unbox Therapy. The desk looks cool.

@justsomeguy5470

Жыл бұрын

Costco makes some good stuff to be fair

I would say that you're much better off making your own desk with the legs off amazon like Linus said. If you're worried about sustainability and keeping things green you could do much better by just getting some recycled pallets, gluing the wood yourself, then cutting and sanding to your desired shape. Honestly would cost next to nothing and is honestly probably way more green then buying something like this.

@jakobvanklinken

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't recommend using palletwood as a easy option. Turning that into a flat slab is a very involved process - moreover I imagine most people don't have the cutting, planing and clamping tools required to do so. Palletwood sawdust is also really unhealthy, as the wood is often treated with pesticides and other chemicals.

Love to see Colton back

7:14 this is how I imagine colton sitting at a regular dinner table every day

Cork feet wouldn’t be the best for slip resistance but better than nothing also for abrasions.

Txs Linus, never knew the legs could be purchased separately, just bought a 2 meter 40mm oak butcher block worktop and 250lb rated legs for 500 squid 😊

Feet for the coasters - Recycled Cork Board

NGL i really like the idea of recycling chopsticks into desks that looks really cool

Great to see Colton again !

Nice, now i can smell the noodles

Cork is sustainable and could serve as feet for the coasters and wrist rest.

2 weeks into -Q2 and Linus is already ripping into Colton over Q2 numbers lol

I think I'll stick with my 60+ year old oak table. It will probably be around when my kids are grandparents.

I don't have a chopstick desk but i do have an ikea bamboo desk which i've enjoyed for a couple of years now so far.

Ohhhhh it’s so nice they let a kid host a video!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰

I bought a 6ft long wood counter top from home depot and a standing desk frame from Amazon. It cost me $250Cad for both and now I have a pretty big wood desk for pretty cheap.

Great hair style. Mine's the same😆

Colton didn't get fired in this video, he got roasted by his boss.

I think the keyboard wrist rest is the best part of it all

I really agree with linus, 300 for legs and 100 for a top is a vastly better deal and you can customize it.

Let's recycle these chopsticks but use single use plastic on hold all the hardware. Nice.

I got a Varidesk which is basically this same design but.. not crap. Absolutely love it, but I didn't know you could get the legs separate and DIY one like Linus suggested. That might be a good idea.

Watching Colton put furniture together is worse than the assembly directions 😂

We need more Colton

Can someone explain to me what is the reason behind "recycling" already biodegradable and environmentally safe material? Chopsticks are usually either wood or bamboo. And they are covered in a bunch of glue or resin (is the glue or resin they used also environmentally safe?) and made into a desk top... I get why people would make tables out of recycled plastics, recycled cellulose, recycled metal even. This I don't get

@toseltreps1101

Жыл бұрын

at this point just use MDF or laminated wood. that's probably even more sustainable and cheaper

Aww, you gave it the hug of death.

Next video, colton mounts a vesa mount on the back of a TV on the floor and scratches the screen lol.

I was actually wondering if you guys have a solid opinion on standing desks? Which are decent stable ones and which ones need to be avoided?

just like that they created title out of thin air

looks like flexispot's desk frame (flexispot is just a subsidary of Loctek who seems to actually make these), just a neat wooden top

Linus roasting coltan half way though was great!

COLTON BEEN A MINUTE GREAT TO SEE YOU REHIRED! LOL

Nice desk but I'm not really sure how much sense it makes. As for the sliding coasters and wrist rest why didn't they put some cork on the bottom? It's cheap, natural, and works well for that purpose.

I guess Linus trolling Colton isn’t limited to just Colton getting fired constantly.

He’s back!🎉

It's exactly the same components as my desk from jarvis which was around 650 bucks with their biggest table top on sale

Even cork can be sustainable and would be a way to put a bottom on the accessories?

I guess there's two ways of looking at something like this. A) You're paying a premium for a sustainable material that's also unique. B) A company is taking literal garbage they get for free and effectively selling chopstick particle board at a price point comparable to solid hardwood tabletops that look significantly nicer.

Having 2 screws leftover and not knowing where they go despite following the directions is a hallmark of self-assembly😆

Chopstick plywood is really cool

You could say he is doing... Desk job!

Wild idea, what about using something that is not for a single use? For example made from metal.

That Linus drive-by was fire!

Linus forgot the biggest banger! "Colton yer Fired!"

This thing is insanely expensive. Most electric height adjustable desks of this size retail for around $700. This is double the price. Seems questionable if the manufacturing of that table top is overall a net positive for the environment too. It does look cool though. The bad instructions and the fact that it so easily overheated isn't good either. I have an Uplift desk. Their comparable product is around $800. Great desks, easy instructions, don't overheat, and can lift 355 lbs instead of 165.

I’ll just support my favorite pho place for lunch and dinner for the next few years and then fabricate my own top.

Looks like it is the same legs and controls as MotionGrey's desk. They've just added their top to it. I bought my MotionGrey desk for about $500 CAD on sale.

Taking into account all necessary work and glue, is it really sustainable?

@BeetleBuns

Жыл бұрын

it is not. This is greenwashing at its finest...

Clint from Corridor would love this...

That frame looks identical to my uplift frame. If it's anything like it, that things a tank

8:41 How? Where do you get table tops from?

I personally went with the fully stand desk because of how stable the legs are. I hate the cheaper stand desks that shake around when you barely tap them.

I like the color of the desk countertop in the background where the pc is, please provide info where to find it. Thank keep up the good work.

The great thing about the Chopstick desk, if you lick it, you'll get the best of Asian food, from lemon chicken to beef and black bean, 👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘Cheers from Melbourne Australia

9:21 Well, that is indeed the title of this video.

That Vivo frame was single motor vs dual motor. Doubles the price, but still that desk is not cheap for what it is

I cant be the only one that saw where that control box slid into before it was revealed

most chopsticks are made out of bamboo because it's cheap and grows like crazy. You could make a desk out of bamboo and just throw the chopsticks in a forest as fertilizer for $600. They should make a desk out of microplastic for a challenge

If it carries a massive premium over a comparable product how is it sustainable? By definition something sustainable must be practical/affordable compared to alternatives.

Nothing to not make things slide around, you have to add that yourself, so they can say they made it very sustainable.

Cool !

It's a good thing to point out that sustainable doesn't neceassarily mean eco-friendly.

The legs and control box belong to a different motorized desk brand. If it’s a new partnership it would make sense that the instructions aren’t optimized yet to the new legs and hud.

It's bamboo, literally grows fast as heck, and can be composted. Can the desk be composted?

OMG It's a Colton!

I'm surprised they didn't go for something like recycled cork for the underside of the wrist rest & coasters....

Chopsticks: when the axe gets caught in the wood?

They should make a Canadian desk from hockey sticks.

@andrewmorris483

Жыл бұрын

L shaped

If recycling chopsticks costs $1000 maybe we should use less disposable chopsticks, they're not really recyclable at that point

4:59 * Canadian intensifies *

I could see where the box mounted I. The video almost a full minute before you figured it out .

Throw the chopsticks in the woods for nature and use fresh trees for the desk.

I'm glad to see Colton. I thought he was fired. Again.

I wonder if all the Chop"Value" staff and management got together in the boardroom to watch this vid and read the comments.

Water cooled standing desk? When?

Is that base not just flexispot anyways?