Great to get to show you the Infinadeck and tell you the company story. Watching the celebrated "Nathie" play Half-Life Alyx on the Infinadeck was actually kind of inspiring for us in the office and re-captured the magic of physical movement inside VR for me. As you hinted at, even as a really small company still, we hopefully have quite a lot more to come this year.

@TKPKidd

3 ай бұрын

Don't ever stop doing what your doing guys, even Disney see's the merit in this technology and are trying recreate it in their own way. I've always seen InfinaDeck as the pioneer in this space and I'm still patiently waiting for news of a consumer product from you guys!

@kennyalpha22

3 ай бұрын

I hope we get to see you guys collaborate with big giants like Apple and Microsoft, take VR to next level.

@kamacazi8

3 ай бұрын

This has been around for... NVM... yeah lmao

@kamacazi8

3 ай бұрын

..also not clickbait

@vikingghost117

2 ай бұрын

I hope I can work for you guys one day ;)... PUSHING THE ENVELOPE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE! Definitely buying me one when the price drops ;)... OR when I make a game that makes me a millionaire. I have a dream of owning like 6 of these and having game nights with the family and friends... then project all their screens onto a theater screen where everyone else can chill and cheer on their favorite player. Keep up the great work. ALSO... Idea... Get rid of the ring and replace it with a bungie cable/rope system attached to a waist and back/shoulder harness and be able to allow a user to jump, and through the pullies control how long they're in the air, as well as soften the landing, as well as make it so players won't fall on their face ever ;). OHHH MAN THAT'D BE SOOO COOL!!! Then make a game like Assassin's Creed, or The Matrix... Dragon Ball Z... be flyin around... maybe have it come with a circular wall you could run on... do flips hahaha! One day ;)

WOW! The future looks bright! And I cannot wait!! Sitting, and potentially swimming/flying positions will make this thing absolutely AMAZING!! I cannot wait!

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Exciting times!

@justamanofculture12

3 ай бұрын

The future VR games are gonna be amazing....

@kamacazi8

3 ай бұрын

This was around 35 years ago, but yeah future looks bright !!!!!!!! ....!.. ... ... yeah.

@ovrmya

2 ай бұрын

can’t wait to experience it, i don’t know how to swim so it would be cool exploring the ocean or something like that in a hyper realistic game with a whole vr set making it extra realistic 👏

Absolutely nuts. The price was about what I'd expect for something like this actually. Truly crazy that this is real.

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

This was already pretty next level. Looking forward to see what they'll do with the Infinadeck Portal

@Gaze73

4 ай бұрын

I expected it to cost 5k, 50k is ridiculous.

@JimmyNuisance

3 ай бұрын

@@Gaze73 Stuff that's produced in very low numbers for very specific markets tend to be 10x the price you hope for. Cost only becomes "reasonable" once you can sell tens of thousands of something. It's brutal. The first full motion racing rigs were also unbelievably expensive, now you can get a full motion rig for far less than 4 grand. Back in early 2000s they were never below 20k.

@Gaze73

3 ай бұрын

@@JimmyNuisance Yeah, but 50k for a treadmill? You can get a new mid tier car for that money.

@Vysair

3 ай бұрын

@@Gaze73it's like two-three threadmill plus hobby tax (the lack of economic of scale)

Man I really wonder what happened to the StepVR Gates01 :( Looked like this thing really could be done for around $1000, but now I bet Disney has a patent on a similar concept that prevents others from bringing it to the masses...

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Just looked it up, awesome concept! Are these guys still around? Would love to check it out.

@NeseComedy

4 ай бұрын

​@@nathie I sadly also don't know more about it, other than that they have stopped posting in Q2 of last year.

@NeseComedy

4 ай бұрын

Freeaim would be another nice concept, provided the battery life will be as promised and not only a few minutes. I'd love to be an early adopter for them.

@R_With_An_M

4 ай бұрын

​@@nathieWhats up Sir Nathie .... Sorry for posting here on your YT. I just wanna ask if youre familiar with your FB page relates to Warrock? Your "WarRock News" page? Im from PH, and stil playing the game and i just wanna ask your permission to manage your "WarRock News" page? Or at least be one of its page admin? Thank you, in advance, and more power .... 🔥🔥🔥

@CrashTestVictim

4 ай бұрын

A Disney Imagineer named Lanny Smoot actually has created something called HoloTile that is really impressive and serves a similar function.

I think that I know how they could solve the latency problem. they need to have trackers on your feet and have the physical space of the treadmill defined in space, so as you pick up your foot and move it, they will be able to move the treadmill so that your foot never leaves that spot in space. Basically simulating how walking normally works. You lift your foot and then use the other foot to push away the ground to propel yourself forward, this would just add an equal and opposite reaction force to prevent forward movement.

@masterofvon07

2 ай бұрын

Part of the point of this is that it doesn’t need any kind of foot tracker. Otherwise, that would work very well, which is why most other companies using a similar idea have done just that.

@mattduncan3304

2 ай бұрын

Given they're now doing hand tracking with cameras, I assume they could do something similar with sensors around the treadmill... of course that doesn't help bring the price down.

@jowiemonster

2 ай бұрын

i totally agree. foot tracker are way better then image based tracker. for image based tracking you would need high speed cameras that work well in low light environments and a pc strong enough to process all that data plus the games

@jana.200

9 күн бұрын

@@jowiemonster The quest 2, Quest 3 and quest pro offer quite decent image hand tracking and they are I think the cheapest reliable headset on market rn (especially the quest 2), So I think you don't need some super fancy and expensive material for an image foot tracking, maybe just some decent infrared camera ?

Recommend 1.75 video speed

@eli2700

Ай бұрын

Thank you😂

@Onatic99

Ай бұрын

I was on 2.5x lol

@herbertthesherrifandsometo4994

Ай бұрын

I'm on 1 25 he talks so slow

@richie0099

Ай бұрын

The whole video feels like it’s been slowed down and 1.75 feels like the normal speed

@Pikay-mm2ii

Ай бұрын

@@Onatic99there’s no. 2.5 liar

The price point makes sense. Probably the biggest limitation to making this commercially viable is not the device itself, but the regular maintenance it likely requires.

@daisyh8805

2 ай бұрын

it could just present the opportunity for a company with offices in each city that are called out to maintain them with a subscription

@TheFiddleFaddle

2 ай бұрын

@@daisyh8805 The demand would have to be there. And it's not there yet. VR still remains a niche and cost-prohibitive hobby for most.

so i have this idea... tons of rubber balls with copper mesh on top of them inside teflon half circles that have copper electrodes, as the rubber glides over teflon these copper meshes rub against one another, the player wears a special sole that conducts electricity into the system bridging the gap using the mesh on the ball and going into the teflon cups, right below that is the base frame where all these are wired, each ball is like a pixel, when they spin and charge is applied by the user's foot through the conuctive sole, it basically registers data that you can pick up in a specially designed board.. This would give you wayyyyy better tracking resolution and would also make it entirely free to move slide and basically switch to any direction... you can have brakes inside the teflon cups that reactively stop based on movement data... if you take this entire system and house it over multiple pneumatic pistons.. you can even raise levels of the floor and have it react like actual stairs and give you the impression of walking up stairs or over rough terrain and such... dumb idea i know... but if you like itt and think it might be viable, hit like, let people know about it.. let's see it gett made :D ,

@annikafanpage1745

3 ай бұрын

Better patent that idea. You just made someone with the resources a lot of money ...erm disney

@Rocksidion

29 күн бұрын

Yeah bro. Note your ideas down before publicly posting them..

@JustAPakistaniGamer

28 күн бұрын

@@Rocksidion i raw dog my comments direct... no notepads in between my brain and the comments section, ever !!!

@Rocksidion

28 күн бұрын

@@JustAPakistaniGamer No I get that, but just keep in mind your ideas might actually be too good and publicly posting will chance that you won't be credited. You'll be "Brent-Revera'd," so to speak..

@JustAPakistaniGamer

28 күн бұрын

@@Rocksidion if you care more about the progress of humanity than personal credit and have the capacity to come up with a 1000 more ideas like that... you really don't mind at all... and i really don't mind at all.. !!!! i don't care about money...

Ready player one is my favourite movie, simply for the fact that the oasis and the omnidirectional treadmill are very achievable feats as technology and A.I advances. My estimate is that we are about 5 years out from it being a reality. I wonder who will be the first person or group of people to create a real life version of ready player ones Oasis... It is literally going to change society!

@Wilfoe

4 ай бұрын

While I'm very interested in the omnidirectional treadmill, I'm skeptical that the oasis will ever be made. Its sheer scale and the sheer number of possibilities make it an absolutely enormous undertaking. That said, there may be something similar available now in stuff such as VRChat and Resonite. I'm sure there are others, but those are the only two I know... I've only been in VR twice, so take my words with a grain of salt.

@TheOriginalJi

4 ай бұрын

@Wilfoe I've only experienced VR once to be fair. Although I do like to believe that the use of NFT and blockchain technology could vastly improve the possibility of an oasis like platform. Even more so, with the "upcoming" advancements in quantum computing. It would certainly be interesting to see where it all leads.

@Wilfoe

4 ай бұрын

@@TheOriginalJi Out of curiosity, how do you think NFTs and blockchains would help? Quantum computing is certainly an interesting subject, though as I understand it, the main benefit of quantum computers is that they can do more at once, not necessarily that they are faster.

@TheOriginalJi

4 ай бұрын

@@Wilfoe So lets say gaming moves from having "in game characters" that the player chooses, to players having one avatar that could be used in any game that they play. so instead of cross platform games, it's a cross platform avatar. Let's also say that companies/brands/artists create digital assets of items that you can buy in real life.. say you bought a new outfit, you also get an NFT of each item you purchased and those digital assets could then be loaded into your avatars item storage. The avatar would then be able to wear that outfit/ those items. Blockchain would just make it extremely secure. Quantum computing would more than likely enable us to run the necessary software/programs simultaneously enabling these systems to work alongside each other seamlessly. Imagine an advanced version of No mans sky's' procedural generation using quantum computing, secured by blockchain and players having a cross platform/ inter-platform avatar that would have access to digital assets of skins, clothes, cars, guns, knives.. literally anything, all because you own an NFT of that product. which could be used in any game. There might need to be a json file created when the NFT has been purchased to enable the items to be used cross/inter platform. again, I am no expert. Just thinking outside the box/hoping this could happen someday!

@Wilfoe

4 ай бұрын

@@TheOriginalJi I think that would be possible without NFTs or blockchains. It would require that all of the games be compatible though. That may prove difficult with everyone wanting to make their own games their own way. That said, it is certainly the ideal for them to all be interconnected. Again, games like VRChat seem to do that. It may be worth it to look it up on KZread. I don't know much about NFTs or blockchains, but as I understand them, they're both records of purchases, rather than the purchased items themselves. They take up a lot of resources, so I wonder if there's a more optimized way to accomplish the same thing...

4:36 hey, that's me! Though, I figured they'd have made more progress by this point. That shot was taken years ago.

@shojo8708

29 күн бұрын

I thought the iteration you were using back then was better for walking since you had the harness on

@AgentTekk

29 күн бұрын

@shojo8708 I had mixed feelings about the tethered method. It was what worked at the time, but I wanted to look into different tracking methods personally. Wasn't really my responsibility, though.

@shojo8708

28 күн бұрын

@@AgentTekk That's too bad. Instead of holding the bar on the outside, I'd rather have the harness that keeps us in place

Great video Nathie! I cannot believe that we are actually starting to see products like this in our world today. When I first watched Ready Player One, the omnidirectional treadmill was VERY interesting to me. Since then, I have been patiently waiting for the day when we can see something similar to it. The future is near and it is looking incredible! Thank you for the amazing content my brotha ❤❤

Wow that's so cool. Hopefully they can whip out more commercial affordable version of them to public

i met you years and years ago in a rec room lobby by accident, I'm glad to see youre still posting these quality videos

great to see an update about this product, this is so close to something usable I can't wait to see the next version.

I really wish in the futur they can make it tilt, so when you go up a hill... YOU ACTUALLY GO UP A HILL... that would be mind blowing

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

12:18

@le_truc7722

4 ай бұрын

OH DAMN WOW sorry didn't notice that... I wish this tech will be more affordable in the future because that could be AWESOME to try out (+ looks like you had fun with it🙄)@@nathie

Disney is also working on something with the same functionality that is quite incredible. Now imagine using these in combination with haptic controls and maybe a haptic vest

@stylenchica

3 ай бұрын

Yep the HoloTile Floor: Omnidirectional Treadmill Surface

Great video! I'm super pumped for VR to finally start taking a serious turn forward.

Cool NASA stuff. Space, technology enthusiasm, & VR fit together naturally.

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Sharing all those vibes!

Glad to see they are still around. I didn't hear anything from them for a while.

I really enjoyed your content Nathie, thank you for the vibes bro!

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

When I first saw the movie, I liked it, enough to watch it a few times and remember for a while, even tell some friends about, but I enjoyed the film as a gamer. Not much thought into it then that, I'm not a movie person and just wasn't into VR and crypto and such... BUT I never even paid attention to who made it, until I saw this and you said that. It's great to see him making movies that have the messages in it that is Steven. I knew I took the time to watch it and enjoyed it for a reason, as in if i watch a movie there normally has to be a good one. Cause I still enjoy my OG artists and film makers at heart.

I hate how other youtubers call the other treadmills "Treadmills" which aren't actually treadmills They're more like slidemills and really overrated I'm glad you're the only one that made a video about this.

Imagine using this with the game Unrecord. Great video! -Sentinel

what we're waiting for is the nerve dive headset! bout to be stack in sword art on this one

@keanwaverider7874

3 ай бұрын

If you're interested in SAO full dive you should look into the Glaea headset, using some sort of open software that the Neuralink is using. Very cool concept. I'd say we are halfway there, or almost at least. We can now read the info the brain send our body but not send info into the brain yet.

Wow 🤩 love this! What a fantastic video! Can you imagine what it’ll be like in the future for VR!

I can also see this as a way of exercising while even playing a game

I love, that you wore the Marty McFly shoes for this video.

Ready Player One is here now. From what I've seen, we're so very close.....Awesome!!

Awesome experience I'm sure.... can't wait for the commercial version

For the seat thing you could wear a sort of exo skeleton on your legs where you can just sit at any time

As a frugal investor I always wanted a small house, simple cars, etc... but now that I've discovered VR I need a big house so I can host VR parties with friends and family. Trynna have the best VR setup and that'll requiere lots of room 😅

I remember seeing video of this and other 360 treadmills long before the movie came out.

It's great for simulating walking on the flat. What is the experience when walking up a hill? You have to push your hands against that safety bar as the feet push against the moving floor? I think that's the next step in the evolution of this treadmill. Servos/hydraulics to tilt the treadmill to an angle that matches the ground. You could say a stair climber effect. The tilting of the treadmill is not a problem. The task is making the system aware of the ground in VR and the person's orientation to provide a matching surface footing.

I almost forgot about the omnidirectional treadmills, however seeing the footage shown in this video of using that treadmill to play VRChat in a similar way to Ready Player One, makes me somewhat hopeful that these omnidirectional treadmills become more available in certain areas. It would be nice to actually perform better interactions with my friends whom I met in VRChat and not have to just move using a keyboard or controller like I have the past couple of years.

HOLY COW thanks for making this video.. i had no idea that they are Infinadeck only 11 minutes from my house! awesome!!

You should check also Freeaim VR Shoes.

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Would love to try those!

@FreeaimVR

3 ай бұрын

@@nathie We're open to you trying them at some point in the future!

This would add to the weight & bulk- but they should try an automatic rotation feature, so the thin tracks always face front & back aligned with the player’s hips. (Would keep the latency / resistance low)

I definitely need to get an infinideck!

There's a stretched flat ball version which has a slightly concave disk and 8 rollers inside it with 8 rollers outside it. Basically, it is designed to have minimal parts and minimal noise while giving the perfect impression of walking on a leveled ground... even to lay flat on.

Now I want to see someone try the version of disney! It looks even more futuristic than any alternative out there!

Super cool. If the price was a lot cheaper I’d definitely invest in it! Great video! Thank you!

Thanks for sharing Nathie.

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

Ive found as ive gotten used to VR I lost the super special feeling. I realized it was mainly because at first, i used to try to move as much as I could normally like the real world. As time has gone I find myself sitting in vr way more often so I lost that feeling.

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

I totally feel you. I'm having the same problem. That's why I'm always looking for the next thing that could immerse us more.

@joisco4394

4 ай бұрын

Yeah sitting is way more comfortable. My solution is to play games like population one, where sitting will only hold back your reaction time. Standing feels a lot better then.

@chanceturcotte

3 ай бұрын

I've never had that problem because I forced myself to always use my treadmill for every single foot movement I perform. I'm at a point now where moving with the analog stick would feel like a very foreign experience for me, and therefore, I have no desire to do so.

in several years no one will be touching grass, seriously, the streets will be empty with technology like this 😂

The really cool part about this is that I actually watched this movie 2 days ago I think which is when he uploaded this video and then I watched it again today which is when I’m seeing this video 😂😂❤❤❤

i only have one question. where did you get that bioshock big daddy statue from?

So cool I enjoyed watching your videos 😮😊😎

a while ago i had an idea for a hologram treadmill that would morph its shape to the ingame environment so that you could touch walls walk up and down stairs and stuff like that that would be very cool you just kinda have to worry about falling

I’d love to have this and be able to play the quest 3 with it! I’d have it built into the floor in my living room! 🤣👌 have a carpet or something covering it up when not using the VR as to not have it in the way n stuff. Wow to have this kinda thing and the body and hand haptic suites that I’ve already seen available would be incredible!

Such a good video!

Man I already have full body tracking for VRChat, this would be great!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰

I need this in my life

interesting tech. i think it needs to be about a foot bigger all around. integrating with some sort of suit and/or foot sensors like the cheaper ones might solve the stopping lag issue - like a double toe tap to stop. Mind you, it sounds like they may be integrating tech like Rokoko into the next gen version so if that is the case, then maybe a headset and exo-skeleton type gloves (for trigger action/input type movements) will be all that is required. Treadmills are notoriously bad for knees but that might be why they have the slower speeds.

New room tour video please and tips foe setting up a room for vr you have found over the years. Thanks

Solid video Nathie!

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Cheers mate. Really enjoyed working on this one. Passion project!

Sick video! 🔥🔥

Imagine that treadmill composed of mini treadmill that could rise on their own .

This would make half life alyx feel even more magical and immersive I could not imagine being privileged enough to play through that whole game on this treadmill

Do you shorten your stride when you use this?

Amazing

I would love to try the infinadeck

bro never took his hands away from the safety guard

i can only wish they might use direct drive and other such things for fast and near whisper quiet motion

Pleeeaaase look at the New Disney HOLO TILE threadmill !! It's amazing

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

Definitely up for it! I briefly talk about this in the video.

@chanceturcotte

3 ай бұрын

This

WOW i need one of these cause i actually am playing a boxing game and i dont have space in my room for it

I'm just wondering if adding foot trackers could help with the latency. And having said that, I had another thought, pressure sensors that could go under the shoe. Something that could be strapped to the shoe that could communicate how much weight each foot is holding. The combination of waist, both feet position and both feet pressure could provide a decent picture of intent for the system. Foot out, pressure increasing, likelihood of moving forward increases. Sudden reduction of weight = sudden halt of forward travel.

8:12 suddenly taking a bigger step and the foot was half outside the moving parts, that was scary, so the system wasn't fine tuned for sudden movements?

I dont know if you remember but a while ago you played a detective game called the Secret of Retropolis and recently its gotten a sequel and of you have time you should definitely check it out! Its more than double the length and is really fun!

Vertigo 2 would be my go to

Id probably play an MMO/RPG style game with the infinideck

Bro, Where'd you get those black cargo pants from?

Man I always questioned if it actually existed good to know it does and they plan to upgrade it. Also wanna play Alien Isolation with that.

I would certainly love to see how Disney's Holo-Tile works, ad how it compares to the Infinadeck.

Vision based foot tracking with this would work .

Awsome profesional way :) I think the Q3 bottom camera with AI could interpret the legs gesture to simulate movement

Hey, could you perhaps try messaging StepVR to try and get an inside look at their upcoming ODTs?

Hows the fov of Bigscreen compared to quest 3?

Why are the trackers on the torso and not the feet? It seems to me that tracking foot movement would make anticipating the required tread movements quicker and more accurate. I imagine that some method of both feet and torso tracking will be necessary in the future if they hope to get rid of that latency problem.

Disney Imagineers have designed a floor that is similar. Pretty cool technology.

Arizona Sunshine 2 or After the Fall would be amazing with this 😅

its certainly makes more sense than simply teleporting to the next area when you can actually walk on a tech that its real and based off treadmill and not some fancy tech that costs millions of dollars rather than a few hundreds or thousands making it somewhat available to companies and maybe the general public

Do a review on the big daddy behind you!!! That's awesome!!!

Dang, I would totally get one of these this year but guess KatVR it is.

$50,000 was about the price of plasma screen TVs when they were first introduced. Now they're considered obsolete, and you can hardly give them away.

Bro you look like Eggman with your stache ✌. VR is the future 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I want either a infinideck or OmniOne

I'm curious. The Infinadeck. Was it in development before "Ready Player One" Or were the makers commissioned to build it for the movie?

Fucking awesome! Thank you!🙏 I was looking for that.

any chance we can buy these products at some point as gamers and streamers

This is really cool! And in a way; This is a good way to lose weight too. Since your playing on a treadmill. And it will have slightly fast speeds if you want to really try it as a actual treadmill.

What about something like an oobleck filled bladder that has drive wheels around it all sat in low friction bowl?

Dang that's crazy I had no idea they are located 20 min from my house lmao. I want to try that thing out too.

Damn, I can’t wait for the world of Ready player one type movie.Go up against a company similar to IOI Ha future looking Good

I NEED one

Now if you combine it with something like the Galea headset you could probably get rid of all the cameras, since the headset reads your brain waves and converts it to usable inputs, like moving arms and legs.

The beyond makes this a lot closer to the movie because of how closely the goggles match the form factor of wade’s visor

I think if they paired this with a simple BCI, that could make for some accurate predictions regarding sudden changes of speed.

@jtjames79

4 ай бұрын

If you have a BCI you don't need VR hardware. You play Skyrim BCI version while your body goes to work, does the chores, exercises, etc.

@ImplyDoods

4 ай бұрын

@@jtjames79 bci's cant influence your brain lol they just read what your thinking (atleast non invaisve ones work like that and the ones currently used

Of course, not for today, but in the future, the technology of this trendmill being in the boots you can wear, instead of a giant device you climb on. About sitting or standing up, a weareable chair would suffice (they already exist, it just need to have a simplier design, instead of looking like you're wearing a sci-fi exo-eskeleton).

Hi Nathie! Could you share the exact dimensions of the walkable area? How tall is the walkable surface from the floor?

@nathie

4 ай бұрын

As you can modify certain parts there are a lot of different dimensions for the Infinadeck. I put a link in the description where you can contact them and ask for a pdf that gives you a full overview.

my first thought seeing your room: OMG WHAT IS THAT