Hi all, this is a re-upload of a video you might already have seen. Unfortunately, I got two numbers wrong when I said these were expenses per year until 2030, instead of expenses until 2030 (or 2035) respectively. There was also a graph at some point which was just unrelated to what I said and I took the opportunity to fix that, too. I am very sorry that this has happened. I try very hard to check all images and numbers by myself, but unfortunately, mistakes do happen. This video will have a very hard time. If you liked it the first time, I would appreciate if you could give the video a thumb up and just let it run until the end.

@Thomas-gk42

19 күн бұрын

Don´t worry, shows your integrity🌻

@Bassotronics

18 күн бұрын

No problem dear Sabine. Your information is fantastic.

@luisa9628

18 күн бұрын

Thanks for correcting yourself. It's nice to be reminded that journalism isn't totally dead and buried yet.

@EuroWarsOrg

18 күн бұрын

I ALWAYS do the opposite of what globalists say. That is why I am a pureblood.

@seanwright4976

18 күн бұрын

I had tried to verify that information to use in a presentation that I gave yesterday. I found the same thing you did in your correction. Perhaps your video descriptions could link sources, so things aren't quite so difficult to verify?

I'm ancient so I remember when people said cell phones would never take off because cell towers were expensive so it would only be a device for people that live in large cities.

@lhurst9550

11 күн бұрын

strawman argument, no comparasion at all.

@channelsofash

11 күн бұрын

@@lhurst9550 I don't know it seems like if you dig into the history of almost any technology there are always those people who will list all the reasons why some new technology will never take off.

@lhurst9550

11 күн бұрын

@@channelsofash Once again you bring up a point that does not matter. I agree with new tech and people not wanting to change however this is not the topic, rather energy density is. A battery cannot replace a gas tank till it can hold as much energy at about the same weight. No matter how much you wish you cannot change the laws of physics. The electric vehicle is great for short trips, not doing a lot of work, which is what trucks do. You have to generate enough electrical energy to do the work required, transport it, and store it inside of a vehicle before EVs replace ICE. It too over a 100 years to build the infrasture to do it with gas, give it another 50-75 and maybe.....

@vjanssens399

11 күн бұрын

​@@lhurst9550That's not a strawman argument

@lhurst9550

11 күн бұрын

@@vjanssens399 She changed to people not wanting to accept new tech, when the discussion is energy density. "A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, .." So yes it is.

In the EU in 2025 new Hybrid vehicles will get new efficiency ratings because the existing ones are 3 to 5 times too optimistic, so they will consume more carbon credits.

@angulion

11 күн бұрын

And this is for the same reason BEV's aren't sold more than they are - people live in flats and cannot charge over night.

I'm sure when the car was first invented people were like who is going to pay for all the roads. When the telegraph was invented, who's going to pay for all those lines. And when I was a kid "the Internet is growing too fast and it's going to crash"

@hansadler6716

17 күн бұрын

The horse industry (that employed hundreds of thousands of people in the very early 20th century) tried their best to get gas cars outlawed. The horse industry is now dead, just like the gas car industry will be in a few years.

@patrickm3981

16 күн бұрын

Wen the car was invented they used the same roads then horse-drawn carriages used. It took decades until the first roads specifically for cars were built. It is also worth mentioning that for a few years (roughly 1890 to 1910) electric cars dominated the market although for sure the power grid at the time was also not that good. There were three main reasons why combustion cars took over. The invention of the starter removed the problem that combustion cars were cumbersome to start. Standard Oil was able to provide cheap fuel which btw. also led to other fuels like ethanol being wiped from the market. Finally the cars with gasoline had a superior range. The result was that within a short time the era of electric cars was over. These 3 factors which are convenience, price and range are still the factors that will decide which type of car will be used. If the price of electric energy will go through the roof as the transition of the power grid needs to be payed then the life time of combustion engines might be longer then expected.

@falloutgirl2230

16 күн бұрын

Yep, I agree. We have been driving the same way for over 100 years. I am sure 100 years from now, we will be teleporting or something because humans will cease to exist when AI takes over.

@davefellhoelter1343

16 күн бұрын

Sorry Wrong, it was a "HORSE Less" Carriage and used the same trails. but you are on the correct path. This is WHY Westinghouse and Tesla went to WAR with Edison! Edison was a scumbag who wanted DC and owned all the generation of DC, cared only of profits and power. Westinghouse and Tesla wanted to Improve Mankind and our living standards.

@goyc

15 күн бұрын

Here in Slovenia over 2/3 of households can't connect their solar panels to the grid and sell electricity because power grid just isn't strong enough. Now we usually have 1x35A or 3x20A main fuzzes and after "green transition" when we should all heat our homes with heat pumps and drive electric cars 3x35A would be minimal. Next question is how will people who can only park their vehicles on public parking spaces charge their cars. Charging it on public charging stations is already more expensive then filling your tank with diesel. People whose income is already below average will get even more poor.

At this point, I'm tempted to buy a cargo bike and take the bus when needed

@heisag

18 күн бұрын

I did that 27 years ago. And still do it that way. However, i do live in Norway, and with a short distance to work, that is pretty much all i need when it comes down to daily transport. Yes, i know i am fairly lucky beeing able to only depend on my (electric) bicycle. I've no problems with other people who see cars as better suited for their transportation needs though. And i can't deny that cars may be better suited for larger cargo. Still, driving a car is like moving 1 or 2 tons of plastic and metal and enjoying the ride. I do wonder sometimes how much of the energy is actually used to move the driver , since the driver is probaly 10-20 times lighter then the car itself.

@logtothebase2

18 күн бұрын

Done, although cheated and kept the car for hauling family couple of times a week, so actually I haven't, love using my bike through its the first choice if I can

@werner.x

18 күн бұрын

Keep in mind, that cargo bikes don't come with air condition.

@DotArve

18 күн бұрын

An electric cargo bike is a much better idea for the environment than owning a car. It gets most of what you need done, at a rate of speed that is more than good enough for most people who don't currently have 1-hour commutes. You'll contribute to needing fewer/smaller roads, rather than massive road projects that merely by existing have a significant negative contribution to handling CO2. The added bonus is that you'll also likely suffer from fewer and less severe age-related health issues as you age. Public transportation, as long as it's feasible is also a great option. I currently live somewhere where I can travel as much as I need by bus for less than 50EUR/month, which has led to me feeling very little need for a car for my everyday needs. .

@AJarOfYams

18 күн бұрын

@@werner.x Very true, and no roof to shield from rain and sleet

I used to charge at 2 am when excess power was being generated by coal and nuclear which couldn't be turned down too low. Now that I have solar, I charge at 1 pm in the afternoon when I'm exporting more than anyone can use.

@PeachesCourage

18 күн бұрын

CONDENSED AIR CAR ON KZread COSTS NEXT TO NOTHING TO FUEL INVENTED BY FRENCHMAN IN EARLY 2000 NOW SOUPED UP TOO BOTH ARE ON KZread AND COST NEXT TO NOTHING TO FUEL

@chrisdonovan8795

18 күн бұрын

I just got solar, and your plan was my plan, but with current gas use of around $15/week, the inevitable battery replacement cost negates my savings. Furthermore, the price of the EV is more to begin with (not to mention the investment in the panels). I'm all for the environment, but relying on a relatively few amount of people to save the environment is not going to work. The solar/EV solution needs to be financially attractive to a lot of people. Again, I'm all for the environment, and I'm glad that you're benefiting at the moment, but if this doesn't scale up in a sustainable way, it's going to hurt more than help.

@SDGreg

18 күн бұрын

@@chrisdonovan8795 "the inevitable battery replacement cost negates my savings." What are you thinking is the lifecycle of EV batteries?

@maladyofdeath

18 күн бұрын

My coworker has installed solar panels to his house which powers the house completely, charges both of his electric vehicles, and has sufficient power remaining to send power to the grid. He gets paid by the power company monthly for power return. Yes its expensive upfront ($30k) but with his 10 year warranty on the solar panels, he will come out ahead no doubt.

@tjmozdzen

18 күн бұрын

@@chrisdonovan8795 I may or may not break even. However, if the utilities scale up solar, there will be more than enough power for people to charge during the day (especially here in Phoenix). The Russian use of natural gas to blackmail Europe pushed me over the edge to get solar.

"Gasoline smells good!" Loved that :))))))))

@JasonTaylor-po5xc

7 күн бұрын

I was never a fan of the smell of gas.

@pf100andahalf

13 сағат бұрын

​@@JasonTaylor-po5xcit depends a lot on where and how you smell it. When I'm putting gas in a car at the pump it's oddly pleasant but if I get it on my hands or spill some indoors it's awful

This argument seems to be, let's keep burning fossil fuel in combustion engines. You can call them hybrid cars if you want, but they are still irrevocably tied to the fossil fuel industry and a total reliance of fuel burning technology. Hybrid cars are petrol cars with a lot of extra, complex, heavy technology strapped to them. Brilliant technological step during the 2000's and the first step away from 100% reliance of inefficient fuel burning combustion engines. Now. A dormant and pointless technology. Hossenfelder lists of strings of huge numbers related to how much grid expansion is needed in the next 20 to 30 years. It's billions. She did, as always, entirely ignore the amount of money leaving the EU to pay for importing liquid hydrocarbons to burn in these hybrids. According to Statista, in 2022 the EU burned 18.7 million barrels of oil a day, which at current oil prices of $88 a barrel, is one billion six hundred forty-five million dollars a day. Every day. But you know, carry on pushing fuel burning combustion vehicles, Germany's economy is built around the combustion car industry, they make very good cars.

@garyballard179

15 күн бұрын

Guess what.... Electric vehicles still rely heavily on "fossil fuels."

@kenjones1327

15 күн бұрын

The quality of those cars is debatable. The cost to repair/maintain BMW or Mercedes is considerably more than a tesla

@dmitrizaslavski8480

14 күн бұрын

How much grid expansion is needed? Cost? What about electricity production capacity? For now EU is struggling to force fossils out of electricity production to cover CURRENT ELECTRICITY needs but you are talking about moving away from fossils in all energy sector? It is crazy as it would take not even 10 times more renewable production but closer to 30 times more. It is impossible in the next several decades regardless.

@MrElvis1971

14 күн бұрын

In Australia, cars contribute to less than 10% of the total carbon emissions. I assume it's similar in the rest of the world. Seems quite ridiculous that so much mental energy is dedicated to 10% of the problem.

@animistchannel

14 күн бұрын

@@MrElvis1971 Worldwide, ground transport vehicles amount to about half the emissions, so yes it is a huge factor.

I think battery prices will continue to fall. They will be 50% of what they are today in 2 years. This completely changes the economics. Hybrids will no longer be a price compromise between BEV and ICE. BEV will be the least expensive to purchase. ICE will be next. The powertrain cost for a BEV will be less than the powertrain cost for an ICE. It will cost more money to build a car with two inexpensive powertrains, leading to hybrids being the most expensive option. As we add grid batteries to the system we can collect all that excess power that was not needed when it was produced. Power prices will go down compared to gasoline prices. People vote with their wallets.

@lars5288

18 күн бұрын

People pay more money for the better product. And when there is no charging option at every parking spot, this technology will never hit the market as a mass product. Your smartphone would not be a mass product if you could only charge it at home, and only if you have your own dedicated charger. And even if you had, if outside your home hundreds of phones would have to share one charging station and only one per time, you can guess that nobody would use smartphones. This product fails by design. You would not ride a horse that you can't feed food and water anywhere, why would you? And 50% of what they cost today is another thing that will make it fail. It would need to be the third of the cost of a basic gasoline car of today to compensate for all the pitfalls that come with the product. And you forget that the most regions on earth make it physically impossible to use electric vehicles, neither the climate, the weather, nor the infrastructure would ever allow it. Even in developed countries it will never be fully useable. Just one major power outage and everyone will abandon their electric cars and demand fossils to return. You can see how often electronic devices fail, even things like paying with credit card isn't possible every once in a while. For elementary things like mobility the analogue systems have nothing that could replace them.

@JohnBoen

18 күн бұрын

​@@lars5288 //...when there is no charging option at every parking spot, this technology will never hit the market as a mass product. I disagree - there is a great deal of money to be made by allowing customers to use a slow charger for free while shopping. 15kw chargers could easily be put up along streets and parking lots. if you drive 40 miles a day or less that is under 1 hour of charging. 1% of cars are EVs - just because of the lifespan of cars, this cannot change by more than about 5-10% per year. that is 20 years before we need to be completed. //Your smartphone would not be a mass product if you could only charge it at home, and only if you have your own dedicated charger. I think we have 20 years to build up capacity to support a 100% EV fleet, and that evaluating things based on the first year is a mistake.. We can manage what we have now - and we can easily add 5% capacity per year. //50% of what they cost today is another thing that will make it fail. It would need to be the third of the cost of a basic gasoline car of today to compensate for all the pitfalls that come with the product. I disagree. You only need to consider the powertrain because the rest of the car uses common components and processes. Labor is greatly reduced on the EV powertrain, and materials cost will soon be lower as well. //And you forget that the most regions on earth make it physically impossible to use electric vehicles, neither the climate, the weather, nor the infrastructure would ever allow it. No. It is much easier to produce a solar infrastructure than a gasoline infrastructure. An electric infrastructure is needed by society, but a gasoline infrastructure is not. People in the cold land of Finland are very happy with their electric cars - 70%. //Even in developed countries it will never be fully useable. You are predicting the future - I disagree with your prediction. Just one major power outage and everyone will abandon their electric cars and demand fossils to return. With many grad batteries in place there will be no more power outages. If there is a power outage, can you pump gasoline? If it gets so bad that you cannot charge your car, you also will not be able to find gasoline. People can make electricity, but people cannot make their own gasoline. (unless you want run your own biodiesel factory). //You can see how often electronic devices fail, even things like paying with credit card isn't possible every once in a while. Yes you can. Itis called MTBF - Mean Time Between Failure. Electromechanical systems are on the order of 10,000 hours. Elechtrochemical systems are on the order of 1,000 hours. if you assume 30 miles per hours, 1,000 hours would be 30,000 miles - your first service check. For an EV you check the oil in the gearboxes at 150,000... //For elementary things like mobility the analogue systems have nothing that could replace them. Electrical systems are about twice as energy efficient. if this fuel were used in power plants instead of incars we would use far less fuel.

@HailAzathoth

18 күн бұрын

Yeah until we run out of lithium and have to mine it from sea water

@nuwanpremarathne1759

18 күн бұрын

You are talking about a future that doesn't exist in the present moment. BEVs had more than 15 years to prove their sustainability and practicality. And now people have decided the improvements they've made is not enough. So it's hybrids for the foreseeable future.

@JohnBoen

18 күн бұрын

@nuwanpremarathne1759 As an engineer, it is my job to predict when technologies will be available at a price point. Of course, ai am talking about a future that does not exist yet. I do it all the time - I am extremely good at these predictions. This is why I state them confidently - my track record of success. No - BEVs have not been around for 15 years in the same way as they are today. 15 years ago Li-ion batteries included solvents that would boil at about 130F and they would pop when hot. That technology hasn't been used since 2012. There have been significant advancements in power electronics, batteries, motors, braking, manufacturing, software, etc every few years over the last 15 years. It is like you were suggesting that today's smartphone is just like the phone of 15 years ago. Major improvements continue to happen every few years. This scares people. It has a name from the 80s - the Osborne Effect. You start talking about how much better the next version will be and people decide to wait. You lose business by doing this... you also cause people to stop buying the competition...

Electric car owner here. It’s true, Sabine. Electric cars do accelerate faster. Much faster.

@joesterling4299

18 күн бұрын

They have to have *something* going for them.

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

And deplete that battery quite nicely with that

@texanplayer7651

18 күн бұрын

​@@joesterling4299They are also quieter and cost less to drive, they also have fewer parts, and therefore less wear and tear, so they break down much less. And in a handful of years I am convinced that the infrastructure will be fully operational to accomodate, meaning no more range anxiety.

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

@@texanplayer7651 "so they break down much less" and when they do they'll be a write off, bit funny bit its true now isn't it, less parts as in a glued in battery for smartphones.

@clray123

18 күн бұрын

So do trams.

What I personally like the most is how quiet they are inside. For someone that doesn't like loud sounds it was a revelation to listen to the radio on a low volume inside my car.

@KeithMilner

17 күн бұрын

I love that, but I also love the lack of fumey, fuelly smells. When I get in an ICE care these days, the smell is noticeable.

@Scott_Hoge

16 күн бұрын

Yes, not everyone thinks gas-powered cars smell good. I think they smell putrid. I literally carry a benzene gas mask through the parking lot to deal with today's herd of trucks and SUVs.

@ialrakis5173

16 күн бұрын

@@Scott_Hoge agree, every time I filled up my car in the past I could smell it on my hand for hours.

@michen25

15 күн бұрын

But at the same time, they are quite outside. Which can be very or extremely (!) dangerous. Old and infants do not hear and see anymore the car. Thus the rate of accidents can jump.

@lukeusherwood2525

15 күн бұрын

@@michen25 "As of 1 January 2014, most of the hybrids and plug-in electric and hybrids sold make warning noises using a speaker system" (when travelling at low speeds, before tyre noise takes over). Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle_warning_sounds#Market_availability

If everyone were to drive plug-in hybrids, and most people’s daily driving is entirely in EV mode because the electric mileage is sufficient to accommodate it, then how does that significantly change the power grid needs? The average EV owner will likely drive the same miles as the plug-in electric owner and require the same amount of recharging.

@typhoon320i

10 күн бұрын

I guess when the grid collapses (if that is the worry) the hybrid can drive on with gas.

@phil20_20

10 күн бұрын

Because they can charge at home most of the time, whereas an all electric is dependent on the availabilty away from home. Gas stations are ubiquitous, because they already put EV manufacturers out of business over a century ago so they could sell oil.

@GrahamLea

10 күн бұрын

Unfortunately a recent report into the fuel efficiency of cars in Europe showed that PHEV drivers charge their cars far less often than expected, and end up using a lot of fuel. Emissions were hence 5x what was expected, from memory.

@stevenclarke7777

9 күн бұрын

@@typhoon320i come on people, think! If the grid collapses, there won't be any gas, because the gas stations use ELECTRIC pumps!

@onlyme972

9 күн бұрын

When you try to sell it your in for a big shock, even dealers won't take one in px and if it needs repair it's an expensive specialist job, insurers write them off rather than pay for repairs that may be more than the cars worth😮

If the problem is bureaucracy then change the system, not the ambition that comes from necessity to convert the transportation and home devices to electric and raise the percentage of renewable production added to the grid.

@MrElvis1971

17 күн бұрын

It's not even about bureaucracy... it's just economics. USA sources only 20% from renewable.... the conversion process is slow. First transistor was invented in 1947 it took 50 years for home computers to start to take off along with the internet. Infrastructure can not transform that quickly. The main reason is people don't want to pay for it unless it pays for itself through natural and sustainable revenues.

@nyanbrox5418

17 күн бұрын

The bearocracy that stifles innovation will fail spectacularly, and in such an event what typically follows is reform

@nyanbrox5418

17 күн бұрын

Gridscale energy storage deployment is indeed self funding due to the high margins, and the load reduction on existing infrastructure means you can effectively upgrade our existing systems without having to make as many expansions as you'd otherwise expect Also, regarding acceleration of infrastructure development, that is exactly what can, will, and is already happening, won't be easy ofc, but gridscale and local energy storage is basically the solution

@AlgernonBrosplitz

17 күн бұрын

Haha, change the system... oh young one

@iareid8255

17 күн бұрын

Fikretyet, it is not bureaucracy, that's the error. The biggest mistake is in thinking you can power a grid, and hence a country, with renewable generation. To electrify transport and heating is simply compounding that error. Renewables are not an equivalent to conventional generation, they cannot control output feeding a system that has to be finely controlled on an instantaneous basis. Then intermittency is another and in my view the most significant obstacle that will not be overcome. It is infeasible to have sufficient battery capacity to meet that deficiency. Then there are technical deficiencies, no inertia, no reactive power input, no short circuit current level input and also in view of all those deficiencies, renewables are not capable of a black start to restore power when the inevitable grid trip happens.

I think horse and buggies are the future. But I think it will be a while before we reach that future.

@RS-ls7mm

18 күн бұрын

2040 ish supposedly.

@user-em1nn4nv7j

18 күн бұрын

you mean WWIII is nigh??

@werner.x

18 күн бұрын

Not so much time, probably. Germany already sells out it's steel production. But we need to plant more trees anyhow. Plenty of wood for carriages. And people here love horses.

@MarshallMathersthe7th

18 күн бұрын

Be the early adaptor! Buy a horse and carriage today!

@philochristos

18 күн бұрын

@@MarshallMathersthe7th I'm waiting on the infrastructure to catch up.

When I stated college I drove four hundred miles of two lane highway, one each way, built in the 1920s, previously a dirt road for stage coaches and wagons. It was not at any point level or straight and had two gas stations for that distance, neither at the mid point, so you stopped at both to do that stretch. If you mismanaged it no tow truck coming, but the once or twice a day state highway patrol would carry a few spare gallons for you. Even then you were still short 290 miles from college, but in more occupied areas. Basically a three stop journey at least taking about ten hours. Assuming your radiator didn't give out on a 100 plus day on a tar black road of about 150 degrees in the summer. Without AC, just very hot wind blowing through your car. I could mention more potential problems like washed out roads, dust storms, head on wrecks, loose animals on the road as you topped the rise a hundred feet away, etc. It took two years of that stretch to finish Interstate 10. There were workers camps set up in the drastic remote area to accommodate this national agenda started by President Eisenhower. All goods, water, etc was trucked to these camps on the same and only narrow two lanes. If a large truck came down one lane he was bigger than the lane, so everyone pulled over to let him continue before proceeding now in single file at the speed of the slowest vehicle which always ends up in front automatically. So, when people complain about change, aggravation, alternatives, theories, altering future history, how bad things are or were, while having no accurate knowledge of history or experience with it, I think of wimps, mindless peons, spoiled youth and lack of education from real teachers instead of propaganda sellers. 😮 It makes no matter what I or anyone thinks about EVs or AI or robotaxis or economics or climate change or renewable energy replacing fossil fuels, etc. It's unavoidable and inevitable and debating it is mostly pointless. It has to happen. It's predictable and logical and if you don't like it too bad. It's fun to ride horses, but their pets now and not the mandatory necessity they once were. EVs are themselves only a transition to what comes next which is already bearing down on us. There are more changes lined up for this century alone just in transportation as an industry. People are living in a former world, clutching desperately for something dying and the end already known. No history stands still or unchanged and now the world is in a rapidly accelerating future, like a snow sled careening faster and faster. You can't stop it and barely steer it. You can only hold on and face it like a man or an animal. Me? I'm excited, happy, like challenges and accept evolution of the adaption of species or extinction. 😊. Those that can't won't matter. 😮. That's the nature of life.

@diegoolivarez1

9 күн бұрын

Wow, amazingly written!

@PlanetEarth3141

8 күн бұрын

@@diegoolivarez1 Thanks. I take pride in my education since every skill depends on clear speaking, very good writing and understanding exact understanding of reading, not unclear interpretation. Those three foundations determine everything else.🤔

Question for you Sabine. How did all the trains and all the railroads become electrified? Why were there no hybrid locomotives left? Diesel electric

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

because nobody asked where the electricity for the trains is coming from. if people would ask where the electricity for the trains is coming from, all the trains in the world would stop immediately.

@valentinjuhasz8640

14 күн бұрын

Because trains are powered via high voltage wires with no need for portable electricity or battery packs.

@jsharpe45

13 күн бұрын

steam power in much more efficient, and a small 'submarine' type' reactor could power a steam locomotive for long time.

@mrvwbug4423

8 күн бұрын

Electric trains came before diesel trains, that's why. Electric trains were invented in the late 19th century and were implemented heavily by the 1930s. The first diesel locomotives appeared in the 1920s and didn't fully replace steam locomotives until the 1960s. Also electric trains take their power directly off the wire and don't need batteries or any advanced tech at all.

@buellterrier3596

6 күн бұрын

Question to you: Have you ever seen battery-powered trains?

Funny because Hybrids still have crazy expensive batteries. I found out the hard way by buying a used hybrid. The battery lasts 150,000 miles, then its to the recyclers because it wont be worth the 5000+ investment in a replacement.

@apostolakisl

18 күн бұрын

Chris Fix has a video on how to replace the Prius battery yourself for substantially less money.

@FLPhotoCatcher

18 күн бұрын

Hybrids are not the way forward. They have many more parts than EVs, and that's an understatement. So they also break down more, and are a big expense over their lifetime. They also catch fire much more often than EVs, making more pollution.

@europaeuropa3673

18 күн бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher expensive repairs are not the answer.

@cidercreekranch

18 күн бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher We've owned a Prius for ten years and the only repairs have been scheduled maintenance and recalls to update the hybrid system firmware. Having owned three Toyotas in the past 15 years, none have needed any major repairs other than scheduled maintenance and recalls.

@alansnyder8448

18 күн бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher You are WRONG about breaking down more often. My wife has a Chevy Volt with 110,000 miles on it and its engine is doing great. The reason is the engine has only driven 30,000 of those miles and it is very lightly used when it does. We have 100+ years of experience with designing ICE engines and they have been well-researched and optimized in that time. EV cars just are not ready yet.

One thing that people tend to forget is that fuel diversity is important. It should not be about changing to an entire different thing rather having many options to reduce the strain on one system and having options for when one gets too expensive.

@malcolm8564

18 күн бұрын

Provided they're all zero co2.

@CmdrCorn

18 күн бұрын

I dont think world leaders want more options for citizens. More options means less control. If anything, the move to electric is some large percentage about making travel energy less fungible. With liquid petrol you can pack an extra 300 miles in the back, but with electric, your access, rates, and ability to redistribute are completely managable remotely. Maybe when we can pick up a fresh battery as easy as a can of propane we will be in business...

@wertigon

18 күн бұрын

You are not wrong. However, from that perspective electricity gives a whole lot more of different fueling options ranging from Solar to Synthetics to Wave power to Nuclear power to Diesel to Coal to Biofuels. Just buy one of many different available generators. Problem solved, and added range to that fuel to boot.

@erikdedecker1943

18 күн бұрын

The majority of new EV owners immediately install solar panels reducing the load on the grid. So there is no issue, on the contrary. EV accelerates the green transition only making the grid more and more irrelevant.

@PeachesCourage

18 күн бұрын

A FRENCHMAN INVENTED AN CONDENSED AIR CAR AND IT'S ON KZread EARLY IN 2000 ON THE SCIENCE CHANNEL THERE ARE REALLY SOUPED UP ONES ON KZread NOW AS WELL AND IT COSTS NEXT TO NOTHING TO FUEL IT TOO IT WENT AT FIRST UP TO 72 MI PER HOUR

i believe you think the infrastructure scale wrong. we don't need a centralized grid that makes loading possible for everyone, everywhere. most driving is commuting/shopping/visiting close by friends. You can do all that with PV on your roof that loads your ev while you are at home/your friends home. the whole make energy at spot X, transfer it through half the country, and then use it is simply a wrong approach that will be fixed in the future.

The clip for “The transition isn’t going as smoothly as hoped” is pretty fun.

Hybrids are expensive to repair.

@joesterling4299

18 күн бұрын

As are EVs, should anything go wrong (usually, the ultra-expensive battery). Plug-in hybrids are BEVs with an auxiliary ICE generator that kicks in when the battery runs low. They're no more complex than a battery-electric pickup truck hauling a generator on its bed.

@surkh

18 күн бұрын

@@joesterling4299 PHEVs have two powertrains that can break, and need to be maintained and repaired. To your point, PHEV are like a BEV + generator. But, only the generator part needs constant maintenance, and trips to the station to fill up. In addition to all this, the most efficient PHEV have a separate bypass mode that provides a direct coupling for constant highway speed operation. How about this. Take a PHEV, simplify it, and put the generator at home or in "gas stations", and just beef up the battery... further simplify the system and just replace the generator with a charger....lo and behold, you've got a BEV.

@Welgeldiguniekalias

18 күн бұрын

Gas cars are expensive to maintain.

@MarshallMathersthe7th

18 күн бұрын

@@surkh Constant maintenance of the engine? Idk what world you live, but my 20 year old cars engine doesn't need ''constant maintenance'' it just needs an oil change every 15k km and a new airfilter..

@yodaiam1000

18 күн бұрын

@@joesterling4299 My EV has actually been really cheap to maintain compared to any ICE that I have ever owned. There is actually resources that show the maintenance is a lot cheaper as well. It is very rare to have a drivetrain battery go wrong on a BEV. PHEV are more susceptible to battery issues.

You have a 20 trillion dollar economy and need to spend 500 billion to upgrade your grid. That should be a rounding error.

@C0wCakes

14 күн бұрын

According to IMF figures, Globally $7 trillion per year is spent subsidising fossil fuels. Image the grid that could be belt using that money there instead.

@dmitrizaslavski8480

14 күн бұрын

@@C0wCakes No one "spent" 7 trillions in 2022. IMF counts "impact on the world" as subsidy, but it doesn't mean that someone actually paid this much money.

@robertherman1146

12 күн бұрын

The estimated cost for upgrading the US grid for ev’s, new and upcoming data centers, crypto mining, mandated electric appliances is actually more like $3.7 trillion. Who’s going to pay for that, you Lt. Weinberg??

@SergePavlovsky

12 күн бұрын

@@C0wCakes where do you think money for making of this video come from? they are part of those $7 trillions

@SergePavlovsky

12 күн бұрын

@@robertherman1146 who paid for creation of current us grid, dummy? electricity consumers. sale of electricity is profitable business.

Should we talk about the demand on mining of rare earth elements for the electronics, batteries, magnets? recovery from written-off EVs to recycle?

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

which are all getting recycled.

If a very hot summer or a very cold winter still causes blackouts just because ACs or heaters… 🤷🏻‍♂️

At least here in the U.S we don't necessarily need to update the gride itself, We need to encentivise home owners and apartments need to adops Solar pannels and Battery technology, keep the energy siloed where it needs to be instead of trying to ship electricity across the whole country.

@jgreen9361

19 сағат бұрын

Take a look at sand battery technology. It’s basically a very large community based thermal energy store. Once renewable electricity is above base load on the grid it makes a very cheap store for energy.

@Rondoggy67

13 сағат бұрын

Yes, definitely. However, that still needs an upgrade to electricity supply networks, because existing networks are not designed to cope intelligently with that level of distributed generation. A full national integration of networks with smart distribution is needed.

Possibly, but at least in the U.K. I listened to a senior grid engineer say that upgrades to cope were planned and adequate.

@adus123

18 күн бұрын

I think the rest of the world will just be fine coping with electric cars. Apart from Germany Where red tape is more important than progress.

@werner.x

18 күн бұрын

Of course they do. It's likewise in Germany. Gouvernment doesn't consider it appropriate to keep the level of individual traffic as high as it currently is. So, make it unappealing to buy cars like we used to in the past is part of the plan. Then the grid will be sufficient in 2035, that's what they did tell us in their great wisdom. At least in Germany. But i'd think, the UK gouvernment has at least the same level of wisdom.

@Cumdown

18 күн бұрын

Where will the electricity come from?

@RS-ls7mm

18 күн бұрын

Its fun to plan but someone has to pay for it and that's where things fall apart.

@PixelRatedGames

18 күн бұрын

can confirm - UK grid is very much on track.

It's really hard to beat the combination of energy density and easy room-temperature storage that you get with liquid hydrocarbons. Maybe all this money being spent on other fuel technologies would be better spent on scrubbing CO2 from the atmosphere. Those facilities can be optimized for performance since they don't have tradeoffs due to having to be heavy and mobile and carry delicate passengers around at 100 kph.

I built an E-Trike 48V 20A LiFePO4 battery. I have enough patio roof to have solar that charges one battery while I use the the other. In a black out I can power my fridge and monitor for a few hours on one battery looking at getting a few more to extend usage and by swapping them out gives them longer life. The E-Trike can go a week or so between charges.

As a Hybrid owner, battery replacement costs makes them much less attractive.

@adus123

18 күн бұрын

At least that's not a problem with electric cars. It's extremely unlikely you'll ever need to replace a battery on an electric car (Exclude the 12 volt battery)

@BaybieK

4 күн бұрын

Why would you be replacing the battery? There are many Teslas that have done over 500k miles and one that's done a million with only 75% degradation

@picksalot1

4 күн бұрын

@@BaybieK The batteries need to be replaced when they will no longer hold a charge, or too many have shorted out. The Lithium Batteries don't last forever. If I remember right, the typical life is around 7-10 years.

@jgreen9361

19 сағат бұрын

No, you are confusing typical life and guaranteed life.

@picksalot1

19 сағат бұрын

@@jgreen9361 I'm not confused when the Dealer said it would cost $7,000 to replace the batteries, parts and labor on a 2001 Toyota Prius.

How long did it take to go from horse to car because the infrastructure was not there?

@nasser314

18 күн бұрын

It took around 25-50 years for the transition from Horses to Cars depending on what % of horse vs cars user ratio you would consider for the transition to be complete. 25 years for horses to not be the main mode of transportation and around 50 for horses to be almost non-existent as a means of transport.

@vibratingstring

18 күн бұрын

Also, it was actually horse-->bicycle/streetcar-->car. So not straight to cars...and significant overlap with streetcars through wwii

@greengraciano6846

18 күн бұрын

The infrastructure was there?

@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ

18 күн бұрын

If you look back of photos of New York it took about 20 years, in 1890 horses everywhere, by 1912 mostly trucks and cars

@eddydogleg

18 күн бұрын

@@nasser314 I think it was dependent on where you lived and economical circumstances. My parents were still using horses to get to school and to town into the early 50's. Neither had grid electricity until 1958.

Is this a re-do? I think you did this video before, or it has been a really long day, and I am remembering this morning.

Yes, there is efficiency gained by generating electricity from fossil fuels and then using that electricity to power electric vehicles, compared to using gasoline-powered internal combustion engines directly[1]. The key reasons are: 1. Power plants are more efficient at converting fossil fuels into electricity than internal combustion engines are at converting gasoline into mechanical energy. Power plants can achieve 33-44% efficiency, compared to only 15-30% efficiency for car engines[1]. 2. Electric motors in EVs are much more efficient at converting electricity into mechanical energy, around 90% efficient, compared to the 20% efficiency of internal combustion engines[1]. 3. Regenerative braking in EVs allows them to recover energy during braking, further improving their efficiency compared to gas-powered vehicles[3]. 4. Even when accounting for electricity transmission and charging losses, EVs are still 2.5 to 6 times more efficient at using the energy from the power grid compared to gasoline vehicles[2]. So while the electricity for EVs may still come partly from fossil fuels, the overall efficiency gains make EVs significantly more energy-efficient and environmentally-friendly than traditional gasoline-powered cars[1][3]. Sources [1] Electrifying transportation reduces emissions AND saves massive ... yaleclimateconnections.org/2022/08/electrifying-transportation-reduces-emissions-and-saves-massive-amounts-of-energy/ [2] How much electricity would it take to power all cars if they were electric? usafacts.org/articles/how-much-electricity-would-it-take-to-power-all-cars-if-they-were-electric/ [3] Are electric cars better for the environment if the power comes ... www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineers/comments/16676c3/are_electric_cars_better_for_the_environment_if/ [4] Fossil Fuels, Renewable Energy, and Electric Vehicles - State of the Planet news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/02/21/fossil-fuels-renewable-energy-and-electric-vehicles/ [5] Where the Energy Goes: Electric Cars - Fuel Economy www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/atv-ev.shtml

According to insurance numbers in the US, per 100K sold, EVs are only involved in ~25 fires. That number jumps to ~1,500 for ICE vehicles, and all the way to ~3,000 for hybrids. Are you sure you want a hybrid?

@SabineHossenfelder

18 күн бұрын

I don't want a hybrid. I'm just saying I think this is how things will develop.

@timjohnson3913

18 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelderBut you also liked the comment: “I cannot believe vehicles carrying a ton of batteries will ever be a good idea”. That’s kind of how EVs work for the foreseeable future.

@antoniotorcoli5740

18 күн бұрын

What about the new prototypes of hydrogen engines? The production of green, blue and white hydrogen is constantly increasing.

@gurito4374

18 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder According to project drawdown the cheapest way to lower carbon emissions is to build bicycle infrastructure, i think this video should be tempered by maybe covering some of their suggestions for fighting climate change.

@MrElvis1971

18 күн бұрын

That's a misleading statistic as many cars are set on fire as they are stolen vehicles, false insurance claims, or acts of revenge. The cause of the fire is not what is being reported in insurance data, but the cause of the damage to the car is.

I have had an electric vehicle for nearly three years. I have a 7 kw charger at home. It costs me £12 €15 every 14 days and I don't use public charging stations.

@richardkammerer2814

17 күн бұрын

They can be very useful for driving about a town or perhaps a county where the weather is moderate.

@T_Mo271

17 күн бұрын

Good for you. Works nice for your situation.

@Gemini_0815

17 күн бұрын

@@richardkammerer2814 define moderate. We use our EV all year round including snow&ice and hot summer. No issues so far. The range when freezing cold drops a bit, but it’s still plenty for what we need. Still we should’ve bought a PHEV, is what I think now. Because then we wouldn’t need a third car. Now we do.

@cubertmiso4140

17 күн бұрын

@@Gemini_0815can you see stats about how much the car uses energy to keep the battery warm when there are -20c at the outside?

@richardkammerer2814

17 күн бұрын

@@Gemini_0815 When we go to the family reunion 600 miles away in state park territory, that’s a moderate drive.

Oh my goodness, it just cannot work. There are no gasoline stations!

It is almost like central planning does not work...

Near Pittsburgh, they tore down a power plant and left the old "low" voltage transmission lines. So old, and so low voltage (short insulators) then had to run 6 lines across 3 towers. These wires span heavily populated areas and highways. They aren't connected at the remains of the power station which is now demolished. These towers and lines are abandoned. My new hobby is not bird watching, but grid watching. It's very interesting. And I even found a substation where a transmission line terminates with no visible outgoing lines - it has a set of large fan cooled units with nothat that resembles a transformer.

Electric cars are probably the future, but the technology is probably not mature enough as a consumer product, yet. That does not mean we will not get there eventually. I think there are a few problems: 1. the battery evidently still has limited capacity, 2. EVs are heavier, so there is more kinetic energy necessary to reach the same speed, and in case of a crash, that energy will be transformed in a lot of trouble, 3. multistorey car parks are often not build for heavier cars either; 4. the electric grids are often not made to transfer such large loads of energy (in countries like the Netherlands, these are reaching the capacity, so no more EVs can be charged directly); 5. electric cars are slightly cleaner than ICE cars, but the difference is not "revolutionary", especially since a lot of energy goes into *constructing* the vehicle; 6. the resources for batteries are like any resource, limited, and often require mining in third world countries.

@noidea3p5

18 күн бұрын

Agree, give it another century or two

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

@@noidea3p5 hahahahahahahaha. Have to agree though, am quite tired of the ever coming fusion reactors.... it'll be here in just 30 more years (again)

@RS-ls7mm

18 күн бұрын

@@xerr0n Mr Fusion powered car will probably be the only practical tech.

@Lypiatt

18 күн бұрын

They are the future; cleaner, quieter, simpler, faster, longer lasting, cheaper to run. There were two disadvantages. They were more expensive. That has already been solved. We have yet to see it in Europe and USA, but it is the case in China, it is a done deal technically. They didn’t go as far and were slower to re-charge. The new batteries already exist to solve for that, they’re just not widespread yet, but it is a done deal technically. Legislation already exists to delete ICE cars by the mid-2030’s. That is a done deal. So, electric cars are the future, no maybe about it. The tech is already mature enough, and it will still get better, unlike ICE which has changed little in 30 years. It is true that we’ll get there eventually, it’ll take a few years yet to transition to the point everybody accepts it.

@werner.x

18 күн бұрын

Don't you know, that the electric car was on the road and functioning in practice years before the gas powered car came along? How many centuries of development do you think we need to make electric cars equally impractical as an up to date gas powered Volkswagen? And would you buy this ripened product then?

Thanks Sabine. The power grid is only one of the issues facing battery cars. Another is the production and cost of the batteries themselves, which are also resource-intensive and come with geopolitical problems of their own. Plug-in hybrids allow 10 times as many people to buy a hybrid, and since most drivers travel less than 30 miles per day, the engine will rarely run on gasoline, but it will be there when needed.

@yodaiam1000

17 күн бұрын

ICE and hybrids are also resource intensive and come with geopolitical problems. LFP batteries are reducing the issues that you mentioned. All technologies have their footprint. The key is to minimize the overall footprint and risk which appears to be the adoption of BEV technology. LFP and MNC are also recyclable. Most materials for batteries will come from recycled sources by 2050.

I have walked or cycled or taken the train my whole adult life. Im nearly 30 and live in a village in England. But its becoming too difficult and inconvenient to keep this up. Ive now decided to get a car...

So I understand that Electric Cars ARE STILL the Future, but with challenges in the transition.

@SabineHossenfelder

17 күн бұрын

Probably, yes. I guess it will depend on how the cost of synthetic fuel and batteries develops.

@BuellersBack

17 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder Thanks for responding,, Sabine. I truly enjoy your videos and hope to see you lecturing in Vancouver, BC! My feeling is that sodium ion batteries will take over for EVs, but battery tech is improving and getting cheaper at a breakneck pace, so who knows Lol. Respectfully, Sebastien

@davestagner

17 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelderSynthetic fuels have a massive cost problem relative to pure electric. First, you have efficiency loss in production. Even a high efficiency process is likely only 50% efficient (25% is probably more realistic). So it takes 2-4 units of electric energy for one unit of fuel energy. After that, combustion engines/drivetrains are seriously inefficient - less than 20% of the energy burned turns to motion in practice. The rest is waste heat, driving the compression cycle, etc. EV drivetrains are over 80% efficient in practice. (A gallon of gasoline is about 35kWh of energy; a typical EV has the energy storage of about two gallons, so you really see the efficiency difference.) So we’re looking at 8-16x more electric consumption for a synthetic-fueled combustion car, relative to an EV. And, if your synthetic fuel is anything but gasoline, then it won’t work in most existing cars or in the existing fueling stations or distribution network. You need new cars, new storage, new distribution, all of which are going to be more complex and expensive than the problems of expanding EVs. I think there will be a future for synthetic fuels at small scale, in classic cars and things like aircraft that are hard to electrify. But for normal purpose cars and trucks, they’re terrible compared to just going electric.

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder the cost of synthetic fuel will be too expensive and EVs are getting 1000...1500€ cheaper and better every year.

@ErSelbst_

12 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder Why investing 5 (6? 7?) times the engery to get synthetic fuel and burn it instead of driving with this energy?

What about all these massive leaps in battery price reductions?

@alansnyder8448

18 күн бұрын

They have flattened out. The battery-making capacity can only grow so quickly. People don't take into account how "dirty" the process is getting from raw lithium to battery feedstock on the coal-powered Chinese grid where most of this is done.

@BanditLeader

18 күн бұрын

​@@alansnyder8448sodium batteries

@texanplayer7651

18 күн бұрын

​@@alansnyder8448Shall we talk about how dirty fossil fuel mining is? For every tonne of raw mineral product mined to make an electric car, 100 tonnes of raw mineral product needed to be pumped to power a combustion car

@RS-ls7mm

18 күн бұрын

Not going to happen, Big Oil is/will be Big Lithium (or whatever new tech) and they like profits.

@HaukeLaging

18 күн бұрын

@@alansnyder8448 You need lithium for cars only (and even that may change). The batteries for house owners do not have to be light, cheap is enough. These batteries will help the grid a lot.

That little clip of Buster Keaton's car falling apart is solid gold -

Donation from big oil companies made her changed her mind

Cars just aren't the right solution to the problem. You don't need to carry around tons of metal, glass and plastic to get to the grocery store and back, and you really shouldn't have to live so far from work where you need to be driving back and forth. The answer isn't electric cars or hybrid cars, it's better urban design

@simontemplar404

18 күн бұрын

How much C02 can you tolerate to rebuild everything out of concrete. There are no quick fixes.

@playlist5455

18 күн бұрын

​@simontemplar404 Yes, rebuilding things when they wear out is how it will work for most all changes. Doesn't mean we don't need to quickly get our current regulations lined up to make the future more liveable for future generations.

@mormatus

18 күн бұрын

Amen

@MarshallMathersthe7th

18 күн бұрын

Utopia thinking and impossible, you can't have everyone in mega-cities it's just not possible. What about the heavy industrie (factories) farmers powerplants etc.. Do you also want those in these mega-cities? I wouldn't.. Especially not the nuclear powerplants and loud industry. Cars are the answer, it simply is the best mode of transportation since it's all purpose, you can drive it to work, AND take your family with you, and haul heavy loads etc. And yes, ideally with combustion engine, but a hybrid is fine too. People could use a motorcycle for longer commutes, but it's not cheap to buy a motorcycle and maintain 2 vehicles. Also, cold icy weather exists etc. We are doing fine, i am lucky to live closeby my work, so i can actually cycle there. But i understand the people who work further away either they really have no choice, or they can earn more. We all need to make a living. You have a better change of having all work done by robots.

@yodaiam1000

18 күн бұрын

I think Urban designers realize this but the reality is that you have a street design and infrastructure in place. I think there has been some movement in that the modern technology allows for more at home work now. E-bikes and mobility is also helping along with some redesign to allow for more alternatives but it is still difficult.

The point that she doesn't understand is that many hours in a giving day, the grid is sub utilized - maybe during the day in winter, overnight during summer. What is going to happen is that electricity companies are going to incentivize take some control to the charge hours of the cars with reducing electric bills. Like you set your car to be 80% at 8am every day and the electricity companies will intelligently charge your car. The vast majority of people will do that. Do you need a charge right now? No problem, you are going to pay the normal rate. HVAC (in US) is way more problematic, because everybody turns that on at the same time (hottest time of the day). The power companies figured that out.

@yodaiam1000

18 күн бұрын

She also makes it sound like increasing the growth rate by 20% is a lot. It isn't. Instead of gowthing by 2%, it needs to grow by 2.4%. Growth rates in the past have been much bigger than this. The way she presents the data makes it sound way worse than it actually is.

@SabineHossenfelder

17 күн бұрын

Sure but this will only do so much. Do you really think that the institutions who say that the grid upgrade is necessary don't know that?

@dncbot

17 күн бұрын

Will the vast majority of people have their own parking spot with a charger, so that their car is plugged in when it's convenient for the grid to charge the car?

@martijn8554

17 күн бұрын

​@@SabineHossenfelder Demand following will make a huge difference since it can significantly reduce the impact of unusual events where the sun and the wind both are unavailable. If you predict this and then turn off some factories and stop charging cars for a day, you significantly reduce the battery storage required. This already happens to some extent. The people/businesses who are willing to do this will get cheaper electricity, and the rest will pay a premium for the infrastructure.

@ryuuguu01

17 күн бұрын

@@SabineHossenfelder If the institution is the IEA then they probably don't know that. Look at the IEA's PV increase predictions for the past 20 years. For most of those years they forecasted that PV installations would fall the next year. PV installation rose every year. [edit] I found a source with the IEA PV production forecast from 2022. In 2022 IEA forecast that PV production would reach 180 GW in 2035. It reached 224 GW in 2023. It 2 years to reach IEA's 15 year forecast. To see the source google "iea-forecasts-wrong-again"

"Gasoline smells good"? What gasoline are you smelling?

@xponen

17 күн бұрын

Avoid inhaling gas as it can lead to addiction and pose serious health risks.

@cubertmiso4140

17 күн бұрын

in my small test group about a half likes the gasoline smell and the other one likes spray-paint smell. these two groups don't overlap.

This take is so sensible I first thought it might be satire.

I feel the true hard social/economic problems to solve, are the ones that doesn't allow local market gradient descent to solve the problem. In this case, the density of charging station need to reach a threshold before a phase transition where people start to overwhelmingly prefer EV. Before this transition, increasing the number of charging station is an uphill battle not solvable by gradient descent. I don't feel the grid problem is hard to solve. When more people buy EV and the demand of electricity increases, the grid should be able to improve to adapt this local change. The local market forces should allow a gradient descent that adapt to increase of demand. In contrast, when the density of charging station is low (roughly speaking), no more people would want to buy EV...so there is no further incentive to increase charging station. This is a situation where one needs to put large upfront investment to increase the density of charging station (beyond current demand) over a critical threshold before the bulk of population start to transition to EV. This large up front investment is fighting an uphill battle against local market forces. This is the hard part, I think. I'm no expert whatsoever on EV...so I can easily be wrong by the way.

@float32

18 күн бұрын

Where I am, charging at a charging station is more expensive than gas. They have scheduled price increases, over the next few years, to help compensate for all the new demand. What you’re saying (the gradient decent) can only work without corrupt local governments supporting monopolies.

USA spends $106B per year on oil extraction. This is totally feasible. But somehow, spending this much spread over 10 years, on upgrading the grid, is impossible.

@andrewv.uroskie7856

18 күн бұрын

Back of the napkin calculations reveal that, relative to USA GDP, the US spent what would currently anount to **over $70 Trillion** fighting WWII. So that’s approximately what we can afford if we really, really cared about an existential issue. Maths are from Nobel Economist Paul Krugman in NYT discussing lend-lease program to UK before we entered WWII. “at about $60 billion [ukrainian aid package] is less than one-fourth of 1 percent of G.D.P. - around one-fortieth the size of the initial Lend-Lease appropriation. Anyone claiming that spending on this scale will break the budget, or that it will seriously interfere with other priorities, is innumerate, disingenuous or both.” 13 billion was 10% of gdp in WWII. We spent a total of 340 billion in the war. That’s over 250% of gdp. With today’s gdp of 27 trillion, that would be the equivalent of $70 trillion.

@EvilNui

18 күн бұрын

i mean its obvious, when you don't think about it

@davefellhoelter1343

18 күн бұрын

FYI 85% of "the Gride" RUNS on OIL, Coal, and Natural Gas. So? Ya! Invest in Oil! even the E autos run on 100% of the 85% oil, coal, natural gas "gride"" so again? Ya! Invest in OIL!

@manoo422

18 күн бұрын

...and completely unnecessary...

@4203105

18 күн бұрын

​@@davefellhoelter1343 not sure what your point is.

The main issue with the National Grid is it cost 9p per kilowatt to transport electric round. As without taxes, you can produce electricity for 3p a kilowatt at the solar farm. When we buy electricity in the UK, we probably pay 30p a kilowatt at our home There has to be a way we can buy electricity more locally. Maybe the new 1000 mile car that charges In 10 minutes. It’s still possible to achieve the goal as stated by the government. It will just require a shift in the thought processes.

At some point, I want to learn to weld. So I can build my own frame. I want to build a Flintstone mobile. Yabadabadoo.

Hybrids are the worse. Double complexity, more parts to fail. Also, neither engine/battery work at optimal conditions, so more prone to failure as is.

@olafarlt2

16 күн бұрын

That's when she lost my faith in her objective scientific research. Hybrids are the worst possible decision. If she is recommending them, it shows that she isn't doing neutral analysis anymore. Either she's trying to appeal to the majority of electric car sceptics or her research team has made a grave mistake and she doesn't have the time anymore to realize and fix it. In any case this video will be an ugly blemish in her track record.

@holysmoke3201

16 күн бұрын

@@olafarlt2 talk to taxi drivers about maintenance with hybrids - I don't know about other auto makers but Toyota hybrids are extremely low maintenance cost compared to ICE cars and last forever...some taxi drivers have 500K miles and still going strong! However, NONE of them liked pure EV's

@olafarlt2

16 күн бұрын

@@holysmoke3201 How is having two engines to be maintained instead of one being cheaper? Plus EVs need much less maintenance since there are no spark plugs and no engine oil that need to be changed on a regular basis. I have talked to taxi drivers for example in Kopenhagen, where a lot of them are already driving in pure EVs. The driver said he needs to charge his car once a day and can do that either over night or during quiet times. And from a CO2 perspective, Hybrids aren't solving any problems. You're still burning finite and climate-damaging fossil fuels to get them to move.

@alanpearly

16 күн бұрын

There is a difference between PHEV and traditional hybirds. Traditional hybrids demonstratably reduce fuel consumption of ICE. My Prius V (bigger, heavier) car uses less petrol than my Corolla.

@holysmoke3201

15 күн бұрын

@@olafarlt2 Proof is in the pudding!! SEVERAL taxi drivers I've talked to LOVE their Toyota hybrids and all of them say its wayyyy lower maintenance than an ICE car - you can google it yourself!!

The extra cost of the electric grid will come from the people charging their BEV cars. For example, I charge my car at night (which puts absolutely zero extra load on the grid) and I pay an extra $60 per month to my power bill. Multiply this by a few million BEV cars and there will be plenty of money to upgrade the grid.

@joesterling4299

18 күн бұрын

"absolutely zero extra load on the grid" Best laugh I've had all day.

@EtaCarinaeSC

18 күн бұрын

until 50 mln cars do exactly the same and then we can talk about loads.

@texanplayer7651

18 күн бұрын

If everyone recharged their car at night, (which they don't) then it will be actually quite beneficial for the grid, since demand is overall low at night, the industries are shut down and everyone sleeps.

@insertphrasehere15

18 күн бұрын

@@joesterling4299 What he means is that he doesn't add any more PEAK load to the grid. EVs don't need to charge at peak time. Some people might do it anyway, but power companies and consumers both will have a massive incentive to install smart meters at EV owner's houses, so that they can offer discounts at off-peak times.

@RS-ls7mm

18 күн бұрын

And EVs still don't pay for the roads EVs are using. The tax is coming so EVs will look even less appealing.

I’m in a 2015 Nissan Leaf- 70mi range, and I’ll NEVER go back. BUT- I have a 25mi commute to work, can slow charge at work, and have a level 2 charger in my garage. Once you have easy access to a charger near home you will suddenly lose all interest in maintaining a vehicle with two separate power trains.

@graerindley6312

15 күн бұрын

But most people want the same vehicle to also be used for longer trips especially on the weekends and holidays😊

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

but you cannot tow a hanger with 17 horses for 1500km without any stop when you drive to you vacation spot. i am not an expert but that seems to be the minimum requirement these days. i don't know what to do with 17 horses at my vacation spot and how i can drive 1500km without wetting my pants, but as i said, i am not an expert.

@lamaistul

14 күн бұрын

We have 100 cars in the parking lot at work and only 2 electrical chargers. Never going to happen.

@GrahamLea

9 күн бұрын

@@lamaistulYou can charge it at home on a normal power point. Just a couple of hours of charging required after a typical daily commute.

@GrahamLea

9 күн бұрын

@@graerindley6312 Most EVs will go much further than a Leaf. It’s a pretty old model. 500km on a charge is pretty normal these days. Most people wouldn’t drive that far regularly, and even if they did, probably need a driving break every few 100km.

Just because those projects are in advanced stages, doesn't mean that they are done. So it's completely wrong to say that there are finished renewable power plants that we can't use.

Dear Sabine, the solution is to steer charging to the night, there is over capacity (wind energy at night is being sold at negative price), if the bulk of people charge at night no problem. Especially if you convert light pole’s to include a charger … in villages that would make the issue of people that have no own property none existent … so a little steering adjustment and the EV transitions has zero issues, pretty disappointed you could no come up with it yourself …

@blahblah49000

18 күн бұрын

The electric grid is quite fragile. It would be relatively trivial for malicious agents to disable parts or all of it. If a large-scale war happens with China, they will likely attempt that, or at least threaten to, as they already have China-sourced equipment in our grid and thousands of agents in our borders. How much worse it would be then if also our entire transportation infrastructure would be unusable if the grid went down. At least gas and diesel fuel can sit in tanks and be manually pumped, allowing vehicles to travel hundreds and thousands of miles without the grid working. Imagine not being able to deliver food to cities because the delivery vehicles can't be charged. It would be utterly foolish of us to make ourselves even more vulnerable to such attacks.

@junkerzn7312

18 күн бұрын

@@blahblah49000 Its not as fragile as all that. Besides, what kind of alternative do think gasoline represents? Not any, really. Pretty much everything we do in life depends on electricity. You won't be driving to the supermarket or your place of work if the electricity is out at those destinations now will you! Gasoline distribution infrastructure also depends heavily on electricity. It isn't just a matter of a gas station having a backup generator to make the pumps work. Depending on electricity is not actually a problem. People have the same alternatives dealing with disasters with electricity as they did with other fuel sources. More, even, when you can generate it yourself on top of everything else.

@zen1647

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, my opinion of Sabine is dropping. With V2G it won't be long until you will be *paid* to connect your EV to a bidirectional charger to provide grid stability.

@junkerzn7312

17 күн бұрын

@@zen1647 V2G isn't going to really be a thing for ... well, quite a while. For EVs with NMC batteries, it might never make sense to do. It only really makes sense to do it with EVs that have LFP batteries. That is of course because the LFP chemistry has 4x the cycle life of NMC. That's one problem. A second problem is just straight-out the fact that it is unlikely that more than a small percentage of EV owners will make the investment required to actually do V2G. Only a modest percentage of EV owners with driveways now have 50A circuits connected up to their EVSEs. An even smaller percentage are going to replace their EVSEs with two-way EVSEs, and an even smaller percentage will have vehicles with LFP batteries that have V2G enabled. V2G is fun to think about and some people wil be able to do it, but its impact on the grid is going to take probably 10-15 years to actually develop into something useful.

@lamaistul

14 күн бұрын

Instead of steering to this communist nightmare, maybe we should control population growth instead.

Most EV's are charged overnight, so how is the grid going to not cope with that? Since EV's are a good idea, I suggest we keep buying them, and if the Grid gets close to being overwhelmed, then we talk about Hybrids. EV's are also good for trade balances and economic security, since there is no need to import oil from abroad for them.

@alan4sure

18 күн бұрын

Canada has lots of oil....

@pdblouin

18 күн бұрын

Most people would plug in when they get home from work. You’d have to have big financial incentives for people to accept the loss of freedom to choose when to charge.

@playlist5455

18 күн бұрын

​@@pdblouinThe cars are smart and can set times to charge. Also you could do this on the charger side, smart home tech exists. My utility has a great overnight rate for changing the EV

@jonjoe42

17 күн бұрын

@@playlist5455Exactly what I was going to reply with 👍. It seems many do not know that the vehicles can charge themselves based on when electricity costs are lowest in the day(which is same as when most extra electrical capacity is available)

@pdblouin

17 күн бұрын

@@jonjoe42 If I'm a customer with flat rate electricity, why should I choose to charge at night? What if something happens and I need to drive NOW, and the car hasn't charged yet? Again, just saying you will need big financial incentives to get people to do this willingly.

My math may be a little off but according to Google there is 26 million tons of lithium on the earth. A Tesla contains about 8 kg of lithium. There are 1.47 billion cars on the face of the earth today. Add it all up there is only enough lithium for about 3 billion cars, meaning after replacing every car with a lithium powered car, when that car dies or the battery dies, we can replace it one more time then we are out of lithium.

This debate is senseless. The future should be whatever people need/want to own. LET THE MARKET DECIDE. Meaning, politicians should not impose any EV transition requirements, and everyone else should stop seeing this topic as binary. The roads can be a mix of ICE and EV depending on what people need. And if there is a transition to one over time, let it be a natural one based on market demand. Some people have very long daily commutes and an EV makes much more sense, and is much cheaper and more efficient to operate, than an expensive complex Hybrid. Some people have short commutes and love the sound of an engine. Let the market decide. Central planning doesn’t work. If there isn’t enough electricity, people won’t buy EV’s. If gas is $10 a gallon, people won’t buy ICE. LET. THE. MARKET. DECIDE.

@NWGJulian

8 күн бұрын

you are absolutely right. let the market decide. but i am 100% sure that sooner or later, the market will go for EV‘s. batterys get better and cheaper, electricity grid will improve, more and more people will produce their own electricity. petrol will become more and more expensive, ICE will get more and more vulnerable (they already are tho), they are incredible complex and hard to maintain (just look at how much sensors and pumps are built within an ICE!) in contrast, EV‘s are super simple. in the end, it wont make much sense to drive anything else than an EV (expect for people that drive for fun with a porsche)

I built an illegal electric "light motorcycle" with a 1500W motor and a 2kWh battery. Absolutely nothing beats its efficiency, including pedaling, because the battery was always charged directly by solar panels.

Connecting renewables to the grid is indeed a headache, but electric cars are not the problem for three reasons (1) some people with electric cars will have rooftop solar panels (2) cars will mostly be charged overnight when grid demand is low (3) domestic electricity use has been decreasing thanks to new efficiencies such as LED lighting. This means there is spare capacity. Hybrid cars are a very poor option for several reasons and will hopefully not be popular, but it depends how fast charging infrastructure is built out.

@Starry_Night_Sky7455

5 күн бұрын

(4) How about we altogether cut back on wasteful unnecessary commuting. Plenty of people can work remotely. Stay home.

Hi Sabine, we salute your "courage" to take on a so hot subject. I think the future of cars industry is not gasoline nor petrol based, neither full electric. I foresee a future where the cars will drive fully electric, but produce the electricity on board, using an electric generator powered by... nothing else that CNG, or methane. Think about it, and make a video 😝. Then, when the first manufacturer will do one, ask for royalties, and we can share 😝. And no, this post is not a joke, beside the last sentence of the former paragraph. I work in a related industry for the last ~35 years and I drive a CNG powered car for the last 13 or 14. Everybody knows the advantages of an electric car, like acceleration, regenerative braking, etc., and not the last, the almost double or triple efficiency compared with ICE, but also its disadvantages, of which the range is the most bothering. On the other hand, one cannot make a pure CNG car, because methane burns better at very high temperatures, therefore such car will need to heat the engine before being able to start, which is quite inconvenient, nobody would like to wait 20 minutes before being able to go to work or shopping. Nowadays cars solve this issue by adding gasoline or alcohol mixtures (gasohol) into the equation. Your car starts on gasoline, and runs on gasoline for 10 minutes or so, or for the first 2-3 km, then, when the engine is hot enough, it automatically switches to CNG. Driving on CNG give you only half of the mileage you get with gasoline, because this sh!t is the same like electricity: you can not compress it enough to take it with you... a 75 liters tank of CNG weights a lot (yep, steel cylinder, it has to hold the pressure!) and can only carry 12kg of CNG, on which you only drive ~200 km. But you do that at a quarter or a third of the price of driving on gasoline. Moreover, methane is a lot more abundant than the petrol-related fuels, which need millions of years to "ferment" in the bowels of the earth - every pond in which you put some sh!t/organic material/mud, will fart and gurgle methane in few weeks/months. The permafrost is full of it, etc. Countries have so much that they don't know how to store it, and inject it back in the soil, in deep cavities. And to add the cherry on the cake, driving on CNG is _green_ !! I know some of you will skin me off for that sentence, but yes, it is somehow true, because the CO2 that results has a much less greenhouse effect than the methane. So, my car has a 42 liters gasoline tank (beside of the 75 liters CNG tank) and if I only drive on gasoline, I get over 500 km range (plus the 200 km range of driving on CNG, it makes about 700-750 km range). My colleague has the same type of car, same size, etc, but hers is a newer hybrid. That car has a 38 liters gasoline tank, and an electric motor. There is no charger (it is not a plug-in hybrid). So, she only drives on 38 liters of gasoline, and the car can reach a range of about 800 km, as the hybrid driving is more efficient. Actually, she gets about double the mileage compared to my car if we both drive on gasoline only. The gasoline engine is used both to power the train, and charge the batteries, but when charging the batteries, it is very efficient, because it runs at a specific RPM, for which it was designed and tuned. Your gasoline engine wastes a lot of fuel when you accelerate or change the gears, like driving in the city, etc., as it goes out of the RPM ranges it was designed for. If it runs too slow it wastes on torque, and if it runs too fast it has no time to completely burn the fuel, spitting some of it out. If you could run it at a constant 2800 or 3000 RPM (or whatever, engines are different) then it would consume much less. Now, I am thinking like a stupid... you just replace the gasoline engine in a hybrid with a CNG engine. It can be made smaller, tuned for a specific RPM, and used to charge the batteries only. It will produce a very less heat, which can be reused (there are efficient toys that transform heat into electricity, we make some of them here), and to reuse it, a very good thermal insulation is needed, which makes the engine able to run even when the car is not used (if parked outside!), to recharge the batteries (of course, if you park it inside, you can't let it run, as it makes fumes). Making engine smaller and moving the electric motors in the wheels (yes, I am also an enthusiastic EUC rider for the last ~3 years, these things are VERY power-efficient), makes space for a larger methane tank. Say you make it 150 liters, i.e. doubling its capacity (it would mean 400km for my current car, i.e. not a hybrid), and you double again due to the fact that you drive electric, like my colleague's hybrid. Then, you get an electric-CNG hybrid, which goes 800 km, it has all the advantages of an electric car, but you don't need to wait 50 minutes at a charging station, it starts smooth (of course electric) and the electricity is used for the few km or minutes to heat the pistons/internals of the CNG engine, after which the CNG engine starts similarly to a gasoline-CNG car like mine. It is also silent inside, so you can listen to your music, but loud enough outside so you can comply with regulations and don't need to have some speakers saying continuously "pizza-pizza-pizza" like the electric scooters from the Domino delivery guys. Additionally, you drive on a fuel which is abundant, it can be easily manufactured when it became naturally scarce (if ever), there is already an infrastructure for it, and by burning it and transforming it into CO2, you make the planet cleaner (well... don't skin me off!😛). Where is the disadvantage? I see none. Mark my words: The future of the cars is an electric-CNG hybrid. Still waiting for the first manufacturer to make one, and give me royalties for the idea, say, a beer would be quite ok...

In terms of hybrid I think there's nothing better than a car with Toyota hybrid synergy drive. The more I learned about it the more enthusiastic I got. It's efficient and extremely reliable. And one can combine it with a plugin solution. Forget all the other implementations of hybrid.

The Toyota Prius is still the king of hybrids. Never had any issues with it and the fuel economy is excellent.

@SotirakisPeklivanas

18 күн бұрын

I have an MG ZS EV. when I first started charging it cost me more than a combustion engine, and kept running out of charge. Three months on, I can work for 12 hours and still have 50% battery. The cost of charging is now about 352 miles for less than £10. You just have to understand the capabilities of the car.

@Mentaculus42

18 күн бұрын

And the “electric continuous variable transmission” is a thing of mechanical simplicity and elegance where 1 + 1 is something like 1.2 ! But EV advocates don’t understand that, but that is to be expected.

@pdblouin

18 күн бұрын

@@Mentaculus42 Instead of boasting about your superior intelligence, can you explain the pros and cons of this component? This comment just makes you sound like a manual transmission elitist.

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

and now having their peak, sales slowly start to decline because EVs are getting cheaper and better.

In the UK, the National Grid keep saying that the grid can cope and I don't see any reason to disbelieve them. The UK has new international interconnector too. This spreads the load. In the UK about 25% of all electricity generated is used to refine and move fossil fuels so there's a lot of power for nothing as we reduce fossil fuel use. Also 40% of all large shipping is moving fossil fuels. Much of the planning is to cover the highest peak of power needs, but that can be smoothed out as is already happening. The best way to charge a car is at home, at night. That is when electricity is currently over supplied - the wind still blows in the North Sea. This no only leads to very cheap charging but spreads energy use to lower the peaks. Have a word with Greg Jackson at Octopus Energy, he knows the real picture, not the FUD spread by BigOil.

@scotttovey

18 күн бұрын

"Have a word with Greg Jackson at Octopus Energy, he knows the real picture, not the FUD spread by BigOil." That's good for the UK. It won't work in the US. The idiots in charge of the grid, refuse to invest in necessary upgrades. Rather than spending a portion of the monthly bill customers pay, they are waiting to get funded by taxpayer dollars so they can keep their higher profits and keep pretending that they are doing a good job. It also doesn't help that some State governments have mandated a percentage of solar and wind energy and have not mandated grid upgrades.

@dpsdps01

18 күн бұрын

Thank you for that insightful post! I had no idea that so much power was used to refine fossil fuel, that is ludicrous.

@AelwynMr

18 күн бұрын

In Italy too the grid operator has always maintained that they see no particular trouble ahead about upgrading the grid for mass adoption of EVs. As far as I understand, it will be a minuscule tweak compared to what was done in the years of rapid post-war industrialization.

@manoo422

18 күн бұрын

You think everyone will be able to charge a car overnight "night" on a calm day...Not a chance in hell.

@SotirakisPeklivanas

18 күн бұрын

In the UK,the National Grid is digging tunnels to accommodate the cables, removing the pillons running around the country. In the cities, the car is being discouraged by restricting it to main roads. You would have noticed that your satnav never takes you through a residential road if a main road is available. Tower blocks no longer have parking bays, and street parking is at a premium. The charging points on lampposts only have 3.5kWh with a 2 hour time limit. To own an electric car you need a driveway with a charging point. If not, then the cost per mile is almost double that of fossil fuel, as well as the pleasure of sitting in your car for at least one hour while it charges. There is no profit in charging points compared to petrol stations. For example, one car can take 5 minutes to fill up and go, £70. 12 cars *£70=£840per hour. An EV takes one hour for a reasonable charge, £50. What company in its right mind will want to earn £50 per hour. If companies cannot turn a profit then the infrastructure can never bear fruitition. Building the grid is one thing. Finding companies to bear the extremely low profit margin is another.

My scepticism about electric cars is based on the fact that in order to charge them, we need power. To get power we need, preferably, renewable energy sources. Those are solar, wind and wave. The first two absolutely need batteries in order to store the power which is generated whenever it can be, so it can be used when needed. The most energy dense batteries are preferable, which are the same ones being used in cars which are draining the grid. Electric cars are creating a problem, while, by their very nature, making the problem difficult to solve.

@4203105

18 күн бұрын

You don't need energy dense batteries for grid storage. It doesn't matter if you put 1000 or 2000 into a warehouse. For grid storage you want the cheapest option, not the most energy dense one. Most energy dense will remain NMC and NCA. Cheapest will be sodium ion. They don't even have lithium in common.

I completely agree that there's a lack of joined up thinking, thats sadly common in politics. An element you've slightly missed is that more charging stations have their own energy storage and even generation to simplify grid connections; distributed grid storage and micro grids are already happening due to it just being cheaper to cut out a lot of grid infrastructure. There is a lot of work left to do, but the infrastructure is nowhere near as bad as people intimate. For all Tesla's faults, they have built a very good charging infrastructure that they're opening up to everyone and they started building it over a decade ago. For most people in the developed world, an EV is perfectly practicable, just not always convenient.

Hybrids have the issue that the battery is charged full and depleted much more often than a full EV that mostly is used between 10%90% which causes a lot more wear on the hybrid batteries compared to the EV batteries that doesn't loose capacity nearly as fast as the hybrid ones.

@vibratingstring

18 күн бұрын

Hybrids are engineerd to be stupid with their batteries.

@alansnyder8448

18 күн бұрын

My wife's Chevy Volt has 110,000 miles on it and the battery is still doing great and the ICE engine has barely more than 30,000 miles on it. This car is going to last for a while.

@Unmannedair

18 күн бұрын

Exactly. And it doesn't help that a lot of the older hybrids have old battery technology that doesn't age well

@artiefischel2579

18 күн бұрын

?? No, that's backwards. The problem with batteries is that unless you charge and discharge them completely they will develop hysteresis and they'll end up not being able to take a full charge. This is commonly seen on laptop batteries, phone batteries, etc. where when they are new they last a long time but if you don't stick to a rigid schedule of waiting until the device is almost dead to charge it, and then charging it completely, then the time between charges gets shorter and shorter.

@SaanMigwell

18 күн бұрын

@@artiefischel2579 That depends on the battery chemistry. Fully discharging and charging lithium Ion reduces it's life expectancy. Nickel Metal batteries behave as you described, as do NiCad's, though not for the reason you think, (see battery memory effect) and they can be "reset" through full charge/discharge cycles. Lithium Ion batteries do not work this way. When you fully discharge Lithium batteries the instance of corrosion on the cells accelerates when below 20% capacity, and when charging above 80%.

Personally I have no faith in Hybrid vihecles. Studies have shown that people who buy hybrid vihecles, use them as petrol vihecles (or diesel), and not as hybrid solutions in reality. It's far too easy to fall back into old habits with them, and they thus pollute just as much as a vihecle that wasn't hybrid at all. In theory they'd work, but in practice they tend not to.

@Bob-1802

17 күн бұрын

We can wonder why these people bought pricey Hybrid's in the first place. Usually they should drive in electric mode when possible to reduce fuel cost.

@op4000exe

16 күн бұрын

@@Bob-1802 But realistically speaking, they don't when actually studied. They just use them as petrol cars.

@Robinsonxy

15 күн бұрын

@@Bob-1802 Companies buy them because of subsidies, and give fuel card to the employees, who won't charge therefore.

@TheDadofMark

15 күн бұрын

The idea of a hybrid is to get really really good gas mileage while not suffering the substantial downside of an EV. They do this just fine.

Windmills are hella dangerous for those that maintain them.

Great video. She listed the current barriers so we can work on fixing them.

What the “experts” who forecast power grid requirements constantly get wrong is the opportunity that two way charging and local solar can actually take advantage of electric cars to avoid grid upgrades. If you have enough electric cars plugged in (which is most cars most of the time) and the grid managers can talk to them (all electric cars do have smart controllers that are wirelessly connected) you can manage an existing grid in a far far far more competent way. Do the numbers and you can see that far from overtaxing the grid a relatively small expense in AI control over power management of a countries electric car fleet could make heavy infrastructure grid upgrades almost unnecessary.

@4203105

18 күн бұрын

I don't know what "experts" Sabine is even referring to. The Bundesnetzagentur in Germany sees no problem for grid-expansion to keep up with demand.

You don't need to make hybrid cars. You already distribute hydrocarbon fuel everywhere, just build the electric charging stations near existing gas stations and use fossil fuels to run electric generators to power the charging stations. Someday, green power can be phased in, and the power grid can be upgraded as well. Then the fossil fuel generator system does backup and provides peaker capacity. Hybrid cars are wrong, make hybrid charging stations instead.

@SergePavlovsky

12 күн бұрын

it's cheaper to build transmission line than to build generators. electricity is already everywhere, people don't live without it

@mrvwbug4423

8 күн бұрын

Current tech EVs are horribly inconvenient. Short range combined with long charging times. Those rosy numbers you hear about charging times are not realistic. Every charge time test I've seen in real world conditions is usually 2 to 3 times longer than the rosy numbers the manufacturers provide because the chargers don't constantly provide maximum charge rate in the real world. On a long road trip, driving 150-200mi then stopping for 2-3 hours to charge is ridiculous. And drop that distance to 100-150mi if you're driving in mountainous terrain and 100 or less if you're towing with your EV.

@SergePavlovsky

8 күн бұрын

@@mrvwbug4423 you are horribly brainwashed. bev leaves garage with 100% charge every morning, you don't have to waste time visiting gas stations, you spend 0 time on charging, unlike icevs. you can get 3 hours charging for 200 miles only as result of heavy drug abuse and vivid imagination. modern cars charge with 200+ kwt, which translates into 10-15 minutes after 200 miles. normal people anyway need to make breaks instead of peeing into pants. and of course mountain terrain has negligible effect on bev range(unlike icevs, bevs have regenerative braking) and towing just needs aerodynamic trailer.

@Frostback-mw4xi

2 күн бұрын

@@mrvwbug4423 How 2023. LFP is replacing NMC in batteries, with Sodium and Sodium/Lithium on the near horizon. Battery prices have dropped 50% within the last couple of years and manufacturers are promising another 50% by the end of 2024. CATL's 2000 Km range batteries are actually being installed in commercial vehicles. 350 kw charging networks are being rolled out to bring charging times under 10 minutes. I'm still not ready to make the leap because the pace of change is still crazy fast and I have a perfectly capable 20 year old Honda We can evaluate the level of Oil Company desperation by the number of "EV Panic" KZread videos flooding the internet

So, the future was electric but we dont have a good grid system, so lets go hybrid and we can forget to improve oir grid. .. ...video sponsor Shell.

We need alcohol based fuels. They use a renewable fuel source, no harmful emissions, can use existing technology and distribution infrastructure. You can run the alcohol based fuels on high power race cars as well as motorbikes and hybrids.

@Simon-dm8zv

8 күн бұрын

Nope. Ethanol requires vast amounts of arable land to produce. There simply is not enough of it. Covering fields with solar panels is many times more efficient to produce power for vehicles.

Gasoline doesn't smell as good as it did when it was leaded. LOL

@ptonpc

18 күн бұрын

I have said the same thing. Modern petrol is more acrid smelling. On the other hand, I don't miss TEL.

Sabine, let's just switch to bicycles.

@clray123

18 күн бұрын

Especially for long distances with heavy cargo.

@werner.x

18 күн бұрын

Didn't you hear the news? Europe's warming happens twice as fast as the rest of the world, they say. No bicycle is offered with an air condition option. And i can tell you from own experience, as soon as air temperature in the shadow reaches 41°C, which already happened several times around here, biking is no fun any more, since the wind is feverish hot already.

@MarshallMathersthe7th

18 күн бұрын

You do that, we prefer to be able to travel BEYOND our cities.

@clray123

18 күн бұрын

@@werner.x tell me where you live, i want to move there

@4203105

18 күн бұрын

​@@werner.x you are allowed to use electric bikes. The wind will cool you sufficiently when you don't have to put much power into the pedals yourself.

Here is my story. I live in Québec. Six years ago, my electricity bill was at $6.20 in average over the year. Then I installed a heat pump. Four years ago i bought an electric car. Since for the last year my total electricity bill is at $4.40.

@michelsabourin7701

17 күн бұрын

$6.20 per day over the yeay.

The thing is EVs don’t actually create that much extra energy demand on an electricity grid. Most houses in Australia would use more energy to heat their water electrically (10kWh/day) than they would to charge an EV after the average daily commute (6kWh/day for 36km). Swapping a resistance water heater for a heat pump water heater to reduce the energy needed by 75% would save about as much energy as the EV would need, meaning no net grid improvement needed (to charge EVs slowly at the same power as hot water, ~3.5kW).

The grid was fine in the US when everyone started to install AC in houses/Building/etc. Those are energy intense appliances and yet the grid grew to take care of that. With EV I just program mine to charge early in the morning so it’s ready when I leave.

@carultch

5 күн бұрын

There's still rolling blackouts on days with heat waves.

Hybrids are awful, you now have 2 power trains to maintain. You might think that 2 powertrains gives you redundancy, but 99% of the world has vehicle and emissions inspections that you will fail if your hybrid battery fails. Not only that, but if you are using the hybrid properly (using the battery), the battery will wear out fast like a cell phone, because it's being fully cycled everyday.

@mx2000

18 күн бұрын

This is objectively untrue. Even first-gen Toyota Priuses easily got 10+ years out of their battery.

@justinjja2

18 күн бұрын

​@@mx2000 Should have clarified, I'm talking about plugin hybrids.

@justinjja2

18 күн бұрын

For comparison average 1 year battery degradation for some popular PHEVS: (all 2019 model year) Prius Prime 2.3%, Pasifica 2.2%, Outlander 4.1% And some real EV's: Bolt 0.0%, Model 3 0.6%, leaf 0.8% Pretty clear those PHEV batteries aren't going to last like the real EV's.

Your quote: “Hydrogen, methane and ammonia are all nasty stuff to deal with - but gasoline.. it smells good” OMG I think you have been sniffing too much of it 😂

My household is hybrid in a way. One EV one ICE vehicle. I think in the U.S EVs are pretty practical in major cities. Charging is easy at home and superchargers are abundant.

Most rich people stay rich by spending like the poor and investing without stopping then most poor people stay poor by spending like the rich yet not investing like the rich but impressing them

@CarlosGarcia56590

18 күн бұрын

People prefer to spend money on liabilities, Rather than investing in assets and be very profitable

@KaylaRussell77

18 күн бұрын

You are so correct! Save, invest and spend for necessities and a few small luxuries relatives to one's total assets ratio.

@DaniCharney

18 күн бұрын

Sounds good😊How do you do that? I'm interested, how do I go about getting started?

@KathyJvanest

18 күн бұрын

Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.

@MarieRandy438

18 күн бұрын

Sure! She engages on what's Apk using the digit

I hate when people make irrelevant comparisons off projections. And utilizing figures that would include every person charging electric car at the same time. It's just like saying everybody's gonna gas up their car at the same time. Come on, get your facts straight. Yes, at current levels, if everybody that had an electric car tried to charge their vehicles at the exact same time. Yeah, we'll mess up the grid, but the build out in the grid, the implementation of wind, solar and hydro that's being created all over the world at a rate that's unprecedented. How can we not meet those targets even by twenty thirty

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

because manufacturing and new devices besides EVs need that energy as well, so you're not just gonna make new power plants for EVs

@duaneherndon6736

18 күн бұрын

@xerr0n the ev s will be themselves backup and yes more batteries and solar People don't realize that we're at the technological level that we could end everything bad that's happening, but we don't and people put out propaganda about ev s and electric is bad or worse but the real thing Is that you put a 1 billion dollars into solar panels and batteries. That's enough to cover a state, a country, the Providence. And smaller places would need even less On top of what we already have. And if everybody does that all over the world, we won't need to use fossil fuels ever again

I have a homemade diesel-electric pickup, I use the engine maybe about 5 times a year, most of the time I charge from my own electricity supply (hydro/solar/wind). The battery is easily removable (takes about an hour without any specialized tools) and I use LiFePo4 batteries, it is now 4 years old and I see no degradation even after a daily cycle. I don't know why there aren't any diesel-electric plugin hybrid on the market, they are the most efficient. Also why are manufacturers making cars harder and harder to repair, it's almost like they are forcing us to pay for their exorbitant service prices...

One biggest issue with EV is when you are out of power, you not only lost power at home, you also not able to move. This may not seem to be a big issue in big cities with low car ownership. But for these cities, tradition to EV may not benefit as much due to low car ownership to begin with. And for people in the US and areas cars are necessity not luxury, EV post a big danger during power outage emergences. Relying on power grid means relying on a bigger central government.

There was a time when people laughed at Amazon and Apple and said these companies would go bankrupt. The entire auto industry is against Tesla because electric cars have very little maintenance.

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

because they get written off for a dent....

@user-ky3dg3nc4x

18 күн бұрын

@@xerr0n You were given the wrong advice then.

@MarshallMathersthe7th

18 күн бұрын

Not compareable, Apple and Amazon are not pushed and subsidized on a daily basis just to get someone to buy their products (and still most people won't buy it lol) those companies got where they are by offering either good products or services (and marketing) supplying something people actually want. Apple doesn't need help from the government to sell you some phone.

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

@@user-ky3dg3nc4x what are you even on about? EVs are usually aluminium unibodies or nearly there. very expensive to repair as there aren't enough competent body-workers for that.

@file83

18 күн бұрын

That’s why the gas powered electric is a little better: it has no transmission, because the drive train is just electric motors, plus regenerative brakes uses less brake pads/rotors. And if you live in a hilly area and/or have a lot of stop and go, you get to recover some of that energy from burning fuel instead of just losing it to heat. PLUS: gas powered electric can provide a more efficient fuel source to heat the vehicle in cold climates, and power the AC in hot climates. The worst place to buy a gas powered electric would be a mild climate which is flat with little stop and go traffic.

The Aptera Solar ev is a good solution for this problem. It is super efficient and gets 10 miles per kWh, almost 3 times what other EVs get! The 700w on board Solar charges up to 40 miles per day which is more than the average commute for both the EU and USA. You can charge around 150 miles overnight on a 110v outlet. The car is now in preproduction and should be available early next year.

Finally, some reasonable analysis, which was so obvious to anyone of knowledge.

My biggest concern about EVs is that maybe it is relatively easy to have a few or tens millions cars worldwide, but what if all the ~ one billion private vehicles we have in the world were electric ? It' s very likely that the energy and material needs are going to explode, particularly in a future 10 billion people world...

in norway 1/4 of all cars are elektric: they have no problem with the grid.!!!!!!

@czarekcz1097

17 күн бұрын

Look at the map... hydro power everywhere over there.

@reweiv

17 күн бұрын

@@czarekcz1097 ok? then let's just install more hydro lol (even tho I think solar/wind is better)

@zaph1rax

15 күн бұрын

@@reweiv Hydro works if you have the mountains and water, otherwise, solar, wind and even nuclear power is better. Oil and gas will run out, and we will have to come up with sustainable replacements, and electric cars are the best option. Hydrogen power don't make any sense.

@lamaistul

14 күн бұрын

All cars heavily subsidized by oil money. Else no one could afford them.

@czarekcz1097

14 күн бұрын

@@lamaistul And who pays for fuel? I thought consumer! Are you suggesting we are subsidizing ourselves? Then I have no issue with it!

We keep hearing over and over that the grid isn't going to be able to handle the EV push. But, I never see any actual data on what BEV's have already done to the grid. Certainly, we have enough EV's on the road now that we should see not the theoretical affect, but the actual one. Last year 8% of new car sales in the US were BEV's. So . . . what has happened to the grid? Can someone tell me? I google it and all I get are news stories predicting disaster but site nothing but their assumptions, no actual data.

@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ

18 күн бұрын

It sounds like the year 2K bug that everyone last century was worried about for a least a decade before it happened. And well you know what happened when we changed centuries, well nothing. Everything worked, the world didn't end and as far as I am aware nobody died bc of it. Living through the paranoia that swept the developed world back than, well.... bit like the failure of the power grid from too many EVs.

@xerr0n

18 күн бұрын

the problem is mainly with the substations, they are not meant for continuous peak usage, they'll literally burn up. also in cities there are no apartment car charging places and again we arrive at the substations here as well. There's the problem of shifting all that energy usage to the grid that needs to be now generated, so well need more power stations, and especially by night that means fossil. Nuclear would be nice but the environmentalists hate that for some reason. And here's a crux of the issue with electric cars, it wont matter where you are generating that energy if its still as bad as before. Solar and wind are hard to connect to the grid and make it, like themselves, more unreliable. (lookup practical engineering for this topic, should be a rather new video on it) and again there needs to be a counter balance for that unreliability. wind and solar needs to be backed up by a power plant that can react fast to the problems such tech has. Grid batteries aren't really an option as that tech isn't here either, its just expensive and polluting.

@MCMXCDX

18 күн бұрын

"We keep hearing over and over that the grid isn't going to be able to handle the EV push" thats just because she had to reup the video Im kidding, btw

@apostolakisl

18 күн бұрын

@@xerr0n Yes, again with the theoretical. Looking for actual data. With 8% of new car sales BEV, we should see some real data. Regardless of how the electricity is currently generated, BEV's offer a pathway to clean vehicles. Gasoline vehicles offer no pathway unless you think that synthetic gasoline or ethanol has a chance, which I do not. I am all for nuclear. Just beyond crazy how the fear mongering works. Sabine has an excellent video on that. The most poignant fact in the video is how because of one or two outliers, the anti-nuclear people love to talk about the average cost of a nuc plant instead of the much more predictive median cost (and construction time). I own a BEV and I can tell you it is a joy to drive.

@philipperapaccioli2868

18 күн бұрын

@@apostolakisl ev owners overwhelmingly charge at night to take advantage of off peak rates. So there is very little impact on peak consumption. These projections are based on unrealistic assumptions of evs charging through out the day. With massive electric solar and wind power, evs could fully charge during periods of high production, and even return power to the grid during peak consumption hours. All these predictions do not factor in possible usage adaptations. The invisible hand of market pricing.

I agree about hybrids being the future, plus I grew up in a town that had a strong railroad culture. I was fascinated with that hybrid idea when I heard trains use it.

Without doubt you are right. Bookmarked. Diesel engines are the most efficient IC engines, and will be with us for many years to come. Batteries cant touch for energy / unit volume & mass. Diesel (kerosene) is needed for HGVs, shipping, mining, aviation. Petrol (Gasoline) is a by-product of oil refining for Kerosene / diesel. As long as there is diesel, there will be petrol.

@mrvwbug4423

8 күн бұрын

There are medium term solutions for diesel. HGVs can easily run trolley electric type systems where they have a designated lane where they can hook onto the wire for their electricity, like how trolley buses already operate, and use a battery for short distances off the wire. For ocean shipping, large cargo ships could run nuclear, though how much do you trust the crew to properly operate and maintain the reactor cargo ships are notorious for not being maintained properly. Rail is easy, electric trains have been around for well over 100 years and railway electrification is easy and doesn't require any advanced technology. Synthetic fuels is probably the way to go for aviation, you simply can't electrify an airplane in any viable fashion.

Sabine’s oil industry overlords commanded that she post this video again.

@kapuzinergruft

14 күн бұрын

Your Chinese terror regime E-mafia bosses commanded you otherwise.

Meanwhile Norway is at 90% EV sales and even China is ramping up and EV sales are now at 50% market share.

@robertadams6606

17 күн бұрын

It's all a big farce EVs will not change our needs for hydrocarbon Energy. You are a fool to believe any of this will help you in the future. It's no different when you talk about making everyone not keep their older ICE vehicles. It's all about MONEY, and none of that will be a benefit to you.

@Nickbaldeagle02

14 күн бұрын

Norway is a population of 5 million and has massive natural reserves. Easy for Norway.

@lamaistul

14 күн бұрын

Norway uses oil money to subsidize electric cars. Big brain time.

@CareySullivan-cu3fw

12 күн бұрын

Meanwhile China is building 2 coal plants per week. 😃

@anthonytrujillo106

9 күн бұрын

China is building COAL burning power plants to charge their EVs. Fast charging wastes most of the electricity!!!!

The biggest issue in converting to electric cars is for those who live in apartments and condos without the option of affordable overnight charging in their association’s parking lots. BEV’s like the Chevrolet Volt is a good option to extend range for long trips while going all electric locally. However, those who live in multi-family houses need a better option. Likely, the government will need to require electric charging in their building codes. My next car will be electric, but my current car probably has 10 years left based on my use - so it won’t be economically feasible nor ecologically beneficial for me to upgrade now.

@stefanweilhartner4415

15 күн бұрын

change the apartment

If you do have a house or some other way to plug your car in overnight, then electricity is actually way better - you basically never have to go to the gas station or even worry about it. You only need charging if you're going on long road trips.