I Visited the MOST UNDERRATED Football Fans In Germany

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I travelled to Berlin to watch the most underrated fooball fans for the DFB Pokal quarter final where it was Hertha BSC vs 1. FC Kaiserslautern.
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highlights of my experience between hertha kaiserslautern 1-3 in the dfb pokal.
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  • @GroundhopperFC
    @GroundhopperFC4 ай бұрын

    2.000 Likes and I will go to the Semi-finals in the DFB Pokal!!!

  • @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia

    @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia

    4 ай бұрын

    Perhaps the final, to?

  • @_ali24k_

    @_ali24k_

    4 ай бұрын

    You should watch SAARBRÜCKEN 🔵⚫️

  • @odriano7611

    @odriano7611

    4 ай бұрын

    Hope Semi - Finals in K‘lautern! 👹

  • @dummkopphannes

    @dummkopphannes

    4 ай бұрын

    We got the 2000 so you can come to our Betze. I was in the away section in Berlin. It was amazing❤

  • @Aug08505

    @Aug08505

    4 ай бұрын

    Go to Fortuna Düsseldorf trust

  • @neovaze1035
    @neovaze10354 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget Kaiserslautern is friends with Stuttgart who also have ksc as their biggest rival

  • @Divran22

    @Divran22

    4 ай бұрын

    i know that Lautern is firends with 1860 but with Stuttgart? that would be new to me

  • @sebarb1276

    @sebarb1276

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Divran22 they have over 20 Years the friendship with Stuttgart👆🏼

  • @dragstripper
    @dragstripper4 ай бұрын

    By the way, two devision 2 teams draw 74000+ spectators...

  • @stefan1924

    @stefan1924

    4 ай бұрын

    and then on the next Bundesliga day you can go watch Wolfsburg vs Hoffenheim

  • @yowifeinmydm1609
    @yowifeinmydm16094 ай бұрын

    Karlsruhes biggest enemy is VFB Stuttgart which happen to be in a Friendship with Kaiserslautern. Plus Baden and Pfalz are neighbouring states.

  • @leonb1474

    @leonb1474

    4 ай бұрын

    VfB*

  • @Lucas-gh1xe
    @Lucas-gh1xe4 ай бұрын

    how tf is this already ready for upload

  • @Harv3yQuinn

    @Harv3yQuinn

    4 ай бұрын

    this man wasted no time at all :DD

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Everything for thisss community letsgoooo

  • @silviaterschure4695

    @silviaterschure4695

    4 ай бұрын

    Ben jij nederlands

  • @DeryaRahmani

    @DeryaRahmani

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@GroundhopperFC Creazy 😂😂

  • @boogyfan5673
    @boogyfan56734 ай бұрын

    WE NEED YOU BACK AT THE BETZE, Thanks for you amazing and honest videos. You are simply the best in the scene

  • @mice8643
    @mice86434 ай бұрын

    Die fans von Kaiserslautern sind unglaublich 👍

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    So underrated.. unreal

  • @lautern1991

    @lautern1991

    4 ай бұрын

    In which country we are underrated?

  • @dragstripper

    @dragstripper

    4 ай бұрын

    Was in the stadium... Fck Fans been there in droves.. There were much more then 8000...zhanks for the great video.

  • @SW-sd2wh

    @SW-sd2wh

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@dragstripper I would guess there were like 12-15k fans from Kaiserslautern. After the match you could see those red jerseys all over the stadium after the match. And this is happening on a wednesday night, where you normally have to take two days of for the match.

  • @minagawaOUT

    @minagawaOUT

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@SW-sd2wh12k is right

  • @vincenzopacifico
    @vincenzopacifico4 ай бұрын

    the myth of LAUTRE is allive. when they play at home the semi, they can beat anybody

  • @tentieman4241

    @tentieman4241

    4 ай бұрын

    Not with the team which played yesterday.

  • @MDerJunge

    @MDerJunge

    4 ай бұрын

    i know the myth of Pacfic Media Group

  • @fck1798

    @fck1798

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MDerJunge​​⁠I know the myth of the Plexiglas in Alte Försterei 😂

  • @randomfacts-ydntk
    @randomfacts-ydntk4 ай бұрын

    The biggest rival of Kaiserslautern ist actual Waldhof Mannheim. The begging rival of Karlsruhe is VfB Stuttgart. But Kaiserslautern and VfB Stuttgart has a very big friendship. So there is the circle closing😂

  • @benekrieger1653
    @benekrieger16534 ай бұрын

    Just to give you some context: Hertha's president, Kay Bernstein recently passed away all of a sudden at the age of 43 years. He loved the club like nobody else and had a very unique story to himself. He was one of the founding fathers of Harlekins Berlin, Hetha's biggest ultra group and would be the 'capo' (the guy striking up the songs) of the Ostkurve for many years. He then became the club's president out of a desire and need to do things differently after years of mismanagemnt and faulty investements. His dream was for the club to come together again, to have a closer bond between the fans and the club again, to bring up more players from Hertha's own academy. This unfinished 'Berliner Weg' (the Berlin way) is his legacy which everyone is now determined to reach more than ever. So after all, the club is more united than it has ever been, but the circumstances to it could hardly be more tragic. Yesterday's choreography was to comemorate him. Rest in peace, Kay Bernstein. Greetings from Karlsruhe. Hertha & der KSC 💙🤍 Gute Freunde kann niemand trennen!

  • @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    4 ай бұрын

    Das hast du sehr respect voll geschrieben. Hätte Herta gegen ein andern team gespielt, hätte ich die daumen für den BSC gedrückt. So, war es mir aber lieber. Nur der FCKaiserslautern.

  • @benekrieger1653

    @benekrieger1653

    4 ай бұрын

    @@a.florschutzcamplin9011 in den Farben getrennt...

  • @fcfootballfan8005
    @fcfootballfan80054 ай бұрын

    Unbelievable atmosphere and great respect for both supporter groups...that's how it sould be. Thanks Groundhopper for showing this.

  • @Schwingeraufhinterkopf0711
    @Schwingeraufhinterkopf07114 ай бұрын

    Lautern und der VFB👹🤍❤️🐊

  • @KINGLU3105

    @KINGLU3105

    4 ай бұрын

    🔴⚪

  • @PyroGentelman

    @PyroGentelman

    4 ай бұрын

    hertha und der ksc

  • @tymokk

    @tymokk

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@PyroGentelman😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @PyroGentelman

    @PyroGentelman

    4 ай бұрын

    unsere freundschaft ist aus neutraler sicht 10 mal so gut@@tymokk

  • @oskibsc

    @oskibsc

    4 ай бұрын

    @@tymokk4:0

  • @SW-sd2wh
    @SW-sd2wh4 ай бұрын

    It's crazy. I just came home drunk to the hotel celebrating the victory and you already upload a video in such a great quality. How do you do that?!😂

  • @Seb_U_92
    @Seb_U_924 ай бұрын

    there were 10,000 lautrer. I just arrived at the hotel. ONLY THE FCK!!!!

  • @Mischa-yc7lw
    @Mischa-yc7lw4 ай бұрын

    German Football Fans all crazy. Thanks for this vidio from Belgium

  • @godlyxrobin
    @godlyxrobin4 ай бұрын

    Finaly your on a game from my team :D Very great video!!

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    That's the way we like it!👀🙏

  • @KERBVADDI
    @KERBVADDI4 ай бұрын

    Lautern Allez.Lautern Allez.Lautern Allez allez allez allez allez. 🔴⚪️👹⚪️🔴

  • @grafjoster6437
    @grafjoster64374 ай бұрын

    Nice video bro. I could feel the passion. Very happy as a Kaiserslautern fan. Was not expecting us to win😂 Credits to both crowds. On TV you barely heard the Hertha crowd during the game

  • @ewzinenhou9243
    @ewzinenhou92434 ай бұрын

    You're so quick 🔥

  • @Dex_Zuid
    @Dex_Zuid4 ай бұрын

    Germany has plenty team in 2. and 3. Bundesliga that even deserve European cup nights

  • @saintgoat8838
    @saintgoat88384 ай бұрын

    keep up the work. every vlog is amazing. love it that u also visit "smaller games" and not only games like el clasico and so on. if you want to experience the fans here in vienna i would give you one ticket for the derby on 25th february🤝

  • @marcoztak650
    @marcoztak6504 ай бұрын

    You're invited to visit the Betzenberg

  • @Mini_Groundhopper
    @Mini_Groundhopper4 ай бұрын

    My insparation to keep on going 😍 thank you so much!

  • @Sandwurm75
    @Sandwurm754 ай бұрын

    it were 10.000 and about 2000-3000 more who bought tickets in Berlin. but anyways, cool video!

  • @MusikJunkiefromK
    @MusikJunkiefromK4 ай бұрын

    I really respect that, how fast your doing this video.

  • @FANPRIMUS
    @FANPRIMUS4 ай бұрын

    WHAT A NICE VLOG!!! WOW!! BEST WISHES FANPRIMUS

  • @MORBI
    @MORBI4 ай бұрын

    Als du dad Video hochgeladen hast, war ich noch im Stadion am feiern😂😂

  • @sjoerdzeeland
    @sjoerdzeeland4 ай бұрын

    Both have an amazing fan base 👍🏻

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly 💪❤️

  • @77LUCKYNUMBER77
    @77LUCKYNUMBER774 ай бұрын

    the only thing you heard from min 5 until min 180: _Forza FCK,_ _rot-weiß-rot olé,_ _mein Leben hab ich Dir vermacht,_ _jeden Tag und jede Nacht_

  • @1893hattorihanzo
    @1893hattorihanzo4 ай бұрын

    hey, rote teufel, glückwunsch aus stuttgart, auf wiedersehen in berlin

  • @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    4 ай бұрын

    Oder, sogar früher....halb, vielleicht??? 🤞🤞👍👍

  • @1893hattorihanzo

    @1893hattorihanzo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@a.florschutzcamplin9011 muss nicht sein

  • @saigonmidnightradio5589
    @saigonmidnightradio55894 ай бұрын

    Dude seriously how? Your insane bro

  • @orhanbicer8135
    @orhanbicer81354 ай бұрын

    damnn bro we sat next to next, nice vlog

  • @alardvanKaam
    @alardvanKaam4 ай бұрын

    The king is really back

  • @robin01196
    @robin011964 ай бұрын

    I was on the FCK away stand and the atmosphere was phenomenal

  • @jaydensmit
    @jaydensmit4 ай бұрын

    Yessir another video❤❤

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s what we dooo!!! Stay tuned for more 👀🙏

  • @jxstxshrn
    @jxstxshrn4 ай бұрын

    Mit stolzem Blick auf den FCK aus Cannstatt🤍❤️

  • @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    4 ай бұрын

    Danke😂😂❤️🤍❤️🤍

  • @djc-mix1477
    @djc-mix14774 ай бұрын

    top video!!!

  • @Beometas
    @Beometas4 ай бұрын

    Nice Video

  • @zierikzeetjes4187
    @zierikzeetjes41874 ай бұрын

    How can someone bring so many luck to FC Kaiserslautern lol🤣.. They should hire you

  • @tscheksmalaa7535
    @tscheksmalaa75354 ай бұрын

    way more than 8000

  • @szymoniastypro1574
    @szymoniastypro15744 ай бұрын

    Go to the Górnik Zabrze match again. It was very nice to watch. 👍

  • @vlogimblock
    @vlogimblock4 ай бұрын

    bro wie schnell bist du?

  • @od7580
    @od75804 ай бұрын

    I went to Hertha - HSV last weekend, atmosphere was cool too! Hertha fans are so underrated

  • @entedodo9859
    @entedodo98594 ай бұрын

    *15.000 Kaiserslautern Fans

  • @vincenzopacifico

    @vincenzopacifico

    4 ай бұрын

  • @KelevraSenpai

    @KelevraSenpai

    4 ай бұрын

    *150.000 mit 10.000 Kaputten aus Elversberg

  • @txice9382

    @txice9382

    4 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @neovaze1035

    @neovaze1035

    4 ай бұрын

    @@KelevraSenpaiund 400k vollmaschinek aus stuttgsrt

  • @fck1798

    @fck1798

    4 ай бұрын

    @@KelevraSenpaibist jetzt lustig Kelevra?

  • @simonkohns
    @simonkohns4 ай бұрын

    There was nearly 15 k Lautern Fans

  • @pascall4799
    @pascall47994 ай бұрын

    Wow what a game

  • @gerwin4550
    @gerwin45504 ай бұрын

    nice video

  • @damian_21pl
    @damian_21pl4 ай бұрын

    Go at the end of February to the Frankenderby!

  • @martyfifa
    @martyfifa4 ай бұрын

    Halbfinaaaaleeee 😍

  • @MrJulian2511
    @MrJulian25114 ай бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @GermanChairman
    @GermanChairmanАй бұрын

    Literally nobody in Germany underestimates the Fans of Kaiserslautern. Nobody wants to come up to our mountain, like Uli Hoeneß once said, we go wild like animals in the zoo

  • @jaccovollebregt2218
    @jaccovollebregt22184 ай бұрын

    Please visit the klassieker on 7 april

  • @robdogj
    @robdogj4 ай бұрын

    @GroundhopperFC bruh you were drinking beer at Olympiastadion? Crazy.....I could tell it was cold as hell. I would have only drank Glühwein or a Hot Cocoa 🥶

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Bruhh I needed a beer when I'm in germany haha... Hope you enjoyed watching the video🙏

  • @robdogj

    @robdogj

    4 ай бұрын

    @GroundhopperFC awesone video. Also my lady liked the video. She is from Hessen. She wondered where you are from? She also held a job with Die DB. She thought it was a great service.

  • @bastianscherrer354
    @bastianscherrer3544 ай бұрын

    Nice Video! Thanks for producing so nicely and fast! What a nice performance from Kaiserslautern. Hopefully they will live up to their old glory! Maybe you can make a video about the Betzenberg one day! Its a small city with a huge heart for football and a long going history! One of the founding members of the Bundesliga!

  • @robbemaertens6421
    @robbemaertens64214 ай бұрын

    Cercle Brugge plays Club Brugge on the 18th of february. Probably the most underrated derby in Belgium. Club Brugge Fans will have pyro with them. Make sure to be there!

  • @sirtwiz
    @sirtwiz2 ай бұрын

    One positive thing about the Deutschebahn is it's not Amtrak xD

  • @KlausUngerer
    @KlausUngerer2 ай бұрын

    hertha fans are maybe the loudest crowd in any arena as the olympiastadion is so huge and wide that you really have to give 110% at any given moment. it's a good training. also, they never stop singing and cheering. they are berliners, see...

  • @Gelanek
    @Gelanek4 ай бұрын

    2:10 Czech Republic: Hold my Pivo 🍺

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Hahahah czech beers are also very very very good🥹🤝

  • @Mathias.V
    @Mathias.V4 ай бұрын

    Nice words why not a thirt time? Thanks. We are 1.fc Kaiserslautern, you are my club 🔴⚪🔴🔥🔥🔥👹

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Haha yessss seriously what I thought🤣. See you in the semis!!’ ✌🏻🏆

  • @prawo_szymona
    @prawo_szymona4 ай бұрын

    Visit Nurnberg, incredible fans are here

  • @birdysanjazz2585
    @birdysanjazz25854 ай бұрын

    Lautern ❤❤

  • @aidygooner
    @aidygooner4 ай бұрын

    It's crazy how Berlin do not have a super club like London, Madrid, Amsterdam, Paris etc. 😮

  • @vasvo3201
    @vasvo32014 ай бұрын

    FCK is strong

  • @FSO8210
    @FSO82104 ай бұрын

    Lautre🔴⚪️🔴👹

  • @ageongki6744
    @ageongki67444 ай бұрын

    Ache had a chance in the first half and didn‘t score. Then he shows the chance of Ritter where he puts it just a little to high, yet „its their third chance and they score“….

  • @ridelove13
    @ridelove134 ай бұрын

    Still on the way Home (in berlin)

  • @herrrizzo

    @herrrizzo

    4 ай бұрын

    Komm gut an

  • @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia
    @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia4 ай бұрын

    Even though HSV got knocked out, I got to see hertha ans St. Pauli get knocked out, too

  • @liwan9767
    @liwan97674 ай бұрын

    I gave you my thumb up. Maybe it will help you to have a visit at our Betzenberg next time. To see our semi final match against Duesseldorf. 😊

  • @conormarcgregor9809
    @conormarcgregor98094 ай бұрын

    Lautern ist der geilste Club der Welt!👹👹👹👹❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @FCKFanfursLeben
    @FCKFanfursLeben4 ай бұрын

    10000 Lautrer

  • @louleo_yt
    @louleo_yt4 ай бұрын

    Go to KV Oostende - Royal Antwerp FC in the croky cup

  • @support4583
    @support45834 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of Dynamo Dresden back a few years ago made a Record with 35.000 away fans in berlin also in the dfb Cup

  • @Sandwurm75

    @Sandwurm75

    4 ай бұрын

    Dresden Berlin - 150 km / Kaiserslautern - Berlin - 750km

  • @support4583

    @support4583

    4 ай бұрын

    It was first round of the dfb cup Here it was the quarter final@@Sandwurm75

  • @jimmyfck
    @jimmyfck4 ай бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥🔥👹👹👹👹

  • @letsshorts3176
    @letsshorts31764 ай бұрын

    10000

  • @theHNS7
    @theHNS74 ай бұрын

    come to Betzenberg and feel the Support when Lautre play at home. By the Way, Betzenberg is also a little bit louder than the Olympiastadion in Berlin

  • @GroundhopperFC

    @GroundhopperFC

    4 ай бұрын

    Been there twice, you should see the video as prove 😬😉

  • @0711_fxlix
    @0711_fxlix4 ай бұрын

    The biggest enemy of Karlsruhe is Stuttgart and Stuttgart and Kaiserslautern have a friendship too

  • @manamanamanamana1020
    @manamanamanamana10204 ай бұрын

    KL and S against Hertha & KSC

  • @lucabaehr99
    @lucabaehr99Ай бұрын

    Kaiserslautern olé ❤

  • @Ubar-bv1be
    @Ubar-bv1be4 ай бұрын

    150000

  • @marekkopecky891
    @marekkopecky8914 ай бұрын

    Best czech bier🇨🇿

  • @Mr187Haze
    @Mr187Haze4 ай бұрын

    It was 12000...

  • @bvp1165
    @bvp11654 ай бұрын

    FCK

  • @derpyromane7778
    @derpyromane77784 ай бұрын

    5:45 This flag is just embarrassing 😂👹🔴⚪🔴

  • @mustermann839
    @mustermann8394 ай бұрын

    HaHoHe Hertha BSC

  • @Tarek-fc7go
    @Tarek-fc7go4 ай бұрын

    My Club ,my love, my city HA HO HE HERTHA BSC Great Video We lose football is hard weiter gehts Kopf nach oben

  • @vollihd1311
    @vollihd13114 ай бұрын

    Come to 1. FC Union Berlin

  • @affalterbach136
    @affalterbach1364 ай бұрын

    Do u Go to Leverkusen vs. VfB?

  • @tylersiuuu
    @tylersiuuu2 ай бұрын

    Ha hi he hertha bsc

  • @1893hattorihanzo
    @1893hattorihanzo4 ай бұрын

    hi ha ho hertha is KO

  • @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    @a.florschutzcamplin9011

    4 ай бұрын

    K. O.

  • @1893hattorihanzo

    @1893hattorihanzo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@a.florschutzcamplin9011 oho, soll das n anfall von pädagogik sein ?

  • @Philip-zk1og
    @Philip-zk1og4 ай бұрын

    *12.000

  • @sasboe3602
    @sasboe36024 ай бұрын

    Of course Hertha lost. Benji was sick and couldnt show up. Without Benji, Hertha is nothing.😅

  • @michaelmeier9655
    @michaelmeier96554 ай бұрын

    The biggest rival for Karlsruhe is not Kaiserslautern, it is VfB Stuttgart. Both cities are in the same federal state Baden-Württemberg. And this federal state consists of the regions of Baden and Württemberg. Karlsruhe comes from Baden and Stuttgart from Württemberg. And these two clubs don't like each other at all. Karlsruhe and Stuttgart are arch enemies for life. By the way, I'm a fan of Kaiserslautern and our arch-enemy number 1 is SV Waldhof Mannheim (League 3). After that comes Karlsruhe and then Frankfurt and then Saarbrücken and Mainz. That would be the right order ^^ And we ( Kaiserslautern ) also have fanfriendship with VfB Stuttgart. Funny hmm? lol

  • @hamdi9022

    @hamdi9022

    4 ай бұрын

    Waldhof sure, but for the majority of FCK fans I dont think that Karlsruhe is next on the list. Maybe for the people from the area next to Karslruhe (Südpfalz), but i would say Saarbrücken gets the 2nd place. After that maybe Frankfurt or Karlsruhe. But i really think it depends on which part of the FCK area you are from. Halbfinale!

  • @dennismohr495

    @dennismohr495

    4 ай бұрын

    That's not a official friendship with Stuttgart, there are a few groups which sympathize each other, but yeah it's starting to grow a bit more. The rest is correct 😉

  • @dennismohr495

    @dennismohr495

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@hamdi9022my words.. the area between Kaiserslautern and Karlsruhe - the Südpfalz is a large area and many of the people there work in Karlsruhe. I also think Mannheim is Lauterns biggest rival and Stuttgart is Karlsruhes biggest rival. Mannheim and Saarbrücken never played higher then the second Bundesliga over the 90s and 2000s where Lautern and Karlsruhe where more successful and even playing international, so that's also a reason why this rivalry was getting bigger.

  • @twotaptonio7671
    @twotaptonio76714 ай бұрын

    It is just place 10, you are being a bit dramatic, because in the 2. Bundesliga the 10 is pretty close to the relegation place

  • @sebasgames2845
    @sebasgames28454 ай бұрын

    Ga naar de Gelderse derby vitesse-NEC op 7 april. Dit is echt een strijd om wie de nummer van 1 van de regio is. En het zeker de grootste derby van Nederland. En misschien wel de laaste keer in lange tijd omdat vitesse waarschijnlijk gaat degraderen

  • @U.N.V.S.U
    @U.N.V.S.UАй бұрын

    Hertha und der KSC

  • @ypyngy5970
    @ypyngy59704 ай бұрын

    8000 Ultras :). I guess they´re just 300. The rest are normal fans

  • @Sandwurm75

    @Sandwurm75

    4 ай бұрын

    not really. we got many more but not 8000 Ultras, thats true

  • @Wilde_gilano
    @Wilde_gilano4 ай бұрын

    Go to Fortuna Düsseldorf semi final of dfb pokal Danke

  • @Nici2705
    @Nici27054 ай бұрын

    Come to Alte Försterei!

  • @TonisKollewe-ni1pj
    @TonisKollewe-ni1pj3 ай бұрын

    saarbrücken holt pokal

  • @MaxWalterBlog
    @MaxWalterBlog4 ай бұрын

    And next year, they'll be playing in the 3rd Bundesliga👍🏼

  • @FSO8210

    @FSO8210

    4 ай бұрын

    Es gibt noch ein paar Spiele gellfüßler

  • @uwewe8002

    @uwewe8002

    4 ай бұрын

    Und wenn? Dann machen wir eben Party in der 3. Liga 🎉

  • @fck1798

    @fck1798

    4 ай бұрын

    Bass mo uff dass ihr net absteigt

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