The problem that the majority of guitars don’t understand is it what do you hear on the album or CD or any recording not what was coming out of the amp. It’s filtered through a microphone and threw a mixing console and a bunch of filters any cues and that’s what the mix engineer, decide to mix it down to to make it work in the mix so re-creating the sound from a recording from your amp is a pretty pointless exercise.

@alejandroperez8285

3 күн бұрын

But for people that use amp sims like for example Amplitube 5, it's a pretty good exercise trying to figure out what amp, with what cab, speakers and microphones was a track recorded with. Then you gotta mess around with the mic positions, then eq's, etc

Oh noooooooo, I've been looking for one of these Peavey Musician 400s recently and now the prices are gonna quadruple, lmao!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

I doubt this will make the prices to skyrocket unless it goes viral. And I don’t think it will 🥸

@BockwinkleB

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos they have been 250-300 on reverb for years now, but the shipping is nuts. Best to find one in the wild if you can.

EVM12Ls are wonderful, heavy speakers. I toured with a pair for a few years. They "opened up" in the middle of a show, and the drummer and I both just stared at each other in amazement. They're fantastic.

A Peavey Musician is a killer amp. That was the one amp that could go from surf/spaghetti western cleans to Black Sabbath dirt and everything in between well. Not just meh or ok but well.

I've played guitar and bass in various projects over the years. One of the coolest sounding guitar rigs I've ever used ended up being my Ampeg SVTIII Pro bass head into a single 15" ported bass cab. The Ampeg provided a massive amount of clean power into the 15 and was a great platform for my guitar pedal board. Anything in front of that amp just sounded huge and super clean no matter the level. It's always fun to try things that don't initially make sense.

@sneifert1968

10 ай бұрын

My first rig in the 80’s was a 100W Yamaha solid state head and a JBL PA speaker that had a three way crossover that you could cut or boost the db by 10db. I used a cheap Jordan distortion pedal and a DOD chorus. Very good for rock and that 80’s Tom Shultz tone

@vorpalblades

9 ай бұрын

I've been playing through a Hartke Transient Attack 4×10 cab with aluminum drivers for 24 years. All of my amps sound great through it.

The tight attack and compression of solid state I think is great for that "right infront of your face" dry effect.

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

yup

My old band had a very early Peavey Solid state PA head. It was so early that it had pencil marks on the chassis used to indicate where to punch holes into the chassis during the manufacturing process. I tried it out with my guitar one time, turned up to the point of distortion. It gave an interesting sound with usable distortion, but it was also very one-dimensional sounding compared to my tube amp. I could see that it could be useful for recording because it would occupy a little different space in the spectrum, such that it would have some presence without having to be turned up so loud in the mix. It was not the least bit inspiring when played clean.

@resistor27

9 ай бұрын

I used one of those for years. Although mine was from the late ‘70s, early ‘80s, with quite a variety of pedals it sounded great.

I just turned 70 and when i was in my 20's I had a Peavy musician 400 head with 2 baffles with 4 12-inch Jenson speakers in each. Best amp I ever played on, and I've played on Fender Champ, Kustom and others. Sometimes ran it thru the Board, sometime i wouldn't, also would face speakers backwards

“This is not a QOTSA video” goes on to talk about the Peavy Decade, talk about QOTSA and play “Know One Knows” 😂 I love you man

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

haha ;)

Alot of guitar tomes cannot be replicated outside of the studio because many guitars are double/triple tracked as well as other studio specific tricks.

@dw7704

10 ай бұрын

A lot of effects pedals were designed to try & replicate those studio tricks Some are more successful, some less so. So, yeah some studio tricks can’t be done to sound the same. Of course that introduces us to even more pedals that do their own thing.

@frankwebster9110

10 ай бұрын

@dw7704 yup. For a very long time I understood that it's impossible to get the same sounds I heard on records just sitting in front of my amp. I think that might be changing as you said. I believe there's a pedal that will double your signal, but I don't know the name of it right off. Technology is definitely getting better for people with home studios and the like.

@dw7704

10 ай бұрын

@@frankwebster9110 The TC Electronics Ditto pedal will do that

@ThomasL

10 ай бұрын

A lot of people don't understand how much matters Mic choices, AND placement. Also, most of engineers will tell you, don't try to capture a tone that pleases your for real. Just make it sound divine through your monitoring spreakers (a good one eh). Also, obviously, Speakers choices in the 2x12" matters. I've stopped using SM57's for guitar tone years ago (because for me they are absolute cr*p for that use) and then, finally found my tone by dealing with mics placements (took me hours to actually find it, but definitely worth it).

@frankwebster9110

10 ай бұрын

@ThomasL so true. I'm swapping out my vintage 30s for G12 65 Heritages at the moment. The V30's are pretty standard for rock but that mid push from them doesn't work for everything I like. I'm hoping the celestion G12 65's will do what I want. If that doesn't pan out I'm going to try some jbl's

Nice, I'd do a stereo split for the low-mids and the mid-highs and roll those two channels through their own 32-band EQ. That way the output of the two tones can be run through their own amp and speaker cabinet. Well, that is if you really want to get rid of all the mud.

OMG….the Peavey Musician was my first “real” amp….LOL. It took me a few years to finally have the sense to sell it as a church band guitarist sold me his pre CBS Deluxe Reverb, all original with cover for $200 in 1980! (Yes…I still have it with a ‘66 Princeton Reverb and ‘65 Vibrochamp). Thanks for reminding me of that nightmare and GREAT job on the video.

i have the matching Bass 400 peavey bass head with its 1 15 cab (black widow speaker blown ages ago) fun fuzz tones from it on guitar.

The Musician and Standard are killer. Check out a Traynor TS100 and a Kasino Little Walter

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

will do!

That Keeley pedal paired with that amp setup is killer. Very nice!

An amp I bet you like for this driving style is the 1964 Gibson Skylark. It's such a reactive little beast with it's own crunch. I played a BC Rich Warlock with a bolt on neck through Skylark. It made it's own distortion, but I used an original MUTRON Phasor II pedal and a JAX WAH FUZZ. I didn't use the fuzz through that amp, but later I played it on the massive FUZZ II setting through a 50 Watt Sound City 50 watt head.

So glad I had my studio monitors on for this one! Sonics and visuals; always top notch!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

The peavey musicians are great amps. I recommend the Windsor as well which is a tube jcm 800 copy that you can find for very cheap. Also! Do you ever get into sunn gear? You can get some really great huge tones out of any of those amps

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried any Sunn amps yet. Would love to though!

Awesome video, love seeing other peoples journey to find their own tone

The Ampeg sounded killer.

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

✌🏻

A local shop has a vintage '79 Peavey CENTURY 200H head for freakin' $160! Tempted!!!!

In the late '70s I had an Ampeg VT-22 loaded with Altec-Lansing 12s. It was a monster amp. I played in a band with another guitarist who had a full Marshall 100W, 8x12 stack. The VT-22 had no problem keeping up. It was a brutal amp - not just in decibels, but also to haul around. Without exception, it was the heaviest amp I've ever owned. Earlier in the '70s I had an Ampeg V-4 head paired with two 2x12 cabs that were loaded with EVM12L speakers. Both were great sounding amps, but I'm glad I don't have to haul that stuff around any more! I'm too old for that stuff...

As far as the results go; the left audio tone sounded great, and the right audio tone sounded great. they sounded very similar but also different enough to have a nice dynamic. im ready to hear the songs now

The best BIG solid state Transistor amp I ever played was a Vox Viscount. If I ever find a mint one it is getting bought

I ran a JCM900 and JC120 together back in the day, very different result to this. But the sonic space occupied by the 2 very different amps worked really well. there's a lot to be said for that approach if you're looking for a less standard tone.

@aeoteroa818

9 ай бұрын

not a single person to listen to your music will give a fuck about your dual amp setup.

@samdavidson7022

9 ай бұрын

Nick McCabe from the Verve used a similar approach on A Storm In Heaven (which is phenomenal by the way) with a JC120 and a Mesa Boogie MK3 and it sounds huge

the standard is also great for doing parallel gain staging, or summed "stereo" stuff. split with a delay or stereo reverb, have drive on the reverb side and clean on the dry side, and it sums those to a single cab. i also do this with PA heads, either peavey or 70s fenders. the peavey is much louder, or at least much harder to dial down to stage volume, it gets louder all the way up the master volume knob, whereas a tube PA head tops out at around 6 and sounds perfect at about 3 master with both channels used dimed all the way out still accepting pedals well. carvin made a solid state guitar amp in the late 70s that has the most pleasant roll-off highs i've ever experienced. one issue, especially when recording, is that you can get an odd order harmonic when pushing the preamp too hard. very similar to hitting the drive side of a roland cube too hard with a ts or klon. live, this is both easy to dial out, and it kind of goes away in a room if you aren't close-micing the cab, it's that subtle... but it can sound real nasty otherwise.

My, my, my ... all us poor tone-chaser guys. I read just days ago that jazz great Wes Montgomery never achieve his target tone, though I suspect he we have found success had he not died at age 45 of a heart attack. You just nailed yours -- Congratulations! Your story reminds me of my own, which involved a Peavey PA bass head run through a PA tower (of all things). This weird setup yielded an unbelievable clean tone that I have yet to surpass. Of late, though, I believe that I have found several ways in which to match that tone in quality, if not outright outdo it. I'm not sure that I still remember it well enough to replicate it at this point; I was in my twenties then, while my last birthday way my sixty-fifth. Do I need to, though? I've hit many good tones in the meantime. They did well enough at the time. Besides, as I like to say: The greatest part of any art is knowing when to stop.

I prefer the Ampeg over the Friedman. The transistor sound was incredible!

Bought a Musician years ago and restored it. Finding and buying the original knobs cost me more than the amp!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

haha! How do you like the amp?

@BockwinkleB

10 ай бұрын

I love it, just can't crank it where I am now. I run it through an attenuator and a 2 notes at the same time to lower the volume.

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

do you need the attenuator when you use a Two Notes, though?

@BockwinkleB

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos technically the 2 notes is only rated for 100 watts, the Musician is 200 Watts, so I do it just to be safe.

It’s all about the speakers, well at least 99% because everything before them is filtered through them.

It would be interesting to see this A/B’d with Guitar rig or a similar plugin. I think I’ve gotten pretty close to Homme’s tone by layering 4 amps in the demo version of guitar rig 5. Very doable without any physical gear but obv still really cool to see the kit and very nice vid

@JohnDaubSuperfan369

9 ай бұрын

Anyone with a functioning pair of ears can squeeze *any* tone out of plug-ins these days, it's just that most guitarists don't seem to have functioning ears and "listen" with their eyes instead.

lol i was focused on the guitar while you were playing and then i look at your face and notice that i'm making the same face. stinky tone i think i've been looking for a tone like that too, i guess its what we like about homme's tone. the closest i got is by using two parallel amps , one with a lot of compressed distortion and another one with a very clean overdrive. similar to what you do in this video i guess but this sound really amazing.

I fucking love this guitar sound so much

Amazing shots during the voiceovers, how did you pull them off? Gimbal or just handheld? Great work!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

thanks! Gimbal, yes!

@StuffnSuch

10 ай бұрын

Yes, very beautiful shots. Reminds me of the shot pulling out of the trash can in Fight Club, which was CGI.

That was wicked awesome sir! Congrats!!!!

Sounds like rock and roll to me! Now I have to go and see if any of my IR cabinets on my Captor X have EVM12Ls.

A VT-22 wouldn't have had Celestions from the factory, more like CTS speakers. Not sure if they offered Altecs as an option (they did offer them as an option for the V4 4x12 cabinet). A friend of mine bought a used VT-22 in the late '70s and it was loaded with Gauss speakers. It was a beast and a very heavy one at that!

Evm12l are the best speakers. My personal fav are the black labels (300 watt version). I wish they didn’t weigh so much so I could load my 412 with them and not add almost 80 lbs in speakers alone.

I liked the Peavey tone the best

this is so inspiring! thanks Eirik for sharing this with us

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

@hoppes9658

9 ай бұрын

Garbage sound.

Yeah, that sounds really good. Congratulations!

so many of my favorite heavy guitarists use SS. It's the only choice for this kind of ultra saturated, yet attacky punch. Jimmy Bower, for instance.

Have fun in your quest of the Graiel. It sounds huge....

broooo, i have now seen this video like 2 dozens times not kidding, you *just* nailed this exact tone! and kudos to your video quality and production style! now, i'm also chasing this kind of tone and would like to have a more portable and more gigable version of that, sth like a 1x12 cab with the evm speaker. do you have any recommendations or tips what amp i could take in place of the peavey musician? it doesn't need to be a perfect subsitute, just wondering what direction i could go on my tone journey. also thougt of getting a kemper, tho a good bit on the pricey side, but i like that experementation mentality you mentioned in one of ur other vids. thanks and much love from germany!

Dude that outro jam was sick. Great vid as usual 🤘🤘🤘

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

I have a Musician that’s works but I cant blend the channels like Im supposed to. I have to break into it and fix it. Sounds Amazing.

Them freidman amps are just good...u cant go wrong with them.

You need an old school Peavey Rockmaster 4 tube - 3 channel preamp. That thing is Gold ! Nothing comes close to this crazy premap, than a Mesa Boogie Quad preamp.

@moksja667

9 ай бұрын

I have mine for almost 25 years now. It was a crucial part of my sound. Affordable but i had lots of problems with it until it was modified by a good tech.

I listen to a lot of Doom gear channels, and this was recommended to me. Nice setup 👍 however, “brutal” in the title made it somewhat comedic. Brutal is achieved by running typically stacked distortion, Muffs, Rats, FZ-2 (SF300), HM-2 and countless offshoots into a high headroom amp, Mat Amp, Orange, Sunn Model-T. The most brutal tone is arguably by Electric Wizard, check Return Trip and Dopethrone.

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, trying some different titles for this one. The amp is kind of brutal to be in the room with.

Ev drivers are works of art visual and auditory

That was a dope jam dude, thanks for the vid!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Bravo! Awesome tone!

We need a tone chase of "In times new roman" tones

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Not sure... I can't get into that album. Tried at least 10 times now.

@paweposrednik5548

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos whaaaaaat?????? You crazy

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

@@paweposrednik5548 seems like the fan base is quite divided on it. I guess fans of Villains are more prone to liking ITNR, but I didn't like Villains either so...

@paweposrednik5548

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos I guess so, but I'm a weird fan, my favs are clockwork and era vulgaris. I like when they are twisted and crazy, so itnr is my jackpot

Wow, those EVMs are transparent. I've wondered what they'd sound like with an ampeg. You definitely need to know how to dial in an amp if you use them

@jasondorsey7110

10 ай бұрын

EV's sound like partway between a guitar speaker and a pa driver in how they're so transparent and wide frequency, but if you like what they do, they work well with a huge variety of amps

home run!!!

Amazing tone. What is the brown guitar and gold pickups at the end of the video?

@LivingroomGearDemos

7 ай бұрын

PureSalem La Bruja!

Love the sound of these :)

Nicely shot video.

You can literally get that sound off a Line 6 Spider 3 lol

randy use peveay bass head and ampeg gabinet with altec lansing speakers.

Randy Rhoads used it before Marshall, in the Quiet Riot years

This sounds so good, and that song rocks hard. I put headphones on to hear all of that tone up close. Is this song streaming anywhere, like Spotify?

@LivingroomGearDemos

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Nope, only in this video

Great stuff! Thank you.

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

That is a VERY GOOD guitar sound.

You should start listing the riffs you play in the description or comments.

You can also get some Red Fang on that sound.

Can anybody tell me how to make the fuzz and reverb to work i cant find the pedal to engadge it anywhere i find the fuzz sounds like its in the background

Really nice!

Great video! Were you using a clean sound on the amp or an already distorted channel? I really like the fuzzy quality of the sound, I was wondering if that's from the amp (considering it has a fuzz) or the pedal

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

The amp was driven a bit before pushing it with the pedal. No fuzz involved

Can you do kyuss tones on the katana? Preferably "welcome to sky valley" tones please!

I bet that set up pushes so much air.

I want that Fano!!

Welp, glad I got an ev12L and 12s dated to the 80s before the price hike 🤣

Peavey= Perfectly Effective And Viable Equipment Yall RIP Spanky

How many ohms was the cab wired to?

Sounds like The Hives !

Kinda sounds like my Special 130

What is the song you're playing at 4:38? By the way gorgeous panning shots during the intro, Hollywood level, I half expected to see Jack Black sleeping shirtless on a mattress somewhere

@LivingroomGearDemos

6 ай бұрын

Qotsa - No one knows. And thanks man!

@ImpostorModanica

6 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos I remembered something with knows in the name! Cheers

That tone matches QOTSA. So does your hair and skin tone.😊

What was that red guitar in the outro?

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

PureSalem Guitars La Bruja. It's pink 💖

A matter of taste, obviously, but I think the Friedman sounded the best. Great mix though!

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

I don't disagree with that. But the Musician has a unique character that I haven't found in other amps.

What did you spray on the speakers before you placed on the speaker cover?

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Secret sauce…

@WyattBrown377

10 ай бұрын

Looks like air

@alexandrecapelier

10 ай бұрын

Yes, cleaning up dust before placing the grid

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

@@alexandrecapelier correct

Nice work❤

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

thanks!

Pretty sure you could get that sound with just a trashy old Gorilla practice amp miked in the right way. Can't wait until some rock god says how much they like Gorilla practice amps and all of a sudden they're worth 2 grand on reverb!

Sound reminds me of Scorpions - Sails Of Charon :D

What is that tape? Asking for a friend (actually lol)

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Heat insulation tape!

@therewasascene

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemosI’m not coming at you with a question without watching the video like a ding dong :) I meant the brand/where you got it

@Butternose

10 ай бұрын

I’m sure there are many products that work. Having worked manufacturing boxes, we used rolls of high density foam weather strip.

Lool sounds like DOD gunslinger to me

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

Been a while since I've tried that pedal. You even have a profile picture of it! You like it that much, eyh?

dude get a nutdriver for the 1/4" jack

I'm curious. What were you spraying the speaker cabinet with?

@LivingroomGearDemos

9 ай бұрын

just blowing away dust with a dust blower

@oyemimelaza

9 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemos Oh! That makes sense! LOL Gotta keep the gear fresh. :)

Meh... it doesn't really sound like that sound. There is a pedal that does it really well now.

Well tat was disappointing! 😂😂😂

Sir, are you Josh Homme's son?

GUITAR FACE

Those amps were all over in the 70’s, only because they were cheap. Lousy amplifiers!

Ffs, why do you make me re think my whole guitar amp set up 🤦🏻 and I just spent a load more money!

Junk

sounds terrible

@LivingroomGearDemos

9 ай бұрын

👍🏻

I feel like this is exactly what P90’s out of a small (

I have a very important question that needs answered by 3:30pm Friday. Is the Ampeg SVT 200 T as good as the Ampeg VT 22? Does it have that queens of the storage sound to it? I have an opportunity to buy them both at a very cheap deal an idw to make the wrong decision. PLEASE PLEASE answer this question for me

@LivingroomGearDemos

5 ай бұрын

Hey, the SVT 200 T is a bass amp and the VT22 is a guitar amp. They are quite different, I would go for the VT22 for the Queens sound.

what's the name of the song? 5:17

@LivingroomGearDemos

10 ай бұрын

No song, just something I played for the video

@beingmadrocks

10 ай бұрын

@@LivingroomGearDemosscrolled through looking for the name of the song too, you’re on to something there by the looks of things!