…aaand, he can give a captivating speech, on stage, with NO notes, for 45+min. This man continues to be unbelievable.

@alfredonski

9 ай бұрын

he reveresed enginereed how to do a captivating speech, kept me at the edge of my seat

@replynotificationsdisabled

9 ай бұрын

Besides the part where he said Utah and Colorado on are other sides of the country.

@paulbade3566

9 ай бұрын

@@replynotificationsdisabled I took that in context of his contrast of the area with the flatlands to the east.

@paulbade3566

9 ай бұрын

It was good. He made his points, and did so memorably, and that's what counts. It is is said that a reporter once asked President Truman how long it took to prepare a ten-minute speech. He replied, "About a day." "How long to prepare a one-hour speech?" "I can start right now." So, well-done for a near-extemporaneous speech.

@thomasloper1205

9 ай бұрын

If you know your material inside and out, it’s easy. Reminds me of the 2 hours Rush did on live tv with nothing written before. Clearly Mike Patey knows his stuff.

I don't know if Mike personally looks over the comments or if he has someone that takes care of that for him, but seriously... it's HARD to be that vulnerable on such a fresh and painful subject. Much respect, sir, and I hope you can find your peace soon.

@MikePatey

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, yea this is me, I don’t get to read all the comments often but on this situation reading them is helping me cope. Feeling that maybe I am helping someone, somehow, keeping people safer helps heal my heart. Thanks for the kind words.. Back to Work, Mike

@hotrodray6802

8 ай бұрын

I've lost some friends lately, not aviation related, but it's never easy. 🙏🙏😎

@brendansmyth2712

8 ай бұрын

Oof l

@RJ-yn3nu

8 ай бұрын

Very passionate and honest talk, extremely moving. I've had my Lancair IV, for 20yrs, only once on a night VFR clear and decent weather Brisbane to Sydney got icing and with that critical wing, it was so fast barely minutes and airspeed decayed. We dropped and it dissapeared, i cannot imagine the danger you guys in USA experience. Stay safe and wait a day or four it those 3 things Mike talks about line up.

@cloudyeight

8 ай бұрын

​@@MikePatey Thank you so much for telling these stories to help keep us safe.

I’m a sailor. Early in my keelboat days I used to deliberately head out in gale conditions because I had a stout boat and years of sailing experience in dinghy’s. I always checked the forecast, and had all the necessary safety gear. One day I headed out with winds forecast to be 25 to 30 knots with 10 foot seas. “No problem - I’m just gonna head out a mile or two and see how it goes. I can always run back into the harbor if it gets too ugly” At first, winds were light and variable, with big lumpy seas. No problem. So sailed a little further out. Then the wind suddenly shifted 180°, and it began to blow. HARD. Harder than I ever experienced at sea. It was blowing offshore to that meant I’d be blown out to sea of if I was unable to sail up wind back into the harbor. No way my tiny outboard engine was going to get me home that day. So I sailed. I reefed down the mainsail and beat back into the harbor under my working jib. What was forecast has 25 to 30 kn turned into 30 to 45 kn of wind from a completely different direction. The windstorm was so powerful that it sank boats 40 miles away at Catalina island. I was lucky to survive the situation I’d put myself in. I was alone. I pushed myself and my little 20 foot keelboat to their absolute limit, and I learned that forecasts are not perfect. I am an older and much wiser sailor now I know exactly why this pilot has a three strike rule, and is much more conservative now than when he started out. I have a one strike rule now I won’t deliberately head out of the harbor if winds are forecast to be 20 kn or greater. Ask any experienced offshore sailor. They’ll tell you that when it’s over 20 kn. Things start getting serious. Over 30 and you will have your hands full no matter how big or well-equipped your sailboat is. Over 40 kn, and you are in near survival conditions in most boats. If you want to have a long, safe and enjoyable sailing career, you won’t deliberately head out of the harbor when the forecast calls for strong winds. It sounds to me like the same thing applies to general aviation regarding density altitude, performance, icing, mountainous, terrain night, flying and carrying heavy loads. I always seek to maintain a wide margin of safety when I put to sea. I never want to be caught out again in conditions That require 100% from me or my ship. Because at 101% it’s over.

@TheJustinJ

9 ай бұрын

Great story. I love to hear about sailing adventures! Aviation is similar, a light plane you also don't want to be out there in anything over 40kt winds. 30 can be sketchy unless its really smooth, and coming right down the runway heading. So 20kts with any crosswind component is a good rule of thumb for small ~2,000lb airplanes. It's ill-advised to depart into mountain terrain with greater than 20kt winds down low. 30kt winds aloft at the very most. Anything over that, and mountain wave along with rotors and weird wind shear and vertical gusts will make the experience somewhere between miserable and fatal.

@diviningrod2671

7 ай бұрын

Sailed out of Oxnard or ventura? I did a season of lobster fishing out of Santa Barbara Greatest adventure ever, and even though I grew up in so cal, it ignited my love for the sea. And very surprising, considering I suffer from thalassophobia.

@atempestrages5059

6 ай бұрын

Brilliant bit of writing- safe sailing friend. :)

Thank you for saying all of this Mike. As a professional pilot for my entire adult life I have lost way too many friends that were superior pilots to me. My dad told me when I was just a kid that "Superior pilots use their superior judgement to avoid having to use their superior skill". Your words and emotions are heard loud and clear.

@MrGaryGG48

9 ай бұрын

Your comment brings back an old parable about "...Old Pilots & Bold Pilots but few Old, Bold Pilots. My dad was a bush pilot & hunting guide in Alaska when I was growing up in the 1950s and memories of flying friends lost never go away.

@cheddar2648

8 ай бұрын

We had a similar one on the floaters: "Superb shiphandling means avoiding situations where your superb skills become required."

@scheusselmensch5713

8 ай бұрын

I dunno my friend, if you're still around and they are gone, I have some questions about who was the superior pilot.

@lanceav8r

8 ай бұрын

@@scheusselmensch5713 Another saying is “I would rather be lucky than good”

@scheusselmensch5713

8 ай бұрын

Yeah well, luck runs out, good lasts. Some sayings are pretty stupid. Like "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.". Ask a polio survivor or long covid sufferer about that one.@@lanceav8r

I started flying when I was 16... went on to fly USAF fighter and cargo aircraft, followed by 20,000hr+ at a major US airline. I'm now 70 yrs old and can say that Mike's talk above is the BEST I've ever heard. Pure aviation wisdom....

@aleks_jones

5 ай бұрын

thank you for your service

@stevemilo6935

4 ай бұрын

Its sad that this is character mike is the best there is to offer.

@susannewilliams

4 ай бұрын

Highest respects. Extremely grateful to you.

@dextermorgan1

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for your service and sacrifice. 😊

I can empathize with your pain @MikePatey. I’ve lost 6 friends in the last 5 years - 5 of them in warbirds, which is my real passion. The pain of constantly losing friends can be unbearable at times. I too have taken a step back. I’ve flown my plane twice in the last year, and haven’t touched a warbirds in almost 12 months. We need to do better. We need to make better decisions. We need better training. We cannot have the mentality that it won’t happen to us. Thank you for sharing your story and perspective. We’re not alone in our grief.

@excellenceinanimation960

9 ай бұрын

How is it so bad even with people with hundred of hours of experience. I’m just starting hopping to solo in a glider in the next month or so but if thees guys die how do I have a chance? I’m still going to do it but jees!

@SportDCS

9 ай бұрын

@@excellenceinanimation960 it’s easy to get complacent as you become more experienced. Always stay vigilant!

@TheJustinJ

9 ай бұрын

A cursory review of WWI-Vietnam era Warbirds, when they were nearly new off the assembly line, operated by young fit for duty men, trained by the best instructors in the world, still crashed and killed countless thousands of aviators from all nations, without any exceptions. If you strap into a warbird, accept that you are taking a substantial risk, somewhere in the category of rappelling and wing-suit flying. And there is nothing you can do to eliminate those risks. Only reduce them through perfection in maintenance, substantial training, etc. all of which costs significant money and time. And even if you do everything right, you will still have the accident and fatality rate that is easily researched in historical records. It is unlikely you can beat that record. Only tie for it.

I only started flying around a year ago and have always had the mindset of safety first, had plenty of hairy situations on the ground, don't need them in the air. That policy of 3 strikes for ANYTHING nonstandard is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. Thank you Mike, we appreciate you, back to work 👊

@realulli

9 ай бұрын

"Better to be on the ground wishing to be in the air than to be in the air, wishing to be on the ground"... I don't know who said this but I think it's something to remember... :-)

@zachansen8293

9 ай бұрын

Just make sure you understand that that's only for minor things. There are lots of one-strike and you're out things, too. The three strike rule is for stuff that you look at at first and think "that doesn't matter"

@Fidd88-mc4sz

9 ай бұрын

I was taught a variation of his "3 strikes" rule, which is to pay particular attention when you are feeling compelled to make a flight, or any aspect of that flight, before or during, is unusual for you.

@Fidd88-mc4sz

8 ай бұрын

@@RandySeverino That was almost certainly true of just retired pilots in 1990 too. Every generation of pilots thinks the "young whipper-snapper" pilots of the next generation are no good. There is sometimes a little truth in it, as a retired instructor I despair of watching youtube modern pilots with glass-cockpits, no air-charts stuffed down their boot, and no clockwork stop-watch on their knee-board, utterly reliant on the instruments for navigation and no "head on the swivel" lookout, because the same technology that they're navigating with ALSO tells them where other aircraft are - when it's working, if it's fitted to the other aircraft! One wonders how they'll fair if the glass-cockpit goes black, or if a glider or hot air-balloon flies close by. I've got to think half of them won't see the threat...

@edwardwang78

8 ай бұрын

I'm interested in pursuing my PPL but the strike about night flying has gotten me thinking. Especially after the accident involving Richard McSpadden, I've wondered what would happen if a flight were to suffer an engine failure on takeoff, especially at night. I figure one would have a hard time distinguishing between a clear area to land and a dark populated area, unless they are already familiar with the area. That's also assuming the flight is in clear weather. Maybe choosing an airport with a long runway or with lots of open, flat land nearby would help mitigate that risk.

When my oldest brother was killed in a car accident in 1986, the state police officer said; "There are no accidents, there are only incidents which have chain of event causes". In my brother's case, it was a young man driving with his girlfriend on a wide open country road who missed a single stop sign at a country road crossing.

@ChandraSlyFoxPatey

9 ай бұрын

Oh man, I’m so sorry for your loss. The hole in our hearts never goes away. You’re absolutely correct, always a chain of events.

@merlepatterson

9 ай бұрын

@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey Thank you, we all miss him still to this day.

@TheJustinJ

9 ай бұрын

I work on gravel roads out east in colorado. The number of people who run stop signs out here is unbelievable. And many if not all of these 4-way intersections are only only two way stops, so you gotta play it like demolition derby. People are profoundly stupid. The exception is rare.

@my_channel_44

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheJustinJYou learn from driving motorcycles, and living through it, that you have to watch all traffic for all possibilities. Then pilot your vehicle through the safest corridor. Never hotrod it.

@goober239

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheJustinJ I wouldn't always dismiss those as stupidity. I ran through a stop sign while I was working as a 3rd shift security guard. No one else was there at the intersection thank goodness, but I learned that I needed more time to adjust to my new sleeping schedule.

I once read flying is no different to riding a motorcycle You have two buckets Luck / experience Your goal is to fill the experience bucket before the luck bucket is empty.

@JP-ec9rl

3 сағат бұрын

Doing both, I'd agree except that it's easier to find a place to park a motorcycle than to find one to park a plane.

Mike Patey talking about the three strikes only solidifies my decision to give up on flying. I did not have the time to dedicate to my skills and I was flying rentals. I loved it but I love my family more. I just realized that I was more likely to have a bad day in the air at some point. I had achieved a lifelong dream of becoming a pilot. I got to experience it. And for that I am grateful.

@markr.devereux3385

6 ай бұрын

Good assessment ! I keep encountering older experienced G.A. pilots with professional careers and beautiful families CRASH & BURN because of some unexpected emergency.

Speaking as a 57 year pilot, a 43 year CFI, 45 year ATP and the recipient of the FAA’s Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award, all I can say is this extemporaneous presentation by Mike Patey is simply the best talk on safety that I have ever heard. PERIOD. If pilots will listen to this and heed Mike’s advice, lives will be saved. Thank you sir. #nooldboldpilots

I’m a 7 thousand hour professional pilot and this was one of the best talks I’ve ever heard. I routinely say no in my job and every damn manager up and down frowns every time we say no but at the end of the day it’s the hardest and most important thing I do is saying no.

Mike Patey is a remarkable human being.

@shcaskey

9 ай бұрын

yes he is!!

@aaahtex902

9 ай бұрын

AMEN @@shcaskey

@smicksmookety

9 ай бұрын

That's just cuz you're remarking on him.

@floridasaltlife

9 ай бұрын

I was immensely moved by his talk. Wow. what an amazing individual and what would it be like to have a Friend like him in your life.....

@kobyonekanobie2790

9 ай бұрын

Yes he is a extraordinary person

The amount of fatalities where one of the occupants was a flight instructor is beyond alarming. Many of these flight instructors are extremely young. We have a serious problem here and it’s growing.

@rc-fannl7364

8 ай бұрын

It seems like the amount of accidents is growing, looking at the amount of vids about "probable cause" and so on. Is the FAA suffering from tunnel vision, with their focus on enforcing remote ID for small UAV craft above 250g, or even below, when flown as part 107 operation, and losing focus on the risks of manned aviation, where people die on a daily basis?

@SgfGustafsson

8 ай бұрын

Instructional flights are the most difficult and dangerous. Those instructors have to try to teach in a highly dynamic and relatively chaotic environment where sometimes the students are inadvertently trying to kill them or put their certificates at risk. It is juggling quite a lot with crap pay and typically crap schedules, working for many more hours than the Hobbs meter shows. It is exactly where I’d expect to see most accidents, GA or instructional flights.

@hotrodray6802

8 ай бұрын

It's been getting steadily worse since 1970. My instructors were flying in 1936 and 48. Took my first lesson at 10 yrs old. I learned the old ways and AQP. In 55 years CP I've flown with several incompetent unsafe pilots with 5-10,000 hours. Scary. I sold a single engine Cessna to a CP and he stall/spun it on takeoff, fatally. How the hell does that happen? 🔔😎

@cessna177flyer3

8 ай бұрын

@@rc-fannl7364 The GA accident rate is at or near a historic low. The amount of reporting makes it "seem" otherwise, but the data shows we are improving. Google AvWeb's excellent article "Is Accident Reporting Making Us All Crazy" for a deeper dive into the actual numbers.

@cheddar2648

8 ай бұрын

The aviation industry imposed many arbitrary requirements to make qualified airline pilots. This shortage is self-inflicted.

Great speech! I'm mind-blown at the guys loading the boxes back into your brother's plane and hiding them. Unreal.

@chuckgilly

9 ай бұрын

Friends to die for.

@getstuk87

9 ай бұрын

I wish there were more details. That guy must feel awful. And they must have been angry.

This is the most humbled talk Mike has ever done. I have never seen him so serious. All pilots and passengers need to watch this, it will keep more of us alive. Thank you for this.

So well said. At 73 I now don't: drive at night, drive in bad weather, drive when tired, drive when the 'flat landers' are crowding snow covered roads. Thank you Mike.

@ThePudgie123

8 ай бұрын

Amen.....I also just installed LED headlights to see better, but also as a little revenge to all those Toyota and Escalade owners who have been blinding me. ;-)

@ThePeasantsCottage

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@ThePudgie123 Me too😂. But on recent trip from NC to FL 2 weeks after they were installed, they made ALL the difference! Still don’t plan on making night driving a thing, tho.

The best advice my dad, a pilot for 65 years, gave me was, "Never take anything for granted". Not your aircraft, not your flying abilities, not the weather, not the wind, not other planes in the air with you. He also said, "Never ever be in a hurry or you have to get there no matter the conditions".

@patheddles4004

9 ай бұрын

Get-there-itis is a killer, 100%.

@Paiadakine

9 ай бұрын

That last one is what I follow. I can always fly another day, I can get there another day. Lots of good advice.

“Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity, or neglect.” - Captain A. G. Lamplugh

@dyer2cycle

6 ай бұрын

There is much wisdom in this statement...but to the average person, telling them that flying is safe is often misunderstood..really, I contend that it is not inherently safe..it has more factors and forces trying to kill you at the same time than any other mode of transport, except space travel, and perhaps deep-sea submarine...most people who love aviation understand the risks they take, and do what is necessary and prudent to minimize those risks, to an acceptable level...but they still know something can go wrong at any moment, and they accept those risks....

My dad had 17,000+ hours, ATP and CFI ratings, wanted to teach me to fly. I knew with my personality and thrill-seeking penchant, it would end up bad. I never got rated and also stay off road motorcycles. I made it to 61 years old so far, because I understood my flaw.

@nemo227

8 ай бұрын

If we make it past childhood . . . we're just plain lucky. I could tell you stories and I was a relatively careful kid. I'm 84 now but I don't jump over fences, I look around my car before I back out of a parking space, etc. Oh, and I don't do midnight sky diving (I never did).🤫

@PsRohrbaugh

8 ай бұрын

This attitude is why I drive a Sprinter van. Slow and safe.

@rcvg69420

8 ай бұрын

I know someone who has this pov on risky activities and I find it weird. So you're too hardcore to even partake? That's not true. Sounds like you're just scared. You're obviously interested in flying and motorcycles so you should get involved in these things as safely as you can. You're already 61. Do you want to have lived your whole life avoiding your interests because you were scared? I don't mean to put this harshly, just please enjoy life.

@nemo227

8 ай бұрын

@@PsRohrbaugh And you can sleep in it too. They make cool camper vans.

@shable1436

8 ай бұрын

​@@rcvg69420how many close calls do you have to have before you know it's a matter of time? Calling someone scared is immature, maybe they have other things in their lives that are more important than themselves, like a family that loves them, and doesn't want to risk their lives because of them, you know how mountain climbing is, it seems to be a very selfish hobby, just to climb something and risk your life and if you die, your children, and partner in life are left broken forever. Sometimes you need to weigh your risks and mitigate it, and although I think flying is as safe as you make it, but it's mother nature, or pilot error, malfunctioning crafts, it's too many variables for some to deal with comfortably, not everyone can be professional commercial pilots that accumulate thousands of hours, and that you pay for their expertise in keeping you alive

Mike, you hit a HOME RUN! I wish EVERY pilot would watch this video!

Patey is aways wired, and it can't possibly be coffee! The man is just 24/7 energy.

@freedomfox8183

9 ай бұрын

If you had the reward at the end of the work he does you'd be working hard too... He's built quite the life for

@imaner76

9 ай бұрын

24/7 intelligence.

@flip66five

9 ай бұрын

ADHD I hear... he sure spins it into a superpower though if that's a fact

@Ring0--

9 ай бұрын

@@flip66five I'm going with your guess.

@Ring0--

9 ай бұрын

Wasn't an insult gentlemen.

It takes a lot of courage to walk up to your friends plane and take the passenger out of the back. You saved two lives that day. Much respect. BTW I love your channel. Watched the Scrappy build and much more. General aviation is in trouble. Training is the problem IMHO. OMG Mike. I am so sorry.

Man, Mike, as a retired Army Special Ops guy who’s now a fixed wing flight student at SUU this speech was great to watch and listen to. I feel like I’m being overly cautious with my flights but now I know the more cautious the better. Thank you sharing these experiences with us all.

I will preface my comments with the fact that I am not a pilot. I stumbled onto the aviation side of KZread by accident. I watch every video that Juan puts out; he is at the top of my list. I subscribed to Mike's channel as soon as he started his talk. This has been a special hour for me. Thanks to both of you.

@alexdarcydestsimon3767

9 ай бұрын

Mike is not only a very experienced humble pilot but also an Engineer who proved he can make the impossible possible. He gladly shares what he does. Awesome Guy !😅😅. Enjoy the show.

Really enjoyed this talk on safety. I 100% agree. The longer you fly, the more you realise it's just not worth it to take chances.

I cried watching most of this video...He really-really cares about all these pilots.

what a rare friend you are.. I was taught the 3 strike rule 30 years ago by a CFI out of Scottsdale... His giving me that rule stopped a number of flights but ya know what? am still here banging on a keyboard.... Pretty good chance I would not be if I did not heed his advice like your friend did... Bob Davies was a character and heck of a pilot...

I STARTED FLYING IN 1953. RETIRED NOW. I LOVE THIS MAN PATEY AND HIS BROTHER. HE SPEAKS TRUTH.

@aztomt406

9 ай бұрын

I started flying in 69 and feel the same way. I find myself constantly searching for new videos. I was totally addicted to Draco.

@tropicthndr

9 ай бұрын

Mike Patey and Dan Gryder should team up, rewrite the books, and drain the swamp of stupidity in the NTSB and FAA.

@jayklink851

9 ай бұрын

Patey has a point, probably every pilot at some point, especially the younger males, have taken risks that weren't worth it. Confidence doesn't always equal competence.

@aztomt406

9 ай бұрын

@@jayklink851 That's right. Overconfidence will get you killed.

@jamesburns2232

9 ай бұрын

And they do it at a fraction of the cost of the NTSB and the FAA. 🤑🤔🤨

sorry to hear of your personal loss. It's bloody tough, unfathomable, unfair and will never leave you. I lost my best friend flying. He got a very serious head injury skiing. Was 7 days in intensive care. Was eventually released and flew back to NZ. He was stood down for a long time from flying here in NZ. He became impatient. He traveled to Aust and got a medical clearance and renewed his license. He died after making a turn in his glider and flying straight into the ground. One of his symptoms was that he would momentarily mix up right and left. Did it in his car about three weeks beforehand when taking his 18 year old son to catch a flight. So my best friend turned the wrong way, and being near Ridge's face had no chance. I feel your pain. Such a waste and so preventable. Stay safe. Enjoy your flying and think of your friends often. They will be flying with you. You will find that out in the most obscure ways if you open your mind.

@JK360noscope

7 ай бұрын

Don't mess with your head!

Big fan of Juan Browne. Not just his aviation coverage but living in Northern CA his local coverage of significant events is excellent and actual old school objective journalism.

@ChandraSlyFoxPatey

9 ай бұрын

He’s a great person and does a really nice job breaking things down.

@A.J.1656

9 ай бұрын

He can be a bit self-righteous and overdramatic, but he's trying to be famous on youtube, so I can understand acting like that for showmanship. Remember when he announced to his youtube viewers that he wanted the Army to ground all Blackhawks? Lol

@catalyst6313

9 ай бұрын

@A.J.1656 I never got the impression of him being "self righteous" but sure he needs to make things informative and entertaining to be successful on any platform.

@doradosurfcharters

9 ай бұрын

​@ChandraSlyFoxPatey sorry about the lost of your best friends Mike and all you guys are awesome and I have watched every video you guys have ever produced even though I don't fly but friends build kit aircraft I watch them for the way Mike holds himself speaking and all of the enginuity and the house project looks great to 👍👍take it easy guys ❤

@colin-nekritz

9 ай бұрын

@@A.J.1656Juan has 50 times your experience with full-on military and commercial aviation so poop in your diaper all you want, you couldn’t even hold his aviators.

Truer words have NEVER been spoken... Mike Patey's words are to be respected and taken serious.. The courage to stay on the ground far supersedes the weakness it takes to be forced aloft by your own bad decisions.. Amazing speech.. Thank you Mike..

I saw Mike's incredible speech at the weekend after blancolirio linked to it (Juan was the other keynote speaker). This may well be one of the greatest speeches ever given on aviation safety. It comes from a place of profound loss but is so clear and logical at setting out the accident chains that lead to GA losses - so many of them down to personal judgment calls. It's a tough watch but a necessary one, and I am sure that it will save at least one, if not tens or hundreds of people, from experiencing the loss Mike is right now. Bravo.

Good job Mike. I came up through general aviation into the airlines. Retired now with over 30,000 hours. I no longer have the desire to fly and I watch videos like this, Juan Brown, Dan Grinder and ARFF and wonder why such a big increase in aviation accidents has taken place. Keep up the good work guys.

@TheJustinJ

9 ай бұрын

Its simply statistics and probabilities. There is no way to make the accident rate constant. Therefore it will ebb and flow from periods of less fatalities to peaks with many. They average out. One thing that is certain, people will continue to fly headfirst up a blind canyon, just to see where it ends. They will dive well past Va and pull up to show off to their friends just how to easy it is to lose their wings. They will continue to pull a tighter turn from base whenever they overshoot final. They never learn. All of this was covered in Stick and Rudder. Unfortunately, nobody reads it any more. (200k copies sold i 80 years, ~ 400k pilots at any given time).

@cessna177flyer3

8 ай бұрын

@gundogg55 The GA accident rate is at or near a historic low. Google AvWeb's excellent article "Is Accident Reporting Making Us All Crazy" for a deeper dive into the actual numbers.

I'm not an aviator but I used to ride motorcycles and absolutely agree with Mike, safety beats luck almost every time. Put another way, the more often you do things that could go sideways, the more likely you are to get hurt and the more likely you are to get hurt the more likely you are to have something happen that you do not walk away from. I knew better and more experienced folks who rode with me who aren't here anymore and it is always better to stay home if you have any serious doubts than to try your luck and find out your luck didn't hold. Your family and friends will be better for you being careful because they want you to come home as much as you want to be with them. It is one of the reasons I enjoy watching Mike's builds so much, because he plans and builds to increase safety and it makes the difference between never having a problem, or maybe having an exciting story and about a friend calling and saying, "hey, I had some bad news today, did you hear about..."

It's time for this honesty. Emotive and impassioned. Listen before you are the one tears are being shed for.

@imaner76

9 ай бұрын

Mike, grief is hard. Take time. Really, take time.

I'm not a pilot, yet this speech had me so invested in the discussion I hardly realized that an hour had passed. Great work, and this is invaluable knowledge if I ever persue my aviation interests.

Ya know Mike, I totally get stepping back a little bit and flying more conservatively after all that’s happened. For my part I come to your channel to see all that you put into your projects. I work in decorating and finishing homes, seeing all you’ve been doing with your pool project is just as fascinating to me. Keep it up!

Hi Mike, I’m a low time pilot. Got my license in the old school days you talk about 2003. Seen a flight instructor die and other close to home accidents. Struggles with this have kept me from flying as much as I wanted to. I still have the passion. I let those bad experiences stop me. You are right. It’s on us to make the right decisions.

You can see the emotion on Mike's face when he starts the speech, so many things going through his head while talking! What a good Man!

16years military aviation. “Knock it off” is always in the back of my mind. As a student pilot this is the kind of story that makes be feel maybe I’m not just paranoid.

@oisiaa

9 ай бұрын

Military aviation has a great safety culture (Air Force at least). I never felt pressure for calling it quits. My paycheck was safe no matter what. I'd rather not push my luck.

6:34 to see you fighting the emotions here Mike was heart wrenching. It is on us as pilots / students to maintain our knowledge just as much as it is to maintain our flying quals

Thanks for the upload Mike. I just want to give a shout-out to my Dad. More than 40,000 hours logged. He died of old age at home but that was thanks to his experience, his calm (not unlike a Test Pilot's) and God's nickname; Luck. He also was clever. Most of his hours were short to medium hops so he had far more landings and takeoffs than the WW2 Pilots who became commercial pilots later. He didn't get to have a 3 Strikes rule and so for instance; (in the early 1960's I think) got sent up on a hop through a hurricane which took the paint off the airplane. He also met and flew most of Joe Kennedy's children, including Jack and Jackie (but not at the same time). He flew rotary and fixed, single and twin (and none at all) and even rebuilt several aircraft, floats and even an aircraft from Plans. To top it off, he jumped from perfectly good ones. I was his youngest of a "small Catholic Family" so he found time for that as well. My story with him was a bit like a Cobbler's son with no shoes, I did learn to fly from him and am grateful for the knowledge he shared. That's where I will share the only part here that might be helpful to others (usually my comments are not personal) : Crosswinds. I've made the comment elsewhere before but to preface it this time: My father talked about "heavy winds being a go/no-go for lessons" yet as I stood in the kitchen and more than once, looked at a row of 60 foot pines getting their tops blown around, that was a "go" day. Well, all but one of them weren't bad in the Cessna he converted to Conventional Gear. Anyway, one day after lots of dual like that and having already soloed, he sent me again, alone to the airport to fly. I was shooting landings with a front, quartering wind, approximately 30 mph gusts (hard to remember now and I'm trying to avoid a fish story). The owner of a 186 was in the sky as well. He couldn't put it down (except twice) and had lots of excuses. Mostly "me", of course but all except one of my many touch and go's, we had no actual conflict in the pattern, not even close. The one that was felt forced by him, perhaps to bolster his reason(s) for not putting it down. I pondered it all for awhile and felt that wind is regional, not local and my father had done me a great favor.

@arcanondrum6543

9 ай бұрын

Oh and I forgot to mention that I landed full-stop, got back to the tie downs and watched this guy miss some more. Apparently a ghost aircraft was on the runway this time. He really did blame "an aircraft" when he was on another pass. The reason I came back to add that was to make it clear; he had the pattern and the runways to himself for a while.

What a fantastic speech Mike. They should make that required for pilots to watch every year.

sensei Patey is a LEGEND. amongst the greatest people in aviation circles.

I am not in aviation as a pilot BUT I sit in the back as a paramedic. My 17 year old daughter is interested in aviation. We have been up with a friend who is building hours. This was a geat help in what I will look for if she decides to do it. Thanks again all. Safe travels

@ChandraSlyFoxPatey

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for being willing to do one of the tough jobs!! All our best to your daughter in her endeavors.

@corey97140

9 ай бұрын

I’m an EMT that gave it up and dove into flight school this year. Case review after case review has painted a completely different picture of EMS both FW/Rotor. We used to joke about there being too many stars in the sky for the crew to fly. I won’t be doing that anymore. Total respect for turned down flights.

Thank you Mike for this speech. As a professional aviator, this is a great moment for me to take a step back look inward and continue to hone my craft, and operate well within the margin of safety for the days you don't realize you needed that margin. Great stories so sorry for the loss of your friends.

Knowing when not to fly, makes a good/safe pilot. Problem is that it`s harder than one might think.

Mike, I'm not a pilot, just enjoy anything with an engine - but you're one inspiring guy. Your stories and anecdotes really touched me. Thanks for sharing.

@video80634

9 ай бұрын

Ditto!

Sub 100 hour recreational pilot here from Australia. I've learned so much from watching Mike and Juan, and I believe I'm a far safer pilot for it. You are both the type of pilot that I aspire to be. Thank you gentlemen.

@larryehrlich57

9 ай бұрын

I flew cargo configurated MD-11'S into Australia around a dozen times from Hawaii. I even skydived 10 to 12 times with my oun gear in Australia...fun times. I also flew 10 years out of Nome Alaska. Retired in Florida and in my late 60's. I survived!

@patstevens2959

8 ай бұрын

Way to be Mike!!!!

So sorry to hear of his friends loss, Mike seemed visibly upset but still managed to get through that discussion in a professional manner, if his advice is taken seriously I am sure he’s going to save people’s lives, love your posts Mike keep up the good work!

I now know what it is like while loosing and engine with less than 60 seconds and 800 feet agl, had we loaded the plane without weighing and flight planning, I doubt I would be able to be here to write this comment. I continue to watch all these You Tubes, that we never had years ago along with the Flight Safety meetings. My incident was only a year ago, and fortunately We are all alive and now I am rebuilding the aircraft due to aircraft under insured. I have tried to get a hold of some of those who are exhibiting accidents and You Tubes like this to share my story, the passenger in the back seat was able to video the incident in its entirety, and it shows how quickly things happen. Fly with altitude !!

@ChandraSlyFoxPatey

9 ай бұрын

Glad you were able to get down safely.

There's a reason in so many industries and work places we have near miss reporting and have to show learning from it - and our HSE here asks to see those records early in investigations into fatal accidents. If you don't track them and learn from them, you don't stop doing the things that one day are going to kill you or someone else. Thanks for this talk Mike - if I am ever lucky enough to be able to fly (not so likely any more with my T2 diabetes but you never know) and I need to fly high plateau's I'll ask for some time with an experienced high plateau pilot first! The CFI question is a very pertinent one having seen other vids this week covering a recent incident where the CFI was a major contributing factor to a double fatality training flight.

*_What a moving speech mike. The amount of humbleness you displayed is touching. Best place to be is in a state of humbleness. Sorry about the losses. I certainly know what that feels like like._* Back to work! 🛩✈

LAST COMMENT . aft3r finding your channel ... the drive you have ... the loss ( ...... ) Lia Block does Pikes Peak in Ken's Legacy . NEVER STOP ! NEVER FORGET WHY YOU'RE STILL HERE . AND THANKYOU !!!! THANKYOU SO MUCH .

Thank you, Mike. Well done! In 13 months, I have lost 5 family members and 4 close friends. It really does bring into focus our priorities, and the ways in which we approach things such as the meticulous discipline of aviation, and nuances of the locations through which we fly. May you carry the souls of your friends with you every time you fly. CAVU skies and tailwinds, good soul 🙏🏼🕊️

Mark your story about the C172 icing up sounds exactly like my story in Montana mountains in 1978. 3 soles on board survived our daylight incident only with the help of God. We broke out of the clouds 75 feet over water still sinking and barely made a wrong way landing at an airport at the edge of the lake. Called center on the phone, but we listened to radio traffic about our deaths as we de-iced the aircraft inside a hanger.

@patheddles4004

9 ай бұрын

Yikes, that's gonna stay with you. Glad you did dodge that bullet.

I don’t fly…always wanted to and love flight! This hanger talk has been extremely interesting, informative and above all else this video should be watched by all pilots/aviators!! Thank you guys…all of you!! 💪🏻👍🏻😊

The one person loved by the entire world including myself. Mike patey is an, amazing, awesome individual. I ask the world to be like Mike.

Probably the most powerful video I've ever seen, you are a true inspiration Mike, everyone in aviation needs to take a leaf out of your book mate, I'm in awe❤

Excellent! We need more events like this across the country.

Super thankful for what you do in the industry. Super thankful you're making time for your kids and being a solid dad in amongst all the hobbies. Keep being real.

Thank you for bringing this to us, Mike. Sorry for your loss.

Everyone in GA should be made to watch this talk session. Brilliant,big thank you to you Juan and Mike.

Absolutely incredible Mike. I am sharing this with the instructors at my flight school. We need a lot more of this . Keep up the amazing work. Safe skies my friend 🇺🇸🛩️

I can feel the emotion in this video. Thank you so much for putting this out there for all to see.

Good on you Mike, this was a great talk. It's hard losing colleagues, so I know exactly how you feel. I am a (now retired) paramedic of 30 years. We were losing them to suicide at record rates, and I have personally lost 6 friends/colleagues. Bless you for this talk, for speaking out and speaking truth. My deepest condolences for your losses.

@getstuk87

9 ай бұрын

Hey man, I'm sorry for what you've gone through and your buddies. That's not easy. I hope you find your peace and the others find their way

@dougww1ectebow

9 ай бұрын

Thank you. What saddens me the most is that they suffered in silence and didn't talk to anyone. I and many ofhters would have GLADLy listened to them, and try to help.@@getstuk87

Thank you!! My condolences mike. Be safe everyone

I will be having my PPL checkride in 3 days. You, along other safety focused pilots in YT have given me so much insight and invaluable advise I would otherwise never gotten, I can't thank you enough for that. You're helping me become an extra safe pilot looking out for things you learn with experience. In Costa Rica flying is a challenge, the terrain is unforgiving, the weather can change on you in a blink of an eye, the temps are rarely ever just fresh...there's so much you have to look out for. DA is a challenge here as well, between the elevation, high temps and humidity... I'm taking your advise with me, and hope to never become complacent. Much love. Pura vida.

@getstuk87

9 ай бұрын

Lost my dad to DA issues in Reno airport back in 91. I was 4, sis was 6. It was a hard childhood and makes me eager to be a father one day to cherish the moments my dad and I wish we had. Fly safe guys, your kids are broken without you.

Mike I have the greatest respect and admiration for you and your brother. You have done so much for the world of aviation And a big thank you for the speech you just gave on safety a lot of pilots needed to hear what you had to say. My heart goes out to you for the friends you have lost love you guys

Thank you for sharing. Sorry for your losses. You’ve been an inspiration and are a one of a kind person.

Thank you Mike for being you.

Thank you for this Mike, hugely important reminder for us pilots. Those tough losses are incredible wake up calls for those of us still blessed to take to the skies. Rest in peace to those lost, blue skies. Be Safe everyone!

Hello from Minnesota! What a fantastic event! Thank you for always taking the time to advance aviation!!

This is such a powerful presentation. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on a difficult but terribly important subject. Hope to see you and Juan collaborate again in the future.

Was great to meet you in person. Thank you for sharing some stories about safety and ways we can be better pilots.

I've been following you for the house build but this speech captivated me. It's great to see someone as invested in something like this as you are. Inspirational and I gained even more respect for what you do, thanks for sharing. Now i need to go check out your other videos...

Fantastic video Mike. Praying for you and very sorry for your loss.

Sorry for your loss Mike condolences to all the families & friends. Be safe out there. RIP

I see you as always upbeat and happy and I enjoy seeing your enthusiasm and joy of life. Stay safe Mike, I’d miss seeing you!

We had 12 guys waiting for 6 days for the planes to fly. Bad wx. 6 days twiddling thumbs, staring at walls, going insane. Were we mad at the pilots for sitting on their butts for 6 days straight? Yes. Hearing from my buddys that everyone made it home to their loved ones instantly erased all that agony, boredom and stress. At that point I was so thankful to the pilots for sticking to their guns and not risking the anticipation that was building up each hour the planes were not in the air.

@ChandraSlyFoxPatey

9 ай бұрын

I’m proud of the pilots for sticking to their rules. Never any regrets there.

I hope to meet this man sooner than later! I love the way he operates / talks / shares with never even looking at a script... Almost all of this translates to life in general even if it is specific to aviation safety... Thanks MIke!!! Thought I had already sub'd, but am definitely ALL'ing it now..

Awesomely informative talk. I'd be willing to bet that you definitely saved some lives in the near future. WELL DONE !!! Huge condolences on the loss of your good friends.

Good to see Juan and Mike together. Hey thanks to everyone involved in this. Appreciate the safety training.

Best on their journeys. Thanks for your wisdom, humor, and sharing those stories.

Very powerful message Mike. Praying for you while you're missing your friends and dealing with their tragic losses.

Mike, you are such a gift to all of us. I like to personally thank you and am happy about aviation content frpm you. Would be great having you covering more safety tasks and doing more aviation content again. I also cannot wait to participate another build. Hope pool is fine soon 😂

Mike that was the most heartfelt and riveting talk! Your humility and authenticity is second to none. Thank you for inspiring us all!

Thank you Mike for the Reminder it will probably save some lives that you may never hear the story on them, Blessings Brother for you and your family and All of us out here coming and going on our paths.

Thank you Mike. Great video. Thank you for being open and transparent. You can really see your passion and sincerity for the safety of your fellow pilots.

Thanks for posting this. I think about becoming a pilot at times but this is important to hear. I work as an A&P at one of those big airlines and take for granted those giant bleed air deicing systems you were talking about. Thanks for shining some light on this topic. Sorry for your loss.

I feel the same way Mike. Aviation is such a love of mine. Even though I don't fly. Aviation is such an unforgiving thing when you don't respect it.There is no room for complacency or carelessness or even just pushing your luck. One must be ready to make the hard call to not fly when things are in the "strike" catagory.

What an incredible talk. This is one hell of an aviator and one hell of a guy. Mike Patel is one solid dude.

@zachansen8293

9 ай бұрын

"This is one hell of an aviator" Draco begs to differ.

For the gentleman asking about the 10,000 hr pilot who has problems. It is important to distinguish between the pilot who has 10,000 hours of experience and the pilot who has one hour 10,000 times!

Thank you Mike for sharing your knowledge, experience, vulnerability and authenticity. I appreciate your perspective as a foundation of best practices. I’m just learning about you and look forward to learning more and learning from you. Blessings on your healing brother. ❤️‍🔥

You’re a good man. Sorry for your losses. Thanks for sharing. I am in no way involved in avionics but really enjoy watching you and your videos. You are an inspiration. Thank you!

What a great chat with like minded aviators. Thank you all.

Thank you Mike, praying for peace for you and for the families of those lost. My son is getting ready to graduate high school and he’s going to an aviation school to become a commercial pilot. We love your videos but we also appreciate everything you do for aviation.

It's a bliss to hear Mike talk about his current and future projects. God bless!🛩

Thank you Mike! It's been a rough time and we appreciate your call to safety!