Pretty comprehensive video, everyone should find a way that works for them in here :) Thanks

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

That's my main goal. Give all the options!

As someone just starting out... Thanks for showing options for folks who don't (yet) have a full set of tools

Really, really good overview of different options available to small shop owners. I loved your tip on making a trough with the router first, then using a jig saw, then finishing with the router. That would be my go to method in most cases. I have good dust extraction here so that's not so much an issue. Great job, my friend 👍

I like all these ideas. Right now I'm building a circle jig for my bandsaw. I can't cut large circles though. I'll be building a jig for my table saw, and router. I'm holding off on the jig saw, because my blades have too much flex.

That band saw table is the best: safe, fast, quiet, versatile. (I guess that's why they're so expensive). Thank you for making this very informative and instructive video. God[Bible] Bless you.

The bandsaw method is great for wide blade options. I have a 2 small band saws and the blade deflection can be an issue.

A very long time ago, when the world was young, I used the jigsaw method. Score the cut line with your scoring tool held tight by whatever means works for you. Fresh top quality rigid blade. My green Bosch had clear plastic inserts for reducing tear-out, and you could buy packs of replacements. I recently saw a KZread video about making your own tear-out eliminator. This worked well, even in melamine. When I got a router, I used that. Until seeing this video, I'd forgotten about the jigsaw. Truth be told, until doing a recent jib for daughter, I'd forgotten I even had the jigsaw!

Appreciate the clear review of methods… and the ingenuity within the jigsaw approach!

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin! I was hoping it would work and it worked well 👍

This for sure answered my question. Thanks.

@MWAWoodworks

5 ай бұрын

Awesome 😎

Making a bunch of round candle stands for a client. That Band Saw jig is an excellent time saver. Will definitely be making one thank you!

Not sure if this would work but as you make the jigsaw trammel (?), don't drill the blade hole and leave the back-side of the retainer box off. Run the jigsaw as you side it into the box which makes a blade width slot up to the front. Screw the back on and this should limit the tearout on the top of the work piece.

Clear, concise advice for me, a beginner. Thank you!

Thank you! Clear and concise for all methods. Well done!

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

😃

simple, too the point and without the waffle - good video.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

Excellent presentation - especially of the ‘no centre hole’ version of the band saw method - really useful. Thank you 👍👏

Will try the first method with a cross cut jig for a circular saw. I only need small diameter circles 12” or less. A clean edge would be a nice bonus. Thank you.

@Pseudify

2 ай бұрын

I like that the blade on a table saw is much more rigid than a bandsaw or jigsaw. The thing I don’t like about the table saw is the amount of cuts (i.e. dust) you have to make. The bandsaw and jigsaw would seem to be the best in terms of dust-making.

I was happy to see others comment on the jig saw & trammel(?) method. Even though he refers to it as a beginner or budget method, my immediate thought was that it is a great idea for anyone that doesn't have CNC. It was good to see I wasn't the only one thinking that way.

I loved this video. I knew about the concept of the table saw method, but had never seen it done. I had never seen the jigsaw one with the jig, simple concept and so easy. Thanks for sharing.

Very helpful - thanks.

Great presentation Matt. My Preferred method is the table saw. I have however been meaning to make a jig for the band saw and one for one of my palm routers. Thanks for the great content and Happy Holidays to you and yours.

Really great tips, Matt! 😃 Thanks a lot!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

🙌

Liked that a lot, I've used the router trammel / compass method up to 6feet for a rounded end of a kitchen island. that's my go to for larger apps, I loved the jig saw idea though, nice work !!

Great video! I recently cut out a bunch of circles using a Makita palm router. Using an upcut spiral bit and dust collection, there was no dust. I mean zero dust. It surprised me. Really enjoy your channel. One of my very favorites. Happy holidays!

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jay! Happy holidays to you too!

I love these tips. Thank you so much for the demonstration along with detail information

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I made a table saw circle jig, I just use a piece of 1/8 inch finish nail for the pivot. Pretty small hole in the center of my workpiece.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can do that too!

Thank you for this video, I learnt something new today. I'm a home DIYer with a 10x10 work area. I personally use the table saw method (but with a different design of my own making) as I do not have a band saw. 2 years ago I watched lots of videos on how to make circles out of wood and I must say that until 5 minutes ago I've never ever seen the jigsaw method before, that was impressive Thank you...

Very well done video, thank you for sharing these techniques !

Thank you for making this video. The instruction and detail is exactly what I need. I am today years old when I learned I need a tremmel.

@TheLastPharm

17 күн бұрын

Trammel, just in case you want to google more info.

I mostly make speaker boxes, which basically means circle cutouts with counter sunk edges (that's the right term?) for flush mounting the drivers. So only the router (or CNC) method makes sense. What I am trying to say here is: go for the router method, it is more versatile than the others. Also I would recommend to make a little slide in the jig for more precision than just holes. I guess if I ever start making many pieces of the same design I would just make templates (or get a CNC).

Great job explaining everything thank you

Great video, thanks for sharing. For the Router circle jig, I would use a piece of foam underneat the lumber.

Norm Abram demonstrated a bandsaw extension jig for cutting a circle of any size just by placing the center pivot on a floor supported arm. However, the size of the table can determine if it's safer and wiser to bring the tool to the wood, e.g., the router method; or the wood to the tool e.g., bandsaw or table saw methods. Great video! I've not seen a decent jig saw circle jig like yours. Thanks!

@MWAWoodworks

2 ай бұрын

Yeah doing really large circles on a band saw really is a 2 man job

Hey, jigsaw method looks great, a quality jigsaw, with a high TPI, dual sided blade from a top brand should do the trick. Do you happen to have more specs for the jig (guide) you used?

Great tips Matt! I need to make a bandsaw jig now! 🤘🏻

Great tips! Thanks for this one

That was pretty thorough.

Having not watched the whole video yet, I used my Shaper Origin to cut a circle. Then finished it on the bandsaw and flush trim bit. Couple of positives. Any size circle, no hole, dust control, and I used a core box bit to cut a juice groove prior to finishing the main circle cut. Pretty slick, albeit expensive tool.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

I need to try the Shaper. Looks like a cool handheld CNC!

Two sided tape for the runner!! I made one and used super glue that didn't hold in my freezing shop. Great tip, thanks! I just used the table saw method to make a 22" diameter lazy susan and it turned out great. I think the table saw is great for making large circles. I first attempted to make the cut with the jig saw method and failed. I did a small test cut on plywood and it worked great, but when cutting one inch hardwood the blade just didn't cut it. Thanks for a fantastic video!

So many good ideas!

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

A little bit quicker technique with the router. You can cut all the way thru the piece, just leave little tabs...3 or 4 little tabs so the piece is still secure. Basically plunge your router all the way thru and when you get to the 3,6,9,12 o'clock positions, lift the router and leave a little tab. That way you don't have so much to cut with a jigsaw and clean up. Great video though. I love that bandsaw jig. Super fast!

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's pretty much how my CNC works no reason not to do the same with a router!

Enjoyed this video - Nice job. I liked that you explored all the various options. Never seen the table saw method.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah neither had I!

Super helpful - thanks!

i cut my big circles on the bandsaw first then go around again with my router jig, that cleans up the edge, i usually make circles out of plywood, i cut thin edge banding out of solid wood (soak them and bend them around in a circle and let them dry) then use the circle offcuts with clamps to glue the edge banding in place

Masking tape out the circle when using the jig saw to prevent the edges from blowing out

HI mat really really good. I learnt a lot today. thank u so much.

Thanks alot for your video,hope to see more videos from you

I was wondering how I would cut a teak disc to a size larger than my hole saws, and the table saw method worked great. KZread FTW yet again, and thanks for that!

I started making circles with the band saw jig but didn't like the rough edge. Then I found the router trammel and fell in love. It's messier and a bit slower, but for making big table tops, it's my go-to. Great video. Thanks for putting it out.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure that's the best way for big circles

Great presentation

Wow, that video was really useful! Good luck!

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I have watched this many times. I bought my router and wood to start making some home decor. When you Finished did you drill a hole In the board that you’re cutting? I went back and watched it a few more times and I didn’t hear nor see you say anything. Also do you have measurements for the length of your birch used to make the trammel? Every detail of cutting with the router and trammel. I’ll continue following. If you’re willing to share tips/ tricks that would be. Thank you.

Great compilation! In our shop we’ve used the bandsaw and router methods quite a bit. I favor routers, but I cut down into a sacrificial piece. I don’t like adding the step with the flush trim bit. That’s just personal preference. I’ve heard of the table saw method but never tried it - very cool… I will definitely give it a go. Love the saber saw idea. It never even crossed my mind 😅. That’s definitely on deck for a try. Last comment: I always make my trammels out of 12mm Baltic. I’ve had occasional issues with deflection using the thinner, more flexible material. Love the video and the channel! PS: Whoever said CNC isn’t “real” woodworking, is an idiot, and probably hasn’t ever had to work in a real pressure-filled production environment. A tool is a tool.

@davidcole333

Жыл бұрын

Big difference between production and home shops. Cnc machines belong in production shops. Btw hoss...a different opinion does mean someone's an idiot, it means they have a different opinion. Stay civil.

All of these methods were evaluated for the feasibility of cutting a circle where the circle is the end product. I'm curious about thoughts for cutting circles of various sizes where the hole is the desired end product. Obviously for smaller circles one can use Forstner bits and hole saws. What do you like to use for larger holes?

Great information.

I've seen similar jigs as your bandsaw one, used on the ridgid oscillating sander to take care of the bandsaw marks. It just has a slider and knob for adjustment to just barely touch the sandpaper

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

So you're using something to cut away the majority of the waste and then using the sanding jig to refine the final circle?

@stevenlarson6125

2 жыл бұрын

@@MWAWoodworks I haven't done it, just seen it... but yes.. you can cut away the bulk with the bandsaw, or even use your BS circle jig to make it mostly round with the rough edge.... then use a jig on the sander that has a slider on it to fine tune adjustment.... slowly turn the circle, just like you did with the tablesaw,. I don't remember which youtuber I saw do it.

Great video, liked and subscribed! I think that I am going to give the jigsaw method a try and put down some painters tape on the circle path to prevent tearout.

Beautiful ideas....

7:55 You dont have to drill the work piece. Just take a piece of 1mm thick tin, put a screw in it and use double sided tapes to secure it in the center. the screw is the guide for your compass.

@MWAWoodworks

7 ай бұрын

Thats right! I thought i did that at some point in that video? Too long ago, cant remember 🤣

One thing to point out with the table saw method, you did it the correct way by cutting it down as small as possible before spinning it on the blade. There is the video someone tried to do that without as much patience and the workpiece caught on the blade and pulled their hand straight into the blade. Luckily for them they had a saw stop, but I personally wouldn't want my hands anywhere near that thing I was doing anything that wasn't a straight cut.

@MWAWoodworks

Ай бұрын

Yeah I would use a push paddle to protect the hands from that incident

I'm making the jigsaw jig but with a zero clearance slot for the blade. Using a sharp and fine tooth blad should minimise the tear-out?

I was really surprised at how well the table saw method worked! I use the router method. #7 could be using a table router. Similar to the jig, but you bring the work to the table like you did with the table saw.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Very true.

I like the band saw method and table saw

Enjoyed watching the video

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Raj!

Great video! I wonder, if maybe combining the router and jig/bandsaw methods a little differently could be just as good but less messy. Cut a circle on the band saw 1/4” bigger than you need, then use the router on a trammel to cut the final diameter. You still get that great cut, but maybe a much smaller mess. Bonus if you can do the router cuts over a downdraft table or something.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Great ideas!

@BenNawrath

2 жыл бұрын

@@MWAWoodworks sharing is caring. Lol

I like ed your presentation style. I have used all of these except the table saw and I will try that at some point. CNC is total off the table for me even if I could afford it. My only issue is where your band saw guard was set. That's just a an invitation for losing a finger. Besides, with the guard down the guide bushings or rollers will help keep the blade from flexing. Great presentation anyway.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked the video!

I have to cut an inside hole and it will be production based so I have to figure out the most efficient way to cut it. I'm thinking of making a template first, then hand cutting the hole slightly larger with a jigsaw and then finishing it off with a flush trim router bit. Do you have a router bit you recommend? I think the double bearing bit seems like it provide the most flexibility. Thanks for showing all of the various options - extremely useful as I might be using at least a couple of them for my elevated dog dish projects.

@bwhite661

Жыл бұрын

You have a link to the single bearing bit but not the double one you used in the video.

cool. i think the jigsaw method is gonna work for me to cut out a 12" OD in sheetmetal

Have you tried using a scroll blade for the jigsaw method to help with the tearout?

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

I have not

I've tried that method using a jigsaw but all the time the blade was bending and not giving a clean circle. I'd like to try the router method.

Some very good ideas there. I am already thinking of uses for wooden circles. How would you go about making a circular frame?

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

After you cut the first outer circle, reduce the radius of the jig by 2x the width you want the remaining ring to be and then cut the second inner circle. However make sure the inner and outer area is secured (maybe 2 sided tape?) so you don't damage it when the inner circle separates from the outer ring.

@peterjf7723

2 жыл бұрын

@@MWAWoodworksThank you.

@dukeengine1339

2 жыл бұрын

I have another method. Did a frame for a clock but wanted to make it look nicer. The external side you do it with the table router, but inside? I made a jig with two straight sides at 90 degrees, the circumference centers itself on that borders and you can turn it to create nice shapes!

Simply create a zero-clearance plate for your jigsaw... voila... no tear out! The rest of your gig then remains the same as the one you demoed. You will also get an exact point of reference (the zero-clearance gap) as to where your blade is going to cut, as a bonus... just cut a large enough diameter hole behind it so that you can see this and also so that you can easily slip your jigsaw into your jig. Other alternatives are to simply to use down-cut or up-cut blades - but this way your 'tear-out' side will need to never be visible. With a zero-clearance base for your jigsaw you have a very safe method and a perfectly clean cut.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Excellent tips!

Which modell of CNC you have, Thank you

Bosh makes a killer up-down cut jig saw blade that has replaced almost every other wood cut blade I use. The teeth are configured so the upper teeth on the blade cut downward, and the lower teeth cut upward. They are not fast, but boy! are they clean. Check it out if you get a chance.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to check that out!

I made this jig drew my circle with it but my dewalt jag saw will not track on the line. The saw is 90⁰ from the holes ????

@freekg62

Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem. The film starts with the completed base plate with the hole for the jig saw and the little holes. Bit it is not explained how to line it up 90 degrees to the jig saw.

Love your video. What is the biggest size circle can you cut on a 9" band saw

@kermitfrog6350

2 ай бұрын

Only limited by your shop floor size. See Norm Abram's bandsaw cirlce cutting jig. Of course, you might need to rough cut corners based on the throat capacity of your band saw and your board size relative to the circle.

Good stuff. I use the tablesaw. I was shown to just drive a small finish nail in the sled then clip it off with side nippers. Works like a charm. I will say the table saw method is DANGEROUS. Don't lose focus and for Christ's sake, rotate the workpiece towards the blade, not the other way around.

Another possibility is buying what you need from a big box store for anyone getting starters with very limited tools and don’t know how to use these tools, yet! But in a pinch, not a bad alternative 🤷🏻‍♂️

There are two alternative ways to cut cleaner holes on the band saw. The first would be to try a different blade, you can go with a higher TPI, or a 1/4 or 1/8 inch blade, or both. Optionally, you could cut your circle a bit larger than needed, and sand down to your desired diameter. To get to your desired diameter, use a pencil to mark where your circle needs to be so that, when sanding time comes (YAY!!!) you know where to stop.

@kermitfrog6350

2 ай бұрын

You can also spin the circle slowly a couple more times along the bansaw blade to clean up the saw kerf ridges...

Anyone tey the sled method with a table saw mounted router? Typically table mounted routers are larger and could so more than 1/8” per pass and duat collection is a bit more effecrive. I may try it, just wondering if anyone has done it?

Norm Abram in his early episodes had a bandsaw jig for circles. He used it over the years to cut some pretty massive circles.

@bentucker1377

11 ай бұрын

It’s my favorite way

Any plans for all the circle pieces you now have? :)

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha maybe I'll invent a new game or something. Or just leave them in the corner of the shop (probably the latter) 😂

Would a thinner bandsaw blade with a higher tooth count give a smoother edge?

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly. You'd have to cut much slower though and risk breaking the blade depending on the material being cut

I prefer to crank my table saw blade up all the way and toss the square circle blank from across the room like a frisbee making sure to get enough rotation on the blank to see it rotate all the way around when it hits the blade. The key is not use a normal blade but one of those chippers from the cheapo dado sets that only has two teeth on it. Those really do the trick. It's a secret I've lept for many years but now you can all use it in your own shops. You welcome.

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 just get the right English on it and it will whip the finished circle right back at ya 🤣🤣😂

@mark-stefaniw

5 ай бұрын

... and just like that, I've got another circle ...

You like your battery dewalt router?

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Love it!

just put a bench same height as bandsaw table in place to support and rotate workpiece and then you can cut huge circles with the bandsaw.

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's true but typically that's a two man job done in a production shop not something a single person would attempt in a garage when there are much easier options available 👍

Jigsaw is great until the blade walks on you

Look how you explain pros&cons

Using the jig saw is tremendous to me: the cut never ends being perpendicular through the thickness of the piece and then it's dirty. For the table saw: since it goes through an arch cut, how can the two sides have the same circumference? Sorry for this question, I'm a mechanical engineer and that's my cross to bear... Thanks!

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's not really going through an arch cut. The saw blade is at 90 degrees to the work piece at all times

@kermitfrog6350

2 ай бұрын

Move the sled forward and back across the circular blade very slowly to obtain a consistant edge over the thickness of your workpiece. A Higher blade will cut more vertcally, but the exposed blade increases risk. Last...NEVER try the tablesaw method without a good push block...I saw a video the other day of the saw grabbing the circle and spinning the guy's hand into the blade lightening fast. Fortunately, he had a Saw Stop tablesaw and only got a small nick in one finger. It was scarey to see and I felt my heart jump through my throat as if it happened to me. Safety First😊

Salaam alaikum parvez Aslam good thanks so much love u 🇵🇰 very good thanks thanks 🤔 thanks 🤔 thanks

Forster?

I made an adjustable circle cutter for jigsaw . Link here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3iVr8Zqd63dYqQ.html

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Cool bro

Thanks for showing the difference between methods...I have to tell you I HATE jigsaws! How do you stop the damn blade from bending please? It leaves a beveled edge and sanding kills the arthritis...

@kermitfrog6350

2 ай бұрын

Cut much slower to minimize blade deflection...A relaxed cut is a happy cut (Too much Bob Ross?).

I don’t have a problem with the CNC myself except that I don’t have one lol. I bet the haters in our great grandparent’s generation thought the electric router was cheating!

@MWAWoodworks

2 жыл бұрын

For real tho

but,... the other guy just told me to move the router clockwise... ???

@MWAWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Counterclockwise on the outside of the circle and clockwise on the inside of the circle

@antoniomonteiro3698

Жыл бұрын

@@MWAWoodworks ah! thank you.

I have tried this and it is practically impossible to cut a perfect circle.

@crashbangwhallopwhatavideo

Ай бұрын

You being unable to do it might be more of a nod to your own ineptness than that of the method described...