I’ve never seen anything like this before… - eero Max 7

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WiFi 7 is HERE, and though there aren't many devices that support it, those that do are promised crazy speeds and more reliability. We got our hands on the new eero Max 7 routers, and Linus is here to see if our wifi future is bright or if subscription features could ruin everything.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 WiFi 7 could be big
1:45 What was in the box?
2:24 Ports and a hot take(?)
3:14 Initial setup and a shot at Apple
4:02 Sponsor - PowerColor
4:38 Finishing setup
5:13 The eero Plus subscription...
7:10 Configuring the network
7:54 eero Plus breaks Linus
9:26 Speed testing on multiple devices
10:47 Outro

Пікірлер: 911

  • @Deses
    @Deses4 ай бұрын

    A router from Amazon with a subscription and an app... I don't want that anywhere close to me.

  • @the_undead

    @the_undead

    4 ай бұрын

    The subscription doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as the obvious frustration line is is having just trying to demo this product. I might not agree with the subscription but the failure to make it work tells me everything I need to know

  • @ololh4xx

    @ololh4xx

    4 ай бұрын

    i got one of the older models (v5) and i gotta say : noone needs to use the subscription, its basically useless anyway. The routers / APs themselves : probably the most stable, reliable, speedy devices i used in the past 20 years. You need pro-hardware if you want to compare them to anything, all other consumer stuff cannot compete. These are facts.

  • @RandarTheBarbarian

    @RandarTheBarbarian

    4 ай бұрын

    I've been installing eero products for a while now because amazon made them super friendly (note: backend controllable) for their ISP customers. I absolutely hate them, but it comes down more to the way we have implemented them than anything else. They're forced on all new customers, so we're still using modem router combo units, disabling the router, then sending the lowest end eero to every customer, which is in some cases slower than the router built in to the modems. Then actually setting them up either A) forces the customer to have internet to set up their internet, or B) makes me set it up for them with that aforementioned backend access that I may or may not actually be able to get in to (because sometimes I don't have functional cellular service in some of the towns I have to work in, or my login info has expired). Nothing was wrong with being able to log in with a default name and password for service setup, nothing was wrong with using the built in router for basic service especially in small homes or apartments, but instead I'm having to put eeros in the houses of elderly folks that still haven't even considered owning a smartphone.

  • @pilsplease7561

    @pilsplease7561

    4 ай бұрын

    I replaced my entire network with eero routers

  • @PAPO1990

    @PAPO1990

    4 ай бұрын

    Eh, apps can be quite useful for setting up, and configuring things for the less advanced user, I'm quite happy just using the web interface myself though, even on my fancy ASUS AP's that seem to have some cool features in the app, that I never use, though partly because all my ROUTING is done by a PFsense box :P

  • @ChrisRT6
    @ChrisRT64 ай бұрын

    If companies want to add subscription services to everything the least they could do is make the subscriptions FUNCTION CORRECTLY.

  • @frankie123456ization

    @frankie123456ization

    4 ай бұрын

    They could also just not have them...

  • @mycelia_ow

    @mycelia_ow

    4 ай бұрын

    @@frankie123456ization I'd rather have them if it meant not paying 5x as much upfront

  • @shrub9677

    @shrub9677

    4 ай бұрын

    @@frankie123456ization 'if the companies want to'

  • @anth5189

    @anth5189

    4 ай бұрын

    If everyone is forced to do it they have no reason to make anything work properly.

  • @nitram1737

    @nitram1737

    4 ай бұрын

    @@anth5189 If they make it impossible to subscribe they dont get money from subscriptions...

  • @JohnAlzayat
    @JohnAlzayat4 ай бұрын

    Linus spent half the video trying to subscribe to their service, this man gave it his absolute best and eero said no.

  • @The_Keeper

    @The_Keeper

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe they should change their name to; Error.

  • @playgame38

    @playgame38

    4 ай бұрын

    Tried to give them money and they won’t take it

  • @SystemError514

    @SystemError514

    4 ай бұрын

    @@The_Keeper You called? :)

  • @jibcano1777

    @jibcano1777

    4 ай бұрын

    Plot twist they knew it was Linus and blocked him

  • @marksapollo

    @marksapollo

    4 ай бұрын

    Linus spent half the video ignoring the text shown to him as did most of his viewers. It clearly states check the verification email they send, like most fucking subscription services do.

  • @FHL-Devils
    @FHL-Devils4 ай бұрын

    It's a rare thing to see Linus get mad-mad, and not just stage-mad... and I'm all for it!

  • @swlak516

    @swlak516

    4 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Rickles
    @Rickles4 ай бұрын

    Would love to see the lab put wifi 7 through some testing. 3gb right next to the AP is nice but what if it's in the next room, will it still be an impressive jump?

  • @ccelik97

    @ccelik97

    4 ай бұрын

    You want the 6GHz stuff & Wi-Fi 7 mainly for lower latency connections that can actually replace ethernet cables for the consumers and even some prosumers. So, try not to have any concrete walls between your devices & access points. It's becoming more and more like "an access point per room if you want low latency + high speeds" at home and frankly, I'm down for it. Give it maybe about another year (yep, 24H2) and the energy efficiency of the more affordable "buy & go" consumer solutions will settle down OK as well.

  • @foldionepapyrus3441

    @foldionepapyrus3441

    4 ай бұрын

    That would be interesting, though odds are good the locations you know you want fast wireless is where you will fit your AP anyway even with the slower and longer range AP making that point somewhat less important. I'd be more interested in if it can keep up that sort of data rate against a background of other WiFi 7 traffic everywhere, the contestation for bandspace at least in the UK where houses are small and close together on average is quite noticeable at times.

  • @09matiastube

    @09matiastube

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ccelik97An access point in every room... Soo just using cable with extra and expensive steps?

  • @ccelik97

    @ccelik97

    4 ай бұрын

    @@09matiastube Yes, you got it. And that's why if you're fine with your wired setups there's no need to pay for the new shit only to make them wireless now xd.

  • @bubbledoubletrouble

    @bubbledoubletrouble

    4 ай бұрын

    @@09matiastube So what model ethernet dongle do you use with your phone and/or tablet?

  • @jamesmartland5505
    @jamesmartland55054 ай бұрын

    Just a note at 10:45 the U: and the D: are the incorrect way around on the in-screen annotations, for all devices Reads U:3117 Mbps | D: 2754 Mbps Should Read: D:3117 Mbps | D: 2754 Mbps

  • @sullychow4123
    @sullychow41234 ай бұрын

    If consumers would finally rebel against subscriptions then these companies wouldn't pull this crap.

  • @ian9outof10

    @ian9outof10

    4 ай бұрын

    100% - and I do, and get yelled at online for saying Google and Amazon's network products should be avoided.

  • @LoneWolf0648
    @LoneWolf06484 ай бұрын

    this is a hard pass just from the fact they have a subscription for features built into the device... then there is the price and probably 20 other issues you didnt have time to test

  • @Vednier

    @Vednier

    4 ай бұрын

    They not first Tp-Link now put subscription their routers for features they used to have for free build in (they still build-in but need subscription for unlock). And this is true for NOT cheap models too.

  • @IngwiePhoenix

    @IngwiePhoenix

    4 ай бұрын

    If you're having sub problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problem but a sub ain't one.

  • @Vednier

    @Vednier

    4 ай бұрын

    @@IngwiePhoenixLets watch at you once you need to purchase subscription to use your toilet. Sounds like some dirty business.

  • @IngwiePhoenix

    @IngwiePhoenix

    4 ай бұрын

    @@VednierAt the current rate, I wouldn't be surprised at this. Welp, guess I would be switching professions from software dev to plumbing, lol.

  • @Vednier

    @Vednier

    4 ай бұрын

    @@IngwiePhoenixThere is video made by Adult Swim almost ten years ago, called Smart pipe. Its about toilet pipe collecting health info from poop about peoples for ads and stuff. It was kinda "funny" back then (for joke stretched too long). Somehow its not funny anymore. I will not be surprised to see such thing in 3-5 years for real.

  • @status_elitegaming9523
    @status_elitegaming95234 ай бұрын

    Not sure if it’s the same on this one, I have the WiFi 5 version but something as simple as shutting off the 2.4hz band or 5hz isn’t possible. I don’t like the idea of paying good money for a WiFi router for it not to have simple band control. I found myself getting stuck in 2.4 even though I was in the same room as the router. Something to look for before buying these devices

  • @darkkforest

    @darkkforest

    4 ай бұрын

    Fucking yes! Let me do what ever the fuck I want to do with the thing I paid for.

  • @ethernet01

    @ethernet01

    4 ай бұрын

    this is what is terrible about this enterprise pricing and subscriptions but ISP black box level features and management this pair shown costs more than many small-medium networks with enterprise equipment

  • @DanVibesTV

    @DanVibesTV

    4 ай бұрын

    i need the 2.4ghz band, because all my RGB stuff uses 2.4ghz WIFI only

  • @imgladnotu9527

    @imgladnotu9527

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@darkkforestlook towards openWRT for that lol, you cant trust proprietary firmware to do what theyre supposed to

  • @25566

    @25566

    4 ай бұрын

    That's worse than using the ISP router if you can't even do that, it's unnecessarily locked down

  • @SportBikeAnthony
    @SportBikeAnthony4 ай бұрын

    I'm just happy to see routers that have multiple multi-gig ports. That's the only reason I bought an one of tp-links new wifi 7 routers. Finally had a reason to upgrade from 1 gig to 2 gig GF service.

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire4 ай бұрын

    I have a couple of the Eero Pro 6s, and they do work right out of the box pretty well (lol, though I did NOT sign up for the service; i'm sure i would have been the same level of frustrated as LS had I done so). I've had the two Pro 6 units for a couple years now, and they really (knock wood) have been outstanding. To be clear, these are not for tinkerers. This is for the set-it-and-forget-it, don't-have-time-to-mess-with-them crowd. Nonetheless, they do receive frequent software updates, and I can't remember the last time I've needed to restart the network due to some issue with the mesh units. Who knows how reliable these 7s are (the 6 Pros are much, much smaller), but based on Amazon's track record of reliability with these things (unless I just got lucky), I think if you need or really, really want to early adopt wifi 7, they would be a pretty safe buy.

  • @BansheeBunny
    @BansheeBunny4 ай бұрын

    2:24 You are correct about 1Gb networking, being enough for most consumers. You will want more LAN bandwidth though, if you have a media server with an app, that has a broken "Download" feature. 5Gb is possible with existing CAT5e cabling.

  • @BGraves

    @BGraves

    4 ай бұрын

    I have tested 10gb over cat5e 50 ft. But to your point he just said 2.5 local network

  • @benwu7980

    @benwu7980

    4 ай бұрын

    At least the wired cables are still using a proper rating, iirc Cat 5e is 'guaranteed' for runs of 100m. it can certainly do faster of shorter distances.

  • @dhkatz_

    @dhkatz_

    4 ай бұрын

    Ok but you don't need this router for that? Buy a switch with 10 Gb support and just plug whatever router into it

  • @benhook1013

    @benhook1013

    4 ай бұрын

    Idk I want to see the continued growth of people with at home network storage (typically every house now has more than one computer/device, better than storage or externals for each device), and 1Gb/s is really not enough, maxing out at ~120MB/s, which is less than what a single HDD can do. Even just getting dumb switches above 1Gb/s is expensive caus they're much less common.

  • @BGraves

    @BGraves

    4 ай бұрын

    @@benhook1013 The path to getting above 1gigabit economically is through SFP+ used network cards and an SFP+ switch. From there you can go any route you want. I chose fiber as it consumes far less electricity over long runs. 2.5Gbe to WAN and 10Gbe for the high speed lan devices like my server, desktop PCs, and the 1Gbe switch.

  • @MrTurbo_
    @MrTurbo_4 ай бұрын

    So i will certainly be buying a Wifi 7 access point, but certainly not this one lmao

  • @Dabonman87

    @Dabonman87

    4 ай бұрын

    TP link Deco XE75 Pro has 6e backhaul and is a better deal anyway then eero

  • @Bob_Smith19

    @Bob_Smith19

    4 ай бұрын

    The standard isn’t even finalized. There is zero reason to buy it now. 6E is overkill for most.

  • @phr3ui559

    @phr3ui559

    4 ай бұрын

    true

  • @web1bastler

    @web1bastler

    4 ай бұрын

    I'll wait until I can buy Wifi7 M.2's and one unifi has something with 7 to offer.

  • @Tundreq
    @Tundreq4 ай бұрын

    How much power did it draw during idle and full speed download? That's a small thing I would like to know.

  • @wh0_am_152
    @wh0_am_1524 ай бұрын

    I think Linus missed a critical new feature of 802.11be that being that that devices can now connect to multiple bands simultaneously in 3 modes (for there not technical names), as duplex so one (o rmaybe more) band upload one (or maybe more) band download, all the speed stitching multiple bands together to provide insane download speeds, max range where the AP can send duplicates of the data on multiple bands so that if there is interference on one band in the space of the packet the other may make it through allowing the ap to succesfully send the packet the first time reducing active time, load and sustaining speeds at longer ranges.

  • @jamesstewart5005
    @jamesstewart50054 ай бұрын

    Can't wait for a WiFi 7 enabled VR headset. That sweet sweet wireless streaming bitrate.

  • @Doubie.
    @Doubie.4 ай бұрын

    I love the rated speed to port speed ratio

  • @Tomiply
    @Tomiply4 ай бұрын

    3:48 What do you mean? It's way easier to see dust on black routers than white ones. You should see my black router; it gets dirty so fast that it's crazy.

  • @tallrocko7010
    @tallrocko70104 ай бұрын

    Just wondering for testing the max capabilities of a network if there is a way where y'all can host a local speed test server or something equivalent to show the full capability of a device not your local speed test server. Note I understand that in the real world if you are the kind of person who will max this out you will probably be wired or a large scale network admin but it would be awesome.

  • @maxrburgess
    @maxrburgess4 ай бұрын

    I thought you were going to connect the APs to each other and see how much speed you could get. Could be an interesting main channel video

  • @Tagbadger3
    @Tagbadger34 ай бұрын

    I had eero 6s, which were fine, but they overheated too often, and too many functions are either hidden behind a subscription, or non existent in the name of "simplicity" or "user friendly". Switched to an ASUS router previously featured here.

  • @MrHaydnSir
    @MrHaydnSir4 ай бұрын

    as part of my old job i used to have to walk customers through setting these up over the phone - most brain-numbing task i've ever had to do with that said, the system we used to view a customer's home eero wifi settup was incredibly insightful, and when they worked - oh boy did they work with that said, more often than not they didn't just make ..sense sense

  • @wir7460
    @wir74604 ай бұрын

    3:55 Linus absolutely rofl, hahahaha, perfect delivery

  • @vinnyclegg
    @vinnyclegg4 ай бұрын

    Now all I need is a WiFi 7 VR headset to improve wireless vr further

  • @Brian-L
    @Brian-L4 ай бұрын

    Found an older Eero AP in an ewaste lot I purchased. Went to test it out of morbid curiosity and discovered an account was needed just to run your own Wi-Fi. Chucked it right back in the ewaste bin. 😂

  • @complexity5545

    @complexity5545

    4 ай бұрын

    Next time see if it has an open source chip and donate that sucker so we can get free firmware. lol If you have time or just give it to a known nerd that firmware hacks.

  • @polarpenguin3

    @polarpenguin3

    4 ай бұрын

    Kinda need an account if you want remote access features 🥴

  • @marksapollo

    @marksapollo

    4 ай бұрын

    Hmm can't think of anything that doesn't need an account these days, you must throw an awful lot of devices away including network gear.

  • @Green42069
    @Green420694 ай бұрын

    Happy holidays LMG.

  • @niospartan
    @niospartan3 ай бұрын

    At the end of the video for upload and download were they mixed up? The speed listed as U matches the download speed and the D matches the upload speed. I thought they were fixing mistakes they make more regularly.

  • @NutellaRLZ
    @NutellaRLZ4 ай бұрын

    As someone who works at a small ISP that uses Eeros as our go-to routers, I like them, but I also have issues with them. The criticisms about Eero plus are valid, however, the historic data is actually stored on Amazon servers for remote troubleshooting if power or connectivity is lost. Still doesn't justify not having an option for local historical data

  • @lilietto1

    @lilietto1

    4 ай бұрын

    It surprises me that an ISP would use Eero... the more you know. Here in Europe small ISP, from what I have seen, tend to use highly customizable routers from dedicated vendors like Fritzbox or Mikrotik etc.

  • @NutellaRLZ

    @NutellaRLZ

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lilietto1 that was my experience when I lived in Germany, but now that I'm working for an Oregon US based ISP I was surprised by the use of eeros. We also use MikroTik routers and Calix routers, but when anything goes wrong with Calix it goes catastrophically wrong

  • @cleanycloth
    @cleanycloth4 ай бұрын

    The Max 7 is waaaay too expensive for me, but I got a really good deal on two eero Pro 6E routers and have been very happy with them. And because I got one that was from an ISP, I got all of the router level eero Secure stuff for free!

  • @UC11pJjYnTJuZwWa-O7JRzAA

    @UC11pJjYnTJuZwWa-O7JRzAA

    4 ай бұрын

    I got an incredibly good deal on two 6E's recently as well, both from frontier. Definitely worth the upgrade from my previous WiFi 5 routers. The lower latency is fantastic for wireless displays.

  • @cleanycloth

    @cleanycloth

    4 ай бұрын

    @@UC11pJjYnTJuZwWa-O7JRzAA I had a couple WiFi 5 eeros and one WiFi 6, but I had issues playing VR wirelessly with them. Apart from one minor glitch per *session* it works fantastically now. I paid about £95 each for the Pros, I think they're over £200 new.

  • @mraso30
    @mraso304 ай бұрын

    Those Red Devil cards actually look really dope!

  • @Ranhallen
    @Ranhallen4 ай бұрын

    this is hilarious! i was thinking about getting it to play with friends and now I probably will.

  • @ryamelp
    @ryamelp4 ай бұрын

    Is the WiFi 7 standard even finalized yet? When he says spatial streams does he mean when a WiFi devices says it’s 2x2 or 4x4?

  • @lurick

    @lurick

    4 ай бұрын

    It's not finalized yet, that's next year some time. It's close though and probably the draft will be finalized but still it matters

  • @s.i.m.c.a

    @s.i.m.c.a

    4 ай бұрын

    2x2 means - 2 transmitters and 2 receivers =>. 2 spatial streams

  • @ryamelp

    @ryamelp

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lurick watch them lock firmware updates to get it out of draft behind that eero plus

  • @ryamelp

    @ryamelp

    4 ай бұрын

    @@s.i.m.c.a only ever seen at most 4x4 will WiFi 7 devices have more?

  • @deepspacecow2644

    @deepspacecow2644

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ryamelp Kind of unrelated, but some 5g RUs have what is called massive mimo and are 128x128

  • @prakash86anish
    @prakash86anish4 ай бұрын

    ❤❤ Love you for calling out unnecessary forced subscription for every little feature. ❤❤ I have ASUS ZenWIFI XT8 (almost 3-4 year old mesh system) and it has tonnes of free features. It is not perfect but it is not infected with any of these subscription viruses. Locking up everything under subscription umbrella should be illegal. Things like charging for VPN is understandable but this was just too much.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB11504 ай бұрын

    How is wifi 7 with range, interference tolerance and obstacle penetration? I'm super interested as my house is about 500 years old and has 2ft brick walls, even ubiquiti U6Es struggle to cover more than a few rooms lol

  • @lufycz.
    @lufycz.4 ай бұрын

    Might make sense to host a local iperf3 server to reduce reliance on outside servers you can't control?

  • @PAPO1990
    @PAPO19904 ай бұрын

    How did the ECC Squad miss the Upload and Download numbers being flipped in the overlay? :P Not a big deal, they were pretty similar both ways, but it's there ;)

  • @ivangerginov5648

    @ivangerginov5648

    4 ай бұрын

    Yup, they're still rushin' Not a big deal tho

  • @PAPO1990

    @PAPO1990

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ivangerginov5648 I don't know about it being a rush issue here, if there was NO ECC squad then I'd understand a minor error like that, but with 20 something people watching it specifically to check for errors, WITH fresh eyes... kinda seems like they're slacking :P

  • @acubley
    @acubley4 ай бұрын

    After seeing the price for two...sticker shock doesn't say enough. Anyone have a recommendation for a back haul set for wifi thru 4 walls?

  • @RFDN0

    @RFDN0

    4 ай бұрын

    I honestly just plan on building a ubiquity set up and then upgrading parts when strictly necessary.

  • @NigelBunt
    @NigelBunt4 ай бұрын

    cant wait for the reviews on the tplink , asus and net gear wifi 7's

  • @Callum440
    @Callum4404 ай бұрын

    Just switched fromt he eero 6plus, can couch for the content filtering. Im curious. The eero 6 plus dosnt support persistant LAN so if my line goes down so does my local network. Is that an issue that has moved to the 7? not that I plan to invest in a 7 at these prices more just a curiousity.

  • @Muppet-kz2nc
    @Muppet-kz2nc4 ай бұрын

    you can buy an eero pro 5 for like $35 these days and they work great in bridge mode. recommend eero to family thats not tech savy.

  • @FARBerserker
    @FARBerserker4 ай бұрын

    so, will it block AMAZON ADS AS WELL?

  • @lurick

    @lurick

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes but you need to subscribe 20 times, lol

  • @KeenVanguard
    @KeenVanguard4 ай бұрын

    I love my OG Eero pro and i thought it was funny the subscription thing kept popping up but that has never happened to me.

  • @squirrelzar
    @squirrelzar4 ай бұрын

    Cool to see these things starting to come out. But I’ll wait for Ubiquity’s AP whenever it comes lol

  • @b4ttlemast0r
    @b4ttlemast0r4 ай бұрын

    That's actually insane, I would never have expected Wifi 7 to make such a big difference in a real world use case.

  • @AlistairChiss
    @AlistairChiss4 ай бұрын

    I use separately named wifi bands because most smarthome devices need to be specifically setup onto a 2.4 network and if the phone is on the 5GHz or 6GHz band they fail to connect making everything a pain in the rear to configure.

  • @hnielsen123

    @hnielsen123

    4 ай бұрын

    That's not really how that works. Most dual and tri band routers are set up to allow seamless communication between bands. The router just routes traffic between them automatically. I have 2.4 and 5ghz on the same SSID, and I can see that my phone is connected on the 5ghz band and my IoT devices are on 2.4ghz, but I can still control them from my phone just fine. Maybe you have a really old router that isn't setup for this, but any router that is automatically putting the different bands together in to one SSID should have this capability.

  • @Frezcodelavita

    @Frezcodelavita

    4 ай бұрын

    Manual settings and then changing the encryption type usually helps

  • @MowMdown

    @MowMdown

    4 ай бұрын

    I’ve never had a single device refuse to connect on a single SSID under multiple bands

  • @BGraves

    @BGraves

    4 ай бұрын

    I have yet to encounter that issue. Encryption type, yes

  • @wh0_am_152

    @wh0_am_152

    4 ай бұрын

    With 802.11be though, devices will now be able to communicate on multiple bands simultaneously in 3 modes for simplicity's sake (yeah I'm not using the official names) I'm calling them duplex, max range, all the speed XD. Anyhow in duplex you can upload on band(s) and download on other band(s), in max range duplicate data is sent on multiple bands with ability to (I believe, merge or) select packets allowing for lower packet loss rates producing higher speeds and lower latency at range, all the speed allowes for stitched together streams for mindblowingly fadt downloads

  • @mindovrmatter33
    @mindovrmatter333 ай бұрын

    What was the screen about the fiber ont? I use fios fiber with an ont and wonder if I’ll need to do anything special to use these?

  • @bogdan_740
    @bogdan_74028 күн бұрын

    Nice speed man.

  • @mysteryboyee
    @mysteryboyee4 ай бұрын

    "Ive found its best to keep them all as the same ssid or it wont connect to the better connection" Literally exact opposite experience for me, all my devices would be stuck at 2.4ghz with all on a single ssid(and smart home stuff straight refuses to connect), but with them split i can force them to connect to the better 5ghz network and they stay there (with smart home stuff on the 2.4 of course), and even if the 2.4 technically has better range, even with lower signal stremgth the 5ghz metwork still gets way better speeds and latency, its not even a competition

  • @wh0_am_152

    @wh0_am_152

    4 ай бұрын

    802.11be brings massive new features to the table, one of them being MultiLink Operation the ability to communicate with a single device on multiple bands simultaneously allowing for geater speeds, lower latency, and farther effective range.

  • @evdomos
    @evdomos4 ай бұрын

    I've been using eero since 2018 and I've been very happy with it since then, however this product immediately scared me because of it's insane price and target market. Eero has always been a fantastic deal and easy to recommend in my line of work, but if they move to an enterprise business model then the product becomes inaccessible to the average user.

  • @Zardif

    @Zardif

    4 ай бұрын

    I put them in my grandmother's house because of how easy the eero 6 is to deal with. Hopefully they don't start messing that up.

  • @the_undead

    @the_undead

    4 ай бұрын

    This product just seems like a cynical cash grab because of how difficult. It was to sign up for that subscription. Seeing as this is the first I'm hearing of this company, I will likely never consider their products

  • @evdomos

    @evdomos

    4 ай бұрын

    @@the_undead First impressions are definitely important, but it's really not that hard, not that I'm at all interested in the subscription. If you're interested in features the subscription gives then it's probably not the right choice. However, the one time I had it it was painless to buy. But it's just been the best solution for easy setup and most importantly reliability in my job getting people's homes running, and I've had very, very few problems with them over that time period compared to the other solutions I've had to use over the years.

  • @KeenVanguard

    @KeenVanguard

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@the_undeadthis was just a crap shoot, Ive had eero since before they were an Amazon brand and it's honestly really good. I recommend them to everyone. The app is normally super great and for some reason it wouldn't take his sub. The popup shouldn't have happened after subscribed but if you don't ever plan on using the extra paid features the popup never shows itself

  • @polarpenguin3

    @polarpenguin3

    4 ай бұрын

    I've had one of their routers since 2018 and it was literally the easiest router to set up I've ever owned. Literally anyone with a functioning brain could set one up, and that's not an exaggeration. I've also never had an issue with it, never had to reset it or anything, it just works. They've also always had the eero plus subscription for extra features. Just don't pay for them if you don't need them (that's what I do).

  • @balls2bone
    @balls2bone4 ай бұрын

    I'm still using an old BT Homehub 5 type A with OpenWRT, it supports wifi 5. And, I mostly set my phone to use 2.4GHz as the coverage is better.

  • @4carhur1more
    @4carhur1more4 ай бұрын

    "THEY GO IN YOUR EARS!!!" 😂😂😂 funniest thing I've heard from Linus in a while.

  • @doorgoo
    @doorgoo4 ай бұрын

    I appreciate fiber ONT, it’ll make people who get these question where to plug them in before they complain about terrible speeds plugged into a garbage Verizon router

  • @s.i.m.c.a

    @s.i.m.c.a

    4 ай бұрын

    now ppl would scream why their fiber ont is just 30 megabit lol. fiber not means 10 gigabit speeds lol

  • @Askaly

    @Askaly

    4 ай бұрын

    People who buy a $1200 access point dont own a 'garbage verizon router'.

  • @chasemsutton
    @chasemsutton4 ай бұрын

    Why did they not show the awesome mesh functionality built into WiFi 7? That’s what makes me most excited for it

  • @sadmanh0

    @sadmanh0

    4 ай бұрын

    doesn't that already exist in older versions?

  • @chasemsutton

    @chasemsutton

    4 ай бұрын

    @@sadmanh0from what I’ve read, WiFi 7 takes mesh to a whole new level.

  • @sadmanh0

    @sadmanh0

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chasemsutton like, the second floor?

  • @chasemsutton

    @chasemsutton

    4 ай бұрын

    @@sadmanh0more like the basement, actually.

  • @post-leftluddite
    @post-leftluddite4 ай бұрын

    I wish theyd advertise routers NOT by the combined speed of every frequency/channel, but by the speed a single connection/user can achieve with a data transfer, i.e. whats the maximum speed a wifi 7 pc can transfer a file to another wifi7 PC through a WiFi 7 router....I think its 5.8Gbps, but its very hard to get a straight answer

  • @gander13189
    @gander131894 ай бұрын

    I got the WIFI6 eero's love them. never needed the subscription service.

  • @radovanobal3842
    @radovanobal38424 ай бұрын

    That subscription, an absolute deal breaker.

  • @FLUIDITY_O
    @FLUIDITY_O4 ай бұрын

    Just got the WiFi 7 deco and tbh I tried the eero and Orbi WiFi 7 systems and they were both disappointing. The only system I can recommend at the time is the Deco it’s quite phenomenal.

  • @Dkrocksmith
    @Dkrocksmith4 ай бұрын

    O.N.T = optical network terminal. It's like a modern, but for fiber optics

  • @lonergothonline
    @lonergothonline4 ай бұрын

    I feel like beyond a certain point it would make more sense to have the device connect to whichever the slowest band/ssid actually is, until the user does something that requires more speed, like streaming, then it goes up a tier to 5/6/7

  • @Hittsy

    @Hittsy

    4 ай бұрын

    depends... 2.4 and 5ghz bands are also available for use by other fields, not just WiFi. Baby monitors, wireless security cameras, etc. all use it, so you might want to keep devices on 6ghz as much as possible for reliability, since that band has much less interference.

  • @daemonbyte

    @daemonbyte

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Hittsy that's what they use to say about 5.

  • @ChrisGrump
    @ChrisGrump4 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah, I will need this for the blistering fast 50 Mbps maximum I have available.

  • @ErrorMessageNotFound
    @ErrorMessageNotFound4 ай бұрын

    EERO gives you very little control of your own wifi network. Want to disable 2.4ghz or 5ghz or separate it out into it's own SSID, nope. Want to see what ports are open with UPNP, nope. Just about everything is automatic and if their algorithm doesn't allow for your use case then you are out of luck. There is no manual work around, period. That's why it changed from 3 separate SSIDs on the video to one and he didn't know why. It decided to do that for whatever reason and he had no control.

  • @Akkbar21

    @Akkbar21

    4 ай бұрын

    Sounds like trash.

  • @CommodoreFan64

    @CommodoreFan64

    4 ай бұрын

    Crap like this is why I stick with TP-Link, or ASUS for consumer grade networking.

  • @KeenVanguard

    @KeenVanguard

    4 ай бұрын

    Which router do you have in pretty sure the new 6e does. My older OG pro did not but I don't ever have a need to split them as they work 100% of the time on the band they auto assign

  • @polarpenguin3

    @polarpenguin3

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Akkbar21It's the complete opposite. These routers literally are as plug and play as it gets. These are meant for your average consumer, not for a networking professional. Nobody wants to spend hours figuring out how to configure a network. I could give this to my grandparents with no instructions and they could set one of these things up. That right there is the most beautiful thing I can imagine. With this, you never have to worry about your tech illiterate family member's wifi again.

  • @marksapollo

    @marksapollo

    4 ай бұрын

    Want an easy to use router you just plug in and get up and running in under 2 minutes? Yeap.

  • @SeanBlader
    @SeanBlader4 ай бұрын

    Even the original Kickstarter Eero's innovated by letting each ethernet port on any unit do anything. My incoming line from my ISP is in the utility closet, more or less in the basement. So upstairs I have a meshed Eero Pro, and connected to it via ethernet is my gate internet module.

  • @jeofelmondeja3843
    @jeofelmondeja38434 ай бұрын

    Can you make a review for Netduma R3?

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan12394 ай бұрын

    The fact that Linus was able to REPEAT the problems with the subscribing -- that will DEFINITELY make it back to the Eero app software team with SOMEBODY asking "WTF?". We have the eero 6 (apparently) (not 6E), but it works well enough for what we need it to do. :)

  • @Konarcoffee
    @Konarcoffee4 ай бұрын

    Standardization groups/consortiums/whatever should learn a little patience. Releasing upgrade after upgrade to a standard while having almost no devices supporting it is a stupid way to do things

  • @DeepStereo1
    @DeepStereo14 ай бұрын

    I am speeeeed

  • @tunaman44
    @tunaman4422 күн бұрын

    So do you have to use the subscription to use it ?

  • @Toss3
    @Toss32 ай бұрын

    You should use the CLI version of Speedtest :)

  • @zapman2100
    @zapman21004 ай бұрын

    so another junk product that cant actually really do what it says it can because of device limitations. shouldn't this be false advertisement if it cant actually connect to the devices it says it can at the speeds it advertises.

  • @witherouz593

    @witherouz593

    4 ай бұрын

    thats where the funny "up to" words come in, those two words fix all legal obligations

  • @maolcogi
    @maolcogi4 ай бұрын

    I just love your choice of chairs. LOVE my Herman Miller Gaming Embody! Best chair... EVER!!!

  • @JayTownsend1
    @JayTownsend14 ай бұрын

    In the uk we call the fibre box ont so might be regional of the company maybe? Just a guess though

  • @jayden5526
    @jayden55264 ай бұрын

    the uploads and download metrics at around 10:40 are switched around

  • @crashtfa
    @crashtfa4 ай бұрын

    That intrusive skin for that video card looks like it belongs in a star forge pc

  • @jacobjericho1
    @jacobjericho14 ай бұрын

    is that the oneplus open i see ? good man :) i love the phone , hope you do too

  • @marcusloo767
    @marcusloo7674 ай бұрын

    Wouldn’t the only function/benefit to 10gb lan/46gb WiFi speed be internal network file transfer, internal communication speed or rdp?

  • @mrsittingmongoose
    @mrsittingmongoose4 ай бұрын

    The upload and download tags when you are comparing the 3 phones at the end are reversed. You have download labeled upload and vice versa.

  • @mcharipar5
    @mcharipar54 ай бұрын

    Meet my ONT, nice one Linus lol!

  • @MPAzezal
    @MPAzezal4 ай бұрын

    I was not expecting the speed results of wifi 7 (when right next to it)

  • @MrSkyl1ne
    @MrSkyl1ne4 ай бұрын

    How is this the first wifi 7 router you've gotten your hands on when the deco be85 from tp-link has been available for months already in north America?

  • @Ender_Wiggin
    @Ender_Wiggin4 ай бұрын

    Yes you did see this before look at your review of the 60ghz router you did ages ago

  • @liamhill1702
    @liamhill17022 ай бұрын

    it would be cool if we could use wifi 7's full 16x16 lanes on a laptop for say, wireless video transfer, or wigig like docks.

  • @Newbeejtk1
    @Newbeejtk14 ай бұрын

    True even downloading games on the Xbox Series X with a wired 1.4 Gbps internet connection on average the download speeds never even come remotely close to maxing out. Maybe only hitting the high 500 to mid 600 Mbps range during the download

  • @Sonyboj
    @Sonyboj4 ай бұрын

    is that the oneplus fold he is using o_0 Good shit. Im very happy with my 10 pro

  • @littlejack59
    @littlejack594 ай бұрын

    This is why not doing sponsored reviews is important. Ive never seen anyone on short-circuit be this critical of a products buggy system they always just say "preproduction" or "ya their going to patch that"

  • @intetx
    @intetx4 ай бұрын

    It would be nice to get some of the lower bands for wifi at some point. 6Ghz goes through walls even worse than 5Ghz. Good old 2.4 Ghz bands are still the best there we have access to. Something like 1.8Ghz would help us a lot more.

  • @phillvallace
    @phillvallace3 ай бұрын

    10GB is really nice to have on a Network if your video editing of another machine or backing up a machine to another, 1gb lan is just so slow to this, USB is miles past those speeds today

  • @MaethorDerien
    @MaethorDerien4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I just bought a wifi 7 router, funny enough getting the network cards is almost impossible though. The only reason I went that route is more I wanted wifi 6e to use with the quest 3 and figured if I am redoing my network I might as well go with something that will last longer.

  • @profosist

    @profosist

    4 ай бұрын

    Intel b e 200

  • @profosist

    @profosist

    4 ай бұрын

    Part of it being so hard to get stuff is that Wi-Fi 7 is still in draft and not completely ratified seems rather close but still never been to wait really hurt me on my draft N The fact that it's raining draft 7 spec Hardware could very well explain the cost is there still testing it and it hasn't been cost cut down to the bare minimum and they haven't figured out how far they can tweak it produce energy draw xcetera

  • @foxale08
    @foxale084 ай бұрын

    The official standard for Wifi 7 hasn't been released yet. It's possible for compatibility issues with future devices.

  • @cwinter90
    @cwinter904 ай бұрын

    Valve Deckard could use this maybe? Isnt part of the problem with bandwidth for the video not being good? Idk... Just a thought.

  • @TheRogueAdventurers
    @TheRogueAdventurers4 ай бұрын

    I mean WiFi access points being white does make sense because they're usually attached to the wall or ceiling and those are usually painted white

  • @DigitalIP
    @DigitalIP4 ай бұрын

    Was the app being restarted tried? cuz like... yeah.. sometimes thats the only way for certain things to be updated/accepted/detected..

  • @SwirlyTwirl
    @SwirlyTwirl4 ай бұрын

    Wonder what wireless PCVR would be like on this, assuming we get a headset that supports it.

  • @akeelshah7904

    @akeelshah7904

    4 ай бұрын

    Insanity if it was utilised properly

  • @chrisjomariephilippm.rapac9578
    @chrisjomariephilippm.rapac95784 ай бұрын

    Can you review Netduma R3 just release

  • @matthewshields
    @matthewshields4 ай бұрын

    I currently have mostly WiFi 5 and a few WiFi 6 devices, nothing 6E or above. Usually it's not worth buying the latest WiFi until it's been out for 2 - 3 years.

  • @RadOo

    @RadOo

    4 ай бұрын

    I have Wi-Fi 6 mesh system and I can't be more happy, gladly accepts older devices as well. No issues. In my ideal condition I have about 600-700mbps both down/up. And according to steam survey, most people still have barely over 50-100mbps download speeds, so in that case, 802.11n / Wi-Fi 4 is still sufficient enough.

  • @joeandjoeable123
    @joeandjoeable1234 ай бұрын

    I'm actually surprised at the speeds you got with wifi 5. It could be that your office's air is noisy, but on my eero 6e, using my wifi 6(not e) device I get full internet speed 1200+ mbps, so Im surprised you got less. Is this expected for tests from your office or is it to do with the device, such as the other features it supports hogging resources or potentially a worse antenna?

  • @pproba

    @pproba

    4 ай бұрын

    You're surprised that they got lower speeds with wifi 5 than you with wifi 6?

  • @stupidgamer4765
    @stupidgamer47654 ай бұрын

    devs def programmed a 'trust me you don't want this' lmao

  • @MadeInMinecraft
    @MadeInMinecraft4 ай бұрын

    Ive had a WiFi 7 router for about 6 months now, it’s a TP-Link Deco BE85, with 802.11be a.k.a WiFi 7 Is it not available in North America?

  • @GothicDragonX
    @GothicDragonX4 ай бұрын

    Still using my original Netgear Orbi, and I still need to see the need to upgrade besides the advantage of WiFi 6e/7, mainly because I'm under gigabit connection from the ISP; no point in overspending for internet if I still have not maxed out my current speed, sure is nice to download anything in a matter of seconds than minutes. And still, I can stream media between devices and my PC without any issues. With all that said, WiFi 7 is excellent. I can't wait for 8 or 9 when I am ready to upgrade.

  • @hiteshkumaryadav4691
    @hiteshkumaryadav46912 ай бұрын

    does the power brick have a 110v-240v rating?

  • @gothicmexican
    @gothicmexicanАй бұрын

    Are all the bands non unified?

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