Use mayo as a coolant. I want to see if an instrument would cool a cpu properly.

@Rakshasa1986

7 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks. I bought it on Amazon.

@ANAKINO2000

7 жыл бұрын

mayo works well as thermal paste

@razerr7802

7 жыл бұрын

No mars, mayonnaise is not an instrument!

@baneblackguard584

7 жыл бұрын

you're just not playing it right...

@spacekraken666

7 жыл бұрын

Razerr, it only works if you have russian windows installed

Liquid Nitrogen, just for shits and gigs.

@musaabhasan6450

7 жыл бұрын

Dylankobe24 There is actually a liquid nitrogen community. Some people do it.

@catsmoo6370

7 жыл бұрын

Dylankobe24 that's what pro overclockers use for world records

@thalessousa5493

7 жыл бұрын

Inside a closed loop it'll simply evaporate, expand and explode the tubes.

@Dylankobe24

7 жыл бұрын

I'm aware that the "pro's" use it, I just want to see destruction.

@catsmoo6370

7 жыл бұрын

Thales Sousa yeah closed loops don't work, they put a jar of some sort directly on the CPU and pour it in manually

It's not a bad idea if you are in Siberia, and you often leave your PC outside overnight, and need to start it without waiting for it to thaw-out...

@karlomoharic3992

5 жыл бұрын

why the hell do you leave it outside ?

@J4rj4r81nx

5 жыл бұрын

For some time I thought it'd be interesting to overclock a PC and see if the -40℃ winter weather can passively cool it. lolz Maybe I'll do that with my current rig? ...when I finally get around to building a new one.

@anders2821

5 жыл бұрын

well if there is enough airflow around it it should work, but you still need a proper passive cooler for that since the heat has to go away from the actual cpu

@EA_47_

5 жыл бұрын

you wont need water cooling in that weather air cooling is way more than enough

@notmadeofpeople4935

5 жыл бұрын

I have an overclocked pc up against a drafty window.

The "reaction" at the beginning is just the remaining water in the system mixing with the ethylene glycol.

@benmcreynolds8581

4 жыл бұрын

I had that thought but wasn't exactly sure

@FREAAAAAK97

4 жыл бұрын

yeah on the bottle stands do not add water

@prpredatorz310

4 жыл бұрын

@@FREAAAAAK97 That's because it was a 50/50 mix. There are some bottles of antifreeze you need to mix with water. You should optimally have a 50/50 mix.

@nimmen

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, It was just the distilled water floating up to the top because the coolant is just so slightly heavier than water.

@Baubette

3 жыл бұрын

@@nimmen yes, ethylene glycol will sink in water as it is denser and we can observe that. At the same time it diffuses in the water since both are miscible, as this happen the refraction index of the mixture changes. This causes the effect we see, it happens everytime two different miscible liquids are mixed, it even happens if you mix hot and cold water together. Fun fact, it is the same effect you see when you look at a hot road or a hot pan and you see the "heat" emanating from it.

I used antifreeze to cool my car...

@soxfansince97

7 жыл бұрын

Pienimusta Antifreeze isnt designed to have better cooling ability than water. You can put plain water in your car, and it will work fine as a coolant. The only problem is if it freezes, it could damage your car. Thats the only reason it's necessary.

@rarbona

7 жыл бұрын

Right? This girl at works radiator leaked all summer. She constantly topped off with antifreeze, in 90 degree weather..... I tried my best to explain, but would never believe me she could use the hose. Probly spent a fortune....

@Edmo96

7 жыл бұрын

... but then i took an arrow to the knee.

@jeffplays6886

7 жыл бұрын

To be clear, you're using water to cool your car, the anti-freeze is to widen the temperature range it remains liquid and prevent corrosion.

@Rave_game9310

7 жыл бұрын

Russ Andrew it also helps with boil temps some engines that are verry high performance can boil the fluid if it is just water

The point of antifreeze isn't to cool, it's to control freezing, boiling and corrosion. Water is a better coolant. That's why antifreeze is mixed with water.

@xex2kok

7 жыл бұрын

He obviously knows this, and is why he didn't want to do the video. He just decided to listen to the idiots on youtube and prove them wrong. Everyone thinks they know something on here.

@SchwererGustav800mm

7 жыл бұрын

The use of antifreeze is to stop bacterial infection not the cooling. And it works just fine never use more then a 1/10 mixture though.

@xex2kok

7 жыл бұрын

You use silver for that kappa. You don't need to put extra chemicals in there.

@fatal3713

7 жыл бұрын

😩Antifreeze is mixed with water to raise the boiling point and lower the freezing point

@ayporos

7 жыл бұрын

Ya. Because water freezes at 0c, which is bad if that's all up in your cooling system while the outside temps are below 0c. Oils, like the one used in anti-freeze, generally have a lower freezing point and thus allowing your coolant to remain liquid at sub 0c temperatures. It doesn't cool as well as water, but it still cools better than Ice that doesn't flow and constricts your system. :D

No joke, Jay. I just did a new loop for my system. This time around I'm using EK cryofuel because I wanted my liquid to be clear, but before that I tried something new and I ran Antifreeze and distilled at a 9:1 ratio and I have to say, I'm super impressed. I took my CPU block apart and not a single trace of buildup and I ran the liquid for a year. As I said, I'm using cryofuel this time around because I was sick of the green haze my liquid had, but if this doesn't work, I may just return to the antifreeze and water mixture as it ran like a champ for so long. Just reporting in and letting you know!

@metta116

Жыл бұрын

Bruh what 2000 iq play is that

@scotts-tech

10 ай бұрын

I'm hesitant to use antifreeze but Liquid Utopia is only so good and it's definitely not worth $15 for a 15ml bottle considering you're supposed to mix that 15ml bottle in with 1 gallon of distilled water which is $7.50 per coolant change. In 8 years of having a water loop, I had to replace 1 copper radiator due to corrosion and that was even with changing the water every ~6 months. Antifreeze is $15 for a gallon jug of concentrate, it's just a question of whether it works better than Liquid Utopia or not. I'm using that pvc braided fda approved tubing instead of pc watercool tubing because hopefully it has better chemical resistance as advertised. O-rings, the reservoir and part of my cpu waterblock could still get degraded by the antifreeze. I saw this recipe on the internet for a homemade corrosion inhibitor one time that I've lost the source to but basically the guy used sodium molybdate and benzotriazol to make something that held off corrosion on aluminum and copper in salt water for longer than liquid utopia did. I'm running an experiment with stainless steel, copper, aluminum in bottles of distilled water and different corrosion inhibitors including antifreeze but of course it will be a long time before I see any results.

@wuspoppin6564

8 ай бұрын

So how was it? Tell us!

@scotts-tech

8 ай бұрын

@@wuspoppin6564 I wasn't able to acquire benzotriazole to make my own corrosion inhibitor. The only viable listing for it on amazon sold out by the time I was ready for it. However in my experiment, green ethylene glycol antifreeze has performed better than liquid utopia. The copper is already shinier in the antifreeze solution than in the liquid utopia solution and it's only been a month. The aluminum in the liquid utopia is already starting to darken and corrode. The aluminum in the antifreeze is still shiny. The stainless steel fittings in both is still shiny with no signs of corrosion. Once enough time has passed for the results to be more obvious on camera, maybe I'll make a video about it.

@goose_dumps

7 ай бұрын

@@scotts-tech Don't hesitate to share the results when you got them.

But did Windows freeze?

@jjhack3r

5 жыл бұрын

They used antifreeze. It stop all freezing...

@ettorecaruso3778

5 жыл бұрын

Only if you pour it on your boot drive

@badprogrammerbp7758

4 ай бұрын

it would've froze with water

5:22 "My tube is flopping around" and you didn't make a joke? I'm very disappointed Jay.

@silver_

7 жыл бұрын

This is how you know he really didn't give two shits this video.

@coinsagE46m3

7 жыл бұрын

+jlrockafella I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're joking.

@sinnison23

7 жыл бұрын

+coinsagE46m3 You may be very disappointed, this is the internet after all.

@computerboy9766

7 жыл бұрын

NOT SURE IF JOKING, OR JUST CONFUSED. lol

@moemoe48210

7 жыл бұрын

im dead

*Next on JayzTwoCents: "I used my Piss to cool a PC"* As always great video Jay!

@QCpowarr

7 жыл бұрын

Bear Grylls Special?

@myze3950

7 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@andersl.359

7 жыл бұрын

science bitch!!

@darkphoenix7225

7 жыл бұрын

I think it would cause corrosion from the acid in piss xD idk

@BiecherBender

7 жыл бұрын

Bear:"Jo Jay, can you build me a slick custom PC?" Jay:"Sure, we should use your piss as a coolant." Bear:"That's a great idea!"

The "reaction" is the coolant mixing with water. For me as a Car mechanic it normal to see that because I have to dilute this stuff myself depending on the expected lowest temperature in the winter...

@NemoConsequentae

6 ай бұрын

Just the different densities of the coolant & distilled water as the less dense water is rising & mixing.

"I kinda wanted to see catastrophic failure, I'm sorry." - Need more of that guy!

I've been running a bit of anti-freeze in the loop to prevent corrosion, to act as a lubricant, and to act as an antimicrobial for a couple years. I've never had a problem with soft tubing or or other plastics.

@KainYusanagi

7 жыл бұрын

depends entirely on the plastics, as he notes.

@zagan1

7 жыл бұрын

Jason Gregory , yeah I don't think it'd cause any problems as you have rubber and plastic pipes already in a car. it won't drop Temps because it's just destilled water and ethenol, you can get temp dropping coolant for cars and race cars that should drop Temps though. some of those drop Temps down by 10 degrees.

@haraldhimmel5687

7 жыл бұрын

The plastic in your car is specifically chosen to withstand getting eaten away by antifreeze. Some soft tubing used here might not compare at all.

@SchwererGustav800mm

7 жыл бұрын

I use Car antifreeze since 10 years and still have the same pump from then no problems. That Jay uses a 1/1 mixture straight out of the bottle shows already that he doesn't know what he is talking about, never use more then a 1/10 mixture...

@Slot1Gamer

7 жыл бұрын

There is no need to use a thick mixture of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol, this is a low temp application and all it is doing is acting as a growth inhibitor. Which is why using a 1/10 or 5% mix is all that's needed.

600,000 views and $16 is over budget

@_faultee_

7 жыл бұрын

Gotta afford a GTR somehow.

@breezyjr

7 жыл бұрын

In his defense, he did say over budget for "this" video... Which could be anything... He could start, and say the budget for this video is, $4. Which would put $16 over budget...

@NetherPrime

7 жыл бұрын

for such a shitty video? yeah id say $16 is over budget, sure it probably netted him more than enough but it still is a shitty idea.

@sinatraforeign

7 жыл бұрын

Redredret Well, he got $30 for the video anyway (if he monetize it) it should be more, but Wall street journal made advertiser pull their ads from KZread.

@YoloMonstaaa

7 жыл бұрын

Also the master case ad got him money

I used an antifreeze coolant mix with my CORSAIR Nautilus 500 Complete External Liquid Cooling Sytem for at least 3 years running 24/7. Better heat transfer as well.

@Zfast4y0u

Жыл бұрын

it didnt damage the plastics on the water block of ur gpu??

@jblob5764

4 ай бұрын

​​@@Zfast4y0u Why would it? It's made to be safe for all materials found in a cooling system. Steel, iron, aluminum, copper and Plastics. And there are many different coolant formulas these days, many oems specify a specific mix for their vehicles

Ignore the corrosion crap, PLENTY cars (im a mechanic) come into the shop with plastic on the top of the radiator. plastic thermostat housings. many rubber orings specifically water pump. many different metals the headgaskets often have copper /aluminum/ steel most bearings are made of brass, copper, aluminum etc. like i said already 6 years strong on anti-freeze, no issues WHATSOEVER. did you know the anti freeze also works as a lubricant on your water pump? THUS - lubricating your.. pc...water... pump ? for lack of better words LOL literally i have suggested this for so long. ive been watercooled since about 2009. after a couple years of fiddling and farting with my setup i no longer cared to replace black light strips (UV) no longer cared to replace fans and color match everything. didnt care if my tubes glowed or not.. now i keep it simple. i picked a cool color anti-freeze, diluted the crap out of it and got a reservoir and whatnot that matched.

@MrMojabo

6 жыл бұрын

yep dilute the antifreeze and add it in, it will turn a bit brown but no biggie,, I also find the fluorescent green very cool with my lights,,, when turn brown and glow goes away still good change it if u want. i probably add ten to twenty percent

@dannyipwn1203

6 жыл бұрын

So, Water pumps have bearings, and bearings have seals! there is also a seal protecting the bearing itself! Water pumps have a WEEP hole to alert you when this hidden seal has failed. allowing coolant directly onto the bearing itself. which quickly breaks ITS seals down, and dont allow the bearing to reach the end of its target life span. Not rocket science here or anything. YES coolant lubricates seals, bearings, etc. its what it is designed to do

@russmanYT

6 жыл бұрын

hope i never need to take a car in to your shop...the weep hole is there to let you know the seal hasfailed, water is ALREADY getting in, its life span is essentially done at that point, more or less. the fluid in the coolant system of a vehicle doesn't lubricate anything...its designed to transfer heat out of the engine to the radiator and heater core, each and every bearing its close to is sealed...the last thing you want getting into one is water brah

@joeyhillers9460

6 жыл бұрын

Why were you farting with your pc? That is something that I cannot figure out. Or was it indicating something else😉

@streamtabulous

5 жыл бұрын

bingo. plus if he had black light in the build it would glow :)

Use alcohol

@dragancrnogorac3851

7 жыл бұрын

-CLM15- and when run out of VOTKA just drink your lupe liquid

@Robmanian

7 жыл бұрын

:)))

@Jack-dc2rv

7 жыл бұрын

alcohol will likely evaporate over time, plus its not great on the plastics

@Jeffrey_Wong

7 жыл бұрын

Isopropanol reacts with acrylics, so if you have an acrylic block or pump top/res then it'll be bad.

@Austin1990

7 жыл бұрын

The thermodynamic properties of alcohol are considerably worse than water. Water with as few additives as possible is the best. If it won't react with your tubing, a little antifreeze is usually the best. Otherwise, good quality metal fittings (to avoid corrosion) and a little PT Nuke (to prevent growth) is a good alternative.

Vodka loop. How well does a computer work with a blood alcohol level of 40% ?

@topkek7003

6 жыл бұрын

nichogenius alcohol poisoning

@Killer1986Chris

6 жыл бұрын

Russian hackers will attack your system and download all your coolant.

@hackerhacker-ms2wy

6 жыл бұрын

blood alcohol doesnt work like that it is actually its actualy water-alcohol level

@mikem4371

6 жыл бұрын

Nick Christensen 🤩🤩😂😂

@mihan2d

6 жыл бұрын

killer1986chris No, they would drink all the alcohol leaving only water.

definately not a pointless video, I was wondering this myself and you answered every question I had and for this, you earned your thumbs up and a suscribe!

I've used anti-freeze as a coolant in my liquid cooled system for 4 years, and haven't had any problems yet. My reasoning at the time was that anti-freeze's anti-corrosive properties have been proven for something like 100 years now, and that PC watercooling is a fairly niche market. I kinda doubt the specialty PC cooling manufacturers put any research into their specialty liquids. I built my liquid cooling system from the cheapest parts I could find, including used parts from ebay, so I''m sure there are dissimilar metals in the loop, which would've corroded with just plain water. I'm not sure what type of tubing I used, but it hasn't failed yet. It is slightly cloudy now, but that's about it.

@user-wf2ek8hz8g

2 жыл бұрын

Do you got acrylic in the loop.I just wanna make sure it works with that before I put it in my system

Can you use Blood to liquid cool a PC?

@thanos5171

7 жыл бұрын

lol it would clot before any tests are completed.

@ItsSahendra

7 жыл бұрын

AwesomeAsim I thought Jay's blood is water. ;)

@thanos5171

7 жыл бұрын

Sahendra Mallick *hits blunt*

@taiiat0

7 жыл бұрын

+CoolAsACucumber to entertain this ridiculousness.... you could mix 50/50 blood and anti-coagulant.

@thanos5171

7 жыл бұрын

***** and we could use multiple refrigerator radiators to get that near 0c cooling. Jay needs to hire us for ideas...

The wavy lines you saw in the reservoir, right after adding the ethylene glycol, is from the density change in the liquid. Since the small amount of distilled water that was left in the system is less dense then the ethylene glycol, it floated to the top from the inlets at the pump. It's the same effect you get from looking through hot air above a heat source.

@MaZEEZaM

6 жыл бұрын

Kane Fame Thanks for the info 🐨

@MaZEEZaM

6 жыл бұрын

Kane Fame I am wondering what is used in fridges and whether similar fluid could be used? Or liquid propane gas though I suspect that would be rather dangerous lol. Gas always feels cold though, is there any non flammable gases?

@Matt_Kab

6 жыл бұрын

Devin Williams used to use Freon but now I do not know

@D3nsity_

5 жыл бұрын

Lots of non flammable gases exist. Like Air, which is a mixture of gases, Oxygen, Nitrogen, carbon dioxide, water vapor, and lil bit of argon. However the effect you suggest is different than liquid cooling. Refrigerators use a compressor to condense a refrigerant called HFC-134a(a non ozone depleting gas a.k.a. 1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane ) inside and a radiator on the back to dissipate heat gathered by the refrigerant inside. This method of cooling requires the coolant to undergo a phase change from liquid to gas and the energy absorbed is released thus cooling the system. In liquid cooling there is no phase change and the radiator is there to remove the heat from the liquid as it absorbs it from the cpu/gpu. Liquid nitrogen is a sort of easy to picture example of this phase change cooling with no compressor(well if you dont want to save your liquid nitrogen haha) but imagine a simple setup, one you wouldn't do in real life but its again easy to picture. A metal cup of liquid nitrogen in perfect contact with a cpu that is on. As the cpu gets hot it will boil the liquid nitrogen, the phase change as the nitrogen boils, liquid n2 absorbs heat from the cpu phase changing into gaseous n2. Liquid nitrogen doesn't cool the cpu because its cold, its because liquid nitrogen's boiling point is -320.4 *F so the cpu is effectively a hot plate on a stove boiling a pot of liquid nitrogen, its just counter intuitive to imagine something so cold is because its boiling because we are so used to water boiling at a hot temperature relative to us. Pretty sure quantum computers use a similar mechanism to refrigerators just a more complex and insulated version to get temperatures cold enough for it to exhibit quantum characteristics.

I'm glad you did this video cuz I've always had a question of my head

I know these videos are flustrating Jay, but your efforts are appreciated. A friend asked me this very question recently and I just did not know the answer, so I defaulted to "ask the internet." I believe he was more interested in the florescent look of the fluid rather than the performance, which can be difficult to get just right. A lot of the available fluids are not translucent and when diluted they just don't look the same. As time passes more options will be available. To the other end of the extreme, I don't know why anyone in a cold climate environment would liquid cool their PC, when open-air would get the job done without risking damage to their unit. When aesthetics supersede function then the owner/builder of the PC is doing it wrong.

You do realize commercial PC cooling liquids are nothing more than ethylene glycol, distilled water and color additives, right? I've been using antifreeze for private and industrial cooling solutions for over 20 years now. Get the red VW stuff, 1,2-ethanediolalcohol. Not the cheapest but literally lasts forever.

@phatkatracing

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I've been using Prestone for 10 years, not one issue attributable to the liquid, but one or two attributable to me(the great ruined EVGA board of 2007 comes to mind.) I uh, didn't check my hose connections thoroughly.... / : Haven't tried the VW stuff yet, I will.

@SchwererGustav800mm

7 жыл бұрын

Jay thinks he is the watercooling guru... he only thinks that though.

@phatkatracing

7 жыл бұрын

SchwererGustav800mm He also didn't dilute the AF, 1:1 is too heavy and will not cool as well.

@RWoody1995

7 жыл бұрын

it was pre-mixed antifreeze, already diluted.

@phatkatracing

7 жыл бұрын

megaspeed2v2 Yeah, I saw the video. It needs to be 15:1 or less.

try gasoline or petrol as liquid coolant

@harrycreasian4274

7 жыл бұрын

Juan Castillo flammable liquid in electrical enviroment?

@BugsBunns

7 жыл бұрын

as long as there is no sparks or static.....

@dacaveman4372

7 жыл бұрын

thats is quite the stupid idea

@insertnamehere34944

7 жыл бұрын

I believe the immense heat from the cpu could cause it to combust, which is a big nono

@dacaveman4372

7 жыл бұрын

i just want to point out i said nothing about combusting. i only said it would be a dumb idea. so about you chill a bit with immediately yelling at americans for any reason

I usually open 3-4 tabs with Jayz's videos and play them simultaneously!

thermal paste, USE THERMAL PASTE!

@NyrixDerg

6 жыл бұрын

Dhruv Jat uh. Thermal paste is... well. A paste. Not a liquid

@Johnnyboycurtis

6 жыл бұрын

Liquid metal

@djmystery7235

6 жыл бұрын

Johnnyboycurtis liquid metal contains gallium, it will weaken any aluminum.

@jyotshak

6 жыл бұрын

Dj Mystery That is the least of the worries. Metal is very very very dense. Like over 10 times as dense as most normal liquids, so the pump would have to be 10 times as powerful. Then there’s the problem of the super dense liquid metal going through the tubes not breaking the tube itself.

@explosevgamr5349

6 жыл бұрын

Dhruv Jat that would be a bitch on the pump

use cooled water i guarantee that it will run cool

@billyz97

7 жыл бұрын

Puts ice in reservoir, reservoir builds up condensation as well as tubing and leaks on components, my computer brokededed

@BebxOfficial

7 жыл бұрын

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Rekt

@porkypine602

7 жыл бұрын

wat?

@SneakyKittyGameDev

7 жыл бұрын

ive thought about doing that but insulating the tubing/reservoir to prevent the condensation leaking down on your components, place down a fine screen in the res to separate the ice from the tubing so small bits dont flow down the tubing

@Austin1990

7 жыл бұрын

The temperature of the fluid is a secondary issue, a side effect. What matters is how quickly you dissipate the heat from the system. The hotter the fluid is, the more quickly the radiators will dissipate heat. So, the components will heat the fluid until it is hot enough that the radiators will cool the fluid at the same rate that the components are heating it. Similarly, larger/more radiators will dissipate heat more quickly as well, so the fluid doesn't have to get as hot. Chilling the fluid works exactly the same as a radiator; it just adds a lot more steps between the fluid and the ambient air. And, in practice, you wouldn't chill the water below ambient temperature (no reason to). So, a water cooler is just an elaborate heat exchanger. Even using ice from your freezer is the same principle. Only a few things are worth changing. The number or size of radiators and the CFM of air passing through the radiators. And, radiators are basically just heat sinks. So, water cooling is basically just air cooling with larger heat sinks on your components that use heat pipes made of flowing water.

Video entirely pointless, subbed.

@findalefinnie

6 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@explosevgamr5349

6 жыл бұрын

Same bru same

@davidcaswell1

5 жыл бұрын

Any fries as a coin. Lol

@gausts

4 жыл бұрын

Poopies

2 years later, being *very* reluctant to water cooling in micro computers. You answered one of my questions. As recommended maintenance is 2 times per year, using car cooling liquid (cheaper) works but, as you said, what about plastics ...

I now use Glysantin G48 with water many years in my watercooling. It just adds a slight green tint and works perfect. No coloured soft tubes or clogged up filter anymore. I used anti corrosion and different colors before but in the long run they all tended to lose some colour and instead left colour in my tubes.

Use gallium to cool your pc

@IIgabeII

7 жыл бұрын

In aluminum tubing right? :D

@PROdigiSven

7 жыл бұрын

Gab:P

@bradhintz2901

7 жыл бұрын

PRO-digi if you turn off the computer it would go solid

@MsHojat

7 жыл бұрын

+Gab even just aluminium cooling block is all you'd need.

@PROdigiSven

7 жыл бұрын

Brad Hintz Depends on iff you use pure gallium or an alloy that has a lower melting point

my PC is semen cooled

@Overide447

7 жыл бұрын

how are your thermals?

@brettr6895

7 жыл бұрын

Overide447 hot

@xFlared

7 жыл бұрын

That's why it's called a master race. We merge with our machines.

@neffarion

7 жыл бұрын

legends say if you add a an ovule to the reservoir a fetus will appear

@kevinsanders6268

7 жыл бұрын

Steve Chung I could fill it in a day.

Linus used this for his whole room cooling project, if I remember correctly. And it just got all filled with biolfilm from things growing in it, because it doesn't have a biocide...

You should try a coolong liquid called evans waterless coolent, they make a thinner mixture for smaller motors, they have a non corrosive mix that is great for cooling.

Try lava lump fluid.

@John-gm8ty

7 жыл бұрын

not very good at conducting heat.

@kylew07

7 жыл бұрын

Team WaveHD it's mineral oil it would just lube up your pc lol

@mihkus

7 жыл бұрын

John Douglas Oil is far better conductor than water or anything else. Ultra high-end engines are oil-cooled

@typhoon37351

7 жыл бұрын

Mihkel Laansoo My teacher at this program at my school had a PC cooled by Mineral Oil. he had barrels of oil in one of the closets in the classroom

@keptinkaos6384

7 жыл бұрын

dude you right and with the right viscosity might be better than water and a leek wont kill your machine

I think that weird shit in the antifreeze when u first put it in was jsut the water that was in the bottom not mixing intermediately with the antifreeze

@phatkatracing

7 жыл бұрын

This.

@Slot1Gamer

7 жыл бұрын

Need to has the drama tho

@ayporos

7 жыл бұрын

Ya. Water is lighter than the 'antifreeze' oil so after pouring it would settle by going upwards to float on top of the antifreeze.

@PrincipleUncertainty

7 жыл бұрын

Could also be the heat from the pump. Like a lava lamp, the heated liquid is traveling towards the top.

@jonnyturner93

7 жыл бұрын

yeah its exactly that. Like when you mix water and fruit juice

The reaction you were seeing was distilled water in ethylene glycol rising from the pump. They distort light differently. As thermals go it would be best to have water as much as possible but it's the corrosive (electrolyte solution) element in the system. If not when filled then after few months when it gathers some ions from the system. That is why you never mix 2 different metals in the loop (like Al and Cu).

I know I'm late to the party on this one, but the reason your tubing turned purple is what is referred to as "tube burn". You see it in older hot tubs. The long term movement of hot water discolors the tubes, typically into a maronish/brown color. I'm guessing yours is purple because of the green liquid you've been using.... cheers!

Onto the next cliche question!! Can you cool your PC with beer and call it Drunkworks?

@Minty_Mentos_

6 жыл бұрын

A fairly priced lukewarm basket of chicken wings badum tss

there might not be a difference in using anti-freeze and other liquid for cooling but you could try placing Black Lights since anti-freeze (ethylene glycol / propylene glycol) is known to glow under black lights.. if you are into decorations :)

I think the main reason using this would be longevity, you can leave it for years without having to maintain it, you just need to watch out for what tubing you're getting which this video does explain very nicely

@BigDrewski1000

2 ай бұрын

I think the best to be safe would probably be glass tubing

From my personal experience... I have two water cooling rigs. One with soft tubing (Tigon chemical resistant tubing with dual D5 pumps) and the other with hard tubing (Acrylic with dual DDC pumps). Soft tubing rig (i7-5930k with graphics card cooling) has been running on Castrol Radicool (engine coolant) with a concentration of around 60% coolant and the rest distilled water since 2015. Hard Tubing rig (FX-8350 with graphics card cooling) has G12+ VW engine coolant running through it with similar concentrations since 2016. (Bought pure engine coolant on both and did my own mix). So far... no problems, no leaks. No abnormal temp fluctuations since the first day I ran them till today. And I did not change the coolant ever. I have extra temp sensors in the loops keeping an easy watchful eye on them, not to neglect the built in system temp probes. All pumps are speed monitored. Nothing has changed what so ever. I even have digitally monitored flow meters.... no reduction in flow at all. Same exact numbers... no precipitates, no extra softness or visual wear on the tubings. However, I do not have enough information to evaluate whether it is a more efficient method of cooling. Probably not... pure distilled water would probably be the best despite its drawbacks... but as for longevity... so far so good.

Hey, why don't you use antifreeze as a coolant?

@JuanPretorius

7 жыл бұрын

dude that's epic

@kapilbusawah7169

7 жыл бұрын

Now all he has to do is make a video on this exact topic. You genius

@harrisoncringe

7 жыл бұрын

kapil busawah he was being sarcastic

@Kostasoflow

7 жыл бұрын

nah fam great idea

@kapilbusawah7169

7 жыл бұрын

Rogelio Oblea thanks

Jay this video wasn't entirely pointless. You are entirely... amazing.

@seannyboy08527

6 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it. Do your thing Jay, call stupidity when it's presented!

@seannyboy08527

6 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it. Do your thing Jay, call stupidity when it's presented!

Loved the music change in the video. Had me laughing!

I have had Antifreeze cooling my main rig's loop for about 6 years (Changed out every few years to rebuild the loop, etc.) I didn't really have any issues with hardware that I could tell. My Koolance 5.25" bay reservoir/pump from 2009 finally spider cracked from the fill port in 2017. Other than that, it worked about as well as I could've expected. I can get some pics/part numbers if it's interesting to anyone.

You should leave the antifreeze in a closed loop that isn't connected to a real system (even, could set up a loop in a case that you aren't using for anything with parts from storage). Then, run the pump a few times a day for a set period of time, just to show how the coolant will dissolve the plastic tubing over time and show how that affects the pump, radiators, and blocks. The real trick would be figuring out a way to generate heat in the loop. (I only suggest this assuming that you wouldn't want to destroy any computer parts, aside from extra watercooling gear that you may have.)

@JgHaverty

7 жыл бұрын

It wont dissolve the plastic, it will harden it. This hardened tubing gets brittle and will eventually crack and leak, especially around high concentration areas like fittings.

@lowbudgethero

7 жыл бұрын

depends on the tubing, I've been running a loop on full load for years with just some decent PVC tubing and ~20% antifreeze

@Sharnakh

7 жыл бұрын

PVC normally has some problems with alcohol on higher cpu temperatures. But it really depends on the alcohol and what additives you have in your PVC.

@JgHaverty

7 жыл бұрын

lowbudgethero PVC tubing is safe to use with ethyl glycol. 20% antifreeze is right on the edge for anti bacterial properties, I would run 25-30% just to be safe and more effective, but you're doing it right it appears.

@codylujan

7 жыл бұрын

The R4v3n Nevermore what about milk

So I ran a test. I routed my cpu and sli water cooling tubing out of my room and into my attic so the cold air outside will cool my radiators. the experiment came to a quick end after the temps outside reached cold enough to cause condensation on my water blocks. I even had to unplug the fans from the dual 480 rads to prevent dangerously low temps. there will NEVER be a scenario where ANTI FREEZE is necessary. Edit: location Detroit. side note, the computer could never be turned off to prevent the water temps from going low enough to begin condensation on the water blocks. I literally would run games in the main menu at 5760x1080 as my "idle" and temps were in the 30's C when ambient temps in the attic were 30-45F with the fans on the rads off.

@JW86SH

7 жыл бұрын

I guess it's kind of like a cold bottle of water or glass of iced sweet tea sitting out in the summer sun in the south.

Best way to end a video: "this video was entirely pointless, thanks for watching"🤣

@djaxup

4 жыл бұрын

Spoiler Warning please 😡

I've had a system running on the blue Chrysler antifreeze for years now. DDC pump with acrylic top, flexible tubing, acrylic tube res etc. Just took it apart and cleaned it but it was just about spotless. So it has plastic, acrylic, nickel plated copper, copper, 2 brass fittings, and whatever else. Nothing was ruined, cracked or crazed.

I used Glysantin G30 Antifreeze/Anticorrosive for years. Worked just fine.

@gloriouspopemantom373

7 жыл бұрын

Here, here, diddo 6y.

I like the idea of filling small "sample" tubes and capping them off for longevity testing.

@JayzTwoCents, can you do a video about coolants durability? I'll have a machine running 24/7 (home hobby project server) and I'd like to have coolant since it looks very decent. But I'm not sure about the durability of it. Will it cause more problems in terms of degradation or anything else? Thanks in advance! I'm a big fan of your videos, keep up the good work!

Ran 70/30 mix for years, never had issues with anything. Ran DangerDen radiator, pump, acrylic top copper CPU and GPU blocks, 3/4 tubing all from them. They've been gone for years now, still have the setup and works fine.

@nusretonat3502

7 ай бұрын

👍

I have an idea ... Use vodka !! Beware of explosions tho ...

@meatbaby126

7 жыл бұрын

bubu mic vodka isn't explosive. try some rum.

@meatbaby126

7 жыл бұрын

Leah Ryder I'm 14. LEGAL CASE!!!! WOOO

I was concerned about temps in my house falling below Zero and cracking tubes on a custom loop, but somebody told me some pc coolants have chemicals in them to avoid freezing.

@prich0382

7 жыл бұрын

casheesed just keep the PC on all the the time

@mr.tomatohead5648

7 жыл бұрын

Prich038 the few times I've come home to a freezing house is because the electricity went out.

@mr.tomatohead5648

7 жыл бұрын

UltimatePOPCORNS I have this one particular time in mind where my electricity was out almost the entire time I was at work. when I got home it was like -20 in my house. probably still going to do a loop, but just something that crossed my mind.

@zachary3777

7 жыл бұрын

casheesed Maybe try a methanol water mix.

@DeilGrist

7 жыл бұрын

casheesed you should be more worried about the actual pipes in your house busting if you're letting it get that cold.

At the rnd of the video, you wanted to know how long it works. My antifreeze coolant has been running 2 years without discoloration or any other immediate signs of wear.

one of my favorite beverages being used as a liquid cooling, that pretty cool!

Linus fuck ed up the whole room watercooled project because he used anti freeze and tons of bacteria grew in the tubes and waterblock Great video anyway

@lalnablehector1285

7 жыл бұрын

thats why you put a few drops of Iodine in your loop, kills bacteria

Use Mountain Dew next!

Would love to see please, a cooling fluid test using propylene glycol, same stuff used to make E-cig vaping fluid. There is also a nontoxic antifreeze you can try also.

I've used a mixture of volvo VCS coolant and distilled water for the past 10 years. I've newer done a complete flush, just added new mixture when upgrading the GPU. Now I removed one of the radiators and did flush the system. My soft tubing has become green/yellow and semi hard. There was a bit of flacking visible on the liquid, but not much, and the reservoir has some white residue on the walls and looks like it has cracks forming from the inside out. As it has been running for a decade with no problems, I'd say it has been working well.

Look up the MSDS for both ethylene glycol used in antifreeze (car coolant) and propylene glycol non toix, used in some PC "enthusiast" liquid colling

@reggiebuffat

6 жыл бұрын

Slot1Gamer isn't propylene glycol used for e-cigs? SMOKE IT!

give your pc crushed up viagra pills, should give it a little boost without overheating it :)

@ryanstewart531

6 жыл бұрын

LeonardoDeCaprisun *laughing and crying at the same time* NICE

@explosevgamr5349

6 жыл бұрын

LeonardoDeCaprisun no. Put legs on the system to make it run faster

@brandonjohnson4121

5 жыл бұрын

See a doctor if your overclock lasts 4 hours or more.

@joshyc2006

5 жыл бұрын

That's how you make your own rigid tubing

@jeramiahcox6976

5 жыл бұрын

If performance increases persist for longer than 4 hours, call geeksquad?

Super cool video Jay, Thanks😊

I used the same brand of coolant but without the antifteeze for straight 5 years without changing in my old rig. I built it back in 2008 using swiftechs kit with soft tubing. Mixture was 2fl oz./0.5l, never encountered any problem.

2:12 He gave a pretty interesting prediction but Jay did not believe him LOL

Dump that PC inside a fish tank filled with mineral oil and you'll have way better cooling! (add a nice big tower dissipator to the CPU though, like a megahalems)

@xmanrigger

7 жыл бұрын

You would still have to circulate the mineral oil thru a radiator or some other type of heat exchanger because with time, the oil will reach an equilibrium with component temps.

@LucasDaRonco

7 жыл бұрын

xmanrigger yeah you con drop a big aluminium plate with fins comected to the oil and it will irradiate the heat

@xmanrigger

7 жыл бұрын

It would have to be outside of the tank for it to be effective. Otherwise the heat it is dissipating will go directly back to the mineral oil, essentially doing nothing.

@LucasDaRonco

7 жыл бұрын

xmanrigger Duh... of course! something like the Calyos system

@dKashuKOH0080

7 жыл бұрын

nope ... just keeps it clean

Miss crazy videos like these!

I'm pretty sure this was the first JTC video I ever wanted.

I've used motorcycle race coolants in my closed loop system for lulz, it's been fine for 4 years now, however I replace the coolant each year in the winter. Just to be safe because coolant is only good for 1-2 years anyways until it's cooling properties start to degrade. There is no difference in cooling.

@rjames7380

2 жыл бұрын

🙋I was wondering about the biodegradable engine ice. But I guess I'd there's no difference 💁✌️

@seabass22

2 жыл бұрын

Automotive coolant is good for 5 years

@SquidRider

2 жыл бұрын

Holy cow... I just replaced my coolant in my cooler again, forgot I even commented... So that coolant lasted for 5 solid years, I got bored and wanted to try "Engine Ice" in my cooler. Zero ill-effects and my radiator was spotless from my 4 year old Honda Blue 50/50 coolant lol. I will say, WATER WETTER would probably be your best bet as far as being silly with automotive coolant. Distilled to a 70(Water) / 30(Coolant) split. Remember, DISTILLED water out performs coolant in cooling capabilities but provides little to no lubrication to the pump and offers no corrosion resistance.

@SquidRider

2 жыл бұрын

@@rjames7380 After 5 years of Honda Blue 50/50, today I used Engine Ice, dropped my CPU temps 8 degrees Celsius over the Honda 50/50 comparing new to new.

@nusretonat3502

7 ай бұрын

@@SquidRider What are your new pure water and antifreeze ratios?

Okay my best original idea here, (link up with Cody from CodysLab and try to cool a Pc with Liquid Mercury.) i think it could be interesting. but also really dangerous. good for a million plus views,

@ppsarrakis

7 жыл бұрын

damn ye! mercury for liquid cooler! great idea.

@florinpandele5205

7 жыл бұрын

JD Cunningham . Mercury is extremely dangerous. If your loop leaks, it's not just your CPU that's gonna do the dieing...

@ppsarrakis

7 жыл бұрын

Florin Pandele please just take a look at cody's lab channel! mercury is only dangerous if inhaled, you can even eat it and you wont die.

@JuggaloJD420

7 жыл бұрын

Mercury is not that dangerous, (the only big issue is that it evaporates into the air and then u end up breathing it.)

@seraphina985

7 жыл бұрын

Hmm another major issue I could see with mercury is that while it may be a liquid it's still a metal and electrically conductive, it's probably got a pretty good chance of shorting something out. Also while metals have good thermal conductivity their specific heat capacity is usually very low (They are good at passively moving heat but storing any amount of it so you can actively transport it around they suck at). Take for example some more common liquid coolants water = 4.18 J/g/K, ammonia = 4.74 J/g/K (usually only used when needing to radiate the heat to a very cold environment space for example), mineral oils are around 1.67 J/g/K, even gasses are better nitrogen = 1.04 J/g/K, earth air = ~1.00 J/g/K. On the other hand mercury = 0.14 J/g/K, copper = 0.38 J/g/K this just isn't a role metals are strong at though Aluminium is fairly close to the gasses at 0.90 J/g/K. Of course the thermal conductivity of the mercury would partially offset the low specific heat capacity but still as we know passive cooling doesn't really work as well as actively pumping heat by a long shot you would probably have to pump several times the mass of mercury to match the effectiveness of air cooling and of course expend several times the amount of energy for the pumping too. The reason why liquid cooling is so effective a relatively small mass of circulating liquid coolant can carry a relatively large amount of heat it would actually be more power efficient too but that only applies if you use a passive radiator to cool the fluid if you want a small radiator like is usually the case with a PC cooler generally you end up actively air cooling the radiator to minimise the needed surface area which nullifies said benefit.

Have you ever tried a low viscosity hydraulic fluid? Non conductive oils exist and are frequently used in electrical equipment as a cooling solution. I only mention it as I've always fancied giving it a go. Oil doesn't have nearly the same heat capacity as water though so I don't know if it would be that great. Just curious to know if you've ever tried it or if you know of anyone that has?

It actually depends on what antifreeze you using. For example, on my VW instruction said use Red one because of reaction on metals and plastics that used in car. (Plasctic radiator intake/output) And my 93 Honda using Blue one.

I was thinking can you clamp your cpu to your water mains and heat your bath with it.

hey, why dont you use dr pepper as a coolant.it'll fix you pc if it gets hurt.

ethylene glycol is the base but auto coolant has other additives for anti-corrosion, and it is the consumption of these anti-cor additives that necessitates changing coolant every few years. Plain water is one of the best thermal carriers, it just has limits on corrosion, freeze, and boil. Molten metals have better conduction so passages can be much larger and higher flow but the specific heat capacity of the fluid is lower and they tend to alloy with solid metallic components, the better option [water/metal] depends greatly on the application.

I think for cooling you are looking for absorption values and specific heat capacity. Some average as the higher of those two values, but water has a good value of both, hard to beat.

@riskytime

2 жыл бұрын

specific heat of water is 1.0 from what I remember, and also from what I remember that is relatively pretty high, given constant atmospheric pressure throughout any comparison. I'm thinking his original fluid and the antifreeze probably shared roughly the same specific heat, which is the reason the two trials were similar, and if one were to use a safe, alternative tubing system, then they'd be fine. In order to see if it would cool better, a system that allowed for more heat diffusion would be the test to perform, like a system with more coolant volume, and /or more of an exposed surface area to room temperature. lol I just wrote a book oh well cheers anyway.

"My tube is flopping around, here." "Alright, we're pretty much empty."

It's still "water" cooling... just uneccessary to use antifreeze, unless you were to use a chiller to drop the temp below 0C

@mga1858

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! and that's exactly what I'm doing. I'll be switching to SMIRNOFF soon though.

@MaaZeus

4 жыл бұрын

It is not "unnecessary", you are just staring the word antifreeze without thinking or not understanding what the liquids are actually made from. Usually the premium coolants are propylene glycol based, with some other additives. You know what else is propylene glycol based? Some car antifreezes, usually the red ones, with some other additives that may or may not be beneficial for PC water cooling. Difference is that car antifreeze is cheaper and stronger concentration, which makes it even more cheaper because you can dilute it with distilled water. Here Jay used a 50-50 premix which is still too strong. Diluted to a 25-75 mix is good enough for both the anticorrosive and biocidal properties of antifreeze.

Coolant/antifreeze is added to water to either keep it from freezing or to raise the boiling point of water to keep it from evaporating and it actually inhibits waters ability to transfer heat. The more coolant you add the worse the mixture will perform in terms of transferring heat away from the heatsink. So if effective cooling is the goal stay away from coolant however if the longevity of your cooling solution is a factor then coolant is a great way to condition your water so you don't have to keep adding more water to compensate for evaporation as well as keeping corrosion in check.

Back in the days of using automotive heater cores for the radiator I used Toyota anti freeze because it was red instead of the neon green that everyone else had. I don't remember what the tubes were made out of but I do remember there were cheap, middle, and crazy expensive lab grade, I used the middle grade of tubing. I flushed the system once in the years I had it, there were no issues, the tubing did stain red but never leaked or cracked. Maybe tubing is different today than back then but it was always recommended to use some amount of anti freeze in the system so it wouldn't corrode or grow funk.

Whats up Jay. Will you be upgrading to Gtx 1080ti's for Skunkworks in the near future?

@gandrurass

7 жыл бұрын

That would be a downgrade. He has 2 Titan XP's.

@totallynotaseaotter4946

7 жыл бұрын

R00kie Oh snap, Didn't know. Welp, Guess we'll have to wait until the 11 series releases.

@Sqtgdog

7 жыл бұрын

Unless for some strange reason nVidia decides to make the 1080Ti better optimized for gaming.

@majidshahani2437

7 жыл бұрын

he's already got 2 Titan XPs.

@DeilGrist

7 жыл бұрын

TotallyNotASeaOtter *downgrade

I ran my loops with 10% antifreeze/ 90% water for the past 10 years no problem. Temps were good and the only downside was the reaction with soft tubing would cause it to cloud after a couple of months. I'd typically run 3-4 years between changing tubing & coolant. Don't see what the fuss is about, I've moved to EK-CryoFuel Clear now just to maintain clear tubing.

@cdoublejj

2 жыл бұрын

how man years on the clear coolant? also there are different car coolants, like G05 or the VW pink/red stuff. some different PH balances and lubricant and what not.

in the end of 1990´s, early 2000´s we used Glysantin G48 ( I bet the presto stuff is the same) in a mix of 1/10 to maximal 1/20 with PVC (Vinyl) soft tubes without any problems. Still now many water cooling veterans use it w/o any problems for years.

Hi Jay, question: what's the best pc coolant out there? From your experience, is a pre mix solution better that distilled water with bio inhibitors and anti corrosion solutions? Or am I just as good running only distilled water? Thanks

I know I am late to the game but I looked into this before using antifreeze at a 15%-20% mix. The coolant sold by the companies is propylene glycol, antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Both are glycol based and are diluted with distilled water. I have been running antifreeze with petg tubing for over a year now and I have had zero issues. There are also glycol based plastics in some cars cooling systems, my jeep cherokee had plastic hose fittings on the radiator, was also never as issue. The main difference between propylene and ethylene is one is more toxic than the other because ethylene is more chemical based. Shall I drain my loop and show I have no issues using antifreeze? It's used because I cannot go to the store and buy coolant for a pc and I'm forced to buy from third party sellers who sell the stuff at $100 a for 1000ml. Sorry but where you said "you will have a chemical reaction using glycol based coolants with glycol based plastics", it is wrong because you are using glycol based coolant when you buy it ekwb, corsair, thermaltake, mayhems, alphacool, etc.

Mercury would probably make a good coolant, would be nice if you tried that :)

im a jayztwocents suscriber for years... and today i had that same thought, google it and whaduyou know, a jayztwo cents video as first result.

Nice tec video and always some thing interesting I really appreciate

Jay, isn't the crazy reaction just remainders of water mixing with the anti freeze? Cool video.

@xmanrigger

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. I observed same thing when I done this YEARS ago.

Lol would have loved to see how long it would take for it to melt

I like your attitude. Keeping it real!

If you're worried about corrosion, know that different colors of coolant have different additives. Like toyota pink coolant has additives that prevent the corrosion of aluminum parts.

Oh my god now that I think about it you should use mercury jay!!! On top of it looking really cool it might even perform better since mercury has a higher thermal conductivity even if it's by only a couple degrees it would be really cool to see in the tubing!!!

@MIBxSpartan

7 жыл бұрын

Like if you want jay to see the comment!

@sorendavis2108

7 жыл бұрын

I've thought about that before, it would actually be really cool.

@HildrTV

7 жыл бұрын

TheLoneRecon Gaming mercury is very dense fluid you would need a very stong pump to move it and i mean a very strong pump. also that would be alot of wear and tear on the pump

@TheRealUnconnected

6 жыл бұрын

Way too heavy you would never be able to pump it. You need a concrete pump to move it.

I have been using that exact Prestone coolant in my custom loop for 4 years now with no issues at all whatsoever. My system runs 24/7/365 and uses a generic SC600 pump. No issues with seals leaking. System has cheap Lowe's 3/8" vinyl tubing, plastic reservoir, copper block, aluminum radiator with copper tubes (coolant is not exposed to aluminum), and brass fittings. I am running a 50/50 mix of the green Prestone coolant and distilled to give me a ratio of 3:1 water to antifreeze. I think it's important to note that some PC coolants essentially use the same ethylene glycol and have the exact same sweet smell. The Thermaltake Bigwater 735 is one kit that comes to mind which used ethylene glycol in its coolant. In my video I had posted back in late 2018 about this topic, I advised to stay away from OAT and HOAT coolants such as Dexcool or Toyota coolant, and use the traditional green stuff such as this Prestone coolant. The previous coolant I had in the system was Primochill PC Ice and I had algae problems after 1 year of use. Needing to flush the system and put something else in, I happened to have some spare Prestone coolant in the shed, and this is how I ended up using it. The only concern I have is with the fact it's toxic to humans and animals and is a concern for homes with children and pets. Other than that, it should work as a low maintenance coolant which will provide years of problem free service from my experience. It may also be a good option for servicing prefilled AiO liquid cooling systems as these systems tend to mix copper and aluminum. In a way, I could say the Prestone stuff has extended pump life. The cheap $20 SC600 pump on my main system runs nice and quiet, and sounds even quieter with the Prestone stuff than it did with the Primochill PC Ice.

The tube and defuse plate is a sediment trap. You'll not get any difference in temperature for a few reasons. One, antifreeze prevent freezing of the coolant and acts as a lubricant on moving parts. The other reason is that you do not have it under pressure which modifies it's boiling point. In a car, the heat puts the whole system under pressure, usually about 13 to 20PSI, this changes the boiling temp and cooling capacity. As for the soft tube, switch to hard tube (craftsmanship and tools required) or regular clear poly-tubing. I prefer aluminum or copper hard tubing because it increases the total radiator capacity. However, shaping the tubing takes practice.

Get a test tube rack for display - put different fluids in short pieces of h2o tubing with end cap fittings and see how the fluids, fittings, and tubing fares over time.