They handle like an FE car? who would have thought.

Seems like it's more a skill issue than a car issue / game issue

@Mugcat21

10 ай бұрын

Yeah formula e cars don’t have much downforce which is one of the reasons they have a lot of crashes

@SeanCampbell_iRacing

10 ай бұрын

It’s rf2, it’s definitely a game issue But also yeah he kinda was skill issuing it, but I can cut some slack for rfactor 2

@Mugcat21

10 ай бұрын

no its not formula e cars are very difficult to drive they are really light and don't have much downforce@@SeanCampbell_iRacing

So your major complaints are "it's too simmy", when it's in rFactor, and that the cars understeer, when they're Formula E cars. Call me a cynic, but it feels like you missed the point if I'm honest.

@ElMoShApPiNeSs

Жыл бұрын

Videos like this are why not having the dislike button is a disservice to humanity.

@gerardryan3692

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the internet where negativity gets more clicks.

@GM-nl2go

Жыл бұрын

Its not too simmy its just a broken game

@lantag

Жыл бұрын

@@GM-nl2go Which part of it is broken?

@danczehajek9165

Жыл бұрын

​@@lantagtbf almost everything in rf2 is broken

This gotta be the biggest skill issue

Just remember when you watch Fe on TV they are all loosing traction on corner exit, and they are just hard to drive due to less down force and the tires they use.

@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but it's not faster to drift around the corners

@Nat-2579

Жыл бұрын

Also the electric motor means instant torque so it’s very easy to spin up the wheels

@soju69jinro

Жыл бұрын

FE is not F1, they are completely different. If you try to drive FE like it's F1, you will have a miserable time. There is more power and torque in FE than F1.

@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168

Жыл бұрын

@@soju69jinro not more power. Just way less grip, which makes the traction poor.

@rodrigofonseca1160

Жыл бұрын

@@Nat-2579 They are also very heavy (heavier than the already massive modern F1s) so the inertia is a bitch. Once they can improve the weight with better battery technology the sport will be really interetisng, but for now I'll pass, it needs way too many gimmicks to be fun.

The game isn't the issue. The issue is the big bald part between the steering wheel and the seat

@Dolek135

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@cattkin6732

10 ай бұрын

You made me chuckle xD

@georgevasilopoulos5359

6 ай бұрын

XD

@Dan_Menax

6 күн бұрын

Haha nice one

FE cars do slide a lot, i think its not too bad.

- Rimmed tyres - Instant torque in a very light low aero car - short wheelbase - complains about the oversteer, understeer and unrealistic handling

title should be: ''When you switch from F1 arcade game to a simulator and have no clue what you are doing.''

@BASHERSKINZ

Жыл бұрын

to be fair, he just highlight some of the ridiculous issues still in RF2 after more than a decade, full course yellow is absolutely broken. And some content does feel trash. I've been running the BTCC cars on the new tracks and its amazing, but when I try some other options the game is often completely broken

The car is fine, you're just not driving it de way it's meant to be driven. It's an electric car with pretty much no downforce and road tyres, you can't expect it to drive like an F1 car! Ps. This sim has one of the best ffb's out there, I'd advise you to watch a tutorial on how to set this sim up.

@HallucinatingHedgehogs

Жыл бұрын

I feel like that’s part of what he was complaining about that there is no intro or guide in game to getting the game set up well, plus the game isn’t plug and play. That’s probably the biggest thing that hampers a lot of sims not user friendly when starting and outdated/weird UI and sometimes AI being bad

@Jk81_

11 ай бұрын

@@HallucinatingHedgehogs I don't believe any sim has a in game tutorial of how to set it up. Most of the upper level sims require you to figure out how you like your setup and their is numerous youtube videos out their that he could have watched.

@SLSMe

6 ай бұрын

I don’t agree that the user x is as bad as he claims but it’s not too much to ask for some sort of official guide for buyers. With that said, the KZread tuts are probably better anyway so I see both sides of the argument

I'm not the biggest rF2 fan and it has A LOT of issues but physics and FFB are not one of them. I feel even the most anti-rF2 people admit it's one of the best sims when it comes to those. Can't speak to the Formula E stuff though, haven't tried it and don't think I'd drop the money for it lol.

@magical5181

Жыл бұрын

Agree, ffb and physics are definitely among the best. Top 3 for me at the very least

@tyranus1111

11 ай бұрын

I wouldnt know i downloaded the game and have no idea how to even start a race maybe they should fix the entierty of the ui before they add more cars

@BtotheDon12

11 ай бұрын

@@tyranus1111 That's honestly fair lol. If you think the UI is bad now you should have seen it before they overhauled it semi-recently. Still not great but it was a nightmare before.

@xaviermaczko

11 ай бұрын

@@BtotheDon12I don’t see how the ui is bad now? Feels pretty equal to most of the other sims I use like AC & AMS 2, the only 2 sims which feel quite a bit simpler are iracing and ACC

@Worther12

10 ай бұрын

​@@tyranus1111my issue also. I play ACC, AC & AMS2 but I can't get my head around the UI in Rfactor2. The one time I managed to get into a race the HUD blocked out the cars own display, and it felt like I'd gone back in time to the 80's or something. I'm glad ppl like it, each to their own, but deffo a waste of money for me. Maybe it does have good physics and FFB, but I've never got that far....

I actually love these formula E cars they are raw and challenging. This is actually how the cars handle you have to brake kind of early and work towards the corner and ones you are at the corner you have to steer really aggresively. If you look at the onboards you also see they drive it like this. But I do race in VR that makes a big difference, I see the corners way better then on a monitor. Rf2 in general has one of the best physics and FFB in my opinion but the game content itself is kind of a mess.

Doesn't look that bad to be honest

@olliecole7163

Жыл бұрын

It's rFactor2, its great

@andreysab3432

Жыл бұрын

​@@olliecole7163 it's not

@brandonvoortwijs1382

Жыл бұрын

​@@andreysab3432 it is

@TeamSenke

Ай бұрын

​@@brandonvoortwijs1382nah i disagree. The game has a bunch of problems, the ui as well.

i like that he doesn’t like the game because it’s realistic, he’s comparing it with f122 basically and doesn’t have the correct force feedback settings if you don’t like a simulator go and play f122. Rfactor 2 its the game which the virtual le mans is played on btw

@deathtrooper2048

Жыл бұрын

A sim with AI brake checking? Also Rfactor 2 is the same engine used for NASCAR Ignition...

@jameshoffa7085

Жыл бұрын

You mean the gigantic failure virtual le mans? lol

@Jk81_

11 ай бұрын

@@deathtrooper2048 I don't know about you but the only time AI brake check is when they are set to a low skill level or its a modded in track.

@nuztuz903

9 ай бұрын

@@jameshoffa7085 hey it's not the game's fault msg don't know how to run a server

The most realistic car in the sim probably and you can't drive it. Not surprised 👍🏻

@Marocco2

Жыл бұрын

Most dumb and pointless take for a game. Not surprised 👍

@maxverstappen7160

11 ай бұрын

This looks like shit

It's literally not bad at all 🤣

Actually its a skill issue

Jarno Opmeer competed in 2021 in Formula E for Merc. Perhaps he can give you pointers on handling and steering.

I would blame the driver not the game....

The second hand embarrassment I got from this is nothing I would expect from a sim racing KZreadr.

@SeaFox251

11 ай бұрын

He's rather a simcade driver at best.

Your major complaint is that the car is slow. Do you even read the regulations? Also paying for a car, you don't even know what is IRacing? Everything in this video really felt like you're being paid to hate on this game or something. I'm not even an Rf2 fan.

@GM-nl2go

Жыл бұрын

You clearly never played rf2

@amin7581

Жыл бұрын

​@@GM-nl2go what if I have?

You gotta understand also that FE cars are horrendous, Studio397 seem to have made them pretty well, they don't break or turn and there nof fun to drive too. Perfect Formula E experience

It's not only a Formula E game. But you sure showed the dev team with you showing yourself uninstalling and unfavoriting it!

@AnteroCroop4326

Жыл бұрын

Like they will care about some Noob...

@polareast9292

Жыл бұрын

@@AnteroCroop4326 they care about a content creature giving his feedback so they will care

@IssueWithSkill

Жыл бұрын

@@polareast9292 but there’s nothing wrong, he’s just bad

@Dany126PL

Жыл бұрын

@@IssueWithSkill 1.Bad UI placement. 2. Stupid, broken AI 3. Broken SafetyCar 4. Bugs, softlocks Sure. There is nothing wrong "he's just bad", lmao.

@IssueWithSkill

Жыл бұрын

@@Dany126PL yes.

Doesn't know about the lift and coast on these Formula E cars and probably doesn't watch the qualifiers

Funnily enough this shows pretty well how far CM/EA F1 mains are from actual simracers.

Yeah the Gen 3 car has some issue with the FFB and feel thanks to the front engine regen physics it seems. Gen 1 & 2 were one of the best suiting cars for rFactor 2 tyre model in my opinion and showed the potential of the sim at it's best, especially with the Accelerate esports championship. If you had no feel with any of the other cars though, there must have been something wrong with your settings. 50% damper and 11 interpolation is quite high (Fanatec suggests half those values for rF2) and next time also do check that you didn't have any of the steering aids turned on in-game

Reminds me of the first time you tried the FSR mod 8 years ago. 🤣 Hilarious. You'll get there one day.

Looks like somebody is Mrs. Gillon, as she rates this game by how it looks like. Stay by your arcades and leave the core alone. Good you uninstal, 1 less noob in the field.

RF2 is not a game, its a sim, also how is it being a sim bad. Also probably would help if you drove it like a sim as in lift and coast, not braking fully into every corner as the FE brakes are not that good, also not turning while braking. It does have its flaws, yes, it is quite finicky and the UI is terrible but the driving experience is one of the best. Race teams even use the RF2 physics engine for their own sims, and just add their cars in, like you said FE drivers use it to practice so it has to be good

@brettjames5061

Жыл бұрын

well as a "sim" i would want the "sim" to allow me to race ai without them brake checking in me every 30 seconds.

@Jk81_

11 ай бұрын

@@brettjames5061 AI difficulty level is why they are "brake checking" or its because you have a modded track or car that the AI is not programed to drive.

@MrThedestroy3r

11 ай бұрын

Untrue. They use RfPro engine, and COMPLETELY change it. They change physics modeling, obviously car models, track scans and the whole tyre model. rF2 physics have nothing to do to what teams use.

@GiJoe94

3 ай бұрын

​@@brettjames5061Sim and AI skill is 2 different things. Just race online it doesn't change the fact that it's a good sim.

Your first mistake was playing a motorsports games property

Alex I’m sorry but you’re complaining about a car of a motorsport you don’t even know

Bro wants everyone to know he paid for the game

This what happens when you play low quality f1 games after years and years. You hate something witch is actually hard for you f1 smoothbrain

I thought I was alone in the dlc being bad, by traffic overtaking under SC/FCY or getting overtaken by traffic that got an impossibly good exit that would send me in a spin if I tried it, not to mention an unforgiving back end. Gen 2 is a much better dlc pack, because the other cars are bound to the same physics you are. Also, weren’t these Gen 3 AWD? I’d be expecting far more stability on exit if that were the case. It’s a lot more stable than RWD. I don’t know if there’s a tuning option I’m missing or something, but it doesn’t feel like an AWD car at all.

That is just a skill issue bro. That is how the cars work and handle

I think, how do i word this… you need how to drive a sim😂

@niktherabbit6747

11 ай бұрын

Wheres Jarno Opmeer when you need him...

Have you got inverted force Feedback on?

idc what people say, RF2 is an amazing sim

i think its more like a setup issues rather than car issue, the stock setup in rfactor 2 is awful and it takes a lot of time and experience to set up the car properly in rf2

Man has very heavy feet

Rome is not updated.. I don't know what you paid for but this is the 2019 layout, maybe 2020 too, can't remember. But there's definitely the newer layout as well.

I honestly haven’t noticed the halo until you mentioned it lol

Ticktum doing Ticktum things I see

Basically that describes my experience with RF2. I've spent plenty of money on DLC for RR, ACC, AMS2 and iRacing, but I just can't bring myself to do it for rFactor2. It all seems so much of a faff to get anything working.

@dinonuggies2276

10 ай бұрын

Rf2 breaks so much, and its so sad cause theres so much potential with amazing content and even their new online system coming up... i would love to actually play it but whenever i load any gt3 class cars the game instantly freezes. I guess you cant expect much from motorsport games and its studios, and with the new lemans game im pretty worried about rf2's future anyway (remember when rf2 was supposed to get the lemans license stuff? Ya, they still have the liscence. They just dont wanna do it.)

What is Alex main streaming channel now?

what game do u call thiiiiss

Er- I think a couple of those spins you said the ai did to you, yeah I think your rear tire clipped the inside wall…

Co-op career coming with Ben 😂

What are you complaining about? It doesn’t look bad at all.

i need someone to helpe me set up fractor ffb on cls dd pro

Jarno Opmeer seems to like it! :P

If you don’t like the handling just use project cars 3 they have a fantastic formula E car lots of tracks and great simulator feels

This looks a million times better than any F1 game in the last 8 years…..

3:55 Alex turned full American 😂

What game is it

Coming from someone who plays this regularly, Rfactor2 is great for hotlapping … that’s about it

@brandonvoortwijs1382

Жыл бұрын

Endurance races (online in a league) are very fun for me

@daviddanser8011

Жыл бұрын

MP is amazing on LFM. Had really fun BTCC races there

I get that a lot of his complaints come from the fact that he's not a sim racer, but that racing does look horrendous. I've been watching Formula E for 2 years now and that's not how full course yellows work.

The formula E experience in rfactor is unbelievable. I'll bet you can't finish the race without running out of energy. Rfactor is a lot harder than F1 LOL

I'm glad that I'm on Iracing side.

Pov: fernandos 2014 ferrari

@joosep3668

Жыл бұрын

All 2014 cars*

I still want that game😂 Only for free though😮

My reaction to seeing this video was “there’s a formula e game?”

Bro just use the DAMN base game cars! RF2 comes with great cars and the ffb is among the best. Your settings must be wrong or the wheel you use isn’t very compatible. It’s weird, the ffb should be the best there is.

Your going to annoy all the rFactor fan boys with this one. Problem with rFactor is it takes a lot of fiddling to get a fun experience out of it, but it can be a fun experience, which is why many like it. As for the FE content. The AI for the new FE cars is meant to be a bit jank, especially on the official tracks which is a shame. I think if you go on a more normal track its meant to be better. They seemed to rush it out so they could get their FE esports championship started with the new cars.

@MooseMoi250

Жыл бұрын

My brother in Christ, its a simulator. Rfactor isn't built around the casual playing majority. Its a niche game.

@Marocco2

Жыл бұрын

​@@MooseMoi250and always will be niche. Pick your poison

@lewis8552

Жыл бұрын

​​@@MooseMoi250 there's other sims out there that are more intuitive and easier to get a race working. Just because it's a sim doesn't mean it has to be clunky to setup or provide a broken racing experience

@Jk81_

11 ай бұрын

@@lewis8552 If you have trouble setting up a singleplayer race in rf2 your problem is not the game it's your level of competence

It's just that rFactor2 is like that, the UI in other sims is way better, and as you said yourself, sims are about the driving not the looks

I have to say, your ffb settings were a bit wonky imo. I can't help but feel you went into this with a narrative you wanted to portray. This didn't look like a fair crack at it tbh. rFactor2 has some of the best feeling ffb in the entire industry and what you described was not the typical experience. Where I do agree with you though is how technical it is, the UI / UX whilst improved in recent years is still miles off where it should be. You shouldn't have anywhere near the amount of issues you did setting up your wheel. You shouldn't need to invest more than 5 minutes setting up your controls. However, when you do, it really is one of, if not the best feeling sims out there. Personally graphics are not important for me but when running on high / max settings in can look half decent. One thing that needs a complete overhaul though is the HUD, that is a mess.

Electric go-karts 😂

Wait new game? rFactor2 was released in 2013

these cars have a lot of tourq or however u spell it

@niktherabbit6747

11 ай бұрын

Torque?

Dont switch from a game like f1 to something like rfactor which is fiddlely as all buggery to get dialed in correctly and expect it to be a fun experience, took me like a week of tinkering to get my rfactor 2 feeling not weird. Also dont mislead people for clicks dude. 🤦‍♂️

Formula e cars can not be driven like normal open wheel cars… they have no gear… no gearing differential and a ton of torque… under steer on entry and oversteer on exit are how those cars handle IRL. Although iRacing is much better

Rf2 is probably my favorite sim for steering and handling feel but like… it seems like they just got that down and stopped developing it? The UI is trash, the AI behavior makes no sense, and as a game it’s unplayable. But as a sim, like I’m training to get in a race car or I wanna see what would a lap in this car actually feel like, it’s damn good

this is r factor2

You know you did a good job when you get all of the theater kids out of their echo chambers. Your video shows all of the issues and glitches that rFactor 2 has had for years and all they can do is insult you is really telling, you earned a sub.

i mean rf2 isn't just a formula e game, it has a lot more to it which you didn't explore in the video

Sim racers when the sim is fully realistic, and therefore not fun to drive

FE be doing 💨 Not for me let me enjoy the nice roaring f1 engines😂

Still better than f1 23

@skyescap5221

Жыл бұрын

bro has played the new game already it seems like

@niktherabbit6747

11 ай бұрын

Yeah no. I play both games and i quite like F1 23.

Can you get it on Xbox one s

@chazmyster

Жыл бұрын

RF2 is PC only so no

@Nicholas_1230

Жыл бұрын

@@chazmyster rip

“Formula e game”

I personally much prefer the AC mod from VRC, it handles a lot better and AC with CM is way better to setup races and weekends etc that make the game way more enjoyable not to mention the amount of HUD mods u can get and such, only problem is ac AI can be a bit janky sometimes

It would be cool to see Formula E cars put into the official F1 game

@vectro4284

Жыл бұрын

Hell no, that’s like adding Basketball to a football game.

@potatogirlcultist19

Жыл бұрын

@@vectro4284 No, because basketball is good. It would be more like adding lawn bowling to a football game. It's quiet, full of retired blokes, and ridiculously boring.

@vectro4284

Жыл бұрын

@@potatogirlcultist19 That’s a better comparison 😁👍

Based on what I see in your gameplay you were just overly aggressive on the throttle I will admit i am a bit too gentle on the throttle in this car mostly because it’s so easy to lock up and you were also too aggressive on steering which I don’t know how you managed to do considering you’re definitely not supposed to be gentle with it at all So the problem isn’t the car it’s you (sorry)

I agree with you .... RF2 is so not user friendly that it feels unusable and the content I tired before refunding was not fantastic... definitely prefer other sims.

you advertised like it’s a completely new Formula E game but it’s just some dlc for rfactor 2..

It's too bad, because real life Formula E is awesome. Also, on your comments about no tutorial, even games like F1 22 and F1 23 don't have a tutorial, and they're aimed at the general public.

11 minutes and 50 seconds of an Arcade racing game KZreadr complaining due to his lack of skill

R factor 2 is a terrible game what made you think it would be great to download it Have you seen the state of nascar 21 ignition?

@Isamaru7

Жыл бұрын

Still my Favorite Game Ever

@nuztuz903

9 ай бұрын

studio 397 didn't have much of a hand in development for nascar 21

Skill issue

Rfactor nerds will hate this but the game is completely dogshit now that MSG is in charge. Getting the game to work properly is a challenge lol. The bar has gotten so low for some of these guys that they'll still defend this despite just watching a 12 minute video of their favorite game not working properly

ever heard of trail braking

fair enough if you want to say the singleplayer experience and AI racing is poor, but going on a rant about rF2 having a trash handling model and force feedback wasnt your finest moment, especially considering it’s the go-to sim for a lot of racing drivers 😅

@chazmyster

10 ай бұрын

And he goes from f1 sim cade

Rfactor 2 is the best sim for Single Player

RF2 is best driven when you play around with wet weather and the open wheel cars. You can thank me later

More of a drama queen than a racer, no time to give it a chance

I think Ericsson hit you.

I call this a skill issue and not a game issue. As a guy who played rfactor 2 and enjoyed it, I call bs on your claims that it sucks. Sure, some cars made by the community or Studio 397 suck, but other than that it's quite good.

Never liked the real life series so guessing the game wont be much better ⛳

@Dolek135

9 ай бұрын

you'd be surprised how fun these thingies are to drive

@Chip_in

9 ай бұрын

@@Dolek135 Yeah l guess l shouldn't judge when l haven't even driven them in game. l'm definitely not a fan of the real life series though ⛳

clickbait at its finest

You should stick to the F1 games. Sims aren't for you