I Tried Vacuum-Modding my Old LEGO Briggs & Stratton Engine.....
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@biglonely3999 here you go! Today I'm attempting to make my old LEGO Briggs & Stratton engine run off a vacuum!
Can I do it? Watch and find out!
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the main issue with this engine the fact that you had the vacuum conected to both valves...
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
That was only one configuration. I'll probably make one of the valves let air back in
@JB_Lego
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO trust me it will run much faster
@legoenginemechanic101
Ай бұрын
Lego vacuum engines can’t run of one valve like this. That’s why it wasn’t running. Had you kept two valves it would have ran fine
@noaharmistead7433
Ай бұрын
@@legoenginemechanic101 Yeah I think he chose to try it like this because he liked having the 1:2 gear ratio from crankshaft to camshaft and not having to run valvesprings. Could be wrong, but that's my guess.
@Aston3003
Ай бұрын
So when the piston gets sucked upwards, the other valve is still sucking it upwards. Not pushing down or something, so it forces the piston to remain in the upward stroke. Am I right?
Missed name opportunity: 'Bricks n Stratton'
@Tom-em3dv
18 күн бұрын
That is a good name lol
To my understanding you need a exhaust valve, so that the vaccum can suck in air so the vaccum cleaner has something to suck on. Also i found to have the best result with vaccum engines that instead of taking those plates as valves you need to use the tires from the Speed Champions cars because of the rubber, the valve has a better seal.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
You don't "need" one, but it helps a ton to have one. I'll keep the tire in mind
@finniboy9670
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOin you do an exhaust its run 1000x Better behaus you valve Open When the Pistolen go down and this Breaks the Pistons
@finniboy9670
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOi mean you Need an intakte and exhaust and on the exhaust ist the Vakuumcleaner
@Thesuree
Ай бұрын
@@finniboy9670 You sound German. Not like it's a bad thing, but you do.
@JB_Lego
Ай бұрын
@@finniboy9670 yea
The engine couldn’t run because you don’t have an exhaust/intake value… the flywheel is not a problem. Also adding lubricant will make it smooth and run much better.
@legoenginemechanic101
Ай бұрын
5:30 it’s took me a while to build good vacuum engines but please don’t just give up. Always start off simple when building vacuum engines so you can get a better understanding of how they work and stuff.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll need to add an exhaust valve. But I'm not going to lubricate it just yet...
@legoenginemechanic101
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO yeah no worries on the lubricant. I can understand when it’s not such a big deal
@Ollisaa6095
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO just go back to the original divided valves.
@DaPlenThing
28 күн бұрын
Graphite powder would be a good lubricant
Well done 👏
Dude this is so sick! Wish this was a kit! Well done!
with the original valve ports it would have ran better as you generally should have an exhaust valve. (or piston that has holes so the engine gets air from somewhere)
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was going to maybe try again but with an exhaust
tysm for including me in the video!
gotta love it
This is really cool, but as a somewhat experienced vacuum engine builder, i should tell u that a 6x6 piston is quite inefficient since a larger volume of air has to be sucked in by the vacuum then in a 4x4 piston. Also having 2 valves technically doesnt reduce efficiency but your valve design isnt the best because the valves dont let the piston go down freely enough cause of the way they are designed. Hope this helped lol
@LemonJuice_
Ай бұрын
Try changing to a 4x4 piston first before/if ur going/not going to redesign the valves
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
The only problem with reducing the piston size it it requires an entire cylinder rebuild, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of the project.but I guess you've gotta sacrifice something somewhere...
@LemonJuice_
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO i understand what you mean. If you dont want to change the piston size you can still try redesign the valves to have an exhaust stage in the rotation sequence.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
@@LemonJuice_ yeah I think if I do this again, I'll include an exhaust
@LemonJuice_
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO cant wait to see it!
nice work
Awesome! I feel like major improvements can be done though
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Absolutely! I might try to get it to run better in the future
@JB_Lego
Ай бұрын
indeed
@TwistedEngineering
Ай бұрын
agreed, also hi lmao
@xmysef4920
Ай бұрын
@@TwistedEngineering you should join his server
Ayyyy I’ve been wanting this to happen
awesome ! you could try a different flywheel like a ligth and at the same time heavy but keep working you're doing great vids👍
that's a pretty cool design, I also made something similar, well similar to vacuum powering a lego engine, except mine was based on a steam locomotive piston, like where you have the valve that goes back and forth switching from one side to the other, it worked quite well, sadly it had no way to reverse the direction.
Nice bro
Hi, Not long ago I tried using this model as a base starting point for a vacuum engine. I found that you need to have 1:1 crank to cam ratio and also an exhaust valve. Also you should use a little bit of olive oil on the cylinder walls and valve seats to lubricate and seal components.
@Kippo6969
Ай бұрын
Yes and also lower the head
@Ollisaa6095
Ай бұрын
well. thats a 4 stroke, it is possible, but it produces less power than 2 stroke and it is harder to get to run good.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I've had a lot of people tell me to use a 1:1 ratio, but I wanted to make a s little modifications as possible. I also don't like the idea of lubrication, as I said in the video Also, it is a 2 stroke. Every time the cylinder rises, a valve is opened
@ThomasthetankengineE2
18 күн бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOas little mods as possible is what's limiting u from max efficiency
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
18 күн бұрын
@@ThomasthetankengineE2 if that's the case, so be it. I'd rather have something that doesn't work very well than something completely different that what I started with. The whole point of the project was to see how little mods I could make to get it to run
To improve this alot first make sure both ports aren’t connected, you could also just do a 1:1 gear ratio from the crank to valves, lastly seal the valves off from the crank and make try to make a spring set up for the valves
YES FINALLY!
You should call it the bricks and Stratton
You probably should make a rotary vacuum engine,they spin very fast and are compact,also you don't need a flywheel. You could gear it down as well.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah, but I think sealing it would be hard for me
Pretty cool the one idea I had was plumbers tape for the air leaks it should be thin enough that it doesn’t affect the Legos and would definitely help create a seal and without damaging the Legos that’s a bonus keep up the hard work👍
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
That's not a bad idea!
Nice
instead of using the 2 by 2 tiles as intake and exhaust valves, use a piece like Lego piece 2723 and it will work better. Also idk if this will work but Lego tires may fit on the disk thing.
it is possible I KNEW IT goooooooooooooood job btw
Try making one of the valves putting in fresh atmosphere to not starve the cylinder of air, and try and counter balance the piston. You'll notice when it runs, it speeds up when the piston goes down and slows down when the piston raises
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I probably will if I come back to this
you need 2 valves running at a 1:1 ratio to the crank and 180 degrees apart, should run like a compressor in reverse
Funny thing I have one of those motors
Instead of the tiles try the black round technic disc thingies that nobody knows the name of that are commonly used for LVE poppet valves. And it will run better as a "2 stroke" with 1:1 gearing for the camshaft but who knows, maybe it will work as a 4 stroke (with the cams offset 90° and both intake and exaust happening every other rotation.)
We need to seeca Ali express karge super chelarger works? Can it be super cgarged with for stage.😅
the problem is you need to have one of the valves for air and it might need to be quite big considering the size of the piston
You had 2:1 gear ratio with cam lobes 180 degrees apart and intake connected to the exhaust. You need to have 1:1 gear ratio and make independent channels for valves :)
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
25 күн бұрын
Yep! I'm working on that now!
usually when pp convert briggs to steam they add another lope on the cam or change the ration of the cam to 1:1 to your intake valve open when your piston go down and exhaust open when it go up , vacuum engine are reverse steam engine, so either change the ratio or the cam lope to be 180 deg so like you have to piece for one lope just turn one off them 180 deg on each lope and but you vacuum on the exhaust side
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I plan on it. I'll see how it goes
@elden4267
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYiZptl6lJbHnJs.htmlsi=sMXaM3w33g7fffud
Is the vacuum strong enough? I think the engine has too much displacement in the cylinder.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
It's pretty strong. And yeah, I think the valves might be a bit small for the size of the cylinder
@NeoVei
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO Still a good job though
@JB_Lego
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO they good size
@DeppadaimDienst
Ай бұрын
No i don't think so because i built a vaccum engine with a displacement at the crankshaft of 4 technic holes and the piston is 5x6 stud. I also built one with a displacement at the crankshaft of 4 technic holes, but with a piston of 8x8 studs and this one is a 2 cylinder
@NeoVei
Ай бұрын
@@DeppadaimDienst You're lucky to have all the legos, let alone in the same color if it is!
maybe a tip you use 2 tires mayve you could use 4 instead of 2 i think it will work better
In order for this to run tou will need intake value and exhaust and rpm regulator like somthing to keep it spinning
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
8 күн бұрын
This is the latest video of this project: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6Fr0pOKaJDHdpM.html
nice lol
i don't know if you made this modification but you need one of the valves to let the air back in to the engine
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I had thought of doing that, but I wanted to try the original way first. If I work on this again, I'll probably do that
Add oil to help compression/ sealing the air aswell as less friction
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
2 күн бұрын
I'm not too sure how I feel about lubricating it yet...
but why did you combine the input with the output? that just sounds like ur removing the entire point of the valves?
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I was converting it from a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke
I would recommend making bigger valves and instead of using bricks for the cylinder walls, use Lego walls (1x6) plus lubricantion is highly recommended
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I wanted to try to make this run with as little modifications as possible. I couldn't changed a whole bunch of things, but that would kinda defeat the whole idea of the project
@xmysef4920
Ай бұрын
I don’t really think he needs to change the valves.
Do more
what if you used a lego motor to spin the starter wheel for an electric start?
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
10 күн бұрын
I don't think that would've improved the running of the engine, though...
It's running backwards! That's impressive bro!
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
23 күн бұрын
Backwards, forwards, as long as it's running!
@Hillbillypunk
23 күн бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO I had to say something lol I love the old Briggs flatheads. I have two 2 HP, a 5 HP, an 8 HP, and my lawnmower has a twin cylinder flathead (17 horse?) To see them in bodied via Legos, is the coolest!
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
23 күн бұрын
@@Hillbillypunk that's cool! I'm glad you liked it!
I built that engine with out any instructions but better.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
18 күн бұрын
Good for you!
@IainKelley-ks6gv
18 күн бұрын
Thanks
WOW THATS AMAZING DUDE HOW THE HELL DID YOU MAKE THAT
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
19 күн бұрын
Patience... And luck
@Tom-em3dv
18 күн бұрын
Wow maybe i will try
@Tom-em3dv
18 күн бұрын
I have some experience with lego but not that thats awesome
What vacuum are you using? It sounds like a jet engine!
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
It's a rainbow vacuum that we've had for years
is that a rainbow vacuum? mine sounds just like that one lol
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
😂 Yeah it is!
What kind of vacuum is that is it a rainbow
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
😂 yes!
Bricks and Stratton
@braydenh190
Ай бұрын
Damn. You beat me to it
the problem is that you connected both valves, this engine is basicaly working like normal engine but it is powered by exhaust(vacuum) but as soon as you dont have any air intake engine needs to take air by itself, this is why it doesnt work right
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Not all vacuum engines need exhaust valves. I was trying to see if I could get It to run without one.
make a vacuum pump out of lego
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
25 күн бұрын
I don't think I can make something that can make a vacuum using just LEGO
:)
18 that says Briggs & Stratton will run we had a lawn mower had a hole in the side of the block and the damn thing still kept running we pull them off of scrap piles and junk yards and the lawn mowers we pull them but the joke and they started right up you're not going to get a bad one of the best lawn mower engines out there or Briggs & Stratton you might find one one might be a little bit better than that but you won't find no other one Briggs & Stratton is like almost number one out there but not quite but almost number one they always start no matter what unless you really smash him or if they're out of gas or your room till he ran out of the world he seized up
for years ive been trying to make one, fail each time, do i need a very big flywheel
@DeppadaimDienst
Ай бұрын
Is your timing of the valves correct?
@Spleeens5
Ай бұрын
@DeppadaimDienst yes, I've tried many types as well, like "butterfly," which has no valves
@DeppadaimDienst
Ай бұрын
@@Spleeens5 What did you use as a flywheel?
@Spleeens5
Ай бұрын
@DeppadaimDienst I made a custom one. It's smaller than the one in the video but a bit thicker
@DeppadaimDienst
Ай бұрын
@@Spleeens5 Oh out of lego bricks?
Make it work for real till it melts !
I think it's partly because the piston can't draw in air
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll probably try to fix it at some point
i mean to me it just doesnt seem like u know how to make vacuum engines but idk when i made a vaccum engine it ran first try so idk
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I'm still learning how they work. I think I'll get one to work good soon
@dominikvarholik7519
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKSupqScY7m0lbw.html
@dominikvarholik7519
Ай бұрын
1:15 he explains it good
What about a train engine?
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I already made one, just not vacuum
Shouldn't that be "bricks & Stratton" 😉
You need to change the valve setup what you had in the beginning was perfect now you are sucking on the down stroke, I’m surprised it did anything
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
It's not sucking on the down stroke. The cam has a 2:1 ratio. Each time the piston rises, one of the two valves will be open, but they close before the piston falls
try and vacuum mod a lego v8 (official pieces)
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
Yeah... I don't even have a V8 I could mod into a vacuum engine. Yet...
@Yippee-mr8uf
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO search "lego v8 pieces" on google then you will see what i mean
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
29 күн бұрын
Oh, that V8! I don't think I'm capable of doing that just yet!
@Yippee-mr8uf
28 күн бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO good
you should make a Lego turbine engine is the most easiest engine to make
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
I'll see what others I can attempt in the future
I have an idea, you need an even fly wheel not with weights on each side
@legoenginemechanic101
Ай бұрын
That can help but vacuum engines don’t need that big of a flywheel he built something wrong to be it looks like he didn’t add an exhaust valve
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
You don't "need" an exhaust valve. Many designs don't have them. But they do help a ton
@Ollisaa6095
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO well, you have to get air into the cylinder somehow. on designs where there are only intake valves, the piston isn't usually airtight thus letting air from the crankcase to the cylinder.
Can you juse dat engine to cut grass
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
You could, if you made a frame for it and a blade sharp enough. But this version is barely powerful enough to keep itself running
Just makes just make sure the valve the vacuum is on is open when it goes up and the other valve to open air because this setup is completely wrong
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
It's not "wrong" per say, but an exhaust valve would've helped a lot
@SonOfTheDevil666
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO 0:55 it’s open when the piston is going down and sucking on the piston
@SonOfTheDevil666
Ай бұрын
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOif it was me make the valve a 6 stud and split it up or that you have a 4 stud blok intake valve and a 6 stud block outlet valve
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Ай бұрын
That was before I timed the engine. I messed around a lot with various timings